pvp

[junior plover]

just do a 1cp sr before go

[stray sigil]

gross

[junior plover]

but the energy

kek

[gloomy token]

I keep forgetting yall aren't hard locked li

[stray sigil]

ya u need to play curio not sym

with sr

[junior plover]

yep for sure

[stray sigil]

cuz ud run out of energy

[junior plover]

FF curio SR
BT curio SOTF

both memes

that means

I can be t he FF SR SAVANT

[stray sigil]

bt curio a meme

take it back u fucking idiot

right now

[junior plover]

It's a good meme

tho

[stray sigil]

take it back

[keen harness]

main+offhand or staff pvp weapon?

for boomy 😄

[stray sigil]

@junior plover stop playing ff u noob

play better

play bt

[junior plover]

kek shaman at AWC went NF to soulshape out of root beam

boomkins on suicide watch

eh when I end up swapping to kyrian i'll try bt curio

[gloomy token]

You can soulshape while silenced?

[junior plover]

yes

[gloomy token]

The fuck

[junior plover]

ye

[stray sigil]

none of u are believers

[gloomy token]

If i craft curio after all the shit I've talked about it re smoothbrained pve'ers

I'd get laughed off the discord

[junior plover]

man all that SR talk

1 cp SR with curio

Makes me think

[stray sigil]

u went nf

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

enough thinking for u

[junior plover]

first of

convoke go brr

second of

[stray sigil]

leave the thinking for high iq individuals such as myself

[junior plover]

ive never played a game of pvp in my life until a month ago

[dark solstice]

if it makes you feel better i'll craft oath of elder drood and take the shame for you

[junior plover]

so why would i choose

the meme covenant

[stray sigil]

u could say ur r1 kyrian feral in pve

just like i was r1 venthyr feral world

in pvp

[gloomy token]

1/1

[junior plover]

venthyr feral pvp

[stray sigil]

yes

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

i was r1

[gloomy token]

Now that's a spicy meatball

[junior plover]

out of 3 people?

[stray sigil]

i have the achievment

[dark solstice]

were you the only one tho?

[junior plover]

wait you were

[stray sigil]

i cant say i wasnt

[junior plover]

r1

[dark solstice]

fuck wrong reply

lmao

[junior plover]

like not r1 venthyr feral but r1 as venthyr feral?

[livid wasp]

Arms
All damage abilities increased by 3%.

hahaha

[stray sigil]

well technically i couldnt have been r1 atm in the season

but i was in r1 range at the time yes

[junior plover]

[stray sigil]

dw bout it

just know

i was r1 venthyr feral world

[junior plover]

Look

I'd rather

[gloomy token]

Survbros getting 5%

[junior plover]

take convoke off my bar

[gloomy token]

Jungle cleave making a comeback

[junior plover]

than play venthyr feral pvp

[stray sigil]

willy is jerking off in my whispers as we speak

he is hard

lowkey venthyr feral with curio

could be kinda nutty

[loud wedge]

Why would they buff arms warr

At all

[gloomy token]

You've overdosed on curio

[stray sigil]

curio is bis

[junior plover]

its a pve change

[loud wedge]

Tsg gonna be big

[junior plover]

that will leak into pvp

[loud wedge]

Gonna meet SO many melee cleaves

[junior plover]

remove that line about arms from the patch and it looks like a sweet small pvp patch tbh

but they had to do us dirty

Survival jungle buffed tho

[loud wedge]

I mean, fury is pve specc no?

[junior plover]

Fury is unplayable

Arms has good cleave

so its the pve spec for fights with cleave

but theres no such thing as pve/pvp spec

[loud wedge]

I saw trillebårtom play tsg at 2700 mmr today.. They seriously no brain cleaved all teams

[junior plover]

every spec is a pve spec

[loud wedge]

Frost dk and arms for buffed

[livid wasp]

BM buffed too 🙂

[stray sigil]

bt curio feral requires the highest iq

[loud wedge]

Bm still unplayable

[junior plover]

BM

When is the BT Curio Feral buff coming out tho

[mortal orbit]

Arms is getting a 3% damage buff? Lol they seem to be putting out plenty damage already

[junior plover]

it's kinda weak right now ngl

[stray sigil]

bm buffs

means i get to lvl up my goblin bm hunter

[junior plover]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/26/

Look at this and tell me

arms is putting out plenty damage

[loud wedge]

Buff sub btw

[junior plover]

They literally buffed everything below ret in pve

[stray sigil]

here u go again with ur pve

[junior plover]

I mean if u gonna ask why

im gonna tell you why

this is the reason for every change on that list

that single link

[tardy hare]

anyone else join RBG as FC on your alt

[gloomy token]

They're good at the only fights that matter though

[junior plover]

[tardy hare]

and like

[stray sigil]

buff ferals

NOW

[tardy hare]

forget to pick talents

before the game

[junior plover]

[mortal orbit]

I watched Bajheera 1 shot 3 people with a 95k Shockwave yesterday in a bg. Hence why I say Arms seems to be doing ok

[loud wedge]

Gonna make my hpal main, and only queue tsg

[junior plover]

[loud wedge]

Fuck yall

[junior plover]

So

FF is bugged and doesnt scale off base mastery/wep dps

@stray sigil on suicide watch when its hotfixed

[gloomy token]

It's missing 20% damage

Basically

[junior plover]

damn that a lotta damage

[forest kite]

Is guardian any good in unrated bgs?

[stray sigil]

na i dont miss ff

i only play ff in like jungle mirror

or rogue mage

cuz i would play skin lego

[junior plover]

good at carrying flags

but in unrated you can roll literally anything

[forest kite]

ah cool

thanks

[fleet raptor]

Did someone say they got 2400+ as guardian in arena?

[junior plover]

Doubtful but if they did

they could probably get 2800+ as feral

[stray sigil]

[junior plover]

Guardian must be the worst arena spec in the game

[weak hinge]

why?

sleeper + balance aff + aura mastery + convoke

(:

[junior plover]

in bear form

gl with that bear casting starsurges

[weak hinge]

someone should try that

[junior plover]

but it doesnt work

[weak hinge]

u sure sleeper doesnt work in boomy?

[surreal heron]

it does

[junior plover]

It says

in bear form

wat

[surreal heron]

legacy works out side

[weak hinge]

(:

[junior plover]

wot

[surreal heron]

[junior plover]

Why cant blizzard

make 1

working tooltip

wait

WAIT

so i can run feral legacy?

[vital parcel]

legacy is so broken man

[junior plover]

FERAL LEGACY CONVOKES?

please say sike

[surreal heron]

sure why not

[junior plover]

Theres no way it works

[vital parcel]

u can still get kicked tho

[gloomy token]

Surely fucking not

[junior plover]

Sure I can be kicked but I can sit on healers

[vital parcel]

its just stuns ands stuff tho

[stray sigil]

it says zerk in bear form though

[junior plover]

i wanna try it on ptr but im not gonna buy

[vital parcel]

yeah

[junior plover]

a base for it on live

cmon

[vital parcel]

think u need to be guardian for it

maybe it works with cat zerk

[surreal loom]

Sleeper does not work in other specs

[vital parcel]

omegalul

[surreal loom]

100%

[surreal heron]

https://i.imgur.com/gnSbVDk.png

[junior plover]

[surreal loom]

Bean tested it on stream

[fleet raptor]

Guardian probably works because people will just leave.

[junior plover]

[vital parcel]

rip bean

[surreal heron]

it's in guardian spec, but shifting works

[junior plover]

kek

[surreal loom]

That is possible

but it doesn't work for other specs, maybe other forms AS guardian

seems like stupid coding

[surreal heron]

i guess it was bad phrasing on my part

but the original conversation was about guardian spec

[junior plover]

Yeah

alright

so 100% doesnt work with cat berserk?

[crude minnow]

oh so you can go travel form with sleeper?

[junior plover]

What covenant has Vers Mastery 2h wep?

does any?

[stray sigil]

arent they all haste vers

atleast nf and kyrian is

[fervent gull]

finally world pvp is back on the menu

[junior plover]

U said u were venth pvp r1

how do you not know

HMMMM?

[strong otter]

LOL IMAGINE BUFFING ARMS WARRIORS

Because they just did

[junior plover]

Its a pve change

[void flower]

Best horde race for balance/FCing

[strong otter]

it affects everything

[junior plover]

Yes

not happy about it

but it makes sense they buffed it

too bad they didnt nerf it in pvp

the same patch

[placid mirage]

Frost dk arms buff yummy rbg melee cleaves

[junior plover]

frost dk arms is gonna literally run over everything now

[placid mirage]

They already were

[vital parcel]

can someone link

buffs

[junior plover]

its on top of wowhead

[placid mirage]

Like every game I played at 2.3/2.4 was frost/arms and like ret or smth

[forest kite]

Folks, is feral gaining some traction lately for arena? I see more feral than balance in higher ranks

[vital parcel]

oh no

why did they buff arms

just buff fury

[junior plover]

Feral is probably better than balance in arenas yes

especially 2v2

Jungle is probably better than any Balance 3s comp also

[forest kite]

interesting, thanks !

[vital parcel]

i dont agree

[placid mirage]

Poor boomers

[vital parcel]

I think it depends on the comps

[junior plover]

note: i'm kitty

balance is still alright

[forest kite]

not biased 😄

[junior plover]

but you'd almost always replace a boomie with a mage and have a better comp

and if you already have mage take a spriest/ele

[forest kite]

just completed the quest, just go to the maw

[placid mirage]

Just play ele/aff/hpal kekw

[junior plover]

nothing replaces feral in jungle

[vital parcel]

feel like you can replace feral with monk/rogue

[junior plover]

Yeah you can in fmp

[vital parcel]

ofc if ur running jungle u want feral tho

[junior plover]

monk mage and rogue mage

are literally top tier comps

but jungle?

nah

[vital parcel]

wheres this from?

[fervent gull]

master of conflict

[junior plover]

and whats that?

[fervent gull]

go to the pvp vendor zone in oribos

[vital parcel]

[junior plover]

Did it just pop up?

[fervent gull]

look at the ss

[vital parcel]

bruh

can someone explain

why they buffed frost and arms

[placid mirage]

Pve

[junior plover]

AH

its an ally quest

ofc

[vital parcel]

rip pvp

[fervent gull]

im NA

[placid mirage]

Ya they don't care

[surreal loom]

arms is questionable; frost is actually kinda bad atm

[placid mirage]

Is fdk good in arena rn?

[junior plover]

really good

[surreal loom]

not really

[junior plover]

as a support

[placid mirage]

I mostly see them in rbg

[surreal loom]

yes only as support for windwalker or arms

[junior plover]

wdym not really its played all over the place

[surreal loom]

they fall over

[junior plover]

highest rated team on both NA and EU

has a frost dk

[placid mirage]

Rip

[junior plover]

But im assuming arms will get nerfed post AWC

they pulled through with mages

[edgy shale]

wait why r ppl calling frost bad

[junior plover]

probably 2s frogs

[placid mirage]

Maybe they got confused with frost mages xd

[stray sigil]

dk is unplayable

[placid mirage]

No that's dh

[junior plover]

No that's BT

[stray sigil]

say it one more time

[junior plover]

Man so much caster cleave in awc

ele affl actually a top tier comp

weird stuff

[vital parcel]

It was good vs the enemy comp

not sure about other teams tho

[junior plover]

it was played twice

by 2 diff teams

into diff comps

[vital parcel]

might just fall over to melee?

[junior plover]

oh wait was it different teams

maybe not

no it wasnt nvm

[vital parcel]

lock is becoming better for sure

i wanna see destro

[junior plover]

Destro is okay but

just play ele

kinda like surv

surv is playable sure

but why'd you ever play it over mm

[clear pulsar]

@junior plover idk if it got resolved but Legacy works as guardian in any form, but it does not work for feral Berserk.

Jst saw some messages about it earlier but I aint about to read the rest of the whole convo

[gloomy token]

@clear pulsar you played necro feral pvp for a bit yeah

[junior plover]

Never got a full answer

thanks

[clear pulsar]

Yeah played it for around 30 games on main at beginning of season

And some trashy games on horde alt

[gloomy token]

What talents/ soulbinds

Would i be wrong to try to straight pve some poor sod

[junior plover]

id run the same talents as regular feral pvp

sbt is too good

[gloomy token]

Gross sbt

[clear pulsar]

I think the Marileth shield was really good

[gloomy token]

True

[junior plover]

just replace sbt with li if u want

[clear pulsar]

And idk lunar inspiration felt pretty unimpactful in 2s but maybe now with Draught

[junior plover]

but i wouldnt

[clear pulsar]

It's good

[gloomy token]

Isn't it decent against plate

[junior plover]

are bleeds affected by armor in retail?

[gloomy token]

Bleeds are not

Bite is

[junior plover]

ye makes sense

i mean

technically sure but im pretty sure sbt is still more damage into plate

sbt saves you a lot of cp

[clear pulsar]

Well for patchwerk sims LI is giga for necro cat

[gloomy token]

Would you unironically run draught as necro

[junior plover]

what else

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

[vast vapor]

great that they couldnt fix that earlier

[gloomy token]

For giga fadeaway bleeds

[clear pulsar]

I'd run Draught LI FF, maybe not SR

[stray sigil]

[junior plover]

SR is reserved for

the legendary SR FF curio build

that i'll dominate with next week

[rigid linden]

Already tried it

Good but symm and soft better

[junior plover]

Did you only spend 1cp on SR tho

[rigid linden]

I think symm and FF is better than cat eye

For savage roar

Rake, tf savage roar rip FF bitw

[junior plover]

wont you be energy starved

[gloomy token]

Imagine if they fixed ff

[junior plover]

but yeah I can imagine

kyrian TF symm savage roar

thats a nice go

[clear pulsar]

I think I'd only run LI if I was Draught training one target

[gloomy token]

Technically necro has a go every 45 seconds

[junior plover]

necro never has a go

but u can drain

and then go on the 60% target

[clear pulsar]

Cuz if you're trying to multibleed and shit with Circle, you always miss uptime on either Rake or Moonfire in one target, or both

[junior plover]

multibleed sounds terrible

Ive said it once and i'll say it again

[gloomy token]

Circle 2t cleave is some crackhead shit to play as necro

[junior plover]

i was beat by a necro draught feral once

u bleed fast

[clear pulsar]

Like if you're just training a healer all game then probably draught LI SR FF!?

[junior plover]

U definitely have higher sustained damage than regular kitty

but no goes

[vast vapor]

SR giga for NF?

[gloomy token]

So hard pve them with marileth shield

[clear pulsar]

FF does like 20k damage with necro + badge bro @junior plover

And with circle it's only like 5s duration

So it's a bit more concentrated

[junior plover]

Yeah

[clear pulsar]

If you wanna do that

[gloomy token]

Only 20k

[junior plover]

it slaps

but

[gloomy token]

More like 30k

[junior plover]

hmm

maybe no buts

necro stronk

[clear pulsar]

My necro's like 198 ilvl @gloomy token

[gloomy token]

Its fucking ludicrous

[clear pulsar]

[gloomy token]

Oof

[clear pulsar]

It was hilarious gameplay tho when I was necro on main

[gloomy token]

Sr tf badge ff would be 35k

Unironically

[clear pulsar]

I think if you play some degen shit like feral aff 3s

[gloomy token]

Feral disc or something

[junior plover]

if it actually does this much in arena

[gloomy token]

Mindgames healer on ff cast

[junior plover]

its unironically

broken

so try it

i wanna know

[gloomy token]

I would love to but I'm not home until tomorrow night

And don't have a badge

[clear pulsar]

I'm sooo ready for FF fix I'll swap Necro immediately bro

If it happens

Ofc

They fixed LI Draught so

There's hope

[junior plover]

Oh yeah the FF fix

[gloomy token]

I need to do my torghast to get a higher ilvl draught from the get go

[junior plover]

would probably make necro even in dps

huh

[gloomy token]

Nah

You'd be 150 short

So like 2%

[junior plover]

dayum

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

idk is necro unironically

[clear pulsar]

Wait

[junior plover]

good in 2s

[clear pulsar]

How much do you sim patchwerk?

[vital parcel]

whats the fix for FF?

[junior plover]

wep dps and base mastery

[vital parcel]

am not feral

[junior plover]

doesnt count

[gloomy token]

To the bleed

[junior plover]

yep

[vital parcel]

is that good or bad

im tired

[junior plover]

20% less damage

[gloomy token]

That's

Horrid

[junior plover]

for non necro

on ff

[vital parcel]

ah

[junior plover]

not sure about necro

[clear pulsar]

Mastery's a 16% base + 17.5 points per 1% buff to bleeds

[gloomy token]

Probably 25% for necro feral

[vital parcel]

I see why that would be good for necro

[clear pulsar]

So we have around 30% in current gear for pvp

[junior plover]

Bruh

[junior plover]

But mastery works just base mastery doesnt

[gloomy token]

Like my ffs on target dummy last i hit one were like 30k average

[clear pulsar]

OH

Okay

[junior plover]

Still lol if they fixed that

[clear pulsar]

That's so fried!???

[junior plover]

its actually good in 2s

no kapp

That's like a convoke every 45s

and actually good legendary too

[gloomy token]

You do sick fadeaways

[junior plover]

IM NECRO ENTHUSIAST NOW

need 3rd kitty

and 2nd kitty too

[gloomy token]

Like i did some 2s with a mates 160 ilvl ww alt

With circle and full pve

And we'd reliably trade 100% of the time

And after 45 seconds i would win but that's at low cr

[vast vapor]

gonna change my alt to necro too its decided

[gloomy token]

Lmfao

What have i done

[junior plover]

I mean if youre not wrong that FF is 30k in 6s

I do think it might actually be a sleeper

[gloomy token]

I could be wrong but I've definitely seen big ff

[clear pulsar]

I think mastery works fine for FF bro

[gloomy token]

Base mastery doesn't

You get like 1 point of base mastery and no weapon dps scaling on the bleed

According to feral theory crafters

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ubefUPJF7XoNviH2nuxjrb

28k feral frenzy

[clear pulsar]

That's with lust, shout, ww debuff

[junior plover]

crit?

lust is haste so w/e

[gloomy token]

Wait buffs on

[junior plover]

but ye

[gloomy token]

Mb

[clear pulsar]

Haste affects bleeds

[gloomy token]

Checking again

[clear pulsar]

You moron @junior plover

[junior plover]

Only tick speed?

or dmg

[stray sigil]

speed so dmg

[junior plover]

But idc about speed i care about how much 1 FF does

in 6s

[gloomy token]

17k hmm

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r5wX5NN99AiVXVHQF3mDDe

That seems wrong

[clear pulsar]

FF has same duration always

Haste makes it more dmg

[junior plover]

ah

[clear pulsar]

Over 6 seconds

[gloomy token]

Let me check back in tomorrow night

[junior plover]

YOU BAITED ME

INTO THE NECRO DREAM

[stray sigil]

dont get baited

[clear pulsar]

So I have 28.29% mastery, that's 16% base + 12.29%
With Bell, it goes to 16 + 48.29%
If base mastery didn't count, it would go up by 148.29 / 112.29 = 32.05%
But instead it goes up by 164.29 / 128.29 = 28.06% correctly
Ticks for 2022 without Bell, 2590 with Bell.

[stray sigil]

its dogshit

[clear pulsar]

@gloomy token

It's counting base mastery broski

[stray sigil]

bt curio is not dogshit

[chrome panther]

oh my god

are you baiting about bell vs on-use again

pls stop

[junior plover]

too many viable feral builds

[stray sigil]

only 1 true bis though

[chrome panther]

true bis is activating balance spec

[stray sigil]

get out of my server

[junior plover]

lets look at the viable feral builds:

symmetry
curio sr kyrian
necro kitty

crazy

[stray sigil]

wait a second

[junior plover]

wish there was some option on the last talent row tho

[stray sigil]

i dont see curio bt in there

[junior plover]

[gloomy token]

Viable = won a game at 1900

[junior plover]

thats top 9%

[gloomy token]

:^)

[junior plover]

since r1 is 0.5% that makes necro feral viable at rank 18

[stray sigil]

true curio only good for high iq individuals

myb

forgot you guys are rodents

[zinc grail]

guys, i want an addon which allows me to adjust my target's important buff and debuffs and allows me to see its duration

for example i wanna make paladin bubble, warr spell reflect, rogue evasion bigger

do you know any?

[junior plover]

he wants bigdebuffs but multiple at a time

idk what does that

with custom size

[clear pulsar]

FlyPlateBuffs but that is suuuper out of date

You can still add spells yourself

[zinc grail]

out of date how? is it unusable?

[clear pulsar]

And customize sizes for each spell

No, I use it, but it may give you a lua error every now and again

And you have to add new stuff from shadowlands

If you want to track them

[zinc grail]

i see

[clear pulsar]

Stuff like weapons of order, alter time, etc

[zinc grail]

what i want isnt that extraordinary lol, how is there no proper addon there

[rigid linden]

horde ferals at 210 now

think i can finally push

weee

[clear pulsar]

If you dont want custom sizes for spells, then literally any nameplate addon does this

Plater, kuinameplates, threatplates

All decent nameplate addons have buff tracking

FlyPlateBuffs lets you pick custom scaling for each buff or debuff, CC, etc

[zinc grail]

yea i wanna customize some spells' size to my liking

i see

[grand mesa]

Hope someone takes up flyPB and updates it

[strong spear]

I am losing will

[junior plover]

HOLY SHIT DID ANY OF U WATCH LAST GAME OF AWC TODAY LOL

[strong spear]

it feels like the melee specs are not that great in PvP

[clear pulsar]

It feels like you're looking for a COPOUT

[strong otter]

prot pally at 100% mana lmao balanced class.

[clear pulsar]

[junior plover]

Prot Pala comp wins in 70% dampen

after a mage finding a kill in 2v3

in game 5

[strong spear]

😦

[junior plover]

RBG?

[strong spear]

yea

[zinc grail]

i found something called nameplateauras

[junior plover]

Yea

[strong spear]

unrated its w/e goes

[junior plover]

thats just how rbgs go

[zinc grail]

but i also use zperl and it doesnt work atm, not sure if they are incompatible or not

[strong spear]

but if I get gear and such will I at least start feeling useful

I CC (not too much) and stuff

[zinc grail]

@grand mesa

[junior plover]

No clue ive never played a game of rbg in my life

[strong spear]

try to bug healers

[junior plover]

but kitty in arena feels great

[rigid linden]

How much is it to craft a max ivll legendary

[junior plover]

4000+

not sure exactly

[haughty compass]

Prot pally fotm rollers inc

[rigid linden]

hmm maybe ill maybea 225 curio then

[junior plover]

oh ye 5k+

[edgy shale]

yeah its 5150 i think

or something

[junior plover]

^ sounds about right

its low 5k

[rigid linden]

ty ty 😄

so close to 226

[edgy shale]

nice bracers idiot

[rigid linden]

fuck u theyre VERS MASTERY

and SOCKETED

could buy bracers or ring

but waiting for vault

[edgy shale]

[junior plover]

#feral message

wait

wrong link

but that works

https://clips.twitch.tv/TenderSoftPlumagePeteZaroll

[tropic schooner]

👀

[grand mesa]

Is this clip recent?

[junior plover]

15 min ago

bear can still drop moons

[surreal heron]

it was clipped ~20 minutes ago

[junior plover]

apparently

[grand mesa]

Hahahahhahaha

With legacy of sleeper eh

That’s fun

[tropic schooner]

🙂

[junior plover]

[grand mesa]

That’s a crazy full moon. 32k. I don’t recall really ever hitting a number that high in balance

[clear pulsar]

Nah 32k crit is definitely a thing for boomie

Or well, was

[stray sigil]

20k bite

on dk

[clear pulsar]

@tropic schooner damn bud I'm sorry

[stray sigil]

bt curio not good

@junior plover fuku

[clear pulsar]

Does Curio buff your bites? @stray sigil

Big stoopid idiot

[junior plover]

i had 23k on warr

back when i was bt

i take pride in that

but fuck bt

Oh ye but that was in convoke to be fair

[clear pulsar]

Yeah what's the point of boasting about a 23k crit

[junior plover]

with Niya + conflux

[clear pulsar]

When you can just do 10k bite + 10k frenzy + 10k instead

Without even accounting for crits

[junior plover]

I wish i had 10k non crit bites

[vital parcel]

okey so do i just go owlvoke as bear now in arenas

[tropic schooner]

dw about it bud, definitely understandable to be skeptical

[junior plover]

its probably terrible

starsurge 9k

in that convoke

[clear pulsar]

@junior plover math yeah!? 23k crit = 13k noncrit, 13k bt = 10k nonbt

[junior plover]

you just roll people 20% of the time

[clear pulsar]

Very straight forward actually

THe math of it

[junior plover]

Ye but mine was in convoke

[vital parcel]

ngl

I played some guardian today in rbg

was hella fun

gonna try with balance affinity now

[surreal heron]

legacy as FC is bonkers

now imagine full mooning people with it

[vital parcel]

y

[chrome panther]

lol

[vital parcel]

[chrome panther]

just 1shot the rogue that opens on you

[junior plover]

I mean yeah legacy is already FC bis right?

[chrome panther]

the true overlords

[surreal heron]

yeah

[chrome panther]

yes its bis

swap for barkskin leggo when berserk on cd

[junior plover]

might as well go boomie affi

[vital parcel]

It will be fun, until blizzard finds out

[clear pulsar]

Wild

This rly bothers me

you're getting cracked by other specs: BLIZZ WTH WHY NO NERF
blizz nerfs your spec's cracking of other people: BLIZZ IS NO FUN WTF

Yall wild

[placid mirage]

Destro +5% while I'm barely surviving chaos bolt in bear form with celestial guardian

[junior plover]

I mean

yeah

[placid mirage]

That shit already hitting like 20k

[chrome panther]

20k becomes 21k

[clear pulsar]

You have 20k hp in bear form?

[chrome panther]

wyow

[clear pulsar]

Don't let the lock get 3 bolts in a row bud

[placid mirage]

They shoot 2x tho in like 2s

[chrome panther]

much spooky

[clear pulsar]

Nah destro's fine tbh

[chrome panther]

destros fine

NOW

destro/ele

is SPPOOKK

[clear pulsar]

I haaate ele dude

Just

[vital parcel]

destro is actually legit tho

[clear pulsar]

The idea of it

[chrome panther]

ele is

[placid mirage]

I feel like I can't play the game vs ele

[chrome panther]

literally free rating till 2.2k when people learn what stormkeeper is

[clear pulsar]

I hate how much variance exists in the game

[chrome panther]

bruh go play csgo

[clear pulsar]

And ele take it up 3 notches

I do

[chrome panther]

crit casino + mastery procs are the height of wow pvp

[clear pulsar]

Quite a bit

[placid mirage]

Ele seems like it has a button for everything I do

[clear pulsar]

Between crit rng that every spec has, their crits do more damage, there's overload rng, primordial wave cd reset rng.

I dont think they play the refund chance but that when it was relevant

[placid mirage]

Idk what stormkeeper does tbh I just know it's bad for me

[chrome panther]

its fucking hilarious when things line up right

[clear pulsar]

It's not lining up right tho

It's just rng

I mean sure it has cds and a setup of stuff yo uwanna do but

[placid mirage]

It takes skill to rng the line up

[chrome panther]

there are games where my ele just deletes people while im sitting in bear with a warrior and ret ontop of me

[clear pulsar]

It's ridiculous

[chrome panther]

its fun

coming from bfa snoozefest

[clear pulsar]

They need to unnerf sub and mm, nerf crit damage back down instead

[chrome panther]

😴

[clear pulsar]

And nerf offhealing, arms defensive kit

[chrome panther]

when rdruid gets buffed to hell and casters scale up even more

[clear pulsar]

I don't find it fun

[placid mirage]

Ya I watched the enh do almost 700k healing in awc

[chrome panther]

lsd is going to become the new fotm comp i swear

[clear pulsar]

Ele rng

I do like me some CS

Also dota

Dota's absurdity at least goes across the board tho

[pine hawk]

As feral is eye the best leggo to go for right now?

[rich crag]

I love this natural order it's hilarious

[junior plover]

Most people would say symmetry

some people would say cat eye

a lot of people would agree the barkskin leggo is great in 3s

[waxen anchor]

Does your rotation as boomy change based on your RBG comp? I tend to SF more in rot comps, SS more in a more standard comp. This makes sense to me, just wanted to see if it was the case

[rich crag]

it's great in bgs and randoms for feral anyway 🙂

[pine hawk]

Thanks, guess I just need to wait for forges so I can grab symmetry!

[rich crag]

suddenly a rogue opens on you emote spamming he's got 5k more health and chunks you down to 20% you bear bark and start lighting him up with str of the wilds and mauls he turns to run, rooted, rejuv swiftmend oh no back up ouch, back into bear to catch second ironfur / frenzied and now you are back up and get kidneyed but high armor, swap to cat, rogue is panicking now hes dotted up he's lot up, he vanishes with bleeds on him... he's failed morale check he's running... he's dead jim.

[junior plover]

sir this is a wendy's

[unborn notch]

just got 2.1k in rbg boys!!!

[livid heart]

Since there are hardly any mw or rdruids at the top, instead of slowing the meta and nerfing dmg, let's buff some specs. This company. Jeez

[clear pulsar]

Ah yes just what every pvper wants

Slower meta

[livid heart]

When 90% of healers are pallys or priests, ill give ya hint. It's not their heal% is higher, its that those kits are necessary currently for how fast the meta is

[clear pulsar]

I need more coffee

[livid heart]

U need to watch a tourny, stop trolling loser

[surreal heron]

unnecessary

[livid heart]

Whatever, cant teach the blind

[surreal heron]

no one will want to be taught if that's how you treat them

[livid heart]

Lol pepe is the same thing just without words gtfo

[clear pulsar]

Lol bruh why are you escalating this

[unborn notch]

anyone know where you get the 2.1k enchant at?

[livid heart]

Log out and in @unborn notch

[unborn notch]

is it at a vendor once i hit the rating?

[foggy ravine]

ya you get it like next day

idk why

or after you log out like tim said maybe

[strong otter]

Imagine killing a stupid fucking bitch mage just for him to get pod sac'd

[unborn notch]

nice, i got it!

ty!

[foggy ravine]

ult sac pod is tilting lol

[strong otter]

how the FUCK are you gonna leave that dumb bitch shit in the game

[clear pulsar]

You're acting like there's one clear direction they should go, nerf dmg and make game slower, which is just incredibly detached from the feedback from the rest of the community

[strong otter]

press 1 button and your ally gets an entire second fucking life

[clear pulsar]

It's not even funny how far removed from what everyone else wants that stance is

[livid heart]

I think u are detached. Watch a tournament, watch the hpal necessity

Blocking this 1600 idiot

[clear pulsar]

Sry I only talk to high rated (1750+) players

[gloomy token]

Thank fuck i hit 1800 last week so i can talk to my boy

[livid heart]

:)

[clear pulsar]

I meant io score

I mean pvp rating doesnt mean anything pve is harder than pvp anyway

[gloomy token]

Oh sorry I'll just go then :^)

[edgy shale]

1750 arena or rbg?

[gloomy token]

Raider io

[edgy shale]

[junior plover]

People acting like Blizz doesnt know what theyre doing with these buffs really confuses me

pve changes

they make a lot of sense in that context

ofc it sucks for us but thats how it is

[foggy ravine]

Warrior damage buff was most comical

[rich crag]

Why would you come in here and act like a toxic Timtom lol...

[edgy shale]

wat changes am i missing something

[clear pulsar]

My guy gets 2.2k and develops an ego

It's ok bro

We see it happen all the time

Let it be

[livid heart]

If u think blizzard knows what they are doing by putting time and effort into command table and just slapping 5s and 3s on classes, then u are just whiteknighting @junior plover

2.4 @clear pulsar

Imagine thinking a bunch of 5s and 3%s means they "know what they are doing". The actual ppl in here i swear smh

[edgy shale]

no rating gives u a right to be a dick lol

[livid heart]

Sometimes u gotta be a dick to show how stupid someone is. Gotta learn

[surreal heron]

incorrect

[gloomy token]

Imagine thinking blizzard doesn't cater to casuals outside of extreme abuse cases

[clear pulsar]

Didn't you just say I can't be taught

Now you're being a dick to teach!?

Wild

[livid heart]

Not u, we are talking about kiosk now

Sheesh get over urself

Waiting for @junior plover the whiteknight's rebuttal

[clear pulsar]

That's not how you spell that

IDIOT

[livid heart]

?

Anyways waiting on @junior plover

Crickets. Figures. Anyways, I'm out. Enjoy the knowledge. Come see me when u break 1600 @clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

Uhm

Can you not read?

1750+ only

[bright zinc]

I'm making a druid that is going to be exclusively a pvp toon. I wanna play mostly resto but want to do a lil boomkin every now and then. Im noticing that a lot of the top resto druids pvp wise are going necro. I think i understand why they are going necro but am very unsure as to if i should go necro or NF, any insight would be greatly appreciated!

[clear pulsar]

Can't win on that one bro

You can get rating as night fae resto for sure

But like

You definitely feel the impact of adaptive swarm on your healing

Night fae would be more of a 2s thing, playing big aggro, etc

Altho if you pve at all night fae is also better

I think I would go necro just off of the fact that balance is really good rn anyway and resto needs all the help it can get

But yeah necro doesn't do much for boomie

[pallid coral]

Idk why you'd assume these changes are going to impact pvp when the last set of changes were counteracted in pvp

the same way these will probably be counteracted in pvp

[edgy shale]

ya im waiting for pvp changes after AWC

[clear pulsar]

Or they could just nerf rally intervene and frost cd aura

[pallid coral]

tru

rally and intervene is so dumb man

like I wouldn't be annoyed by warriors if a) they couldn't do disgusting damage IN DEF STANCE making themselves immortal b) they didn't also make their whole team immortal as well

like 40% rally ona 1 minute cd

intervene

[clear pulsar]

40 haha

Its 65% hp or something

[vagrant plume]

whats easier to get 1600 in for feral

2s or 3s

[clear pulsar]

Debatable

Easier to get carried by 2 people than 1

Easier to outplay 2 people than 3

2s in NA is big deflated at the top

Idk if that means anything for 1600

Both brackets should be just as fine savens

[vagrant plume]

im having so much trouble

maybe im just bad lol

i know the ins and outs of my class

in 2s i face dudes with 40k hp and im just like wat lol

[bright zinc]

my only pve plans on my druid are my 4 weekly m+ for the 220+ loot, but thats really the extent of my pve plans.

[plain hill]

what leggo for resto pvp

[tiny oar]

I fucking hate warriors so much

Verdant infusion swiftmend extends hots @plain hill

[plain hill]

ty

[tiny oar]

Just the mass reflect intervene on such a short cd is like so toxic to me but yea they pump too

[plain hill]

And what stats does feral want in pvp

Vers/mast?

[obtuse ice]

ye

[tiny oar]

@obtuse ice good morning hope u have a good day 🙂

[obtuse ice]

Hi, hope you're doing well too 😄

[green valve]

Damn

Theyre nerfing trappers

Rip my mission table

Literally unplayable

[plain hill]

Sorry one more question. There are only crit/vers and haste/vers chests on the vendor. Is haste better due to reduced crit?

[obtuse ice]

Depends one what you enjoy, having a little bit of haste is nice but some crit is good too

because free CP still is enjoyable

[plain hill]

Ah true

Ok ty

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar im telling u

bt is the way

the more i play bt curio

the more insane it is

and my gear is poop

[edgy shale]

is it as good w/ NF tho?

[stray sigil]

i did play with it a bit makes ur convoke crazy insane imo

but like with kyrian u have the most fucking dam in the world every minute

i had a game with convoke i think

i triple crit a shaman

with bt proc bites

legit died in like .1s

was like i was playing boomy convoke

[edgy shale]

ya im prob gonna try some BT

[stray sigil]

u can actually compete with warriors with bt no cap

also u see someone at like 60% u pop tf kyrian and 1 bite and they on the ground

never gets old

[tawny plinth]

Forgive me, whats bt?

[stray sigil]

blood talons

[edgy shale]

im gonna run draught BT and tunnel

[tawny plinth]

thanks

[tiny oar]

R u playing SR too

[stray sigil]

hmm idk about bt and no curio

seems a bit sus

[edgy shale]

i dont have curio right now, only 235 apex 235 draught

[stray sigil]

with curio in zerk ur burst is like

similar to the sym zerk

@tiny oar na sr is too troll

[vast vapor]

what makes curio so good tho

[stray sigil]

makes bt a lot more fluid

[vast vapor]

oh like for getting the proc

[stray sigil]

u can have it up perma with bt with energy to spare

curio*

if u dont i feel like ud have to pool a lot more

and like in pvp if u get micro ccd on ur like 3rd ability

and u dont get the proc

its like u "wasted" 60 energy

[vast vapor]

yeah

how much do you use trash as feral

[stray sigil]

prob too much

[true hound]

Hey guys!

What legendary is best for battlegrounds 10v10?

for night fae

[vast vapor]

missing a bit of info there still

[slim crater]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/l877hp/_/glc0a6t?context=1000

Dude has 1.1k mastery holy shit without bell

[vast vapor]

those are nice rings

[edgy shale]

lol he acutally bought 2

and they rnt unique equipped for some reason?

[slim crater]

only 350k

250k*

[edgy shale]

i think its more on my server, but ya nothing too crazy

[vast vapor]

300k on my server too

and to put sockets on those lul

[molten knot]

Anyone try the legendary life and death in 2vs2 arena as rest with a warrior?

[strong otter]

holy fucking cnt shit, the Horde loses every single fucking non level 60 Battleground.

Cant do random bgs while leveling because every single game has level 60s downscaled smurfing

with 10k more hp than you and 2 shot you

[median lantern]

what covenant are fc guardians going for rbgs?

or is it not a big difference?

[stray sigil]

id asumme nf

[little temple]

What is the best conduits for boomie NF arenas?

[stray sigil]

for souslhape

[vast vapor]

just queue as alliance then

[queen copper]

Well honed and either bark skin and the regen healing bonus

[tiny oar]

Is that rbg brack or 3s

[edgy shale]

who was playing? is that like piakboo and xaryu or wat

[stray sigil]

prob pika on ww

and like wzk sterge

[crude silo]

Boy balance druids are kinda useless in arenas now

"Oh look I casted 14 wraths and now I'm dead."

https://tenor.com/view/excited-ron-swanson-giggle-so-much-fun-gif-14647008

[stray sigil]

uh

[queen copper]

600? Over 1k at least

[queen copper]

Doinitwrong

[tiny oar]

Big mood

[stray sigil]

this cord is something else sometimes

ive seen it all

[lime light]

Its not the same, after sl

I swear

Even i got an anus kenker from it

[stray sigil]

too many boomy apes

ruined our server

[lime light]

Our hm i would say mine tho

Ok iam outi, Hope u doing good bro

Pxe

Pce

[crude minnow]

ooga booga me convoke and starfall

[stray sigil]

@lime light our

urs in eu time mine in us

[tiny oar]

That's a big

Absterge has said multiple times

If every1 had to get plastered to compete at blizzcon the move would win 100% @vestal citrus

[rigid linden]

bunch of fucking idiots

makes me wanna POPOFF
on them

[tiny oar]

Ya like ppl debating 5 ilvl sidegrades like it's the difference between 1600 and 2400

Holy fuk

I could never be a moderator in this place

Bless thymes poor soul

Ya like be 210+ ilvl with decent vers and anything after that is just ur and ur teams playmaking

Ppl overcomplicate it tho

[gray flower]

Any pawn strings for PVP druid?

resto

[tiny oar]

@gray flower dont use pawn for pvp just get haste vers everything if possible mastery is ok too

[gray flower]

@tiny oar I don't like to think 😉

[tiny oar]

U dont have 2 think just wear highest ilvl vers u got gg done

Lol yea that's some real pepega shit that's why I like the idea of convoke like play like a donkey and u just get 1 shot for it, noobs cry about it but swear that's the way it should b tbh

Beats 15m MLD dampeners every fucking match

Yea like kyrian CA triple surge or w/e woulda been gg too either way rite so