pvp

[stray sigil]

wtf do u expect

[rigid linden]

gooid

[stray sigil]

we flame him on the daily

for not being mm

[rigid linden]

good

[stray sigil]

but it doesnt matter

[rigid linden]

he is

the king

ill go worgen for him

but i want r1

so nelf > all

[clear pulsar]

I am adding circada on btag as we speak

Circada is the absolute homie

Get fukt shit kid @stray sigil

[stray sigil]

bro

u do that legit

i will never speak to u

[edgy shale]

lool

[inland thorn]

For talents 45/50 for Balance, is it best to take Twin Moons and Fury of Elune? The pinned post is confusing me so figured I'd ask lol

[forest kite]

Anyone know how many stats a 235 lego ring gives?

[edgy shale]

wat content?

[rigid linden]

i THINK fury is or rbgs

[stray sigil]

@rigid linden what im hearing is

[rigid linden]

and twin moons is arena

right?

[stray sigil]

ur a pussy

and u wont go worgen

[vital parcel]

fury is 60 talent

[edgy shale]

for rbg i take moon for really high burst

[stray sigil]

old formy would went worgen

[vital parcel]

u high

[stray sigil]

i hate new formy

[rigid linden]

i want sinful gladiator title

so i can be

sinful

[stray sigil]

bring back old formy

[rigid linden]

and sinister

[clear pulsar]

They on diff tiers

[rigid linden]

besides im on 9-5 wagecuck job now

so i can only q weekends

[stray sigil]

r1 gonna be 3.4 again this ssn ?

[rigid linden]

LOL

[edgy shale]

for rbg= take the one that spreads moonfire, and the full moon one

[stray sigil]

go horde free r1

[rigid linden]

i havea horde feral

[stray sigil]

bring back the zanda dream

[rigid linden]

at 211 ilvv right now

hes highmountain ROFL

[stray sigil]

what race

[rigid linden]

bullrush

is so bnad

[stray sigil]

okok

not too shabby

i respect it

[rigid linden]

LOL

dude

[stray sigil]

it is fucking troll

[rigid linden]

bullrush + night fae blink

cant ever touch me

[stray sigil]

whenver i q into supa

[clear pulsar]

115 each stat

[stray sigil]

and he bullrushes

randomly

that shit looks hilarious

[inland thorn]

Thanks, sorry I didn't add it was for shadowlands but you all answered it. ❤️

[forest kite]

Damn thanks!

[stray sigil]

almost makes me wanna go highmountain

but it would ruin my mog

so its a no go

[vital parcel]

hightmountain owns

[clear pulsar]

Twin moons always in pvp. Fury of elune is pretty much bis if you're kyrian, but solstice is ok too.

[vital parcel]

• vers aswell

[stray sigil]

i am bt

so

stomp is too good

unfortunately

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

u think i wanna waste my cp on maim ?

[clear pulsar]

You using warstomp as a stun on kt bro?

[stray sigil]

fuck no bro

[clear pulsar]

[vital parcel]

what do u do if u a cat bullrushes u

u freak out

[stray sigil]

i warstomp

into big bite

they die

everytime

[clear pulsar]

Lmao

Sounds nasty

[stray sigil]

people just dont expect to die

in a 2s stun lol

[clear pulsar]

Just bull rush

They'll think you are running away

Then you 180 noscope bite their ass

[stray sigil]

bullrush puts u far way

[analog granite]

if you die to a feral rush you're bad

[stray sigil]

not worth

[clear pulsar]

Play balance aff

[stray sigil]

whats a feral rush

[clear pulsar]

Hit from very far

[stray sigil]

3 yrds

very far

[clear pulsar]

8yd total range

[analog granite]

convoke in opener

[stray sigil]

who said anything about convopke

[clear pulsar]

Bro its actually fucking noticeable s2g

[vital parcel]

bruh

[stray sigil]

i dont play garbage convoke

[vital parcel]

u rush in and convoke during the rush

[stray sigil]

dont insult me

[vital parcel]

pog

[clear pulsar]

The extra range is sooo nice

[gloomy token]

Dash from gate open rake convoke giga brain strat

Win fast eat ass

[fallen ibex]

sorry for the noob question, but how would you rank the covenants relative to each other for feral pvp

[stray sigil]

play bt kill stupid warrior in opener

np

[vital parcel]

kyrian good

convoke fun

[stray sigil]

kyrian >= nf > rest

[clear pulsar]

Kyrian > NF >>> Necro > Venthyr

[vital parcel]

isnt it like

[clear pulsar]

Necro > Venthyr really only on basis of the soulbind

[fallen ibex]

when you play kyrian do you share the buff or just keep it on yourself

[vital parcel]

kyrian > nf > necro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> venthyr

[stray sigil]

urself only

[clear pulsar]

The spells themselves are pretty unimpactful

[ruby walrus]

Anyone know if the BG even stacks with the enlistment bonus?

[solemn yoke]

@stray sigil can you link ur armory cause now i'm just curious how u play curio bt

[clear pulsar]

You gonna watch his demos

From armory?

[stray sigil]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/us/nerzhul/fuji

[solemn yoke]

Nah more so to like see the rest of the talents

So i can int trying to replicate it

[stray sigil]

its pretty basic stuff

just bt and curio

[solemn yoke]

Amd tank my rating

[vital parcel]

dont u want roar if curio

[stray sigil]

i didnt like roar

[clear pulsar]

[edgy shale]

why do ppl keep saying that

[stray sigil]

too many globals

[clear pulsar]

Maybe cuz of pve sims idk @split fern

[edgy shale]

i swear like 10 ppl have come in and asked that, and i legit dont understand why

[clear pulsar]

Why do I always tag alpaca god

When I type @lpod

[edgy shale]

idk lol

[vital parcel]

idk

im a boomie

[edgy shale]

naw im not even calling u out, its been like 10 people ike i said. I think facerson is right. its just like curio+savage roar might be good for pve

[stray sigil]

i might give roar a try

into like

uh

fire mage/healre or lock/healer maybe

but rest its worthless imo

[devout phoenix]

what legendary do people use when they play guardian in RBGs?

[gloomy token]

Why you gotta do me like that

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

necrolord more like

necrotrash

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

I was testing ff earlier with diff weapons, mastery works correctly but its definitely fucky with the weapon dps calculation @gloomy token

[gloomy token]

Ya i saw

[clear pulsar]

I think its not simply failing to calc weapon dps in the formula

It's something else

So fixing wouldnt be a 28% buff

[gloomy token]

Buff me you fucks

[clear pulsar]

But maybe 15 or 17%

[crude minnow]

.... you can swap gear/leggos in rbgs?????????????

[clear pulsar]

Yes

[tulip falcon]

ya

[clear pulsar]

You can swap weapon in arena too

Btw

[crude minnow]

So i can swap between sleeper/NOW or BOAT/Dreambinder for convoke????

[clear pulsar]

Out of combat only tho I think

Yes @crude minnow

[crude minnow]

cause that is soooooo strong

[stray sigil]

uh i dont think u can swap leggos outside of starting zone 1min thing

[clear pulsar]

In rbgs yes you can anytime bro

Any gear

In arena I've been able to swap wep out of combat

When I got 226 from vault and my saved set was still using the old one

[random patrol]

I trinket swap all the time in rbgs

between medallion and relentless

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's good for not getting kidney capped probably

Macro the swap

So when you trinket blind you auto equip rele or adap

[stray sigil]

wtf u can swap lego in rbgs

no shot

no way jose

[random patrol]

yep

[clear pulsar]

Not really relevant for feral tbh but

Yeah sick for boomie

And guardian

[stray sigil]

i mean when ur doing the fast caps

can just put on the skin lego

[edgy shale]

ye I'd also do Now for base sitting

[stray sigil]

insecure

[edgy shale]

facts

[stray sigil]

everyones name changing

[edgy shale]

i was bullied into it in the feral chat

plus i am a true draught gamer. I've been running it in arena lol

[clear pulsar]

Imagine the insane survivability

Put oath on

Use 2 FRs

Meld swap to barkskin leggo

Have 2 more FRs

[tepid spoke]

or dont play ally

[stray sigil]

dont be alliance

[clear pulsar]

Pls dont talking

If you're jaja

[stray sigil]

those are simps

[clear pulsar]

No hablo paloma

[tepid spoke]

racist

[clear pulsar]

That is indeed a yolo yes

[stray sigil]

are u horde glyph

come over

we are doing some rbgs right now

[clear pulsar]

Always?

[stray sigil]

we could use a boomy

[tulip falcon]

yolo means no fucks given

[clear pulsar]

I mean no calls at all is more yolo than the 'yolo' groups asking for voice chat and a TC

[tepid spoke]

yolo is basically randombg

but you get conquest

[clear pulsar]

You get conquest in random bg too

[tepid spoke]

ima list my yolos from now on giga yolo

[tulip falcon]

when i see rbg groups say yolo i just imagine it as "we queue and dont give a fuck"

[stray sigil]

are u horde brother

come over

we are forming up

ready to take on the world

[tepid spoke]

https://www.twitch.tv/stoopzz_tv/clip/TenderSoftPlumagePeteZaroll?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

apparently guardian is the play now

[twilit siren]

is full moon only removed from balanced spec?

[tepid spoke]

apparently

[wise valley]

6 to 8 inches this weekend

Hell yeah

Covid plus crippling snow storm will really make sure I'm dead

[late stirrup]

I just played against Shadow/Ele as resto druid/boomie and I couldnt ever land a kill, after that ret/boomie and again same thing, they just run on every my offensive and reset until they get a kill 5 mins later

Do you have any tips idk

So frustrating

[edgy shale]

yolo owns

[tepid spoke]

all i do is yolos

fuck hearing nerds

[edgy shale]

idk a lock ghosting a node is pretty pepega cuz wtf was he even leaving to do

[tulip falcon]

lock giga ninja

its hard to pug this season in lfg

since theres no metric to tell if a group is good or dogshit

when cr is irrelevant

lol

idk i was at 2.2mmr on my 185 alt druid

usually high teams doing alt groups at most times i see

or boosting

a few of the top ppl on eu usually make a 2.2 group and just inv whoever and solo carry for their boosts basically

[edgy shale]

lol warden

wont let me say oce word

[tulip falcon]

i mean you cant even say salt water

so

saltwater

nvm it got fixed!

[pallid coral]

pog love when words get added back to my vocabulary

[edgy shale]

i just said i joined some oce rbg groups and i got carried, but the banter involved calling everyone "cant" a lot lol

and the leader screamed so loud holy shit

[clear pulsar]

Bro half those people are running adap, the other half dont have any cc trinket

[sand panther]

Hmm, any tip on surviving for ... 15 seconds at least in arenas as boomie? With no vers gear I can at least survive a good while on my priest as shadow (greater fade, life swap, dispersion, fear) - on the boomie I hit barkskin, use typhoon/ursol's, go bear and hit my heal, and die anyway so fast.

I'm sure it's a "you aren't familiar enough with balance yet" thing, but any very basic tip(s) for getting started in arenas as balance?

Just been queueing into skirmishes so far, so a mix of both.

[errant blaze]

I feel i can survive pretty much everything at 22% vers shit gear. Just need the conduit well honed, go bear and spam thorns, use the armor thing with the rage. Kite with typhooning their ass and root if melee, los if ranged

And remember shapeshifting removes snares

Oh and start in stealth and exit stealth with cc

[devout phoenix]

you can survive a LOT of openers if you run Bear affinity, and go bear -> frenzy regen -> renewal -> barkskin

[errant blaze]

Yea indeed

[mighty yoke]

I feel that way with everything but ww, I have 26%verse and they still shred bear pretty quickly

[errant blaze]

Just kite images, and use thorns

Ye true that aswell :-p

One sad monk confirmed

[edgy shale]

im glad when monk sad

[mighty yoke]

Not that it can’t work, but kiting a ww is easier said than done. They are pretty sticky

Can root, leap away, but they are coming right back after your ass in 6 sec

[errant blaze]

Its hard on a lock, way easier on a boomie

[mighty yoke]

Yeah true

[errant blaze]

Just need to plan ahead tbh

Think about what he might do next

[edgy shale]

the monk is, xuen and the images aren't

[mighty yoke]

How often you win 1v1 against an equally geared monk?

[edgy shale]

thats his point

[errant blaze]

And try to counter

[edgy shale]

monks lose ~50% of their dmg if images / xuen are just chilling rooted

[mighty yoke]

How often tho? Can’t say I’ve seen a Druid beat a monk in 1v1 in a few weeks

Might just have shit druids on my sever tho

[edgy shale]

wait, why r u fixating on beating a monk 1v1. they are stupid 1v1 and in my experience boomies aren't as much

[mighty yoke]

Well folks were saying monks are ez to fight; I agree they are stupid. They def give me a lot of trouble. I run feral / disc in 2s and one of our hardest matchups is monk + healer

I have a lot of trouble with them, clearly I don’t know how to play against them well. But 4k+ dps sustained is a bit overturned

Overtuned *

[edgy shale]

idk if ppl are saying they're easy to fight against. melee cleave tends to be annoying to deal w/ as feral. There is straight-forward counter-play that's easy to enact tho.

doesn't mean its gonna guaranteed a win against the monk

[errant blaze]

No we said kiting them was possible when done right, noone said it was easy to beat them :-d

[mighty yoke]

I mean, someone literally typed ‘ez’

[edgy shale]

yeah, the counterplay is easy to execute. root the images and run away. Not that the entire match is easy

plus, glyph plays boomy not feral

[errant blaze]

Ah i missed the feral part sry, i can only speak as boomie

[mighty yoke]

That’s fair, feral is a different ballgame against them. Can’t go toe to toe

[full cedar]

boomy in rbg's... i assume i want to run incarn/twinmoons but ive had a couple groups tell me to run stellar drift and basically try to like rot out healers mana which doesnt really seem all they effective to me? id figure id go twin moons and keep everyone dotted but focus on using AP to hit kill targets but is there value in dotting and dropping starfalls for max aoe dmg? we were running 2 spriests and an aff lock so maybe it was a comp specific goal

[edgy shale]

the plan is the same as feral though. u just do ur best to root the images/ kite away

u can go toe to toe if they don't have CDs

ish

those people are NOOB lesbomon. rot is some dumb shit in RBGs. I run incarn, twin moons, and new moon. Dot everyone up, get my full moon ready, root beam on healers, then i just call my burst coming down, incarn+badge + full moon+ starsurge boom 30k dmg on the kill target

don't starfall

[full cedar]

hmm okay. ty

[crude minnow]

Fury of elune+FoN if you ever sit. I like Fury of elune always cause I use dreambiunder when no convoke

[iron briar]

Psht, how else do you top damage meters without Starfall?

[edgy shale]

yea I've seen people say foe for some maps

[crude minnow]

Win with KBs

[tulip falcon]

rot boomie can work if you're playing a rot comp but there's no point in running that

seen one team play it

[edgy shale]

was it good though?

[tulip falcon]

well they beat us

on deepwind

[edgy shale]

what was the comp?

[tulip falcon]

triple boomie double lock

[edgy shale]

double aff lock?

well thats just a shit ton of damage rot or not lol

[tulip falcon]

they just oomed healers

[crude minnow]

if you wanna run effective rot comp your cc has to be on point

[edgy shale]

yeah

[tulip falcon]

well it was a good team anyway

not like some random 2k pug

[crude minnow]

Ill probably run FOE every game now that I know I can swap to dreambinder whenever I want

[iron briar]

I ran with double boomy double affli to 1.8 was pretty fun, most teams either globalled us or we won on attrition

[full cedar]

im a pve player so im rather geared (223 ilvl) so im not really too worried about it i do a stupid amount of dmg no matter what i do. my fulls moons can crit for 36K is the peak so far in pvp lol my only goal with rating is 1800. 2100 would be great but i dont really "need" it

[edgy shale]

it is pretty annoying getting astral locked w/ new moon, but idk the burst u can pull off on kill targets is just dumb

[tulip falcon]

yea they are 2.8 cr atm playing the comp i mentioned

[edgy shale]

do u run double disc ?

[tulip falcon]

who doesnt

[edgy shale]

i wonder if other healers would have a better shot at not ooming

while also being able to heal the damage

not that it would be worth it just for that 1 comp

[tulip falcon]

rsham can be decent

for teamfight healing

but i feel gimped with rsham on like a flag map

[edgy shale]

yeah, they have pretty shit DRs, huh

[iron briar]

Mana tide in long fights helps with Rsham as well

[edgy shale]

not having a paly to bubble sac seems troll on flag maps

[tulip falcon]

always have pala

sometimes have ran disc/rsham/hpala

[fallen ibex]

why not just have all 3, pally priest and sham

[edgy shale]

some ppl do run that

[tulip falcon]

because double disc is vastly superior on most maps still

[crude minnow]

Can also just run 2 disc then run an ele

[inland thorn]

Night Fae Boomie, what's the best pvp talent build?

Also still not sure to run Solstice, Fury of Elune or New Moon for last tier. :/

[crude minnow]

idk why people dont run more eles? burst too hard in fights?

[tulip falcon]

we run ele usually but

i think there aren't many ele that RBG

[edgy shale]

i've plyead w/ some eles. they just call the skyfury totem n its pump time

[tulip falcon]

there's nothing wrong with it

[iron briar]

They are seen as non meta

[blazing shell]

From what i read solstice is best but i haven’t tested it myself

[iron briar]

Played ele up to like 2k RBGs and people thought it was trolling

[tulip falcon]

there's just not many ele that want to actually play rbg

[fallen ibex]

when ele gets all lined up it fuckin drops people

[edgy shale]

fuck solstice

[fallen ibex]

but so does a full moon

[tulip falcon]

ye our ele bangs

actually hate playing without him

[edgy shale]

either drop big beams or big moons

[iron briar]

Run ascendance krassz or nah?

[tulip falcon]

nope

[blazing shell]

Isn’t the cast of full moon an issue ?

[tulip falcon]

stormkeeper always

[iron briar]

Oh ofcourse Sk, derp

[edgy shale]

getting astral locked is annoying, but like its an RBG so u can obv get casts off

palys also running aura mastery

like the interrupt 1

[blazing shell]

Oh yeah forgot about that

[inland thorn]

For the 3 pvp talents for Boomie night fae, I picked: Cresecent Burn, Thorns, and Moonkin Aura. Anything better?

[edgy shale]

i have legit no idea what taht is

oh the moonfire spam 1

[inland thorn]

Oh, the Guardian one looks fun! Ty!

Sorry for so many question, new boomie pvper here! Any tips on smaller 10 vs ten matches? Do you just dot everyone or focus targets? I've been focusing on targets and ccing so my damage isn't too high. Any suggestions?

[forest kite]

What resto leggo do you hunks like to use in RBGs?

[edgy shale]

ill say wat I said earlier. I main feral but play boomy for RBGs, so i keep it simple enough for myself. I run 1/2/2/2/3/2/3. literally just dot everyone up w/ sunfire/moonfire for AP generation, pop incarn+badge+full moon into starsurge spam on the kill target and they die, don't starfall, u need priority targets to die

@inland thorn

and throw a lot of cc. cyclone is dumb good. especially on cart maps, cuz it takes them out of the cart. also root beam healers before u burst, if u can. the dumbasses stand next to each other sometimes so if u can get an aoe root beam on a healer or 2 it can be gg

[clear pulsar]

@stray sigil

[edgy shale]

thats pog

[stray sigil]

not on ring dansgame

but poggers regardless

[clear pulsar]

It's like more than twice the price bro

I'm not swimming in money

We literally can't buy gold with cash

Thru bnet

Only breaking TOS

[edgy shale]

waht server r u

[wise valley]

I offered to give face cash long ago

He just likes the baroque struggle

[edgy shale]

this man just said baroque

[junior plover]

so i tried some 3s

[edgy shale]

thats good shit, congrats

[tranquil canopy]

feral/ww?

[junior plover]

ye

Just so happens that I only have 2 friends who pvp

ww and disc

Theyre all below my cr so its not even like im getting these numbers from being boosted we just won so much lol

[inland thorn]

This is great, ty! I feel silly for asking this, but what is Badge?

[edgy shale]

ya that, there's an honor one too

[wise valley]

@junior plover thats good looking pic

[inland thorn]

Oh, nice! I'll be sure to pick this up and update my talents. Ty so much! ❤️

[edgy shale]

[junior plover]

WHAT

HE OPENED WITH 5 LAVA BURSTS

?????????????????

[junior plover]

it is indeed pretty

[wise valley]

Okay

Gimme the deets

[edgy shale]

is that rng?

i really have no idea how ele works

[junior plover]

No clue

But our ww

died in a gcd

from 90%

[edgy shale]

their mastery has a chance of doubling therir spells?

[junior plover]

before we even opened

[wise valley]

Worth going druid first toon or should I just default to lock ro start?

[junior plover]

Both lock and druid are decent rn

lock kinda sucks in 2s tho

[edgy shale]

bro, i was facing that exact choices cuz those are the things I main. I 100% say druid cuz lock could be better in certain ways and maw is hell on earth for locks

[wise valley]

What is maw

[edgy shale]

compared to druids

the grind in this xpac for conduits/ sockets. u can't mount

[wise valley]

Hmm

I've seen only bopping things for boomy

[edgy shale]

feral is good

[wise valley]

Damn tfw you log in and forgot you just dumped 3 toons worth of mats on ah to prep for slands drop @clear pulsar

[sand panther]

Thank you. Already feels better just messing around in skirmishes... also did 1 yolo RBG and it was really fun as well. Now to get some vers gear...

[sand panther]

Thanks!

[clear pulsar]

Big gains????

[junior plover]

Feral is good Boomie is good

Affli is good

Destro is good-ish

[wise valley]

It was like that before tho?

Ele is like whack a mole with glowing buttons

Yeah big dam but I hate that playstyle tbh

Bad rng makes me infuriated

[junior plover]

Just played against 3 previous rank 1s

playing god comp

at 1900

Yeah definitely

we actually

got both block and cauterize

before we lost

so supper happy

[wise valley]

feral running incarn or sotf?

[edgy shale]

sotf incarn is poop

[midnight mountain]

can anyone explain how to speed cap on EOTS as balance? I try dash - jump - boomy wild charge - flap but i didnt really get far enough

[junior plover]

wat

these shamans

both flavors

rnging on me

[wise valley]

new starting zone?

sick new character looks

@midnight mountain youre not gliding close enough then

[junior plover]

Yeah they added a new player experience

[wise valley]

oh its like the class trial shit

[candid dragon]

Yo, quick question. Noticed in the AWC earlier the druids going kyrian tended to use BOAT. Is it a new shift in things or just their preference over say Dreambinder as a Kyrian balance?

Cheers. Got a 225 boat and debating go Kyrian so, just wondering the choices.

[kindred galleon]

I like that you have a bigger window of SS spam with dreambinder over the ”guaranteed” crit

[candid dragon]

Ye, that makes sense.

[inland thorn]

@edgy shale I forgot to ask, when you do pop Convoke with everything you mentioned earlier? I can't believe I forgot to ask about that one lmao

[hushed bluff]

@wise valley incarn isn’t bad into double deeps as feral. It has its uses.

[jolly leaf]

Whats so bad about incarn?

get a free stun and reset enemy's target

and u hit em with the big owies

[hushed bluff]

Sotf is the better choice overall

[jolly leaf]

I know sotf is much better vs a healer or in 3s

I just found a lot of success (in scrub mmr) with incarn for 2s

[hushed bluff]

Ya lol short games

[wise valley]

Asking more for baseline

[hushed bluff]

If they last 30 secs it’s perfect haha

[wise valley]

If maw is only place u can't mount

That's cool

[edgy shale]

ya u can pop convoke whenever u want during CA. prob early for the mastery

[inland thorn]

Awesome ty! And sorry forgot to say for boomy to those who replied as well. ❤️

[wise valley]

What people do i choose

Faction

[stray sigil]

yes

[wise valley]

Is that fuji

My man went full bt avatar

[edgy shale]

horde bro

[wise valley]

No

The people

In shadowlands

[edgy shale]

oh ur cov lol

u picked druid, right?

[wise valley]

Yeah

I'm a druid

Listen imxdying of covid not a new playerr

[edgy shale]

u dont need to choose for a while just try them all out, but kyrian is prettty much best for pvp

[wise valley]

Oh u can swap?

[edgy shale]

yeah

the game lets u try them all wshile levleing tho

spooiler alert

[wise valley]

Cool

Is it based on class how u choose or spec

[edgy shale]

based on class

[wise valley]

Dope

[junior plover]

My god

i won like

4 2v3s by now

with people overextending into convoke

and then just flexing with my 2v2 dick

[edgy shale]

ya thats been my strat lol. if a teammate dies i try to get a convoke cheese kill, and if it fails i /afk

[stray sigil]

@wise valley if u go night gay

u are dead to me

do u want big dam

or big cheese dam

?

[edgy shale]

i already told him kyrian, don't worry brother

formy would rage tho

[wise valley]

I want big cheese damn

[edgy shale]

dont say that

[wise valley]

Also want 2 sleep

I can beat this covid

Won't die with elemond higher cr than me

[tiny oar]

[junior plover]

[green valve]

How do you guys setup kills outside of voke/incarn windows?

Pool astral eclipse surge?

With an off clone?

[junior plover]

In 3s?

Play support and clone

[edgy shale]

im addicted to boomy clone range

so sad when u switch back

[green valve]

Aight cool, i just need more gear then

[junior plover]

wait boomy has more clone range

😠

[edgy shale]

boomy has 45 yard range for its 40 yard abilities

long ass range mofuckers

longestrs except mm i think

[stray sigil]

@wise valley that is unlikely remi hasnt played in like months and he was hardstuck

but may i inquire u in the bt curio dream

[primal bane]

whats the range on cyclone for feral

it feels like light and day when i go into boomie

[tiny oar]

I'd imagine 20 yards same as resto w/o balance aff

[primal bane]

also

do you think if they ever seriously nerf convoke

will feral suffer more than boomie?

bc right now watching feral pvp i see convoke a muc bigger win con for them than for boomie

[edgy shale]

ye its 20

balance gets +5

[clear pulsar]

Feral convoke doesnt do jack compared to boomie convoke

I am on the brink of swapping to kyrian

[tiny oar]

Dont do it brother

[stray sigil]

yes yes

good

he crafted curio

[tiny oar]

Stay strong for the fae

[stray sigil]

now hes thinking of going kyrian

the way

[clear pulsar]

Idk like

With the amount of hpalas in the game, giving up pressure on every other go for one trump card spell seems a bit pointless ye?

[edgy shale]

yea, u dont pve much so why not kyrian

[stray sigil]

thats what i said

but he is pepega

[clear pulsar]

I deadass skull bashed a holy pala and got a full convoke off

[stray sigil]

im telling u

full convoke

does jackshit

as feral

[clear pulsar]

It didnt even trigger his prot leggo

[stray sigil]

it is not the way

maybe bt convoke

with conflux

other than that nop

[tiny oar]

I would b convoke if u didnt need to be necro to actually heal as rdru

[gloomy token]

Necro gang

[junior plover]

Full convoke

[strange scarab]

Guys did you try : as resto Druid, in arena, « balance of all things » legendary : hotw, 2 wrath from stealth then eclipse and convoke?

[junior plover]

kills disc

through PS

thats enough for me

but yeah now that im playing 3s

i'll end up swapping kyrian

[clear pulsar]

Only if they're absolute morons lol

[stray sigil]

idk i feel like convoke on disc is even worse than hpal

cuz they have 30% dr perma

[junior plover]

I mean works for me all the way into 2.2k

lul

[edgy shale]

wait facerson, i thought kicking disc priest shadow then convoke was the play

[clear pulsar]

They can use every defensive and radiance for 20k

[stray sigil]

isnt ps on holy

[clear pulsar]

Kicking holy when fear is on cd is more likely to get a kill tbh

And yeah sometimes they die

[stray sigil]

ya then he just doors in ur face

for the incap

LUL

[junior plover]

Yeah kick holy with fear on cd

is what i mean

[edgy shale]

hmm, the strategies have evolved

[primal bane]

do i need good ilvl do to high torghast?

actually

is soul ash a account wide currency?

[clear pulsar]

What is good ilvl

[edgy shale]

no

[clear pulsar]

U can do it at 170

Layer 8s

[lapis mica]

no, character specific, no catch up

[clear pulsar]

At least on warrior and druid thats where I was

[edgy shale]

at least they added the layer catchup

[lapis mica]

can clear layer 8s at a lower ilvl, will just take longer

[primal bane]

can i solo it as shaman?

[clear pulsar]

I mean

[primal bane]

idc if it takkes 45 minutes

[clear pulsar]

U can make a 190 week 1

[lapis mica]

all specs can solo it

[clear pulsar]

The further soul ash is just for ilvl upgrades

[primal bane]

i mean shaman is not really a spec

[clear pulsar]

Are u doing it without selecting a spec then?

Revolutionary

[edgy shale]

that might be hard actually

[clear pulsar]

Pls share results

[primal bane]

brain activity on life support i see

[clear pulsar]

Leveld all the way from 1 without picking spec

Truly one of a kind

[lapis mica]

nah its been done

mostly hunters tho

[clear pulsar]

Lower iq than cope

Get fukt shit kid

[primal bane]

shaman is not a spec

dumbass

there

[edgy shale]

cope...

[primal bane]

gave you the hint

[edgy shale]

actually what r u saying

[primal bane]

i know

druid can fucking clear it on every spec

[edgy shale]

he said all specs can solo it, as in every shaman spec can solo it

[primal bane]

u go invis

u kill final boss of the floor

u go next

[edgy shale]

and ur acting like he's talking in another language

[lapis mica]

being deliberately obtuse lol

[edgy shale]

thats actually cope in a nutshell

[primal bane]

being deliberately obtuse as in like

making a case for non-druid classes in druid channel

[lapis mica]

cuz no one here plays other classes ever

[primal bane]

thats somewhat close to the truth

[edgy shale]

why becuz we play druids do we need to downplay the ability of other classes lol

[strange scarab]

You can try. Then you wipe, you can’t get back to the lower floors, you’re screwed. End of the story

[primal bane]

sounds like a very good strategy

[clear pulsar]

Every spec in the game

Can solo torghast

At 170 ilvl

This is what steve said

Your question made it very clear you were talking about shaman buddy

And he answered with 'every spec can do it'

'SHAMAN IS NOT A SPEC'

And the ndoubled down on it again

Had the GALL

To say I COULDNT READ

LMAO

[lapis mica]

[clear pulsar]

Just an absolute idiot bro

It's not bait

[strange scarab]

@clear pulsar you’re loosing your time

[clear pulsar]

It's just cope

I am baffled

[strange scarab]

He’s gone anyway

[clear pulsar]

I thought I'd seen the worst of him

[stray sigil]

[junior plover]

Mage died to convoke

last convoke bite bit his cauterize for 22k

insta died

[clear pulsar]

Lmao how are these people letting convokes go thru bro

It's easier in 3s with a proper setup

Than in 2s with an rsham I guess

[stray sigil]

were not disgusting boomy players

[clear pulsar]

Bro

Every single game is an hpal

What do you think they do with their bops?

Other than stop convoke

[stray sigil]

ya but then u dont do dmg anyways

[clear pulsar]

Yeah ofc I'm pressing the spell

And getting bops out the way

I guess

[junior plover]

Actually was setup

[primal bane]

damn

that was a lot

[edgy shale]

yea, boomy aff and convoke in boomy form is the play

drop FMs on dem

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

lol

[stray sigil]

enough convoke nonesense

more bt curio

@clear pulsar did u try it yet

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it feels aight, couldn't justify doing it more than a few games, felt naked without NOW

Maybe with an hpal

[stray sigil]

wtf

i played it today with smight again

we cant lose

[clear pulsar]

Well maybe disc too cuz big defensive cds but

With rsham it was rough

Feral rsham 2s not the move

[stray sigil]

i just tell bitch ass smight

u press dark on my kyrian

and we take heads

had a warrior die in opener in stomp

KEK

[clear pulsar]

Yeah the dam is more of the important part of disc too

Big contributions

[stray sigil]

rsham dam not too awful

if he gets lb procs and shit

thats like 5-6k dmg kinda nutty

[worthy vessel]

How's Memory of Deep focus for balance PvP?

[clear pulsar]

Absolutely worthless

[edgy shale]

i can't tell him that w/ this name

[clear pulsar]

Easily the worst dmg legendary you could wear as boomie lol

[worthy vessel]

lol, well shit. on paper just seemed like a good middle of the road one. Ups your dot dmg and self heals

[edgy shale]

ups moonfire on 1 target only if its more u lose bonus

[worthy vessel]

ohhhhhh

yeah, ok that does change things

[primal bane]

middle of the road not v good strat

you will replace it like 2 days later

legs were distributed randomly so not like best leg come from hardest content

[forest kite]

which will be easier to climb in arena on, boomie or feral?

[primal bane]

im thinking getting sire drops can be difficult for some

but yeah outside of that legendaries are like change you find on the sidewalk

@forest kite boomie for 3s, feral for 2s, this if youre really good at both, otherwise boomie for both

[forest kite]

tyty

any specific comps we were better with as boomie?

[edgy shale]

the real answer is boomy and rbg

[forest kite]

hmm true

[primal bane]

a scam

LFG still tumor ridden even when u play boom

[forest kite]

what you mean?

[primal bane]

rated BGs LFG is very dumb, uncoordinated and has very high demands even if you are a well geared SS class

finding a small RBG community is the key to success

also for 3s best comps should be ele/spriest/ret from my experience

fmage too but you need to talk with each other

hpal is best healer in all of these

[forest kite]

i just want 2400 and ez haha

[edgy shale]

i mean 2400 isn't gonna be easy to matter what

[primal bane]

if thats ever going to happen, it will be in RBGs

[forest kite]

i know 😦 ahaha

[primal bane]

even 1800 is hard when you start

[edgy shale]

don't say ever cope lol, I fully believe in anyone's ability to hit 2400 in arena just a matter of grindidng and learning

[forest kite]

my goal this week

is 1600

[primal bane]

isnt glad like 1% or less of the pvp population?

[edgy shale]

not that I've hit 2400 so i don't talk from experience

[primal bane]

i think 1800 is absolutely a grinding issue

[edgy shale]

99% of people who didn't grind / learn enough

[primal bane]

but 2400 feels more like an actual wall

[edgy shale]

yea u can't type that lol

u can't type that either

[primal bane]

redacted shit indeed

whts ur ilvl

[edgy shale]

but yea i see

ret pal is discusting

[primal bane]

its ok tho

[unreal jewel]

I think someone needs to take a deep breath

[primal bane]

boomie can do same sometimes when he hits a 5% or less lottery ticket with convoke

[stray sigil]

sounds like u got outplayed

[gloomy token]

Outskilled

[tiny oar]

[tiny oar]

I remind myself that every time I fight warriors

[stray sigil]

dw warriors were unplayable

5% buff about to put them back in line with other classes

[edgy shale]

lakerz how did u react when u read hte patch notes?

[tiny oar]

Yea I mean they're pve changes they mean nothing basically lol

[stray sigil]

[edgy shale]

no, tell us u screamed

[strong otter]

that death log was after I killed healer lmao

[tiny oar]

All these idiot youtubers making a 10m video out of 5 3% dmg buffs like so cringe man

[strong otter]

this dude just does his pve rotation and hits 16k random 1 shots

[stray sigil]

hey bro 5% surv buff

[strong otter]

what a dipshit moron fucking idiot

[stray sigil]

we rly out here

r1 here we cone

come

[tiny oar]

Pog willyy love

[edgy shale]

more gets wardened than he types lol

[stray sigil]

nobody csn stop me now

s tier class now

for sure

FOR SURE

[tiny oar]

Yea that 20% pet buff too u guys r gonna own the ladder

[stray sigil]

oh yes unstoppable

too bad we are wannabe rbgers now

[tiny oar]

O no

Dont become rbg expert like glyph bro

[stray sigil]

2 ferals 1 surv hunter

the dream squad

[primal bane]

whats the issue of surv right now

just dogshit dmg?

[junior plover]

Its mm but melee

and less damage

[primal bane]

i mean MM has every tool all the other specs of hunter have

besides maybe 5 sec cc

average roots, shit sustain, decent damage

first main i ever had was hunter and i always was suprised to fight another class

and see that there is yet another brick of defensive they have

while my pvp defensive is supposed to be them attacking my pet ??

[edgy shale]

[primal bane]

give my boy some real defense then he will be fine

[stray sigil]

surv has like no burst

if u kill pet

u cant do dmg

[tiny oar]

Pet actually so toxic to heal into sum comps

Been queuing scatter n the dumb raptor will just die instantly to a wingsed ret

[stray sigil]

oh yes i still have ptsd from vanguards wingsing willys pet

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

will def haunt me forever

[faint wolf]

is there a section for Resto PVP bonds etc?

[primal bane]

u know what surv needs?

stealth attack bonuses

make him another knockoff feral/rogue

[strong otter]

So ive been playing 2s for about 2 hours and have been tracking every one of my games

almost every single loss except 1 has been a cheese death.

like a 21k the hunt, or 30k paladin 1 shot.

with no setup, no skill employed whatsoever.

this state of pvp is so fucking ridiculous

[tiny oar]

Kinda sounds like sum wack shit is happening on ur end tbh

Trade cds for hunt gg ur alive clone wings gg ur alive idk

I've seen some pretty ridiculous dmg but nothing 1 gcd kill worthy

In 2s especially

[primal bane]

he's probably venting

those classes usually play a double melee dps

or pally doing heal aids

and it looks like all they do is run you down until it works

which is kind of true, they dont htink much before PVEing one guy

[lapis mica]

(in multiple discord pvp channels, even)

[primal bane]

but its stoppable

[long flower]

Gzz its a nightmare trying to get into RBGS as feral ><

[strong otter]

its no skill cheese lmao they are just pveing at that point its fucking sad

[edgy shale]

then stop playing feral in RBGs and play boomy

OR craft a guardian leggo so u can FC

[surreal heron]

[tiny oar]

[strong otter]

this fucking idiots have no skill, make mistakes all game then pve 1 shot from some moron cheese shit lmao

its fucking pathetic

[lapis mica]

this guy trying to use the 'yellow condiment' word

[unreal jewel]

Clearly needs a hug

[primal bane]

i quit a wintergrasp attack epic BG

you wont believe which is the next BG i get into

[lapis mica]

a half over ashran?

[lapis mica]

nice

[tiny oar]

Its gonna b ok @strong otter I get angry at sum things 2 just gotta take a deep breath n assess what u could have done better to win 🙂

[edgy shale]

and anyway, he's right this meta has some dumb burst, u can do it to them as well

assume ur playinh druid, kinda dumb burst on both dps druid specs

[primal bane]

does the deserter buff increase?

like from 15 to 30 etc?

[lapis mica]

nah

[primal bane]

great

[strong otter]

Point is sometimes there isnothing you could have done better

[strong otter]

In fact, you can be a better player, outplay the enemy, and still lose. Which is a reason pvp in this game sucks major fat whore cock sometimes

[slim crater]

https://murlok.io/druid/balance/3v3

[edgy shale]

it finally got updated?

[rigid linden]

noice bois

horde feral 2.4 now

can get big juice

just needa honor farm LOL

[forest kite]

is ret pally or arms war stronger atm

in 2s

[signal sigil]

is there a pvp guide for balance anywhere? just want to know the basics without having to watch a 30min video. talents/conduits ect

[tiny oar]

They both good

[tiny oar]

Boomie guide in pins

[strong otter]

Oof. Leveling moonkin has probably been the most unenjoyable leveling experience ive ever had in this game.

This spec is absolute trash before level 60

[signal sigil]

oh the guide is the pin, thank you. was looking for a link lol

[edgy shale]

cant u just moonfire everything and starfall?

[tiny oar]

Ur an inspiration 2 druids everywhere keep pumping buddy

[edgy shale]

thats wat i did from 50-60

[lean lantern]

For rbgs balance Druid is circle good enough over boat?

[tiny oar]

Yea idk like its lvling most free content in the entire game just press buttons ofc it's not fun unless u enjoy lvling.

[edgy shale]

u mean like ur a feral player with circle and u wanna just use it for rbgs? ya thats fine

I literally use pulsar and im climbing liek a mofo in rbgs. it don't matter so much. altho boat is pretty strong

well its not as bad as the guy that wanted to use draught in rbgs lol

[lean lantern]

Okay sweet I’ll just craft boat

[primal bane]

ayooo

wintergrasp 3RD TIME IN A ROW

this time im defending tho

[tiny oar]

Necrolord feral draught gamer

[edgy shale]

[tiny oar]

Nice cope put the fear of god in em buddy

[forest kite]

is there a website i can look at to show me % of players in each ranking?

[errant blaze]

Anyone got the weakaura for enemy drinking?

[twilit siren]

do crits only do 150% damage? Is crit rate adjusted so crit rating isn't devalued?

[lime light]

175

[primal bane]

you know its a great day to be an alliance player

being top dps with ilvl 160

155*

[wheat geyser]

Is insignia any good compared to badge? (Feral)

[forest kite]

what is the point of conquest caping this xpac

new to arena idk

[lapis mica]

they added vendors back. can buy gear with conq

[tiny oar]

HUGE PVP GEAR

[primal bane]

what are the main benefits of going resto affinity on feral

[queen copper]

anyone got the site that showed a graph of your current rating and where it was amongst the region

[primal bane]

giving up frenzy regen and roar feels impossible to me

[queen copper]

was blueish color.... cant find it again =S

[edgy shale]

ursols is broken and heals idk

i always run guardian cuz i dont have that much vers %

[primal bane]

https://luduslabs.org/sotl

search around here easy to find

top tier site too btw

[lime light]

resto affinity is way more healing, saving healers mana

big burst healing

good peels vs double donki kongs

training your healer

[edgy shale]

ye my swiftmend crits for like 30k w/o damp

[primal bane]

apex still best pvp leggo?

[lime light]

guardian affinity way better, when u are getting trained

idk COpe

what crack

do u use

but its hella strong

LIKE SUPER STRONG

and i suggest u

to stop using it

[edgy shale]

wachu mean cope

[primal bane]

what trigger did i trigger now

[lime light]

its bad for your health

u cant trigger me

[edgy shale]

lmao cope

[lime light]

i have seen

everything here

[edgy shale]

HE JUST DID THO TIAN

[primal bane]

yeah this certainly is normal behaviour

[edgy shale]

apex has never been the best feral pvp leggo is why u set him off i think

[lime light]

no, thats my normal

state

[primal bane]

AHAHAHAHA

idk someone here said its pretty strong and i mean

it has potential

[queen copper]

yep cheers. couyldnt figure out a search term to hit it

[primal bane]

but i never see feral leggos talked about here

[edgy shale]

ok, it is pretty strong and it does have potential, but that doesn't mean its the best pvp leggo like u said

bruh WHAT fuji talks about curio 100x a day

[hushed bluff]

It’s fun to use when bleeding two dps. It cracks me up when both bites crit

[edgy shale]

basically, sym is considered the best and its wat most high rated ferals use. fuji uses curio+bt+kyrian and he tries to bring ppl into his cult. Some ppl run apex too. I've been trying draught in 2s. NoW is also a good option if ur afraid of getting 1 shot, i believe facerton is becoming fully addicting to it, rip him.

[lime light]

FEJI IS A KID

[edgy shale]

if u want my advice: I'd use whatever tian uses

[primal bane]

hey tian

do you use apex?

[queen copper]

ooh yum

wonder how far up rbg will inflate

[edgy shale]

wow these graphs make it so dam cringe obvious how much easier RBGs are than arena

most of the RBG population is between 1600-1800, and 2s the avg is closer to 1200...

[primal bane]

i mean its genuinely impossible to be otherwise

your placements in RBG

you cant lose rting and gain 192 every win

so u always get 1.6k, worst scenario like 1.5k

[edgy shale]

ya, its obvious how much easier it is, but to see it in numbers is that much more effective

i didnt know it was like a ~600 avg rating difference

[queen copper]

you do lose rating in rbgs

once you are at your mmr

very easy to lose 12-15 and win the same now

[edgy shale]

ya i think he just meant placements

[primal bane]

until you go above 1.5k you dont lose like anything

if you do its something like 5-8

[queen copper]

oh sure 1500

[primal bane]

and you always gain 192

yeah

so a lot of ppl can just go 1.6k for free

then never pvp again

[edgy shale]

heroic gear?

i guess

[primal bane]

idk man getting gear has been a chore past 220

even 220 is not that fun

[queen copper]

im 222.

[primal bane]

wow is so much more about who you know than what you know

[queen copper]

seems abotu the limit is

with 233 weaps

[edgy shale]

2100 in RBGs is legitimately not bad

at all