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Put a wa on prowl?
Do big dam
.... why didnt i think of that lmao
literally just a WA for prowl is castable
Hey I had a question:
Which is the best resto druid legendary for PvP and which slot should I equip it in (Jewelry for more vers? or body pieces for stats?)
best is Verdant Infusion (swift mend one), and the slot isnt that important
whichever slot you dont have conquest piece yet
For RBGs specifically
Mother tree looks really good to me for rbgs.
You typically make legos where the most stats come from
Can't get any mastery gear from vault rip only crit
I cant figure out why the swiftmend one would be the best though? Could you explain its effectiveness?
@mystic wind
That’s for arenas
You don’t eat a hot with swiftmend one and it extends them by 8 secs which instead of reapply hots in that 8 seconds, you can do regrowths, damage, or cc.
Also extending a cenarion ward is big
extending cen ward + adaptive swarm
Adaptive swarm means I can’t 1 shot people as resto though...
Mother tree in rbgs save you so much time and mana. It seems like a no brainer to me.
It would be the one circled around wild growth. Your play style changes in rbgs compared to arenas
Your stats (might be wrong on this) would probably be vers=haste>mastery>crit for rbgs. Haven’t done resto rbgs since legion
how much cr do you lose witgh rbg
Depends on mmr
Are haste breakpoints still a thing or does it scale linearly?
Someone correct me on stat weights if I’m wrong... might be haste>vers=mast>crit
the first one is right
@compact acorn i believe you can get partial ticks on DoTs and HoTs now, if thats what you mean
so you dont need to hit a certain point of haste to "gain" another tick
Well haste flat out increases our heals
I was just wondering if there is a point where you hit diminishing returns
And maybe want to go into Mastery
there are DRs on all secondary stats now
30% all stats hard cap until dr . Unsure of any soft caps.
Think it’s linear for pvp until that point.
for resto for both rbg and arena you want haste+vers in all slots
It’s funny though because I think it’s still a little unknown for pvp on that
mastery is also decent for arena, less useful in bgs since youre spread healing more
Yea damage is so high that I think it's prob better to dip into mastery before 30% haste
what legendary for resto in RBG?
Scroll up or google bro
I wish we had pins where it was like legendaries based on spec and content
resto:
2s
3s:
Rbgs:
Boomie:
2s
3s:
Rbgs etc
rdruid : 2, verdant, 3s, verdant, rbg, play balance
What do you guys think about Circle of Life and Death (your Your damage over time effects deal their damage in 25% less time, and your healing over time effects in 15% less time?)
for RBGs
It sounds like an oom machine
People like to play content differently
Hey yall - is there a resto pvp guide anywhere? I can't see one in the stickies
ive observed if i say i have 2.4k exp i get 10+ players with 2.1k xp ready to join me
if i say i got 2.1k, its quiet
I like mmarkers YouTube stuff.
🤔
But his play style isn’t for everyone
also most of it is just around 2k mmr or something so it doesnt really give the best picture
I don’t care about xp personally. Especially cause a lot of season were really long and inflated.
i dont think xp means much
but it certainly matters
1.6k no exp you dont even know what the game is about
Why would you take a rdruid when you could just take another Hpala/Disc
Mobility 💀
Yeah sure. You lose out on a Cyclone which is whatever. I’ve had no problems getting into groups so far though. Maybe when I get past 2.4 we will see.
is dreambinder much better than boat for playing balance in arenas? what about rbgs? is it only better at high rating since you cant cheese an instant inc+convoke kill as easily?
I think dreambinder is better for kyrian since you want to fit more surges in a short cooldown
Convoke loses alot of value without boat.
why kind of auras make me do a 4k crit starsureg in RBGs
boomies what you running for 3rd conduit?
Id do endurance
Yeah or skin cd
what are the rules of being out of combat
Did they test Niya Tools: Burrs on beta?
seems pretty stronk for boomie coming up in 2 weeks if PPM is what wowhead says
Since if you healer ccd for 5+ sec itll just drop off
Hey yall, whats the highest single hit you've done this season in pvp? Wanna see how high these mongo moons have gone up to
Didn’t someone here do a 100k plus convoke? I’m sure there was a fat single hit in there.
1900+ its 26k
My convoke can always do more than 100k overall (if full channeled). but the highest i've done in One Single Hit. Is 29800 with a full moon
27k full moons
with skyfury i think
45k with berserking on a FC lolol
Rbg is funny when a flag carrier runs alone on your way, you pop outta stealth and just blow him to oblivion
yeah i miss the good old days of trading cooldowns like robots and slowly bleeding a single person in 10 minutes
lol
or when you do a mistake and the whole advantage resets to 0 everyone full hp go go go
i dont
its like playing 10 matches in 1
i grinded some 3s yesterday to get back my 2100. Rsham, me, dh. It felt like our ONLY win condition was me one shotting someone with a convoke set up
Convoke doesnt kill? 2 choices: 1-Peel for 3 min. 2-Leave and requeue
dont play with those people lol
its stressful to have to get such a fragile ability to full cast as ur only wincon
i play with friends, i hate lfg. And they are my only friend with IQ above room temperature
On a side note, being a caster against ele-rsham+ any melee is so cancer
casters in general
triple cut, double grounding, wtv the melee has to add on top
being nature locked for 4+ seconds in today's meta
Combine against caster cleave is lol
might aswell be a full sheep on you
80% of the games i won yesterday was me oneshotting someone with convoke during chaos nova
Or w/e it’s called
Yea I run disc moonkin warr, similar games. Things really turned around when I just pve rotation. Clones when needed
It’s a lot of pressure with that mastery buff from Niya
how tf u play with warr as boomie lmao
i tried multiple times, it feels like he does nothing
like enemy team trains me and warr desperately attempts to do something about it
Games we lose are when priest goes oom, or makes a mistake (he’s a new healer) loves dropping barriwr for no reason
Spear of bastion + beam is actually pretty nasty
Is balance any good in 2v2? Wanted to farm 1400 rating in something before I start RBGs so I can go in with a decent ilvl and push my MMR up from the start. Idk if 2s or 3s will be better for me
OK fair. 3s is just a little more awkward as it takes a while longer to get groups but thats fine
I'm fae yeah for PvE pew pew
Nf moonkin disc is fun.
Going with a pally is what I prefer
I'll try 3s first. See if I can find groups. The fact that moonkin pairs with popular specs like arms will help I guess
better chance of getting a convoke off
Honestly strongest comp ive been in is pally/affliction/boomy
im assuming people are just going the extra potency conduit this week but when we get renown 30 what is simming the best right now
whats a good comp for 3s ? as feral and dpriest?
I don’t know any paladins
That sounds like a pve question
oh my bad thought I was in pve
Just disrupt for the affli then blast when I’ve got some AP saved up I guess?
Up to 2k rating you can pretty much convoke incarn out of stealth to one shot the healer (if its not a shaman) while your ither dps aoe cc the rest. (chaos nova, fear, etc)
If your friend cc the most bothersome dps on the other team, you can almost freely convoke
here i am hardstuck on 1500 as feral
whilst a friend who has never played a boomy in his life is 1650 alrdy
It is. But feral has a much better way to actually pull it off and more consistent pressure
idk
i feel like every other melle dps is stronger than a feral
monks,awarrs,rets,dh-s
they all put so much more fkin dmg on healers
Feral is a victim of burst meta imo. Too many specs can global you in a stun
The offensive pressure is there though
Ferals a pretty scary
maybe im not playing it right then to be hardstuck
cuz everytime i face another dps/heal combo if its melle
they shit on my healer and drain his mana like crazy
and there i am full bleeds
waiting for 50 energy ferocious bite...
well, any class / spec can go to 1600
its not about the class or the meta if you cant go past 1600
whats the best combo for feral ? in 3s
Feral just wears healers down and spot heals
Hunter / feral / disc
Lock / feral / pally
Mage / feral / x
Sp / feral prob good too
thx
and ive asked it before but ill do again
when do you guys prefer HoTW vs Bash
isnt that bash much more preferable as an extra cc?
and do you guys prefer soul of the forest to incarnation? or
you pick incarnation only vs rogues
Kyrian boomy going 3 endurance Or double endurance finesse this week?
Ursine vigor + innate resolve + free regen condy seems like an insane 3 stack for endurance
Tireless pursuit or w/e the cat form speed one after shapeshifting seems good for kiting but vigor seems better
Whats the best dps with rdrood ? Is dh still good ?
Dh is booty
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Soul especially if you run symmetry. Makes the burst more smooth. Also bash is too good to pass on. Bash one, maim the other is excellent win conditions especially for convoke
Savage roar if you’re a real G
has anyone run Natural Order leggo with Feral?
I know it's a big damage loss, compared to Symmetry, but for BGs and World PVP could be pretty tanky yah?
Afflic / Spriest
mother tree legendary for rbgs?
i think so, probs some other lege because i said so 😄
LOL i felt that
Do you all open your weekly chest as your main spec?
i have like all the best legendaries in my bags and they’re jusy sitting here
i got it from lfr, its not too bad this time
Is it 100% drop?
it is
Noice
u lucky fuck
what should i buy first with conquest, boomy here
your biggest upgrades
literally just got 60
probably save for weapon and fill the rest with honor gear / gear from campaign
It goes in order of price yeah!?
The slots that have the biggest budget are more expensive
So you can either buy them first as they'll be biggest upgrades
Or you can wait for vault to give you
Weapon > chest > etc
i would buy ring and neck
7 weeks still no wep
woulda had enough for 3 pieces this week if I finally got lucky with vault
Game knows who's boss brah
Savage roar if you’re a real G

Whats the best covenant on feral for pvp right now?
kyrian
should I know some tricks for flag defending as boomie to gain rating in rbg
ask ur lead why they would put a boomie on defending
Stand 40 yards away
Ah I forget even better
I mean yeah do we need to def as boomie ever if the group is playing right
Only flag boomies defend is lumber mill.
Can’t use gliders in rbgs
slowfall gliders w/e
Any Feral run any different lego than Fearful Symmetry?
what can I do when a monk trains me all day long
i feel that when I ever leave bear im insta dead
incap roar into clone
root the clones/tiger
then clone
mass root his zoo is nice ya
when he summon an upgraded version of feral druid + his clone, you should mass root it
When to talent Incarn vs Soul in Arena?
if I'm running 2s Double DPS, should I just incarn with symmetry and blow things up?
never play sotf in arena lol
ah ok
anyone realised that tournament favour toy works in rated
and baits convoke kicks
funny af
really
ye its a channel toy
Night fae boomy - Niya or Dreamweaver for RBG?
people kick it
so uhm
is convoke supposed to just randomly go on a bubbled pala instead of the other guy?
he wasnt ccd and the pala bubbled my cc
They've stopped it hitting cycloned targets haven't they
what leggo are yall using for resto?
why would it
verdant
It never ignored bubble
hey, is there a consensus on BoAT vs timeworn dreambinder? kinda wanna make a 235 this week and seems like top druids are half and half, but maybe they committed too early. night fae btw, tho i'd prob go kyrian if convoke is nerfed
know the questions prob been asked million times
but not finding resounding answer
The consensus is that Dreambinder is good and consistent, BOAT is good and more volatile
I just tested cyclone+convoke today on a npc mob and it just bursted all into cyclone
not sure if it was because it was the only target tho
Has any resto druids tried Photosynthesis + The Dark Titans's Lesson vs Purge Teams? Was it worth?
probably because it was the only tOrget
Just a thought but that lego (with photo) gets it’s powered from having multiple hots up on your target. You lose a lot of value if they are getting purged off IMO.
Verdant and flourish keep a non dispellable cenarion ward up for a while.
is there any reasonable resource for guardian rbg out? googled a bit but no luck
So the glad staff doesn’t swap from +Int to +Agil if i change spec from boomy to feral?
nope
Yet all of the primary armor pieces do, wonder why?
you need separate weps
Thats pretty annoying
well it used to be a lot worse
Yeah I remember having full sets of gear for each
exactly
But i thought that was the point they switch this to
im fine with weps only
Seems odd to do it for some things and not others
we take what we can i guess
Like, just do it for all blizzard

Best covenant for rDruid pvp?
necro
What if I switch between balance and resto often?
is there an addon to mark the area names on the mining azerite bg map
its called map
there are 4-5 names on default map but nodes spawn to be 9
Should I use 197 pvp gear over 226 pve pieces if they dont have vers
probably not
Yeaaaah big no
Okay guys, how do i kill a holy pala as boomie?
Seems like they have an answer for every cooldown 😦
had like a 10min 2v2 vs pala as double dps, think i got a full convoke 3 times off and no one died :/
thanks
Just got my balance alt to 60, at this point should I buy the wep or just prey to the vault and rng catch up
Find it weird mages and others can have fairly low CD on interuppt but we druids (moonkin) have 1 minute beam, does require so much power from the nature to recharge it!
;D
Persisting aoe silence
Thats why
Mage is simply an interrupt and priest is simply a one person silence.
The aoe factor(along with being able to trap people in it i assume) is what makes beam cd so long
any boomies been trying dreambinder in 3s?
Can you really get 5 surges off in a row with it?
y
with fury of elune ye
Oh ok. So you pop foe and it'll give enough ap to hit 5?
2 dots on target and full astral
I see, thanks. I think I'll be crafting it this week. Just have to get the memory
one of the easier memories to get
for honor, once you can't get/don't need any upgrades, have all the conduits and legendaries, there's no point in hoarding it, right?
Yeah so weird these different classes keep having different spells I dont get it
I spent like 4k on stuff to DE

There's a cap to how much honor you can hold at once
So yeah at some point you just idk buy items to DE and sell purple mat
Right so if you are fully upgraded (mind you, conquest gear takes honor to upgrade but maybe you dont do rated pvp)
It doesnt do anything else
I'm just saying there is a maximum lol
oh, I can't read
disregard
I'm gonna shame myself now
Trying to decide between saving 1 more week for a 220 weapon or replacing my 226 pieces that dont have vers with 220 pieces with vers
id save one more week
ilvl is huge nowadays IMO
the gaps in raid tiers is only 6-7, whereas in bfa it was 15
yeah i think ill wait for weapon
I think I'm going to buy my 226 trinket this week.
I have 1100, so I'll have 1650. Only need shoulders, pants, belt, one ring, and trinkets.
Debating if the extra int on use is better than going for one of the other pieces
Bruh
I find this feral that's got some rating with cat eye curio equipped yeah!?
So I whisper him to ask if he's played with different legendaries and felt cat eye be any impactful
When I got to 2100 I needed like 28k honor to upgrade everything. Gross
And he starts lecturing me on how there are no wrong choices and you can play whatever legendary you like

No but I'm asking him a question and he's not answering my question
Can't reveal his secret
I just wanted to know if he's played other legendaries cuz his cat eye was upgraded all the way ykno?
Maybe he just made cat eye and liked it and didn't really try any other one to compare
Yeah I have 235 boat, 190 oath, 190 db, 190 pap
So he could have 3 others he is hiding
Like oath
Yeah my now is 225
theres even a feral at 29 playing apex
yay, staff from vault for when I boomie pvp. 20 ilvl upgrade there
legit doesnt matter
I don't care if it matters or not bro
I'm just trying to talk and see what people think
Are you fucken

Quebecois bro
i dont understand whats happening right now
Ofc all of pvp is feelycrafting bro
We ignore that part of what you said
You don't wanna be the new Cope do you?

What an awful community. BULLIES REEEE
savage roar in pvp? what
He talks every other day in here @small storm
does he just tunnel like a literal insane person?
I wonder how much my damage in pvp will go up cause I have a 220 staff instead of 200 haha
Nah ofc not
Sotf is better for big constant pressure tunnel all game
Savage Roar is giving up overall for bigger goes I imagine
It's 59 int so not like a melee dps weapon upgrade
Val I know for a fact you were chilling in fight club. These guys don’t know what bullies are. Lol
About 5% or so probably
Pretty big upgrade
yea but u gotta set it up
For one slot
200 to 220 weapon is the bigget upgrade ur gonna get in all of slands prob lol
@stone nest they wouldn't make me a shill in fight club because they were scared
Lol
nah, now I'm gonna grind all the way to 2400 in rbgs to make it 233. 😄
well 220 to 233 isn't as much as 200 to 220

wait r u feral or boomy? it doesn't really matter as much for casters
that's not how ilvl works, the stat increases go up as ilvl goes up. I pvp as chicken, pve as bear.
i would bet money a 200-220 upgrade is a higher % upgrade than 220-233
weps are just as big for casters as mdps.
is that true? cuz I don't think it is lol
look at the int difference.
200 to 220 is 59 int for me
yeah weapon damage matters so muhc more than 59 int
go hit a dummy for a bit and come back.
i dont need to cuz I can use my brain to know what ur saying is dumb lol but its ok don't matter
🙂
weps are just as big for casters as mdps.
@chrome panther actual troll
All that auto attk dmg my boomy does 🙃
Staff for boomies great for the thrashes you do when you are too close during convoke. 200iq
you guys normally use celestial in pvp right for weapon enchant?
wow dropping incarn and fury of elune smhw is pog
as nf
you bait them into thinking you are kyrian lmao
Fury of Elune is more of a dreambinder vs boat thing though
For you pvp restos, do you have party 123 binds for each heal spell, or just target party123 binds and then cast spells normally?
I'm trying to work out how to fit all the binds on
I was thinking about using sinful revelation for pvp lol
probably 123 targets
resto already have insane amount of spells
atleast thats what i would do
Yeah i was struggling for pve buttons already...
One button for each party member
Target. Only ret zugpallies can have 3 of every spell on their bar
Imagine having 7 spells
kekw
Any1 know how to fix this lua error with fpb https://gyazo.com/f540bf9d001bdc9996dfb1945da618d1
holy shit you have focus bubble? 😛
any time i put a debuff on some1 i get this for its duration
Not my ui, a streamers aha
Sooo second potency conduit for PvP Night fae boomie?
conflux/fury
I simmed, so 200 to 220 weapon is a 4.57% dps increase on patchwerk. In comparison, 220 to 226 weapon on my bear was 3.5% dps increase. Didn't sim feral to see.
not really big news that weapon upgrades are bigger for melee
Had someone in here saying they were.
i dont feel liek simming anything right now, but as feral 220 to 226 weapon was a 1.7% upgrade i remember simming that before
also ele gets phat crits with skyfury
Kill skyfury
in a 1v1 you trinket lasso 🤷
thats not true, just play warlock/hunter and use ur pet
simple
pretend this isn't a druid chat
true
Taunt with FoN
whats up with blizz giving every class 1 spell that does 50%+ hp
is it the new way to balance things
i mean 2 crits off lasso is pretty lucky.
We have one that does 100%
if convoke stunned the enemy like lasso lol
Or well 300% if ppl stack on moon
Why is choosing between Boat and timeworn so hard for me! - what what you guys suggest is if mainly gonna 3's with an ele/mage (im leaning more towards timeworn?)
timeworn.
Bind your dreams baby
I like Boat in rbgs
yeah that seems like it would be very naughty 😄
i use primordial arcane pulsar in RBGs cuz i made it early for m+ and i think its borderline trolling, but whatever
Ive just got enough to make one now thats all
wanted to be a nerd and get some advice xD
Cause making my ow decisions is hard, ask my 3rd wife!
cuz boat translates better to that
yeah im mostly pvping
And Night Fae
I appreciate the advice though, bet that gets asked literally every hour or so o/
idk boomie/ele with dreambinder lets you have an absurdly strong go every minute
aha makes sense!
It was day 1 within the first 2 I believe . Could be wrong
I'll check, cheers
which of Niya's Tool's on the last tier of the soulbind tree are best for feral and balance?
uhh
burrs?
assuming its not nerfed in pvp someway
for balance anyways, middle mite be good for feral, but that extra endurance conduit is too juicy
all 3 have pros and cons for balance atleast
tho niya mastery feels too gud to pass up
Dont kill the dream man, you gotta believe! xD
@thorny venture do you play the serrated bonesaw in keys ? How much % dmg does it usually do overall?
For balance what stats are y’all going for? I know stack vers but haste and mastery split or going heavy for one
im so bummed out man
this is like the 10th time ive gotten less than 1 win away from 2100 in 2s
but cant close the deal
That's a question for guardian chat, but serrated spaulders is like another trinket 4% of my overall roughly
Oo nice was just wondering since I knew u were necro also
u can do it buddy I believe in u
already done for now and down to 2030 again
3rd week failed to get 2100
or 4th i forget
time to rbg

buy a 5th of vodka and grind it out, once your slammed its pretty fun
need to decide between cloak/bracers, belt, or two rings for conquest this week
Feral buffs when 
resto buffs when
Man it is depressing to know I'd be like 300 rating higher if I swapped to mage right now
its fucking awful theres been no balance patches since the rogue nerf
i mean awc just showed how bad it is
Holy pala and fire mage
Are so disgusting
And Holy Pala is 10x more disgusting in 2s
It's not even funny anymore :(
i rerolled holy from resto last week and even with garbo gear im healing better than on my rdruid
the difference is insane and im playing like a fish
Yeah I'm wondering if I should reroll into a mage, grind like 190 gear
And if that'd be better than my 220 feral
Probably yeah
i just wanna be 2.1k again lmfao
I'm so happy I have modest goals of KSM, AotC and an 1800 set
when i started playing resto like 6 months before legion ended i got 1.8k in s1 bfa ez
That's one reason to play a druid i guess
I think resto is okayish in 2s
It's just that
Holy is so unbelievably good in 2s
holy is just got lmfao
Like if a spec with 4 damage immunities is op in 3s
How do you ever
Get through them in 2s
You don't
It's impossible
wasn't it similar last season? I actually got 1800 as a hpaladin in 2s in 8.3 and I suck at pvp.
its not even just that tho
yeah hpalla and mw were busted last season
rdruid wasnt great but you could defo still push with it
managed 2.1k in 3s and 2.2k in 2s myself
now it just feels like hpalla or die lmfao
Disc priest players must literally be on suicide watch
Rdruid at least had a niche
Hpal is just disc+
Lol
Yep
As for resto druid
I'd definitely play it feral affi night fae
With like a mage or spriest
feral convoke feels like it does nothing compared to boomie convoke lmfao
Otherwise you're just a worse shaman
when ive died to ferals its almost always been outside of convoke
Feral convoke is okayish but yeah nowhere near balance it's sadge
on the other hand
Earlier in the season feral convoke was great
Could easily 100-0 anyone
But hp and versa
was playing with an affli lock who reflected the whole convoke back into the boomie
Outscaled damage
was this for my Oath resto legendary question?
Nope sorry I have no clue
also master shapeshifter is bugged and still hasnt been fixed
good bugged bad bugged
What do you say for rbg leggo?
mend
MOMT is fine for rbgs
Can also just use verdant ya
mend? you mean verdant infusion for swiftmend?
i feel like thats risky no?
do you try to do the CW triple uptime with it?
Wouldn't make an insane difference either way
yeah its not gonna be a big enough difference to matter that much
what about talents?
Extended cw is preferred tho ya
in temple its really nice for healing orbs with big cw
germ or photosynthesis?
germ or flourish imo
flourish is really good in team fights
mend -> sotf wg -> flourish will keep everyone topped for a while
plus if you get a MoMT proc in there its gg
hunter/rdruid felt so awful against all the hpala/warriors in 2s
yea mother tree can be super nice too
what about inner peace vs spring blossoms
isnt hunter/rdruid supposed to be like a good comp?
vs overgrowth?
Would go either photo or flourish yea, germ wont see much value in a group that big, could play efflo if ppl are stacked well, overgrowth if not
inner peace is fine if you get a good position
tranq can go through walls so on some maps you can use that to your advantage
I don't think I've played a single hunter rdruid
Cyclone + trap is always good tho
But I feel like you'd need to be feral affi for sure in that comp
theres just no kill potential compared to like disci/hunter
It's pretty decent still ya, need to have clean go's from hunter stun > trap > double clone off it, clone dps x3 on cds, rinse repeat.
feral affi oath convoke does like nothing
Meh it does like 40%
If you're playing a setup heavy comp like druid hunter
they just dont stop with the damage
I'd definitely run it
yeah ofc u run it but it still feels sad
Agreed
Hpal Warrior is not only absurdly strong it also wins by default vs pretty much every comp
So you have to go out of your way to find insanely good setups
To even have a chance
While they pve you
my warr friend is kyrian not venthyr tho sadly lol
The dmg u do is pretty minimal compared to just setting up your hunter well
yeah
10k condemns all game is pretty good in 2s
Feral convoke doesn't stop you from getting a good setup tho
Like sure maybe if you wanted to dr clone
You can still do that and decide on case by case basis
Should be getting re's and have double rake + maim for covering both during trap. @junior plover yea that's what I'm saying
If you have them in full trap/clone you can just do extra damage
survi would prolly also be a lot better in that comp than mm
I feel like any spec I play as a druid I get crushed by rogue/mages too
yeah feral has done the best yet
rogue mage on resto i get fucked
rogue mage on hpalla i dont think ive lost in 2s lmfao
prolly feral/hpala could be easiest
i mean like disc and rshammy are fine too
disc can give some nice pressure in 2s
and 3s even
Is hpal actually struggling vs melee compared to disc?
Disc has nice pressure that's true
But so does pala
Rdruid/feral is super good atm!
^ this is a fun comp to try too tbh
Double convoke kinda slaps
And it sounds like DR nightmare
But you have the same dr as with disc
So not really
You just have to kite a lot
And generally u kill in berserk goes
But so much control, can recommend! 🙂
I'm really struggling to kill in Berserk goes as NF right now
But that's probably just me not setting myself up correctly
It's good but vs 38k life 25% vers it deals like 60% max :(
Through no defensives
At least in my experience
best soul bind for FC as bear ? thoughts?
Do you drop flag when you go pod?
id imagine so
It's probably still Dream for 3x endu
Well almost surely
I don't see a reason to go anything else
good point
feral prolly the most promising way to get 2.4 in 2s
wonder if rdruid/spriest does anywhere near that good as feral/hpal
might have to just dream about that rating anyway because all I see at 2300-2400 are r1s
how am I supposed to beat them to get to even elite
It’s 10x easier I promise you
finding the partners might be 10x harder
well I agree, been trying to find 3s for a while
well yeah obviously, every second team has glads in it even at 1800
Got gold? Got glad
At what score do you get 226 conduits from the conquest vendor?
2100
Get 2.4 in rbgs. That’s the easiest way as a Druid
what do u guys use to find ppl's ratings in rbgs? had a few bad experiences with low ilvl/cr players in my games
invite them inspect them and kick them if a website isnt working
yea ok, thank you. was going to try those addons. finding the website searching cumbersome just because of trying to find the player's realm
another FC question, best PVP talents? Im using malornes swift, toughness, and freedom
i kinda like the charge one too.
i like malornes, toughness and the one that gives 60 rage
what talents do u generally go as bear in pvp. just regular ones
im only 1800 btw, but i like regular defensive build with bash. then for pvp talents: FC (fast travel, reduce stuns, more rage/demo roar); guarding flag in AB/EOTS (reduce stuns, longer range skull bash, anything/possibly den mother if fighting for nodes in mining map)
whats the best 3v3 combo for a boomy?
Fire mage hpal?
what do you guys think of enh shammy?
im running BoaT for pvp and rn im at 26% vers but only 8% crit, my PVE set is 17% and im noticing a pretty obvious difference in the amount of times starsurge crits in the boat window
is it worth it sacrifice vers for crit to get more starsurge burst? if so how much?
is your vers set your highest ilvl gear?
enhance is probably the ONE dps i wouldn't want to play with
Someone needs to
and get warden turned off in gravity lapse
Hey all, for Guardian FC which is generally preferred at around 2k RBG? Sleeper or NOW?
It looks fantastic for running across the map. Is it also really useful for defending @ base? Also, does it break existing CC (e.g. make berserk usable in stuns)
kinda tough finding people pushing from 1800-2100. A bit of a deadspace haha
Thanks!
whats the strategy for boomy/rogue/healer in 3s. Whats the best way to set up kills?
and cc chains?
just make sure there is no locks on the other team
how can a gamer like me learn to be better in arena
I can't find the emote of the frog taking notes

I got to say love this gearing system for pvp
I just wish everything was like 100 conq cheaper
My current issue....
I will have 1125 at the end of the week but not sure what to get.
everything is such a weird number
like 700 is so odd for a 550 cap
My two 197 items were trinkets
Got badge from vault today and enuf conquest to buy the PvP trink
Got bless we full geared week 7
Is it too late in the expansion to rank up in RBGs? I have been stuck at 1400-1500 rating since the new year and cannot break into 1600. I keep floating at ~50% win rate no matter what groups I join. Even when we have voice and take time to get people with good vers. Has the PVP become to saturated for a PVE scrub to climb the ladder to 1800?
50% win rate should be climbing
just having vers isnt useful at all in rbgs. you need people that can play their classes and coordinate
@vestal citrus How much value should i be putting into my on use trinket you think?
Trying to figure out if its worth this week buying a 226 on use
Shoulders I guess
Ill link my armory, but the screenshot is above
156
50 on use int is alot
Yeah your right
I think im going to buy shoulders this week, hope for badge/boots from chest
How important is versatility in pvp for tanking?
flag carrying, etc.
People are suggesting I remove my 226 items to put on 207 items with vers which I just can't assume is right
Alright so 207 is better than 213 if it has vers
but like, 226 would be better than 213 even if the 213 has vers (generally)
Alright, I'll redo my gear and ask again once I have more specific examples
1555... i feel like there is some sort of vortex pulling me back to this rating. 1600 feels miles away, yet so close
whats a good balance druid leggo for pvp
dreambinder or boat if you have it for pve
anyone have problem socketing pvp rings?
was thinking circle for rot
what do you mean have problem socketting them?
does the socket not work on them?
yeah I click "yes" and nothing happens
you can add sockets to items
worked after I took it off? weird
What are good comps with Boomy/Windwalker?
you mean what healer adds to it or what?
the 3 healers that don't coincide classes w/ the classes u already have
hpal/disc > rsham
yeah, there are 3 good healer classes atm; Pally > Disc > Sham > ... > rDruid > ... > .... .... .... > MW
idk if i'd use that order just cuz sham is good for certain comps cuz they never go oom where disc is always oom
but disc does seem insane in the comps its good in
disc has dark arch
would say it works well with boomy/ww since u got double offhealer
disc can make that comp really hard to beat in the opener with WW cds, Incarn, darkarchangel and power infusion
games might not last to the 2nd incarn due to priest being oom before
yea no, i agree disc is good in that comp, i was referring to ur comment aqulia about disc being > rsham in general
well, it is
i agree with the sentiment
hpal/disc is tier above rsham
and rsham tier above rdruid
and mw?
they rn't evne worth mentioning
mw is worse healer than boomkin
i guess i stand corrected, but in my anecdotal experience priests fall over a lot easier
feelsbadman
MW just dies to everything, had not a single game this season where the MW survived the opener
hpal/disc > rsham > rdruid > hpriest/prot > MW
u forgot ret
its okay, MW will have the same expansion cycle they always have
^^they will make his bubble 30s cd and call it a day
suck ass early expansion > get overbuffed by blizzard cause ppl cry > instantly become the best healer in the game > get small nerf to bring into line > get fked for next xpac
hell yea the blizzard way
when do hpals get to suck for a bit? I'm dead tired of them being broken so long
they were weak a tier in wod, give them a break

they need their time in the spotlight
can the pvp items in weekly vault have tertiary stats in them?
socks? 
ye tertiaries don't work in arena though if its just from gear
at least it was like that in bfa don't think they changed it
they are poop stats anyway
interesting set names
got belt with socket and indestructible on my alt, so yeah
used to be RAWBEARFUCK but i thought that sounded a little too vulgar
lmao
rawbearfrick
some real furry shit
ya rawbearfr*ck looks good
RBG made fun of my 17% vers 😦 now going to go and item restore all of my versatility pieces
Tell them to suck it
for some reason low rated pugs value vers as some sort of golden ticket to rating
its weird
its weird, yeah
we made a pug on alts the other day and everyone signing up was putting their vers in their notes
its something most leaders on low rating ask of. My 3s rogue mate with 2.4exp and 2.1cr was applying to some to get some Honor and they gatekeeped him because he didnt have 25% versa
for 1.5 mmr rbgs
sounds about right
just versa bro
just switch out the gear once u get in group
i sit in bear form while in our pug groups on my alt because it has like 22k hp outside of it
and hope no one inspects

🧠
if i get to a certain raiting : 1800, then i drop to 1700 lets say am i still eligible to upgrades to ilvl 1800 gives access to, or i lose such privilege
you lose the ability to upgrade
thanks
Guys, can PvP gear from weekly vault be later upgraded?
it can!!!
anyone with boat and TD which do you like better for pvp?
hmm i'm likely to play more 3s and rbgs i think
that seems reasonable 🙂 thanks
2 235s jesus lol
what covenant are you glyph?
ya i'm fae atm but kyrian with TD seems pretty sick
and fury of elune lines up well to get like 5 or 6 surges 
Whats the best legendary for a Night Fae boomkin?
boat if u wanna all in convoke
Yeah at least now in the start as this is just an alt, thanks 🙂 I'm guessing vers and mastery are the best stats to put on the legendary?
Alright thanks!
does fury of elune stop caps after first damage?
Yeah should
it does
full duration
yea was gonna say a shield maybe
lmao
ice barrier but idk
maybe like... pathing stuff
lul
why did he run so far though anyway XD
should probably have noticed he was still capping 
its a shame he was facing the wrong way XD
You can still upgrade
Not sure if u got trolled
ive heard thers like 30 rating grace or something.
havent dropped to lose an upgrade tho
you cannot
Im 1500 and can upgrade 1.6

is upgrade just highest rating of the week tho (that you got a win near) or do you have to be at it to upgrade?
Pretty sure i upgraded to 1.6 items when i lost a ton of rating
/cast [@focus] Mass entanglement
/cast [@focus] Solar Beam
Might be week
current rank has to be what u want to upgrade to
you dont fall off a rank instantly if you go under the rating, theres a buffer of like 30 rating
so if i win at 1850 and then drop to 1k rating i can't upgrade at the 1800+ ilvl?
nope u can't
ooo
highest win of week
oh sorry upgrade
that's how i thought it worked but i'm not sure lol
you dont have to win the week youre upgrading
Question, I'm a bit behind and want to get into pvp with boomy, when is the best timing to go for a convoke blast? I mainly play 2s sometimes 3s
if u have the rating u can upgrade
oo
upgrade = current rating, vault = highest in current week
ic thanks!
I shouldnt have tanked those games yday then :/
ye esterday was worst day for tanking rating :d
the good thing you can just get ur vault item bump rating back where it was, and just use honor ... so nothing bad really happened u just wasted a bit of honor
Get FEEARRRRRMED
I sweat the grind has become more harder, i was almost 1.7k last week
Now i cant get past 1.5
Too many palas
i was seeing a ton more monks recently than i have. the rerollers are egtting more geared
I mean, people at low rating might not be the best
But atleast they know how to press bubble
As a feral druid. How important is versa compared to other stats? If I have one neck at ilvl 213 with big mastery but no versa, is it worth it to go down 6 ilvls for one with a lot of versa? Is 20 agility worth more than 80 versa when I get haste crit instead?
Unsure on the exact answer to your question
But remember that versa gets 40% buff from trinkets
For damage and healing anyway. So it's not quite the stat vs stat comparison it appears
I just take the one with the highest ilvl tbh
Oh yeah that is true, so in a way it's a 40% increase in item strength on stats
for me main use of versa was also the survivability ... if u feel u're tanky enough try the higher one, if dieing fast is still a thing i would rollback


