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stray sigil
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oops

clear pulsar
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Quebec brain

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Ofc cdew playing wow at 6am pacific

stone nest
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Yes

pallid coral
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lol

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fucking ret paladins man

tulip falcon
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i love running into some of these defias people out and about

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farmed nasim in rbgs last week or so

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he still plays his warr

pallid coral
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Yeah

tulip falcon
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some of them literally haven't changed

pallid coral
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we beat him the other week

tulip falcon
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i do miss that though

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it made downtime entertaining

oblique lion
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Kyrian or nightfae for boomy

candid moth
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Pins

placid mirage
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Queue with prot

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Went from hardstuck 1700 to hardstuck 1900

bitter harness
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i love it when im in an RBG group and its kotmogu

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and only 4 people speak

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absolutely love it

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it's so great

teal hinge
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Play 1 min build with a disc

placid mirage
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It's hard to consistently climb through random in lfg

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Try to find like 1-3 people you like who have a class that somewhat complements yours

junior plover
placid mirage
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Prot, hpal, sub rogue, fmage there are prob others too

bitter harness
junior plover
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Holy shit Niya convoke SLAPS

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in feral

junior plover
bitter harness
placid mirage
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Where are u getting that from

bitter harness
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the last 10 days have been the worst 10 days of my 20 day RBG career

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REFlex

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(addon)

junior plover
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RGB kek

bitter harness
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went from 2112 to hardstuck <2050

placid mirage
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Time to retire

bitter harness
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possibly

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not your fault

junior plover
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About to get hotter streak

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1 game

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cmon

bitter harness
junior plover
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DO IT

placid mirage
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My favorite part is when my whole convoke actually goes off

junior plover
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GIMME ROGUE MAGE

tulip falcon
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if u substract 600 mmr from rbg atm thats the arena equivalent

vital parcel
tame chasm
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cause it takes 4x as long to get there

junior plover
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lost

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feelsbadman

tulip falcon
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i mean ive seen people legit backpeddling at 2500 mmr this season because they happened to win a few games in a row

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so

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probably

junior plover
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because no glad mount in rgb

tulip falcon
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thank god

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imagine

placid mirage
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U can get 2.1k not too bad as boomie

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Took me like a week having never played rbg in my life

tulip falcon
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the cr just takes a long time to farm

placid mirage
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Yolo to 1400-1600, then apply to groups with slightly higher cr than you

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Add the good players and the leaders

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If u have to starfall to pad so they think you're good

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I mean it's mostly about perception at that cr

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Almost no one is looking at details. And I'm not saying starfall constantly and lose but if you have to pad some so they think ur #1 mega damage it helps getting invited back

bitter harness
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just say it was from convoke

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and just make sure it's not your top spell

placid mirage
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Spam mass root and incap roar then link cc done at end

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Ez clap

bitter harness
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it seems like there's so many player stuck at 2k

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in LFG

placid mirage
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Yeah there are

tulip falcon
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tbh easiest way to carry pugs is just to play objectives if you're something like a boomkin

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fuck teamfight

placid mirage
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I'm at 2.2k and the only groups are 2k and 2.4k

tulip falcon
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people below 2k mmr dont know how to defend properly and will trinket random shit

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or put weird classes on def

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so just play objectives and inc

placid mirage
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Idk I also find they are bad at teamfighting so u can clap the teamfigh t and roll over them

tulip falcon
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idk if you're good playing objectives on certain maps is the easy way to carry

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as something like a boomkin or rogue

placid mirage
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Yeah, I mostly didn't because I didn't even know all the maps much less how to play objectives

tulip falcon
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have queued alts at low mmr and seen people defend with adaptation, get hibernate capped or trinket the first cc that hits them so many times

placid mirage
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You can only cap thru a root though right cyclone isn't long enough unless they are some pepega melee

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Ya but u can't hibe players most of the time unless I am dumb

tulip falcon
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you'd be surprised

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how many people don't actually shift it at low mmr

tame chasm
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i got one guy hibernated in caster form once last night, unlucky timing

tulip falcon
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well he just shifted too late

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since you can still shift out while hibernated

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but it wont matter

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nope

placid mirage
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You can still shift through hibernate?

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Like a root or smth

tulip falcon
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ye but it won't break the cc if it's already hit you

placid mirage
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Oh

tame chasm
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ah that's probably what happened then

junior plover
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You can but it wont dispell

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the hibernate

placid mirage
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Icic

junior plover
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it doesnt do anything

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except maybe save you a gcd

tulip falcon
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it's just a statement of them saying "i know what I should've probably done"

junior plover
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man I love Niya feral

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its like good old days

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of first 2 weeks of season

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people die in 2 convoke bites

placid mirage
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Niya #1

tulip falcon
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ptsd from early season

placid mirage
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Idk how to make my starsurges hit harder

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They max like 18k and that's when I'm cheesing with bell

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I have boat

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But 18k is pretty rare it's usually like 14-16

junior plover
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is called Cats
plays owl

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you disgust me

placid mirage
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Feral confusing me small brain

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Boomer only

junior plover
pallid coral
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Boat doesn't make starsurge hit harder

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just makes it crit

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which is similar

placid mirage
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I'm only at 24% mastery 22% vers

pallid coral
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but crit dreambinder surges will hit harder

junior plover
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implying they already crit

placid mirage
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Like the dude above a while ago got hit by like a 26k full moon mine only ever hits for 20k crits

pallid coral
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more mastery

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more vers

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etc etc

placid mirage
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Rip ok

junior plover
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which is 40% more damage

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or so

placid mirage
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Yeah but my incarn convoke trinket full moons are never that high

junior plover
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ahh

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gotcha

placid mirage
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Still only 20k ish

bitter harness
tulip falcon
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are you running niya

bitter harness
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im so angry

scarlet pelican
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Hey guys any pro Balance Druid here ?

placid mirage
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Yes I am niya

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Even when I incarn + convoke + bell cheese I max out like 18k surges

foggy ravine
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well whats your gear like

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whats your ilvl

placid mirage
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215 equipped pvp

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My rings are sub optimal I have a 197 vers/mast but a 203 vers/crit heavy crit

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It gives like 100 crit 100 vers

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Most of my gear is conquest gear that is either haste or crit, I have mastery on boots (lego), I think helmet and then legs

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I checked vendor and all the pieces I have haste or crit on don't have a mastery option anyways

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So I guess I just need to upgrade my rings mostly if I want more mastery

scarlet pelican
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Isn't haste and versa main stats ?

placid mirage
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Haste doesn't make my surges bigger

scarlet pelican
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Int haste versatility mastery crit

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I thought that was the order

junior plover
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ye but he wants BIG dick hits

placid mirage
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I have seen people talk about a lot of different orders so I ignore them mostly

junior plover
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I'd say haste is surprisingly meh for convoke owl

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if you look at high level gameplay in 3s

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you just spam clone

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clone

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clone

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and instant spells

foggy ravine
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hence haste

junior plover
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Yeah but

foggy ravine
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to help get those clones off

scarlet pelican
junior plover
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you clone so much

scarlet pelican
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That's the one I saw

tulip falcon
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haste = faster clone time too

junior plover
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Ye but it doesnt matter too much if you literally cast 7 or 8 clones in a row

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doesnt amount to much

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you just keep casting clone on cloned people

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anticipating dispell

foggy ravine
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personal pref IMO

junior plover
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yee for sure

foggy ravine
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haste or mast work

placid mirage
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I have found best results just have bigger burst in my surge windows so I am trying to do that tbh

scarlet pelican
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Clone = cyclone?

junior plover
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its definitely not hugely important tho

foggy ravine
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vers > over all

junior plover
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yeah cyclone

scarlet pelican
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I find the casting so slow I def going haste and vers main stats

junior plover
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For kyrian tho

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definitely haste

tulip falcon
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theres generally a recommended percentage for haste to reach

scarlet pelican
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I'm night fae tho

placid mirage
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Only time.my casting feels slownis trying to get into solar

junior plover
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NF should be personal pref

placid mirage
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I'm at like 5% haste tho

tulip falcon
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yea thats low

scarlet pelican
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๐Ÿ˜ถ

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5%?

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Damn that must be slow

placid mirage
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I take mast>haste>crit but most of my gear has been crit over haste so

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Just unlucky I guess

junior plover
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to be fair one big advantage of haste is that monk is really popular

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and you get to clone their fist

placid mirage
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I would trade my crit for haste if I could

scarlet pelican
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In my head works like this if I can cast 2 spells in the time you cast 1 I do more damage

junior plover
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Well yeah

foggy ravine
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im 5 crit 13 haste 17 mast and 29.5 vers surge crits in incarn around 22k ish with dreambinder

placid mirage
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That's like 100% haste

junior plover
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but a lot of your damage is instant spells

tulip falcon
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casting as boomer lul

devout frost
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icyveins pepeLaugh

junior plover
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altho convoke does scale with haste

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obviously

placid mirage
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@foggy ravine ilvl?

scarlet pelican
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Startsurge?

foggy ravine
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217

junior plover
devout frost
timid shuttle
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which legendary bis for boomkins

junior plover
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wdym

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the cast time goes down

devout frost
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no lol

junior plover
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doesnt it?

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lol

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ok nvm

placid mirage
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So I think I just need dreambinder then over boat

devout frost
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convoke always casts 16 spells in 4 seconds

junior plover
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I thought it would cast them faster

devout frost
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haste does nothing for it

junior plover
tulip falcon
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nope

junior plover
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This is so sad

foggy ravine
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I have both boat and dreambinder but I prefer dreambinder

devout frost
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goes for most channels in general afaik

scarlet pelican
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Boomkies don't cast ? ๐Ÿค”

junior plover
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HOOGE value

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tbh

foggy ravine
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like with dreambinder if you get your convoked kicked that fine you can launch 4 starsurges with the fat mastery buff still lol

scarlet pelican
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So what do they use for damage ?

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Apart for moonfire and sunfire

devout frost
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starsurge

scarlet pelican
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Yes startsurge

junior plover
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Starfire wuuut

scarlet pelican
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But you need astral power from that

devout frost
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you dont use dots for damage

scarlet pelican
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And that comes from were ?

devout frost
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NB and using dots in bear

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from shooting star procs

placid mirage
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For 2s/3s foe or solstice?

scarlet pelican
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I use wrath and the other one ๐Ÿ˜ถ

foggy ravine
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imo preference unless kyrian then foe

devout frost
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^

foggy ravine
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I like foe for a bit more burst on goes

devout frost
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i prefer FoE in general for arenas

foggy ravine
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gives you an extra surge or 2 during a burst with dreambinder

devout frost
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but if ur a boat memer it loses value

placid mirage
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Why

devout frost
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doesnt give u an extra SS in boat window

scarlet pelican
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Oh man I have so much to learn LOL

placid mirage
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I should just suck it up and go dreambinder and take 197 boots

devout frost
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yes

foggy ravine
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you go into eclipse with around 90AP

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drop foe and then start launching starsurges

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with dots up you ez get 6 surges in that burst

scarlet pelican
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Foe?

foggy ravine
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fury of elune

placid mirage
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Fury of elune

scarlet pelican
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Oh right

devout frost
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when u pop bond

foggy ravine
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^ exactly

placid mirage
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Bond kekw

glad hinge
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Which guardian druid legendary for rbg's?

devout frost
placid mirage
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What do u think i am a skilled player

scarlet pelican
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I normally go foe and cast convoke

foggy ravine
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if I didn't play both resto and boomy i'd be kyrian

scarlet pelican
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Is that wrong then

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Oh damn so noob

devout frost
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never FoE before convoke

scarlet pelican
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Oh shit

placid mirage
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@devout frost is sleeper the immune to cc one

devout frost
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wastes the benefit

placid mirage
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Why not NOW?

scarlet pelican
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My swifty macro is shit then xD

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I made like cast foe trinket that gives intelect and cast convoke

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PFFFFD

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-900 is then

placid mirage
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Is sleeper just way better for burst windows

scarlet pelican
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IQ*

foggy ravine
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immune to cc as guardian run across mid ez

devout frost
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you play guardian for FC

placid mirage
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Also what aff do u go as guard

devout frost
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with sleeper

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you just activate incarn

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go into travel form

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and fucking book it

scarlet pelican
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Reformed CR ?

placid mirage
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Feral aff for move speed?

glad hinge
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Any way to fix the travel form bug which makes u slower than you should be?

devout frost
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just called being in combat

glad hinge
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aha

scarlet pelican
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@proud crest I do that

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Works all the time

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In combat just go cat and put your racing boots on

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Ofc bear 1st to get the buff for damage reduction

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Then I go cat and boot it or use my night fae vulpin and jump the fuck out of there while doing a 360 and mass entanglement them all

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๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

vital parcel
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Btw guys, I've asked this before but i dont think i got any answer, is there any reason for saving the honor gear over your conquest gear?

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Will it get better than conquest gear down the line?

devout frost
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it wont

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caps at 197

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until later patches

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in which conquest ilvl will increase too

scarlet pelican
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@devout frost what's your main spec ?

vital parcel
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yeah i thought so too

tulip falcon
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man i love random bgs so much

devout frost
scarlet pelican
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@devout frost cr ?

devout frost
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main alt shadow and hpal

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but have 5 classes ready in case we do switches

scarlet pelican
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Damn son

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You go you ahah

devout frost
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im 2.1k and not pushing until sire dead

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dont have many hours over to play rn cause of rona

scarlet pelican
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I have loads of questions about boom

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Which I don't know the answers

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Like when should I use sunfire or moonfire? Because I use them both at the same time and just tab and try to get and many people with sunfire and moonfire as possible then I cast starfall

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But idk if that's correct

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Then when should I use wrath or the moon one I forgot the name

junior plover
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no time because corona?

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i only have time for pvp because corona

scarlet pelican
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Probably key worker .... ??

tulip falcon
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yea key workers don't have that luxury atm lol

junior plover
scarlet pelican
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I always worked non stop

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And will get even worse now

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6 days 12h

tulip falcon
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only reason i started playing wow again was because im forced to work from home

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and could do all the boring shit i didnt want to do while working

junior plover
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now I'm addicted to pvp

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my performance dropped 50%

scarlet pelican
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I couldn't stay at home doing nothing not for me

junior plover
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probably

tulip falcon
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i did 50-60 in my work hours

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work well spent

scarlet pelican
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Anyway can someone answer my questions ?

junior plover
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I wish but im kitty

scarlet pelican
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Oh kitty's are nice xD

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But I like the moon and the sun

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Yes sir

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Or rbg

tulip falcon
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dont starfall in rbg either

scarlet pelican
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Ohhhhhh

limpid kraken
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@scarlet pelican assuming we are talking about arena: you should be trying to keep moonfire and sunfire up on most targets for constant pressure AND as an astral power generator. Starfall i dont think is quite worth the astral power. your general playstyle will be to keep up the dots, build astral power w/ wrath + dots. spend big astral power w/ eclipse procs into kill targets (ideally 3+ starsurges back to back_

foggy ravine
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starfall just pads meters in rbgs and is bad

tulip falcon
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ye

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useless dmg

foggy ravine
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only situation to use imo is if you play a rot comp

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but even then

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surge>

limpid kraken
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starsurge is the reason you want to play boomie rn

scarlet pelican
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Right

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So basicly "never" cast starfall

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Startsurge > starfall

tulip falcon
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just unbind it to break the habit ez clap

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lol

scarlet pelican
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And keep dots and use wrath to generate Ap

foggy ravine
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^

scarlet pelican
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So this is the situation I'm in right now

junior plover
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why tho

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druids in AWC

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definitely starfalled

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a whole bunch

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well not a lot but a few times per game

scarlet pelican
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When do I use Wrath or the moon one ?

limpid kraken
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i dont think so except convoke typically will cast one

junior plover
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Nope specifically hard cast

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I remember thinking "huh"

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because i also thought you shouldnt cast it

tulip falcon
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hard cast?

junior plover
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just cast by hand

tulip falcon
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you sure you thinking about the same ability?

junior plover
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wait

tulip falcon
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starfall is instant

limpid kraken
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wrath > starfire typically, simply b/c its just an astral power generator and filler. only exception is ofc when you are pushing yourself to the next eclipse

junior plover
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ohh

tulip falcon
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you thinking of starfire?

junior plover
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ye no

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starfire

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yep

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yepyep

tulip falcon
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lol

foggy ravine
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lol

junior plover
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lol

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see thats why im kitty

limpid kraken
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starfire is used to push into eclipse

scarlet pelican
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Right I'm learning a lot I like this !

limpid kraken
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not a terrible idea in situations where you have to kite, but your WW partner is cleaving the double melee team

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could justify starfall there

scarlet pelican
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SOOOOO RECAP: DOTS ON ALL TIMES, Wrath to generate Ap Starfire to enter eclipse, very very rare to cast starfall, reach 90 AP and blast starsurge over and over & repeat again !

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Got it right ?

foggy ravine
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use clone too

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will make you better than a lot of boomies

scarlet pelican
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Clones give ap ?

junior plover
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no

foggy ravine
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no

scarlet pelican
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I use it already

junior plover
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theyre just good

scarlet pelican
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On healers

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And turn to damage dealer

junior plover
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you should use it off dr on everyone pretty much

tulip falcon
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its the best cc in the game when used properly

junior plover
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when youre not going

scarlet pelican
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Dr?

junior plover
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diminishing returns

scarlet pelican
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Ah right

junior plover
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best to watch some high level gameplay from a streamer

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awc isnt really a good representation of rated arenas

scarlet pelican
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So when should I use convoke?

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And how

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Because people say to not use foe before convoke

limpid kraken
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depends on your rating too xD

junior plover
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Youre looking for a window where the opponent has no answer to your convoke

scarlet pelican
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So when do I use foe ? After convoke ?

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Ah right got ya

junior plover
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depending on your partner

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and the matchup

foggy ravine
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cuz a full convoke is a gg

junior plover
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these windows change

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but for example into mage

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you wanna wait until counterspell is gone

scarlet pelican
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Is there anyway I can make my convoke stronger ? In terms of damage ?

junior plover
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conduit

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mastery

foggy ravine
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being in an eclipse

junior plover
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niya soulbind

foggy ravine
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or incarn

junior plover
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^ these in game

foggy ravine
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since mastery buffs your damage

scarlet pelican
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What about sunfire ?

foggy ravine
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keep dots on everyone

limpid kraken
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if moonfire is already on a target, convoke will not recase moonfire on that target

scarlet pelican
limpid kraken
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yeh cuz haste = more GCDs in arena

foggy ravine
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but haste makes dots tick faster for more AP and faster clone casts etc

limpid kraken
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and faster clones

foggy ravine
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and how often do you get to just spam wrath or starfire uninterrupted?

scarlet pelican
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Got that but where does versa come to place ?

limpid kraken
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best value stat for pvp

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as you get offensive and defesnive value

scarlet pelican
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Fucking hell

foggy ravine
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vers boosts damage and makes ya tanky

scarlet pelican
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Thank you all for your wisdom

foggy ravine
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like I have 30% vers so thats 30% bonus damage and 15% reduction

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yuge

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ya then 40% bonus on top of that

junior plover
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trinket bonus on top

glad hinge
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How do you reach 30% vers? 226 ilvl?

junior plover
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yep

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also more healing

junior plover
scarlet pelican
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I def gonna focus on that

foggy ravine
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im 216 in boomy gear 220 in resto

junior plover
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I'm 25% at 218 feral

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altho my cloke has no vers

scarlet pelican
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So legendary, balance of all things for boom right ? Where do I build it ? Leg or feet where can I get better stats ?

foggy ravine
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I use dreambinder but its preference really boat or binder

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i Have boat built for feetand binder chest

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idk if thats right but yolo

limpid kraken
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i think dreambinder is a more consistent leggo than BOAT, but people do like both it seems

foggy ravine
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I use boat for ctf maps in rbgs

scarlet pelican
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I have no intentions of doing rainds

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Raids

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Only pvp here xD

limpid kraken
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def seems better for RBGs where you can get more freecasting off

foggy ravine
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rbgs I normally binder unless going for an efc kill

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cuz a guranteed crit into stacks is huge

scarlet pelican
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I will go pants thrn

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Then

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Raid environment is super toxic

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Can't be asked

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Rather pvp

foggy ravine
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haven't touched raid yet

junior plover
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I cant be bothered scheduling time for a guild

foggy ravine
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but would like to try it at some point

limpid kraken
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yeh ngl based on wow pvp history that comment is ironic

junior plover
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raiding itself is fun

foggy ravine
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exactly the scheduling is the hard part

junior plover
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but i wanna raid on demand

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and pugs are not fun

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i am well aware that im a top3 member of the group and everyone below me will waste my time in a pug

#

and its infuriating

scarlet pelican
#

AHHHH

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Big big question guys

#

This is final one

junior plover
#

Good enough to kill this boss? Better try 100 attempts before you get the right pug

limpid kraken
#

no worry lion, thats what this channel is for

scarlet pelican
#

For the lego I was thinking buying the 235 iLvL legendary but my friend said I need 5k soul ash to out my legendary there ...

#

I thought it was 1250 to put the legendary on

#

The memory in the legendary

chrome panther
#

For rank 1 yes.

scarlet pelican
#

If ghat makes sense

#

That

limpid kraken
#

yeh lookup "how to craft legendary" on wowhead and you will be able to find a chart

chrome panther
#

Straight to rank 4 is 5.2k

turbid jolt
#

what potency conduits you think for feral night fae / niya

foggy ravine
#

1250 soul ash for 190 legendary

lucid galleon
#

You need to pay each time you upgrade

foggy ravine
#

5k total for 235

turbid jolt
#

i am using TfB and CoE righ tnow but i think coe is overkill

scarlet pelican
#

Oh damn

foggy ravine
#

tbh I craft r1 then save for r4

#

save my gold

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cuz I am broke boy

limpid kraken
#

theres a lot to break down there, you dont "lose" any ash by crafting early though as you can spend remaining ash to upgrade

lucid galleon
#

And you gotta buy each ilvl piece each time

foggy ravine
#

exactly

lucid galleon
#

so 190>210>225>234

#

235

limpid kraken
#

r1 are cheap from gold perspective, so yes imo best is to do rank 1 then save ash to upgrade to rank 4

foggy ravine
#

why I do 190 then 235

lucid galleon
#

or you could skip 190>235 and save cash

scarlet pelican
#

So you telling me I have to pay 140k for pants and then 5k soul ash ?

#

Thays bullshit

#

Rather go rank 1 and lvl up with soul ash farming

lucid galleon
#

You could just save the 5k ash & go straight for 195

limpid kraken
#

rank 4 leggos are expensive

tulip falcon
#

you still have to buy the next rank of gear to upgrade the legendary too

lucid galleon
#

I've done 190>225 & now saving for 235

limpid kraken
#

you will still have to buy the base piece when you upgrade BTW

tulip falcon
#

so you spend less gold if u just farm all the soul ash beforehand

#

and craft a high rank

foggy ravine
#

ya

tulip falcon
#

otherwise u have to buy all the diff ranks of gear

scarlet pelican
#

Oh my days

limpid kraken
#

but stil have to shell out for the epxensive piece

#

or farm mats

foggy ravine
#

if you buy each rank of gear you like throwing gold away

scarlet pelican
#

But 5k is a lot of soul ash xD

limpid kraken
#

4 weeks worth

foggy ravine
#

for highest ilvl in the game

lucid galleon
#

It's a few weeks of layer 8 haha

scarlet pelican
#

Exactly

limpid kraken
#

or 3.5 something like that

turbid jolt
#

you get 1140 per week without mission or quest

scarlet pelican
#

1 month for my lego

turbid jolt
#

so it's 4 plus some missions and shit

foggy ravine
#

im a leggo addict 3 190s and a 235 xD

scarlet pelican
#

Dear god I'm gonna die

limpid kraken
#

or 4 tier 1 leggos

turbid jolt
#

unelss you count having r1 already

scarlet pelican
#

I have nothing

wheat orbit
#

Got some questions for a boomie that does rbgs 2100+ if you could dm me โค๏ธ

scarlet pelican
#

I have the memory

turbid jolt
#

yeah like i have apex for pve r4

turbid jolt
#

and ij ust made eye r1 this week

scarlet pelican
#

Just need the soul ash

foggy ravine
#

I have 2 resto leggos and then boat/binder

lime light
#

fuck man

turbid jolt
#

now i gotta wait 3 weeks for r4 eye

lime light
#

today was a reset

#

apparently

#

week have not enough days to q

turbid jolt
#

(symmetry)

tardy hare
#

imagine being

#

rank 1 feral

#

then dc'ing me with mc

#

then lose the game

#

then emote at me when losing

#

smh

primal bane
#

is 0 3 7 viable?

scarlet pelican
#

Should I craft the lego now then or get the 5k soul ash then ?

lime light
#

if he played with a french woman and u with prot pala

#

doesnt matter

tardy hare
#

: )

lime light
#

did he play with her/

tiny oar
#

hahaah

foggy ravine
lime light
#

french players biggest simps

tardy hare
lucid galleon
#

I'd craft 190

lime light
#

yeah

lucid galleon
#

then save if you don't have the cash

foggy ravine
#

responded to wrong person oops

tiny oar
#

i wish i could play feral rdruid with our boi @tardy hare

scarlet pelican
#

Hm at least I would have the lego there doing damage I guess

turbid jolt
#

r4 helm was only 60k on my server last i checked

turbid jolt
#

that is like 2 hours of skinning bugs

tiny oar
#

i been thinking about it

#

no queues my time of day on NA

turbid jolt
#

spread that out over 3 weeks nbd

scarlet pelican
#

So you saying I can get 190 ilvl and then save soul ash for rank 4 and jump 2 3 ?

tulip falcon
#

eu more toxic

lime light
#

@tiny oar disgusting vaseline

turbid jolt
#

yes exactly

scarlet pelican
#

What about the memory tho does it disappear?

turbid jolt
#

just need it once

#

you learn i

scarlet pelican
#

AHH

turbid jolt
#

same with missives

tardy hare
#

come eu alli so i can ignore you and only play random bgs with y'all

#

pog!

junior plover
turbid jolt
#

only one time

scarlet pelican
#

Sorry I'm in noob mode

#

Thank you aliandren

scarlet pelican
#

I will do that then

#

I will get 190 save for r4

primal bane
#

is 208 ilvl gearlet now?

scarlet pelican
#

Money is not the problem

#

Soul ash is

turbid jolt
#

well soul ash will be the same no matter what

tardy hare
#

yes

primal bane
#

damn

turbid jolt
#

so if you are rolling in the gold just upgrade when you can

foggy ravine
#

i'd say 210-215 is average

#

220 is geared

#

over that

lime light
#

i wake up every day, and iam thinking if i should try hard a bit again or not, every day same answer ๐Ÿ˜

foggy ravine
#

insane

tardy hare
scarlet pelican
#

Yes but I need to get that 5k soul ash

turbid jolt
#

ehhh

scarlet pelican
#

That's a lot of farm

turbid jolt
#

so

#

there is really no difference

#

if you upgrade 1 to 2 to 3 to 4

#

or 1 to 4, in terms of soul ash

scarlet pelican
#

Money ain't a issue

#

credit card

turbid jolt
#

lol

foggy ravine
#

lol

turbid jolt
#

so in that case just upgrade every time you get to the breakpoints

lucid galleon
#

If I'm just playing PvP, is gearing through JUST PvP viable?

turbid jolt
#

Soul Ash Crafting Costs
Rank 1 (iLvl 190): Requires 1250 Soul Ash
Rank 2 (iLvL 210): Requires 2000 Soul Ash
Rank 3 (iLvL 225): Requires 3200 Soul Ash
Rank 4 (iLvL 235): Requires 5150 Soul Ash
Soul Ash Upgrade Costs
Rank 1 to 2 (iLvl 210): Requires 750 Soul Ash
Rank 2 to 3 (iLvL 225): Requires 1200 Soul Ash
Rank 3 to 4 (iLvL 235): Requires 1950 Soul Ash

scarlet pelican
#

OK cool, thank you for everyone help I learned a lot today !

glad hinge
#

more viable thaN PVE GEARING

scarlet pelican
#

@turbid jolt thank you !

junior plover
#

pve gearing omegalul

foggy ravine
#

rbgs for gear >

scarlet pelican
#

I will follow your advice

junior plover
#

That being said like 1/3rd of my gear is vault pve gear

foggy ravine
#

2100 rbgs is like 1800 in arena

scarlet pelican
#

I will get 190 and upgrade that way I will get the effect from the legendary

junior plover
#

Also you can have double Vers Mastery rings if one is pve

#

or Vers Haste

#

or whatever you want

lucid galleon
#

Been trying to do 2's, but always come up against 210/215 ilvl who walk over us

junior plover
#

U gotta git gud friend

foggy ravine
#

2s is all warrior / healer

junior plover
#

Not true

foggy ravine
#

ya not true

lucid galleon
#

I know, I'm looking for a guild right now to push with

foggy ravine
#

hyperbole

junior plover
#

actually very few warriors lately

primal bane
#

being a boomie trying to get into RBGs feels so unreal

#

its like i have VIP tickets

foggy ravine
#

lol

lucid galleon
#

Do we walk into them @primal bane ?

primal bane
#

yeah like

#

over 200 ilvl

#

boomie

junior plover
#

here we go again

primal bane
#

thats all you need

junior plover
#

ofc gear makes it easier

#

but snuppy got 1.9k in 2s on a 160 feral like last week

#

so its not an excuse

#

ofc youre probably not top5 feral eu

foggy ravine
#

with less gear you have to play a better control game

#

less zug

junior plover
#

but the sentiment is there

primal bane
#

if top 5 best feral player in the contintent can do it

#

everyone should be able to i think

#

lazy milennials

#

wait what

tulip falcon
#

that happened years ago

primal bane
#

whats rank 1 defined as then

junior plover
#

true

#

top 0.5%

#

it makes no sense

#

but thats the way it goes

foggy ravine
#

rank 1% but that doesn't even make sense with how it is

turbid jolt
#

what gladiator used to be

lime light
#

are u polish kid @junior plover

junior plover
#

yes

lime light
#

elo

tulip falcon
#

its not rank 1%

#

its just called rank one because of old terms

junior plover
#

elo trollsaft

tulip falcon
#

in cata it used to only be the actual top team who got the seasonal glad titles

#

so the name just stuck for the current ones

#

until cata rather

primal bane
tulip falcon
#

then in mop they changed it i think?

foggy ravine
#

that team comp is garbo

#

double dh double rogue

#

tf

tulip falcon
#

your healers are the only thing thats right

primal bane
#

no warlock either

tulip falcon
#

warlock is whatev

primal bane
#

bro this shit gonna be ugly

foggy ravine
#

hella stealth so that can make node maps a bit easier I guess

primal bane
#

i just lost a rbg

#

with a 037 comp

#

we were on gilneas

#

and shotcaller decided we will ignore mid and just go on theirs

#

they 1v1 destroyed our defender

#

and capped all 3

tulip falcon
#

ah the random bg strat nice

primal bane
#

we lost in like a few secs

#

lol

foggy ravine
#

only works if other team is brain dead and doesn't look at you lol

primal bane
#

nah but i knew we were gonna get fucked

#

when teh shotcaller was mumbling the entire strategy

#

its just "go their base" but made it take 1 minute to say

tulip falcon
#

guys letz rush LH they will never suspect!!

primal bane
#

i mean we did almost cap but its still so shit

lime light
#

hello guys, i would like to remind u, that its my channel, and please be nice to eachj other

primal bane
#

so easy to re-cap or lose the other 2

foggy ravine
#

ya i've seen teams send a stealth push and spin mid

#

and that works nicely sometimes

tulip falcon
#

pretty normal

foggy ravine
#

ya

tulip falcon
#

ghost base with rogue boomie

fervent gull
#

Actually going straight forward their base is not a bad strat

tulip falcon
#

its awful to just rush back base on gilneas

fervent gull
#

Everyone tends to go wws so its a easy spin

tulip falcon
#

you are fighting on top of gy for no reason

fervent gull
#

But you gotta take a ninja team to spin wws afterwards

foggy ravine
#

idk everytime a team has done that vs my team we end up with ww for free and spin our first node

tulip falcon
#

ye

#

cos ur legit on top of gy

#

ur just gimping urself if u rush back base

fervent gull
#

Its a good diversion

foggy ravine
#

it works if you can trap the other team rotating back but most teams at a decent mmr will notice it

tulip falcon
#

ye it wont ever work against any team with a slight amount of brain

fervent gull
#

At 2k they still dont

loud wedge
#

Do you need to win in your weekly bracket, or simply play one for weekly?

tulip falcon
#

pls dont do it

tardy hare
tulip falcon
junior plover
tulip falcon
tardy hare
tulip falcon
tardy hare
tulip falcon
#

this is the most epic mexican standoff in history

novel mantle
#

whats best to make BOAT on

#

legs>?

junior plover
junior plover
novel mantle
#

'^

tardy hare
#

I prefer to make boats on a stand

junior plover
novel mantle
#

God dammit ๐Ÿ˜„

tardy hare
junior plover
#

I dont actually know tho

tardy hare
#

What other item can have boat

#

Probably go legs for biggest stat increase with ilvl

foggy ravine
#

feet and legs

#

feet if you are pve andy

#

cuz there are raid legs that are good apparently

novel mantle
#

legs it is then! thanks mate

primal bane
#

x2 boomie 1 rogue 1 mage 1 warr 1 ret is good dps slots for rbg?

foggy ravine
#

ye that works

#

lock would be good for dispel protection

tardy hare
#

If they do big pump

tulip falcon
#

yea

foggy ravine
#

but every comp can't be perfect meta

tulip falcon
#

lock is good for corruption slow as well

foggy ravine
#

ya its aids

#

lol

primal bane
#

everytime i face a lock in arena

#

i feel like i chose the wrong shit lol

crude minnow
#

you need another slot there anyway

primal bane
#

the idea of being unstoppable killing machine if ur not focused 24/7 sounds so nice

#

but bfa lock was shitty so i never realised they could be this nice

crude minnow
#

If you wanna run an extra melee, dk or monk are good there

tulip falcon
#

bfa destro was something

crude minnow
#

DK+Warrior is my fav melee to have

tulip falcon
#

that we all want to forget

primal bane
#

never played that late into xpac

#

early in a lot of dps were shit

foggy ravine
#

my main team is rdruid disc hpal - rogue dh warrior monk ret dk mage playing at 2600 mmr

primal bane
#

priest lock shaman

tulip falcon
#

even ww sorta slaps in rbgs atm

#

on eu there's a lot of heavy melee comps at 2.4+

crude minnow
#

WW+war+dk is sick

#

Mage+rogue for offense on flag maps FUCKS

primal bane
#

boomie/war never worked for me

#

if anyone plays that

#

lmk how u do any dmg

tulip falcon
#

in what

primal bane
#

3v3

tulip falcon
#

wasnt this about rbg

crude minnow
#

Boomie war can feel underwhelming. Spear+beam is disgusting. Arms has 1m goes and boomy has 1m goes

#

Convoke with war+boomie cant go off reliably though, so dont rely on it

junior plover
#

Boomie should only be paired with casters

primal bane
#

ye i switched it up

junior plover
#

change my mind

tulip falcon
#

boomkin ret enters chat

junior plover
#

thats different

#

๐Ÿ˜ 

#

bop is illegal

crude minnow
#

boomkin+ret didnt work well for me due to no reliable slows. But it obv slaps

foggy ravine
#

I played hunter boomy hpal some and it was fun

tardy hare
#

boomy, prot, disc

#

throw every protection spell on the boomy

#

rely on convoke

foggy ravine
#

lmao

tulip falcon
#

prots arent real people

#

they dont count

tiny oar
#

yea they sure fucking arent

#

FUCK PROTS

crude minnow
#

Should I make my 3rd char an hpal or a disc priest? I feel like hpal may be nerfed a bit so disc is prob equally good idk

#

Also I like rbgs more anyway

safe heart
#

I made a disc alt
Feels pretty fun to play

foggy ravine
#

disc hpal both meta for rbgs

safe heart
#

Instant groups too

tulip falcon
#

they're pretty equal in rbg

foggy ravine
#

disc is fun

#

I ended up focusing on rsham alt instead

#

love it

#

also kiting as rsham in arena is nice

lime light
#

dr on stats after 25% or 30% @void nimbus

#

versa

void nimbus
#

Ew gross pvp

lime light
#

answer triggered

tardy hare
lime light
#

so if i get 10 versa

#

above 25%

#

its 9

void nimbus
#
From 30% to 39%, there's a 10% penalty.
From 39% to 47%, there's a 20% penalty.
From 47% to 54%, there's a 30% penalty.
From 54% to 66%, there's a 40% penalty.
From 66% to 126%, there's a 50% penalty.
You can't get more than 126% from gear rating.```
tulip falcon
#

ye its 10% of whatever is above 25%

void nimbus
#

That's what I have, not sure if it's still accurate

tulip falcon
void nimbus
#

I think they loosened it recently

tulip falcon
#

ah hmm

#

ah ye i see it now

lime light
#

so above 30%

#

there is dr

tulip falcon
#

yep

lime light
#

before we fine

tulip falcon
#

so anything u gain after 30% will have 10% taken off

#

then above 39% its 20% etc

#

thought it was still 25% so i was starting to think about it

#

happy days

lime light
#

i wonder how does it work with

#

trinket set

primal bane
#

haymaker in eye of the storm rbg

#

is making this race choice

#

all worth it

tulip falcon
#

yea no clue about trinket bonus

void nimbus
#

You're also further away from it than you probably think, as it's after base values a lot of the time

#

@lime light

primal bane
#

why did i just gain like 13 cr for an rbg

#

though the games give 50+

tardy hare
#

after 1500 it's 20 max

#

25~*

tulip falcon
#

@void nimbus what's the addon that shows the penalty value?

void nimbus
tulip falcon
#

ah nice ty

#

a whole 0.1 lost

#

!!

tardy hare
#

F!!!

tiny oar
#

O damn down 200 cr u go buddy

tulip falcon
#

those pug groups who value vers > everything will never take me now

tiny oar
#

Yup

#

Been queuing last 3 hrs trying to get 2400 holy fuck man

pallid coral
#

What is going on with those groups shots whack

tulip falcon
#

i finally stepped into 3s last night after i got ptsd from the first 2 weeks

#

doesnt seem as bad

tiny oar
#

Yea pretty decent now

tulip falcon
#

i have hopes for next season in terms of taming all the wild shit atm

tiny oar
#

Next seas pls god no way

#

I need balance patch YESTERDAY man

tulip falcon
#

well that would be nice but ye

#

lol

tiny oar
#

Haha yea xd

tulip falcon
#

i think there will defo be some changes before next season but its already scuffed regardless of what they do atm

tiny oar
#

Blizz tuning soon TM

tulip falcon
#

do we know what is happening with soulbinds conduits and renown etc because its not going to take long to max this out

#

is there going to be more borrowed power systems every patch like bfa

#

๐Ÿ’ค

tiny oar
#

Yea imagine we finish these horseshit renown campaign questlines and they come out with 9 new ones next patch

#

Holy FuK

tulip falcon
#

i cant imagine what else they will do

#

whenever they do borrowed power shit it usually gets added onto throughout the expac

#

i guess legion didnt really

last trout
#

oof hopefully not more of those campaign quests - those point and click between cinematics is so fking boring - Imagine if you couldnt skip only the cinematics ๐Ÿค”

primal bane
#

what spells can break kyrian spear?

chrome panther
#

I imagine every major patch we'll get another 20 renown levels or so

#

companions, cosmetics, maybe some more flat % stam

#

I doubt they'll continue the soulbinds but ๐Ÿคท

tulip falcon
#

could see that i guess

#

"collect 200 souls from the maw"

tiny oar
#

Dont give them any ideas pls

#

I'm fried going 2 bed gl out there homies

stone nest
#

Na they are going to make us do m+ for conquest next

#

Thereโ€™s no way the fuck up the pvp vendor right? They are just going to keep this same thing going right? Right....?

tulip falcon
#

implying they didnt already under deliver on the vendor anyway

stone nest
#

Are you implying this isnโ€™t a massive improvement?

tulip falcon
#

ye of course

#

it's a massive improvement over bfa

foggy ravine
#

I dig the pvp vendor

tepid spoke
#

I do pve and i abuse the shit out of pvp vendor

#

๐Ÿฅฐ

teal hinge
#

It's a big advantage

junior plover
#

arms in defensive stance

primal bane
#

what % of players do pvp actively, like for their own enjoyment not gear

junior plover
#

kek

primal bane
#

like 10%?

junior plover
#

more like 1%

#

if even

primal bane
#

yeah i just am aboutto do my first +10 with the guild

tepid spoke
#

I do pvp when pve is over for the tier

tulip falcon
#

idk theres people that play wow and literally just spam random bgs all day

tepid spoke
#

Or when pvp gear is busted like now

elder maple
#

During beta they said they wanted to not add systems through the xpack as they felt like it wasn't working. Hence the huge number of base systems, so I would expevt them to build upon the existing stuff rather than create new ones.

little temple
#

Starlord vs Incarn as boomer for RBGs? any tips

primal bane
#

i am reaching tipping point of frustration with pvp

#

start feeling like its just not for me

#

think ill become pve enjoyer

#

@little temple starlord kinda better, convoke targets too many people usually to make it worth building one shot

bitter harness
#

so I called someone out today because they had starfall as top spell in RBG

#

and they just left after the game lol

junior plover
#

arms again

#

what the fuck is going on

#

with niya convokem

bitter harness
#

it's pretty big

junior plover
#

15k non crit

#

casual

chrome panther
placid mirage
#

Do u guys actually take starlord a lot in rbg take whatever reason I hadn't considered it

chrome panther
#

yeah starlord > incarn

foggy ravine
#

ya

placid mirage
#

I guess I am pepega

foggy ravine
#

tbh I only take incarn for ctf maps for bursting an efc

chrome panther
#

^

placid mirage
#

Makes sense

chrome panther
#

if ur 1 boomie / rogue, take incarn for FC dunking

placid mirage
#

Otherwise just haste for dps

chrome panther
#

if 2 boomie / rogue, take starlord

placid mirage
#

Ok I'll try that out

#

Should make up for my abysmal haste also

hardy holly
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can someone link me an up-to-date Guide for Resto Druids in RBG?

foggy ravine
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dreambinder + starlord synergize well imo

placid mirage
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Yeah I'm just waiting on ash for dreambinder

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I should have like 3.5k this week tho

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I'll make a ring and get honor boots

chrome panther
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binder goes on chest.

placid mirage
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Cause my rings suck and I have 226 chest tho

chrome panther
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still

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in 2 weeks youll have pvp rings

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and 235 dreambinder chest

foggy ravine
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I put dreambinder chest

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but I can see reasoning for ring

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then you can double vers/haste rings I guess

placid mirage
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3 to 4 weeks prob I still need bracer + boots + rings

chrome panther
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mastery is still very good for boomkin

placid mirage
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And trinket eventually

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I was gonna double vers/mast but depends on my stats I guess

tardy hare
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how tf

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do these people

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even

placid mirage
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I will think about chest

tardy hare
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exist

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wtf

placid mirage
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Bro they are cerebral players

crude minnow
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they prob just dont play 2v2 or 3v3

placid mirage
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They are general patton

tardy hare
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how can u never play 2v2 or 3v3