i tried highmountain tauren
#pvp
clear pulsar
Mechagnome, orc, troll depending on spec are all equally ahead of shit like worgen and kultiran and zandalari troll
Ykno?
Like meld is great for sure
But honestly bro warstomp is pretty deco too
edgy shale
yeah
tulip falcon
ye war stomp is nice but i just find theres more interesting racials
edgy shale
kicking people off the map w/ kul-tiran sounds funny tho
clear pulsar
Speedy gonzales zandalari 5% movespeed loa dont @ me
tropic kiln
KT is fun for punting in EOTS rbgs. That's what I tell myself to justify taking my alt KT for the forms, lol.
tulip falcon
lol real
if i was ally i don't think i could play KT because of how they look outside of forms though
edgy shale
i was stuck on that 5% loa for 3 days cuz im a dumbass and i wasn't too bad lol
tropic kiln
Ssshh - you'll hurt her feelings.
tropic kiln
haha
tulip falcon
ye ill probably be accused of being a fat shamer or bigot
edgy shale
i like em. I'd play 1 if I were alliance
tiny oar
Speedy gonzales zandalari 5% movespeed loa dont @ me
I did that s2 with feral aff 3x longstrider had like 42% increased movespeed baseline 
tulip falcon
they could've just been done a lot better
kindred galleon
I’m a glyph of stars KT balance Druid AMA
clear pulsar
Fem kt is hot af
tiny oar
edgy shale
uhh, i trhink its technically a new model but it def seem slike a scaled up panda lol
tulip falcon
ive not played a female since like mop
back when everyone was djicelanceqtx with slutmogs
bitter harness
edgy shale
bitter harness
you guessed wrong
tulip falcon
fuck
bitter harness
good idea tho
clear pulsar
You can say the word black yes!?
It's only weird if you make it weird
You weirdo
tulip falcon
that's not what i was thinking 🙄
edgy shale
tulip falcon
lol
gusty siren
Is starfall used in pvp?
last basin
tardy hare
bitter harness
clear pulsar
That's a lvl 10 still 100%
clear pulsar
One day
tardy hare
f
tiny oar
f
kindred galleon
@me
edgy shale
f
tropic kiln
Disgusting FAT rp race
*w/ wolf form
tiny oar
rp ruski
we shit talk tian but he prolly wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes
tardy hare
True
clear pulsar
Lmao no
bitter harness
Lmao no
tulip falcon
has anyone else just always saw him as niko bellic
bitter harness
COUSIN
tulip falcon
niko bellic's origin story
couldnt unsee it since i watched it after i played gta 4
small storm
looool tian memes
haughty nova
Hey noob question. Since pelagos and niya soulbind gives you a good chunk of mastery, doesn't that increase the value of crit due to the secondary Stat DR? (which kicks in at 30%)
forest kite
getting clapped by ww monks in 2's - just feels like constant pressure and i cant handle it
do i need to kite better or cc him or
resto druid ^
clear pulsar
Hey noob question. Since pelagos and niya soulbind gives you a good chunk of mas...
Pretty sure the DR only affects stats from gear
Still 17.5 per 1% with 16 stacks of Grove right now
Regardless
livid wasp
is jungle supposed to struggle against rets
livid wasp
feels like we only beat them if ret is bad enough to not bubble when they die
haughty nova
@clear pulsar I see. Thanks! 🙂
lime light
@clear pulsar it works on bl so stop talking kid
fast sundial
It took me 0.3 s to react to a bookin's convoke
in those 0.3s I received over 27k damage
go ahead and tell me how balanced is that
tulip falcon
just line bro
bitter harness
tulip falcon
😆
fast sundial
no full moon involved btw, convoke will still OP
bitter harness
somethign tells me Samael doesn't play boomy
lime light
btw convoke is nerfed almost useless 🙂
bitter harness
:)
fast sundial
Yup, Imma cat
tulip falcon
ye everyone going kyrian boiz
fast sundial
Venthir
bitter harness
xd
haughty compass
Kyriwn predictable and boring
devout phoenix
How do you land convoke without getting kicked? I feel like I need to wait and do my go after the enemy team has already gone but even then it seems like the enemy team won’t go until they see me convoke. Like I played vs a rogue yesterday who wouldn’t kick the whole game because I think he was waiting for my convoke (we won because he wouldn’t kick lol)
tulip falcon
cross cc
getting people in bad positioning
etc
if you just cast it in their face then ye they will kick it
fast sundial
thats it
unless you are me and get the big crits before you can even press the interrupt button
tulip falcon
lol
fast sundial
I don't play balance though
clear pulsar
NECROGANG
fast sundial
btw we are druids, everything which is not night fae is wrong
but hey, op shit is op
tiny oar
necrogang 
clear pulsar
tulip falcon
it's never going to get nerfed so they can let us roleplay with the fairies and have a cover up
fast sundial
it's never going to get nerfed so they can let us roleplay with the fairies and ...
I like that comment more than I'm willing to admit
clear pulsar
How do you land convoke without getting kicked? I feel like I need to wait and d...
Cyclone bash maim typhoon vortex incaproar root
Very many tools
Yes!?
That's not even a question, they'll never make Convoke irrelevant just like they'll never make Kyrian irrelevant for paladins.
fast sundial
yup
clear pulsar
It's like the 2 covenant-class matches made in the shadowlands
fast sundial
btw I'm aware I got fucked by rng, don't take me too serious
tulip falcon
ye
i was sorta pissed when everyone thought the only viable thing would be kyrian during beta
clear pulsar
Buff adaptive swarm 
haughty compass
Kyrian is cool, but so boring
devout phoenix
Yeah lots of tools, I picked up druid last week to help my raid team (we only have 8 dps and 3 of us are arms warriors LOL), my first time playing not-Arms-warrior in 12 years and it’s very weird not being in melee
haughty compass
Every root beam you get defensives though
tulip falcon
feral has cyclone
devout phoenix
Sorry those were two separate statements
clear pulsar
Yeah they play the same way
devout phoenix
If I’m being trained do I pretty much have to sit in bear form?
clear pulsar
Put up both your dots, surge = bite, build and spend, cyclone people, offheal people, do big dam, etc
sand panther
Any tips for surviving vs melee cleaves or rogue/mage when starting a 2s match as boomie? Usually arena as my resto sham, so trying boomie is very different. i.e. total newb
devout phoenix
I feel like I get trained a lot
stone nest
just had a dh lose a base cause "he wasnt looking at the flag" lol
harsh jasper
what seems to be having the best 3s success with feral?
PWF?
PRF?
Jungle?
HWarlockF?
tulip falcon
if it's dh tank they can def pretty decently
clear pulsar
Hello speak my language
lime light
?
harsh jasper
priest warrior feral
late stirrup
whats best spec for torghast, boomie ?
harsh jasper
Holy Paly Warlock Feral
clear pulsar
Ok so
clear pulsar
There are popular names or acronyms already, don't make up new ones just write out the entire comp yeah!?
clear pulsar
if you don't know what the comp is usually referred to
clear pulsar
tulip falcon
a lot of those comps arent great anymore
clear pulsar
Idk anything works tho like
harsh jasper
I figured it changes from season to season
clear pulsar
It's better to play with friends or people you can queue with consistently and improve together
Than cycle thru lfg meta comps
Ret feral should be dandy
Feral lock maybe, but feral spr just better I think
tulip falcon
ye for sure
clear pulsar
Feral mage and jungle are bis
harsh jasper
feral mage in 2s?
tulip falcon
oh ye i tried ebola as well first week with some friends that came back
but the state of the game made them quit now
clear pulsar
Probably fine in 2s but I'm talking 3s dur
orchid ravine
which is the best pvp leggo for resto?
harsh jasper
oh gotcha so feral mage healer
tulip falcon
we were motivated to push glad as ebola
then first 2 weeks of season were uh
yea
not fun
getting globalled by mm hunters and rogues
crude minnow
The supatease vid with boomy/dk/healer was interesting. I feel like kyrian arms would work better tho
clear pulsar
Maybe but frost dk is so absolutely obnoxious bro
Like arms has a bloated af support kit but
CD increase aura + CD increase on movement disease
Are sooooooooooooo annoying
crude minnow
Cold streak is pretty nuts too.
clear pulsar
Frost dk is easily the most unfun spec to play against
Like they're not broken just
I want to press my fucken buttons
brave shuttle
What comp is ebola?
crude minnow
I'll give it to blizz for having a relatively low tier melee still having a place due to weird niche strong aspects
tulip falcon
dk/feral/x
harsh jasper
I just like the sound of ebola
lol
I have not played that comp yet
sounds like its basically a cleave that sticks on the healer?
and low CC , sounds perfect to me
crude minnow
I'm assuming ebola cleave relies on alot of cc from feral tho
harsh jasper
just going off the wowhead guide
tulip falcon
yeah it's lacking in cc a bit compared to other comps, it wasn't really my thing
livid wasp
hpala is so broken so sick of them in 3s
stray sigil
LMFAO
modest sage
I'm pushing in rbgs and had a question about boomy priority. Most of the top 10 run twin moons and seemingly play rot comp since they usually have locks. On a team without locks is it still worth twinmoon+and starfalling? It feels like padded damage as opposed to setting up for a triple or quad starsurge more often.
blissful belfry
Why are people so salty about convoke?
cold escarp
blissful belfry
Hell, i even killed a boomy with it and he came cryin in whisper about how much im gay
U A BOOMY
umbral citrus
U a gay? 🌜 Convoke is fun, love when ppl whsiper me and complain 😁
Should try with a prot pala in 2s for queens into convoke :p we hit 2.1k pretty fast with it
tardy hare
I'm pushing in rbgs and had a question about boomy priority. Most of the top 10 ...
it's never worth to starfall
people don't die from a couple dots
they die from huge stars being yeeted at their heads
modest sage
My damage got brought into question when we faced some 2400 teams since the other boomies were using starfall. I said it was padded damage but the damage discrepancy was kinda large.
tardy hare
only starfalls you should use are automatic ones from convoke
2.4 teams have absolute clowns of boomies in them aswell
umbral citrus
I agree with machtig use starsurge to pump single targets
tardy hare
also killing 1 target at a time splits them up way more
implying you'd kill multiple as "rot" comp
modest sage
That was my impression as well, but charts look bad and I got some shit for it
tardy hare
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tulip falcon
starfall can work if you're running a comp designed around shit like that
for example i see areyt on EU queueing 4 boomkins 2 locks just rotting with starfalls and whatever else
otherwise dont use it
better to dump everything into single target
your damage isnt going to be as high on meters sure but it doesnt matter
modest sage
starfall can work if you're running a comp designed around shit like that
We're running no locks and more direct kill pressure so I changed my playstyle to match it but when you lose and reflect on a game, meters get brought up at times
quick root
Is there a particular boomkin legendary that is better to use for RBGs than in 2s or 3s?
modest sage
Boat and dream are the only 2
More crits or 4 starsurges. Typically dream with kyrian
tulip falcon
you should still be able to do good meter damage even playing single target so without knowing the specifics i can't really say
they still top unless afflis are banging hard
modest sage
I usually sit a bit above the other dps but def outshined if there is a free casting lock or a boomie using stars a lot
tulip falcon
yea if afflis are left relatively alone they'll usually top
if they are doing it in the way of comparing damage (i.e comparing to a boomkin doing nothing but aoe) then they are peabrains
but ye i dont know the specifics so couldn't really say
but just focus on single target damage unless you're comping and playing around rot
which most people aren't
simple wind
maldraxus or nightfae for resto in arenas?
anybody have expirience and is rated higher that can say?
teal hinge
Resto is so poop right now. I would reroll hpal
simple wind
my main is hpal so im looking to have this char too
teal hinge
Ahh
blissful belfry
Looking at total dmg done in rbg is just super stupid. Did you get sent to hold a base? Were you running a flag at some point? Did you prio dmg or padded?
big dam, 0 killing blow. okay
tulip falcon
ye depends on maps too
tardy hare
frick we just in one
clear pulsar
If you dont do pve there is absolutely no good reason not to be necro
As resto @simple wind
clear pulsar
Other than idk you have fun killing people with convoke in 2s!? It's not really good it's just fun to play like that
simple wind
how noticable is the maldraxus ability as healing in 2s?
clear pulsar
Bout tree fiddy
Idk like, very!? It's a 30% healing buff on the target
The only thing it doesn't affect is Swiftmend
Like that's not to say you can't win games without it, naturally playing great is great
And mmarkers is like idk 2.6k as night fae
simple wind
should i wait until i get the swiftmend legendary or craft any other until then( in 3 weeks when boss is up)? since its from world boss and its not a guaranteed drop i suppose?
clear pulsar
I haven't seen anyone say it didn't drop for them
Idk any legendary will do something ye!? Some people play Draught, does a good bit of extra damage, and works with Germination too for heals
Circle is also good dam and some HPS increase but it's a bit annoying
For RBGs people say the wild growth one is pretty good
forest kite
2400 easier in 2s or 3s?
blissful belfry
world boss leggo are guaranteed
simple wind
nice
then im waiting
is there an alternative for that legendary in pvp? what could work instead of it? sephuz?
clear pulsar
In 2s you end up queueing into multiglads generally lower in rating than in 3s. But 2s is way more chill to play. Idk depends on you.
clear pulsar
Well 2.4 in 2s is like top 150 on ladder
forest kite
like the ceiling rating
clear pulsar
Yeah
forest kite
i hit 2100 in 2s on 2 characters
clear pulsar
Yeah the best players play way more 3s, so 2s inflation is pretty low
2s has a lot of the good players tanking rating doing carries and viewer games and stuff
blissful belfry
i cant get 2.4, im a 3 IQ convoke presser. i wish i had a brain
hollow coral
can feral work in pvp ?
clear pulsar
No reroll arms warrior
hollow coral
oof
clear pulsar
there's 900 sitting above 2.4 in 2s on eu
170 in NA
tardy hare
wtf
clear pulsar
Just people don't play idk
Like you can definitely get 2.4 in 2s without being as good as kubzy
Like kubzy, gorecki, thug, a lot of rank 1s are around 2.4 in 2s but it just goes to show no one plays
You don't have to beat them to climb to 2.4 cuz they're not the ones spam queueing
It's all just regular people or multirank1s doing carries
clear pulsar
It's only 2s really
Idk why
But like in 3s, top 500 is 2716 in NA, 2738 in EU
Top 1000 is around 2586/2609
junior sable
Can anyone give some advice, in how to climb as a Feral/rshaman in 2s? We're hardstucked at 1350 lol. 2k xp, but for somereason we cant get past ww monks and paladins
hollow coral
oh im sorry if it was a weird question
i really like feral gameplay
but i tend to destroy them on my main (fire mage)
so i had to ask
hollow coral
yeah my druid has been resto till now and i just feel so weak in pvp
primal bane
druid in general is the most underused class compared to its strength
chrome panther
discount rogues that can crit 15k bites back to back to back
harsh jasper
@clear pulsar do you mostly focus the healer in kitty cleave?
chrome panther
hollow coral
mana is the biggest issue ive faced as resto so far
primal bane
if you play shadowplay with a resto
against average 3s comp
when u run out of mana with these 2 huge dmg dealers
hollow coral
and being able to cc with mighty bash+cyclone makes for fun gameplay
primal bane
enemy disc priest will be about 30%
when u run out of mana, hpal will still be 50%
like thats unbelievably bad
hollow coral
yeah
hollow coral
because atleasst resto druid can save themselves
as a fire mage if i see a MW i focus it before anything else
and its free rating
druid tends to have too few insta heals outside of tree of life for me to notice as a mage aswell
hollow coral
wall?
tardy hare
mw just fucking dies
restive cairn
any pvp guide for boomies?
pale dagger
what enchants does boomies go
white sun
what conduits are nightfae boomies using?
haughty compass
Convoke / stars / honed / and the regen one
hoary ledge
carrying a friend in 2s, would NOW be the play or should i just keep running dream binder?
white sun
which is stars? and is this in the dreamweaver soulbind?
hoary ledge
low cr so i can just live lord and kite out cds
tardy hare
which is stars? and is this in the dreamweaver soulbind?
Niya is the way to go
white sun
Niya is the way to go
okay so go niya for mastery and which conduit is stars ?
tardy hare
Dont know
white sun
well which conduits do u recommend?
tardy hare
I just play my feral conduits
white sun
ahh i see. ok
tardy hare
As long as you have well honed its gud
chrome panther
conflux > fury > the rest for potency.
well-honed > innate > tough as bark for endurance.
fervent imp
Fury of the Skies i guess
plain hill
Do resto druids play NF in pvp?
haughty stirrup
How are you guys getting pressure out outside of convoke as NF? Using BOAT right now and I feel like I get no damage out sometimes
blissful belfry
you kill in convoke, then you peel for 3 min, you convoke again
i always convoke in incarn. convoke no incarn feels so weak
if you play dreambinder, you can do set-ups cc and foe into 5 surges in a row
but with boat nf, your main win condition is convoke
haughty stirrup
i was going to ask that, do you think dreambinder might be a better option?
blissful belfry
depends on your preference and playstyle, if you have a good friend who can time some burst with your 5 surge td, its better, if your friend is trash and you have to solo. Convoke boat is the best tool
so i convoke boat
5 surge td is also better as kyrian
haughty stirrup
i feel like convoke is hard to get off sometimes, esp in 3s
yeah i know, i'm just trying to avoid re-grinding renown -.-
blissful belfry
yes, the real trick is to line the 2 dps and convoke solo the healer that cant stop you (disc or hpal)
woven mural
hpal can just hoj
blissful belfry
convoke hit anything in LoS so it can ruin you if all 3 are there to soak it. (and with pets its even worse) but if you can finda pillar or something to line the rest of the team. 1- they cant cut you if they cant see you 2-They dont soak hits
hpal HoJ is 20 yards
you convoke him from further away
haughty stirrup
yeah, feelsbad when it gets spread
blissful belfry
it depends on the other team and your play
blissful belfry
you cant always line them and convoke, but you can find small windows for it. i have a clip where i convoke a disc, his mage has to blink in LoS to db me, but its too late and the priest dies
like this actually, i found it again
grand mesa
I got range from target WA for that. You can convoke at 40 yards and it’ll hit spells. Most melee stuns are 20. But yeah I hear you on 0 pressure outside of CAvoke with boat
blissful belfry
line the team on the pillar, focus on the healer
yeah, i have 1200 games. and as of now, i have never killed a target myself without convoke
woven mural
like i said, big map
grand mesa
Pooling a ton of AP into a fresh eclipse with boat and fury does some I feel
haughty stirrup
yeh that was good positioning
clear pulsar
if you play dreambinder, you can do set-ups cc and foe into 5 surges in a row
No. This is what you should do regardless of your covenant and legendary lmao.
"You can do setups with rootbeam I GUESS" ???
blissful belfry
like i said, big map
I've done it on hook point with the walls
clear pulsar
That's how you play arena bro
You throw out cross cc and dump your damage
It doesnt matter what your talents legendaries covenant are
haughty stirrup
agreed, I just feel like im wet noodling outside convoke
clear pulsar
Then don't put all your eggs into one basket
haughty stirrup
probably the way we're playing as a team though
blissful belfry
i know face, but whenever i do set-ups and shit with root beam and clones, my triple surge can barely chunk off 40% hp
clear pulsar
Most of the value out of that legendary is on CA doubling the crit buff
blissful belfry
and i have nbothing left after
haughty stirrup
feels the same
hoary ledge
are you making sure you're in eclipse?
haughty stirrup
yeah
fiery sage
Have a question regarding honor gear. Should I be spending my honor on honor gear even if I’m not going to use it? Wasn’t sure if the gear would become more valuable going into a new season.
I assume pve gear should out pace honor gear but wasn’t sure.
clear pulsar
New season comes with new items
That's why the items are named after the seasonal title
fiery sage
Oh gotcha.
clear pulsar
Honor gear caps out at 197 which is the same as covenant campaign gear, so idk if you just do campaign you should fill out your armor slots without needing to use up honor
Then you also get a 187 weapon
From campaign
blissful belfry
feels the same
But yeah, to come back to the main point, if you play boat, you have to commit a kill on convoke, if you want to have windows more often you play TD
clear pulsar
So can save up honor for trinkets and upgrading conquest gear
haughty stirrup
Gotcha
blissful belfry
boat convoke can by all means get you to 2.1 - 2.2
but the higher you go, the harder it is
to actually get satisfying convoke
fiery sage
I’m 210+ ilvl right now, but I’ve been honor capped for a few weeks w/o anything to spend it on. I guess I could buy the gear for the xmog
clear pulsar
Really? I have like no honor ever
The shit I buy from vendor isn't even fully upgraded yet
Got 3 conq items that still need upgrades
blissful belfry
all my conq gear is upgraded to 226. exept for a pvp trinket i actually forgot to upgrade and then tanked my rating
How many conq piece u bought?
clear pulsar
I bought necklace, 2 rings, chest, shoulder, and a conduit
Ended up taking m+ rewards my twice early cuz week 1 I had relent and adap from my pvp vault, then week 3 I got a 216 wep from m+ option and I wasn't saving conquest so it would take another 3 weeks to buy from vendor
clear pulsar
Yeah ofc brother
But mind you I had to dump 8k honor on upgrading my conq weapon that I got from vault
primal bane
there are so many convoke windows in a match
primal bane
especially vs melee/caster comps
blissful belfry
yeah, upgrading weapon cost a lot, i have yet to seea single weapon in my vault, from any source
clear pulsar
And idk I don't really pvp outside of playing arena with the boys
Which is pretty bad honor farm
primal bane
like your team needs to instantly realize whats going on
blissful belfry
true
primal bane
and stun the convoke target
blissful belfry
Rbg gives fat honor
clear pulsar
Yeah I've only done around 20 this season
blissful belfry
I've upped all my pieces. But i dont know if the cost comes into the equation too. i bought helm, chest, shoulders and belt? perhaps gloves too but im not sure if they were weekly vault or bought
clear pulsar
I have around 3.3k rn which is enough to upgrade my ring I think but I'll wait for vault see if I get a slot I need, if not I'd rather upgrade a new piece to 213 or 220 instead of ring to 226
haughty compass
Anyone use bell in pvp?
clear pulsar
Chest helm and pants cost 9875 each to upgrade from 200 to 226
2h weapon costs 19800.
Shoulder / gloves / belt / boots / trinket cost 8000
CC trinket / wrist / cloak / jewelry cost 5875
sullen spoke
okay pvp nerf to convoke. someone is arguing htat full moon within convoke gives us a 1800% astral power damage buff. making our starsurges hit harder. is that true?
blissful belfry
wat
clear pulsar
Looks like I've spent around 45k total honor upgrading items
blissful belfry
okay pvp nerf to convoke. someone is arguing htat full moon within convoke give...
I've never read bigger bullshit before
clear pulsar
okay pvp nerf to convoke. someone is arguing htat full moon within convoke give...
Can you idk directly quote, screenshot what they said? This makes absolutely no sense brother
So groschat
You see how much honor I've spent bro?
It's insanity
blissful belfry
hehehe
sly marsh
1800% starsurge boost, lmao
tardy hare
Looks like I've spent around 45k total honor upgrading items
You spend only that?
sly marsh
thats insane
stone nest
What a dumbass
sullen spoke
im calling bullshit on it.
clear pulsar
Yeah homeboy's fucking with you @sullen spoke
tardy hare
Spent*
blissful belfry
hahahahaha wat a dumby
blissful belfry
I spent 12k on weapon alone
You can spend honor on weapon if you actually have a weapon
clear pulsar
Oh yeah well I'm not 2.4 yet
tardy hare
I bought wep actuslly
primal bane
weapon has disgusting honor requirments
its like 13k to upgrade to 197 a honor weapon
primal bane
scared to find out how much you need to upgrade a conquest one
clear pulsar
2.2k is top 1000 in 2s NA @tardy hare
blissful belfry
so havent had to waste honor on it
clear pulsar
Yeah 2s is weird rn
blissful belfry
ya
clear pulsar
3s is where it's at but the healer I was queueing iwth tanked 300 rating playing with other people
blissful belfry
2s also takes 10 min a goddamn game, so it long
at least they bring back damp tues
blissful belfry
have anyone tried some double boomy shenanigans in 3s? I feel like the dh i play with is just a placeholder
blissful belfry
95% of our kills are me convoking something, the other 5% is hunting for 20k
clear pulsar
Since Convoke should ignore imprison
blissful belfry
Since Convoke should ignore imprison
it actualyl doesnt
blissful belfry
yeah, he cucked me so hard on a few goes man
imprisoning hte only LoS target i isolated
seein all de surges be like ''immune immune immune''
clear pulsar
Idk tho dh boomie rn probably ain't it
blissful belfry
aaaaaaaaaaa
clear pulsar
I mean it could be
Like if you coordinate hunt with double surge on a root beam + incap go
It's easy money
blissful belfry
his best utility is chaos nova the 2 dps away when i solo voke the heal, so they cant come stop me
clear pulsar
Yeah honestly what you can do it like
Try to get a restealth ye!?
Then DH chaos nova the dps into hunt on healer + your convoke
Should kill thru any DRs everytime
You just need space
And to position away from dps
blissful belfry
i've had success yesterday with healer one shots shenanigans up to 2186, then we tanked hard for some reason
but man are disc tanky
looka dat
clear pulsar
Idk if they're stunned I've killed disc thru PS with convoke a few times
They just all play the radiance talent
So it's tricky
Also are you playing fucken 70% interrupt reduction talent?
blissful belfry
meh, thorns its like a noodle stop it
clear pulsar
It's sooooo much dam
Just gotta use it when they commit CC
So they cant swap proper
blissful belfry
its barely any dam at all mate! i'd much rather get kicked on clone and have 1 sec lock instead of 3 and lcone again
tardy hare
Thorns does hella damage
blissful belfry
i mean, i pick thorns sometimes
clear pulsar
And then yeah emblem radiances
blissful belfry
yeah, i kinda want 2.4, but i dont have a pvp wep yet so idc
ima miss full moon in pvp, but its a needed change tbh
patent dove
what do you guys think we should do as sp/boom/rsham against afflock/sp/rsham or pally
blissful belfry
kill them
blissful belfry
patent dove
thx good advice
just felt glad mount drop in m ybags
we can't kill any of these guys
whenever we clone the lock and root beam the heal, the spriest simply lives by pressing trinket fade or disperse
topaz spruce
kill the lock
clear pulsar
yeah, i kinda want 2.4, but i dont have a pvp wep yet so idc
I think you gotta play dreambinder and just do stronger dam with rootbeam + incap goes
And you can just use Convoke on like a different time to force shit for no good reason!? Or snag a kill or something
What's hunt cd?
Idk I just really dislike BOAT bro
timid marsh
NF balance still good?? Icy-Veins says Kyrian is bis... doesn't feel right
blissful belfry
i love and hate convoke boat
tardy hare
Kyrian was always bis
timid marsh
Damn am i gonna have to drop convoke
tardy hare
No
primal bane
no
patent dove
no play convoke
topaz spruce
Its just that if you run dreambinder you might as well go kyrian. Just feels clunky as NF
primal bane
literally everyone runs convoke, 15% dmg boost is the most boring ability out of every covenant right now
blissful belfry
incarn convoek with boat at 103% crit chance in the first second is so fat, but when you cast 3 regrowth and 2 reju in the first 5 spells i just wanna leave the game
clear pulsar
Just do like
timid marsh
boat better than life and death? in arena
clear pulsar
Idk pop convoke to force trinkets with cyclone and fel eruption or something
topaz spruce
its just that outside of cavoke, you're just playing until your next go in 3 minutes. Makes sense why many choose kyrian for the 1 minute goes
clear pulsar
Then use the 16 stacks of Grove for a real go
chrome panther
uh
clear pulsar
chrome panther
alot of boomies are kyrian
primal bane
dreambinder is BiS, the 6 second window of boat is fun but its 6 seconds
blissful belfry
Then use the 16 stacks of Grove for a real go
yeah thats what i do when they have too many stops for convoke, i just pop it for mastery, then i carn 3 surge
especially against shammies
primal bane
a lot?
clear pulsar
Could be incarn 5 surge with Dreambinder
primal bane
85% of druids are night fae
blissful belfry
Could be incarn 5 surge with Dreambinder
yes, but iss carn 3 crit surge!
chrome panther
lol
clear pulsar
chrome panther
link me druid covs for balance above 2400
timid marsh
I am getting into balance arena, should I craft dreambinder or life and death?
chrome panther
binder
blissful belfry
binder
primal bane
but that has nothing to do with how many druids play convoke
patent dove
don't craft circle of life and death for arenas
timid marsh
ty guys
livid wasp
funny how everyones fotm rolled to moonkin nowadays rofl
primal bane
boomies above 2400? you want me to link all 4 of them?
blissful belfry
lol
primal bane
yeah theyre kyrian, and theyre also not invited to parties
clear pulsar
There are 250 boomies above 2.4 in 3s
chrome panther
who gives a fuck what cov sub 2.4 plays
clear pulsar
Don't question Cope bro
chrome panther
ill go on till glyph tells me to stfu
timid marsh
any good boomkin arena twitch streamer?
chrome panther
ye
primal bane
idk man convoke still too fun especially with comms
chrome panther
but green name scary
topaz spruce
moonfirebeam, chanb
chrome panther
blissful belfry
I play boat convoke just to laugh at brainded priest who MC instead of pressing healing spells https://clips.twitch.tv/WittyHandsomeLettuceDendiFace
primal bane
one second of a melee bad positioning and u get HOJ into convoke 2 seconds one shot
brave shuttle
Would you gentlemen recommend feral or boomie to do 2s with a SP? Want to go from 1600-2k
primal bane
feral
tardy hare
Glyph literally powerless
primal bane
has way more options if you dont win on the opener
tardy hare
Only cool colour
chrome panther
pretty sure 18/20 of the top balance druids are kyrian
so
stfu with "85% of boomkins play nf"
tardy hare
stfu with "85% of boomkins play nf"
Overall its true tho
primal bane
bitchass they still do
those 18 glad boomies
make up the entire state of kyrian boomies
chrome panther
lol?
primal bane
bc like
chrome panther
the only NF boomies at top rating are pve on the side and have to be NF
stop being intentionally dense
primal bane
the amount of people who are high enough where kyrian even becomes worse than convoke are counted in decimals
shit most people here reading wont be close to that level
tardy hare
Thelootdistrict hella wonky for spec cov representation tho
chrome panther
if you actually think swapping 15% dmg on your 1min go for a lulzy RNG meme 1shot every 3 mins is worth it
enjoy being trash forever
hollow junco
Enjoy being trash forever?
tardy hare
Poooogggg!!!!
hollow junco
Lmao try asking the awc guys if nf boomy is fine
hollow junco
No one
primal bane
thats where real men play the game
clear pulsar
Overall its true tho
Pve is 90% of the game ofc majority is night fae
chrome panther
If u take a look at top 10 boomy players
what table is this, top 10 boomies are 3200-2900 rating
clear pulsar
But like any arena cutoff above 2k it's like 60-40 split
tardy hare
what table is this, top 10 boomies are 3200-2900 rating
Top 10 players according to thelootdistrict xd
Hella dum
primal bane
awc proving how easy it is to setup convoke? nah why woudl i try to enjoy the game when this other choice here is 0.3% proven SUPERIOR
blissful belfry
At this point i think we can all say both nf and kyrian are viable. Kyrian having more controlled burst, nf having higher dmg output when well placed. You play the covenant you feel is the best or you prefer and you stop bothering the other players for liking what they like
blissful belfry
there are high rated in both
primal bane
its just really funny how kyrian boomies feel so superior for choosing a fucking statboost trinket just to be "better equipped"
clear pulsar
Literally no one gives a shit about feeling superior
You're making shit up that only you see
Like always
chrome panther
my god
primal bane
good analysis
vast vapor
elixir is superior too
chrome panther
85% of boomies aren't NF
clear pulsar
Banter is only funny when anyone cares for what you say or like talking to you
chrome panther
kyrian
blissful belfry
cope with it, Hi hi hi the word play
tardy hare
Not 1800+ gives 85%
primal bane
bruh thats actually so sad wtf
clear pulsar
No varush
chrome panther
w8 why are the icons mixed on this page
wtf is this trash website
arenamate shows entirely different info
tardy hare
Arenamate is NA only
primal bane
no info is 100% accurate
tardy hare
Right?
primal bane
except blizzard's
chrome panther
arenamate is both
primal bane
every API data shit has different info but its usually close to the same %
vast vapor
+15% is just insane on the triple-pentasurge for kill potential
tardy hare
Ah swear they didn't include eu for like a couple expansions
blissful belfry
be a real OG and play venthyr boomy in arena
vast vapor
enemy always 10% when I triplesurge them with nf
clear pulsar
It's more than 15% with pelagos too ofc
vast vapor
yeah
clear pulsar
And phial is great
primal bane
phial is amazing
clear pulsar
I don't get this whole 'convoke is fun to play and kyrian is boring' thing
Like
You just press convoke
primal bane
its my fav shit besides the mini-boomies that you can summon
tardy hare
Pressing convoke makes me happy
primal bane
thats literally it
chrome panther
its fun for sub 2k players to randomly one shot people
primal bane
it casts a fuckton of shit almost without GCD
chrome panther
makes them feel good
primal bane
thats insanely fun
chrome panther
its like why you see so many rets now
tardy hare
Makes me feel good anywhere i kill with it tho
chrome panther
divine toll procs and they think they're actually glad level players
primal bane
if convoke was "your next 5 abilities have 0.25 GCD" it would be more fun i agree
winter spindle
Setting up a good convoke and watch it all funnel into one person is fun 👆🏽
chrome panther
yes imagine casting 5 surges in 1.25 seconds
primal bane
thats insanely fun to me
chrome panther
huehuehue
primal bane
but without convoke id have to snore 2 globals for that and tahts just too much reaction time
clear pulsar
Press Convoke and not play for 4s is more fun than press Kindred and play for the next 4s
TIL
primal bane
glad i can educate a brother
also crazy how ret pallys also have RNG one shots that are much more effective than convoke
but they only touched their healing
and not by much
tardy hare
Press Convoke and not play for 4s is more fun than press Kindred and play for th...
true tbh
blissful belfry
Pressing convoke is the most fun i've had in wow ever
clear pulsar
Yall are wild bro
blissful belfry
Killing hpal before they bubble because the dummies decided to use a gcd on something else than immunity feels nice
winter spindle
Press Convoke and not play for 4s is more fun than press Kindred and play for th...
Don’t forget A, D and space bar. Night elf front flip during convoke guarantees an extra starsurge
fervent gull
Dafuq is happening with the treants when u throw em at someone whos on the flag but they instead go to someone else who is near
They bursted they way into aggro?
primal bane
pallys who die with bubble off cd need a pvp timeout like you have dungeon deserter
chrome panther
pallys who die with bubble off cd need a pvp timeout like you have dungeon deser...
finally we agree on something
blissful belfry
When i pop outta stealth and convoke a lone hpal and he insta bubble before anything even lands on him im like, ''you've seen this before now have you!'' xD
winter spindle
Dafuq is happening with the treants when u throw em at someone whos on the flag ...
They’re looking for shinies
primal bane
ive had at least 3 interactions with hpal pugs who join, die in the opener with bubble ready, and leave literally after the match
like wow thanks for the de-boost services how much
vast vapor
yeah
honest niche
Are ferals viable in RBGs?
tardy hare
viable ye, wanted no
blissful belfry
^
haha
Imagine takin a feral over the big boomy meta
assaulting camps as boomy boat cavoke is so braindead op
honest niche
Whats a ferals job in RBGs? Are we basically like a rogue trying to steal bases?
Whats our niche
blissful belfry
i remember a poor warlock. Dude had put his pet on stay far away rom him, i lined the pet with a wall, voked the lock and he coldnt cut me cuz of line
tardy hare
i just do all the off stuff as feral
cap base
roam in between to def
go teamfight when needed
etc
blissful belfry
Sometimes in rbg they ask me to go guardian for flag carry. Thats the main reason i never bought an agi weapon. I have an excuse not to
tardy hare
idk we werent winning WSG/TP enough
so i was like
fuck this shit
y'all hella shit
i'll do the FCing
tulip falcon
ye been playing feral as well
its decent on objective maps
just sorta useless in tf
i get this fucking every day now
💤
clear pulsar
if ferals didnt flop so easily i think they'd get pretty meta
Barkskin leggo brah
tulip falcon
they want hope that they dont have to reroll
forest kite
so why did they nerf convoke for feral and not just boomie?
clear pulsar
What?
It's definitely a bigger nerf to boomie than feral
It's barely a change at all to begin with
It doesnt matter at all for feral
blissful belfry
The most satisfying convoke i've had are against tanks doing fc and running my way alone. Im just a sealthed little cat, the dh is like, vroom vroom i dash, me quick! Everyone behind in de dust! Vroom vroom! Then they die in 2 - 3 surges
forest kite
feral frenzy got removed from convoke right?
blissful belfry
yeah, convoek change for feral is pretty inconsequential. actually might even be a buff?? how much dmg does feral frenzy does anyway? if it repalces a bite i reckon it bursts less
clear pulsar
FF does big dam
But it's over 8 seconds
So it still gives you all teh CP yeah? And the way FF gives CP is over the next 1 second one by one
One time I had this Convoke that used FF on the last spell
So I used Bite twice back to back after the Convoke
Cuz had 5 cp from shreds + FF rolling
Only happened once that I could take advantage of
rare junco
the nerfs aren’t even comparable at all
damage over time
vs
deleting half a healthbar in the blink of an eye
blissful belfry
Anyone tried running a big pve on use for convoke damage instead of pvp on use? Is the 40% vers + int on use better than massive bell mastery / IQD mastery-vers
blissful belfry
deleting half a healthbar in the blink of an eye
Half? thats for a non crit
rare junco
lmao
blissful belfry
i regurlar hit an hpal for 15k
critted one another time for 29.8k
Full moons are usually between 22 and 26k tho
forest kite
the nerfs aren’t even comparable at all
yeah but why would they "nerf" feral in the first place
forest kite
meanwhile they didn't touch ww at all
blissful belfry
Well, they nerfed feral's convoke just to have convoke work the same for both specs. Would be weirdish to let feral have exceptional spells but forbid boomy
but i also agree on WW, and i'd add warrior to that
Im out here, perma cloning the WW in his CD, and he still kills my healer with his pets alone
Xuen is like a feral druid, but with actual damage
forest kite
what's even funnier is that they gutted dk's for 50% healing back in bfa when their healing wasn't even that crazy to begin with
blissful belfry
forest kite
and ret's get a 20% healing nerf
clear pulsar
Well, they nerfed feral's convoke just to have convoke work the same for both sp...
Resto can still get Flourish tho tbf
So it's not exactly consistent
For all forms/specs
clear pulsar
See the spell is even already tuned differently for different specs
Thanks for adding to my point Tian
Much love
blissful belfry
yeah, true
lime light
yes
blissful belfry
i guess you cant really understand blizzard way of thinking
cuz they dont either
glacial current
blissful belfry
^
lime light
thats my point of view
blissful belfry
Its pretty much like this fire mage friend who's complaining about boomy being to good in pve
ruby walrus
I just want a little R Druid love in pvp 
, but ik MW is worse so we won’t see much 
clear pulsar
What rdru needs isn't just a flat buff or something
It's more of a major patch thing
Like impactful healing pvp talents that allow you to heal thru burst with less setup
ruby walrus
Yeah I agree, I would settle for some small purge protection as a pvp talent
clear pulsar
That's not a thing
Damage scales better with gear than HP does
And potency conduits get way better at higher ilvls too
clear pulsar
Getting more healing doesnt matter if you need 3 globals to pick someone up out of CC
Compared to 1 global for other healers
clear pulsar
Hots do fuck all
ruby walrus
^
clear pulsar
Gear won't shift the healing ratio of spells
What matters is swiftmend into big regrowth
lime light
i have to ask u, for stop smoking crack
clear pulsar
Rdru won't be made relevant by more gear dude
lime light
i would say, we will see
but we wont
they will overbuff them
so rdrud players
can be relevant again
and broken as usual
ruby walrus
Lol MW is going to get a complete rework before R Druid will ever be relevant in pvp again
I’ll put 10$ behind that
clear pulsar
@stray sigil why is willy playing with a protpaladin in venruki's stream?
blissful belfry
Resto druid definitly needs better pvp talents
clear pulsar
Pls delete him from btag
blissful belfry
What do you even take vs casters
stray sigil
hes got a weird fetish
blissful belfry
mark of the wild reduce the dmg of all the worthless dots and ignore shadow
stray sigil
which prot pal is it
stray sigil
vethosis?
clear pulsar
Yeah