F2f will be so happy
#pvp
tiny oar
junior ingot
Eye of fs or pred craving for nf leggo?
stray sigil
disgusting
surreal loom
Symettry main + Natural order for sure
natural order vs setup comps that blow you up
or rogue/mage 2's mostly
wheat geyser
As a guardian in rbg, you guys play balance or resto affin? (Night fae)
rigid linden
last cliff
If i run Verdant Infusion, and have the floral recycling conduit, so i still get the +52% healing of swiftmend?
wheat geyser
Alright, so just convoke in bear form
last cliff
Do i*?
Also does drought of deep focus increase Rejuv healing if on a single target, with both rejuv's provided youre running germination?
tiny oar
Yes and yes @last cliff
last cliff
Also does Lycara's Fleeting Glimpse casts Primal wrath in cat form, so say i am resto, with feral affinity, and i already have Rip on a target, does it put a second Rip up?
or is the damage from primal wrath its own DOT?
tiny oar
Presumably just replace the old rip but never play that legendary lol
last basin
hey what talents do u use as nf boomie in rbgs?
wheat geyser
1/3/2/2/3/2/1
strong otter
Is travel form speed the same as cat form in pvp?
last basin
what about FoE and starlord
safe heart
you guys ever consider going with malornes against other druids?
tardy hare
Is travel form speed the same as cat form in pvp?
no, travel form is faster
edgy shale
i go incarn and full moon
cobalt gale
Guys, I gonna play some RBG's with my guild, and I don't know if go with my main spec (feral) or boomy coz imo are better on RBG's. What do you think? And what will a feral bring?
unborn anchor
Boomie definetely the favorable spec for rbg, but I manage as feral
last jackal
i couldnt play feral knowing how boomie are in bgs, total mad
edgy shale
i main feral but i play boomy for RBG
edgy shale
he also plays a lot of guardian. i think if u wanna play feral in RBGs u gotta be able to go guardian on certain maps or ur a liability
tiny oar
dark helm
I thought travel form was capped to same speed as cat form in pvp?
fast lark
Is Syrian best for PvP? Boomy?
tardy hare
he also plays a lot of guardian. i think if u wanna play feral in RBGs u gotta b...
that's their problem, not your problem1!!!!
dark helm
Anyone know what they are?
tardy hare
I thought travel form was capped to same speed as cat form in pvp?
nah, cat is like 30. travel is 40?
edgy shale
if i were doing guild group and my guild let me do feral, i would play feral. boomy is just easier groups for pugs is all
and yea lol
tardy hare
not 100% sure
tiny oar
Travel 40 sounds rite
dark helm
Both slower than mounted?
edgy shale
if u take the talent its mount speed
dark helm
What talent
edgy shale
the pvp talent
tiny oar
MALORNES SWIFTNESS
edgy shale
facts
tardy hare
stop talking
coral trellis
Guys Got a maybe stupid question. I've never played druid before. Just Got mine to 60 and planning to do pvp with it. Do you have binds for your forms?
finite kraken
you need high speed mouse to click the spells from the boook
tiny oar
stop talking
A boi can dream ok hush raccoon
tardy hare
🔪
tiny oar
Guys Got a maybe stupid question. I've never played druid before. Just Got mine ...
Yes bind all ur forms to sumthing easy for u to press cuz you'll be swapping in and out of them a lot. Etc my bear form is V cat ' travel shift f
forest kite
I handle shapeshift on mouse since 15 y, top wheel cat, bot wheel bear, middle travel, + cancel form etc on other mouse bind etc...
coral trellis
Can you bind them without putting them on your action bar? Like I Said. New to druid :-)
fervent gull
How much time do we have left for this season?
edgy shale
yes
fervent gull
Or how much does a season lasts, is it tier related?
edgy shale
pretty sure we don't know yet. at least I don't. Prob around may
hollow trail
I really would like some help with sorting out my macros. I only use arena123 for cc in arenas, however, I cant get the spells to work outside of arena and end up having extra keybinds for clone/root/beam/bash when outside of arenas :/
#showtooltip Cyclone
/cast [target=arena1,exists,nodead] Cyclone; Cyclone
/cast [target=arena2,exists,nodead] Cyclone; Cyclone
/cast [target=arena3,exists,nodead] Cyclone; Cyclone
I think the above have always worked for me before in other expansions. plz help
forest kite
which addon shows enemy big cd defensive next to their nameplate?
nameplate cooldowns?
tiny oar
which addon shows enemy big cd defensive next to their nameplate?
flyPlateBuffs
summer oasis
bitter harness
lil bit
worthy parrot
Boomie pvp, is it versa>mastery>haste or is versa>haste>mastery?
eternal cypress
Intellect;
Versatility;
Haste;
Mastery;
Critical Strike.
regal vessel
Hi, do you guys see moonkin + arms / ww as a viable 3v3 setup?
Shoulda checked sticky first i guess :- P
slim crater
@worthy parrot imo you see haste or Mastery as the option, choose mastery
I'm regretting haste atm, I have to much and not alot of PvP gear is mastery second
clear pulsar
Every rank 1 boomie I've checked on armory has over 15% haste except Sodah
If you're 'regretting' having haste you're clowning tbh
hushed pivot
being able to throw out multiple surges faster, i'd never regret
clear pulsar
Yeah idk it's like, whatever
hushed pivot
but anyways whats the leggo for rbg resto?
verdant, unending or mother tree?
or circle?
clear pulsar
Verdant is comfy, Mother Tree is what most of the higher rdruids seem to run in RBGs
slim crater
@clear pulsar yeah I'm at 11% haste atm so I'm already pretty hard in mastery got nf
wheat geyser
Whats concidered the easier spec to climb RBG ranks? Balance or guardian ? (As a pug)
wheat geyser
Alright. Cheers mate
hushed pivot
balance is highly sought after
slim crater
Both are decent atm but boomy is better/easier
wheat geyser
Im a tank
slim crater
What your ilvl?
wheat geyser
Only play m+ but i want that sweet vers pvp gear
210 atm
And 207 boomie
Shitty 200 weap
wheat geyser
Ill try boomie, i have boat but do not have sleeper
slim crater
Some groups will take you because you can do both
Boomy for defence on spin points/assualt and tank for fc
I think someone here posted a spin guide for defence
edgy shale
sleeper+ able to go boomy is the most desirable thing possible
slim crater
Yep
wheat geyser
Sounds good
slim crater
Maybe the most viable thing
placid maple
Hi guys i'm main restoration, but i wish to push 3s with boomie but i don't know nothing about it in shadowlands. i'm here to ask which lego is better for arena and stat prio. i know there's a lot of guides but i have my had full of resto guides and i wan't fill it again with boomie
slim crater
@placid maple are you NF?
placid maple
<@404260695480467477> are you NF?
yes
wheat geyser
Whats "spinning" ?
hushed pivot
boat as NF but you'll mostly fight around convoke CD's unless you get a really good set up
slim crater
You "spin " the flag @wheat geyser aka stop caps from happening on maps like arathi basin
clear pulsar
Whats "spinning" ?
Hitting people trying to pick up a flag or capture a base
hushed pivot
time has better consistency and doesnt rely on convoke as much
slim crater
It's called spin because in early rbg aoe stopped flag caps
wheat geyser
Spin to win
clear pulsar
Well aoe still does
slim crater
So you did spin moves like bladestorm, whirlwind, druid spin moves etc
viscid quest
Is there any good guide for guardian flag carry in bgs?
hushed pivot
can gemination proc unending?
clear pulsar
Yes
limber plover
hey, wanna ask which class I should looking for 3v3 as rdruid?
ret paladin? since I've good time with ret in 2v2
quiet crater
yes, you can
queen drift
Nice, ty
clear pulsar
hey, wanna ask which class I should looking for 3v3 as rdruid?
The comps that I see rdruids play in streams and stuff are generally caster cleaves, like spr mage, spr lock, ele mage
limber plover
so goal is to get a sustainable team?
queen drift
offhealing classes are good with you
but idk cuz I never lose against rdroods, they can't heal through my burst usually
queen drift
mm
clear pulsar
That's a whole lot of weird tbh
limber plover
is it my time to join boomkin
queen drift
we are trying dpsDH,tankpaladin,rdruid now
you might need more dmg
cuz i dont see your team killing anything
prot pals are healers not dps
clear pulsar
Prot is really a 2nd healer, and you're playing with a dps that doesn't have the type of damage to score solo kills
limber plover
tank switch to ret would be better?
clear pulsar
Absolutely
queen drift
yes
limber plover
ah I see
clear pulsar
Unless the pala's a prot main and never played ret before
limber plover
I just found this pala guy
I he said he is gonna craft a ret lego now for us to pvp
clear pulsar
Just make sure you're using your tools correctly, bursting when you can get cross CC out, chain imprison stun cyclone on healer, stun kill target, etc
Most important thing is playing consistently bro
limber plover
yeah I get used to that pattern in 2v2
clear pulsar
If you can get/make some friends that are willing to play and work things out together
Better than cycling thru lfg with meta comps
clear pulsar
Pvp is a lot about 'protocols' so to speak
Where you want to trade just the cds you need to survive
And get damage out in a somewhat coordinated way with cross CC
So like, each time you get a new partner you start from 0 on that end
limber plover
oh I see, thanks for the tips
queen drift
Agree but lfg is always a good thing to train if your class is not bottom tier like rdruid
😄
limber plover
my only goal is 1800 for pvp gears lol I hope we can reach it with off meta comp
queen drift
Yeah you can
livid wasp
queen drift
yes
though most of them are bad
you hard switch on them, either they panick and die or they press all CD
then u do it again 1min later and they die
limber plover
oh um what if I switch to balance druid and let pala switch to holy?
queen drift
oh um what if I switch to balance druid and let pala switch to holy?
probably better because boomkin and hpals are broken these days
hardy cargo
you hard switch on them, either they panick and die or they press all CD
Seen way too many hpals use bubble because dps DARE switch to them
queen drift
Seen way too many hpals use bubble because dps DARE switch to them
Ahah yeah when they're not expecting it they get scared very fast
hardy cargo
Theres also hpals I've seen with no trink and use bubble to break cc because their dps is getting steamrolled
rich crag
phew had to rush through layer 5 and 6 in torghast didn't know it was going to go down lol
vast vapor
any idea why down
rich crag
it was scheduled for some reason
earnest mango
I might be stupid but can't seem to be able to sim the traits that req 30 renown.
Anyone know how to or what look the best for Niya?
chrome panther
tbh just hoping for arms nerfs so i can cruise ele/boom/hpal to rank 1
and not lose to every arms/ret/hpal comp that ques into me
chrome panther
both are pretty disgust
u leave ele alone for 4 gcds he pumps like 40k into someone in 3 casts np
tiny oar
yea boomie ele hpal sounds invincible with infinite dam
naive parrot
I started doing PVP as balance for honor and gear. I find that I get destroyed pretty quickly. Are there any good guides or resources out there in addition to icy veins and wowhead?
wheat path
hahahahha convoke after the nerf, we still going strong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgdD1KgBatc&t=21s
@naive parrot what is ur versatility % atm?
and hp
naive parrot
It's not amazing. I'm at ilvl 190 right now mostly with the story covenant gear fully upgraded.
wheat path
yeah i recommend going bear affinity and macro a quick macro that puts you in bear form and hits frenzy regen
when things get crazy pop that
naive parrot
I've been slowly purchasing stuff with honor to help fill the gap.
I started with the trinkets.
serene jasper
Where can i find resto druid talent and other information for pvp?
wheat path
@naive parrot if you go to 3:50 in the video i slapped in, usually as soon as i see someone pop cds i jump in bear form
naive parrot
I'll have to start doing that.
wheat path
if you take bear affinity you get a damage reduction in bear form and a bunch of pretty cool defensives
naive parrot
I put the ability that morphs you into bear form on my bar. Has a 30 second cooldown. I forget what it's called.
wheat path
i also recommend thorns as a pvp talent, if melee dps are on you slap this on you while in bear form and you will not only be a tank but will hit them back everytime they hit you
frenzied regeneration?
naive parrot
I forget offhand. It's not that. Servers are down atm so i can't log in to check. I'm basically looking for the easiest pvp variant for druid because i suck atm.
wheat path
@naive parrot yeah, i might make a analysed video over the weekend or something, seems a lot of people could benefit from some tiny tips etc, are you struggling in arenas or bgs?
naive parrot
BGs mostly. I don't really dish out enough damage and if more than 1 person comes at me i'm pretty much screwed.
wheat path
are you night fae or kyrian?
naive parrot
night fae, renown 25 i think.
wheat path
are you feeling strong in celestial allignment/convoke
naive parrot
I use both fairly often.
wheat path
whats ur ingame name and server ill look at ur gear etc
naive parrot
Lashrin - Blood Furnace.
wheat path
I personally find using twin moons instead of stellar drift more powerful, it allows you to dot two people at once with moonfire so you slap it on 4 people and 8 people get it, this builds heaps of AP so you can startsurge more often
naive parrot
cool. I need to switch my talents from general PvE over to PvP.
clear pulsar
BGs mostly. I don't really dish out enough damage and if more than 1 person come...
You won't really stay alive 1vMany as any spec in the game atm
wheat path
yeah for sure^ if you are caught out alone without a healer, no defensives or movement cds ur screwed!
naive parrot
I'll put it this way. My BG record is like 4 wins and 20 losses this week.
clear pulsar
You just need to pick the fights, run with the team, play together, do good dam
wheat path
it may be positioning chrom do you split off from the group
clear pulsar
Bear form is a tremenndous defensive
naive parrot
Yeah. I'm definitely going to start using bear form more. I'm also going to take another hard look at my talents.
harsh jasper
Is there a good resource to study 3v3 and 2v2 arena strats for various comps?
For example, if I am running Disc/Monk/Feral, or Disc/Warrior/Feral, is there a resource that gives good advice on who to main focus if you're going up against Hpal/Lock/Sp, etc?
naive parrot
Balance's rotation to me seems WAY more oriented towards PvE than PvP. It's a big mentality shift.
harsh jasper
I think my team makes very poor decisions on focus targets, CC targets, etc.
wheat path
@harsh jasper tbh you pick that up over time, but your first target tends to not be ur only target, you may be pressuring a dps while ccing a holy pal to force bubble/wings then hard to switch ur cds on the pally to kill him
a lot of people tend to tunnel vision one target too hard and they leave the other players to just do their pvp rotation
pve* rotation
harsh jasper
<@!273600989330669580> tbh you pick that up over time, but your first target ten...
Gotcha
wheat path
@harsh jasper while servers are down ill look around for some resources and @ you if i found any
umbral comet
Whats the go to legendary for guardian flag carrier
kindred galleon
Sleeper
harsh jasper
yea i use sleeper for FC
works good in combo with convoke too when I am spinning azerite
foggy ravine
Balance's rotation to me seems WAY more oriented towards PvE than PvP. It's a bi...
in pvp balance druid is a lot of saving your AP for surges with other CDs whether thats incarn, or after convoke, or with pvp badge. in between its a lot of moonfire/sunfire/cyclones to peel for your team/yourself and surviving by kiting
kindred galleon
Bearform
kindred galleon
Regen and roar
foggy ravine
regen so strong
lime light
tiny oar
sad
little forum
Do you guys use convoke with incarn or separate them for more kill windows as boomy
foggy ravine
I play kyrian personally - but I think most use them together b/c incarn double dips on mastery and convoke with the right soulbind gives yuge mastery buff
little forum
Ye that’s what I’ve been doing. Wish I was kyrian for badge + 10% dam surges every minute
foggy ravine
ya its fun I like it
just feels like you have constant pressure on the other team with cds + beam every minute
clear pulsar
You can still run badge and foe as night fae broski
little forum
Is fury of elune worth taking cos it lines up with all of that?
foggy ravine
ya I use foe
ya foe + badge is still gonna be gnarly
15% kyrian buff is just icing on the cake
kindred galleon
Ye that’s what I’ve been doing. Wish I was kyrian for badge + 10% dam surges eve...
And 20
foggy ravine
15 if you bind yourself
kindred galleon
20 from dreambinder as well
foggy ravine
ye
crude minnow
As night fae, when I run dreambinder foe, my goes outside of big cds always feel like I would've killed them if I had 15% dam
Or I woulda been purged who knows
foggy ravine
I feel like both work its just how you want the pressure, do you want set ups or do you want consistent pressure
crude minnow
True I do force them to hyperventilate until I convoke.
foggy ravine
convoke forces teams to hold cds or interrupts etc. I feel like thats the real strength
and if they don't respect then you pew pew
crude minnow
I hate facing convoke balance. Makes the game too stressful
clear pulsar
Yeah I sit on convoke soooo long in so many games
And people just refuse to trinket any cc setup ever until you use it
junior plover
Yep
foggy ravine
dude as feral if the healer trinkets
lil maim behind pillar and you touch em inappropriately
junior plover
Bro as feral if the enemy disc fears in the opener
He trinkets pops everything still dies
mostly anyway
but at 2.1k people stop doing dumb shit like that
resto shamans dont kick my stupid cyclones
disc priests dont fear for shit and giggles
rogues dont trinket aggresively
crude minnow
tbf convoke makes me want to get a lot faster with my reaction speed and inputs. So maybe its good for the game in that sense
junior plover
Convoke isnt bad for the game
well
feral anyway
its the embodiment of trading cooldowns positively to find setups
balance convoke is a meme
press it and you win 30% of games
foggy ravine
I think a good way to balance boomy convoke is to make it astral spell class tbh
last jackal
What builds pvp and talents do boomkins use in RBG?
safe wind
I think the only thing that makes convoke slightly bad for the game is that you can cast it out of range of melee ranged cc
If you're in 2's against double melee, they're more or less fucked
devout phoenix
I’m learning to hold convoke and it’s been very rewarding
devout phoenix
Also incap roar into cyclone chains is like the neatest trick ever
safe wind
it can kill through all defensives
Not really
foggy ravine
5 surges with mastery buff and incarn is ez 100k
foggy ravine
I mean 5 surges is p good rng but still
junior plover
I should know that if I double wall
i'll be fine vs convoke
and i dont have to throw everything at the boomie to cc him
devout phoenix
Watching people play is so cool, no one ever puts stuff like that in written guides
safe wind
Convoke isn't the only spell that can kill through weak defensives
junior plover
"weak"
trail crane
thats why removing moon was good
safe wind
You can't kill through 70% mitigation unless they're a literal 180 ilvl andy
devout phoenix
If your wrath or starfire gets kicked, does that lock those spells out if you immediately convoke after?
foggy ravine
well if wrath is kicked you can't convoke
crude minnow
@last jackal vers/haste with some mastery. If you rely on convoke, boat. Otherwise dreambinder. Run fury of elune +treants if you will be sitting. FOE always for dreambinder. Starsurge or incarn is preference. twin moons is better than stellar drift since you should NOT starfall out of some specific scenarios. Moonkin aura and celestial guardian are always taken. Thorns, interrupt immunity, root damage resistance, dispell gives AP are situational
foggy ravine
np
junior plover
Sometimes I can just skin or even use no defensives
and I'm fine into a full convoke
sometimes I double wall and die in 2s of convoke
that's just unhealthy for the game
foggy ravine
ya it really depends on the rng of the spells cast, and how many people are actually being hit
convoke onto a single target is ouch
blissful belfry
The best counter to convoke is to play near your team
last jackal
@crude minnow cheers
blissful belfry
triple the stops, triple the targets to soak it
haughty compass
Plenty of things kill through defensives right now
foggy ravine
cough mongo ret
haughty compass
You can literally pop bubble and wings and destroy someone
Combust
Hunters getting their shit off
foggy ravine
ya gotta respect the cds and if ya don't you going to sleep
haughty compass
Convoke is not that hard to counter. Now, should it benefit from aura mastery? I dunno
trail crane
You can literally pop bubble and wings and destroy someone
from a returning player point of view,when i find out the 50% dmg reduction was removed i puked
safe wind
Convoke is not that hard to counter. Now, should it benefit from aura mastery? I...
Why would it not?
chrome panther
wait till divine toll multi-procs and does 20k damage worth of judgements in 1 global.
foggy ravine
I think aura mastery convoke is fine they are just piling more cds into one go
you survive and they have that much less
chrome panther
except you probably traded more than 2 defensives for it
blissful belfry
Convoke might be the hardest bursting single target spell in the game when set up correctly. But it is also the easiest offensive cooldown to stop in the game
haughty compass
Yes ^
foggy ravine
you also gotta think they aren't just using aura mastery and convoke
they are using lots of other offesnive cds usually too
haughty compass
I’m not arguing against aura mastery, just saying it can be nearly impossible to counter with certain comps
haughty compass
If I see a cleave with a disc priest it’s a free win with AM convoke
vast vapor
imagine having counter comps
blissful belfry
I've cavoked +bell into a solo disc without killing him. Most 2k+ disc priest are able to heal through cavoke. Im not a priest so i cant tell exactly what they press, but they feel goddamn immortal
clear pulsar
Radiance twice
Just kick penance
If you realize they aren't running radiance talent you can kill in a shadow lockout and they can't fear you
If they're running radiance you just make sure fear is on cd, kick penance and kill
blissful belfry
The problem in 3s, is if you dont cavoke out of stealth, they know where you are and it takes 5 times the effort to create a window where you can solo cavoke someone
clear pulsar
If you kick shadow they can still use defensives
If you kick holy they can only shadow mend
Cant PS or barrier
Tho theyc an fear or mc too ofc
crude minnow
fade is shadow tho, so if you're on them it can still be good
blissful belfry
fear is never a problem for me, but i've once seen a priest MC my convoke, i legit thought he hacked. I swear he pressed MC before i even popped outta stealth i was like ''aah HA, you are mc'ing someone? Then you die!'' i cavoke outta stealth, the mc lands on me. Im like, Wattt
crude minnow
he prob was spamming a macro haha
blissful belfry
yeah, but what kind of goddamn macro is that
crude minnow
arena target x MC
blissful belfry
''/target the mongo druid /cast mc''
blissful belfry
i've started streaming my games just so i can rewatch funky moments like that and to see how thet somehow manage to survive when i swear they should die
blissful belfry
well, i look at details healing done when i dont kill someone
usually its just radiance
But anyhow, i have my soul ash table mission ending. Tonight i'll be able to straight up craft TD rank 4 and play another set up
clear pulsar
I was watching hansol when they were playing tourney games cuz syfox stream was laggy
And he uses gladiusex just for cd tracking
So he can place them by arena enemy 'attached' to his sArena
And I thought it was genius so I did the same, and then also added the spell casts tracking thing for like, looking at in replays or something
I already use trufigcd for mine and my party's spells
wind rock
what legendaries would you recommend for resto for RBGs specificly?
hardy blade
play feral/boomkin 2v2 with a rogue.
what covenant to pick?
safe wind
NF imo
errant blaze
Boomie with rogue is fun in 2’s with nf :-p
safe wind
They have enough cc to guarantee you convoke against melees
junior plover
Any kitties tried Korayn this week?
I'm thinking of running this into matchups that you dont win through convoke
but idk if just tapping convoke for insta 400 mastery isnt better than wild hunt tactics
last jackal
You mean the last row? isnt that haste
junior plover
Dreamweaver is haste
junior plover
POG
gusty siren
is convoke better after the change now or have i got more gear
gusty siren
starsurge deleting people
vital parcel
maybe ur just getting good rng
gusty siren
its possible yeah
clear pulsar
devout phoenix
Where do you guys find people to play with? I’ve been pugging but a lot of times pugs don’t like to use voice which makes strats kinda hard
hardy cargo
Friending good players from pugs, bringing good guildies. I think there's also discords for finding m+/rbg groups. If you do m+ can see if you can get into some m+ communities
devout phoenix
Friending good players from pugs, bringing good guildies. I think there's also d...
Awesome, I’ll look around then, thanks!
rich crag
i wish we could play feral and get typhoon for some maps lol without balance spec
long mango
according to the pins, Haste and Mastery are about even, but is there an amount of haste you should really shoot for as NF balance?
quaint plinth
Friending good players from pugs, bringing good guildies. I think there's also d...
Can you give any bgs discord?
karmic kelp
wheat geyser
Prio in RBG is to put moon & sunfire on everybody? Im looking at a boomie on youtube and hardly see him cast wrath/starfire
queen copper
Can you give any bgs discord?
Dmd u oasis link
queen copper
Prio in RBG is to put moon & sunfire on everybody? Im looking at a boomie on you...
Keep dots up between surge goes yep
acoustic nebula
Dots, clones, goes
You should aim for 20-60 cyclones per game, for a starter benchmark.
wheat geyser
Alright ill try doing that! Thx
acoustic nebula
Yes, I recommend getting details and battleground enemies so you can see DR timer on cc
And details is to track your damage/healing/cc done so you can see what others did and see how you can do more
queen copper
I like diminish addon for dr timers
acoustic nebula
Yes I think I have that with BGE
queen copper
Puts them on nameplates and unitframes
acoustic nebula
But rotate cyclones a lot
And learn to fake cast to get their kicks
Since you will constantly be casting
wheat geyser
Oki. Whats "goes" ?
queen copper
100 astral power -> dead kill target
wheat geyser
Okay
turbid jolt
For resto rbg, what affinity do you prefer?
I have been using mostly guardian but i wondered if i should use balance for range
unborn notch
sup ya'll, what talents (regular not pvp) do you take for RBGs as balance druid
this is what I've been taking https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/balance/mHhz/0/5mj/5mT/Ydb
safe wind
sup ya'll, what talents (regular not pvp) do you take for RBGs as balance druid
I'm still trying to figure out what Affinity to run, but for RBGs I run 13X1221
cunning spoke
this is what I've been taking https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/balance/...
Have not been in too much RBG but almost the same thing. Incarnation on the 40 row and twin moons on the 45. I go back and forth with stellar drift and twin.
Random question...have most stuck with vers haste per most available information? The desire to stack mastery over haste for bigger surge hits pulls at me from time to time. This is for balance.
edgy hornet
for rbgs if ur NF boomie, what is the set up?
queen copper
Ca convoke
edgy hornet
i meant talent
queen copper
Same as others
Generally nb inc/sotf twin moons and solstice
If u got base sit duty swap to trees and foe
edgy hornet
gaurdian or resto affinity:?
sour fulcrum
is BoAT legendary or TD better for rbg?
strong otter
Lol anyone watching AWC? Prot pally healer just won a 3 match comeback
queen copper
Guardian usually
queen copper
is BoAT legendary or TD better for rbg?
Both good for nf. Depends if u want to front load in convoke or have good dam outside as well
edgy hornet
also do u guys starfall or SS mainly?
sour fulcrum
and for stats as balance for pvp we go vers and haste?
dark helm
Yes and a team with no healer just reverse sweeped to win their full match
crude minnow
lets not act like ppal isn't a healer
civic aspen
Hey boys. Trying to figure out what ar esome good combs for resto druid. I feel like the class isnt really all that good, so i should atleast be playing combos that are meta atm
junior plover
3s or 2s
forest kite
If you guys are looking for a good time 6 boomys in your rated battle ground team is super fun. We were all about 1400 RBGs pretty inexperienced and were clapping 2100 teams.
stray sigil
every game is 50% damp in awc ? lol
modern flicker
@vital parcel it's still going and there's a boomie rn
vital parcel
pog
dreamy aspen
If you guys are looking for a good time 6 boomys in your rated battle ground tea...
and let me guess at least 4 of you were night fae
got root-beamed and murdered by double convoke today, got hit by like 8 starsurges
vital parcel
I wanna make a full druid rbg
or like 7 boomies, guardian pala and sham
what do u even do vs 7 convokes
chrome panther
lose that one fight, stomp for the next 2 mins
vital parcel
I mean u dont even have to use all o them
chrome panther
also, press grounding totem
twilit siren
does convoke hit people who are rooted by other druid roots
chrome panther
no
vital parcel
no
unborn notch
stun, fear, kick
vital parcel
😦
minor valve
use cd's, use invulns, cc, and then destroy them for the rest of the time
unborn notch
yeah if your team is really bad then it will work, if not, you're gonna get stomped
especially in maps where a team fight doesn't matter that much, such as the azerite map
if the team you're facing is really bad***
vital parcel
would be fun tho
minor valve
poor balance in pvp, always running/trained
unborn notch
i generally don't like doing things like that because it makes things seem better than they might be
for example if you run that, stomp a 1500 team
then they go and cry how overpowered it is
and then it gets nerfed
blissful belfry
dont be too anxious, theres pretty much nothing you can personally do yourself to make blizzard nerf your class
minor valve
that being said, you run into a 5 box balance druid in WM and you're toast
blissful belfry
you stomping noobs in a bg wont land a nerf
safe wind
There is nothing that you will ever do that will lead to a nerf
minor valve
but in organized stuff, not as strong
unborn notch
that being said, you run into a 5 box balance druid in WM and you're toast
lol true
unborn notch
There is nothing that you will ever do that will lead to a nerf
yeah, i could see that, i just think it's in bad taste but too each his own!
junior plover
There is nothing that you will ever do that will lead to a nerf
this
unless youre a 3000 rated player
you cant cause a nerf
dont let your ego get to you
unborn notch
this
bro this has nothing to do with ego lmao
im just saying if ppl start cheesing with stuff and other ppl start complaining, nerfs happen
stray sigil
u cheesing at 1600 will not do anything
junior plover
I mean if 1000 other people went for the same cheese
sure
you'd literally need to have like 20% of all games be filled with this sort of cheese
for it to even get noticed by blizz
junior plover
?????????
unborn notch
and Fire Mage, and Holy Pala
unborn notch
no because ppl cried about it
stray sigil
convoke got a tap o nthe fingers
unborn notch
what do you think happens if ppl start class stacking
junior plover
Convoke randomness got normalized a bit because it was unhealthy for the game
unborn notch
and it becomes the meta
junior plover
Bro
people could class stack
10 dks in rbgs
and no one would give a shit
rbgs are
a meme
nobody cares
And the classes that got nerfed didnt get nerfed because they were dominating some 1500cr scrubs
Mage and Hpal are literally destroying the competitive side of wow arenas
stray sigil
pvp is a mini game
junior plover
Even the convoke nerf you could argue was largely influenced by what happened to Cdew in winner's finals
Convoke was never at any point too strong but that sort of randomness just doesnt have a place in the game
safe wind
no because ppl cried about it
Because the entire community was talking about how it was bad for the game
Not because someone was using it and somebody they played against whined about it
The point isn't "the community will never affect balance changes", the point is "you individually will never affect balance changes"
You personally abusing something will never be the reason it gets changed
unborn notch
and the community is comprised of individuals who copy what groups of individuals do
hence how the meta is formed
so individuals behaviors do matter because they influence other individuals
safe wind
If you think you're a big enough personality to influence the meta because people are modelling after you, idk what to tell you man
safe wind
so individuals behaviors do matter because they influence other individuals
?
This is just objectively wrong from a sociological perspective
safe wind
You can go try it yourself
Go abuse whatever mechanics you like to your heart's content. see if it affects balance changes
unborn notch
Like I said, I choose not to
and gave my reasons, somehow that became me having a big ego
gotta love the internet
forest kite
and let me guess at least 4 of you were night fae
5 night fae, I was the lone kyrian.
vapid crane
This is just objectively wrong from a sociological perspective
Never change PvP chat
Never change
dreamy aspen
5 
dreamy aspen
keep being told Kyrian is better cause it's controlled and unstoppable unlike Convoke
unborn notch
convoke is just a fun button
i went to kyrian on my feral from nf then back to nf
it's just a fun ass button to press
stray sigil
might be fun in unrated content
but as a feral that shit is not fun in anything else
forest kite
Yeah I tried nf but preferred kyrian it’s just mega surges very fun. Don’t like the rng/cheese of convoke for myself. Fun to watch the other boomies do it tho very entertaining
tough bluff
how is boom in 2s? any viable double dps comps with it or healer pretty much mandatory to push rating?
next lynx
not mandatory
forest kite
how is boom in 2s? any viable double dps comps with it or healer pretty much man...
Always healer unless you’re an experienced player or looking to just have a little fun . Play it with an Ele and off heal your ass off.
final solstice
Do you use Trash as feral in pvp? IV dont mention it at all, but wowhead says it should be used.. Not sure if 40 energy is worth it
tough bluff
what is the best leggo rn for kyrian boom? BOAT?
final solstice
thrash*
forest kite
what is the best leggo rn for kyrian boom? BOAT?
Timeworn dreambinder is slightly better, BOAT still works tho
tough bluff
idk why you'd use thrash except to proc BT
but if you have brutal slash you dont even need thrash no
next lynx
anyone do the ping pong where you heal because you cant find healers as dps, and then you get globaled and go back to dps
unborn notch
brutal slash takes over swipe
i use thrash on my goes or if they're grouped up
and im using the ferocious bite conduit
i asked the same question to bean and that's what he said at least
tough bluff
that makes sense if they are grouped and u have bite conduit
final solstice
so, rake -> trash -> BS to 5 points basically?
tough bluff
Timeworn dreambinder is slightly better, BOAT still works tho
u run timeworn w/ incarn for big incarns?
unborn notch
so, rake -> trash -> BS to 5 points basically?
yeah essentially, the opener is different though
forest kite
u run timeworn w/ incarn for big incarns?
Yeah really fun
unborn notch
opener is rake, rip if it generates two combo point, thrash, tiger's fury, feral frenzy, berserk, bite, bite, bite
haughty compass
Arena tourney: why play moonkin when fire mages exist
surreal loom
Well yeah fire mage has ice block and cauterize and alter time; moonkins have to sit in bear form
final solstice
opener is rake, rip if it generates two combo point, thrash, tiger's fury, feral...
Thanks, i'll test it out!
unborn notch
is it possible to yolo to 1600 lol
what spec / comp are you playing
tough bluff
opener is rake, rip if it generates two combo point, thrash, tiger's fury, feral...
why not thrash before rip since FF will give u 5 points anyways
unborn notch
why not thrash before rip since FF will give u 5 points anyways
yeah you could
that's probably better
rake, rip, and feral frenzy are the most important
so sometimes i won't even thrash depending on the circumstance
like if i think im gonna get feared
tough bluff
FF counts towards the bite conduit right
unborn notch
id rather get a bite in earlier
unborn notch
the bite bite bite is if you're running eye of fearful symmetry
it's a bit different if you're running another legendary
stray sigil
u dont have to open with zerk
unborn notch
yeah i agree
tough bluff
no but if you dont you'll have to shred/BS between bites
unborn notch
it just depends on how the opener goes
sometimes i don't berserk, but i only play 2's on feral
so i have convoke for my kill go
stray sigil
with reg bfa type opener
u can still force shit
dont have to use zerk right away
if anything its worse to just open with zerk
unborn notch
if im playing against healer / dps
and i open the healer and the dps is far away
im opening zerk, personally
just bc i can force a lot of cds with it
tough bluff
like bt said i think it is kinda situational on who ur opening probably. since a normal opener w/o zerk can get a solid defensive out
unborn notch
yup for sure
junior plover
u can still force shit
in 2s?
its near impossible to force anything from a good healer in 2s
in an opener
in my experience anyway
but in 3s yeah ofc
the meta is super fast
Perhaps my healer is just not aggressive enough
unborn notch
yeah and if you're kyrian you can use the empowerment instead of zerk
that's still pretty strong on the opener
with on use trinket
for trinket
final solstice
is shred a filler when you're out of BS charges? or do you wave it in there
junior plover
It's a filler if you have all dots up
and no brs
also its the preferred proc spender
final solstice
Ok, thanks 🙂 Just figuring out a priority in my head
junior plover
monks also
stray sigil
rogue u can oneshot
junior plover
cuz cleave
stray sigil
ww u can kill
junior plover
yeah rogue
junior plover
Yeah in my head any melee was
stray sigil
maybe not surv cuz mending + craven
oak canyon
ret def dies
unborn notch
rets tough cause you have to off heal or cyclone when your partner gets hoj'd
unborn notch
or they just die if they don't have cds
stray sigil
or monk maybe
junior plover
disc?
stray sigil
na
junior plover
disc falls over
stray sigil
not disc
junior plover
I'd love to sit WW but as feral disc we just get cleaved too hard
and die in like 1 setup
post dampen changes anyway
stray sigil
as long as u dont get double swept
unborn notch
as feral/disc
junior plover
feral/disc is now struggling vs any pala/melee
definitely harder than pre-patch
holy pala got buffed in 2s sadly
: (
one flash of light is still a 100% heal pretty much
through the 20% dampen
so the change tickled them
junior plover
Definitely
We used to lose to warriors by going oom only
now we just die
like 4-5 min in
You get 2 good goes before you can no longer be topped off vs warr damage
and the game ends
unborn notch
yeah ive been feeling that same thing
junior plover
but for some reason we've played barely any healer/dps this week
like 40% of the games
so it wasnt too bad
unborn notch
if i get an open map i can live a bit longer and beat bad warriors
junior plover
also mage/rogue + healer is noticeably easier
stray sigil
i dont think u can go healer with a disc
junior plover
which is nice
stray sigil
vs warriors
stray sigil
i mean u dont kill either
unborn notch
i think they have to make a mistake for you to win that
junior plover
Yeah that's how I feel
we do win it sometimes
but it's mostly because pala didnt bubble
or someone greeds trinket
stray sigil
u can run at hpal a bit
but i def think u kill warrior
just gotta find the bstance go
gloomy token
Disc has a fucking 50% aoe dr on a 90sec cd they're pure filth if you can't blow them up through pain sup
junior plover
your healer has to be dispelling those
instantly
i used to hate pala so much because of bop but since we got better
my healer just dispells it in 1 gcd
I think Kyrian feral might have a chance vs warr pala
but convoke is feelsbadman
junior plover
bt kyrian is def better vs war hpal
stray sigil
tis kinda winnable with a hpal
cuz u can kinda match dmg
and healer doesnt oom as fast
junior plover
Yeah I can imagine hpal is more playable
because you dont oom/dampen
and auto lose
junior plover
It is but if the pala is good he'll just immune the warr every time
not to mention die by the sword and only having 30s windows for priest to fear the warr
mindgames spell reflect
unborn notch
my favorite is watching my healer get pumped and i try to clone but have to wait for spell reflect
junior plover
With a hpal you can at least just trade defensives and eventually you can have a real go
unborn notch
then i try to clone again and they bladstorm
junior plover
Yep
Spend 1.5s casting clone
he reflects, you stop
wait 4s
or healer burns reflect
unborn notch
legit unpeal-able goes on your healer
junior plover
spend 1.5s casting clone
he bladestorms
You gotta be resto affi if you wanna peel the healer
unborn notch
vortex?
unborn notch
yeah it's decent in a bigger map, i play with lfg healers a lot so sometimes they don't even know its there
then they yell at me for not cc'ing the warriors go's
poggers
i find myself using the tank legendary a lot too
nature of order will or w/e it's called
barskin one
stray sigil
@junior plover dont just wait 4s for reflectlol
soothe/moonfire
its not bfa reflect anymore
stray sigil
tis only 1 spell now
junior plover
my healer always insta pops it
but youre right
im a dummy
Never in my life have i actually waited for it
unborn notch
I have 😥
gloomy token
TRUE necro gang 4 life
junior plover
cant wait for a 9.1 legendary to make necro bis
pve
gloomy token
It's like 300 dps atm
junior plover
in ST exclusively
stray sigil
hey what server are we in
gloomy token
And ff is still bugged
stray sigil
junior plover
Yeah we're just talking about
the bleed out feral pvp build
from mop
its coming back
stray sigil
hilarious one
gloomy token
Just pve some poor sod :^)
Would you still run eye as a necro cat in pvp my brain is too smooth to figure this shit out by myself
junior plover
No I would unironically just go all in with draught
I got schooled by a necro draught feral at 1900 or so
gloomy token
Absolutely based
stray sigil
embarassing
junior plover
better than symmetry necro for sure
gloomy token
I mean I've done some sick circle bleeds up fadeaways when memeing about
junior plover
wide oasis
which is the best legendary for boomie with rbg focus?
gloomy token
My heart couldn't take it if i did
stray sigil
wtf
junior plover
I'm making max rank curio next week
stray sigil
get this guy off my server
gloomy token
stray sigil
i mean whats the point of curio if no bt
gloomy token
Ff gang
stray sigil
just play stupid skin lego all day then
stray sigil
im telling u i tried bt pre curio
junior plover
junior plover
I'll give it a shot because
it makes sense
that it would be
but FF is vital for non convoke goes
for NF
stray sigil
i got ur solution
junior plover
no
stray sigil
u go in oribos
gloomy token
You'd still go sotf instead of lmao sr in pee vee pee
stray sigil
go to enclace
junior plover
dont say it
gloomy token
Wouldn't you
gloomy token
No no no no
junior plover
Yes sotf is must have
junior plover
wait 2 weeks
stray sigil
ya formy was on some nonesense saying sr is good
sr is not good
0 chance that shit is good
gloomy token
Gross i fucking hate sotf
stray sigil
he was trying to say it was good with ff sym too lol
junior plover
sr sounds good
gloomy token
Ff does like sr
stray sigil
i think if u want to play sr
junior plover
its like being kyrian
stray sigil
u do need curio
gloomy token
And sr likes ff
stray sigil
its not about the energy it feels kinda nice
its the amount of globals
u waste putting it up
junior plover
I guess but leading up to a go
if youre just casting filler
SR is looong
also
do a 1 point SR before go
doesnt sound bad
gloomy token
Is it purgeable
stray sigil
its 36s at 5cp
stray sigil
so u wouldnt ahve it up for every ff go if u use on cd