pvp

[tiny oar]

Same idea I guess

[limpid geyser]

What leggo do you guys run for being flag carrier in rbgs? If you are guardian

Ty

[tiny oar]

Can u rly leggo swap like that in rbgs damn nice

Makes sense I guess just makes me miss the old legion m+ swapping

[limpid geyser]

Wait which is the immunity one?

[edgy shale]

sleeper

Legacy of the Sleeper

[limpid geyser]

Ohhh lol

Ty

[lone bear]

What legendary are resto druids playing in rbgs and in high cr arenas?

[tiny oar]

Verdant infusion for arena mother tree for bgs @lone bear

[lone bear]

oh 😦 2 different legos

ty tho big info ❤️

[tiny oar]

Ur prolly fine with verdant in bgs too tbh

Looks like most are just playing verdant regardless

[stone nest]

Get pod out of the damn arena

I’m tilted

Most the time it’s not an issue

[fresh lake]

is catweaving as resto a thing any more or is it just too bursty

[edgy shale]

its a thing. stun people. cat convoke n own people.

[rain field]

how do you guys deal with spriests one on one as a boomkin

[edgy shale]

lakerz is a master of that gameplay, he is a resto who is secretly a feral player

u should @ him for help

pretty sure u hold that loss there

[rain field]

assuming convoke is on cd

yeah thats what i thought damn

[edgy shale]

u shouldn't be able to get convoke off ag ainst spriest anyway like how

[rain field]

yeah lol

[edgy shale]

assuming 1v1

[rain field]

besides bash into convoke

even then trinket silence gg

[edgy shale]

if ur close enuf to bash he could even just trinket fear

then ur really fucked

altho dik im not a master of balance 1v1

[tiny oar]

Dont @ me I'm a donkey

But yea u can feral with classes that support u well with peels godcomp splay etc

Watch flop or nogard 4 feral aff gameplay

[surreal loom]

Wait, can you auto attack through pillars with balance affinity/moonkin's astral influence?

[tall surge]

For those of you playing nightfae resto druid, what soulbind is best? im seeing most people are playing necro for resto but i still want the option of playing boomy etc

[untold vale]

Why doesn't feral/rogue work anymore (used to in the days) ?

[dusk light]

can arena opponents see your /say?

[analog granite]

pro tip. when you insta pop the dps go tree form to tilt the heals

[bitter harness]

no

[stone nest]

Did dhs get buffed?

[safe heart]

yea

[stone nest]

The pressure is very much higher

[final solstice]

Imagine buffing dh 💩

[strong spear]

Question

I heared some people talking. rip shouldn't be used in PvP?

or at least a full rip?

[iron briar]

Hi all, about to ding on my second Dudu to play as feral In pvp with symmetry, kyrian or NF better? Likely going to push 3s in jungle cleave and boost 2s up to 1.6/1.8? I’m thinking kyrian for the minute long burst windows

Minute cd burst windows *

[weak hinge]

@iron briar yes kyrian

@strong spear yes u usually just use rip to buff fb dmg. But depends. I see bean use 5cp rip sometimes. Don’t know why tho

[tender mulch]

Guys, for PvP Boomkins what secondary stats should we be looking to get (% wise) - I've seen some god with no haste and full mastery, or 10% haste rest mastery, and others running full haste and remaining in mastery.. But what would you choose and why? (+2.1 rating)

[wheat geyser]

Is apex crap for feral arenas ?

[rich geode]

Hi guys, is stellar inspiration or conflux bis in rbgs for boomkin?

[strong spear]

@weak hinge Yeah okay I didn't know. So open with prounce, rip, combo to 5 FB, [ability to get 5 cp], and fb basically?

[gloomy token]

Does the rake pvp talent apply to the whole rake or just the direct damage portion

[tardy hare]

Direct

[hardy blade]

how does feral compare to boomkin?

[slim crater]

@vestal citrus to glyph, you doing rbgs still?

Been seeing an increasing amount of full moon boomies

And wanted your opinion

[vast vapor]

its FUN

[vast vapor]

wowhead guide by syfoxy is very good and explains these too

[tiny oar]

starsurge is a fun button 2 press 4 sure

[worthy parrot]

Can someone explain this?

a 42k pyroblast

[lime light]

Go and read last talent row

Talent for mage

And come back

And confess

How u let him cast a 4 sec spell

[worthy parrot]

Oh so pyroclasm

yeah he played with a prot pala so he was kick immune during that window

Ah well, was fun. I confess

[gloomy token]

Line of sight is your friend

[worthy parrot]

Thank you for the tip

[gloomy token]

:^)

[worthy parrot]

I was hoj'd though

[gloomy token]

Tfw no tronkit

[fluid elk]

What is the best comp for 3s with resto dru?

[solid sapphire]

As Kyrian Boomie/feral, do you link to someone, or yourself?

[tiny oar]

godcomp splay turbo ret warr all good

[tiny oar]

urself

[gloomy token]

I'm redacted whats Godcomp

[solid sapphire]

THanks

[vital parcel]

what feral potency conduit do u guys use?

[clear pulsar]

Bite conflux tf

[vital parcel]

forgot to mention that im NF ^^

thanks tho

tf or bite if only 1?

gonna use korayn for feral and niya for boomie

[junior plover]

I'd stick to Niya for Feral

at least for 2 more weeks

[vital parcel]

Feral is my os so

Mostly playing boomie, not really using korayn so figured I could try it whenever I wanted to go feral

I'll probably go with the bite conduit

[final solstice]

what happens in 2 weeks?

[junior plover]

Last row of Korayn

[final solstice]

oh, i read that wrong, thought you were talking about KYRIAN.. my bad

[junior plover]

😛

[haughty compass]

My alt is feral, Venthyr tho.... it’s a tough ability

[vital parcel]

pog

[vagrant crane]

Is there a prio list for conquest items on boomie?

[vital parcel]

Dont think so

But either u save for weapon first or buy everything else and hope to get it in chest

[vagrant crane]

Ah cool ty

[fathom oxide]

how is spriest rdudu in 2s?

[haughty compass]

Apex an option?

[tulip falcon]

it's usable

i can't compare it to symm since i've not bothered to get it, but it definitely is a viable option

you just have to pray to RNG gods

[haughty compass]

Just need to do some pve to get my ilvl up a little bit. My friends still learning the game

Alt feral kitty cleave as Venthyr with a mist weaver

Struggle bus

[tulip falcon]

yea i don't think swapping out apex for something else would make a massive difference

the legendaries aren't integral to gameplay like some specs

[haughty compass]

It seems that way, thanks

I’ll just keep sym.

[wheat geyser]

Feral rdruid and/or dual feral any good in 2's?

(lowest rank possible)

[foggy ravine]

Ya feral rdruid is viable

And honestly gonna be p good vs warrior healer imo

If warrior sits rdruid, rdruid can kite while feral has 100% uptime on enemy healer and if warrior is on feral you have two thorns to rotate through

[earnest turret]

What happened to the boomie pvp guide on wowhead? :(

[wheat geyser]

Thx

[fathom oxide]

how is spriest rdudu in 2s?

around 1,7k-1,8

[primal bane]

is warlock playable with only this hotbar?

[vapid crane]

Which healer do people play with boomie in twos

hpal?

[foggy ravine]

Ret

Ya hpal works

Double dps as boomkin is fun

[vapid crane]

I've only played double DPS so far this season

[errant blaze]

If the rest is just hidden, yes 🙂

[vapid crane]

but my partner isnt playing atm and im around 2k cr - probably easier to hit 2.1 pugging with a healer

[foggy ravine]

True I feel like double dps requires good coordination

[vapid crane]

yup

[stray sigil]

@foggy ravine feral rdru should never win vs warrior teams

@tiny oar can attest

[neon eagle]

Hi hi, I'm looking at getting into some RBGs, more specifcally Guardian druid. I know the main gist is to play whatever you like the look of. But how good are kul'tiran druids in PvP as opposed to Night Elf druids?

[vapid crane]

The reason why people say play whatever you like

is because it doesn't matter

[neon eagle]

was just checking what your guys' thoughts were, but ty

[chrome panther]

shadowmeld op

just go night elf if alliance

[clear pulsar]

Kultiran is hilarious

You ever see someone get haymakered off the side?

[tiny oar]

i sure can buddy holy fuck lmao

[clear pulsar]

I don't think you fulfill that potential very often but the potential is there for hilarious moments

Shadowmeld is better

But like

[tiny oar]

fighting jelly warr its actually the most toxic shit ive ever witnessed

[clear pulsar]

Just play good you dont need it

Jelly warr? @tiny oar

[tiny oar]

ya

[foggy ravine]

Never played feral resto was just a thought on the comp

[clear pulsar]

Thing with facing arms in 2s is they always have a hpala

[stray sigil]

you would think that on paper

[tardy hare]

There are no offensive spells on that bar

[clear pulsar]

Like maybe if it was another healer that doesnt have double freedom

It would feel like a better matchup

But then it's either spam purge rsham

[stray sigil]

but you dont have the dmg or the healing

[clear pulsar]

Or it's double freedom hpal

[stray sigil]

and rdru kinda dies instantly

you def have to play like madlads to win that shit

[clear pulsar]

Like swear to god bro other than WW, arms is the hardest shit to kite properly

[tardy hare]

Literally a cooldown bar only

[foggy ravine]

Ya if they run death sentence it gets tricky to kite

[tiny oar]

yea condemn charge talent awrr actually makes me wanna die tbh

[clear pulsar]

Yeah they just need

Rally, sharpen, death sentence

Who cares about healer in cc if you have rally every min for 70% more hp

[stray sigil]

if hes cheeky he plays reflect talent

[tiny oar]

god forbid if any of them had a brain and played double time with just hpal hojing on cd

[stray sigil]

and ur kinda fucked too

[tiny oar]

would actually b impossible

[stray sigil]

they dont even need bolt too

wild

[tiny oar]

yea

like swear double charge would be better

just pure WW mobility with condemn charge 2x charge n leap

[foggy ravine]

omg

that would actually be aids

[empty badge]

Is there anywhere I can find how much honor to rank up conquest gear?

[clear pulsar]

I have a spreadsheet I put together

Weapon to 233 is 11200 I think

I'm not 100% on the weapon costs cuz I got mine from vault

But everything else is right

[tardy hare]

11800 i think

Somewhere between that anyway

[forest kite]

11800 yes

[fresh estuary]

As resto/arms where do we position ourselves against mage/rogue? In thy open or next to pillar?

[forest kite]

at least for the 2H

[pallid fox]

guys what stat does feral go for after versa in pvp?

[clear pulsar]

Bold is the conquest cost ofc

Mastery

[pallid fox]

ty, so crit is good for pve but horrible for pvp?

[junior plover]

It's worse than mastery

[tardy hare]

Not horrible

[clear pulsar]

Crit's fine

Stats multiply off of one another anyway

So for instance when you have 400 mastery from Niya proc

[empty badge]

@clear pulsar thank you!! And that is honor or conquest after the initial purchase?

[clear pulsar]

The value of crit raises a bit relative to mastery compared to if you had less mastery

So to speak

Bold is 200 ilvl i.e. conquest cost, the rest is honor costs

@empty badge

[empty badge]

Thank you!!

[clear pulsar]

Upgrades all cost honor

[tulip falcon]

11,000 conquest for 233 ilvl wep

see ya guys next year

[clear pulsar]

Cheers bud always nice when my obsession with putting everything in spreadsheets helps answer someone's question

[pallid fox]

you upgrade with honor

[tulip falcon]

it was a joke

[pallid fox]

ooh whoosh

[stray sigil]

[crude minnow]

Also crit value is higher if you use dreambinder vs boat

[wheat geyser]

So feral + resto druid is shite ?^^

Or just vs warrior

[primal bane]

resto druid=bad

[split bluff]

playing healing specs that use mana is pretty outdated anyway

[wheat geyser]

Okay ^^

Ill tell my friend to play his pally then

[sly vector]

Man i cant decide should I go Kyrian or Nightfae for my alt Balance druid ;/

[split bluff]

convoke will see another nerf pass when mastery stackers pick up first strike in 2 resets

so probably go kyrian if you like to play long game

[primal bane]

i fucking hate this map so fucking much its unreal

[wheat geyser]

Why horde won right

[rich geode]

Dont think Nightfae convoke will get nerfed. Its too easy to counter. The nerfs right now are strong already. However I think you should pick Kyrian anyway for more consistent gameplay.

[tardy hare]

Kotmogu is poggers

[rich geode]

Very good name Machtige Leider

[tardy hare]

[tiny oar]

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/grilla-yes-hell-thumbs-up-grills-gif-10889686

[empty badge]

For a non pvp’er you guys suggest rbg or arena?

[late stirrup]

Rbg

[tulip falcon]

if all you want is to gain rating easier then go for RBG

[empty badge]

Awesome thank you!!

[tulip falcon]

plenty of decent PvE guilds who've never touched rbg before hitting 2400 atm

[empty badge]

Oh that makes me feel good

[crude minnow]

in rbgs if you learn to cyclone, root/beam, dot for AP, and starsurge kill targets, you can get 2100 ezpz

[empty badge]

Oh so I need to go boomie

[crude minnow]

not necessarily, but if you want a path of low resistance

[junior plover]

You might struggle to find a group as feral

[empty badge]

I’m bear

[tardy hare]

Guardian however

[unkempt totem]

cant find anyone that streams boomie 3v3 consistently

[tardy hare]

Is easy party

[junior plover]

But honestly you could play with 1 hand to 2100 rgb

Probably with your screen off too

[tardy hare]

Guardian will get you into groups eeaaaasily

[tulip falcon]

i play with one hand while base deffing 😉

[empty badge]

Haha nice!!! Thank you guys such helpful info

[tardy hare]

I base defend with voice commands

[crude minnow]

Bear requires more specific knowledge to be decent imo. It isn't hard, just the knowledge of what to do isnt necessarily obvious

[tardy hare]

:^)

[tulip falcon]

alexa press incarn

press thrash

brb

[tardy hare]

Alexa, thrash untill i tell you to stop

[crude minnow]

First time I fced people were like "lol just stay alive what do you mean" idk its easy af now, but it aint obvious

[tardy hare]

Make sure to have the incarn legendary

And it's hella free

[tulip falcon]

i mean on fc maps it literally comes down to your team whether you die or not

its a dps race

[tardy hare]

Only thing you can fuck up is leaving the team

[tulip falcon]

ye

you kite

[crude minnow]

getting the flag and not dying to a rogue is somehow hard for some people

[tulip falcon]

gradually go through all cds

and hope their fc dies before you do

oh

getting across is the easy part

[tardy hare]

Wtf guardians do you play with

[empty badge]

I haven’t died to a rogue

[tardy hare]

Any ooker dooker grabs flag, presses incarn and all other cds for some reason

And runs

[tulip falcon]

idk tbh like 85% of guardian players are peabrains who want to play rbgs but don't get invited as anything else because they can't play it

[crude minnow]

Idk I tried to find a guardian for my warrior alt rbgs and was having a time finding a good one

couldnt spin azerite points even

[tulip falcon]

in theory it should be easy to play guardian but most people who play it are legit awful

[tardy hare]

Guardians on my enemy team use ALL their defensive cds without people on them when grabbing the flag

Its very big brain

[tulip falcon]

good players dont really want to play guardian

lol

[tardy hare]

Truth^

[tulip falcon]

only thing i do is incarn if i know they have rogue in d so i dont have to have any help getting across

[tardy hare]

Very true

Aye

Rogue in stealth while grabbing flag = incarn

Else just keep it for when u run into their whole team

[empty badge]

Gotcha

[tulip falcon]

thing i hate is how priest cant life grip with incarn

[crude minnow]

stay away from rets and shit

[tardy hare]

Aaaaah so that's why hahaha

[tulip falcon]

ye

i assume its a bug

[neon eagle]

What cov for RBGs for Guardian?

[tardy hare]

Probably

[neon eagle]

I’m guessing Night Fae

[crude minnow]

whatever civ

cov*

[neon eagle]

O

[tardy hare]

Whatever you play usually really

[tulip falcon]

cov really doesnt matter much for it

[junior plover]

It says crowd control effects not harmful effects

So doesn't seem to be a bug

[tardy hare]

Perhaps perhaps

[tulip falcon]

who knows

[neon eagle]

I might to Venthyr

[tulip falcon]

we still forget about it sometimes

[neon eagle]

Cause I think they’re cool as fuck

[crude minnow]

"immunity to effects that cause loss of control of your character"

[tulip falcon]

i was kiting to horde gy on wsg yesterday, got lock to put a port up and our priest went up

gripped me

jk i had incarn still

[tardy hare]

F

Tomorrow should be 2.4 for me

Finally log alt druid

Go again

[tulip falcon]

i played for like

[crude minnow]

Nice. I wanna go for 2.4 soon. at like 2.3 mmr

[tulip falcon]

7 hours yesterday

started on 2545

ended on 2570

the pain is real

[tardy hare]

F

Am 2377

So 2 wins

Mmr should be 2.6

[tulip falcon]

we had giga melee and lost every kotmogu

[tardy hare]

-0 on loss

[empty badge]

So if I have half a brain I can go guardian in rbg, if not go boomie

[tardy hare]

Pog

[tulip falcon]

i mean boomie isnt hard to play either but

[tardy hare]

Quarter brain plenty for both

Maybe half brain if you need to stuff both in

[empty badge]

Hahaha

[tardy hare]

:^)

[crude minnow]

I try leading rbgs with my friends and get like no help with leading and do worse than I would if I just lfg'd as TC

[tardy hare]

I hate leading bgs

And target calling

Fml

I just talk shit all game while doing some cat stuff

[crude minnow]

"2 peel off to help x" and they dont fucking do it without me saying names of them. like bitch we talked about who the 2-3 prio people were for peeling off

[tulip falcon]

https://xunamate.com/#/character/eu/stormscale/krassz

the last 5 pages are not pog

of match history

hardstuck is real

[tardy hare]

https://xunamate.com/#/character/eu/alonsus/shingeki

My history only pog

[tulip falcon]

well thats not bad you haven't played that many

this is sad

[tardy hare]

I don't plan to play that many either

[tulip falcon]

lmao

[tardy hare]

B i g F

Moment i hit 2.4 on this char

Im logging alt feral

So that gets gear

Or atleast

Upgrades

Want to keep alt ferals arena rating in the gutter

[tulip falcon]

i just want to get to like

[tardy hare]

Style on kids with some homies

[tulip falcon]

2.7 or 2.8

[tardy hare]

But want big gear

[tulip falcon]

then play my alt for boosting

[tardy hare]

Aah ye

Idk my group won't get HotA

So no point going more than 2.4

[tulip falcon]

wonder if it will be as inflated next season

[tardy hare]

Ayeee

This season is hella wonky

Great season to get achieves in tho

Hehe

[tulip falcon]

for sure

[tardy hare]

I like RBGs to some extent

Just hate literally 90% of the players who do it

Xd

They're all so fucking weird

[tulip falcon]

a lot of the "top" players are freaks

[tardy hare]

Ye

Its ridiculous

[tulip falcon]

the whole avi stuff etc

yea hard pass

[tardy hare]

Realpalla

X d

[tulip falcon]

i remember when realpala did nothing but dodge and queue at 4am

[tardy hare]

Dobrek also big

Realpala biggest simp in the game

[tulip falcon]

lmao

[tardy hare]

Ops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9O0c83fhpY

[tulip falcon]

the russian meackos

[north mist]

is convoke still going to be good in pvp or do i need to switch to kyrian

[tulip falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUA0ei60Eqw&t

hes more of a meme

than realpala

[tardy hare]

Ahaha i remember tukaramm

He was on my server in cata

[tulip falcon]

we have him in our guild now for the meme

[tardy hare]

Rofl

[tulip falcon]

oh shit i had something

old

[junior plover]

My character doesnt load on xunamate

Do I need an addon

or smth

[tardy hare]

U need rating

[tulip falcon]

https://youtu.be/V8lh-ngWvdY?t=160

[junior plover]

[tulip falcon]

i love this vid

[tardy hare]

[junior plover]

Ah I see @tulip falcon is tracked for RBG

not for real pvp

[tardy hare]

Truth

[junior plover]

[tulip falcon]

ye it doesnt show my measley 3s

[junior plover]

I thought my 2100 would be enough to show but I guess I need to be on leaderboards?

[tardy hare]

Hmm should be plenty? I think

Idk

[tulip falcon]

real pvp needs real rating

[tardy hare]

Is a bit wonky

[junior plover]

Leaderboards are like 30 rating away from my cr

so i'm assuming that's the case

[tardy hare]

Could be ye

[junior plover]

wtf is this mmr

+37 at 3k

kek

[tulip falcon]

thats for each queue session

[junior plover]

Oh

[merry totem]

Verdant infusion for resto PvP? And what slot?

[tulip falcon]

idk how it works its weird like that

[junior plover]

ye that makes sense

https://xunamate.com/#/character/eu/ravencrest/synergistic

this guy

from struggling to get glad

to #1 feral in 2 weeks

big balls

[tulip falcon]

yea u see it says won 4 lost 0

+37

[junior plover]

yep

[tulip falcon]

for those games overall

[tardy hare]

Yeah it does per session

[eager mason]

I guys, I'm a feral. Should I make versa my main stat while doing PVP?

[obtuse ice]

Yes

with mastery

[fathom oxide]

how is rdudu + spriest in 2s?

[tulip falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSgYxXH1KQo

ffs this in my recommended now

[eager mason]

ty

[junior plover]

it's alright but if youre looking for a caster i'd definitely go mage

[fathom oxide]

he is a friend of my

btw, good addon to so my teamates relevant abilities?

[clear pulsar]

OmniCD

Tracks teammates cooldowns next to the party frame

[fathom oxide]

ok, i dont want to much, only the really relevant stuff

ill check it oud

out

[clear pulsar]

You can remove or add any spell yo uwant to track

[fathom oxide]

aight

[clever socket]

Are there any other viable options for Rdruid outside of Necrolord?

[lime light]

oh no

i can feel the aids

anus kenkur

from assas again

[nimble island]

is it possible to ninja cap as balance alone ? or you need a partner/kill the defender

[tulip falcon]

depends whats defending and how dumb they are

its possible

[dusty sphinx]

Cyclone lasts 6 seconds. You're not sneaking anything unless the defender is an idiot :P

[nimble island]

yeah i meant besides facing a noob/idiot

[tulip falcon]

if they stand on the flag you can incap roar clone cap

[nimble island]

rip then

[tulip falcon]

force trinket

go back within 2 mins if they dont double defend

depending on whats defending

[lime light]

technicly u can root beam some classes and cap

lmao

[tulip falcon]

ye it just really depends what they have deffing

they might chance it on lower mmr groups and not double def even when you force their shit

then you just get it next time

hell i've had a boomkin in my team ninja cap a guardian druid by hibernating him so ye

[nimble island]

i usually just convoke their ass and cap tbh

but was wondering fi there was another way

[tulip falcon]

in one go not likely

but you have enough to force cds/trinket

but as i said if you do that just back off and wait for DRs then go again if they don't double def or swap defenders

[nimble island]

got it, ty for the info :D

[tulip falcon]

or you can just like

force trinket trying to ninja then blow them up

works too

[tepid spoke]

Pretty sure your clone is just enough to cap

If you click the flag at the same time clone lands

[tulip falcon]

it is provided you start capping immediately

so you will force trinket or cds on non-pet classes

[tepid spoke]

Oh talking about that been willing to ask

Does hunter trinket remove pet cc too

[tulip falcon]

they have a separate ability to break pet cc

[hoary ledge]

what conduits should i run for dancing

longer incarn?

[clear pulsar]

Wait dipi made top 8 @vestal citrus

Warr boom pala they're playing

[tardy hare]

You can clone cap anyone that stays within 20 yards of the flag

[clear pulsar]

Does this mean unitas will actually win a series for the first time in 3 years?

WELP

Guess not

[tulip falcon]

well it implies they dont interrupt you with range or a gap closer

or have some ranged cc

but if they're afk then yea in theory

[clear pulsar]

Just a reminder, arms warrior is getting a damage buff next reset

I repeat

[tulip falcon]

which happens sometimes lmao

[tardy hare]

Yeah then u just cap again?

[native ingot]

Do you guys prefer the badge of ferocity or the insignia of alacrity for pvp?

[clear pulsar]

Arms warrior, the one we just watched delete aiden in 3 globals

[lime light]

arms is fine

nerf feral

[tardy hare]

If u clone and click flag you get it

They have to trinket

[native ingot]

for balance

[pallid coral]

i mean that buff is almost certainly going to be nullified in pvp

[tardy hare]

Force teinket with bash convoke

[clear pulsar]

Incap roar into clone!?

[tardy hare]

[pallid coral]

just like the last buff

that arms got

[lime light]

i do agree

[pallid coral]

?

[lime light]

they gonna make it only

pure pve

100%

[tulip falcon]

ye i mentioned that earlier, incap is only 10 yards

[clear pulsar]

Pls dont talking @pallid coral

[tardy hare]

Yeah root into clone

They cant stop u forever

[clear pulsar]

What are you a warrior apologist?

[tardy hare]

Unless they stay max range

[clear pulsar]

You can walk yes?

Like

Press W

[tardy hare]

But in that case

Just kill

[pallid coral]

god no fuck warriors

[tardy hare]

Pog

[tulip falcon]

you dont have time to cap in clone if you move from flag

[clear pulsar]

You have a full global to move

[junior plover]

Quick reminder

[pallid coral]

but they're not actually getting buffed

[junior plover]

Assa rogue has a better winrate than arms warr at this AWC

[pallid coral]

so i'd rather complain about the fact that arriors are liek they are

[junior plover]

nerf assa rogue

[pallid coral]

than that they're getting buffed

when they're not getting buffed

you get me?

[clear pulsar]

If cap range is same as melee, 5yd, you have the incap roar GCD to move to flag before you start casting clone

Soulshape

Etc

[tardy hare]

If they're more than 20yards away from flag u have to kill em

Or

[earnest turret]

what conduits we meant to go for as NF boomkins, defensive and offensive

[tardy hare]

Bait em into 20yd range

They hella cooked anyway

Its free as fuck

[tulip falcon]

ye most people wont be in that range just chillin

unless its like

a guardian druid

[clear pulsar]

Also the question was from a boomie

Boomie incap roar is 15yd

[tardy hare]

Mostly its stealthers

[clear pulsar]

Clone is 25yd

[tardy hare]

U walk up to flag

They come out of stealth

U can now do the clone cap

++

They always come close for some reason

[tulip falcon]

if its just boomie you just make range and hit occassionally with a ranged ability

[tardy hare]

Its hella dum

If its a boomy

Im convoke killing him

Np

[tulip falcon]

like i always just line around shit and moonfire peek if its just boomie

they cant really do anything

[tardy hare]

People are hella cooked in rbgs

Theres only like 4 people that can defend

[tulip falcon]

i cant think of a base where you cant line + ranged interrupt the flag cap

[tardy hare]

There's always atleast 1 cooked monkey defender

[tardy hare]

Youre thinking way too big brain man

Smh

[tulip falcon]

lol

[tardy hare]

Rbg players dont think like that

Below 2.6

[tulip falcon]

only base i find a bitch to defend is mage/belf tower in eots

actual shit design

[tardy hare]

I hate defing mage tower

Need to look at base too much

Cant spectate mid fight

[tulip falcon]

yep

mage is especially worse

since they can cap the sides

but ye like

cloning anyone far away on 90% of bases wont work

against people who arent peabrains

[tardy hare]

if they are standing far away

just have a 2nd walk with you

and the base is yours aswell

++

[pallid coral]

mage tower is dog to defend

i hate it so much

[tulip falcon]

i feel like a potato because of how you have to angle camera

cant see anything else

real way u ninja

is with sleeper incarn

[tardy hare]

[tulip falcon]

legit

incarn cap a base and have a rogue with you

they have to open to stop cap

then you cc

ez cap

[tardy hare]

dude our prot pala walked to mines

started capping base on horse

enemy rogue tried to step sap him

got knocked in the air

didnt stop him anymore for some reason

[tulip falcon]

lmao

[tardy hare]

🐒

[tulip falcon]

i have a funny incarn ninja clip somewhere

against avidance

[jade coyote]

hey a friend of mine is playing boomie and we want to try some 2s what is the best dps to pair with boomie rn? thinking bout sub rouge or hunter

[junior plover]

spriest

by far

[tulip falcon]

https://youtu.be/nbC3mQDZRwg

he tried to incap roar me when i had like 2 sec of incarn left

[tardy hare]

[tulip falcon]

2.8 player btw

[pallid coral]

Imagine not just pressing any damage button there

high tier dog

[tulip falcon]

he pressed

frenzied regen

for some reason

lol

general talents

you might swap out the pvp talents or go balance affinity on twin peaks for flap

toughness/demo are always wanted for pvp talents then raging frenzy can change out

usually for den mother or entangling

[vital parcel]

even chanimal went kyrian now 😦

[clear pulsar]

Bro mes is fucking full uptime lmao

Literally unkiteable

[crude minnow]

Tbh the less people that are NF as balance the less chance balance has a chance to get nerfed as a base spec.

[clear pulsar]

Heartstop aura is such a ridiculous talent tbh

[royal tangle]

is it better to buy 2h or 1h+oh for bal from pvp vendor?

[clear pulsar]

The one with better stats

[civic badge]

1h have mastery

[royal tangle]

yeah 1h has mastery

but 2h gives more int

so not sure what is better

[civic badge]

[clear pulsar]

2h only gives 3 more int at 233 ilvl

It's literally 0.1%, less than that at lower ilvl

If you want mastery get mastery

If you want haste get haste

[civic badge]

mastery stack is op for boom

[royal tangle]

1h it is

[civic badge]

just saw a pic of a 25k starsurge crit vs 30% vers on wowpvp today

[marble charm]

Am I right in the assumption that pretty much all pvp guides are currently outdated? I read a lot of "shadowlands is around the corner so.."
It feels like the guides on pvp overall see A LOT less love than the pve ones. The barrier of entry for a total noob like me is massive. I just want to know wether I should buy the pvp trinkets first with my conquest points =\

[high swan]

Should prioritize biggest int/agi pieces first with conquest or wep,

[marble charm]

I'm 215 from m+ and i SUCK at pvp. So I don't really get upgrades for conquest now

[clear pulsar]

What guide told you that trinket should be your first conq purchase?

[junior plover]

If you're a PVE frog

then maybe

[clear pulsar]

Just buy upgrades idk bro
If you have decent amount of vers, the trinket 2-piece bonus is very strong

And you should have decent amount of vers, naturally

[marble charm]

none, but I always thought they were the holy grail of pvpers :<

[junior plover]

You should definitely have the honor trinkets

[clear pulsar]

Then what does that have to do with guides being outdated

LOL

[junior plover]

as per whether you need the conquest ones

[clear pulsar]

You absolutely need cc break trinket

[junior plover]

it depends

[clear pulsar]

But there is no point in dumping conquest on it

Just use the honor one

[junior plover]

I'd rather spend conquest on actual gear with stam and vers on them

[marble charm]

okay thanks a lot 🙂

both of you

[clear pulsar]

It's hard to tell you what to buy tho like who knows what your gear looks like

But if you have like 15% vers, which isn't a lot considering pvp gear, the set bonus is more than 5% bonus dmg passively

You feel me?

Just depends on your gear

[marble charm]

yeah

[clear pulsar]

Weapon ilvl is very important for melee specs

And for int, weapon is still easily the biggest slot

As far as stat budget

The item prices are based on stat budget so

[hoary ledge]

Best healer for dancing with the stars?

[clear pulsar]

The higher cost ones are bigger slots ofc

[marble charm]

I'm on a 220 weapon with just my random tank gear :<

[clear pulsar]

Do you have the full conquest cap available?

[hoary ledge]

Priest seems crazy for dark arch

[clear pulsar]

Like have you spent any conq at all so far?

[marble charm]

nah, just started, sitting on around 1.2k points with zero rating

[clear pulsar]

Hm

Assuming you're feral then ye?

[marble charm]

really right now I'm trying to learn how to do damage to players as I never played cat 😄 But I feel like guide only show pve rotation and pvp needs to be learned from streamers/youtubers explaining things...

[clear pulsar]

Just buy slots with vers mastery in order of replacing your lowest ilvl pieces

If you cant get ilvl upgrades on armor

Get jewelry imo

Vers mastery neck and ring

[marble charm]

that's one of my main problems. My lowest pieces are 207/213 and I'm not sure if I ever want to replace them with 200 vers/mast items

[clear pulsar]

You dont have to spend the conq right away then

Just play and get rating until you can get upgrades from it then reassess

Buy trinkets tho

I'd buy conq badge and honor medallion

But emblem is pretty good too

[marble charm]

ok, so throw myself into enemies until I learned some basics of killing people 😄

[clear pulsar]

The idea of arena in general is about coordinating crowd control on all enemies and bursting, trading your defensives cd when enemy is using their offensive cds

You wanna be efficient ofc and tight on those windows

If you stun enemy you need to do dam

There are a bunch of streamers linked in pins

[marble charm]

my target is rbg to be honest, is arena still worthwhile to learn? as queue-times are way faster

[vital parcel]

depends on what u like to do

[clear pulsar]

[vital parcel]

in my opinion arena is more fun but harder

[clear pulsar]

Krassz pls assist the boy

[tulip falcon]

lmao

[vital parcel]

if cloud 9 loses

do we get a convoke buff

[tulip falcon]

well tbh if you're like super new to PvP i wouldn't even bother jumping into rated immediately - depending on your overall game/class knowledge etc

[sudden plover]

They'll just remove surges instead 😛

[tulip falcon]

When I first started PvPing I built up a lot of my class knowledge from dueling

which you'll always need whether it's RBG or arena

if you don't know how different specs work then you won't know what to do

plus you have skirms/bgs to get the "feel" for the extreme basics

jumping straight into rated can deter people easily

[junior plover]

While that's a good sentiment, I personally learned pretty much all from jumping into rated

I had some generic pve knowledge before

of what classes do there

but close to none about their pvp tools unless i mained them at some point

[tulip falcon]

it depends on the individual

[junior plover]

Yep

[tulip falcon]

jumping straight into rated if you're just getting instakilled isn't teaching you anything

[junior plover]

Yeah definitely

[tulip falcon]

it needs to be incremental

jumping straight into the deep end isnt always a good idea

[vital parcel]

lmao

chanimal got one good convoke

[tulip falcon]

it's what I always suggested to people when they've just started playing anyway

[crude minnow]

when you start arena, I'd prob recommend getting 2 other people with similar goals and just learn with em.

[vital parcel]

chat flips out

[tulip falcon]

if I just resub after a long ass fucking time

I always go to duro and just start dueling people to see what they do

and what changed with individual specs

[haughty nova]

How much is the pelagos buff in pvp? 175 for 20s?

[clear pulsar]

Yes

[haughty compass]

Convoke is mike Tyson
Kyrian is May weather

May not be quite as consistent, but it can knock you out

[sharp sonnet]

For a beginner hoping to work on getting up in arenas is it best to go for 3v3 or 2v2?

As a feral

[vital parcel]

lmao

[tulip falcon]

pretty accurate analogy

[crude minnow]

people still bitching about convoke in chat after combust just got the kill lolol

[haughty nova]

Thanks @clear pulsar

[vital parcel]

bunch of mage players 😦

[crude minnow]

kinda want some fat convokes so it can get nerfed to the ground so I can just go kyrian with no regrets

also im not fast enough to stop convokes on my warrior lol

[stray sigil]

is tourney post convoke nerfs

or pre nerfs

[vital parcel]

post

but pre the frost dk buff

[stray sigil]

good

chances for more convoke nerfs

poggers

[vital parcel]

noo

i wouldnt mind going kyrian

if convoke wasnt bis for pve

[clear pulsar]

Mood

[stray sigil]

fuck pve

why even pve

u dont get gear from pve

[vital parcel]

im an old time pve'er

but play pvp like 90% of the time now

but still feels bad whenever i play pve

[marble charm]

thanks for the input @tulip falcon and the other boys. I'll queue a ton of randos and go duel for experience 🙂

I'm aware that pvp has quite a high skill ceiling

But there seems to be no "easy way in"

last time I pvp'd at all was TBC :<

[stray sigil]

damp9 is back

pog

[tulip falcon]

just remember duels are far from balanced but its a good way to learn what specific specs do

[glacial fable]

what do pvp boomie use legendary

[blissful belfry]

dreambinder for 1 min go, boat for 3 min convoke cheese

[glacial fable]

hmm

30 30 40

i c

[tardy hare]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/l8g11p/i_love_getting_convoked/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[tulip falcon]

tf

what am i even reading

[tardy hare]

Art

[vital parcel]

hahaha

[prisma flame]

Convoke doesn't target pod?

[vital parcel]

think it does

i have vague memory of oneshotting through a seed with convoke

[sudden plover]

It does

[marble charm]

so far my favorite thing to do is watching hunters die who bleed out after they killed me 😦

[tardy hare]

It does ye

[junior plover]

Ive had that happen

back when it's nameplate was bugged

I killed someone, pressed convoke, did 0 damage to it

[clear pulsar]

Well it needs to be put in combat

By someone

If you're close it'll use thrash and trigger combat ofc

But otherwise

Someone else would need to

[junior plover]

Oh yeah that might've been it

makes sense

but seems like if it's put in combat mid convoke it won't start targeting it

which is weird

[wise valley]

@tardy hare good link much enjoyed

[tardy hare]

[junior plover]

Does anyone know if anyone played feral at AWC 2 yet?

[tardy hare]

You're alive

[wise valley]

Looks like sunshines back on the menu

Boys

Downloading wow rn

[clear pulsar]

Nope, only feral that made top 8 is ilovelucy but he played only ww

Big multiclasser

Don't need to touch feral spec

[junior plover]

Feels bad

[clear pulsar]

Need them feral buffs tbh

[junior plover]

Hunter buffs needed tbh

and jungle will slap

hunter is laughably weak

[clear pulsar]

Nah fuck that noise

Just need to git gudder

[junior plover]

Hmm'

I mean I'd rather play FMP than jungle so gimme feral buffs

but thats not gonna happen

hunter buffs might actually happen

[tardy hare]

I just need feral buffs

I hate everyone else

[junior plover]

True

[wise valley]

Sad day to see feral weak

We wuz kangs

[junior plover]

Sad day to see affl played more than feral

They were supposed to be shitters

Assasination rogue with more presence than feral

[obtuse ice]

@stray sigil Hi

[sand panther]

What CC will convoke ignore? If I mass entalge someone will convoke still hit them?

[wise valley]

Aff locks slappin🤔🤔🤔

[junior plover]

Actually yeah is there a list of ignored cc

i thought it was all breakable cc

but it works on fear

guaranteed breakable cc maybe?

Mass Entangle is just roots so it will be ignored

I'm still not sure if Cyclone is ignored since we went back and forth a bit

[wise valley]

@tardy hare I kicked the social media and have been living a most blessed life

Except I have xovid rn

I'm a more humble person, more in touch with my inner feelings

[tardy hare]

Wtfrick

R u dying?!

[junior plover]

Dreamgrove Discord is social media

[wise valley]

What the fuck

Nah should be aight in a couple days just on a myriad of meds and what not

10 days off work paid though 😎

Nice green name G

[tardy hare]

I miss ur snapchats :(

[junior plover]

10 days for covid kek

I had a low fever and got 4 days off this week

sometimes love my country

[stray sigil]

@obtuse ice wassap brother

[wise valley]

@vestal citrus bruh what are u flicking fr?

Lingering dots?

[obtuse ice]

Hi braedon

[wise valley]

Covid huge burst

AND FATAL DOTS

[obtuse ice]

How is it going ? slapping asses with BT ?

[stray sigil]

big bites

massive

[obtuse ice]

ncice

[wise valley]

Hello remi

U spelled my name right bro thats real love

[obtuse ice]

I really took time to write it correctly

[wise valley]

How r u bro

How the tinder game

[obtuse ice]

Doing ok, wbu

tinder is so corrupted I uninstalled

[wise valley]

I'm just a simple man making my way through the galaxy

[obtuse ice]

I have no doubt about this

will try thx

[wise valley]

Hinge and bumbke are whack

[tough inlet]

Can I find the upgrade price for conquest gear somewhere?

[clear pulsar]

Weapon 226 to 233 is 11800

[real kite]

having trouble surviving vs rogue/mage as boomy/hpal

we're both pretty new to pvp fwiw

[forest moss]

I really need to get that 233 wep

[real kite]

any advice?

[last jackal]

how much crit do you boomkins got in pvp gear?

Guess i wont replace my crit/vers ring for now

[vital parcel]

do u really need crit?

I mean its good but I feel like mastery is just superior?

[last jackal]

ye, but i dont want 0% crit either lol

meh, fck it.. 6% aint 0

45 rating after ring replace 😄

[tough inlet]

I mean, 0.1% is enough in theory

if you have a bit of luck

[ruby walrus]

Anyone else ever have the problem of mass entanglement and Beam macro not trapping people fast enough? It could just be my ping tbh

[clear pulsar]

It's the global cd bro

Beam is off global

Root is not

[vital parcel]

man why is dipi playing boat

[violet valley]

What’s your guys favorite feral comp?

For 2s

[karmic kelp]

Disc/feral

[inland thorn]

Are there any guides for best conduits for Balance druid for Night Fae?

[vital parcel]

its in pins

[inland thorn]

Oh, awesome. I'll click pins until I find it, ty!

Found the pinned post! Do you know which one to keep activated?: Wild Hunt, Pod Tender, Grove something?

[vital parcel]

think u go niya for damage

and dreambinder if ur scared of damage

idk about korayn

[inland thorn]

Okay, ty! ❤️

[clear pulsar]

@tardy hare you got some fans???

[gloomy token]

What the fuck is that

[queen copper]

Not a ping issue. Press them faster. Beam off gcd so only reason is if you cast a dot or something Insta first then beamed and are still gcd locked

[forest kite]

Ima Kyrian balance. Anyone have any experience with timeworn vs boat as kyrian in PvP? What seems better? Or is the gap between them even substantial?

[vital parcel]

i think its more safe with timeworn

[oak canyon]

do i train hpal on balance/hpal in 2's

[vital parcel]

like if u get stunned or something while eclipse u lose ur bonus

[oak canyon]

as feral

[rigid linden]

hmmm

[stray sigil]

formy

[rigid linden]

what should i replace

whatsup bro

[stray sigil]

why do u like circada

help me understand

[rigid linden]

circada?

the insect

or w.e

[stray sigil]

the hunter dude

[edgy shale]

lol wtf why would he be asking u about a random bug

[rigid linden]

uhh

[edgy shale]

yo, formy do u like crickets?

[rigid linden]

i know OF him

i dont like or not like him

[stray sigil]

ok now u must not like him

for the boys

[rigid linden]

o ok

we hate circade?

[stray sigil]

yes

[edgy shale]

wat he do?

[rigid linden]

ok

[stray sigil]

he is a psychopath

[rigid linden]

i am a brain insect

of the hivemind

[stray sigil]

we do not like him

[rigid linden]

FERAL HIVEMIND

[stray sigil]

yes

good

have u tried

bt curio yet

[edgy shale]

ok, fuck it i hate him now. guess i dont need to know why

[forest kite]

That’s a good point thanks!

[stray sigil]

he did say

some gamer stuff

[rigid linden]

can i get a r3 one next week

[stray sigil]

to me and willy

soem very very gamer stuff

[edgy shale]

heated gamer moment?

[rigid linden]

is willy still

troll and survival

if not

[stray sigil]

oh yes mention me he is heated perma

[rigid linden]

hes literally dead

to me

[stray sigil]

yes he is

lol