fuji whos that
#pvp
tiny oar
HA
tardy hare
truly a genius person
stray sigil
hi lakerz
junior plover
This is fuji
big brain?
clear pulsar
stray sigil
no shot
blissful belfry
as soon as my soul ashe table mission finishes i can craft TD rank 4 and try out the 5 surge combo instead of the mongo boat convoke all in
I just wonder how much my rating will drop if i need to rely on proper skills rather than one shottin clueless monke
indigo forum
Just bought TD and its so much better than boat for fae i feel like
foggy ravine
I dO sO mUcH dAmAgE, wOw I'm So GoOd - starfallers in rbgs
summer oasis
yea
indigo forum
Pad pad pad
foggy ravine
50k surge damage 1mil starfall omegalul
once you try dreambinder you never go back its so juicy
mighty yoke
honest question: what can i possible do against a ww monk as feral
safe wind
Reduce his health to 0 before he does the same to you
mighty yoke
i get blown up in 3 sec, even with bear, bear conduits, thorns
i cant, im at a loss, idk what to do
safe wind
I'm not exactly a feral savant but I imagine the play is to do a weak first initiation to bait out his cds
Monks are fast as fuck boi, but so are druids
soft engage until he pops cds then gtfo
mighty yoke
i cant survive his initial burst is what im saying
i cant get out
i travel form leap
bash
instantly back on me
safe wind
If you mean his literal like 1-3 second burst than you just need more versatility and ilvl
safe wind
Then you aren't using your defensives probably
mighty yoke
typically dont play roots
mighty yoke
ill try to do warstomp on fists
clear pulsar
Open hard, then go bear and thorns after they're out of the stun, kite on their fists of fury and root into a cyclone, etc
You get instant free root every finisher
safe wind
If you don't have enough time to kite, I don't know what you're doing wrong
mighty yoke
man i wish i could survive that long
safe wind
There is no reason he should be killing you in one or two gcds
mighty yoke
this is 1v1, not having a healer on me fyi
clear pulsar
Frenzied regen, well honed FR
mighty yoke
they are doing 4.5k dps single target
clear pulsar
Well the ww doesnt have a healer either
mighty yoke
with me doing stuns
clear pulsar
You gotta do dmg yeah?
clear pulsar
Idk it's just the general idea of a 1v1
mighty yoke
idk, they are the only class i feel like i have 0 counterplay
blissful belfry
Pretty stupid how you cant incap fist of fury. The mongo brainded Windwalker PARRIES a shout. Okay
mighty yoke
i cant kite, cant live, cant dmg them more than they do me
foggy ravine
feral 1v1 I feel like is -> opener -> bleeds -> kite
blissful belfry
windwalker parrying sound waves
foggy ravine
but I am but a humble boomkin
blissful belfry
gad damn
mighty yoke
im trying that, but i cant kite them for more than a sec or 2, which is only enough to pop a rejuv and get back into bear
mighty yoke
youre not getting a clone off
clear pulsar
To hell if I'm not
clear pulsar
Maybe you aren't
foggy ravine
ya when hes fisting you got 2 escapes soul shape and leap
blissful belfry
stomp-clone, incap-clone, bash-clone, root-clone
safe wind
If he wants to keep doing damage, he loses FoF
foggy ravine
ya you can clone fists too
clear pulsar
More of an arena for off-target thing
But yeah just
Idk bro ww isn't THAT sick at 1v1
mighty yoke
alright ill give that a go
safe wind
The thing about Feral - WW is that sure, he can catch you if you try to run. But he isn't damaging you while he's catching up
foggy ravine
and honestly if you get kicked as feral w/e
foggy ravine
prob trinket leg sweep on monk cds
clear pulsar
Something like this
mighty yoke
thats pretty close to what im running
im not trading cds effectively evidently
ill make sure to clone fists
and bash WHEN i get kicked
clear pulsar
I wouldn't bother with putting up Rip on opener
mighty yoke
at least at my shitty cr they are kicking it
clear pulsar
Cuz ideally when you go for a incap roar into clone, there's no bleeds to break incap
Just go rake ff bite very fast
Then bear/kite/cc til stun dr is back
mighty yoke
alright ill try it - i appreciate it
pallid coral
thorn cypress
I am just above 1800 rating right now. If I fall down below 1800 rating can I still upgrade to ilvl 220?
clear pulsar
There's a range you can fall
Down to 1770 or so
And still maintain the bracket
You need the rank tho to upgrade
So if you fall to challenger you can't upgrade to rival anymore, gotta climb again
eternal axle
errant blaze
Lock fear takes notoriously big damage before breaking tho
Its a conduit slot that increases dmg before breaking for locks
forest kite
Does anyone have a list of addons for pvp for feral druids or somth like that i never downloaded and dont wanna take risks
earnest turret
which conduits should we go for as NF Boomkin?
clear pulsar
Does anyone have a list of addons for pvp for feral druids or somth like that i ...
Gladius/sArena as arena frames. Omnibar for tracking enemy cds. Alternatively GladiusEX does both at the same time. Looks a bit different, and the cd tracking isn't quite up to date or customizable at all.
BigDebuffs makes auras more visible, great addon. OmniCD (or ArenaTeamTracker but OmniCD is better) for tracking teammates' cds.
Anything that makes it more comfortable for you to track important information
Weakauras, Nameplate addons that you like, etc
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
That's like personal preference really
I use dominos and moveanything to just place things differently
Resize some things
hardy cargo
No main hand frying pan offhand chloroform? Shame
tiny oar
Damn that's even better i only got a staff tho
stable halo
Love it mate... So sad there is no glyph for ferals like boomkin has, imagine a tauren biting people to death
hardy cargo
Its what I make my priest use when I have 1hand/offhand
errant blaze
Anyone has a good way to add the covenant abilitys to omnicd? (Other than finding the specific spell ids as they arent standard there)
tiny oar
Love it mate... So sad there is no glyph for ferals like boomkin has, imagine a ...
Yea that would really be sumthing lol
paper solar
balance pvp stat priority?
clear pulsar
livid wasp
crude minnow
Also it being so hard to fucking click sometimes
fervent imp
Tab works fine on this
tropic storm
after the nerf for convoke is night fae the best pvp convenant for balance still?
clear pulsar
@stray sigil I'm gonna have to make curio on necklace bro
Ring costs twice as much
What the FRICK
gusty arrow
Any advice against monk in 2s? as balance x)
Always getting covid playing against them
clear pulsar
Look at details
gusty arrow
Using Skada kekW
vapid nexus
and don't blow big defensives into just earth wind and fire, even though you nearly have no choice a lot of the time, if the first charge of "storm earth and fire" gets cds, they'll use tiger+ the second storm earth and fire charge to guarantee you lose to them banging their stumps on the keyboard
blissful belfry
touch of death was changed. its just a flat execute now
doesnt build up, doesnt exlode. Its an off gcd guaranteed kill under 15%
vapid nexus
okeydokey then, guess kultiran aint such a feelsbad anymore.
vapid nexus
depends on your healer and the enemy's second dps, but just remember if you do take guardian:
that waving your fists and mildly moving their mouse makes them immune to incapacitating roar, so don't waste it trying to stop fists of fury
blissful belfry
Yes, windwalwker have magical fist that can parry roar somehow. really nice
vapid nexus
and because wild charge is the worst mobility spell in the game, when they're "close" to you (within 8 entire yds), it cannot be used to get behind them to stun them.
teal hinge
@tropic storm its not a nerf 80% of he time
forest kite
Anyone has Addons that wont fuck up my entire screen?
stable halo
Anyone has Addons that wont fuck up my entire screen?
Elaborate
forest kite
aight
i hope it wont fill my screen with action bars like domino did and i had to remove em and then i removed the mod and it reset my whole action bars before it
clear pulsar
I didn't tell you to use dominos lmao
Also you can hide the bars you dont want to see
last jackal
so long skirmish i just did, resto shaman in the other team, tank & dps on my team, me as healer.. Zz fest lol
no dmg
worthy carbon
BOAT or Dreambinder for night fae?
acoustic nebula
Both
dim heron
is still balance of all things best lego for balance
tulip pike
so i might just be being even dumber than usual
but i don't see and resto druid pins
other than the stream links
dusk bluff
anyone played around with The natural Order's will? i 2v2 and 3v3?
crafting my first legg now and the choice is between order or boat
stray sigil
y
clear pulsar
To guarantee shred crits with Korayn opener
So can do like Rake Shred Bite Shre Bite 100% everytime
Basically need 350 crit in gear
For that
Not end of the world to be 98% crit chance yeah!? But I want 100%
rare junco
????????
tardy hare
F
rare junco
look at the scores
rare junco
battlegroundenemies
muted valve
thank
tulip falcon
looks like a draw to me 
stone nest
You didn’t lose any cr. It just says that
stray sigil
@clear pulsar half the pvp gear is crit vers
do u really need the ring
with badge u have 100 for free
so u need 250
dont need the ring i dont think
clear pulsar
I got haste vers chest from vault
So I'm not buying crit vers cest
Yeah I have badge
stray sigil
i mean eventually i would replace that chest
clear pulsar
Yeah ofc but it'll take like a month you know?
stray sigil
i def made big mistake
i had a crit one and haste one in the same vault
but i chose haste one cuz it had avoidance on it
LUL
stray sigil
ill never replace wrists though
so im stuck with haste vers wrists
cuz it has a socket
clear pulsar
Wait 316 once I buy belt
clear pulsar
I already have the ring
This is with badge and ring already
And crit enchants on rings too
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
It's 31 but yeah 2 weeks away still
stray sigil
how is ur gear so bad
tardy hare
face literally shit gear
rigid linden
Bark
stray sigil
embarassing really
clear pulsar
forest kite
WOOF WOOF
forest kite
Anyone heard of TUKUI?
stray sigil
disgusting pve ui
forest kite
wait u use ELVUI for raids too?
stray sigil
pve ui
forest kite
yeah im getting ELV now
stray sigil
do not do it
stray sigil
details
stuck talon
details
elvui is great as a baseline for a UI, super easy to like disable the elvui arena frames & replace them with gex, rinse repeat for everything else.
rare junco
You didn’t lose any cr. It just says that
Yeah
im more ???ing at the fact that 1500 vs 1498 is a draw
rare junco
settings
stray sigil
how do ppl see shit playing with elvui
its so much stuff on the screen for no reason
blissful belfry
well, yes and no, you place what you want on your screen
If theres something you dont want, u just take it away
forest kite
i cant resize my action barssss
blissful belfry
Ima start playing blizz normal ui for when i get invited to blizz-con no add on tournament! 
forest kite
its so smallll
and u guys are saying "settings" like there isnt 200 categories
lmfao
blissful belfry
i cant resize my action barssss
Yes you can resize it, but your better off reading in a more specialized discord than druid pvp to figure out how to set up your ui
forest kite
ok
wicked edge
Is NF still any good for PVP?
fathom sage
So, was wondering if I could get some help. I’m having a lot of trouble keeping people up in 2s/3s as resto Druid. I played some disc last xpac, and basically it was shields+atonement for general mitigation then you have 4ish big defensives to pop for burst healing. I feel like with resto I’m having to pop tree form and chain cast regrowth and it still isn’t keeping people alive, so I feel like I’m just not playing the class correctly. When I play against other Resto they seem to be able to keep folks topped pretty easily. Not sure what I’m doing wrong and would love some help.
blissful belfry
they allow addons in tourny
o really? i had heard last year or smth that they practiced with no add ons for blizz con. i think it was cdew stream or smth
stray sigil
no im pretty sure u can use addons now
fathom sage
They use scripts no addons unless it was changed this year
blissful belfry
perhaps it has been modified, i remember it from like 2 years ago, theres anough time to make changes happen. I could also be 100% wrong
fathom sage
Cvars scripts and macros aren’t addons like “addons” basically they had to be able to run it server side so they could play on completely base comps at blizzcon
fathom sage
shit like sarena/gladius or omnibar
This would be the first year that’s true, last year they had to run scripts and script macros, no gladius or Omni allowed
blissful belfry
So i wasnt crazy
stray sigil
that sounds super wrong
considering there was no blizzcon last year
not sure what ur talking about naywyas
forest kite
ELVUI is fucking good but idk how to customize it
fathom sage
If you’ve ever wonder why cdews ui looks like garbage it’s because he had to custom move all his arena frames etc...
forest kite
im like 30 minutes just staring at the menu trying to make action bars bigger
fathom sage
Addons started being allowed for the first time on lan in March 2019, I googled it
forest kite
im literally crying rn
fathom sage
So last year first year (2020 was a wash for comp play)
forest kite
Dominos sux
forest kite
dominus made me redo all of my action bar from scratch
stray sigil
uh
fathom sage
perhaps it has been modified, i remember it from like 2 years ago, theres anough...
So you were correct, 2 years ago no addons
Until March
blissful belfry
ah kk
mighty yoke
what potency conduits are folks using for feral?
stray sigil
are u nf or kyrian
if ur kyrian u use tf and tfb
if ur nf u can use those or change the tf one for conflux
late stirrup
insignia or badge for boomie night fae
copper lintel
Db vs boat? Playing nf starting to think the consistent go with db more often beats the meme crit convoke
winter spindle
insignia or badge for boomie night fae
Depends how you want to play
Set up comps badge would be better, if you just want to pump constantly insignia would be better
I prefer insignia vs spell cleaves
late stirrup
Then maybe better that I buy insignia so in PvE i can get some other on use trink
winter spindle
I’ve got both in vault so swap between the two
I still haven’t got the Kyrian bell yet though 🥲
late stirrup
And I like insignia haste more since I go boat
rigid linden
Curious
Anyone here at 1400 or 1600 and blame your losses on your ilvl
Going to the forums on wow seems like this is always annissue
But I never seen or heard of it ever lmfao
rigid linden
Oof
Seems impossible to be hardstuck
U gotta be just shit enough to be 1600
Stuck at it
clear pulsar
Bro like it's basically the same as any game yeah!?
I mean
For there to be people in diamond
there must be plats, golds, silvers, etc
It's just the way of a ranked ladder
People aren't entitled to climbing, the idea of 'hardstuck' is silly
The term is just pointless
You aren't hardstuck, you are in the ladder where your skill puts you
rigid linden
Yeah I got humbled the fuck up on league
I was blaming team alot
Friend taught me to 1v10
Got diamond
Feelsgoodman
clear pulsar
Hurr durr hardstuck cant even get master
clear pulsar
It's a pretty silly type of thing to say idk
gloomy token
If you don't come out of every game wondering if there was at least one way you fucked up that you can fix for next game you're being an moran
rigid linden
Nope I'm perfect and my gear sucks.
blissful belfry
I always come out knowing what to do to fix the next game: Change my shit teamates
I have good introspection
rigid linden
Yeah I call myself trash everygame
gloomy token
Lmfao
rigid linden
Just self Bully yourself
clear pulsar
I kinda just wanna use Apex tbh
clear pulsar
Symm kinda garbanzo
rigid linden
I love sym
But I played curio on beta
And I felt like I was a shred machine
During zerk
And outside of it I was always chillingly
clear pulsar
So what I'm thinking is that Curio gives you a rly good opener if you just go Rake Shred Bite Shred Bite ye!? With Korayn for guaranteed Shred crits it's really strong and if you dont have Curio, those bites will be low energy
But then idk
Sometimes you get those back to back Bites with BT off an Apex proc
clear pulsar
kindred galleon
weak hinge
@fathom oxide the comp doesnt sound good to me. no
fathom oxide
😦
weak hinge
but just play and try urself. comp is overvalued on low rating
fathom oxide
we want to get 1,8
weak hinge
you can do that with the comp 100%
defensive play from ret and shadow can help out rdruid
fathom oxide
whats the weakness
weak hinge
ret getting kited
stray sigil
@clear pulsar noob
clear pulsar
Idk bro just
I wanna play BT ye!?
Like I wanna give it a good try and all
But I want that crit
So I either make Curio on neck or I make Curio crit vers
Or I can just upgrade my Apex that's already crit vers anyway, and is good for pve
The soul ash commitment is too big
devout phoenix
what's my general gameplan as balance druid?
I'm switching from warrior and I feel super lost right now
like when and how do I open? How do I prevent convoke from being kicked? how and when do I use my defensives and which ones am I supposed to use? I feel like I just get trained in arena and never have time to get any casts off
like I feel like I just sit in bear form while my teammates get to play the game
weak hinge
@devout phoenix oof. that's some basic questions. you should watch some gameplay. its hard to explain 😉
devout phoenix
Thanks, I watched some stuff this afternoon but the footage I watched, the balance druid was not the kill target
which was cool, incap into cyclone is a cool CC
clear pulsar
You don't have an opener so to speak ye!?
weak hinge
when you're the target go bear when they pressure you or your healer is in CC. usually balance druid is not the focus target tho because its very tanky
you can kite pretty well on some maps aswell
clear pulsar
Like druid has stealth but as a boomie you don't have stealth spells. If there's no one stealthie in the game, you don't really care for opening from stealth, just start blasting. The idea of arena is to just maintain the stuff you need to maintain (dots, eclipse) until you can get cross CC out, then you burst. Convoke rewards good practice, which is triple CC with stun on kill target = burst go go go.
teal hinge
@devout phoenix switching from warrior to boomkin? Yikes
clear pulsar
Bear form is very good, with Celestial Guardian talent you're super tanky, but you still need to do damage. Ideally you go bear form when your healer gets CCd, then after you get topped you come back out and blast.
devout phoenix
<@131194057647980545> switching from warrior to boomkin? Yikes
Yeah my raid team had 6 DPS and 3 of us were arms warriors LOL
crude minnow
Now you can pvp on your arms warrior like intended hehe
stray sigil
@clear pulsar ur gonna join the bt curio kyrian cult ?
devout phoenix
so I switched because I played Kyrian arms warrior and the other two played Venthyr
clear pulsar
Between cyclones, root+beam, bash if you want to play that, typhoon, incap roar, you can create a lot of space for yourself and for your team, both defensively and offensively.
crude minnow
Don't be so scared of interrupts that you never cast with someone near you. Just be ready to swap schools.
clear pulsar
@stray sigil I can't go kyrian bro it's soooo bad in pve, and like, it's not even this solid always there buff for pvp either, you face purge spammers and that shit goes away instantly.
devout phoenix
Swapping schools is something I'm not used to yet, yeah
clear pulsar
I played it for like 2 days and had it purged at least 3 times hello?
clear pulsar
are u mythic raider or pushgin 15s + ?
Pls dont start with this shit
Hurr durr you aren't top 50 world you don't need Convoke in pve
stray sigil
na u can clear ur pisslow content with any covenant
clear pulsar
No
Better players can
I cant
I need the help
It's deadass like 15% behind bro
It's maaaad unbalanced
And in practice it's even more behind
stray sigil
it literally says in ferals pin that they are all within 5%
blissful belfry
Whenever someone tells me he's hesitating between nf and kyrian as a druid. I tell him he can chose a relevent covenant for all specs and content. or he can be a goddamn loser
clear pulsar
stray sigil
that made no sense
but uve been spewing random crap all day in here
so im not surprise
stone nest
Yo can some tell me what a guardian that’s sitting is suppose to do in flag maps. I had a dude in one of my groups lose us a game cause he just couldn’t not get sap capped.
edgy shale
idk wat y'all were ven talking about tho lol
stray sigil
oh my last reply wasnt to face lol
was to that rando dude saying people are losers if they dont pick nf
edgy shale
naw y'all are BFFs for LIFE
stray sigil
u can sit 40yards so u dont get sappd capped yes
a rogue cant solo cap a guard druid i dont think
if u dont get sapped
u sit 40 yards he cant bomb thats not enough time to cap
gloomy token
Did this bear sit in bear form on the point or something
stray sigil
so just sit 40 yards and spam moonfire
stone nest
I mean I thought it was that easy too but what do I know
gloomy token
Did he forget to stealth lmao
stray sigil
if he defends vs rogue boomy
thats a different story however
but vs solo rogue should not get capped
clear pulsar
For my character in sims it's around 13.5% behind last I checked.
In each of the raid fights, #1 kyrian is 1700, 3100, 2900, 1400, 1800, 1700, 1000, 2600, 2100, and 2000 dps behind the #1 night fae in order. @stray sigil
safe wind
Yo can some tell me what a guardian that’s sitting is suppose to do in flag maps...
You sit in stealth and wait for them to start capping
gloomy token
Rogue boomy is horseshit
stone nest
I thought so
clear pulsar
Yeah be 40yd away in stealth
clear pulsar
You're gonna get free sapped every single time if you stand on top of flag in stealth bro lmao everyone just spams stealth sap macro
stray sigil
ur 40 yards
edgy shale
if u sit right on the flag its mad easy to take u out of stealth or get hit with some bull shit
stray sigil
and u spam moonfire
gloomy token
40yd in stealth is to stop him from blind cap
stone nest
Yeah idk that’s what I said for him to do
stray sigil
and kidney cap
clear pulsar
idk what this 40 yards stuff is
If you're not familiar with US lingo, 40 yards is around 35 meters.
forest kite
I like legacy of sleeper . So at least u got 30 sec buffer in case rogue catches u
stray sigil
there also that but rogue can just vanish and wait out the 30s
clear pulsar
Yeah but fucken 30s if enough for someone to come, surely
Or you just go back in stealth too ofc
gloomy token
T r u
stone nest
Yeah I tell my tanks to let us know the second they see anyone and we try to get there. Never a problem really unless it’s a crappy tank.
placid mirage
Man thorns in solar eclipse pumps
stone nest
Also about 50% of my dhs are high as balls and can do it just fine.
edgy shale
I had better base sitters at 1400 rating than I do now
edgy shale
lool
no, i swear to god. a vengeance DH sitter kept getting his shit stolen byn a solo boomy
placid mirage
Base sit is good life just watch movie get free cr
edgy shale
and our rogue sitter kept getting capped by a solo hunter or some shit
we won mid, i looked up and enemy had 4 bases
chrome panther
survi hunter is no joke for solo roam tbh
edgy shale
fair, but over a rogue?
placid mirage
Gotta find a surv player first kekw
edgy shale
rogue is the 1 class that prob has no right to get capped on unless 2+
tardy hare
Dh easy af to cap on tho
tardy hare
They are dum
chrome panther
the rarest spec ingame
placid mirage
Why dh so ez
edgy shale
yea thats fair
placid mirage
Compared to like guard or smth
placid mirage
So you moonfire and then incarn?
tardy hare
Dominance
gloomy token
That's fucking his dad levels of asserting dominance
placid mirage
If ur base sitting as guard what aff
I see balance range is good right
Make your thrash and swipe a wide boi
tardy hare
Aff is irrelevant
placid mirage
Play bash usually also?
tardy hare
I just press thrash
clever bluff
ahhh nothing like getting off a full convoke with saltwater+zerker+bells etc etc..super JUICY
tardy hare
Ye
stray sigil
vortex is so insanely good
clever bluff
team wipe
placid mirage
I'm pepega boomie rn at like almost 2.3k
tardy hare
Dont think i have vortex bound as guardian xd
placid mirage
Trying to upgrade some brain cells
tardy hare
Guardian isn't an upgrade m8
stray sigil
placid mirage
Ya but I want to be able to offspec it
clear pulsar
Can you play multiple tanks in rbgs?
stray sigil
i dont think theres a single map other than fc maps where u would guardian over boomy
u can
tardy hare
Can you play multiple tanks in rbgs?
Ye
clear pulsar
Now hear me out
tardy hare
i dont think theres a single map other than fc maps where u would guardian over ...
I guardian base maps
tardy hare
Xd
gloomy token
That's like 10 boomies but they do even less when convoke is down
clear pulsar
No no
stray sigil
ya i mean if u dont play boomy
tardy hare
I can play boomy
stray sigil
just play guardian on base maps
tardy hare
I have elite boomy wep
gloomy token
Ok you win the teamfight
stray sigil
but boomy prob sits just as well as guardian
gloomy token
Then they res
tardy hare
But guardian just more brainafk easy gg
stray sigil
so its w.e
gloomy token
Then what
clear pulsar
Ok you win the teamfight
You dont have to use all convokes at once
tardy hare
Wtf is that kind of question
stray sigil
grtz u are now 2800 in rbgs as a boomy
foggy ravine
Ah
stray sigil
u can aura mastery incarn convoke
edgy shale
facts
placid mirage
My pally never asks me
stray sigil
24k bite on sp
edgy shale
ppl do think for some reason that if u get a full convoke off you'll just solo wipe a team lol
stray sigil
tardy hare
Where do u guys usually convoke in teamfight
Whenever the fuck i can
edgy shale
I've gotten the most value on convoke by standing far back as fuck and just blowing up the dumbass melee who dive in
otherwies the damage is too spread
also the ranged arne't clos enuif to interrupt
placid mirage
Yeah same usually
edgy shale
but obv u can destroy healers / fights in general w/ it
tardy hare
I see the button off cd
gloomy token
Idk man I've seen lmao2convoke delete enough people that you win the fight with dark arch
placid mirage
Unless ret is like wow me cool me bubble
edgy shale
convoke def can win a team fight, or it sends a surge at 5 diff people
and it gets instahealed and its like ok
placid mirage
Dang u get 5 surges I get 5 wrath
gloomy token
I see convoke i press meld
placid mirage
I think grounding totem should be banned from the game
gloomy token
Some other idiot dies
placid mirage
Gottem
foggy ravine
Los everyone except one target then one deag them ofc
placid mirage
How u los everyone except one target in 8v8
gloomy token
With giga math brain
surreal loom
Natural Order's Will or Legacy of the Sleeper for flag carrying as guardian?
Ive also seen people taking the Thrash legendary
but I doubt that's actually good; since you die in CC; you aren't gonna be able to hit thrash
edgy shale
thrash leggo, run into their backline, spam thrash, W
surreal loom
? Run into backline? You ain't carrying flag into enemy team
edgy shale
but jokes aside, sleeper makes guardian the best FC in the game
now makes u omega tanky but, i'd 100% run sleeper
surreal loom
Hm, now is also good as Feral against rogue/mage lineups so it would serve two purposes
edgy shale
facts
clear pulsar
This guy had 'write something on note for me to read' I wrote 'pineapple doesnt belong on pizza'
tepid spoke
edgy shale
stray sigil
but...
somber yew
i have a 197 wep. should i buy the conq wep or a few armor pieces that dont have vers
forest kite
Hey team, I got a rogue and mage on me. Guys fc is on his own, we should prob help him. Pops sleeper, runs away. Good save guys
dusty cape
clear pulsar
Well honed, innate resolve, NS cdr
Conflux is fine if you want more dam
I've seen a few run the clearcast regrowth one
junior ingot
Is getting apex craving on shoulders better than waist? And for what reasons as nf feral
edgy shale
do u mean pvp or pve?
junior ingot
Pvp
forest kite
Can anyone please help me work out why my starsurges are hitting 10k on crit if I'm lucky in pvp, yet others are often hitting us for 15-19k in arena? https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ragnaros/gulp
I have 30% vers and pvp trinket combo and 216 iLevel so I don't get it and feeling pretty meh about it. Thanks in advance if you have feedback
extra note: other players are night fae also and running balance of all things and still critting for far higher than my crits with Timeworn Dreambinder
crude minnow
Convoke surges are amped. Are you doing your surges in a way where you do 5-6 in a row?
forest kite
Yeah, not typically spending if not 100 astral and using fury of elune to get more out in windows
In case conduits are huge or something:
vast vapor
its basicly mastery what matters because it doubledips from incarn
- if they play with a spec that amps their dmg
forest kite
So I've been stacking Vers > Haste, should this be vers > mastery for pvp?
We had a Balance Rdruid so no buff from teammate as far as I'm aware
vast vapor
not really but if the only thing you care about is surge dmg then yes
forest kite
He hit double 19k starsurges during convoke and killed healer instantly
vast vapor
and your convoke does only 10k?
forest kite
I checked for whole night and my highest hit during the whole night was 12k. vast vast majority about 9.7 being optimistic
vast vapor
theres a couple of options, most likely enemies are playing pve trinkets like bell or are just generally already 10ilvl higher than u too
but you only have 15% mastery while I for example have 28% in my pvp gear
forest kite
One guys was 9 iLevels above which I get means more, but surely not double damage more right?
vast vapor
thats like 28% more dmg to surge
vast vapor
with bell im close to 60% mastery and just do 20k surges all day
yeah its big for incarn bursts
or CA whatever u play
forest kite
I assumed 30% vers + 40% trinket bonus would account for that sorta amounts though
vast vapor
yeah vers is not even close to mastery in incarn damagewise
but you'll do every other thing better with hastevers
forest kite
Actually a brewmaster main of all things so not crazy familier with some stuff, which trinket is the bell sorry?
It's so disappointing doing 3-4k hits during burst window
vast vapor
its a world quest trinket called Instructor's Divine Bell giving over 600 mastery for 9sec 1,5min cd
forest kite
Rets literally hit double that with auto attacks so I'm def doing something wrong 
foggy ravine
Chug are you only surging in eclipse or incarn also
forest kite
Mostly try to save and spend in one string during root beam
foggy ravine
Cuz I mean I’m 222 but if I surge outside of eclipse non crit it’s gonna be like 5-6k
vast vapor
not sure how he wouldlve played multiple games without surging in incarn lol
forest kite
Reading this there is maybe periods where I have done that not in eclipse through being a noob but mostly in eclipse or incarn ye
vast vapor
actually yeah that matters quite a lot too there, you are playing dreamweaver instead of niya
read what the niya's first conduit does
foggy ravine
Yup that’s definitely it
forest kite
Extra 10% damage above 75% hp iirc?
vast vapor
nope
foggy ravine
450mast
vast vapor
mastery from convoke cast
forest kite
Flying to covenant place now 😛
Thank you so much for the help all ❤️
If anyone is happy to link amoury I'd appreciate double checking others and how they gearing etc
foggy ravine
Honesty haste or mastery work it’s just preference really I think
My gear isn’t optimized so I’m like a perfect split mast/haste
With vers way above all else
forest kite
I just feel so lackluster during burst windows at the moment, can set up, play defensive etc well enough but find securing kills comes in high dampening or once I've run through their trinkets/cds and chained 6 surges rather than get yuuge crits like I see others do 😛
Will try shift some stats more to Vers/Mastery too
foggy ravine
I play kyrian personally cuz I like the more consistent damage every minute
But to each their own convoke works and obviously wrecks face
forest kite
Yeah I was then came back when they fixed cyclone soaking convoke
Now I'm considering Kyrian again for larger bursts
vast vapor
yeah and convoke just makes your burst windows stronger every 3min even if it gets kicked
than kyrian would
foggy ravine
Ya for sure
Kyrian is a smaller more frequent mastery buff
Convoke is yuge mastery
forest kite
Ah I see, so convoke is even better burst even if kicked
vast vapor
yes you can still surge after it
forest kite
Will give it a good shot first and see how it goes
foggy ravine
Ya after convoke you are still deadly for another like 15s lol
Usually after you’ve gotten some defensive or another from the convoke
forest kite
Dude
I felt so disheartened tonight after all of that, you all have made me feel a lot better thanks 😂
fathom sage
Most teams I’ve seen convoke after first round of defensives so it’s usually like a big CD or kill
vast vapor
thats also how balance feels in arena anyway
forest kite
Lol
little temple
Are you guys playing NF or Kyrian on your pvp boomers?
forest kite
So as Niya are you guys aiming for double endurance slot for Well-honed + Innate?
forest kite
Is fury good?
vast vapor
well its extra percentage for your burst :D
forest kite
True, everything counts at this point
fathom sage
Like, save convoke for enemy team reset after orbital laser and normal burst makes them use defensives, since they’ll usually try and kite out a reset since they are scared, bait out a kick with some clones on a OT, then convoke the next disengage while they try and kite out since you can follow
vast vapor
not the toppest tier but does fine for 2,1k with many dps or healer spec
fathom sage
Plenty (well some) rogue/Druid up to 2.1+
vast vapor
I've played with sp, mage, disci and hpriest to 2.1 this season
sp is the most fun times
forest kite
Preferring root beam or mighty bash for stopping combust? 🙂
forest kite
Oh
fathom sage
R/M “wat do if steath offheals”
forest kite
junior plover
You dont need to root beam
just beam
If youre in range of bash def bash but otherwise dont fucking run towards them for 2s to bash
just beam
forest kite
At 1950ish mmr finding they don't deal with root beam much but I assume that is misplay as normal blink and night fae removes right?
junior plover
Can they even soulshape in silence?
pretty sure not
theres only 2 ways of dealing with it
teammate dispells it
or trinket the roots
for most specs anyway
FUCK THE BOT IS SMART
sniped my r* word
unless druids can shapeshift in silence and im literally 20 iq
forest kite
Was fairly sure I've seen them soul shape it in rogue mage comps
sick monolith
yes to both
forest kite
But I could be wrong
sick monolith
you can fae and shapeshit
unkempt rose
rip offense
woeful burrow
Anyone playing guardian druid RBG?
primal bane
whats the struggle with alliance players not being subhuman dogs in RBGs
junior plover
whats the struggle with alliance players not being subhuman dogs in RBGs
this only works until you realize that half of alliance is actually horde players
in disguises
clear pulsar
I win like 80% of my random bgs
Maybe your alliance is just worse than my alliance tho
junior plover
I literally 2v7 capped a flag today
You cant lose a rbg if youre high rated
unless you really try
gear diff is too big
round jetty
What do you guys think about new moon VS solstice VS fury of Élune for RBg ?
edgy shale
the fat honor quest tho
edgy shale
o is that actually the strats?
thats my new alt strat 100%
lol yea its pretty scum just cuz u deny ur team a vehicle but whatever
haughty compass
People who feral healer, you generally tunnel heals?
edgy shale
oh lol i guess that makes it a bit better
smoky hamlet
Anyone using medallion and relentless together ?
fleet raptor
What’s best guardian lego for rbgs?
foggy ravine
sleeper
cant use medallion and relentless together
you can equip device and relentless though
fleet raptor
Is that pretty much the guardian pvp go to overall?
Not sure if guardian is even viable in arena tbh
junior plover
People who feral healer, you generally tunnel heals?
Yeah
Often pressure healer even if dps ends up being kill target
Because my disc usually ends up dealing damage as he self peels
So enemy healer has to split heals
Altho vs like rogue or caster you generally just sit on them
rich crag
good ness i love feral now with barskin leggo and a bunch of endurance and strength of the wild pretty amazing FC spec lol
surreal loom
Just play guardian and REALLY be good at FC
junior plover
How will he take the Feline Swiftness talent on the Feral tree if he goes Guardian 
mortal orbit
I've been playing venthyr guardian for RBGs and across the past week I've lost 2 skirmishes, won maybe 15. It's definitely viable currently
I can't speak on rated arena but pretty strong for RBGs
mortal orbit
Venthyr's ability is insane for guardian. I was playing around in a regular bg earlier and got to 74% haste with lust up
Plus nearly 40% increased damage and healing
junior plover
mortal orbit
Only downside is that you're limiting yourself to playing pvp guardian. You don't have convoke so off-specs are crippled, but I definitely prefer venthyr bear to night fae bear. For 20 seconds you become this absolute monster
junior plover
venthyr druid
guardian arenas
Real talk tho
What does guardian do in an arena
How do you ever do anything
To impact the game
mortal orbit
I'm doing 9k crits on maul
junior plover
junior plover
Not anymore they don't
tiny oar
junior plover
tropic schooner
was that recently fixed
tropic schooner
it is for balance
junior plover
It's just gone from convoke
Oh
Well I'm assuming
It's also gone for guardian hotw
tropic schooner
guardian spec, owlvoke still blasts people with full moon
junior plover
tiny oar
I love dropping planets on ppl
primal bane
im playing RBG on my 130 fresh shammy
my agency is the bottom
but its not like
it would be too different on boomie
its more fun but when there are 40 players vs 40 players
your actions dont really matter
tiny oar
im playing RBG on my 130 fresh shammy
Nice fam wish I was 130
primal bane
really?
clear pulsar
https://clips.twitch.tv/BelovedFrozenHyenaYouDontSay
Thats from last week
tropic schooner
kick was on CD, and the plate addon displayed it as uninterruptable but the group ui showed it correctly. UI anomaly
tiny oar
hes just going full dh
Never go full dh man
primal bane
legit every brainlet that hit lvl 60 and 200 ilvl fucking wastes his time camping my alt
these ppl are patethic
edgy shale
bro, turn war mode off
primal bane
i did now
for my alt
it was unbearable
idk how u hit a lava surge for 80% of someone's life unbuffed
and think "yeah this is fun, ill do thsi for 30 more minutes while im here"
edgy shale
i like WM on, but if i start getting annoyed ij ust turn it off. i dont let myself get camped like a crazy person
topaz spruce
"Convoke the Spirits (Night Fae Ability) will no longer attempt to cast on nearby enemies in a different phase from the Druid." what does this even mean? Like can't incarn + convoke out of stealth?
primal bane
think its safe to say druid ruined other classes for me
so mobile, immune to roots and poly, unlimited self heals, unlimited CC
and stealth on top of it all
tiny oar
edgy shale
yeah druid is really fun, we do pay for all that in our "power budget" tho so
other classes can pack more of a punch in other ways
primal bane
well shaman made me realize
that his burst is not as instant as i thought
because if you forget to wall yourself in these 1v1 situations
if you dont ocompeltely 1 shot the opp you will die
so u gotta do like 7-8 things before you actually hit him
also offtopic a horde druid CAvoked a guy in the maw and i immediately CAvoked him aswell
rich crag
I found the burst by ele to be gimmicky and honestly it's simply "not fun" to try and set up those conditions to burst someone down. (stormkeeper, skyfury totem, etc)
primal bane
i get what ur saying its a bit slow
and not always do you get to burst as soon as those conditions are met
and you started getting under pressure with these 15 seconds buff and needing to use them at some point
but shammy has a ton of fun shit like lasso and fat crits that make it worth it for me
will take sometime till i gear him tho
placid mirage
guys I currently have interact on mouseover bound to mousewheel but is there a better macro for returning flag
thx
vast vapor
probably would have to abuse something like autohotkey if u wanted to minmax it
stray sigil
@tiny oar why are u lurking in feral u dirty rdru player
tiny oar
<@!237412116024393728> why are u lurking in feral u dirty rdru player
Rdruid feral what's the difference rly man
U both press maim bite win ez
@stray sigil LI draught fix necro gang on the rise