pvp

[junior plover]

Wat

I'm extremely confused now, surely must've been a thing in the beta at least

[thorny venture]

TF is applied if it's not up, so if you somehow got a FF on your first spell the next would've been TF.

[junior plover]

Yeah TF is pretty clear to me

I thought berserk was in the pool of ultimate abilities for some reason

[thorny venture]

nope, it's FF for cat form

[junior plover]

Never noticed getting one but I must've read it somewhere

Huh

[naive ocean]

does anyone ever encounter arena players who loathe rbg players for getting cr? feels like theres alot of rbg elitism or maybe thats just the circles in hang around in

[junior plover]

Sorry to say they're right

Nah play whatever you want but we'll always meme about rbg

[edgy shale]

RBGs are disgustingly much easier to get rating, that's why

[junior plover]

It's just not comparable to arenas

[chrome panther]

Cuz rbg is inflated to fuck and 2500 mmr is filled with 1500 skill level players.

Nothing is worse than these rbg queens thinking they're anything but pure garbage for getting elite with a negative win/loss

[junior plover]

I mean it makes sense, the games take 5x longer than arenas and give out 5x the rating

[thorny venture]

eh, not even that

a lot of people get 10 points an RBG win

20 is considered good

[junior plover]

Why's the pool so inflated then

[thorny venture]

cause MMR goes up faster than CR

so you get 15 a win, but don't lose any on a loss

[junior plover]

Ah

Yeah the mmr system in this game

[chrome panther]

Also a metric fuck load of pve kids doing it for the gear.

[junior plover]

Idk influx of pve players in arena actually made it harder to climb

[chrome panther]

Every heroic/mythic guild has 2 rbg teams

[junior plover]

Or so reddit says anyway

I can't relate

[rich crag]

Do you guys always take brutal slash? Sometimes I feel like it's OK to take primal wrath since umm, well I can spam thrash in bear form at least in regular bgs... Maybe I am just dumb lol

[junior plover]

I would never for even a second consider pw in arena

I struggle to find a good use in bg

[thorny venture]

haha, 90% of all pvp'ers are below 1700 in 2s and 3s

[junior plover]

Ye it's funny

[thorny venture]

I just want one freaking bg win

this is soulcrushing losing over and over to horde premades

[hardy cargo]

Man do I feel that. Have some alts that I want to gear via pvp and like to do it with some friends. We proceed to go against 5 premades in a row with like 200+ ilvl(in NORMAL bgs. Not rated.)

[thorny venture]

doesn't feel good to do that

not after spending years raging at botters ruining bgs

[hardy cargo]

Yea but I'd like to play the game to have some fun(like with friends) only to have to afk every game due to premades

[thorny venture]

I'm at the point on my shaman alt that all my gear is 197, I'm just replacing same ilvl covenant gear with no verse with pvp stuff that has some

[crisp anchor]

LOL so boomkin doesnt get cyclone until lvl 48??

so basically its trash in lower level pvp until then

[thorny venture]

need wins to actually improve my dps

what do you need cc before then for, it's kill or be killed below cap

[crisp anchor]

cant even cc a healer outside of rootbeam or bash

[thorny venture]

so the Venthyr covenant set's primary stat bonus does work in pvp, that'll make it even harder to replace cause that's 80 agility haha

HALF of all people with more than 50 games in arenas are below 1400

[quaint rapids]

when you join an RBG

half the team doesn't even have 30k hp

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-we-out-peace-out-disappear-gif-15464202

[thorny venture]

that' yolo

[gloomy token]

balance convoke intensifies

[quaint rapids]

playing boomie

nah, im obligated to not play fotm

[gloomy token]

You haven't come across roaming gangs of 10 boomy rbg stacks

[quaint rapids]

just kick convoke

||:^)||

[gloomy token]

:^^)

[quaint rapids]

im a shitter so can't really say much

still trying to climb in 2s

i blame having a 200 ilvl weapon

and monks

[gloomy token]

I got carried by a boomy guildie to 1600 as a noob disc then pushed with an afflock to 1800

[quaint rapids]

i can't figure out monks

[gloomy token]

Disc aff is pure filth

[quaint rapids]

aff is filthy

[gloomy token]

Mass entangle their clones and xuen

[quaint rapids]

🤔

gonna have to try that

u lose bash but

maim

[gloomy token]

maim but unironically

If you stop the monks go you're probably golden

[quaint rapids]

yeah

[thorny venture]

aff is apparently not that good once you're away from the pleb ranks

[wanton ridge]

Master shapeshifter bug seems to be fixed as of today

[quaint rapids]

basically if one of us doesn't die to the monk

we win

[gloomy token]

Well having ua and mindgames on the healer gives them an impossible choice

[quaint rapids]

mindgames is so dirty

[gloomy token]

Dispel it and die, or don't and also die

[quaint rapids]

oh..noo

that's so bad

[wanton ridge]

Played a lot of games with it tonight and the buff never fall off, tried on target dummy and it didn't fall of and the +% bleed damage buff worked like the tooltip says. Wasn't working yesterday 😄

[gloomy token]

It's pure filth, their only hope is dispel and pray they live 1 global

[azure kernel]

why does boomy in 2s feel so awful to play

[quaint rapids]

imo boomy feels horrible in arena period

it;s just popular right now because convoke is nuts

[gloomy token]

And if convoke fails you always have ca + 3x starsurge as followup

[azure kernel]

and then they live with 20% and u have nothing to finish them off

[radiant rain]

where does the conduit for conflux of elements drop?

[gloomy token]

Callings and world bosses

[radiant rain]

anyone having any success with their resto

been playing mostly boomie nowadays

[quaint rapids]

if you're resto

play with afflock

and then just run like a bitch

they can't catch you cuz of perma slow

[radiant rain]

sounds like a plan

last i tried a month ago

struggled to heal through the burst

wonder if its better now that gear is better

[quaint rapids]

verse

[crisp anchor]

Leveling a druid and low level druid pvp has been one of the most unenjoyable wow experiences ive ever had
And I play all casters
Does it get any better at max level?

[vagrant plume]

can u own 2 of the same pvp ring

[quaint rapids]

feral at max is fun imo

[thorny venture]

no, rings are unique

[quaint rapids]

no

[late mural]

any know how i jumped from 1300 rating in rbg to 1655 in match?

1 match*

[vagrant plume]

Damn.....

[stray sigil]

u didnt

prob didnt pay attention

cuz u get max 192 per win

until like 1600

[late mural]

what happened then cuz I got both 1500 and 1600 rating at the same time

lol

oh okay

[radiant rain]

ur probably a beast

[thorny venture]

you were probably 1398 or something

[late mural]

no im pvp newb which is why i was asking

[thorny venture]

or rather 1498 and just missed you being over 1400

[late mural]

that would make sense

[thorny venture]

totally possible to go from 1300 to 1600 in a couple games

[late mural]

how did my brother who was in the same game only get like 10 rating? and I jumped him

[thorny venture]

his MMR is much lower

you have a fresh mmr so it moved faster

[late mural]

i see

it was just confusing to me cuz i got 10 win, knight, and sergeant major achievements in 1 game

[thorny venture]

that can happen

[hoary ledge]

MMR can get inflated super fast in RBG

[thorny venture]

but yeah, looking at how deflated rating is in pvp and knowing that 90% of all people are under 1700 in NA also knowing the ilvl is totally random in that 90%, it just makes me feel really defeated on any of my alts.

[slim crater]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/barthilas/jofzar last week at 2100 (tanking it to start selling carries) I have enough for boots or ring/trinket. Which one you think?

[crisp anchor]

I hope its better at 60 because balance feels like absolute dog at lower level pvp. get 1 shot by any class through defensives

[slim crater]

@crisp anchor balance is one of the most tanky classes right now

[echo crescent]

i wish feral was half tanky

like old days

[crisp anchor]

at 60 sure, but not in lower level pvp

[slim crater]

Yeah that's what I'm answering

[late mural]

just started pvping last week, it says im 3225/4400 conquest does that mean I cant earn more than 4400 until the cap is increased again?

[crisp anchor]

maybe it has to do with max level players smurfing in low level pvp? I check their armories and they are lvl 60 but im lvl 48

every opponent in my random bgs at lvl 48 has 4k more hp than me

[surreal loom]

on use trinket over medallion for first upgrade right

[stone breach]

yes

[late mural]

interesting, wow that really is a catch up if you limit people like that lol

[stone breach]

cap increases weekly by 550

[slim crater]

@late mural that number is the total amount this season

[late mural]

gotcha

[slim crater]

It increases every week by 550

[late mural]

thank you

[slim crater]

Np

@surreal loom I would say gear is better then anything else imo

[surreal loom]

I'm already 226 all around basically

[slim crater]

Trinkets are a trap

Haha, your in the same place as me

[stone breach]

pvp trinket upgrade is least impactful, if thats the question

[slim crater]

Yes, on use before trinket

I have no idea what to get next ffs.

My heart tells me boots, my gut tells me ring/trinket

[lusty locust]

medaillon give a tons of intel tho

probably best to upgrade medaillon than wrists/belts

[slim crater]

Nah belts/wrists give into and stam

[lusty locust]

it does not give stam tho

[slim crater]

Can't undersell stam

[thorny venture]

I need to upgrade my BOAT finally I guess

[analog mural]

@gloomy token comes with feet pics?

[slim crater]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/barthilas/jofzar I'm going on use trinket next I think.

I have enough verse and health

More burst would be nice

[lusty locust]

Idk this week I can upgrade BOAT to 225 or craft Natural order's will210

I'm considering the 2nd option

[slim crater]

@lusty locust imo skip 225 and got to 235

[lusty locust]

I wont have enough for 235

gold aren't an issue anyway

[open orbit]

hey resto dudus how do you deal with holy priest cc immunity?

play cat or bear? cat stun into bash? bash into incap?

[tiny oar]

cry a little cuz they play adapt ward greater fade

by the time u clone it ward is back up

lol

[sudden blade]

would you guys run 207ilvl weapon with 80 vers/30mastery , or 213 80crit/30 mastery weapon ? Feral pvp

[queen copper]

still feral frenzies???

[vast vapor]

is dreadfire vessel good in pvp

yeah only seen rogues using it

my healer died literally under 1sec on rm opener in 2s when the vessel critted 12k

feels not so useful especially on night fae druids

kinda tempted to take it as 233 from vault still tho :b

[stable otter]

is it possible to get to like 1600+ without the feral legendary

i main boomie but would rather focus boat

[edgy shale]

do u mean sym? or literally any feral leggo

[vast vapor]

it is for sure

[stable otter]

yeah sym but really any

[rigid linden]

Horde feral probs get like 210 ilvl this week

Hype Bois

Main feral pretty much all 226 lmfao

[edgy shale]

do u run NF for both?

[rigid linden]

Yeo

Kyrian was boring

I swapped off it

On horde

[stray sigil]

bt kyrian > convoke any day

[dapper parrot]

for boomy rbgs, are we running sotf and sd?

[thorny venture]

I'm trying Starlord and Twin Moons

doing my best to burst healers

[crude minnow]

Neither sotf or sd. Dot, cc, surge, win

[thorny venture]

1250 anima from rbgs today

got lucky and a 2100 group took my 1850 boomie bum, went 4-3, up 80 rating

[slim crater]

@thorny venture nice

[thorny venture]

still so far away from 2100 and 226 on a bunch of slots

[slim crater]

On use trinket/ring/boots which one?

all 196 im 2100 atm

[snow quarry]

how do you get 207/213 pvp conduits?

[slim crater]

One of them doesnt exist

i think its 220?

You just hit the breakpoints and just buy em

[severe viper]

NF or Kyrian if i only play RBGs?

[slim crater]

NF

Boomy?

[severe viper]

Yea sorry

[slim crater]

Yeah NF

best rbg spec

[severe viper]

What if you dont have hpal doesn't it just get insta kicked or nah

[slim crater]

in rbg?

Like never

just be at the back

dont over think convoke it slaps

[severe viper]

Nah i know it slaps just when i do rbgs on my rogue someone always puts enemy boomy on focus

Thought kyrian might be more reliable

[slim crater]

In rbg you don't want reliable

[severe viper]

It wouldn't be better to just be able to dump into the tc's call?

[slim crater]

for defending/capping points extreme instant damage is what you want

for killing enemy FC you also want it also

idk man my experience is its just way way better

[severe viper]

Yea was just curious thats all

[lusty locust]

Incarn + TM + New Moon, unless it's a flag BG then you'd better go for Fury.

Or if you have no clue on how to use moon, go Fury as well

[slim crater]

is there something to FM?

other then just casting it to get more damage?

[lusty locust]

nan just cast it in eclipse that's all

[slim crater]

thought so

[lusty locust]

but if you cast it on a weak target you can mostly OS with Moon + Surge

[slim crater]

yeah pretty simple, use it then dumbp

[lusty locust]

But don't go FM on flag bg

it's a giga bait

you need that fury for extrem out numbered attack squad

[slim crater]

Yeah

[lusty locust]

like when you are 3v5 or 3v6 going int oattack FM is litterally dead talent you just want to pop incarn fury double surge

[slim crater]

I used to go soltice

but realised its a rot trap

[lusty locust]

ye rot isn't working well these day in bg

[surreal loom]

solstice gives more ap

[lusty locust]

maybe in some specific composition

ye for the AP would make sense

but fury give a "on demand" 40AP and FM is so fun to play

[vapid crane]

If you pop fury and then pop incsarn convoke on the next GCD you are doing a lot more dam than if you had solstice

On the prio target of course

[slim crater]

Everything is always prio target lmao

[lusty locust]

Sol gives a lot of priority damage because you have so many dots you really get a bunch of AP every eclipse

but FM is better for short unpredictable burst window on target called

I take fury only when it's flag BG or if I know I will be playing 2v2 or 3v3 around

like Azerite map

[slim crater]

Rethinking my BGT ui

https://i.imgur.com/XZ6C8wP.png

Think it will be better this way

[forest kite]

mmmmmmmmm I'm in the worst dilemma

I just got both on use trinket and proc trinket from the vault, and I don't know which one I should pick, the one with haste and proc or the on use with the crit

what do you guys think? for resto druid pvp

[severe viper]

@slim crater you use boat lego?

[slim crater]

Yep

[formal sparrow]

Coming from the point of 'UFR is overall better'; If you had UFR and NoW rank 4, what fights (if any) would you use NOW on?

[slim crater]

@forest kite sadly neither

[forest kite]

I already have BM

I should've specified it

[slim crater]

I would be going for BM > proc > on use

Ah

proc I think

[forest kite]

In the rare occasion where I don't need bm xd

[slim crater]

but idk man , has to be a weird setup

[forest kite]

I'm playing a weird set up tbf

with friends

ret boomy rdruid

we're 2300 atm

[edgy shale]

2 of those ain't weird

the other 1 is lol

[ionic ingot]

what do u guys think of the pvp tuning. Just had a discussion with my guildies. topics were no rogue nerfs although oneshot potencial and druid convoke is kickable and random

[tardy hare]

rogue kinda sucks

compared to the others

[reef sapphire]

NF boomy: pvp staff (haste) or 1h mace + OH (mastery) can't decide

[tardy hare]

rogeu is very fine atm

[surreal loom]

pvp staff

100%

haste is good for boomie in pvp because faster clones

[tulip falcon]

rogue doesn't need any nerfs

[ionic ingot]

are the druid nerfs justified thou?

[tulip falcon]

it wasn't really a nerf

[edgy shale]

druid barely got touched

[tulip falcon]

nothing really changed

[tardy hare]

what nerfs

[edgy shale]

now im just running the full moon talent to get my full moon fix

[tardy hare]

boomy convoke proccing full moon was HELLA stupid

[tulip falcon]

even if nf got nerfed to the ground they'd still be strong with kyrian anyway 🙄

[ionic ingot]

yeah that u can't get a fullmoon prog during convoke

[tardy hare]

yeah that's a VERY

deserved nerf

or change

[tardy hare]

cause you're still gonna onebang shit

[patent idol]

finally bois finally

[tardy hare]

cause starsurge hits the same

[patent idol]

i was with 197 wep too long

[edgy shale]

[tulip falcon]

i've had like legit all the right vault gear every week i feel blessed after bfa

[patent idol]

cant say the sam

i had max lvl 4 rings

in a row

4 weeks 🙂

[tulip falcon]

i didnt get wep but other than that its fine

moving on up

[tardy hare]

same

got boomy wep on main this week

should be able to buy trinket and ring aswell with conquest

should easily go 223 ilvl

[tulip falcon]

i need to upgrade my feral lego to 235 still

[tardy hare]

f

[edgy shale]

wat did u get krassz? believe it or not but i didn't have ur gear memorized lol

[tulip falcon]

was just screenshotting the ilvl but ye

gloves

[tardy hare]

got chest on alt feral

huge pog

[edgy shale]

i know, im just wondering and being sassy at the same time. and nice

[tulip falcon]

before the honor ilvl upgrade i was like 205

felt so gimped

i hope next season they let us upgrade faster

i also bought 2 conduits so i guess i could've had another item

[fervent imp]

Yep it’s 400 so almost a neck

[clear pulsar]

Why 2

Thats soooo fried

[edgy shale]

which 2

[tulip falcon]

i bought savage combatant for the meme to see how much dmg i would do as guardian

and tfb obviously

[clear pulsar]

[tulip falcon]

wasting conquest is cool

i was curious

[clear pulsar]

Fucking guardian conduit

[muted moth]

got 1-hander in vault, should i take it and buy offhand? or is it better with 2-hander for balance?

[tulip falcon]

well i bought the condi because i was forced to play it every game early season

now i'm bored af of it and refusing to play it when i don't have to

[tardy hare]

1h is big conquest save

[tepid spoke]

im actually so sad

i bought 1h week 3

and i got staff today

gg

[tulip falcon]

was always worried about that

buying wep then getting in vault week after or some shit

[tardy hare]

idk week 3 is a long time ago

plenty of time to abuse bigger wep

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tulip falcon]

yea it could be worse

[clear pulsar]

It's 100% better to get a weapon repeat a week or 2 after you buy it

Than gamble for 2 months and not get it

Absolutely brother

[tulip falcon]

ye ofc

wouldn't stop me buying it but i just had a bad gut feeling it would happen

didn't happen though

[clear pulsar]

I had shitty vaults

Had to take m+ reward once cuz pvp was relent and adap, and then again when itwas a 216 wep

I could be fully 226 by now

[tulip falcon]

oh yea actually i forgot

i wasted a vault week because i thought i was going to PvE only

at the start

and chose a pve item with shit ilvl

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

Same same

I mean I didnt think I'd pve at all just

Legit had double trinket weeks from pvp

Week 1 and week 3

Then had a pve wep that was only 216 but that was still a 20 ilvl upgrade then

[tulip falcon]

i was on the verge of unsubbing because of how much i hated the first week of season so it was an emo vault pick

ah rip lol

which trinket was it

[clear pulsar]

Relent adap then medallion and insignia iirc

Week 1 vault was this for sure I have the screenshot

[tulip falcon]

oh lmao

thats a rip

[bitter harness]

jeez

that's rough

[tardy hare]

[primal bane]

i had that twice at least

every week i get at least 1 shit trinket

this week had to choose pve pants bc other choice was a bad pvp neck

the odds are against us

[clear pulsar]

IT IS AWC PRELIM GAMES DAY BOYS

[tulip falcon]

pog

it says friday?

[clear pulsar]

That's top 8 games

Dingus

[tulip falcon]

oh wait

[tranquil canopy]

Hey guys as feral do you use moonfire?

[clear pulsar]

Yes keep it bound

Very useful for stopping drinks from range, keeping healers and rogues in combat, etc

[forest kite]

Do I ever stop stacking vers?

Isnt there diminishing returns after 30%

I'm atm at 32%

[tulip falcon]

there is but it won't be an issue until far down the line

vers will still be the best stat for a while

[thorny venture]

Need to finally upgrade my boat. I'm sure groups will notice it's still 195 soon haha

[tulip falcon]

im 31% at the moment and the dr is causing me to go from 1231 to 1228

so its like nothing

[thorny venture]

I keep wanting a feral legendary, but no spare ash yet

[candid moth]

ilvl doesnt matter that much on legendaries

the dps difference is pretty much non existing

[thorny venture]

40 ilvl is pretty big still for a slot

[clear pulsar]

Kinda

But not really

It'll be like idk 20 int!?

It's around 1% dmg increase

It'd probably be a big enough difference to shift your parse up 1 percentile or 2, but not a big enough difference to beat a dps check you're failing, feel me?

[safe heart]

is it like reasonable that a double dps can beat lock/healer lol

im starting to feel like its just too much rot

like im ticking for like 9% of my hp of other second

im sitting around 33k hp too in cat form

[thorny venture]

That's a bit behind gear wise right now, but not much

[safe heart]

yeah im 207 with 23% vers right now

im deff feeling the pain vs geared warriors monks etc

but locks feel like i cant even run and recover is the thing

like i get dotted up and run away and im like dying faster than i can cast regrowth

[hardy gate]

Is rdruid even worth playing in rated arenas or would it be better investing the time in gearing my rsham?

[safe heart]

rshaman is pretty busted ngl

[stone nest]

Just gear the rsham. You have to play at a way higher level as an rdruid to to compete with rsham.

[tiny oar]

[thorny venture]

Do pvp as balance in rbgs unless you really want a glad mount

[hardy gate]

Thanks guys. Doing 3s with irl friends and struggling to climb and the rdruid is part of the problem I imagine

[clear pulsar]

Unless you actually like pvping*

[stone nest]

Just pressing riptide will get you to 1600 lol

[radiant geyser]

Any recommendations for resto legendary for rbgs? potentially also viable in pve

[candid moth]

depends on your rating & mmr. Anything below like 2.1 doesnt get cucked by specs

[stone nest]

Mother tree

[radiant geyser]

thats the WG one correct?

[clear pulsar]

Yep

[radiant geyser]

I was thinkin that one would be sick with the pvp talent

[stone nest]

Yup

[clear pulsar]

Good everywhere pmuch except arena really

[candid moth]

I would first check the mistakes you make before rerolling to the next hot shit

[radiant geyser]

ye cool, thanks

[clear pulsar]

Good in raid good in m+ good in rbg

[radiant geyser]

thanks

[clear pulsar]

@tiny oar have you used the clearcast regrowth potency conduit at all bro?

I'm looking at it and it's looking at me some kinda way

Sounds terrific!?

[tiny oar]

Nah I'm just using NS n swarm atm idk

10s off kinda nice but mayb the cc regrowths do sumthing

[stone nest]

Yeah if I didn’t use tfb I’d use the NS one

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I'm just looking at it cuz I dont have NS on horde druid yet

It's like 30% buff to the regrowth bro

It sounds like a lot yeah!?

Multiply with sotf

[tiny oar]

Yea I messed around with it a bit n it's like definitely more healing like just theoretically but couldn't rly feel u no

[clear pulsar]

[tiny oar]

I'll try it out again mayb

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's not there when you need

Just sometimes

I get it

[tiny oar]

50s NS vs a min sounds kinda meme but swear its rly nice

[stone nest]

I look at it as you can top someone off 10% more

[tiny oar]

Idk. I logged on my pally and I press wog on a wings proc and it does the same healing as a sotf regrowth and it just makes me so emo man

[clear pulsar]

I think it's just nice for like evening out the cd with their 1 min go if you like, sit cc and use NS late in the go and then next time you have it at the start of the go again rather than needing to wait for end

Give or take

Lake you got sum 2s spam on horde for me buddy?

my horde alt been neglected for like 3 weeks

[stone nest]

Yeah pretty much every other healer is just better. Big sad. Can mistwesvers top people off for the 2 mins they have mana better than us?

[austere plume]

hey guys, how important is verse stacking right now. i can ether go 26% verse 28% mastery213 ilvl or 33% mastery and 16% verse @ 218.

not sure on how to kind of weigh that up

[clear pulsar]

Max hp / 1 - (defensive vers)

Or wago.io/effectivehealth

See if the gear diff makes you tankier or not

[austere plume]

ah interesting ill get that thx

[tiny oar]

Pretty fried bro soz ain't feeling it atm

[clear pulsar]

All good bro I wouldn't want to spam 2s either if I had anything else to do atm

And these weekly/daily chores are assssss

3rd character doing them already

[tiny oar]

Yea I might just leave my leggos at 225 fu k it cba doing torg shit anymore

[austere plume]

i mean only takes 10 mins as drood doe

[tulip falcon]

it never takes 10 mins even when speeding it

[tiny oar]

Just makes my fucking brain hurt man lol

[clear pulsar]

Bro have you done torg as night fae?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah this week I did coldheart in 18 mins, and the other one in 15 mins

[tiny oar]

For the first 2 weeks of expac yea

[clear pulsar]

10 is a biiiiit of hyperbole

But then I go on necro druid and it's like

[tulip falcon]

even when skipping like the vast majority of it i cant do it that fast

lol

[tiny oar]

Rip top dmg

[clear pulsar]

As night fae feral bro!? Yeah it's chill

If I get a convoke 50% buff I just skip all the rest tbh

[tulip falcon]

yep

honestly

[clear pulsar]

About 15 to 20 mins per side sounds about usual

Depending on what layer and what floors you get

[tulip falcon]

only thing i fight atm is the stealth vision mobs

and the bosses

[clear pulsar]

Haha you horde!?

[tulip falcon]

ye

[clear pulsar]

I just tiger dash thru them and meld

Get fukt

[tulip falcon]

of course

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

You could do the same with incarn tho

I might start doing incarn actually

[tulip falcon]

ye was thinking that

[clear pulsar]

On main

It resets each floor so

Just run thru the whole place, incarn prowl

[tiny oar]

Wow

Galaxy brain shit

[tulip falcon]

that would be a thing

imagine

being a non stealther

and having to clear

id shoot myself

[tiny oar]

Yea druid so nice for just like general QoL shit

[tulip falcon]

not needing maw mount

[clear pulsar]

Warrior is giga livelord in torg it's actually nice

Have literally perma DBTS, ignore pain for half my hp bar that autoprocs when I'm taking dmg, condemn at any hp% and knocks target down with no DR

[tulip falcon]

ye some of the powers are a meme

[vapid finch]

was the kill 25 horde/alliance player weekly quest removed?

[stone nest]

https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Ffacebook%2F000%2F023%2F868%2Fa81ca366f1717035.jpg

Torghast in and out 20 min adventure

For real though it’s crazy how fast Druid can do that place

And I still don’t do it lol

[weak hinge]

im angry af playing all specs makes me do torghast every week

3x190; 1x210 and 1x235

[clear pulsar]

I'm remaking legendaries I already crafted 190

Cuz they're in bad slots

[weak hinge]

guys guys. do I upgrade PvP trinket from 197 -> 226 or Boots from 210 -> 226?

[tulip falcon]

which trinket

[clear pulsar]

If it's badge/battlemaster, then trinket

If it's medallion then no

IMO

[tulip falcon]

ye i wouldnt upgrade medallion in that situation

not pog

[quiet atlas]

Hey. My NF balance druid is about to spend all his saved up conquest. Should i spend it on haste/vers gear or Mastery/vers gear or a mix? I am mainly playing RBGs with it, idk if that makes a difference. It seems the ladder is mixed

[weak hinge]

@tulip falcon dps on use

ofc im not upgrading medallion

its same conquest cost so idk

hard choice

i guess trinket gives me more ilvl so more invites to groups 8)

[late mural]

Anyone have a favorite streamer or YouTube channel for boomkin in battlegrounds specifically ? Guides or vods?

[safe wind]

I keep an "ilvl" set just to get into groups, then I switch into the dps set once I'm in 😎

[grand mesa]

Doesn’t LFG just show best in bags ilvl anyway when you apply. That’s how it works on pve side anyway

[rich geode]

Im new to boomkin pvp. What leggo should I craft for 3s and rbgs?

(I was Glad player, trying to get glad with boomkin as well)

[placid mirage]

Boat = higher oneshot cheese, dreambinder = more consistent damage output and also higher potential starsurge crits

I think boat is worse in arena, makes you more predictable and puts all of the power of your lego into small windows you can't always take advantage of

[stone apex]

And yet 80% is using Boat 😄

[errant blaze]

Yea i just crafted dreambinder for this exact reason, had the boat prior

[placid mirage]

I get r4 binder next week

[austere tulip]

Tanks take more damage in Bgs?

[placid mirage]

@stone apex boat doesn't cripple you and it's much better for pve so most people were just saving the ash

[errant blaze]

Im a scrublord tho so dont take my words as advice, still gearing the boomie at like 1.4k

[placid mirage]

I mean pretty much all the high rated players I've seen here prefer dreambinder

[errant blaze]

Boat with convoke is pretty sick for pve ye

Supatease uses boat i think

[stone apex]

Well top10 I have seen using boat so ye

[errant blaze]

Just feel that dreambinder will be more consistent dmg, especially when paired with fury of elune

[clear pulsar]

Supatease is a bit cooked in the head tbh

[placid mirage]

Yeah you can get off 5 surges, three at +20%

Also if your surges do crit they will hit huge so

[weak hinge]

6% crit say no

[vast vapor]

its a lot more likely to get a 3surge go than 5surge go against players

its more than 6% in arena with aura

[clear pulsar]

12% from moonkin aura, 5% base, 3% from badge, that's 20% chance @weak hinge

You're full of CAP

[tiny oar]

im full of cap

[clear pulsar]

Whoever tries to say boat is actually bis in pvp immediately goes to my 'ignore what they say' list

[foggy ravine]

dreambinder bis

[placid mirage]

Boat is actually bis in pvp

[foggy ravine]

am I on the "always listen to list" now?

[clear pulsar]

@placid mirage

[placid mirage]

Not wrong

[foggy ravine]

dreambinder btw

[placid mirage]

I'm fotm rbg boomie

What mastery are u at

I have 28% vers 18% mastery

[stuck talon]

@clear pulsar Pulsar is bis so i can pad meters in rbg's

[foggy ravine]

19 mastery 30.2 vers

[placid mirage]

I'm kind of crit stacked rn which is unfortunate

[stone apex]

@foggy ravine that doesn’t say anything lol

[placid mirage]

Once I get 226 mastery pvp ring hopefully I can get the 24ks

Or close

[foggy ravine]

kyrian also helps

[weak hinge]

kyrian dreambinder; NF Boat it seems

[placid mirage]

Yeah mine would be w/16stack invigoration

[foggy ravine]

the surges post convoke lowkey the real danger

[stone apex]

If you say Dreambinder is bis and post critical hit then you dunno anything

[foggy ravine]

I mean

you get 5-6 surges on a go and you have 20% crit

[placid mirage]

But your surges crit 20% harder

[foggy ravine]

so you are bound to get 1 crit

[clear pulsar]

If you're a good player you get the crits when you need them anyway

Sooooo git gud buddy

[vast vapor]

you are more bound to get no crit

[clear pulsar]

Not if you're good at playing the game

[stone apex]

Dreambinder increase the damage done of starfall and starsurge has nothing todo with critical hits

[placid mirage]

Lol

You're right just use boat man

[weak hinge]

does the on use trinket have haste when bought for honor and crit when bought for conquest? watafak?

[vast vapor]

yes

[weak hinge]

feelsawkward man

[placid mirage]

That's why u swap to bell kekw

[foggy ravine]

yes increasing the damage of surges with dreambinder has nothing to do with surge crit DAMAGE

lol

[clear pulsar]

It is known, dreambinder only affects noncrit

Because you can't crit surges if you don't have BOAT

Naturally

[placid mirage]

It's true

I have never crit surge without boat

[foggy ravine]

infact if you don't use boat I hear you have negative crit

a chance to do less damage

[placid mirage]

Is It bad I always use incarn because I want to save the gcd on my convoke opener from stealth

[foggy ravine]

nah incarn totally viable

[placid mirage]

More crit to make up for negative once I go binder

[rich crag]

i used to use incarn a lot in world pvp cuz you get an extra kinda meld out of it

[foggy ravine]

lowkey wish I was NE instead of a cow for meld

[placid mirage]

I just find if I go starlord and I have to shift into moonkin before convoking that extra gcd gives them a lot of awareness to use defensive

[tiny oar]

dont we all fam

[clear pulsar]

So with incarn you have 5% base + 10% incarn + 12% aura + 3% from badge without looking at any armor piece you got that may have crit, that's 30% chance to crit. If you get 25% crit buff on Korayn when we unlock that it goes up to 55% crit on opener.

[placid mirage]

I mean is korayn really better than niya tho

[clear pulsar]

Pop out of stealth, rootbeam healer, FOE into 3 surges to get aura + dreambinder stacks, then dump Convoke.

Idk if it's better

[placid mirage]

10% damage is nice but 400 mastery is more than that for your burst

[clear pulsar]

But it could

If you get restealths

And can proc the 25% crit buff more than once

[placid mirage]

You are playing some high iq games there

[grand mesa]

Does the starsurges from convoke build dreambinder stacks?

Build/use

[clear pulsar]

It gets affected by dreambinder but I don't think it gives stacks no

[foggy ravine]

it does not

[placid mirage]

Wtf2

[foggy ravine]

its only casted surges

[clear pulsar]

You arent technically casting surges so yeah

[grand mesa]

Interesting

[placid mirage]

Why do the surges empower your eclipse then

[clear pulsar]

Good question

[sick latch]

but you're not even in eclipse doing all that

[foggy ravine]

maybe its bugged but I tried it out

[sick latch]

unless you ca

[foggy ravine]

if you stack binder before convoke it will fall off

[placid mirage]

Dang that sucks

[forest kite]

Imagine playing convoke in PvP

[placid mirage]

Imagine being a spreadsheet kyrian player

Instead of a Vegas high roller

[foggy ravine]

lmao

I love that

[sick latch]

imagine contributing to a discussion as if you were in twitch chat

[grand mesa]

Hahaha

[forest kite]

Hahahahah

1v1 me bro quick scopes only

[clear pulsar]

360 convoke surges is actually bis

Even as feral I do it

[forest kite]

😂😂😂

[sick latch]

console turn speed 2000 convokes

[clear pulsar]

Balance aff busted af

[placid mirage]

I'm sad if convoke doesn't charge binder

[forest kite]

Balance aff lock? I was playing it last night with a buddy it feels so bad imo

[clear pulsar]

Balance affinity

[forest kite]

Oh

[wild jacinth]

Balance affi is good tho

Just In 3s

[forest kite]

I am a strict guardian player

Guardian aff

[placid mirage]

So if u surge and then convoke you get like 3s of buff?

From binder

Seems like you just always convoke first to get 16stack and try to 5surge after

[earnest turret]

where the wowhead guide of balance gone to? D:

[potent void]

is there any guides for playing guardian in RBGs?

[foggy ravine]

ya I think its better to drop surges after convoke

with the mastery buff

[forest kite]

Is timeworn like a lot better than boat?

[foggy ravine]

both work for NF timeworn is better for kyrian

[forest kite]

Ight I need to make that then. I made like 9 other lego instead oops

[worn phoenix]

What's the best leggy to craft for feral in rbgs?

[tulip falcon]

you'd just use whatever you have for arena

symm if you have it

[empty venture]

I'm using the Apex predator carving when I do play feral (which arguably doesn't happen all that much now that our RL is addicted to guardian for base sitting AND flag carrying)

[stuck bloom]

any 2v2 boomkin god here

for soem advice?

[tulip falcon]

apex is fine, I'm using it at the moment

[empty venture]

proc rate is nasty when you can cleave everything

and it's still good even in the "worse" situation of just a duel

[tulip falcon]

yea you shouldn't focus on cleaving still

usually 2-3 rips for me

depends

[empty venture]

I usually cleave to store up a proc ('and sometimes luck another within a short time frame) and only put real rip on kill target

[worn phoenix]

Hmmm so you guys think it's better to just spread rips than it is to nom dudes to death?

[tulip falcon]

not really

if you're running apex you should probably do 2-3 max but it honestly depends

the meta is so single target right now you are sort of not really doing a lot if you are just pveing rips on everyone

[worn phoenix]

Yeah! That's kinds the feel I've been getting

Leave the cleave to the afflocks

[tulip falcon]

if I do get put in teamfight

I pretty much play it like a rogue would

Ill jump on kill targets if we get some good setup or whenever it just feels right

at which point ill probably have a proc and some shit going

otherwise im just ruining peoples days and making it hard for them to do shit

[worn phoenix]

I'm really low ilvl atm so I just follow my warrior buddy around and be his pinch healer and stun kitty

[tulip falcon]

if you bring feral to teamfight and just treat it like a normal melee you may as well just kick it and invite a ret or something

[empty venture]

but can a ret switch to guardian? No I don't think so 😿

[worn phoenix]

Yeah I've heard the whole "why play feral when you can boomie"

[empty venture]

kill me

[tulip falcon]

ret doesn't need to switch to guardian when every team has at least 1 boomkin and usually 2

[hardy cargo]

Prot

[worn phoenix]

Kitty is so much fun though. You are so fast

[empty venture]

zoomies for days is what got me addicted to kitty

[tulip falcon]

feral is viable to whatever rating you want if you know the groups

but gl pugging as it

[worn phoenix]

My guild is super into rbgs so they'll always have a spot for me

[empty venture]

Even paladin players spit on prot in pvp

[hardy cargo]

I know

[worn phoenix]

We only have 1 rogue too so I'm sure we can find use for a kitty

[hardy cargo]

But if you're going to tank in pvp might as well be the worst one to play against

[tulip falcon]

just do with a feral whatever you'd do with a rogue

[stuck bloom]

Hey lads any 2v2 boomie god here?

[tulip falcon]

put on objectives if you can but not defense

focus on control in teamfights then dip in for good kill ops

go to a base and one shot someone with convoke and cap it

[worn phoenix]

Heehee

Even at 160 ilvl I can still kill dudes with a convoke if I can get it off

[tardy hare]

Yeah, also ret giga owns prot pala

[foggy ravine]

prot pally has no spot in rbgs

[tardy hare]

It does in ours

[foggy ravine]

😮

[tulip falcon]

do u actually play prot fc

lol

[tardy hare]

No

Im fc now

[empty venture]

but what about muh horsey knockback in eye of the storm???

[tardy hare]

We did before tho

[tulip falcon]

ah

yuck

why would u have a healer play fc

[tardy hare]

We play prot pal guardian on base mals xd

Maps*

[empty venture]

also, aren't they getting a nerfbat hit on word of glory (at the same time as ret)?

[tardy hare]

Yeah but for prot it wont change a thing prob

You heal so much that it still tops players anyway

[empty venture]

well in arena if you can start ccing them once their friend is at 20% instead of 30% it does change a thing

[tardy hare]

Why

If you cc prot while teammate is at 20-30% is irrelevant

[empty venture]

because wog scales off missing health, so if they just spam it on full life players they are not doing anything else, and if they greed, that's when you get them?

[tardy hare]

They top on either hp

Besides killing prot pala is easier that their partners

[empty venture]

as a result a healer will always keep you at 100% when they can, a prot will probably let you drop a bit before doing the healing, and that's when you get them

then once they bubble the stun, next go is for them

[tulip falcon]

it doesnt really work like that in actuality

they dont sit there and think "ah hes dying but he's at 30% so I'm going to wait til 20% before i WoG!"

if they see hes dying they will press it

[empty venture]

the numbers are obviously made up, but there is distinctly a "magic hp %" before which a prot pally rarely wog and uses other abilities instead, I expect it to go lower now that wog values is dropping

[tardy hare]

I mean

Why press wog when its not necessary

[empty venture]

they are not healer they are lay on hand dispensers, which might look the same, but that's not exactly true

[tardy hare]

That sounds identical to hpals to me

[empty venture]

hpals have tons of instant with varying heal values, some delayed, some over time (the shield, bestow faith, etc...) prot literally ONLY can bring you from 1 to 100, or from 50 to 100, or from 99 to 100, but it's the same button using the same resources

[tardy hare]

yes

[empty venture]

but yeah, holy also have some "lay on hand dispensing" going on, it's just way less likely that they greed it to rely only on that

maybe the only prot I face were trash, but it was very clear they all let their ally fall significantly before healing, to maximize healing/holy power, or due to some bias of "I'm paying for the full health bar, I'm gonna heal the full health bar!"

[tulip falcon]

i mean obviously but they aren't calculating it in their heads with a specific percentage

there is so much dynamic in PvP to allow for that

it sounds like some PvE type mentality where that would happen

[empty venture]

of course they aren't calculating, but I assume it doesn't "feel right" to wog at 80% but might feel right to wog at 60%

[clear pulsar]

What is the point you're trying to make exactly?

[tulip falcon]

Idk this is just a really weird way of looking at things

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I'm thoroughly confused

[tardy hare]

hmmm

prot pala nerf actually noticable

in combination with damp that is

[clear pulsar]

Yeah ofc it's 20% nerf to like 70% of their healing

[tardy hare]

kidna fine actually

[clear pulsar]

Granted it always overhealed

[clear pulsar]

By a good bit anyway

[tardy hare]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[empty venture]

identify what is their "feel right" healing percent, deal damage slowly while setting up, control them right as they would use a heal, burst a bit, get cds off?

[tulip falcon]

i don't know a single person that pvps like this

like no one is calculating a feel right percentage in their head of when they should wog

you use it when you need to

[empty venture]

I mean it's not hard when it comes to prot they have 1 BUTTON, and it's quite noticeable when they press it

[foggy ravine]

pog wogs all around

[empty venture]

after two wog, you know when they feel right to wog

[tulip falcon]

idk this genuinely baffles me im done with this lol

[empty venture]

then you play around that number as "guy won't receive a heal until he drops bellow that, so it's as if his max health is that"

[tulip falcon]

who actually plays like this

?

[tardy hare]

bro

anything below 50%

is

go heal

[tulip falcon]

theres no magic percentage when you are 100% guaranteed wog

[empty venture]

I mean, ferals play the "bite reduce max health by 15%" so even if the magic number is 85%, that's great value

[tulip falcon]

but there is no magic value

[tardy hare]

bro

my prot pala literally says

hej ust heals me when i lose hp

gg

[tulip falcon]

exactly

like no one is calculating specific percentages in their head when they heal in pvp

you know when you need to use it

and when you dont

if you have a brain

[clear pulsar]

It is a wild concept for sure

[empty venture]

I've had good success waiting for people to drop from regular damage before a go, I never tried to go against a prot team on someone at full hp, and really never had to

[tulip falcon]

it sounds like some pve min/max mentality

where everything happens in a specific way

[clear pulsar]

Idk prot is really a nonissue

Like it's annoying I guess but it's the worst pala spec by a good margin anyway

[tardy hare]

only issue with prot is people dont know how to play against it

[foggy ravine]

I feel like killing prot works normally

[haughty compass]

Kill prot, kill guardian angel thing

Ez

[empty venture]

the only annoying thing from prot is the same as with holy: the 2 billion cds, but then it's super reliable to get them out of the way in the case of prot, while setting up on holy is harder

(at least in my opinion)

[clear pulsar]

Thing with holy is

Convoke when you skull bash them

Cant bubble cant hoj cant heal

[empty venture]

wait, holy can cast spells?

never seen it, I don't believe you

[clear pulsar]

And then you dont even waste stun dr so you can do another go after you pool and build to 5 cp again

With niya mastery stacks

[tardy hare]

setting up prot is really easy

you wait for steed to go off

you stun

pop all cds

[clear pulsar]

You should try to do bigger dam then

[tardy hare]

repeat

[alpine shard]

hey guys, does anyone do arena with Guardian druid?

[tardy hare]

till he dies in hte first seocnds

[clear pulsar]

Maybe stop waiting for the magic hp%

[tulip falcon]

wait you mean you aren't calculating his magic wog percentage before you kill him?

impossible!

[tardy hare]

just keep him at 54%

he wont heal then!

[tulip falcon]

lol

[tardy hare]

keep him at 54% till DR is gone

then stun again!

[clear pulsar]

You know if anyone will stream the early games on awc today?

EU side

[tulip falcon]

what time they starting

[clear pulsar]

30 mins

[tulip falcon]

ill ask in my guild

apparently tren and zhrey

will

zhrey usually does

[clear pulsar]

Ok I've gathered tren's team and 5 other people streaming with varying skill levels

Tren zhrey kawnzlol dimanukem and fashionx

Haynetv also

Dimanukem is a rdru

[stray sigil]

cassidy play?

[livid wasp]

annoying how warr/ww/prot is still a thing

even after the nerf

[forest kite]

Who is playing that?

That shit is freelo

Playing against it is*

[livid wasp]

well we go ww and we cant cc pala for shit

cause of his horse

[safe wind]

You should be blowing triple melee out of the water as boomy

[livid wasp]

and disc dies

haha

im not a boomy

[safe wind]

Your first mistake

;D

[forest kite]

Anyone try boomy fire hpal?

[safe wind]

Yes, it's very strong

Although I was the fire mage not the boomy when I was doing it, so idk what it feels like as the boomy

[livid wasp]

sorry im not a fotm roller like the lot of you

[forest kite]

It’s what I’ve been playing. About 500 games now in. My mage gets absolutely fucking railed every game any idea how to make him live?

[forest kite]

I’ve Mained boomy since wrath smd

[safe wind]

Is he using Triune Ward and the barrier heal conduit?

[forest kite]

Yeah

[foggy ravine]

are you cycloning and rooting to peel for him?

[safe wind]

Mages have been really hard to kill, and after the Triune nerf they're still pretty tough to kill

[forest kite]

And I clone with till dr on both dps with high winds, spam regrwoths, just still gets murdered

Roots and typhoon on. Cd

[safe wind]

He should be pre-casting Barrier so he has it off cooldown on the initiation. Pretty much doubles his shield hp

[forest kite]

I’ll mention that to him

[safe wind]

Some mages cast it too early, and it falls off before damage, or too late and it's still on cd when there's big incoming damage

[forest kite]

Seems like the main issue is him and our hpal wasting defensives by overlapping them. But idk how to help

My pally bubbles when we aren’t in danger. We all play in discord too

[safe wind]

Just a communication problem, should get better the more you play together

[forest kite]

Yeah

How much are you cc’ing as a mage with that comp?

[livid wasp]

and like when we face ret/frost dk or ret/warrior as jungle they just mongo our disc and eventually win

like no idea what to do to win

[forest kite]

Disc priest is a very easy target rn

What rating you play at?

[livid wasp]

2.1k

really frustrating

[forest kite]

What affinity you running?

[livid wasp]

resto

[forest kite]

And I assume during their attacks you’re playing defensively with cc and off heals?

[livid wasp]

yes when we dont have a go

I go for clones

and peels for healer

offhealing

[forest kite]

When are you losing? Someone gets sniped during your go or after your go, they go and you lose? Are you guys overlapping defensives and trinkets early on?

Also if you’re oom and have drs out, I’ll just hard cast roots just to do whatever I can to buy a little time

[tardy hare]

Why would you cc the paladin

You can cc all other 2

And kill the pala easily in a maim

Pala doesnt have dispell

Why tf would you not trap fear cc warrior and ww

[iron briar]

As boomy in RBGs do we run BoAT or Dreambinder?

[clear pulsar]

Who are you talking to

[tardy hare]

Zechey

[umbral comet]

How do we beat mage rogue

as boomie

[livid wasp]

I dont know

[umbral comet]

i get ez win then vs mage rogue for a loss and repeat

[clear pulsar]

Rookie mistake

[tardy hare]

I know : )

[clear pulsar]

Bracket's out

Cassidy's team is seed 20 lmao wtf

@stray sigil

[safe wind]

Polymorph is too good of a spell to not be throwing out often

[junior plover]

Since kitty cleave is doing pretty alright

has anyone tried the WW variant

[forest kite]

Yeah we’ve been having like 15 polys and 15 clones each game about 3-5 mins long

[safe wind]

As fire/boomy your cleave is shit so cyclone and poly can set up a godly convoke

tbh I would just poly the healer, and get ready to DB if he trinkets while you convoke the kill target

[iron briar]

Boomy is running Verdant Infusion in 2s + 3s?

[livid wasp]

can someone watch my stream and say whats going wrong its under my name on twitch

I really would like some pointers cause I just dont know

[clear pulsar]

[silent glade]

As someone who sucks at pvp and arena, would boomie or feral be easier to get into it with?

[clear pulsar]

What?

[safe wind]

Boomie. At low ratings you can just practice CC until you have 2/3 cc'd, cast Convoke, and win the game

[iron briar]

Looking at high ranking boomys in 2s atm, majority running verdant infusion

[clear pulsar]

Nope

[silent glade]

Alright, I'll give it a go 😄

[safe wind]

Boomie is especially busted at low rating 2's

[iron briar]

Ok, follow up question, whats our BiS leggo for 2s / 3s / RBGs as boom?

[clear pulsar]

That's a bit wild bro boomies dont even run resto affinity 99% of the time

Idk what you're looking at

But also check pins

[iron briar]

I’m checking the top 5 booms rated over 2.4K in 2s globally, 3 running verdant infusion, 1 dreambinder 1 BoAT

[clear pulsar]

That's resto druids logged off in boomie spec

[placid mirage]

What aff for guard in rbg

[clear pulsar]

People doing torghast/maw chores, etc

[iron briar]

It has possible play, I wondered if it was an off healing thing, that’s why I asked :p

[clear pulsar]

I think it doesn't really matter too much, but resto is comfy yeah!?

Guilty always mentions typhoon in twin peaks tho

[placid mirage]

Yeah I was just wondering cause move speed could be ok and typhoons is also nice

Seems ok in wsg if you are roof

[foggy ravine]

I think any of the 3 work tbh

resto gives vortex, balance gives extra range for charges / typhoon / feral gives movespeed

[placid mirage]

Like you prob won't even be using the heals in resto right it's mostly just vortex and passive

[foggy ravine]

at least when it matters you'll just be sitting bear anyways

[placid mirage]

Ye

Man my mastery is so fked I'm only 8% on bear :(

[clear pulsar]

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[iron briar]

Can’t remember do you get incap roar always, or only with guardian affinity?

[placid mirage]

Only guard aff

[iron briar]

Bah incap roar is so so strong

[placid mirage]

Did they really nerf it? My friend was using it last night and was blocking my spells

[iron briar]

Hmm, is it easier to carry myself to 1.8/2k as feral or boomy in 2s?

[tardy hare]

YES DUUDEEEE

[tardy hare]

The one you're better at

[placid mirage]

So Is it just popping him when the dots tick even thru shield?

[tardy hare]

Looks like it

Very nice

[iron briar]

Was 2.4K feral a few years ago, but boomy main now, hence why I asked probably as proficient at either

[twilit siren]

I think I read here to get 2h int staff as weapon? Is it better than 1h+oh combo?

[tardy hare]

Idk you can meme your way with boomy convoke

[placid mirage]

It's technically more int

It's like 5 int or something

[tardy hare]

Both probably pretry smooth anyway

[foggy ravine]

also 2H is haste

so speedy clone

[haughty compass]

This channel like Groundhog Day

[placid mirage]

All channels are like that

Any discord where more than like 20 ppl talk is just gonna be repeats