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last jackal
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I went for those

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ty

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yeah, resin looks interesting.

chrome panther
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boomie + any dps / hpal works tbh

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hunter prob the worst i guess

tough osprey
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Put a wa on prowl?

tardy hare
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Do big dam

mystic wind
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literally just a WA for prowl is castable

vestal gyro
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Hey I had a question:
Which is the best resto druid legendary for PvP and which slot should I equip it in (Jewelry for more vers? or body pieces for stats?)

mystic wind
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best is Verdant Infusion (swift mend one), and the slot isnt that important

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whichever slot you dont have conquest piece yet

vestal gyro
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For RBGs specifically

stone nest
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Mother tree looks really good to me for rbgs.

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You typically make legos where the most stats come from

placid mirage
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Can't get any mastery gear from vault rip only crit

vestal gyro
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I cant figure out why the swiftmend one would be the best though? Could you explain its effectiveness?
@mystic wind

stone nest
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That’s for arenas

mystic wind
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yeah sorry thought you meant arenas!

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no idea about rbg

stone nest
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You don’t eat a hot with swiftmend one and it extends them by 8 secs which instead of reapply hots in that 8 seconds, you can do regrowths, damage, or cc.

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Also extending a cenarion ward is big

mystic wind
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extending cen ward + adaptive swarm

stone nest
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Adaptive swarm means I can’t 1 shot people as resto though...

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Mother tree in rbgs save you so much time and mana. It seems like a no brainer to me.

tough osprey
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It would be the one circled around wild growth. Your play style changes in rbgs compared to arenas

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Your stats (might be wrong on this) would probably be vers=haste>mastery>crit for rbgs. Haven’t done resto rbgs since legion

primal bane
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how much cr do you lose witgh rbg

tough osprey
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Depends on mmr

compact acorn
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Are haste breakpoints still a thing or does it scale linearly?

tough osprey
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Someone correct me on stat weights if I’m wrong... might be haste>vers=mast>crit

stone nest
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the first one is right

sly marsh
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@compact acorn i believe you can get partial ticks on DoTs and HoTs now, if thats what you mean

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so you dont need to hit a certain point of haste to "gain" another tick

compact acorn
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Well haste flat out increases our heals

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I was just wondering if there is a point where you hit diminishing returns

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And maybe want to go into Mastery

sly marsh
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there are DRs on all secondary stats now

mystic wind
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its 30% for haste

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so very hard to hit in pvp gear

tough osprey
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30% all stats hard cap until dr . Unsure of any soft caps.

slender citrus
# compact acorn I was just wondering if there is a point where you hit diminishing returns
tough osprey
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Think it’s linear for pvp until that point.

mystic wind
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for resto for both rbg and arena you want haste+vers in all slots

tough osprey
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It’s funny though because I think it’s still a little unknown for pvp on that

mystic wind
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mastery is also decent for arena, less useful in bgs since youre spread healing more

compact acorn
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Yea damage is so high that I think it's prob better to dip into mastery before 30% haste

woeful burrow
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what legendary for resto in RBG?

tough osprey
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Scroll up or google bro

stone nest
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I wish we had pins where it was like legendaries based on spec and content
resto:
2s
3s:
Rbgs:
Boomie:
2s
3s:
Rbgs etc

chrome panther
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rdruid : 2, verdant, 3s, verdant, rbg, play balance

vestal gyro
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What do you guys think about Circle of Life and Death (your Your damage over time effects deal their damage in 25% less time, and your healing over time effects in 15% less time?)

chrome panther
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for what

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its ok in lsd2

vestal gyro
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for RBGs

chrome panther
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no

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dont

stone nest
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It sounds like an oom machine

chrome panther
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get this notion of playing rdruid in rbgs out of ur head

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just play balance

stone nest
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People like to play content differently

quick root
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Hey yall - is there a resto pvp guide anywhere? I can't see one in the stickies

primal bane
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ive observed if i say i have 2.4k exp i get 10+ players with 2.1k xp ready to join me

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if i say i got 2.1k, its quiet

stone nest
primal bane
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🤔

stone nest
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But his play style isn’t for everyone

vast vapor
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also most of it is just around 2k mmr or something so it doesnt really give the best picture

stone nest
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I don’t care about xp personally. Especially cause a lot of season were really long and inflated.

primal bane
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i dont think xp means much

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but it certainly matters

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1.6k no exp you dont even know what the game is about

winter spindle
tough osprey
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Mobility

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With fc’s

winter spindle
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Mobility 💀

stone nest
past relic
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is dreambinder much better than boat for playing balance in arenas? what about rbgs? is it only better at high rating since you cant cheese an instant inc+convoke kill as easily?

dreamy lintel
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I think dreambinder is better for kyrian since you want to fit more surges in a short cooldown

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Convoke loses alot of value without boat.

primal bane
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why kind of auras make me do a 4k crit starsureg in RBGs

calm hollow
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boomies what you running for 3rd conduit?

kindred galleon
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Id do endurance

calm hollow
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that's what i was thinking

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the regrowth/ frenzied one

kindred galleon
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Yeah or skin cd

calm hollow
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ursine vigor

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seems strong

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18% health/armor increase for 4 seconds in bear form

kindred galleon
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Beats condemn

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But 4 sec is abit short?

primal bane
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what are the rules of being out of combat

chrome panther
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Did they test Niya Tools: Burrs on beta?

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seems pretty stronk for boomie coming up in 2 weeks if PPM is what wowhead says

kindred galleon
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Since if you healer ccd for 5+ sec itll just drop off

blissful belfry
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Hey yall, whats the highest single hit you've done this season in pvp? Wanna see how high these mongo moons have gone up to

haughty compass
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Just hit a guy in a skirmish for like 31k

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Might have been a spread though

stone nest
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Didn’t someone here do a 100k plus convoke? I’m sure there was a fat single hit in there.

kindred galleon
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1900+ its 26k

blissful belfry
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My convoke can always do more than 100k overall (if full channeled). but the highest i've done in One Single Hit. Is 29800 with a full moon

primal bane
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27k full moons

blissful belfry
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with skyfury i think

crude minnow
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45k with berserking on a FC lolol

slender rampart
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watching people go from 100% to dead is always fun

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I both hate and enjoy it

blissful belfry
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Rbg is funny when a flag carrier runs alone on your way, you pop outta stealth and just blow him to oblivion

primal bane
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yeah i miss the good old days of trading cooldowns like robots and slowly bleeding a single person in 10 minutes

blissful belfry
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lol

primal bane
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or when you do a mistake and the whole advantage resets to 0 everyone full hp go go go

blissful belfry
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i dont

primal bane
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its like playing 10 matches in 1

blissful belfry
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i grinded some 3s yesterday to get back my 2100. Rsham, me, dh. It felt like our ONLY win condition was me one shotting someone with a convoke set up

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Convoke doesnt kill? 2 choices: 1-Peel for 3 min. 2-Leave and requeue

primal bane
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dont play with those people lol

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its stressful to have to get such a fragile ability to full cast as ur only wincon

blissful belfry
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i play with friends, i hate lfg. And they are my only friend with IQ above room temperature

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On a side note, being a caster against ele-rsham+ any melee is so cancer

primal bane
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casters in general

blissful belfry
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triple cut, double grounding, wtv the melee has to add on top

primal bane
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being nature locked for 4+ seconds in today's meta

haughty compass
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Combine against caster cleave is lol

primal bane
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might aswell be a full sheep on you

haughty compass
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I find we start winning more when I just pve

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The moon and stars talent is nice

blissful belfry
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80% of the games i won yesterday was me oneshotting someone with convoke during chaos nova

haughty compass
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Or w/e it’s called

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Yea I run disc moonkin warr, similar games. Things really turned around when I just pve rotation. Clones when needed

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It’s a lot of pressure with that mastery buff from Niya

primal bane
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how tf u play with warr as boomie lmao

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i tried multiple times, it feels like he does nothing

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like enemy team trains me and warr desperately attempts to do something about it

haughty compass
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Games we lose are when priest goes oom, or makes a mistake (he’s a new healer) loves dropping barriwr for no reason

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Spear of bastion + beam is actually pretty nasty

obtuse marsh
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Is balance any good in 2v2? Wanted to farm 1400 rating in something before I start RBGs so I can go in with a decent ilvl and push my MMR up from the start. Idk if 2s or 3s will be better for me

wary anchor
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feels better in 3's than 2's

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if you went NF than 2's can be a bit of fun

obtuse marsh
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OK fair. 3s is just a little more awkward as it takes a while longer to get groups but thats fine

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I'm fae yeah for PvE pew pew

haughty compass
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Nf moonkin disc is fun.

wary anchor
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Going with a pally is what I prefer

obtuse marsh
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I'll try 3s first. See if I can find groups. The fact that moonkin pairs with popular specs like arms will help I guess

wary anchor
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better chance of getting a convoke off

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Honestly strongest comp ive been in is pally/affliction/boomy

analog knoll
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im assuming people are just going the extra potency conduit this week but when we get renown 30 what is simming the best right now

patent idol
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whats a good comp for 3s ? as feral and dpriest?

haughty compass
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I don’t know any paladins

stone nest
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That sounds like a pve question

analog knoll
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oh my bad thought I was in pve

obtuse marsh
patent idol
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what annoys me is that boomys convoke

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feels 101340 stronger than a feral one

blissful belfry
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Up to 2k rating you can pretty much convoke incarn out of stealth to one shot the healer (if its not a shaman) while your ither dps aoe cc the rest. (chaos nova, fear, etc)

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If your friend cc the most bothersome dps on the other team, you can almost freely convoke

patent idol
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here i am hardstuck on 1500 as feral

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whilst a friend who has never played a boomy in his life is 1650 alrdy

obtuse marsh
patent idol
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idk

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i feel like every other melle dps is stronger than a feral

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monks,awarrs,rets,dh-s

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they all put so much more fkin dmg on healers

stone nest
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Get trinket full maim stun convoke

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Boom dead

obtuse marsh
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Feral is a victim of burst meta imo. Too many specs can global you in a stun

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The offensive pressure is there though

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Ferals a pretty scary

patent idol
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maybe im not playing it right then to be hardstuck

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cuz everytime i face another dps/heal combo if its melle

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they shit on my healer and drain his mana like crazy

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and there i am full bleeds

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waiting for 50 energy ferocious bite...

blissful belfry
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well, any class / spec can go to 1600

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its not about the class or the meta if you cant go past 1600

patent idol
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whats the best combo for feral ? in 3s

haughty compass
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Feral just wears healers down and spot heals

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Hunter / feral / disc
Lock / feral / pally
Mage / feral / x

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Sp / feral prob good too

patent idol
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thx

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and ive asked it before but ill do again

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when do you guys prefer HoTW vs Bash

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isnt that bash much more preferable as an extra cc?

haughty compass
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Bash in 3s, especially with hunter. Set up traps

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Or finish someone off

patent idol
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and do you guys prefer soul of the forest to incarnation? or

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you pick incarnation only vs rogues

hoary ledge
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Kyrian boomy going 3 endurance Or double endurance finesse this week?

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Ursine vigor + innate resolve + free regen condy seems like an insane 3 stack for endurance

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Tireless pursuit or w/e the cat form speed one after shapeshifting seems good for kiting but vigor seems better

fervent imp
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Whats the best dps with rdrood ? Is dh still good ?

stone nest
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Dh is booty

karmic kelp
haughty compass
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Savage roar if you’re a real G

vagrant coral
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has anyone run Natural Order leggo with Feral?

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I know it's a big damage loss, compared to Symmetry, but for BGs and World PVP could be pretty tanky yah?

last jackal
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Guys, what would you guys pick for Moonkin & disc priest in 3s?

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Rogue?

vagrant coral
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Afflic / Spriest

devout moss
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mother tree legendary for rbgs?

last jackal
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i think so, probs some other lege because i said so 😄

devout moss
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LOL i felt that

mighty yoke
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Do you all open your weekly chest as your main spec?

stone nest
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Mother tree is the move

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I just have to do the raid to get it now...

devout moss
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i have like all the best legendaries in my bags and they’re jusy sitting here

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i got it from lfr, its not too bad this time

stone nest
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Is it 100% drop?

devout moss
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it might be

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i did the 3rd wing an hour ago and got legendary drops every boss

devout frost
clear pulsar
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Coincidence?

stone nest
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Noice

chrome panther
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u lucky fuck

clear pulsar
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Yes ofc

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Very lucky

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Uhhh 7 weeks?

patent idol
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im still using the 197

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...

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fkin annoying af

quiet crater
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what should i buy first with conquest, boomy here

bitter harness
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your biggest upgrades

quiet crater
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literally just got 60

bitter harness
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probably save for weapon and fill the rest with honor gear / gear from campaign

clear pulsar
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It goes in order of price yeah!?

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The slots that have the biggest budget are more expensive

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So you can either buy them first as they'll be biggest upgrades

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Or you can wait for vault to give you

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Weapon > chest > etc

daring sparrow
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i would buy ring and neck

clear pulsar
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Yeah maybe not #1 for me but like

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Weapon > chest helm pants > rings > neck

quiet crater
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tyvm

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gonna buy weapon first

chrome panther
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7 weeks still no wep

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woulda had enough for 3 pieces this week if I finally got lucky with vault

clear pulsar
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Game knows who's boss brah

chrome panther
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dont tilt me more

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pls

haughty compass
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Savage roar if you’re a real G

clear pulsar
hallow perch
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Whats the best covenant on feral for pvp right now?

devout frost
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kyrian

vast vapor
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should I know some tricks for flag defending as boomie to gain rating in rbg

devout frost
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ask ur lead why they would put a boomie on defending

stone nest
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Stand 40 yards away

devout frost
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😉

stone nest
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Ah I forget even better

vast vapor
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I mean yeah do we need to def as boomie ever if the group is playing right

stone nest
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Only flag boomies defend is lumber mill.

devout frost
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wee

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defend LM and hope enemy forgot their gliders

stone nest
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Can’t use gliders in rbgs

devout frost
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slowfall gliders w/e

misty horizon
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Any Feral run any different lego than Fearful Symmetry?

jagged vine
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what can I do when a monk trains me all day long

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i feel that when I ever leave bear im insta dead

blissful belfry
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incap roar into clone

devout frost
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then clone

blissful belfry
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mass root his zoo is nice ya

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when he summon an upgraded version of feral druid + his clone, you should mass root it

vagrant coral
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When to talent Incarn vs Soul in Arena?

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if I'm running 2s Double DPS, should I just incarn with symmetry and blow things up?

devout frost
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never play sotf in arena lol

vagrant coral
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ah ok

devout frost
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or wait

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it was feral question

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nvm me then

tulip falcon
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anyone realised that tournament favour toy works in rated

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and baits convoke kicks

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funny af

devout frost
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really

tulip falcon
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ye its a channel toy

winter spindle
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Night fae boomy - Niya or Dreamweaver for RBG?

tulip falcon
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people kick it

vital parcel
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so uhm

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is convoke supposed to just randomly go on a bubbled pala instead of the other guy?

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he wasnt ccd and the pala bubbled my cc

stray sigil
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convoke not a targetted spell

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will cast on other people

vital parcel
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yeah but i feel like that never happens

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now it did

flat abyss
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They've stopped it hitting cycloned targets haven't they

vital parcel
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thought it ignored bubble

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guess not

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ye cyclone and root

restive pivot
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what leggo are yall using for resto?

devout frost
devout frost
placid mirage
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It never ignored bubble

vital parcel
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idk

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im stupid

dull badge
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hey, is there a consensus on BoAT vs timeworn dreambinder? kinda wanna make a 235 this week and seems like top druids are half and half, but maybe they committed too early. night fae btw, tho i'd prob go kyrian if convoke is nerfed

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know the questions prob been asked million times

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but not finding resounding answer

clear pulsar
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The consensus is that Dreambinder is good and consistent, BOAT is good and more volatile

vast vapor
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I just tested cyclone+convoke today on a npc mob and it just bursted all into cyclone

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not sure if it was because it was the only target tho

tough parrot
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Has any resto druids tried Photosynthesis + The Dark Titans's Lesson vs Purge Teams? Was it worth?

last jackal
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probably because it was the only tOrget

stone nest
tough parrot
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Thank you, Jay

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Maybe Circle of Life and Death?

stone nest
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Verdant and flourish keep a non dispellable cenarion ward up for a while.

weak sequoia
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is there any reasonable resource for guardian rbg out? googled a bit but no luck

tepid spoke
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if DTL was still 200%

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it would be strong for purge teams

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blame blizz

mighty yoke
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So the glad staff doesn’t swap from +Int to +Agil if i change spec from boomy to feral?

tulip falcon
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nope

mighty yoke
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Yet all of the primary armor pieces do, wonder why?

tulip falcon
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you need separate weps

mighty yoke
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Thats pretty annoying

tulip falcon
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well it used to be a lot worse

mighty yoke
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Yeah I remember having full sets of gear for each

tulip falcon
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exactly

mighty yoke
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But i thought that was the point they switch this to

tulip falcon
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im fine with weps only

mighty yoke
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Seems odd to do it for some things and not others

tulip falcon
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we take what we can i guess

mighty yoke
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Like, just do it for all blizzard

clear pulsar
paper solar
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Best covenant for rDruid pvp?

edgy shale
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necro

paper solar
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What if I switch between balance and resto often?

chrome panther
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nf.

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its ok for resto and works just fine for balance.

twilit siren
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is there an addon to mark the area names on the mining azerite bg map

vast vapor
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its called map

twilit siren
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there are 4-5 names on default map but nodes spawn to be 9

wheat laurel
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Should I use 197 pvp gear over 226 pve pieces if they dont have vers

bitter harness
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probably not

clear pulsar
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Yeaaaah big no

vital parcel
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Okay guys, how do i kill a holy pala as boomie?

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Seems like they have an answer for every cooldown 😦

bitter harness
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tell them a joke

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and then convoke

vital parcel
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had like a 10min 2v2 vs pala as double dps, think i got a full convoke 3 times off and no one died :/

twilit siren
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thanks

copper lintel
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Just got my balance alt to 60, at this point should I buy the wep or just prey to the vault and rng catch up

last jackal
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Find it weird mages and others can have fairly low CD on interuppt but we druids (moonkin) have 1 minute beam, does require so much power from the nature to recharge it!

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;D

hardy cargo
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Persisting aoe silence

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Thats why

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Mage is simply an interrupt and priest is simply a one person silence.

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The aoe factor(along with being able to trap people in it i assume) is what makes beam cd so long

snow bluff
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any boomies been trying dreambinder in 3s?

rancid lynx
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Can you really get 5 surges off in a row with it?

vital parcel
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y

cold escarp
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with fury of elune ye

rancid lynx
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Oh ok. So you pop foe and it'll give enough ap to hit 5?

cold escarp
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2 dots on target and full astral

supple path
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30-27-24-24= 105, you'll get 5 astral from dots

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FOE is another 40 astral

rancid lynx
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I see, thanks. I think I'll be crafting it this week. Just have to get the memory

cold escarp
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one of the easier memories to get

misty horizon
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for honor, once you can't get/don't need any upgrades, have all the conduits and legendaries, there's no point in hoarding it, right?

clear pulsar
misty horizon
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I spent like 4k on stuff to DE

clear pulsar
clear pulsar
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So yeah at some point you just idk buy items to DE and sell purple mat

clear pulsar
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Right so if you are fully upgraded (mind you, conquest gear takes honor to upgrade but maybe you dont do rated pvp)

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It doesnt do anything else

misty horizon
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I'm just saying there is a maximum lol

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oh, I can't read

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disregard

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I'm gonna shame myself now

wheat laurel
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Trying to decide between saving 1 more week for a 220 weapon or replacing my 226 pieces that dont have vers with 220 pieces with vers

vital parcel
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id save one more week

misty horizon
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ilvl is huge nowadays IMO

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the gaps in raid tiers is only 6-7, whereas in bfa it was 15

wheat laurel
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yeah i think ill wait for weapon

acoustic nebula
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I think I'm going to buy my 226 trinket this week.

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I have 1100, so I'll have 1650. Only need shoulders, pants, belt, one ring, and trinkets.

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Debating if the extra int on use is better than going for one of the other pieces

clear pulsar
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Bruh

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I find this feral that's got some rating with cat eye curio equipped yeah!?

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So I whisper him to ask if he's played with different legendaries and felt cat eye be any impactful

crude minnow
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When I got to 2100 I needed like 28k honor to upgrade everything. Gross

clear pulsar
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And he starts lecturing me on how there are no wrong choices and you can play whatever legendary you like

stray sigil
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i mean

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hes not wrong

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lol

clear pulsar
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No but I'm asking him a question and he's not answering my question

acoustic nebula
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Can't reveal his secret

clear pulsar
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I just wanted to know if he's played other legendaries cuz his cat eye was upgraded all the way ykno?

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Maybe he just made cat eye and liked it and didn't really try any other one to compare

acoustic nebula
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Yeah I have 235 boat, 190 oath, 190 db, 190 pap

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So he could have 3 others he is hiding

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Like oath

stray sigil
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think u can make eye sym or now as feral

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and be fine with all those

clear pulsar
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Yeah my now is 225

stray sigil
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theres even a feral at 29 playing apex

thorny venture
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yay, staff from vault for when I boomie pvp. 20 ilvl upgrade there

stray sigil
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legit doesnt matter

clear pulsar
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I don't care if it matters or not bro

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I'm just trying to talk and see what people think

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Are you fucken

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Quebecois bro

stray sigil
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its gonna be feelcrafting

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do u even care about thast

edgy shale
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i dont understand whats happening right now

clear pulsar
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Ofc all of pvp is feelycrafting bro

acoustic nebula
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We are discussing my oath is bis

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Why*

clear pulsar
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You don't wanna be the new Cope do you?

obtuse ice
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Fuji is cute

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Face is Mexican

clear pulsar
small storm
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u guys remember formy

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good times

clear pulsar
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Bro he's still here

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LOL

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He plays savage roar

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LEGENDARY player

crude minnow
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What an awful community. BULLIES REEEE

edgy shale
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savage roar in pvp? what

clear pulsar
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He talks every other day in here @small storm

edgy shale
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does he just tunnel like a literal insane person?

thorny venture
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I wonder how much my damage in pvp will go up cause I have a 220 staff instead of 200 haha

clear pulsar
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Nah ofc not

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Sotf is better for big constant pressure tunnel all game

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Savage Roar is giving up overall for bigger goes I imagine

thorny venture
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It's 59 int so not like a melee dps weapon upgrade

stone nest
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Val I know for a fact you were chilling in fight club. These guys don’t know what bullies are. Lol

clear pulsar
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Pretty big upgrade

edgy shale
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yea but u gotta set it up

clear pulsar
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For one slot

edgy shale
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200 to 220 weapon is the bigget upgrade ur gonna get in all of slands prob lol

crude minnow
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@stone nest they wouldn't make me a shill in fight club because they were scared

stone nest
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Lol

thorny venture
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nah, now I'm gonna grind all the way to 2400 in rbgs to make it 233. 😄

edgy shale
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well 220 to 233 isn't as much as 200 to 220

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wait r u feral or boomy? it doesn't really matter as much for casters

thorny venture
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that's not how ilvl works, the stat increases go up as ilvl goes up. I pvp as chicken, pve as bear.

edgy shale
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i would bet money a 200-220 upgrade is a higher % upgrade than 220-233

chrome panther
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weps are just as big for casters as mdps.

edgy shale
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is that true? cuz I don't think it is lol

chrome panther
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look at the int difference.

thorny venture
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200 to 220 is 59 int for me

edgy shale
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yeah weapon damage matters so muhc more than 59 int

chrome panther
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go hit a dummy for a bit and come back.

edgy shale
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i dont need to cuz I can use my brain to know what ur saying is dumb lol but its ok don't matter

chrome panther
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🙂

livid heart
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weps are just as big for casters as mdps.
@chrome panther actual troll

chrome panther
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oh rite schools out for NA

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😆

livid heart
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All that auto attk dmg my boomy does 🙃

chrome panther
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yeah bro im totally comparing the weapon dps values on caster weapons

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🙂

stone nest
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Staff for boomies great for the thrashes you do when you are too close during convoke. 200iq

thorny venture
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you guys normally use celestial in pvp right for weapon enchant?

fervent gull
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wow dropping incarn and fury of elune smhw is pog

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as nf

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you bait them into thinking you are kyrian lmao

crude minnow
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Fury of Elune is more of a dreambinder vs boat thing though

fallow warren
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For you pvp restos, do you have party 123 binds for each heal spell, or just target party123 binds and then cast spells normally?

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I'm trying to work out how to fit all the binds on

edgy shale
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I was thinking about using sinful revelation for pvp lol

vital parcel
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resto already have insane amount of spells

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atleast thats what i would do

fallow warren
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Yeah i was struggling for pve buttons already...

patent dove
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One button for each party member

fallow warren
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for each heal?

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or just to target party members?

livid heart
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Target. Only ret zugpallies can have 3 of every spell on their bar

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Imagine having 7 spells

honest mesa
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kekw

wheat laurel
fallow warren
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holy shit you have focus bubble? 😛

wheat laurel
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any time i put a debuff on some1 i get this for its duration

livid heart
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Not my ui, a streamers aha

quartz agate
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Sooo second potency conduit for PvP Night fae boomie?

chrome panther
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conflux/fury

thorny venture
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I simmed, so 200 to 220 weapon is a 4.57% dps increase on patchwerk. In comparison, 220 to 226 weapon on my bear was 3.5% dps increase. Didn't sim feral to see.

honest mesa
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not really big news that weapon upgrades are bigger for melee

thorny venture
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Had someone in here saying they were.

edgy shale
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i dont feel liek simming anything right now, but as feral 220 to 226 weapon was a 1.7% upgrade i remember simming that before

cold escarp
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how does this work

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19k lasso

chrome panther
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channeled stun/dot that pumps

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duh

cold escarp
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yeah i know but wtf

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no way to stop it in 1v1

clear pulsar
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Crits

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With skyfury

chrome panther
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also ele gets phat crits with skyfury

clear pulsar
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Kill skyfury

chrome panther
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in a 1v1 you trinket lasso 🤷

edgy shale
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thats not true, just play warlock/hunter and use ur pet

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simple

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pretend this isn't a druid chat

cold escarp
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true

kindred galleon
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Taunt with FoN

cold escarp
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whats up with blizz giving every class 1 spell that does 50%+ hp

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is it the new way to balance things

chrome panther
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i mean 2 crits off lasso is pretty lucky.

kindred galleon
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We have one that does 100%

cold escarp
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yeah

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i dont like convoke

edgy shale
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if convoke stunned the enemy like lasso lol

kindred galleon
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Or well 300% if ppl stack on moon

nimble quest
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Why is choosing between Boat and timeworn so hard for me! - what what you guys suggest is if mainly gonna 3's with an ele/mage (im leaning more towards timeworn?)

chrome panther
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timeworn.

kindred galleon
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Bind your dreams baby

thorny venture
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I like Boat in rbgs

nimble quest
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yeah that seems like it would be very naughty 😄

cold escarp
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you'll get both eventually anyway

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just go with what you feel like now

edgy shale
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i use primordial arcane pulsar in RBGs cuz i made it early for m+ and i think its borderline trolling, but whatever

nimble quest
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Ive just got enough to make one now thats all

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wanted to be a nerd and get some advice xD

edgy shale
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friggen nerd

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do u do any pve?

nimble quest
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Cause making my ow decisions is hard, ask my 3rd wife!

edgy shale
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cuz boat translates better to that

nimble quest
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yeah im mostly pvping

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And Night Fae

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I appreciate the advice though, bet that gets asked literally every hour or so o/

chrome panther
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idk boomie/ele with dreambinder lets you have an absurdly strong go every minute

nimble quest
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aha makes sense!

junior plover
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Does anyone know which AWC games Jungle was played in?

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As in Feral MM

livid heart
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It was day 1 within the first 2 I believe . Could be wrong

junior plover
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I'll check, cheers

jaunty obsidian
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which of Niya's Tool's on the last tier of the soulbind tree are best for feral and balance?

chrome panther
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uhh

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burrs?

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assuming its not nerfed in pvp someway

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for balance anyways, middle mite be good for feral, but that extra endurance conduit is too juicy

clear pulsar
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Korayn will be the move for feral anyway

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When we finish out the trees

chrome panther
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all 3 have pros and cons for balance atleast

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tho niya mastery feels too gud to pass up

nimble quest
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Dont kill the dream man, you gotta believe! xD

thorny venture
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I have Heirmir, hehe

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3% int and I live after death

tiny oar
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@thorny venture do you play the serrated bonesaw in keys ? How much % dmg does it usually do overall?

still trout
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For balance what stats are y’all going for? I know stack vers but haste and mastery split or going heavy for one

shadow dagger
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im so bummed out man

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this is like the 10th time ive gotten less than 1 win away from 2100 in 2s

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but cant close the deal

thorny venture
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That's a question for guardian chat, but serrated spaulders is like another trinket 4% of my overall roughly

tiny oar
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Oo nice was just wondering since I knew u were necro also

tiny oar
shadow dagger
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already done for now and down to 2030 again

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3rd week failed to get 2100

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or 4th i forget

chrome panther
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time to rbg

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buy a 5th of vodka and grind it out, once your slammed its pretty fun

thorny venture
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need to decide between cloak/bracers, belt, or two rings for conquest this week

junior plover
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Feral buffs when SavageRoar

ebon vortex
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resto buffs when

junior plover
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Man it is depressing to know I'd be like 300 rating higher if I swapped to mage right now

ebon vortex
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its fucking awful theres been no balance patches since the rogue nerf

junior plover
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AWC was on to be fair

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But we really need a patch soon

ebon vortex
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i mean awc just showed how bad it is

junior plover
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Holy pala and fire mage

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Are so disgusting

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And Holy Pala is 10x more disgusting in 2s

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It's not even funny anymore :(

ebon vortex
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i rerolled holy from resto last week and even with garbo gear im healing better than on my rdruid

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the difference is insane and im playing like a fish

junior plover
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Yeah I'm wondering if I should reroll into a mage, grind like 190 gear

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And if that'd be better than my 220 feral

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Probably yeah

ebon vortex
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i just do rbgs on my druid now

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actually feel useful there as resto

junior plover
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I actually wanna be glad in SL tho valina

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Blizzard buff resto and jungle thanks

ebon vortex
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i just wanna be 2.1k again lmfao

thorny venture
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I'm so happy I have modest goals of KSM, AotC and an 1800 set

junior plover
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The 1800 set is sooo good

ebon vortex
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when i started playing resto like 6 months before legion ended i got 1.8k in s1 bfa ez

junior plover
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That's one reason to play a druid i guess

ebon vortex
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now my highest is 1750 this season lmfao

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2.2 last season

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life is pain

junior plover
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I think resto is okayish in 2s

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It's just that

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Holy is so unbelievably good in 2s

ebon vortex
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holy is just got lmfao

junior plover
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Like if a spec with 4 damage immunities is op in 3s

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How do you ever

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Get through them in 2s

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You don't

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It's impossible

thorny venture
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wasn't it similar last season? I actually got 1800 as a hpaladin in 2s in 8.3 and I suck at pvp.

ebon vortex
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its not even just that tho

junior plover
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They also never go oom

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Deal the most damage

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Heal the most and the fastest

ebon vortex
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yeah hpalla and mw were busted last season

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rdruid wasnt great but you could defo still push with it

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managed 2.1k in 3s and 2.2k in 2s myself

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now it just feels like hpalla or die lmfao

junior plover
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Disc priest players must literally be on suicide watch

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Rdruid at least had a niche

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Hpal is just disc+

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Lol

ebon vortex
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could always be worse tho

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could be an mw

junior plover
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Yeah

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Big true

dusky wraith
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whats best rbg resto legendary

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oath?

ebon vortex
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also my pala crits for 7k which is like ????

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with a judgemnet

junior plover
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Yep

ebon vortex
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im just using mend leggo in rbgs

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helps keeping focus targets alive

junior plover
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As for resto druid

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I'd definitely play it feral affi night fae

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With like a mage or spriest

ebon vortex
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feral convoke feels like it does nothing compared to boomie convoke lmfao

junior plover
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Otherwise you're just a worse shaman

ebon vortex
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when ive died to ferals its almost always been outside of convoke

last jackal
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is there any way to see who tagged me if it was few hours ago?

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in this channel

junior plover
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Feral convoke is okayish but yeah nowhere near balance it's sadge

ebon vortex
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on the other hand

junior plover
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Earlier in the season feral convoke was great

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Could easily 100-0 anyone

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But hp and versa

ebon vortex
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was playing with an affli lock who reflected the whole convoke back into the boomie

junior plover
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Outscaled damage

dusky wraith
junior plover
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Nope sorry I have no clue

ebon vortex
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also master shapeshifter is bugged and still hasnt been fixed

dusky wraith
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good bugged bad bugged

ebon vortex
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it just goes away in cat form lmfao

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its been bugged since prepatch

dusky wraith
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What do you say for rbg leggo?

ebon vortex
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mend

tiny oar
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Can also just use verdant ya

dusky wraith
ebon vortex
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yea

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its honestly personal preference

dusky wraith
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i feel like thats risky no?

ebon vortex
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defo helps me healing targets getting focused

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saved a few peoples lives with it

dusky wraith
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do you try to do the CW triple uptime with it?

tiny oar
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Wouldn't make an insane difference either way

ebon vortex
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yeah its not gonna be a big enough difference to matter that much

dusky wraith
#

what about talents?

tiny oar
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Extended cw is preferred tho ya

ebon vortex
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in temple its really nice for healing orbs with big cw

dusky wraith
#

germ or photosynthesis?

ebon vortex
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germ or flourish imo

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flourish is really good in team fights

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mend -> sotf wg -> flourish will keep everyone topped for a while

dusky wraith
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plus if you get a MoMT proc in there its gg

vast vapor
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hunter/rdruid felt so awful against all the hpala/warriors in 2s

ebon vortex
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yea mother tree can be super nice too

dusky wraith
#

what about inner peace vs spring blossoms

vast vapor
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isnt hunter/rdruid supposed to be like a good comp?

dusky wraith
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vs overgrowth?

ebon vortex
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preference again tbf

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i prefer overgrowth

tiny oar
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Would go either photo or flourish yea, germ wont see much value in a group that big, could play efflo if ppl are stacked well, overgrowth if not

ebon vortex
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inner peace is fine if you get a good position

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tranq can go through walls so on some maps you can use that to your advantage

junior plover
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I don't think I've played a single hunter rdruid

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Cyclone + trap is always good tho

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But I feel like you'd need to be feral affi for sure in that comp

vast vapor
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theres just no kill potential compared to like disci/hunter

junior plover
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Hpal Warrior is pretty much unbeatable for most dps tho

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No matter what you do

tiny oar
vast vapor
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feral affi oath convoke does like nothing

junior plover
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Meh it does like 40%

ebon vortex
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i play hpal warr a bit

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feels like ww is the biggest threat lol

junior plover
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If you're playing a setup heavy comp like druid hunter

ebon vortex
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they just dont stop with the damage

junior plover
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I'd definitely run it

vast vapor
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yeah ofc u run it but it still feels sad

junior plover
#

Agreed

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Hpal Warrior is not only absurdly strong it also wins by default vs pretty much every comp

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So you have to go out of your way to find insanely good setups

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To even have a chance

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While they pve you

ebon vortex
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my warr friend is kyrian not venthyr tho sadly lol

tiny oar
#

The dmg u do is pretty minimal compared to just setting up your hunter well

vast vapor
#

yeah

junior plover
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Kyrian is preferred for warr

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At least in 3s

ebon vortex
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yea in 3s

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condemn is much better in 2s

vast vapor
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10k condemns all game is pretty good in 2s

junior plover
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Like sure maybe if you wanted to dr clone

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You can still do that and decide on case by case basis

tiny oar
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Should be getting re's and have double rake + maim for covering both during trap. @junior plover yea that's what I'm saying

junior plover
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If you have them in full trap/clone you can just do extra damage

vast vapor
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survi would prolly also be a lot better in that comp than mm

junior plover
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Survi Rdruid

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Actually good

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Can confirm

vast vapor
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I feel like any spec I play as a druid I get crushed by rogue/mages too

junior plover
#

Feral wins vs rogue mage

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Big time

vast vapor
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yeah feral has done the best yet

ebon vortex
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rogue mage on resto i get fucked

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rogue mage on hpalla i dont think ive lost in 2s lmfao

vast vapor
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prolly feral/hpala could be easiest

junior plover
#

Yep

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Man I should just find a hpal partner

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Instant 2.4k

vast vapor
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big doubt against all these warriors

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and monks

ebon vortex
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i mean like disc and rshammy are fine too

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disc can give some nice pressure in 2s

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and 3s even

junior plover
#

Is hpal actually struggling vs melee compared to disc?

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Disc has nice pressure that's true

#

But so does pala

vast vapor
#

disc needs setupping

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pala just hoj gg ez

junior plover
#

Disc feral is just

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So much harder to play

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For barely any gain

candid lion
#

Rdruid/feral is super good atm!

junior plover
#

^ this is a fun comp to try too tbh

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Double convoke kinda slaps

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And it sounds like DR nightmare

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But you have the same dr as with disc

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So not really

candid lion
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You just have to kite a lot

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And generally u kill in berserk goes

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But so much control, can recommend! 🙂

junior plover
#

I'm really struggling to kill in Berserk goes as NF right now

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But that's probably just me not setting myself up correctly

candid lion
#

With the legendary the dmg is craaazy

#

Spam bites!

junior plover
#

It's good but vs 38k life 25% vers it deals like 60% max :(

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Through no defensives

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At least in my experience

harsh jasper
#

best soul bind for FC as bear ? thoughts?

junior plover
#

Do you drop flag when you go pod?

tiny oar
#

id imagine so

ebon vortex
#

you do now

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used to not do it until a few weeks back

junior plover
#

It's probably still Dream for 3x endu

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Well almost surely

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I don't see a reason to go anything else

harsh jasper
#

good point

vast vapor
#

feral prolly the most promising way to get 2.4 in 2s

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wonder if rdruid/spriest does anywhere near that good as feral/hpal

#

might have to just dream about that rating anyway because all I see at 2300-2400 are r1s

#

how am I supposed to beat them to get to even elite

candid lion
#

Play 3s Riksu

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10x more inflated

vast vapor
#

its kinda same there still

#

nothing but multiglads past 2,2

candid lion
#

It’s 10x easier I promise you

vast vapor
#

finding the partners might be 10x harder

candid lion
#

Maybe but

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The inflation is worth the extra time spent

vast vapor
#

well I agree, been trying to find 3s for a while

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well yeah obviously, every second team has glads in it even at 1800

kindred galleon
#

Got gold? Got glad

deep junco
#

At what score do you get 226 conduits from the conquest vendor?

edgy shale
#

2100

stone nest
#

Get 2.4 in rbgs. That’s the easiest way as a Druid

forest kite
#

what do u guys use to find ppl's ratings in rbgs? had a few bad experiences with low ilvl/cr players in my games

crude minnow
#

invite them inspect them and kick them if a website isnt working

junior plover
#

Drustvar is good

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Or checkpvp

forest kite
#

yea ok, thank you. was going to try those addons. finding the website searching cumbersome just because of trying to find the player's realm

harsh jasper
#

another FC question, best PVP talents? Im using malornes swift, toughness, and freedom

crude minnow
#

i kinda like the charge one too.

forest kite
#

i like malornes, toughness and the one that gives 60 rage

placid mirage
#

what talents do u generally go as bear in pvp. just regular ones

forest kite
#

im only 1800 btw, but i like regular defensive build with bash. then for pvp talents: FC (fast travel, reduce stuns, more rage/demo roar); guarding flag in AB/EOTS (reduce stuns, longer range skull bash, anything/possibly den mother if fighting for nodes in mining map)

fading plover
#

whats the best 3v3 combo for a boomy?

green valve
#

Fire mage hpal?

fading plover
#

what do you guys think of enh shammy?

mild pelican
#

im running BoaT for pvp and rn im at 26% vers but only 8% crit, my PVE set is 17% and im noticing a pretty obvious difference in the amount of times starsurge crits in the boat window

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is it worth it sacrifice vers for crit to get more starsurge burst? if so how much?

thorny venture
#

is your vers set your highest ilvl gear?

chrome panther
#

enhance is probably the ONE dps i wouldn't want to play with

thorny venture
#

Someone needs to Call_ion and get warden turned off in gravity lapse

alpine fjord
#

Hey all, for Guardian FC which is generally preferred at around 2k RBG? Sleeper or NOW?

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It looks fantastic for running across the map. Is it also really useful for defending @ base? Also, does it break existing CC (e.g. make berserk usable in stuns)

thorny venture
#

kinda tough finding people pushing from 1800-2100. A bit of a deadspace haha

alpine fjord
#

Thanks!

young current
#

whats the strategy for boomy/rogue/healer in 3s. Whats the best way to set up kills?

#

and cc chains?

fallow quarry
native totem
#

how can a gamer like me learn to be better in arena

#

I can't find the emote of the frog taking notes

slim crater
#

I got to say love this gearing system for pvp

#

I just wish everything was like 100 conq cheaper

#

My current issue....

I will have 1125 at the end of the week but not sure what to get.

#

everything is such a weird number

#

like 700 is so odd for a 550 cap

rigid linden
#

My two 197 items were trinkets

#

Got badge from vault today and enuf conquest to buy the PvP trink

#

Got bless we full geared week 7

spark nest
#

Is it too late in the expansion to rank up in RBGs? I have been stuck at 1400-1500 rating since the new year and cannot break into 1600. I keep floating at ~50% win rate no matter what groups I join. Even when we have voice and take time to get people with good vers. Has the PVP become to saturated for a PVE scrub to climb the ladder to 1800?

slim crater
#

No

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Its still easy af

queen copper
#

50% win rate should be climbing

#

just having vers isnt useful at all in rbgs. you need people that can play their classes and coordinate

slim crater
#

@vestal citrus How much value should i be putting into my on use trinket you think?

#

Trying to figure out if its worth this week buying a 226 on use

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Shoulders I guess

#

Ill link my armory, but the screenshot is above

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156

#

50 on use int is alot

#

Yeah your right

#

I think im going to buy shoulders this week, hope for badge/boots from chest

formal sparrow
#

How important is versatility in pvp for tanking?

#

flag carrying, etc.

#

People are suggesting I remove my 226 items to put on 207 items with vers which I just can't assume is right

surreal loom
#

Given the DR of vers isnt increased with the pvp bonus

#

definitely not

formal sparrow
#

Alright so 207 is better than 213 if it has vers

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but like, 226 would be better than 213 even if the 213 has vers (generally)

#

Alright, I'll redo my gear and ask again once I have more specific examples

fickle junco
#

1555... i feel like there is some sort of vortex pulling me back to this rating. 1600 feels miles away, yet so close

drifting galleon
#

whats a good balance druid leggo for pvp

queen copper
#

dreambinder or boat if you have it for pve

twilit siren
#

anyone have problem socketing pvp rings?

drifting galleon
#

was thinking circle for rot

edgy shale
#

what do you mean have problem socketting them?

fickle junco
#

does the socket not work on them?

twilit siren
#

yeah I click "yes" and nothing happens

fickle junco
#

you can add sockets to items

twilit siren
#

worked after I took it off? weird

agile depot
#

What are good comps with Boomy/Windwalker?

candid moth
#

you mean what healer adds to it or what?

edgy shale
#

the 3 healers that don't coincide classes w/ the classes u already have

devout frost
candid moth
#

yeah, there are 3 good healer classes atm; Pally > Disc > Sham > ... > rDruid > ... > .... .... .... > MW

edgy shale
#

idk if i'd use that order just cuz sham is good for certain comps cuz they never go oom where disc is always oom

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but disc does seem insane in the comps its good in

devout frost
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disc has dark arch

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would say it works well with boomy/ww since u got double offhealer

candid moth
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disc can make that comp really hard to beat in the opener with WW cds, Incarn, darkarchangel and power infusion

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games might not last to the 2nd incarn due to priest being oom before

edgy shale
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yea no, i agree disc is good in that comp, i was referring to ur comment aqulia about disc being > rsham in general

candid moth
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well, it is

devout frost
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i agree with the sentiment

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hpal/disc is tier above rsham

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and rsham tier above rdruid

tepid spoke
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and mw?

edgy shale
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they rn't evne worth mentioning

devout frost
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mw is worse healer than boomkin

edgy shale
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i guess i stand corrected, but in my anecdotal experience priests fall over a lot easier

tepid spoke
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feelsbadman

candid moth
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MW just dies to everything, had not a single game this season where the MW survived the opener

devout frost
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hpal/disc > rsham > rdruid > hpriest/prot > MW

edgy shale
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u forgot ret

candid moth
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not that I faced a lot

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but the few that tried

devout frost
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its okay, MW will have the same expansion cycle they always have

candid moth
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^^they will make his bubble 30s cd and call it a day

devout frost
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suck ass early expansion > get overbuffed by blizzard cause ppl cry > instantly become the best healer in the game > get small nerf to bring into line > get fked for next xpac

tiny oar
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hell yea the blizzard way

edgy shale
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when do hpals get to suck for a bit? I'm dead tired of them being broken so long

devout frost
edgy shale
devout frost
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they need their time in the spotlight

drowsy halo
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can the pvp items in weekly vault have tertiary stats in them?

tiny oar
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yup

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socks too

devout frost
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socks? POGGIES

tulip falcon
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ye tertiaries don't work in arena though if its just from gear

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at least it was like that in bfa don't think they changed it

edgy shale
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they are poop stats anyway

tiny oar
tulip falcon
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interesting set names

candid moth
tiny oar
tulip falcon
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lmao

tulip falcon
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some real furry shit

tiny oar
formal sparrow
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RBG made fun of my 17% vers 😦 now going to go and item restore all of my versatility pieces

vital parcel
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Tell them to suck it

tulip falcon
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for some reason low rated pugs value vers as some sort of golden ticket to rating

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its weird

candid moth
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its weird, yeah

tulip falcon
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we made a pug on alts the other day and everyone signing up was putting their vers in their notes

clear pulsar
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Yeah lmao

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Like

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Bro 25% vers with 25k hp doesnt make you any tanky

candid moth
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for 1.5 mmr rbgs

tulip falcon
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sounds about right

vast vapor
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just versa bro

devout frost
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just switch out the gear once u get in group

tulip falcon
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i sit in bear form while in our pug groups on my alt because it has like 22k hp outside of it

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and hope no one inspects

candid moth
tiny oar
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🧠

stark wolf
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if i get to a certain raiting : 1800, then i drop to 1700 lets say am i still eligible to upgrades to ilvl 1800 gives access to, or i lose such privilege

vast vapor
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you lose the ability to upgrade

stark wolf
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thanks

near tapir
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Guys, can PvP gear from weekly vault be later upgraded?

edgy shale
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it can!!!

split pollen
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anyone with boat and TD which do you like better for pvp?

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hmm i'm likely to play more 3s and rbgs i think

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that seems reasonable 🙂 thanks

tiny oar
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2 235s jesus lol

split pollen
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what covenant are you glyph?

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ya i'm fae atm but kyrian with TD seems pretty sick

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and fury of elune lines up well to get like 5 or 6 surges bearchamp

royal belfry
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Whats the best legendary for a Night Fae boomkin?

queen copper
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boat if u wanna all in convoke

royal belfry
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Yeah at least now in the start as this is just an alt, thanks 🙂 I'm guessing vers and mastery are the best stats to put on the legendary?

slim crater
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Imo boat

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Haste or Mastery

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Doesn't matter

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I would go mastery

royal belfry
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Alright thanks!

twilit siren
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does fury of elune stop caps after first damage?

clear pulsar
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Yeah should

queen copper
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it does

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full duration

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yea was gonna say a shield maybe

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lmao

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ice barrier but idk

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maybe like... pathing stuff

tulip falcon
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lul

queen copper
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why did he run so far though anyway XD

tulip falcon
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should probably have noticed he was still capping bigbrain

queen copper
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its a shame he was facing the wrong way XD

vital parcel
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Not sure if u got trolled

queen copper
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ive heard thers like 30 rating grace or something.

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havent dropped to lose an upgrade tho

devout frost
vital parcel
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Im 1500 and can upgrade 1.6

devout frost
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there is a grace

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but you cant upgrade to a rating you dont have

vital parcel
flat abyss
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Can you macro for focus target root/beam?

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As it's two spells

split pollen
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is upgrade just highest rating of the week tho (that you got a win near) or do you have to be at it to upgrade?

vital parcel
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Pretty sure i upgraded to 1.6 items when i lost a ton of rating

queen copper
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/cast [@focus] Mass entanglement
/cast [@focus] Solar Beam
vital parcel
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Might be week

vast vapor
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current rank has to be what u want to upgrade to

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you dont fall off a rank instantly if you go under the rating, theres a buffer of like 30 rating

split pollen
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so if i win at 1850 and then drop to 1k rating i can't upgrade at the 1800+ ilvl?

vast vapor
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nope u can't

split pollen
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ooo

devout frost
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oh sorry upgrade

split pollen
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that's how i thought it worked but i'm not sure lol

vast vapor
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you dont have to win the week youre upgrading

blissful jackal
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Question, I'm a bit behind and want to get into pvp with boomy, when is the best timing to go for a convoke blast? I mainly play 2s sometimes 3s

vast vapor
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if u have the rating u can upgrade

split pollen
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oo

devout frost
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upgrade = current rating, vault = highest in current week

split pollen
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ic thanks!

vital parcel
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I shouldnt have tanked those games yday then :/

stark wolf
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ye esterday was worst day for tanking rating :d

clear pulsar
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Imagine dying TWICE TO ANOTHER FERAL BRO

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Disgusting podtender abusers

stark wolf
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the good thing you can just get ur vault item bump rating back where it was, and just use honor ... so nothing bad really happened u just wasted a bit of honor

clear pulsar
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Get FEEARRRRRMED

vital parcel
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I sweat the grind has become more harder, i was almost 1.7k last week

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Now i cant get past 1.5

clear pulsar
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Big feral dominance

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Established

vital parcel
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Too many palas

edgy shale
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i was seeing a ton more monks recently than i have. the rerollers are egtting more geared

vital parcel
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I mean, people at low rating might not be the best

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But atleast they know how to press bubble

west pewter
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As a feral druid. How important is versa compared to other stats? If I have one neck at ilvl 213 with big mastery but no versa, is it worth it to go down 6 ilvls for one with a lot of versa? Is 20 agility worth more than 80 versa when I get haste crit instead?

wicked gust
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Unsure on the exact answer to your question

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But remember that versa gets 40% buff from trinkets

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For damage and healing anyway. So it's not quite the stat vs stat comparison it appears

vital parcel
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I just take the one with the highest ilvl tbh

west pewter
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Oh yeah that is true, so in a way it's a 40% increase in item strength on stats

stark wolf
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for me main use of versa was also the survivability ... if u feel u're tanky enough try the higher one, if dieing fast is still a thing i would rollback