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echo crescent
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or its bite forever and ever

oak canyon
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if i switch covs do i lose my conduits lol

echo crescent
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when this bite thing started for ferals?

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from bfa or legion?

clear pulsar
oak canyon
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god bless

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im really thinkin about pullin the trigger on changin my feral from night fae to kyrian

echo crescent
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what u switching to ?

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i wlda went kyrian

vagrant plume
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as a new player, am i just gonna be asked if im boomie EVERY time i queue into a RGB team?

echo crescent
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but that arena and that place i hate is so much

vagrant plume
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It seems like ferals are never wanted

echo crescent
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it hurt my eyes

oak canyon
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@vagrant plume yes

echo crescent
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nope ferals not wanted most of the time

clear pulsar
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Boomie is insane for rbgs and melee is generally unfavorable

vagrant plume
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Thats unfortunate

echo crescent
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from arenas to mythics

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to raids

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they are unwanted

vagrant plume
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Either i post it in note and never get adds or people whisper asking if Im boomy

oak canyon
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raids they're one of hte highest ST rn lol

stray sigil
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had no problems getting in rbgs as feral tbf

vagrant plume
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Yeah oh well. it sucks but i find feral the funnest (IMO of course)

oak canyon
vagrant plume
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i on the cusp of 1600

clear pulsar
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Feral is really good rn if you got some achieves to link you get invited

vagrant plume
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trying to get a couple more wins

clear pulsar
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Feral's good everywhere

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Pvp m+ raid

vagrant plume
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i dont have any achieves

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im new

oak canyon
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im considering trying BT/kyrian/curio build fk

vagrant plume
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i link my 1500 achieve for 1st time getting it

echo crescent
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i just do gathering with mine as guardian 😄

stray sigil
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just fakeachievs ur way to the top

echo crescent
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lol

karmic kelp
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Yea feral is strong everywhere. People are just dumb. Maybe I see it out of place in rbgs. Just because comp dictates that

clear pulsar
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Cuz like if you dont pve there's nothing rly holding you back at night fae ye!?

stray sigil
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DID SOMEONE SAY

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BT CURIO?

echo crescent
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in pve fae is good too

stray sigil
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is someone else a savant like me

echo crescent
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you think we gonna get 2x legendary?

junior plover
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Convoke is bae

oak canyon
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i litreally only do raids but im gonna stop because my guild is aids

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i got lectured for telling 2k dps to do more on sludge

echo crescent
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to wear

junior plover
echo crescent
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curio what is that?

stray sigil
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u guys wont laugh

junior plover
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cat eye curio

stray sigil
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when curio bt is the play

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u dirty rodents

oak canyon
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dude im fucking

junior plover
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curio ff will be meta

oak canyon
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down to try it

echo crescent
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i heard its a bad bad leggo

oak canyon
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but i'd imagine bt/curio is not the same without kyrian

junior plover
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we all got jebaited into symmetry

ruby walrus
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@oak canyon bro I had the same problem with my guild

stray sigil
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bt convoke

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is some fucking pump too lol

clear pulsar
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@stray sigil I believe in it brother I just don't want to dump soul ash into curio rn

oak canyon
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fuck ok i have enough soul ash for a fresh rank 3 im so down

ruby walrus
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But it was my guldies heals pulling less than 2.5k

echo crescent
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i yet to make my feral legendary

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m thinking circle

junior plover
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In reality i want curio in 2s and guardian leggo in 3s

stray sigil
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so ur not a true believe face

oak canyon
stray sigil
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ur a fraud

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a fake

clear pulsar
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I'll save up for it and then make 235 straight away

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Is what I'm saying

oak canyon
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@stray sigil did u make ring

stray sigil
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bt curio is the way

clear pulsar
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When we get korayn fully unlocked

stray sigil
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ya i made ring

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cuz then u can have 2 vers mas ring

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with pvp one

clear pulsar
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That's a bait tho fuji

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Cuz you want crit too

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With korayn

junior plover
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Imagine not being niya tho

oak canyon
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god yea i need more mastery that'd be so nice

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im getting greifed by vault so bad

junior plover
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Damn the fact that we have 3 viable PVP soulbinds

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feels fucking good

oak canyon
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haste vers belt and wrist

clear pulsar
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Need 350 crit from gear to get guaranteed 100% crit on opener Shreds with Korayn

junior plover
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gj RIOT games

oak canyon
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like what the fuck

echo crescent
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basically what feral does other specs and class can do better

stray sigil
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no i want big ass bites

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with kyrian

echo crescent
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i want big bleeds

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and bites to referesh my bleeds

junior plover
echo crescent
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or make it perma bleed

oak canyon
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does any convokers in 3's feel like they're just holding onto their convoke sometimes for too long

clear pulsar
junior plover
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jungle wouldnt exist

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but it does

clear pulsar
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Or Rake BrS Shred Bite Shred Bite for BT ofc

echo crescent
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someday

stray sigil
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then ur stuck with convoke and not kyrian

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nop

clear pulsar
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@junior plover stop replying to this guy he's blocked in my discord

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Big stupid idiot

echo crescent
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i still hope someday bleeds carrying me

stray sigil
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also koukis is bis

echo crescent
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and bites be filler

stray sigil
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idc about stupid furry form

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to blink

echo crescent
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i want that old developer rehired

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instead of current one

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bleed was the bae

clear pulsar
junior plover
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Bleed spec would be nice

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but dont take my bite spec fuk u

stray sigil
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its a 1.5min cd cheetah wildcharge

clear pulsar
oak canyon
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wait how much soul ash is a rank 3

stray sigil
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3.5 i beleive

oak canyon
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fuck off

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im mad now

clear pulsar
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3200

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For rank 3 straight

oak canyon
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if i do full torghast im 3.1k

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angy

clear pulsar
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Mission table

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Get another 100 easy

oak canyon
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no soul ash missions

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atm

clear pulsar
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Dreamweaver + 4 trappers

stray sigil
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pray for it

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kekw

oak canyon
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rank 2 ring it is for cat eye

echo crescent
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anyone miss this talent?

oak canyon
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are ring prices $$ like umbrahide or

echo crescent
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was passive

stray sigil
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rings are much cheaper

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on my server

oak canyon
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what are they called

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like the base

stray sigil
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tis like

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shadowghast

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or something likethat

echo crescent
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yeah

oak canyon
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iight lemme see

echo crescent
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shadowghast ring

clear pulsar
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The auction house has a 'runecarving' category @oak canyon

oak canyon
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if rank 2 isnt that expensive ill just make a rank 2 then do a 4 eventually if cat eye is pog

junior plover
clear pulsar
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Armor > Miscellaneous > Runecarving

oak canyon
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can i trade in conquest pieces from vault for different ones or am i just griefed

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LOL

clear pulsar
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Hah

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You wish

echo crescent
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ohk xD

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this was wrath druid

clear pulsar
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@stray sigil do you use TF potency + Bite potency?

stray sigil
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yes

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im pelagos

clear pulsar
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I'm feeling like Convoke potency is a bit bait cuz Convoke can kill without it

stray sigil
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no other option for kyrian

indigo osprey
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whats the recommended leggo for arena 2s/3s resto?

oak canyon
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20% kinda massive tho on that convoke potency

clear pulsar
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Verdant Infusion @indigo osprey

indigo osprey
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is verdant good in RBG too?

junior plover
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BLASPHEMY

clear pulsar
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Yeah it's ok

echo crescent
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now kitty calm down

stray sigil
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ya no feral convoke wont outright kill people all the time

clear pulsar
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I think RBGers generally play Mother Tree @indigo osprey

stray sigil
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ur better off playing conflux imo

indigo osprey
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thank you!

echo crescent
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no one runs circle

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i hope they mega buff circle

oak canyon
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rank 4 shadowghast ring is 65k

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not bad

echo crescent
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to make my bleed dream alive

stray sigil
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ya rings are cheap

junior plover
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how much is the TF conduit again?

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%

echo crescent
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btw why mangle was removed from feral?

clear pulsar
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Fuji when did you go kyrian?

stray sigil
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184 is 3.9

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last week

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like wesdnesday

oak canyon
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alright fuji

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im gonna try it

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bt/curio

stray sigil
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after i hit exalted with court of nights i just sent it

oak canyon
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its time

stray sigil
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i like it

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its fun

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i dont miss ff at all

clear pulsar
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Bruh ive been exalted for like 2 months

stray sigil
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but never been a ff fan

oak canyon
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ff is awkward i always end up ff'ing during symmetry 2 cp procs

stray sigil
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are u exalted with maraximus ?

clear pulsar
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Nah fuck that shit

stray sigil
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i wanted the title

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but i was too far

clear pulsar
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Only court of night and wild hunt

stray sigil
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was revered

junior plover
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Oh wait fuji are you the only feral on leaderboards with BT actually

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I was wondering who that was

oak canyon
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bean plays curio/bt

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doesnt he

stray sigil
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not rly anymroe

junior plover
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not sure about bt

stray sigil
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he does play curio

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but not much bt

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how do u even filter with bt/ff

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i wanna see how many ppl play bt lol

junior plover
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I honestly dont remember

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altho its the talent they logged out with obv

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so might be some pve frogs

stray sigil
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says 10% but that seems wrong

junior plover
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yeah pve frogs

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for sure

stray sigil
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cuz ik most the top ferals

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none of them touch bt

clear pulsar
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That's just showing all leaderboard

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Down to like top 5000 or so

stray sigil
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still doubt theres 50 ferals in na above (?) playing bt

little temple
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Is it worth going Quantum device together with release trink for arenas/RBGs. instead of the 2x pvp trink bonus? ive just seen alot high boomies playing 1 pve trink and release

stray sigil
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na

junior plover
little temple
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Just watching Zqix going it

clear pulsar
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It's cheesy if you get a good stat for the incarn convoke

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But it's pretty pointless like

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It's not much more than just having the trinket set bonus

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And running badge

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Which is itself a 10% dmg buff or so

junior plover
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Nvm the filter is broken shows all talents at 0%

stray sigil
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id bet money im the only one above 2.6 playing it tbh

clear pulsar
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Yeah the people on leaderboard with it are prob just logged off in pve talents

stray sigil
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non believers

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not everyone can be a savant i guess

clear pulsar
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You right you right

stray sigil
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yup

ashen smelt
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226 quantum gives 720 stat on proc (of one of your top two stats)

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it'll exceed the vers 2 set, but i'm not sure it's a worthwhile tradeoff for a 3 min cd.

tardy hare
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lmao no

safe heart
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is phial and healthstone on the same cd?

stray sigil
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no

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they are not

north wharf
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ret

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for that reason

ashen smelt
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be dominant and afk as prot

tardy hare
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afk without picking spec

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gg

north wharf
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big. brain.

chrome panther
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ill do rated 2 with u on my 162 enhance sham

primal bane
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why u want to lose every BG

chrome panther
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it'll be fun i promise

viral oracle
clear pulsar
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And then 1. you're doing less damage outside of that window, and 2. Badge is a 1 min cd vs Cube being a 3 min cd.

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It's not even a question bro

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Cube is only some cheese shit that's not even noticeably better than Badge on the thing it's trying to achieve

haughty compass
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AFKijg bgs on purpose. I hate you

kindred galleon
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Reeeeeeeeport

acoustic nebula
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Do rbgs

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Yeah get into a carry or trade carries

kindred galleon
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Get a shitcrew together

acoustic nebula
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You get like 1-2k honor per game

chrome panther
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i think yolos start at 180

clear pulsar
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Lost a 5 min seething shore and got 250 honor bro it's sooooo worth

chrome panther
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just do ur cov campaign for welfare 197

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its dummy quick

clear pulsar
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Yeah get renown by afking bgs

chrome panther
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my fresh 60 got renown 24 in like

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a day

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two days?

acoustic nebula
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Afk in rbgs then

chrome panther
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disgusting hpal/ret fotm reroll

acoustic nebula
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Sit farm

chrome panther
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tho

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yikes

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:sad:

acoustic nebula
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Ew pve

stray thorn
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is the apex legendary any good for pvp? or should i wait to get symmetry for feral

chrome panther
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i think the furrys are pogging over barkskin leggo now

stray thorn
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which one is that?

ashen smelt
kindred galleon
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Meme

ashen smelt
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even if it were a useful trinket in arena, you'd still have to deal with the other effects and possibilities. Wouldn't be worth the trouble.

clear pulsar
# stray thorn which one is that?

None of the feral leggos is noticeably impactful. Symmetry is good cuz it gives you a strong sequence of 3 bites when you use Berserk, Apex can be ok too ofc it's just hit or miss, some games it takes a looong time to proc at all. Cat-eye Curio is ok, similar to Symmetry in making your Berserk window better.

ashen smelt
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rbgs you can shift trinkets around though too

foggy ravine
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Device nice for 2nd insignia for base sitting

ashen smelt
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so its not like you're locked in with the device

clear pulsar
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Rest assured tho you aren't being held back in rating or climbing ability by not having Symmetry @stray thorn

cobalt oyster
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well-hone instincts drops from plaguefall, anyone know if i need to have guardian loot spec set for it to drop?

clear pulsar
foggy ravine
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Ya it’s 30s internal cd

cobalt oyster
sly marsh
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does the Barkskin legendary work for feral? The tooltip says “requires guardian” but idk

ashen smelt
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requires guardian? is that a new addition to the tooltip?

weak hinge
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Omg That would be so good if legendaries were spec locked.

clear pulsar
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It does work

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It would be a bit ridiculous @weak hinge

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Mage only class allowed to play a defensive legendary

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Yall are full of CAP

clear pulsar
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It says 'requires guardian' in red once you go make it too

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Doesn't matter it works as any spec

sly marsh
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That’s weird lol. Ty. I am looking forward to messing around with it in arenas

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Frenzied regen OP

clear pulsar
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Must be great having an impactful damage legendary for your spec

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Can ask for nerfs to shit other people run all day

ashen smelt
weak hinge
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So you’re telling me I shouldn’t upgrade my symmetry?

clear pulsar
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If you ask me, yeah I wouldn't

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My symm still 190 I cba playing with it

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It's sooo underwhelming idk

weak hinge
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But probably pretty good for 2s?

blissful belfry
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Now now now. with full moon taken away, should i start being a proper boomy and play td foe 5 surge combo. or should i stay as a degenerate convoke macro one shot one trick pony

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well, yes and no, there are quite a few games where full moon made me win when it was undeserved

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but on a good set up, convoke will still kill with no moons

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never relied on moons for wins

weak hinge
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I wanna try Kyrian but NF just so good for pve

blissful belfry
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what i liked about moon was to 100% - 0% in the single 31k hit it does on low gear people

half juniper
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i changed from NF to kyrian (no more pve), does troll is better as kyrian then ?

weak hinge
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Stomp always bis

echo crescent
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also as tauren u get more hp

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elf for ally and tauren for horde

crude minnow
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Tauren gets fat 40-41k hp. Tempting

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I might try for 2400 rbg and then swap to kyrian

junior plover
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then I'm assuming you didn't really want to play it in the first place

echo crescent
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did u liked this talent tree

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for pvp or current one

foggy drift
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are you guys using early spring in 3v3 arena?

blissful belfry
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i consider

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Not like the swap would cost me much too. Just some gold for a new leggo

copper lintel
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How bad is feral going to feel if I'm using my balance set with loads of haste?

echo crescent
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just stay balance

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is the real hunter

sick monolith
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guys i figured out why convoke/incarn from stealth wasnt working

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i didnt put it on my cat hot bars 🤦‍♂️

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it wasnt the macro i made just normal convoke

vital bolt
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if i cant make fearful symmetry what other options are good?

junior plover
blissful belfry
junior plover
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For 3s The Natural Order's Will is also decently good

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(guardian legendary)

echo crescent
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natural works?

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for ferals?

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says guardian only though

oak sonnet
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For bear FC in BGs is their a leggo that makes it good? Or just bear is fine

hexed verge
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the double frenzied regen on barkskin is by far the best for survivability

oak sonnet
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Natural order?

crude minnow
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Definitely not. Sleeper is BIS and is what makes guardian so good for fc

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30s of cc immunity is insane

north wharf
oak sonnet
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@crude minnow Thank you

junior plover
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but it does work

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similarly to the prot legendary working on ret

crude minnow
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If you wanna confirm about sleeper being BiS. You can probably use search and find people way better than I am saying it is BiS haha

junior plover
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but i would be careful with spending my only soul ash on it

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might get nerfed

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because a) it does say requires guardian so it seems like this is obviously a not inteded bug and b) ret paladins are abusing their legendary to great success and are causing issues

clear pulsar
crude minnow
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Weren't hpals using that shit too

clear pulsar
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Bladestorm leggo works for fury, prot pala leggo works for other pala specs, BOAT works for any druid spec

junior plover
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for any of these being intended

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tho

clear pulsar
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Spec-specific legendaries all work for any spec that can access the relevant spell

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It's been that way for literally a full year

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All of beta

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Everything all the time

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Signet is bis for warriors in pve and it procs recklessness for arms

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It's all like that

junior plover
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So your take is that it's the "requires: spec" text that came from some stupid intern not knowing what labels hes putting on items?

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I mean its equally possible

clear pulsar
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It requires the spec to drop the legendary

junior plover
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No it doesnt

north wharf
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no it doesnt

hexed verge
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personally i would take natural order over sleeper unless i am reading it wrong. A stun isnt going to kill you but a combust is going to. Sleeper will give you 12% dr and a 70k heal

clear pulsar
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Well druids have guardian spec

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So they can drop it

north wharf
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legendaries drop regardless of spec

junior plover
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LUL

clear pulsar
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Warriors cant drop it

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Cuz they dont have guardian spec

junior plover
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oh

crude minnow
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Smoke bomb in an RBG is going to kill you

junior plover
crude minnow
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Sleeper OP

north wharf
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combust isnt gonna kill you unless you're stunned and not lining it

clear pulsar
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Even legiondaries all worked for any spec that could access the relevant spells

north wharf
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I'm exagerrating

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but I'd rather not be stunned

clear pulsar
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It's just pretty silly

junior plover
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Yeah if not for that red label

clear pulsar
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To think it is unintended

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or a bug

junior plover
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I would be sure theyre intended

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but that thing makes me wonder

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also its a balancing nightmare obviously

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cant wait for the next mythic tier to be broken with tanks running healing legendaries or smth

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and they hotfix it

clear pulsar
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Scoreboard says I got 600 honor from this isle of conquest

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My quest progress only shows 325

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What the FRICK MAN????

north wharf
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yeah the other honor is from the buff

crude minnow
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30s cc immunity on sleeper is so good. Either you use it getting across the bg or you use it when the offense comes to fuck you. Without sleeper you can legit just flop to a mage rogue

junior plover
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Yeah win honor doesnt count

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just the honor from the bg

clear pulsar
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Win honor def counts

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LOL

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We lost tho

junior plover
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Hm

north wharf
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I believe bonus honor doesn't

clear pulsar
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I mean imagine gaining 600 honor for an epic bg win

north wharf
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from the bg event

junior plover
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Yeah maybe it was bonus honor then but was there a bg event already in SL?

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I distinctly remember having the same issue

clear pulsar
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Bonus only seems to apply to regular bgs tho

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Oh you mean weekly bonus

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Not alliance bonus

north wharf
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I mean the week event, yeah

junior plover
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Alliance get bonus honor from bgs?

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Bruh

clear pulsar
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Ofc 70% of pop is horde

junior plover
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Ye but the mercenary system

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is there

crude minnow
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No point. Just go Merc system

junior plover
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Do i get bonus honor as ally merc?

stray sigil
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no u dont

clear pulsar
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Horde has waaaaay more shit in lfg it's way faster making a group or finding one for anything ever

junior plover
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LOL

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see

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how does that make sense

clear pulsar
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Give us the fucken honor bonus

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Idc bro

junior plover
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if its for queue times then horde merc should get it too

crude minnow
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Or just make normal bgs horde v horde capable

junior plover
crude minnow
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Idk the faction war is so played out. Fuck it at this point

echo crescent
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so you saying all leggo work on any specs?

junior plover
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Yep

crude minnow
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Imagine if sleeper worked for feral or balance incarn. Aura mastery + incarn + convoke pepekarp

junior plover
echo crescent
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oh that wld be sick

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meh incarn of feral is crap

junior plover
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Okay bois

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What's the most feral like class

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taking suggestions

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my bet is on WW monk

stray sigil
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assa rog ?

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xd

junior plover
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2021 feral

copper lintel
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Running orders will as balance if I'm running double dps 2s?

junior plover
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I just need to figure out my alt but I don't wanna stray too far from the light

clear pulsar
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Idk if I'm playing double dps I'd probably try to just kill faster!?

copper lintel
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Lose out some burst but help loads with survivability and have a second dps anyway

little temple
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Can you get glad mount from RBG?

junior plover
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No

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Nor from 2v2

crisp pulsar
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Based on video and guilds on PvP, the key to success is to trick your opponent to use defensive cool down. When their defensive and trinkets are in cooldown, focus fire one person down. However, I always just got killed by my opponent in one wave even with my defensive on. How can I improve from this stage?

edgy shale
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glad mount is from glad lol

vapid crane
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Is balance a dog spec for dueling

tender swift
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can someone help me with rbg boomy, idk what i'm doing wrong, but i can't get over 2.1k dps for some reason

cold linden
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What's the strongest balance comp in 3v3

blissful belfry
crude minnow
#

In rbgs your meter dps isn't the goal, it is kill pressure with starsurges. But you generally should be top 3 in rbg damage of you're in team fights

tender swift
#

top damage or top dps on recount?

crude minnow
#

Cyclone healers or dps. Root melee. Root beam healers. Dot most peeps. Go for starsurges kills on kill targets. Don't press's starfall. That's it really. Of they go you, barkskin, get to a better position and start dps again.

clear pulsar
#

Top damage should be the same as top dps on recount

#

That's not really a thing

#

Idk

vapid crane
#

unless you're trying to rot

#

right

crude minnow
#

If you win with rot, you would have won sooner with starsurges

#

I started to starfall in situations where there are 3+ other boomie/lock/spriest and their healers are dead, but that is so rare

#

If they have 2 disc priests, starfall does fucking nothing

vapid crane
#

If you aren't trying to rot

#

because you dont think it exists

#

there isn't much reason to starfall

#

I'm assuming you're playing with BOAT?

#

If you're starfalling there is no way you can pool 90asp for the start of each eclipse

#

its a bait

#

you aren't doing your single target burst, which you have said is the only viable form of damage

crude minnow
#

Enter and get 2 surges who cares. Your dots will give you ample AP while you are cc'ing in the meantime

vapid crane
#

?

crude minnow
#

Also dreambinder is still very good for rbgs

tardy hare
#

Starfall big waste of a button

vapid crane
#

Of course starfall is viable in RBGS

remote zealot
#

new balance druid and i see some legendary speak

#

oath of the elder druid a good one to start with? or more damage orientated

vapid crane
#

but its a bait in arena

tardy hare
#

What's the point in starfalling

edgy shale
#

I actually had people argue w/ me yesterday in an RBG group that I should be starfalling to rot them cuz we were gonna "oom" them

#

actually floored

tardy hare
#

When you can put someone out of the fight instead

#

Them dying 1 by 1 is way more valuable than a wipe in most maps

crude minnow
#

Go play a disc priest in rbgs and tell me starfall does anything

vapid crane
#

Wait are you guys really not using starfall in rbgs 4head

edgy shale
#

bro, it was double disc. the plan is to spam starfall to oom the disc preists

#

DUH

tardy hare
#

Ofc not

vapid crane
#

4head holy shit lmao

tardy hare
#

What rating are you?

vapid crane
#

I don't play RBGs

tardy hare
#

: )

vapid crane
#

You don't need to play RBGs to spot that ones a bit funky

edgy shale
#

starfall is really good if ur trying to win the damage meter game instead of the actual game

tardy hare
#

Clown

#

: )

edgy shale
#

swind i promise u SS > starfall in RBGs

stray sigil
#

use starfall to get out stealthies

#

about it

#

LUL

tardy hare
#

Starfall doesnt get stealthers

#

U ape

stray sigil
#

??

#

if u walk into the zone

#

u get out of stealth

tardy hare
#

No?

crude minnow
#

I will use it if I'm gonna overcap and I'm not in a situation to get into eclipse and there is no good target atm. That's it really

tardy hare
#

Like previous expansions, sure you could starfall

#

Now its just hella wastr

#

Waste*

rigid linden
#

Nice bois

#

We 226 ilvl

crude minnow
#

People also shit talk dreambinder in rbgs but if you don't wanna rely on convoke it is sick. If you just lay 6 surges in 1 target that is sharpened they will die

edgy shale
#

dam really? what vers

tardy hare
tardy hare
#

Are

crude minnow
#

I've been kicked from a group for being the lowest boomie damage but most of the killing blows. Pretty nuts

edgy shale
#

I literally run the most troll leggo possible in RBGs, pulsar, and my SS already clap ppl so hard. Can't even imagine +20% MORE SS dmg

tardy hare
#

Rbg people are also PES_Clown

edgy shale
#

yeah, i've had ppl get mad at me for not having like 2 mill overall dmg

#

its like IM NOT SPAMMING STARFALL U DUMB FUCKS

vapid crane
#

Is there a reason you're running pulsar and not using starfall

#

why aren't you using dreambinder

crude minnow
#

I usually go dreambinder if I am gonna sit a base at all

vapid crane
#

or something more orientated around starsurge dmg

edgy shale
#

I should be using dreambinder lol, i use pulsar cuz I crafted it like week 1 for M+

#

plus i main feral so i have mainly feral leggos

tardy hare
#

When i sit a base i go guardian with sleeper lego OMEGALUL

edgy shale
#

o

#

that's kinda busty actually lol

#

u can prob spin fo 3 hours

tardy hare
#

Dude our eye of the storm tact

#

Is

crude minnow
#

I don't join a group that wants me to sit all game lol. If I sit I atleast try to rotate into team fights for cds

tardy hare
#

Prot pal guardian druid deffing bases

#

Meanwhile rogue and boomy go cap bases

#

Rest spins mid

chrome panther
#

so you 6v8 mid?

#

yikes

tardy hare
#

Who cares

#

We get 3 bases

#

We lose teamfight anyway if 8v8

crude minnow
#

I've lost games hard against teams that spin and rotate well even if we "win" fights

tardy hare
#

I play feral

#

Straight up refuse to def

#

Gg

stray sigil
#

if they see both tanks on d

#

and they dont see boomy rog

#

they just double sit

#

lol

tardy hare
#

Aye you'd think that ye

crude minnow
#

I have sleeper and happily run flag, but I just don't like it otherwise

edgy shale
#

well then its 6v6 mid at least, and u can prob take em by surprise at least a cap or 2

tardy hare
#

But rbg players are hella special

stray sigil
#

ya i mean itd prob work once

tardy hare
#

3 eots winstreak at 2.5-2.6 with that tact

edgy shale
#

I thought RBG games were gonna become more "skillful" as I gain cr, but its literally the SAME

tardy hare
#

Ez gg

stray sigil
#

after that they know whats gonna happen

edgy shale
#

feel 0 difference from 1500 rating

stray sigil
#

wont work again

stray sigil
#

difference in cr in rbgs

#

is how many boomy they take

edgy shale
#

lol

tardy hare
chrome panther
#

truth

tardy hare
#

They gotta get flag some day if they cant ever cap

#

We have 1 boomy

chrome panther
#

imagine not playing 3 boomie unbearable

stray sigil
#

i mean they just have ppl on the look out

#

and they win mid

#

lol

tardy hare
#

Met 2.7 team that ran double ret double rog, war, boomy

#

Xd

stray sigil
#

u have 2 useless classes on d

chrome panther
#

rets are fun

stray sigil
#

so that doesnt matter

chrome panther
#

watching them walk up to people

#

a bunch of flashy shit happens

#

someone dies

#

ONTO THE NEXT

tardy hare
#

Youre not fast enough from mid to flag tho

#

Unless you hover

#

Vs boomy rog

stray sigil
#

u have dh/boomy/monks to cover

chrome panther
#

bruh they will just hover

#

^^

#

when they see 2 tanks and boomy/rogue missing

#

its so obvious

tardy hare
#

Also half the apes dont know u can aoe from shadowy duel xd

chrome panther
#

but i forgot this is rbg monkey land

stray sigil
#

thats what im saying

tardy hare
#

Yes its hella obvious

#

But

#

Rbg people

#

Are fucking bad

#

Hello

chrome panther
#

2.5k mmr is 1.5k 3s

stray sigil
#

we had prot pal ww monk

#

do the

#

ring magic bop cheese

tardy hare
#

U forget most important thing

stray sigil
#

they saw it once

#

after that never workd

tardy hare
#

Its whatever

#

We cap bases on eots till 2.6 cr people

#

People are hella cooked

#

Its freee

chrome panther
#

obviously

#

i only que with a 5th of vodka beside me

tardy hare
#

Half my team is 2k max exp

#

Big monkeys

chrome panther
#

only way i can stand it is playing completely slammed

#

screaming at my shaman to give me skyfury and disc for archangel for PHAT CONVOKES

tardy hare
#

They walk to my base as 2 boomies

#

They both convoke

#

I just turnspeed 2500 spin around while i live

gusty arrow
#

Any tips to play against Monks in 2s? As a balance?

#

They are so annoying....

crude minnow
#

If you defend as a boomy, do you generally use your offensive cds vs em if it is a 1v1 fight? Like if I can kill em without it I can use my cds in team fight, but if I lose because they convoke it feels bad

#

Being greedy is prob bad lol

chrome panther
#

first one to beam loses

#

is usually how it goes.

#

usually u dont try to actually 1v1 tho

#

pop treants while yelling for a cover

tardy hare
#

Me as a guardian druid however

#

Run you back all the way where you came from

chrome panther
#

trying to 1v1 cap against guardian is actually

#

trolling

#

gl getting through 4 feral rejuvs

tardy hare
#

Aye they just come with 2/3

#

Very epic

#

Press incarn

chrome panther
#

and 30 sec of cc immune

tardy hare
#

Gg

#

Guardian fcs are actuslly biggest monkeys

#

They use every cd when they grab flag

#

For no reason

#

Absolute aped

#

Apes

chrome panther
#

well if rogue isn;t in mid

#

its good to incarn early

tardy hare
#

U dont need to press more than incarn tho

#

They all pop bark and wall too

#

Its so dumb

chrome panther
#

bruh

#

are you EU 2.5k mmr

tardy hare
#

Yes

chrome panther
#

🤣

tardy hare
#

Xd

crude minnow
#

I don't use sleeoer to grab flag. I save it till flag room unless I think if I use it mid I can cap when I get inside

chrome panther
#

LOL

#

explains so much

tardy hare
#

They are

#

Fucking clowns man

chrome panther
#

eu players man

tardy hare
#

Rbg scene is hella

#

Pepega

crude minnow
#

Is eu rbg more meme than na?

tardy hare
#

The people we play with are hardstuck 1700 in arena

#

And we pumping 2.5-2.6 mmr today

chrome panther
#

rbg NA since abn finally fucked off is nothing but drunk redacteds having a good time

#

1.8-2.4 is super serious tryhards

tardy hare
#

Aye

chrome panther
#

2.4 onwards is drunk idiots

crude minnow
#

I am like 1800ish 3s without too much effort and feel like 2300 mmr rbg is about the same difficulty

chrome panther
#

best part is we all have eachothers discords now

tardy hare
#

My team literally full of peoppe who play like athene

chrome panther
#

so we try and spy on eachother during games

#

with fake discord names

#

good memes

tardy hare
#

Xd

#

Just need 2 more wins

#

Then peace out

#

GG

#

Grand marshal and ditch

#

Log alt to get that capped instead PES_InterestedPoggers

crude minnow
#

I like rbgs more than arena unironically though

tardy hare
#

I like em cause i just fuck around and get points

#

While memeing the boys

#

Thats about it tho

#

Also fast cap for vault

crude minnow
#

Got to 1800 rbg rating on my warrior in like 6 hours total. Was nice

tardy hare
#

Think am almost at 90 games

#

Takes years

crude minnow
#

Sucks that winning at +500 mmr on your cr still gives like 20 points max past 1600

tardy hare
#

: )))))

#

Dont lose any rating ever tho

#

Is nice

#

Thought i'd perhaps lose some today

#

But nono

crude minnow
#

Hard finding groups of people at 2200+ mmr that are good but also not concentrated toxic sludge

chrome panther
#

unironically

#

get drunk

crude minnow
#

LOL how the fuck would I pay attention to the flag drunk

chrome panther
#

its nothing but toxic sludge till 2.4

#

jump around it while practicing your 360s

#

your a fucking guardian druid with like 70k hp right

#

people look at you and decide

#

naw dude

#

thats his base

viral granite
#

what conduits for pvp as balance

chrome panther
#

conflux > fury > the rest for potency

#

well honed > innate > barkskin cd for endurance

viral granite
#

and is boat the leggo

chrome panther
#

binder is fine also.

crude minnow
#

Or dreambinder. If you rely on convoke, boat, otherwise dreambinder. It isn't that simple but mostly true.

Supatease was running boat+kyrian for a weird FOE cleave? Idk

chrome panther
#

convoke doesn't work against wizard heavy teams, you'll get focus kicked 99% of the time

coral maple
#

Anyone else notice now since need u hit with more SS ??

#

Nerf ***

edgy shale
#

wait what lol

remote zealot
#

what about oath of the elder druid? or do we not need the extra defense

crude minnow
#

People prefer NOW for that situation I believe

clear pulsar
#

What about it?

remote zealot
#

was wondering if its a viable option

#

trying to decide what legendary to make

#

just hit 60 on my druid a week ago

crude minnow
#

Boat and dreambinder for balance. If you wanna upgrade those vs make other niche options is your choice

viral granite
#

if i got a melee on me shold i jsut go bear

#

or try and spam spells

stiff zodiac
#

what trinkets do we play in RBG as Balance? do we play Medaillon and on use? or whats recommended for Rated BGs

remote zealot
#

@crude minnow boat/dreambinder just personal pref? dreambinder seems cooler

fallow warren
#

is it possible to kite DKs?

#

whats the cd on grip?

#

as resto i mean

#

can i wildcharge it each time?

viral granite
#

should i run double end/pot for arena

queen copper
#

I think badge and proc is viable. Generally swap them mid match

forest kite
#

So we are all kyrian for pvp right

queen copper
#

Yea for sure

vapid crane
forest kite
#

Or is there anyone that still believes that convoke is the play in 3s

vapid crane
#

Convoke is very good in 3s

#

Why would it not be

forest kite
#

Because kyrian is more consistent imo

#

I’m not saying it’s bad

vapid crane
#

Go kyrian then

forest kite
#

Just saying which people think is better

#

And why

#

Because I like hearing opinions

vapid crane
#

Burst is everything

gusty arrow
#

I play NF but Kyrian seems better in 3s

#

Every 1 min you can do a mini go

vapid crane
#

You have a strong win condition at every stage of the game with convoke

gusty arrow
#

Kyrian ABility + Beam + Trinket

#

all 1 min

vapid crane
#

If they make a mistake and don't have a way to stop your go you literally just oneshot someone

forest kite
tepid spoke
#

they always have a way to stop your convoke

vapid crane
#

Mah

#

Nah*

tepid spoke
#

its unrealistic saying they dont

forest kite
#

What cr you playing at swind?

vapid crane
#

If you cast it in Los of two players while they both have a kick up and a cc

#

You're a fucking clown

forest kite
#

?

#

Just asking what elo

vapid crane
#

2k in 2s and 3s

#

I have virtually no time to PvP between raiding and irl work

tepid spoke
#

every class has like 3 ways to stop convoke

#

so you are saying

vapid crane
#

But got to 2k very quickly just pressing convoke like a mong

tepid spoke
#

you are casting convoke after 9 stops are used

vapid crane
#

You need to play around their ability to stop it

#

Right

tepid spoke
#

lol

vapid crane
#

People make mistakes every single game

#

I imagine you are getting stormbolted by a warrior in the middle of the arena in Los of the other two enemy players like "man this sucks it's so easy to stop!!"

forest kite
#

Dog why so toxic we just talking haha

vapid crane
#

He's being a mong

#

Also review his chat history in pve chat

#

If you can give it you can take it right

edgy shale
#

wtf lol

gusty arrow
#

I "only" play 1.8 as Moonkin in 2s, but already there I get often denies with Convoke, and yes, I try to play around the abilities like kick

edgy shale
#

why r u stalking him

forest kite
#

No he’s being up a great point if they blow everything without saving something to stop convoke, they’re trolling

vapid crane
#

I'm not

gusty arrow
#

but every class has 2-3 abilities to counter you

#

port away

vapid crane
#

I talk in there often

gusty arrow
#

use big cds

#

a joke

edgy shale
#

fair, enough

vapid crane
#

I have been a regular since tomb of sargeras

edgy shale
#

balance channel must have so much "HEY WHAT LEGGO"

#

so many fotm players

forest kite
#

You’re sitting here as a “2k” player saying he’s a fucking clown when he’s right. You aren’t even playing against good players.

#

So chill the fuck out

vapid crane
#

I am not a good player no

#

But he's definitely still being a mong right

#

I take cognisance there are a lot of ways to stop it

#

All agreed on that front?

#

You also have to play around things which aren't stops

tepid spoke
#

id argue

#

i am more useful

#

than you in pve chat

#

so idk what you on about

vapid crane
#

If a DK has his army out and a monk has his pet out

#

It's not a stop

tepid spoke
#

also i play at a higher rating than you in arena

edgy shale
#

uhh, Im def not reading all it, but kyrian and NF are both good so idk wat the point of fighting is

vapid crane
#

But you don't push convoke

tepid spoke
#

and i am saying

#

convoke is easily stopable

vapid crane
#

There's more than just stops to play around

tepid spoke
#

even if you play it at the most perfect scenarios

#

convoke is just a nice side thing to have

#

for procing niyas mastery buff

#

and deleting someone with incarn 5 ss

vapid crane
#

It's very strong and to argue it isn't is kind of odd

#

You have a win condition in your pocket all the time if anyone makes a mistake on the enemy team

#

You don't need more dialogue than that on it

tepid spoke
#

sure

#

and with kyrian you have a win condition once every min

#

take your pick

vapid crane
#

It's not to the same effect

#

It's very strong damage right

#

I concede that

#

But you don't literally remove someone from the game if they make a mistake

queen copper
#

You don’t even need full convoke for it to be useful

#

Just don’t expect full uses and it’s still a pumper.

forest kite
vapid crane
#

Don't need to do that mate

#

You can be higher rating than someone else and still be wrong right

gusty arrow
#

tru

forest kite
#

Yes that’s why I’m asking him to because I don’t believe him

tepid spoke
#

you can search yourself

vapid crane
#

It's just sort of odd to lead those lines of enquiry I've always found them odd

tepid spoke
#

if you really want to look at it

#

like who cares

#

nick is mattiu

stray sigil
#

whats the argument about

#

ill tell u whos the clown

vapid crane
#

He said convoke is useless

#

Because they can just stop it

tepid spoke
#

yes i said exactly that

vapid crane
#

I said he's a clown

tepid spoke
#

lmfao

edgy shale
#

actually, if sum1 has 1 point rating higher than u, everything u say is wrong and everything they say is right

stray sigil
#

true im highest cr here

tepid spoke
#

please quote where

stray sigil
#

u are all clowns

tepid spoke
#

i said convoke is uselss

stray sigil
#

i am right

tepid spoke
#

can you even read

vapid crane
#

You said every class has a way to stop it right

forest kite
#

He seemed to have called you a fucking clown before you even said anything lol

tepid spoke
forest kite
#

Mattiu also running that night fae so I’m a little confused hahah

tepid spoke
#

literally my first words

#

you claiming

#

convoke can never be stopped

#

if you play it perfectly

vapid crane
#

Nope

tepid spoke
#

thats my point, and thats wrong

#

yes

#

stop contradicting yourself lmao

vapid crane
#

Excuse me

#

I am contradicting you?

forest kite
#

Also swind homeboy is not lying about his rating = better player than you

#

Now I’m contemplating if you even are 1800 with how spergy you’re being swind

tepid spoke
#

You are putting shit in my mouth that im not saying

tulip falcon
#

oh boy

tepid spoke
#

like "i said convoke is useless"

vapid crane
#

You said convoke can always be stopped right

stray sigil
#

i dont get both sides

vapid crane
#

Agree?

stray sigil
#

but il lget out my popcorn

#

good drama in my server

tepid spoke
#

how does that mean convoke is useless

tulip falcon
tepid spoke
#

i dont understand

vapid crane
#

You said convoke can always be stopped right

#

Agree?

stray sigil
#

always the rodent boomies starting shit

#

never the kats

tulip falcon
#

lol

tepid spoke
#

convoke can be stopped but still has time to give you asp or 1-2 surges

#

and the niya buff

stray sigil
tepid spoke
#

which is what wins the games

#

not convoke by itself

clear pulsar
#

When i start shit i have rudimentary numbers

stray sigil
#

what the fuck did u just say to me

clear pulsar
#

It's great

stray sigil
#

u are def an ape

#

there is no denying that

clear pulsar
#

Yes

vapid crane
#

Relative to either a scenario where you get a cast off or the scenario where you're playing kyrian always having it stopped would make it relatively useless though right

clear pulsar
#

But an ape that can do 1+1

vapid crane
#

It's definitely not good to have convoke if it just gets kicked every time you cast it after 1-2 seconds

tulip falcon
#

this is literally an argument of semantics more than anything of substance

vapid crane
#

It is now

#

But I'm having to work from the start through what we said right

clear pulsar
#

Let it continue @tulip falcon

stray sigil
clear pulsar
#

Stop trying to deescalate pls

tulip falcon
#

lol

#

the show must go on

clever knoll
#

hey guys, just my input from an average 1.8k player pov. i've played kyrian and nf in both 2s and 3s. the way i see it, kyrian is very reliable dmg boost, but also very predicatable. With nf, there's is always convoke as a win condition in itself though quite rng at times. pros and cons for both

sand folio
#

Lol random question maybe will start up another argument: I’m new to the game want to learn pvp good streamers to watch that actually go into detail or you tubers

#

For boomsters

#

For a boomer

vapid crane
#

And it does happen

#

Every day

#

You don't need to be 3800 to take it to the logical conclusion

tulip falcon
#

i love seeing kyrian vs nf arguments

#

same shit every time

vapid crane
#

Ya it's literally a shitpost

drowsy sluice
#

I feel like I’m getting completely melted in 2v2s by some classes like rogue and combusting mage and monk. Am I just bad at using my defensives or burst meta stronk or what?

stray sigil
#

@vestal citrus 2/10

drowsy sluice
#

Not stacking enough Vers I know that will help I think I’m at 17%, my gut says I need to play positionally better to avoid getting nuked so easily

stray sigil
#

@tulip falcon good slut mog

tulip falcon
#

😉

stray sigil
#

ur human

edgy shale
#

I WAS TYPING THAt

stray sigil
#

and can only see ur tabard

#

it is

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TRASH

tulip falcon
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foot fetish mog

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sus

vapid crane
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You guys are fucked

edgy shale
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u gotta expect meme mogs from a class where u dont even see mog most of the time lol

tulip falcon
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i dont actually use mine

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i just have it saved

vapid crane
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I have only used transmog on weapon slot this xpac

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The no transmog "default shadowlands tauren male" look I have going on is kind of ppg

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Pog

edgy shale
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my druid mog isn't quite as horrific as ur guys' but, i put 0 effort into it vs. other classes

tulip falcon