because flap off alliance is giga
#pvp
pallid coral
tulip falcon
yep
pallid coral
and then if you're boomie affin anyway
you might as well take heart
because ME is less good when you can't bait rogue cloaks with ursols
tulip falcon
i run bash a fair bit anyway
tiny oar
grave hatch
how do u deal with grounding totem
tiny oar
Love pressing moonfire on groundings favorite activity
iron tulip
you have to target the totem itself
pallid coral
you have to target the totem
grave hatch
ah ok
pallid coral
and bait ground before you convoke
tropic birch
I feel like I'm doing something wrong as resto can't keep anyone alive 207 gear
iron tulip
sleeper still works through soulshape right? you're technically still in bear form right?
pallid coral
yes
tiny oar
207 ain't like too low but most mains are 220+
pallid coral
but it works in any form when you have incarn up
tiny oar
What's ur vers @tropic birch
pallid coral
you can press incarn adn go boomkin form and cast convoke and be cc immune (Can still be kicked tho)
tropic birch
How do I get 220 when I'm floating 1600 -1700 Cr lol
tiny oar
Get 1800
iron tulip
does sleeper increase convoke dmg?
tropic birch
27 vers
pallid coral
yes
iron tulip
oh shit lol
tiny oar
Or 2100
tulip falcon
sleeper is flat dmg increase so would affect convoke yes
tropic birch
I don't die I can service when people go me but if I'm not casting cycle root my teammates always die hotted
tiny oar
Sounds like a rotational issue maybe or you're just bad positioning > getting cced for free hard to say without seeing a vod of ur arena
tropic birch
And it's crazy my highest rating as resto was 2800 and I made glad like 4 seasons I feel like I'm just missing something
tepid spoke
Wait, Does sleeper work in balance spec
tropic birch
I could make some vods
tepid spoke
Or were you just talking about being guardian and switching to moonkin form affinity
tiny oar
I keep my idiot 2300 hunter and his pet alive for 10 minutes to kill warrior holy pallies
Cuz that's how long it takes
tropic birch
@tiny oar is there a mandatory Lego
tiny oar
Verdant infusion swiftmend extends hots
tropic birch
I could make a r1 this week I have the hots tick faster one
tiny oar
Yea that's faster healing but you have to reapply more often so it's more mana intensive for little actual gain.
tropic birch
Mana losses haven't happened often :(
tiny oar
Vs verdant which is like extends all ur hots and increases your healing thru burst dam
tropic birch
Ya can see how that is better even extending cen ward
tiny oar
Yea extending cen ward x2 if you can is huge to help with the high dmg atm
Necrolord swarm is also insane to apply before the cen ward extension (if ur necro) but niya convoke is fine if not
wraith depot
Any advice for a Resto Druid in arenas
I’m 1100 and been 1100 for 2 days
Trying to push
I feel a bit helpless if long fights
In*
Especially if there is a healer or pally healer involved
I’m not really sure what to do
1400 seems impossible
blissful belfry
What exactly is sleeper
haughty compass
Fuck warrior pally
chrome panther
What exactly is sleeper
legacy of the sleeper, gaurdian legendary.
blissful belfry
yeah nvm im reet. I looked at my leggo list and nothin was called sleeper. but i had blanace leggo only enabled
timid drum
What talents to run as guard in rbgs?
tulip falcon
along these lines
tulip falcon
What talents to run as guard in rbgs?
can change out bash for root and frenzy for entangling claws etc
timid drum
thanks b0ss
tiny oar
Any advice for a Resto Druid in arenas
General talent setup 3331132 with focused growth/resin/ thorns for melee, motw for casters/ purge protection, general healing priority lifebloom always up on whoever's taking dam> large dam double rejuv > enemy cds you can swarm if necro > cen ward > extend all those hots with swiftmend legendary > use the sotf regrowth to top if still low or rejuv if already 100 hp to keep them steady. Big part of rdruid is to predict all this happening and already have all of that going on as the dmg comes in to smooth out the damage patterns
obtuse ice
ok boomer
lime light
lime light
tiny oar
winter spindle
When is Circle going to BiS for balance, I want to play rot boomy 🥱
chrome panther
prolly never but its fun playing it with afflock
im like 99% sure it speeds up shooting star PPM and starfall tic-rate
compact lily
can boomie still eprform good after the nerf?
fallow thunder
I'm starting to consider lying about my vers to rbg groups
chrome panther
yes
compact lily
like can still one shot things?
chrome panther
yes
fast sundial
Got my feral ass wrecked by a moonless convoke, can confirm
chrome panther
I'm sure we'll see more changes though, wont be surprised to see just a flat starsurge nerf
forest hawk
You know what is discouraging? A prot pally in 2v2 doing more healing than he does dmg...thats bad. So bad.
fervent imp
Even if i’m playing this i hope a nerf of mk and rsham, i don’t know how a spec can be the best in mm+, raid and pvp
Btw what do u think about flourish in 2v as a a big cd heal ?
To my mind germination is low with the mastery nerf
fervent gull
the honor you need to obtain to unlock the slots in the vault is only taken in account the rated fights?
chrome panther
yes
fervent gull
and does it haves the same issue as the quests? where you need to farm like 1.5k of honor but if your currency is full it doesnt changes?
chrome panther
I dont believe so
easy to check
/run LoadAddOn("Blizzard_WeeklyRewards"); WeeklyRewardsFrame:Show()
to check anywhere
fervent gull
oh, nice sequence, ty
peak trench
Whats the best race for pvp (druid ofc)
lime light
nelf
fervent gull
why cant we buy gliders with marks of honor at oribos?
coral sandal
Hey guys a new feral here playing jungle and I was wondering what I should be doing in between go’s? Should I be putting out constant pressure or healing and cloning a lot and not spending a lot of time in cat?
green valve
I'm sure we'll see more changes though, wont be surprised to see just a flat sta...
Id hope theyd at least buff wrath and starfire then
clear pulsar
isnt vers+ knockback from fat humat better?
Knock is pretty meme
Nelf gives you a better stun
While being a much more versatile spell
green valve
Yea but
clear pulsar
Meld is insane
green valve
Fat human looks cool af
You get that giant handlebar stash and dad gut
Lmao
True
green valve
Damnnnn
last owlBOT
This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.
winter spindle
im like 99% sure it speeds up shooting star PPM and starfall tic-rate
Yeah it does because SS procs of dot damage so faster tics = more procs
Also with star lord and solstice you get giga SS procs
chrome panther
Yeah it does because SS procs of dot damage so faster tics = more procs
Coulda sworn SS was on a set PPM tho regardless of tic-rate
green valve
Is solstive better then fury then? Been running fury
chrome panther
I like solstice better most of the time.
compact lily
is it too late to start?
like if i have a newbie cousin
is it too late to catch up already
compact lily
even with maw cap?
compact lily
does maw give verse?
chrome panther
from exalted with ven'ari you buy sockets for rings neck and 2 other pieces
so its worth 80 vers
winter spindle
Maw content 🤮
compact lily
is it that big of adeal tho?
clear pulsar
I aint doing fucking maw dailies lmao
compact lily
i mean game breaking?
chrome panther
no
clear pulsar
Yes game breaking
chrome panther
its 80 vers
clear pulsar
You cap out at 1600 if you dont have sockets
green valve
Not sure about maw but you can catchup gear wise pretty quick
The covenant campaign has quite a few vers pieces you can upgrade to 197 easily
Buy a conquest weapon
Fill the rest with honor pvp gear
Take about a week or 2 to get around 190-200 ilv
clear pulsar
First good thing tianton says in all of shadowlands
green valve
Yea i got 3 60s you couldnt pay me to do maw shit
lime light
anyone 7 characters on max lvl yet?
agile depot
How we gonna live without the full moon 1shots 😔
lime light
thats how u can live without tramp
glacial fjord
Wait whats tre truth
A while ago dude said it was okay even wothout full moon
Now u guys say “how are we gonna live”
Whats the truth woth the nerf
Will it greatly affect us
green valve
Maybe the nerf will be a buff and ppl stop kicking convoke now
lime light
is not changing anything
agile depot
convoke will still 1shot
glacial fjord
Whee
agile depot
the full moon was just an amazing cherry ontop
glacial fjord
Lol i was like wtf is the truth loool
agile depot
yea sarcasm doesn't translate well to text lol
glacial fjord
Wuestion at what ilvl can i possibly 1 shot people at low ranks?
clear pulsar
Ultimately like full moon only happens 20% of casts ro begin with, and deals like 3k more dmg than a starsurge ye? It's nice when it procs but it doesnt make Convoke particularly insane, it still works the same way and has the same type of potential to kill in 1 second. Idk.
chrome panther
My moons crit 30k + playing with ele/disc
Gonna be sad i don't autowin one game out of every 30 from rng
errant blaze
New boomie here, what kind of cc does convoke not hit?
Was sad to get a bunch of heals from a sapped target i wanted to open on
chrome panther
Anything that breaks on damage won't be targeted
clear pulsar
It also only hits targets who are in combat
So naturally a sapped target wont be in combat
Most of the time
rare junco
yeah
some of the most disappointing moments i’ve had in SL were early on when i didn’t realise you can’t enter combat with convoke
prey sitting before you
healhealhealhealheal
runic narwhal
What is the best feral pvp legendary
warm beacon
runic narwhal
Eye of fearful symmetry?
wraith depot
Any guides for Resto pvp?
vague mural
Is feral/shadowpriest/X any good of a comp seems like it could be solid but idk
verbal urchin
Any guides for Resto pvp?
good multiglad player?
suptease has boomy and spriests >.>
tardy hare
truth
lime light
supa best boomkin and guardian player to log na server
stray sigil
tian biggest ape world
tardy hare
aslo true
lime light
excuse you
at least say that iam a baboon
not just an ape
cuz baboons are a chiefs
in monkeys herd
and iam a chief of that server
rigid linden
Wtf
clear pulsar
in monkeys herd
Bro thats not what those words mean
lime light
leave me alone
stray sigil
ape
coral sandal
Hey guys a new feral here playing jungle and I was wondering what I should be doing in between go’s? Should I be putting out constant pressure or healing and cloning a lot and not spending a lot of time in cat?
stray sigil
speaking to tian lowers my iq
wind turret
So, what’s the general consensus on the nerf?
lime light
prolly also most handsome
person in that channel
but i didnt say that
@wind turret no nerfs, just super rng aoe one shoots removed
dim sable
(balance) Is the best cov still going to be night fae after the changes coming tuesday?
and also, how does the Kyrian do for pvp? i was looking into a dot build that seemed interesting and usful
forest kite
Hey lads, any decent pvp guide for boomkin ? cheers
trim moth
@dim sable I personally think Kyrian is better. Less set up based and you have more go’s every minute. 🤷🏾♂️. I think that makes it stronger. But NF is still good too. I personally prefer Kyrian
supple path
If you want to play a DOT build, you need a time machine.
Kyrian is 5 starsurges in a row buffed up every minute, and NF is Convoke every 2 min. Dots are for astral power generation not damage.
both are very good
ebon vortex
anyone have any idea how affli locks are randomly doing 40% health as damage?
details isnt showing it up or anything and its defo not a dispell
tepid spoke
darkglare darksoul malefic rapture spam
ebon vortex
it happened in a previous game
with a pala
the exact same thing happened in a previous game against a hpalla/arms/affli
sec i can send a clip
im the druid
lock pops glare and just hits for like 15k
on me and warr
lmfao
then we had the game straight after where that screenshot was from
looking at it more it seems like something to do with commanding shout
since it drops at the same time
but even then that shouldnt remove 20k hp
yea just checked the other video its 100% commanding shout
isnt it not supposed to work like that at all tho lmfao
thought it was supposed to scale your health down relative to how much health you currently have
weird
ive never ever had that happen before
gotta be a bug tho
like with 2s with the same dude on my hpalla ive never once spiked from shout going down
dim sable
(balance) with the Kyrian cov what legendary should i have?
trim moth
@dim sable Timeworn Dreambinder makes your starsurges smacc. Let’s you get out 5 in a row when used correctly.
dim sable
sick thanks
lime light
wasnt it swipping strike execute from warrior
junior ingot
What do you boomies do against a havoc dh in 2s?
queen holly
this is like the dumbest question ever but how do you play rdruid + arms 2s
i just can't figure out the goes
or is it just sit back and pve heal the warrior while he does the damage
forest kite
arms also kinda forces the other dps (if melee) to go on u instead of the dps
ebon vortex
it makes 0 sense
ive never had this happen before
if youre 50% health surely you go back to 50% health after it
south night
anyone trading his pvp coaching for friendship? ❤️
long reef
RGB talents for resto druid ?
unkempt sonnet
hey whats the best opener for 2s?
hollow junco
convoke
celest plume
convoke is fun until you get stunned lol
grizzled umbra
it requires alot of setup to land it successfully against good players
safe heart
feral or boomkin? for feral i believe the play is rake rip berserk FF TF
unkempt sonnet
boomkin, i main feral but wanna try something different
is there any good youtubers to watch? Ive been watching supatease lately
sand panther
Feeling very newbish right now trying to do skirmishes as balance (I've only really healed arenas (up to 2k) as disc and resto shaman) - dps feels weird.
Anyone wanna give me the 2 cents on how to start off a match against double dps comps? Wait until my partner engages, pop out and CC someone and drop dots and go from there?
primal bane
anyone knows why incarnation/CA makes your starsurges go from 12k to 18k
are astral attacks benefitting from both eclipses at once?
opaque tangle
primal bane
so on top of the nature/arcane dmg buffs, you also get these damage/crit buffs ?
on all the spells not just wrath/moonfire?
crude minnow
no read mastery
primal bane
these dmg/crit chance buffs are not mentioned in mastery at all
edgy shale
mastery makes SS do more in eclipse brother
primal bane
yes ik that
nature and arcane
but im talking about the normal eclipse buff
which is 20% dmg and 20% crit
are those also applied to astral dmg abilities
or just wrath/starfire
crude minnow
just wrath starfire
compact lily
what is a mroe noob friendly pvp healer rdruid or hpally
?
haughty compass
I’m so sick of hpal. Trying to help my friend on my alt
On my feral, games take 3 years
wraith depot
Are they getting nerfed?
Any guides for resto Druid
I need to push from 1290 to 1300
I feel like I’m not doing enough
stone nest
I can tell you against melee that people don’t use their roots enough at a lower cr.
wraith depot
Any guides or videos or tips
stone nest
abstract cloak
What boomy spec do y'all play for RBG?
vagrant coral
What is going to be the most noticeable difference with Feral Convoke not having FF in it anymore? Won't exit Convoke with 5 combo points?
Or does this mean we could get more FB procs?
stone breach
What boomy spec do y'all play for RBG?
1/2/2/2/2/1
the only thing I might change is to go wild charge over renewal on flag carry maps
abstract cloak
Starlord over Incarn?
stone breach
yes
edgy shale
i run incarn
stone breach
moonkin aura / celestial guardian + one of deep roots or the 3 AP on dispels
abstract cloak
Perfect
edgy shale
cylone one is another fringe option
queen copper
this or swap incarn for SL. swap thorns for dying stars if no lock, and between thoirns/high winds otherwise
dont really run deep roots
primal bane
i just found out every single broken shaman ability is a pvp talent
when are we getting such balanced pvp talents too?
lasso
queen copper
whats wrong with shamans lol
tiny oar
queen copper
just 1 tap both of them
primal bane
ok?
like eyah theyre cool
but i wish we had that kind of impact with pvp talent choices
that shamans do
tiny oar
Thorns is insane boomkin aura is good idk wat else u want
primal bane
was about to say
thorns is our best pvp talent
high winds i think is a 2nd but its more specialized
personally never felt cool w/ moonkin aura it takes too long to take effect
primal bane
high winds is applicable to everything but you dont need high winds into much
stray sigil
bro boomy pvp talents
are pretty nuts
u are crazy
gimme that stupid healing dmg reduc shit
on feral bro
any day
tiny oar
Are u even a druid anymore man havent u rerolled to 7 other "broken" classes by now
edgy shale
he hasn't rerolled, he just asks questiosn about rerolling. respect that
primal bane
im levelling a shammy now
i dont think ill reroll
i got where i wanted to get so far
1.9k
i was tempted to reroll to warlock but i dont want to be a castoid
now i go ele sham to satisfy my thirst for rng one shots
visual anvil
queen copper
rofl
primal bane
why is this not viable
i refuse to believe anyone under 2.4k can react to 6 convokes
and the sheer amount of open burst that is
will kill like 4 players before they wake up
crude minnow
No aura mastery in that comp lmao....
edgy shale
no1 said it isn't viable lol
queen copper
well they acharge in and incarn convoke, and now everyone gets moonfired
yep seems good to me
primal bane
now idk what u do in the downtime from ech convoke
crude minnow
Just was in an rbg where us 3 boomies stealthed to ww and the pally aura masteried and we killed like 5 of em with convoke from behind
primal bane
yeah but id imagine going 4+ boomies is a real concern without convoke
queen copper
u have 4 incarns to pop people off
crude minnow
Yeah having 10k non crit starsurges is a really big problem
edgy shale
u know if 3 boomies starsurge sum1 at the same time they just die right lol
crude minnow
With dreambinder you dont even have to rely on anyone else's damage. you can just solo kill people in teamfights
queen copper
speaking of boomies. whos the go to necrolord :>
edgy shale
i think the E one
primal bane
solo oneshotting
queen copper
yep the guy i have. seemed the strongest
queen copper
necro boomy
be afraid
crude minnow
if you dont like being trained as a boomy, you're gonna have a bad time being trained as an ele
queen copper
bro that swarm just a distraction
stray sigil
why
queen copper
fire it off on some random
stray sigil
ele casts even less than boomy lol
primal bane
yeah but at least ele can do dmg while being trained
stray sigil
its almost entirely on ur team to keep u up
crude minnow
Eh thats fair. just different since mobility+bear usually get people off of you more oftenb
dim sable
anyone got the Kyrian soulbing conduit sets for boomy pvp?
edgy shale
lakerz would know
primal bane
ive sat multiple minutes in full bear form against double melee comps that continued to attack me through an entire thorns duration
and we still lost that match
primal bane
i can not rely on shit but myself
crude minnow
sitting in bear too much is a thing tho
primal bane
it is
but im tryna get at the point that those were very bad players
that had multiple gaps of being easy to kill
and i ahd to be a stupid bear not to die
instead of taking the matter into my own hands
stray sigil
is NOW on boomy a thing @vestal citrus
about to be some really fun AWC ahead
everyone running tank lego
hpal running tank lego
boomy
u can bet c9
will be all over that
its in their blood
primal bane
tank leggo is greedy?
queen copper
guardian one
stray sigil
maybe not for boomy cuz like
skin is the only cd u have
oh
ya
but for feral its nice
can hold on to trinket
and like wall more often
primal bane
thats nice i swear every comps can force pally bubble in 30s from start
dim sable
can anyone help with the Balance soul bindings for Kyrian
devout phoenix
tiny oar
<@!237412116024393728>
Why u ping
edgy shale
cuz u need to tell us wat soulbind for necro boomy
rich hill
what legendary for guardian druid for RBGs?
tiny oar
Hopefully that abomination link works but if not just pick frictionless coating double potency double endurance swap resto potencies with whatever shit boomies use @queen copper
vale crystal
strong spear
having a hard time between resto and guardian as feral
dim sable
ok...i drastically need help. i've already screwed myself and don't need to make it wose. I'm a pvp Boomy. i was startred as Necro, ditched it for NF, and just changed to Kyrian... clearly i don't know what i'm doing and require some serious help. every guide i see just says the oppisite of what ive done. and i thought i might need to change to Kyrian bc of the convoke change coming. please send help..
puffs S.O.S in a smoke signal
strong spear
Kyrian is a good choice
edgy shale
kyrian owns
dim sable
whats my path for this?
strong spear
get the weeklies done (but turn in later) and whatnot
dim sable
i'm looking to push in arenas
edgy shale
is ther edouble potency for kyrian in any of the trees?
tiny oar
Soulbind paths r in pins from glyph
solemn flower
i'm looking to push in arenas
My sentiments at all times
tall surge
how does resto + WW monk go in 2s?
teal root
so the natural orders will is the fc lego now right?
just to confirm with what that guy said
what cc immune? sry
oic
yeah im boomkin main but on occasion ppl ask me to fc for rbg
so what do u think? just start with the natural orders? or just do both
edgy shale
NOW has more application to pvp in general vs. just RBG fcing but legacy is prob better for fcing
teal root
ty
edgy shale
yo this guy has lost his actual mind
forest kite
Sleeper also nice for guarding a node
foggy ravine
Only viable as 10 boomkin
Swapped kyrian tonight and I love it
Best decision ever
kindred galleon
I feeling the same
foggy ravine
Felt like I just had to hold convoke for ever
But with kyrian every minute someone is in danger of dying
kindred galleon
Kyrian makes you feel like your alot more in control and do more dmg
unkempt sonnet
Any good youtubers you’d recommend for learning boomkin arena? I’ve seen supatease so far
kindred galleon
Miss convoke in open world and random bgs though
edgy shale
ye, wish i could go kyrian for pvp
foggy ravine
Just control the fight in between cds and then blast away with a root beam on healer
Convince your guild kyrian bond is good for raid
Cuz 20% buff on convoke boomy
And 20% for you
unkempt sonnet
I’m trying to learn openers, positioning and just basic rotation rn
edgy shale
i like doing damage tho lol
edgy shale
at the start they did, the gap is widening, particularly on fights like sludg
foggy ravine
Ah I haven’t raided any yet so I’m not too knowledgeable on the raid stuff
I feel like the kyrian mastery buff every minute would help close the gap but I guess not
edgy shale
nf gets niya which is the same thing i guess
edgy shale
the boomy can kyrian bond me isntead
kindred galleon
Simpkin so you can fuck with ppl in arena
foggy ravine
Yeooo you’d get such a fat buff from a convoke boomy though with kyrian
20% of their damage into your reservoir
unkempt sonnet
What sort of time would you usually convoke? I’m new to SL so this may sound daft but is it always random what spells it does?
kindred galleon
Well its smart random so it’ll cast a set Nr of healing/dps/whatever spells, depending on form and range and so on
Best is to cast when you have someone isolated, as in the only one in range/LoS or the only one not cced
For lowest of low rating casting with incarn from stealth with BOAT at good position might be the best play
You’ll always get 3-5 starsurges if it fully channels
forest kite
pvp in this games a real fucking bummer man. Individual skill is like 4th down the list of shit that matters most in winning arena right now behind comp, gear, and voice comms/teamwork
polar nymph
?
edgy shale
teamwork tends to be more important than individual skill in team games lol, but u do need a baseline of skill for teamwork to matter
of course u need to play w/ ur team in arena or rbgs
kindred galleon
But you can totally win games on your own in rbgs and arena
edgy shale
yeah, of course
kindred galleon
But as said teamwork in team game should be more important than individual skill
Playing a team game where ur teammates didn’t matter would be a bummer
primal bane
nah
forest kite
if youre skilled enough you should be able to carry
primal bane
teamwork has always been the lower requirment in team games because team games are not about teamwork
forest kite
invdividual skill shouldnt be that far down the list of deciding mechanics in your victories
primal bane
and tbh its better this way
primal bane
overwhelming skill discrepancies shouldnt lose to teamwork
its literally irrelevant lmao
every "team" based competitive game
forest kite
Teamwork is the most important thing in team games
3 higher skilled players without voice comms should be able to get more wins than 3 shit players in disc.
primal bane
can and is recommended to advance through your own mechanical skill
forest kite
but thats not the case with this cheese pvp state of the game atm
primal bane
i agree w/ valiant
polar nymph
That's pretty funny
primal bane
i feel like wow is the most teamwork oriented team game
and its to the point its kinda cringe
polar nymph
You can't even win a bg without teamwork
primal bane
i mean a BG is kinda fair 10 people lower your agency by a fuckton
but most r1 3v3 players
do not advertise above rival carry lmfao
and duelist carry is almost always a rogue/fmage
imagine someone this good at the game can not carry more than 1800 weight
a dota pro booster at equal skill rankings could probably have more networth than the entire team combined if he tryharded
and literally 1v5 finish the game
polar nymph
For
gritty plume
balance
kindred galleon
Haste to 19%?
gritty plume
Is there a break?
kindred galleon
Oh ok, then I’m misinformed
pine hawk
Will feral or balance be better for 2's? My partner is a hpal if that matters
hoary ledge
Should I run tough as bark with NOW to have it up more often?
Or would it be better to run Innate / Auto regen / Ursine Vigor?
yeah seems situational
which potency do you prefer?
Yeah I’ve been on fury it’s not bad
Will mess with tough as bark
See how it feels
Yeah true
Plus I feel like the regen from the end of NOW is a sufficient buffer
Makes up for not having the 4-5s reduction tough as bark provides
Start + End
Assuming you’re in bear at the end, or at least pop back into it
Better to craft head for stats I’m assuming?
junior ingot
What’s the best comp in twos with a boom dawg
kindred galleon
When would you play NOW?
kindred galleon
Yeah ok I’m in
loud wedge
Why the fuck are people letting boomies free cast when im on my hpal, but i never ever get to free cast?
I mean.. I needed to outheal 3x full convokes and free casting clones + root beam
kindred galleon
Yeah I might look at it when I feel like I’m not tanky enough
Atm rmx and retwarr doesn’t feel imposs at all
As monk boomie rdruid
last basin
do u think nf took a big hit with the nerf? i personally believe that its justified but how about viability?
forest kite
@primal bane cope !!! I'm a balance druid pvp karyina
@vestal citrus what's your cr ?
Glyph give me a good soulbind trait for karyina?
Ok but I mean for example. Should I do
Fury of the Skies?
What about this home boy
Damn
I need to be OP in pvp v.v
last basin
cries in night fae
forest kite
@last basin how's night fea ?
last basin
still strong we wait for next week to stop casting full moons randomly
forest kite
@last basin what do you mean next week ? It's getting nerfed:(?
last basin
yes senior, convoke no longer casts full moon in pvp scenarios
forest kite
@last basin then how are you gonna be op?
forest kite
@last basin are you kyrina ?
forest kite
Ok
@vestal citrus dude look !
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Tichondrius/Supatease I'm gonna follow this guys talents
He's op !
Why look at his rank ?
And his CR
But wait he's not using fury of elune hmmmm
He also uses Focusing Mantra hmmm
last basin
is celestial guardian mandatory even vs melee cleaves?
edgy shale
supatease runs prickling thorns+deep roots? he's doing the roots torgghast builds in RBGs
last basin
forest kite
@edgy shale I see.
People are complaining that convke can be cc so easy that removing full moon has no effect o.o
They said they should make convke cc free
I updated he went back to thorns and bear form
forest kite
I wonder if supatase is in this server ?
earnest turret
Hello!
I've been debating quite some time about taking the plunge and reroll druid as main for everything, including pvp. Was wondering what are the best horde races for arena, and if i plan on doing resto and boomkin in pvp, which covenant should i go for? Ps not a fan of kyrian, unfortunately.
rigid snow
then go nf?
earnest turret
Already nf, seeing a few to rdruids being necro made me wonder, that's all :)
Also which race on horde would be recommended?
forest kite
Tauren (stun) , high mountain (charge) and troll (haste) are all good
dusty sphinx
NF is the best compromise for pvp and also the top pic in pve.
The best pics for pvp would be necro for restoration, Kyrian for balance
earnest turret
Thanks for the info! Deeply appreciated
quaint birch
Is vers king for resto druids in 3's or rated bgs? i have 226 items with no vers, and 207 pvp gear with vers. Is the vers item still better for pvp?
quaint birch
ok thank you
bitter harness
ilvl yuge
tiny oar
Yuge
primal bane
are pre-50 battlegrounds scaled?
like even remotely?
or they just group lvl 45 players with 20s and see what happens?
fathom oxide
rdruid better in 3s or 2s?
fathom oxide
if u look at wowhead guide he says all of the affinites are equally good btw
ive been switching to guardian now
why dont u flame me
exotic wolf
lul
tiny oar
They're all situationally good ya
queen copper
finally
bitter harness
grats!
edgy shale
congrats!
tiny oar
Pog big dam surges
queen copper
no offhand tho i messed up XD
tiny oar
U get that in rbgs shrom?
queen copper
yea rbg
tiny oar
queen copper
we vs some 2600 team before
running selfplays i think
ez 19 points lol
think we vs gore too but dunno if same guy
not playing his toon
bitter harness
I wonder if it'll be harder or easier to get 2400 in RBG as the season goes on
yeah but thats me
the steaming pile of shit
at least I got back to 2.1 again, dropped from 2.1 to 1.9 a couple of weeks ago
LFG is such a gamble
I have a 2nd boomy now so I can sit on rating if I want
tiny oar
bitter harness
tardy hare
soon i'll be a grand marshal too
edgy shale
👊
tardy hare
egirlmaker coming later in the season
first its GM shingeki
starting to think it's worth it
ditch my group of 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒
👨🦽 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒 🐒
^ my group
edgy shale
thats a lot of gold
next shadow
best boomkin 3s comps???
edgy shale
see, i told u that u need big brained playerrs to sit
strong spear
Ferals, which aff did you choose
weak hinge
Pikachu
edgy shale
im very low on vers so i run guardian. also incap roar into clone is pog. if i had a shit ton of vers like 28% or something i might run resto for fat heals
wind rock
Is it easier to get RBG rating up than arenas as a pve player?
weak hinge
@wind rock Yes.
wind rock
Kinda hard stuck at 1900 now as rdruid in 2s and kinda shit in 3s too
weak hinge
2v2 u have 50% of the responsibility. 10v10 10%. bit of shit math here but u get the point
getting into groups as a Rdruid above 2k is gonna be hard tho
wind rock
Could do boomy too as I pve as boomy
wind rock
2 days left for that
wind rock
I was referring to the Convoke nerfs
weak hinge
yeah im not talking about convoke
wind rock
Ohh you mean real moons
strong spear
lol people ignore the starsurge crits and whine about full moons
weak hinge
well.. starsurges sometimes killed you. moon killed you 90% of the time
without setup
wind rock
What talents do I want to play as boomy in RBGs? Starlord/Twin Moons/Solistice?
wind rock
Yes
weak hinge
BOAT or Dreambinder?
wind rock
Boat
weak hinge
can either go incarn stolstice convoke oneshots or starlord FoE. i usually run Starlord + Moon
just to get some fun out of RBGs
and yeah always twin moons
elder tiger
Which covs are good if I wanna play as both boom and resto? Afaik kyrian and nf are best for boom and necro for resto
wind rock
Right, thanks shaun :)
elder tiger
How to comprimise?
weak hinge
@elder tiger arena? rbg?
elder tiger
If I wanna do everything, maybe arena focus
weak hinge
necrolord is useless for boomie
NF is good for resto 2v2
NF is good for boomie
i'd go nf
bitter harness
haha convoke go brr
clear pulsar
I'm not entirely convincend that Kyrian is worse than Fae for resto tbh
sudden blade
For Feral. Does versatility outweigh ilvl? For example 220 helmet without versa or 207 with versa
clear pulsar
I mean in 2s yeah night fae is a fucking blast and you maim convoke hoes all day
Not that much ilvl @sudden blade
weak hinge
@sudden blade no idea tbh. people are like 13 ilvl is > versa some say different
clear pulsar
Dropping like 4, maaaybe 7/8 ilvl on a small slot is probably worth
But 13 ilvl on a big budget slot like helm is absolutely not
weak hinge
@clear pulsar yeah. depends on the situation. idk - i'll probably go kyrian after raid tier
sudden blade
okok, thx so maybe max 7ilvls
clear pulsar
On rings and necklace yeah probably worth dropping 13 or so
sudden blade
yea
clear pulsar
Since the conq jewelry has like 140+ vers each item
And they dont have agi
It's easy to check if the vers makes you tankier, look up on wago some effective hp calc weakaura @sudden blade
Then you just swap both items and see which one gets you higher EHP
sudden blade
ok, thx! ill do that
tiny oar
Then you just swap both items and see which one gets you higher EHP
Kyrian self bond for resto is like 15% extra healing every min for 10s right? Honestly doesn't sound too awful
I replied to wrong comment but ya lol
edgy shale
yeah
tiny oar
Compared 2 like a venthyr rdruid or sumthing lol
edgy shale
that sounds pog
weak hinge
i mean convoke can be a good emergancy heal
clear pulsar
Kyrian self bond for resto is like 15% extra healing every min for 10s right? Ho...
Yeah 15% extra healing + 175 mastery + phial
And with restealths and shit you definitely get more than 1 phial per game
It's like
It sounds ok yeah!?
late stirrup
Can you get renown from normal random bg anyone knows '
clear pulsar
I imagine you can cuz you can get renown from regular lfg dungeons normal/heroic
But I can't say I've gotten any, I also haven't really done bgs on characters that are behind tho
fervent imp
is it bad to have +30% versa in 2V cause of the dr ?
edgy shale
idk what u mean, but its only good to have 30% vers
clear pulsar
Damn I havent seen a 30% vers player yet
Bonkers gear
I mean vers is still #1 stat further than 30% tbh
But it doesnt really matter
Like idk
edgy shale
ppl come into feral channel and say like "should I have 14% haste, 50% mastery, 25% crit, 5% vers or is that bad" and its like ... get good stats, they are good
tulip falcon
im above 30% and the dr is legit nothing
fervent imp
ok good to know thanks
edgy shale
u deal lotta damage...take little damage
clear pulsar
Rookie gearing mistake
clear pulsar
Yeah it's 0.02% vers
tulip falcon
yep
oh ye didnt see it was 30.18 im stupid idk what was going on in my head
ignore
how will i ever get into those 1600 pug RBGs now when my versa isnt optimal
tepid spoke
Id /slit
tulip falcon
i mean its early af on eu and late af on NA so doubt it
edgy shale
no... u need 30.2
bitter harness
222 ilvl tho
edgy shale
then u gain 500 rating
mighty void
so, with upcoming changes to convoke, will kyrian be better overall ?
tulip falcon
if you are already night fae its not a reason to change
the changes are minimal
especially for feral
difference between kyrian and nf will basically be the same
mighty void
yeah, that's what I read. im just leveling and soonish hitting 60 and wondering which one to pick. 2,2k warrior who malds too much over balance druids
edgy shale
tulip falcon
yea i'd probably expect further nerfs down the line but not for quite a while i'd imagine
lime light
Daily reminder
tulip falcon
a lot of shit is overdue for tuning atm 🙄
lime light
I forgot what was a recent daily reminder
tulip falcon
don't eat yellow snow
edgy shale
its impossible to lose on arms/ret?
mighty void
more than you know
tiny oar
I forgot what was a recent daily reminder
Dont q guardian in arena
lime light
That's a druid codez
Codex
Ah ye thx @edgy shale
Hooooow do u looooooose
As arms ret
Hoooooooooooooow
edgy shale
tiny oar
Good ol joe fernandez
mighty void
but my handicapness aside, once i hit 60 i take it is best to go for kyrian as goal is +2k pvp ?
tulip falcon
it's honestly up to you like
pale dagger
is having 19% versa a big disadvantage?
tulip falcon
nf and kyrian both work
kyrian is obviously more consistent/reliable whereas nf will require some setup to use properly in most cases
edgy shale
if ur only gonna pvp then kyrian+DB seems pog to me
tulip falcon
both are viable options to 2400+
edgy shale
but 1 shotting sum1 with convoke is also pog, and in RBGs convoke is nice
mighty void
i guess ill go nf then, convoke is most annoying shit to play against. no offense ❤️
tiny oar
Blizz rly slam dunked it with night fae man
Convoke is just such a fun button 2 press u feel
edgy shale
i feel that
tiny oar
Gets the serotonin going
tiny oar
edgy shale
when the first 2 spells are just 2 crit bites and the person falls over, its like oh ok
bitter harness
free heals pog
tulip falcon
bro ive spammed like 5 wraths as feral i swear
bitter harness
xd
tardy hare
idk im geared enough that 2 bites in a row during convoke are enough to make enemy fear for his life
tiny oar
5 thrashes in a row etc 
edgy shale
da RNG spell
mighty void
best feeling as arms is getting 15k starsurge and 35k full moon. makes you go afk for a while.
edgy shale
tulip falcon
was in 3s yesterday and got 3 kills with 1 convoke on cleanup
was beautiful
queued feral/ww/disc for the meme to see how it would be
forgive me
clear pulsar
then going through this process as you get shit RNG on your abilities
I always stare at the convoke weakaura hoping for 6 bites
Then I get 3 bites all spaced out not even back to back shit
And alt f4
tulip falcon
ive had so many where i fucking yell BIG DAMAGE ON THIS GUY NOW CONVOKE then do fucking wraths for the first half of it
edgy shale
fat moonfires
clear pulsar
I had an emo week where I went thru all 3 other covenants on my main because I had convoke dump 3+ bites on hunter pet / shadowfiend / earth elemental 3 games in a row.
Dead ass even played venthyr
That week
tulip falcon
lmao ew
edgy shale
hwo did that go?
clear pulsar
Venthyr is pretty ass
tulip falcon
convoking on pets is worst
i was like wtf happened to my convoke
then realised i killed a lock pet
clear pulsar
Necro is like, okay!? My horde druid is still necro, it's just a bit more consistent damage, a bit more FF damage, but Fleshcraft is a bit useless compared to Soulshape or Phial.
Necro soulbinds are just also not good like
tulip falcon
venthyr and necro never appealed to me
clear pulsar
I really wanted it to be good but LI is too weak, Fleshcraft is useless, and the soulbinds give you much less damage than Niya or Pelagos or even Nadija and Theotar.
tulip falcon
yea fleshcraft never seems to do a whole lot
edgy shale
venthyr would appeal to me if there were actual payoff to the whole 'cant stop hitting em' thing
clear pulsar
The 15% shield when you drop under 50% hp is nice, but the main damage trait on that soulbind is based on fleshcrafting dead bodies which isn't a thing in arena.
The other 2 trees are just like
3% agi yay
tulip falcon
yea thats all i remember
clear pulsar
The other 3 covenants all have better damage soulbinds
tiny oar
I had an emo week where I went thru all 3 other covenants on my main because I h...
I'm emo every time I fight arms hpal
clear pulsar
It's ww or ret for me
Like idk the defensives and long games where people dont die cuz bloated toolkit are one thing
But dying to a 5k autoattack + 18k divine toll + 18k TV over the grand total of 1 second is a bit too much for me.
And then ww like
You think you peeled their cds
But they last fucking 30 seconds or some shit
tiny oar
Yea I mass root xuen and clones thinking I'm fine after then then die like 70-0 in a hoj thru auto frenzy lol
edgy shale
monk hurts
tiny oar
Wild times we're living in
edgy shale
i thought last patches ToD was more fair cuz i just ran my ass away whenever i saw them pop it
tulip falcon
if only we could all be nelf
edgy shale
now u just get popped with no way to react
tiny oar
Haha alliance
I saw an 18k ToD the other week like idk man are u sure u killed him?? IDK IF 18K AT 10% HP IS ENOUGH
kindred galleon
Just haymaker when they pop cds
tulip falcon
haymaker is legit i swear
ive rarely seen kul tirans but damn
i was in an eots rbg and saw someone get yeeted from near mage tower off the edge of the map
kindred galleon
Haha haymaker+typhoon on LM in AB is pretty op
tulip falcon
does it not dr with other knocks?
clear pulsar
i was in an eots rbg and saw someone get yeeted from near mage tower off the edg...
No joke kultiran is probably actually good in base maps yeah!?
Like if you knock a hunter 80 yards away you can clone the pet and free grab base
Well it probably just depends on where the base sitter is standing
But you surely can catch someone off
At least first time
tulip falcon
i dont think it would knock them far away enough to cap unless its like a knockoff on lm or something
edgy shale
meld also a disgusting upgrade for feral in pve
kindred galleon
Ive found use for it
tulip falcon
it looks like ele knock distance but a bit slower travel time
kindred galleon
Yeah on bases that have drops
clear pulsar
It's like 1% for me over worgen and kultiran bro it's not that insane lol
In aoe it's even less
Like 15 dps difference in aoe
kindred galleon
Haymaker+convoke is pretty neat since the stun is 3 sec
edgy shale
1% is a lot for ST, just for race lol
clear pulsar
It's the same as a lot of the best races compared to middling races
For other classes/specs
Is what I meant
tropic kiln
Well honed instincts and tough as bark are up on NA as WQs for anyone gearing alts
edgy shale
yeah fair enough. zerking is pretty dumb for casters
tiny oar
thank u maxkin
tulip falcon
at least with horde racials i feel like there's a lot of room to try them all for druid
as most of them are like
tropic kiln
100s
tulip falcon
not amazing