they lost sac
#pvp
clear pulsar
Brain used bop, dew used sac
zinc wadi
sam is getting dicked onm
devout frost
when something relies on enemy playing bad its not being "rewarded"
stray sigil
not that huge imo
clear pulsar
Sac is back in 20
zinc wadi
@devout frost I mean yeah but
the idea of "convoke bad because hehe damage"
is stupid
devout frost
the idea of "convoke bad because hehe damage"
what does this even mean
what argument are you defending
devout frost
in between what
zinc wadi
convoke doing too much for too little, and convoke being easy to kick
devout frost
can u explain what ur point is
zinc wadi
people complain about convoke saying its unfair
devout frost
who is doing that
stone apex
Convoke is only good against bad players tbh
devout frost
we are literally just watching the game
zinc wadi
no no not here
clear pulsar
Convoke is only good against bad players tbh
This is not a good take
stray sigil
we legit just saw
pallid coral
stray sigil
chan take out otk
pallid coral
bad timing brother
zinc wadi
lmao
stray sigil
stop being bad
clear pulsar
Convoke is a good spell, it's not the be all end all that some people make it out to be when they lose to it, and it's not this worthless spell past X rating that some of your weirdos say
stone apex
Its so easy to stop it lol
zinc wadi
it's giga easy to stop
devout frost
if you are bad player its good against bad players
zinc wadi
even with a prot pal theres counterplay
clear pulsar
It's so easy to set it up to where enemy is in CC when you cast it
devout frost
if you are a bad player its bad against good players
pallid coral
should go tell the awc players th at
zinc wadi
yeah don't convoke out of stealth
stray sigil
so was gpie last season
zinc wadi
brain damaged
pallid coral
hey cdew
stray sigil
gpie bad
pallid coral
convoke is so easy to stop lol
stray sigil
so easy to kick
zinc wadi
shoulda para'd it 
pallid coral
"ah fuck of course it is why didn't i th ink of that"
stray sigil
clear pulsar
It only really feels bad vs like melee cleave with rsham for me
Like ret arms rsham it's rough
But otherwise
It's just a cd you can set up for
devout frost
if cdew wasnt on hpal he wouldnt have died to convoke :o)
zinc wadi
if you get trained against double melee you have to hope your partner isn't bad and is doing big dam
stray sigil
idk why its not
zinc wadi
and yeah grounding hurts my soul dude
clear pulsar
Should either be 1 spell or shorter duration
pallid coral
can we go back to discussing the real issue with the game
pallid coral
triune barrier and ret paladins
zinc wadi
TRUE
stray sigil
CBA WASTING ENERGY
zinc wadi
fuck triune
stray sigil
ON 2K HP TOTEM
clear pulsar
Just play double purge comp FPS BIS @pallid coral
zinc wadi
but yeah triune made mages actual livelords
stray sigil
face found the counter
pallid coral
he said fps
zinc wadi
or was he sitting a cc couldn't see
pallid coral
thats not jungle
clear pulsar
Fuji is a quebecoi he can't read english
pallid coral
isn't hunter purge on cd
pallid coral
i actually have no idea
pallid coral
clear pulsar
Damn imagine OTK reverse sweeps Kawhi on the mirrors
clear pulsar
I like ww
stray sigil
ur a dmg bot
clear pulsar
Don't listen to fuji
stray sigil
literally
pallid coral
ww is fun
pallid coral
jesus fuck
vast vapor
why can cat leap during convoke but moonkin cant wc
pallid coral
how does he get let having that much
stray sigil
OTK
stray sigil
trill was stuck
in his pve rotation
could not stop it
i repeat not possible
big dam
zinc wadi
ceralium was cc'ing trill
clear pulsar
Yeah otk has EVERYTHING rn
clear pulsar
Except sac
zinc wadi
rip caut
stray sigil
pve brain
unlcuky
wtf was that hoj
from dew lol
??
lol
put me in coach
i can do set ups better than that
BIG BRAIN
MASSIVE IQ
pallid coral
man
zinc wadi
and there it goes
pallid coral
that's the 2nd time
pallid coral
that otk have big cded the player
stray sigil
so troll lol
pallid coral
while he's podded
vast vapor
sam so washed even tho he has played a bit lately
stray sigil
team diff
pallid coral
sams played like 150 games at 200 ilvl
stray sigil
i mean sam is a bit washed atm
but drake is much better than trill aswell
so is brain
pallid coral
im 1000% sure that cerallium has more wins this season than sam has total games played
clear pulsar
Method won EU right?
devout frost
Method won EU right?
imagine still playing for method
pallid coral
yeah method won eu
devout frost
stray sigil
why is ruki saying pre-v
pallid coral
so had to go crawling back to method
haughty compass
Sam washes
devout frost
so had to go crawling back to method
stray sigil
oh
haughty compass
Washed*
stray sigil
i wonder if godcomp
into boomy mage
is anygood
mindgame on boomy
feel like thatd be better than mirror
haughty compass
Convoke v kyrian once and for all
stray sigil
think were bound to see mirror atleast once
novel sky
i want to see two boomies
stray sigil
he troll qs
with the mies
on his boomy
actually hilarious cuz when he kills with convoke
u hear the mies
breaking character
lol
clear pulsar
Sephuz doesn't stack with Relentless right? Only with Orc racial
vast vapor
does disci/feral have a way to beat rogue/mage
pallid coral
yes
if they go disc disc needs to PS early
and feral needs to break up the go
ideally on rogue
then if you can prebear go's you should be good
pallid coral
heart of the wild is pretty nuts too
clear pulsar
It's pretty chill just don't let rogue get a free restealth ever
clear pulsar
You can like, sit around your priest to incap roar immediately if they sap
vast vapor
yeah everyone always says dont let rogue get a free restealth :D
the conduit is insane
pallid coral
yeah that's pretty whack
clear pulsar
Yeah ofc bro why else would you play venthyr
If not for spam dashing to people
I can't make sense of my keybinds as arms
Like arranging them similar to feral
Idk how to place the spells
knotty ocean
@clear pulsar I had the worst time trying to keybind my boomy after playing warrior for so long lol
think i added like 7 more keybinds just to get everything
knotty ocean
π¦
edgy shale
when i go from feral to boomy for rbgs im like where tf are my skills at
clear pulsar
Like my shifting forms and all
knotty ocean
just shifting forms and having stuff available for all forms and new stuff for forms etc makes it hell for me
clear pulsar
Stack conduit with pvp talent and it's like
stray sigil
wasnt rally a 3min cd before lol
pallid coral
yeah
but there's just an honor talent that reduces its cd by 2 minutes AND it gives more health
for some reason
primal bane
there is nothing complicated with form shift
bear form put the 3 offensive abilities close
and mash them randomly
also mash hot
travel form u dont do anything cat form just for speed boost
bleak dune
Anyone EU playing BGs in groups?
tepid spoke
so im really torn between picking haste vers or vers mastery gear for my boomy
Should i like pick haste until i get some decent levels then get mastery?
or just pick all haste vers
tepid spoke
i thought glyph said haste is the way to go
primal bane
glyph probably also runs kyrian
what does haste give to a boomie in pvp
like slighly better cycs
supple path
haste affects astral power generation π
fervent gull
damn going both guardian and boomy if offspec needed into rbgs is so nice
both are so fun
clear pulsar
@tepid spoke cope doesnt actually say anything that makes sense and changes his mind on whether something is broken or shit every other day depending on what he's trying to play
crude minnow
Mastery is still good. You just really dont want low haste
tepid spoke
Yeah i figured
but i bought mastery vers pants
i think i fucked up
cuz i have 10% haste
what is ad ecent haste %?
clear pulsar
Bro 'fucked up' is such strong wording for a 40 haste difference
Like
Just play good
tepid spoke
yeah i guess XD
devout frost
main stat and vers matters way more than other 2ndaries anyway ur gucci @tepid spoke
vast vapor
healer variety is strong in awc
tiny oar
Yea I just put on crit vers gloves as rdruid who cares
vast vapor
try to get to 13min games with anything else than pala lul
fervent gull
as guardian on carry the flag maps for rbgs, is it better resto or feral affi?
pallid coral
resto on maps that aren't twin peaks
if you get twin peaks horde side then go balance affin
flap op
calm hollow
Balance druids are yoh guys using the swiftmend leggo for pvp?
vast vapor
is feral convoke deadly without using anything else
like balance atleast needs eclipse to do something with it, does feral want any procs or can u just use it with stun always
pallid coral
can send it solo
Ideally you want TF up as well
to increase bites
but dont' need it
vast vapor
aight
dusty tundra
You will lose one cast tho
and considering TF is 30 sec Cd its not that hard to allign
pallid coral
yeah
i know convoke will cast tf
but it's variable where in convoke your abilities cast in the first place
and it also counts as a cat spell
so it takes the place of a shred or a bite
so having TF up before hand a) guarantees your whole convoke is TF buffed and B) increases the chance of getting more bites
vast vapor
kinda feels stronger than balance convoke
vast vapor
yeah
pallid coral
its maybe stronger than balance convoke in isolation
but ca convoke is a decent bit stronger i think
vast vapor
can you stagger feral convoke like balance
yeah
I'm pretty sure that happened to me already
rogue stepped away right before I convoked and I wild charged him and he just disappeared
clear pulsar
Surge and full moon are quite a bit better than bite and feral frenzy
pallid coral
I think bite IN CONVOKE is better than surge due to how much easier is to bang it into one target
but yes
you're correct
about full moon in particular
clear pulsar
Well yeah I'm talking more like damage per cast
chrome panther
its not hard to abuse los to force convoke into 1 target π€·
clear pulsar
And feral at most will come out of it with one more Bite, balance will always come out with one Surge, if not more
chrome panther
^
pallid coral
Just be lappe and get 52k convoke surges
vast vapor
I dont think bites are fare from that
chrome panther
Nothings better than whiffing convoke only to rail 3 15k surges into someone after they think they're safe
pallid coral
it was only 2 stacks
just device
rofl
he rolled 2 surges in first 2 ticks of convoke
and that was that
tepid spoke
isnt bell better
pallid coral
device is more mastery
vast vapor
I only have 220 device :(
pallid coral
bell might be better overall
tepid spoke
is it? i have a 197 bell
pallid coral
but for big dam oneshots
vast vapor
700 stats
tepid spoke
220is 700?
clear pulsar
197 bell???? How
vast vapor
lucker from calling
tepid spoke
epic calling
clear pulsar
vast vapor
but yeah 220 is 696 stats
tepid spoke
nice
vast vapor
I've done some 150k convokes in 3s and killed 3 with it
still cant get 2,4k, hard game
vast vapor
yeap
drain hurts so fucking much
the tripledrain just sucks everyone to death
pog
last game owl
tepid spoke
where can i see AWC?
trim moth
Boomkin is up again for show π
vast vapor
big surprise theres fire mage in that post
trim moth
Theyβve moved it off twitch
tiny oar
They only streaming YouTube now
tepid spoke
why is that?
vast vapor
jew tricks
clear pulsar
That thread makes me upset
tiny oar
No idea more viewership mayb or sumthing
clear pulsar
why is that?
Contracts
I mean
Hello?
Why is a given sport broadcast on one channel over another?
vast vapor
its funny how much they miss viewers by not having it on both
clear pulsar
BRO YOU ARE LITERALLY THE LAKERS
tiny oar
LOL
clear pulsar
Nah viewership is the same as it's always been
stone nest
That got anti-Semitic fast
vast vapor
gg I was the breath
trim moth
Boomkin almost took out pally without convoke π±
tiny oar
Wow imagine that
clear pulsar
Yeah I hope Chanimal just gets a double Surge kill on someone 2 crits
Without Convoke
tiny oar
Yeah I hope Chanimal just gets a double Surge kill on someone 2 crits
Puts someone in the dirt ya
clear pulsar
I'm ready to smash so hard bro @tiny oar
vast vapor
u think chan is gonna wait for CAvoke or just yolo convoke with normal eclipse?
tepid spoke
convoke gameplay looks stupid af
vast vapor
its usually unusable for so long
should just cancel byself for masterybuff and pump em surges
clear pulsar
Damn bro C9 is so good at just stopping the CAvoke
LEGENDARY players
Goat shit only
chrome panther
clear pulsar
Yeah as you can see Convoke just simply doesn't work above top 3 tourney @vestal citrus
lime light
clear pulsar
Not good enough
clear pulsar
????
It's the literal same gameplay as if he was Kyrian
Outside of the one button press that is Convoke
It's all the literal same
vast vapor
even full moon proc was useless
tepid spoke
can he not go every 1 min with kyrian tho
tepid spoke
lmao this game xD
vast vapor
seed against monk, I dont think it ever lives
novel sky
Rip
chrome panther
lets see monk damage
chrome panther
atleast awc is over
big nerfs inc tuesday
rets will go back to being the wheelchair meme they deserve to be π
vast vapor
I just want nothing else but mage nerfs
tepid spoke
theyll nerf convoke
trim moth
Kyrian may very well be the obvious choice if they do.
clear pulsar
Does Supatease unironically not know who Kawhi is?
crude minnow
just make convoke more consistent in pvp. ezpz
trim moth
That could be a possibility. Take the damage from starsurge.
crude minnow
taking damage from starsurge would be pretty dumb. would shit on boomy and really not do anything to convoke
clear pulsar
Yall are so wild lmao
vast vapor
thats the blizzard way o
karmic kelp
AYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I got something better
fervent gull
damn
vast vapor
thats the best result
karmic kelp
Yup
vast vapor
Ive had that too
chrome panther
pretty much.
crude minnow
I wouldnt be surprised if blizz nerfs how mmr works for rbgs in the next season. Feels like 1800 should be 1500
tepid spoke
its always been like this
its just being abused cuz pvp gear is better than pve gearing
tiny oar
reef sapphire
pretty new to rbgs on my boomy, do most of you use starfall constantly to look like a god on the dmg meter or save the power for starsurges when swapping to kill targets? XD
crude minnow
Almost never starfall. Its padding and only really does anything if you have a lot of spread pressure and they are down healers. Even then just starsurge kill targets
foggy ravine
you'll look like a god without starfall padding
get the dots rolling then pew pew someones forehead
crude minnow
If the raid leader says some BS about a padder boomy doing more damage than you, mention your killing blows vs theirs
reef sapphire
yeah thats true
foggy ravine
root beam a healer on target swaps and you'll do great
reef sapphire
cool, it was my first time with an organised group and it was actually hella fun. Can;t wait to get better
foggy ravine
ya boomkin is a blast in rbgs
reef sapphire
I had never played witha group that properly calls swap targets etc. I was just like "HOLY SHIT THIS IS WHAT AN RBG IS MEANT TO BE?!?!" jajaja
will definitely focus on starsurges people in their foreheads, thx for the advice
foggy ravine
haha np ya throwing a rootbeam on a healer when you burst will go miles in pug games starting out
reef sapphire
entangling roots yeah? or get in close for mass root
crude minnow
Yeah. Focus on cycloning in between goes is big. And always mass entangle+beam
strongest cc in the game (in rbgs atleast)
foggy ravine
mass entangle is great in rbgs
reef sapphire
wait is mass entangle targeted or just roots around you?
foggy ravine
sometimes you can even catch two healers if they get stacked
crude minnow
targetted. slightly lower range than beam, so make sure you are close enough
reef sapphire
wottttt I should read my spells
crude minnow
Ive had 3 healers and 2 casters in a root beam before. Win fights on its own
foggy ravine
ya thats a gg
reef sapphire
ok that makes the root+beam macro make more sense. I read it as it roots ppl within 15 yards of you
crude minnow
I took the root damage dot and root breaks after more damage for ashran and it was honestly so funny. Did like 15% of my damage. obv bad anywhere else
foggy ravine
ye groin its huge for slowing rotates in bgs too
crude minnow
can flank a bit from the side and rootbeam their team, causing their front end to normally overextend
clear pulsar
No the best we can do is 350 rating at 25%
Vers just isn't this be all end all of measures of your character's power ykno?
It is a kinda pointless question no lie
tardy obsidian
literally people are so fucking vague like "just stack vers" like cool, I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
clear pulsar
Getting more or less gear or a particular stat doesn't teach you how to play the game, which is far more important
edgy shale
thats not really that vague to be honest. just get as much vers gear as you can and ur fine
clear pulsar
Just equip your upgrades as they come
Vers is best secondary, ilvl on armor is more important than an optimized secondary, and more important than all that is improving and looking at your own play, trying to learn from it
tardy obsidian
still new and learning that the wow community in general is super fucking unhelpful, jesus christ
clear pulsar
edgy shale
23% vers is a good amount if that's what you mean
like its not like WOW 23% vers?! but its enough
ppl just hate getting asked number questions here cuz pvp isnt really about numbers like that
queen copper
yea you can do this and you can also outrange to heal and walk into range to pump 4 surges at the end
crude minnow
havent done 2s this season on my druid. Im doing 2s with my friends fresh DK and popping out and convoking with 219 ilvl. I feel like a bad dude
edgy shale
thats just bullying at that point
crude minnow
its free conquest for my buddy lol. Comes out with 24k hp
surreal siren
Can you get higher ilevel conduits with higher pvp rating? Or is Ve'nari the only way to upgrade conduits?
clear pulsar
Yes you can
It upgrades straight on the vendor
So if you bought at 200 you have to buy again at higher rating
With conquest, not upgrades with honor
edgy shale
which is BS btw
kindred galleon
They almost didnβt kill anyone?!
edgy shale
ya, its a tiny thing, but since everything else can be upgraded like that idk why conduits can't.
clear pulsar
Since you got way more flags
Blueprynt a prot pala? @vestal citrus
Or just venthyr holy?
No that's a tank
You already got 3 other healers
You're so disgusting bro
Holy cock
kindred galleon
Yeah but the difference in kills I soo huge
tiny oar
Prot flag sitter 
clear pulsar
Looks like you need Momjokes on the team then @vestal citrus
LEDGE AND DAIRY player
tiny oar
kindred galleon
Itβs 50+kills vs 10, I mean some of their team must have sat at spiritresser for half the game
Yeah I understand what happened Iβm just amazed
clear pulsar
Yo is there any good reason for people on forum squad to hate on socks? Or just slobbering up vethosis?
@vestal citrus
Bet
Watching this thrilling melee cleave v melee cleave matchup
And idk what I'm looking at but it doesn't seem like he does any worse than other hpalas
kindred galleon
Watching a 2v2 boxing match with all 4 just flailing around
Oh we are watching the same stream @clear pulsar
clear pulsar
@vestal citrus I was more so talking about his play
Cuz feels like whenever veth says anyone is shit they start to act like 'yeah that guy's terrible carried by x and y'
And half the time I can't really tell but idk he looks to manage his cds aight!?
Yeah I think that's what I need
Oh yeah easily 1500 games a season
Between all his palas
Yeah too bad there are like 4 hunters in NA
Can't do that as jungle
hoary ledge
Should we all swap night fae now? Lmao
kindred galleon
Yeah convoke is busted, neeeeeerrrffff
hoary ledge
If they donβt nerf should I swap from kyrian? Lmao
tiny oar
Play whatever u want
kindred galleon
Kyrian is more consistent
Night fae is sort of organized chaos, you can use convoke in many ways
clear pulsar
Is that a real question?
I thought you were memeing
Cuz like
We were all memeing earlier
The state of the covenants hasn't changed you know
foggy portal
Is NF best covenant for rbg ?
clear pulsar
Whatever guides and rank 1s say about it is still the same thing
foggy portal
Seems like a lot of mobility for FC
sullen mauve
so doesnt convoke hit rooted targets now? or is it still broken?
kindred galleon
Hits no ccs
sullen mauve
wasnt there just a hotfix to change that? or is it not live yet
crude minnow
NF is the best for boomy for rbgs because you can actually reliably get convoke off in rbgs. Very big and often results in 1-3 kills. Soul shape is a hard downgrade from phial
clear pulsar
It got reversed within a day @sullen mauve
sullen mauve
ahh ok missed that
undone egret
since chanimal lost on a convoke boomie we're safe, they have to nerf combust before convoke now π
crude minnow
Convoke is bad design. I'm cool with them nerfing the shit out of it if they can not touch base boomy. I'll just go kyrian. Sounds comfy in rbgs too
spare harbor
is running balance affinity viable in arena for resto?
i've only run feral/guardian
but running in with feral can feel really bad sometimes
turbid olive
Youβre already playing the game in hardmode as a resto in arena anyway lol. I canβt see giving up the control feral aff provides ever making balance aff worthwhile
clear pulsar
Convoke is bad design. I'm cool with them nerfing the shit out of it if they can...
The issue is 1. time commitment to farming renown is actually pretty high so they don't want to shift covenants from being good to unplayable, and 2. pveers will complain cuz now they're a. forced to pvp and b. their covenant is shit in pvp.
And all the other covenants are such hot fucking garbage in pve
It's not even funny
crude minnow
Yeah the fix is to make it not rng in pvp imo. I don't want it to suck, but idk what they were thinking having convoke be 20% of your damage in single target pve. Like wtf
clear pulsar
It's like 13% for me
But yeah
I get it
It whatever idk
It's only problematic that it's RNG and there's an easy way to fix that without nerfing the total potential of a full cast
But they could just buff the other garbage covenants instead
edgy shale
i dont really think its a huge problem to have it be a crazy pve dps button. like on destro lock in 8.3 i did like 75% of my damage during infernal window, its the same thing
crude minnow
If kyrian was best, it would still perform well compared to other top raid specs
clear pulsar
Kyrian only performs well if stars align
Large large majority of the time there is a lot of wasted damage
edgy shale
isnt the assumption u just link urself?
clear pulsar
Not in pve
crude minnow
Which is why the standard should be yourself
clear pulsar
I'm talking about being garbage in pve
edgy shale
ya i get it. u need specific conditions to linking someone else to be good
crude minnow
How often will you actually be able to make it work better on someone else than yourself over the course of a whole fight?
clear pulsar
It's not even specific conditions
It's really just timing of your damage
Like one of you's burst will be slightly earlier/more frontloaded
And so that portion of damage won't have any in the bank to pull from
Thus won't be buffed at all
crude minnow
Yeah, just in realistic scenarios, I just don't see it being better outside of really really planning it with another kyrian boomie buddy
edgy shale
kyrian is more trouble th an its worth in pve
crude minnow
Regardless, kyrian boomie sounds fun and I wanna do it. I just mainly rbg
edgy shale
i just wish i could NF in pve and kyrian in pvp cuz the kyrian ff goes are just too strong
edgy shale
lol u can, do it
clear pulsar
If only necro did some bursty oomph at the end
Nah it's terrible
I did it
It's pretty worthless
edgy shale
AS makes FF huge tho, right?
clear pulsar
Idk it's a 28% buff
Not really huge
And it's not frontloaded damage that wins games
It's just a bleed
edgy shale
yea its relatively quick, but i can see how its easily not enough burst lol
clear pulsar
It just doesn't do anything meaningful and is one extra global
I mean
It's some damage ye!?
It's not totally worthless
Well it is totally worthless in pve
In m+ really
I don't raid
tiny oar
Feral frenzy necro tho
edgy shale
necro isn't THAT bad ST. but in aoe they become doody butt i think
clear pulsar
I've already said this a buncha times
It should explode when it bounces
On top of a bit of a buff ofc
So like
Amps periodic effects by 15%, then explodes for the total amplification it provided when it bounces
Either heal or damage
So it's a total 30% of the dot damage rather than current 20, and a bit of a burst of damage at the end rather than just dots
edgy shale
ya sounds like a good idea
clear pulsar
Would be terrific yeah!? Put up a fat stealth rake + ff in big mob in m+, explodes for a bit in aoe
Would also help with pressure a bit if they just made LI affected by mastery and by Draught
edgy shale
wouldn't wanna overbuff resto tho. omega busted spec right now in all content of course
edgy shale
ok thank god
clear pulsar
I'm renown 9 on warr already
But cba doing content
@tiny oar you have alliance toon?
I shoulda leveled horde warr lmao
edgy shale
yea there's a bunch of specs i wanna play right now, but not much mot ivation to get them to the point i want them at
tiny oar
<@!237412116024393728> you have alliance toon?
51 nelf druid 
twilit siren
what do I need to know as fc other than pressing defensives as enemies attempt to burst me
clear pulsar
Bro have you played arena as nelf tho it's terrific, just finish leveling bro @tiny oar
pulsar hamlet
Has anyone tried stellar drift on balance Druid in bugs and rbgs? If so is it better than twin moons?
pulsar hamlet
Bgs*
tiny oar
Bro have you played arena as nelf tho it's terrific, just finish leveling bro <@...
Yea imagine meld drinking instantly would be so nice fuck horde.
Swear I get combat bugged for like 10 fucking seconds sometimes sumhow on prowl rake attempts, it's so ass.
tiny oar
Yea it's real nice as rdruid just to be able to instantly drink
Sometimes I'll throw out full hots fake 2 regrowths, root something with nothing hitting me and I'll still be in combat for like 4-5 seconds after all that, it's so weird.
clear pulsar
Meld is terrific
edgy shale
kinda steams me its Bis for feral in pve and pvp
edgy shale
theres no big difference between the races but NE sims the highest
clear pulsar
Anyway my first part quest for going back kyrian is done
I'll sit on it waiting to see if they enrf Convoke
edgy shale
don't even mention OCE to me right now. Those fuckers on barthilas leave keys more than anyone i've ever seen
if anyone here is from that server ill fight you
1v1 me
tiny oar
Lol kinda understandable to leave some keys I feel like depending on situation
Like ppl that leave after a couple wipes are fried obvi cuz you can still time it but
If ur in a +5 with 4 ppl that have to remember how to breath when they wake up in the morning, n its already past depleted like fuck being in a key for 1 hr for 1 piece of loot.
edgy shale
lol well yea. that sounds fucked. my situations have been mainly being like 3/4 thru or even on last boss of a +14 and fuckers are leaving when we might not time cuz of a wipe. its like...ok even if we don't time, we get a +14 for the vault goddam. idk if these people are just doing that much m+ they don't care bout vault like that but its so annoying
wait really? lol
facts
tiny oar
clear pulsar
He had us in the first half
edgy shale
ya, my experience 100% confirms that
tiny oar
π§
devout frost
Oce horde players
just oce players in general
edgy shale
get back here and 1v1 me
tiny oar
Oh Cole's in here too hi Cole
devout frost
u dont have to brag about getting boosted
edgy shale
what comp do u run
edgy shale
oh i thought u must run fire mage feral pala w/ how passionate u are about that comp lol
edgy shale
he was saying that comp sucked, weren't u saying it was really good cuz it is?
clear pulsar
Ground for magic cc and bop for physical
tiny oar
u dont have to brag about getting boosted
Toxic bro wheres the reformed attitude
clear pulsar
He was saying it was free rating compared to boomie
And htne he linked some armory representation shit and I told him that none of those ferals played FMP
weak hinge
ye cuz boomie is so hard lul
clear pulsar
I mean anything mage pala is sick ofc but
Of the ferals above 2.7 when he linked, half played jungle, 2 others played feral lock
edgy shale
i thought he was also saying the comp lacked setup cuz hpal can't stun...but o right he meant the boomy variant
edgy shale
i remember now
devout frost
Toxic bro wheres the reformed attitude <:SavageRoar:776720396580945950>
ur flaming me for being toxic while calling me bro
edgy shale
bro, bro is a term of endearment for me bro, love u
tiny oar
Lad fam etc
tiny oar
Non gendered noun descriptive is that better
clear pulsar
Classic self centered danish complex
edgy shale
facts
devout frost
u asked me for toe pics u would know
dark shell
What mates so you Guys recommend AS boomer?? Affliction? Ele? Firemage?
tiny oar
Like I call my sister bro n she's a gay grill who cares
edgy shale
those all sound good
tiny oar
Its 2021 everyones gay af
weak hinge
imo aff is better than spr for boomer
devout frost
Like I call my sister bro n she's a gay grill who cares
i care π‘
clear pulsar
You're crayyyyzy
devout frost
use fam
clear pulsar
Nah bro I'm chilling
edgy shale
the hardest I've been 1 shot since pre-nerf kyrian rogue has been spriest w/ zerking
tiny oar
I will use fam just 4 u
edgy shale
literally 1 shot me like jesus christ
weak hinge
u lose to other wizard cleaves as spr boomer imo
devout frost
Nah bro I'm chilling
tiny oar
Sry if I offended
devout frost
clear pulsar
u lose to other wizard cleaves as spr boomer imo
I'd like to see how well you do without a purge vs fire mages then
tiny oar
not good enough u have to paypal me money now
Do u accept toe pics as payment
edgy shale
weak hinge
@clear pulsar yeah both kinda suboptimal π
devout frost
Do u accept toe pics as payment
if u send them to @clear pulsar ye
clear pulsar
You're wilding
weak hinge
i dont like it
clear pulsar
At least it's insane when I face them
tiny oar
HA enjoy my toe pics f2f
devout frost
tiny oar
My nelf will b 60 soon then we can feral rdruid to 2400 bro @clear pulsar
clear pulsar
edgy shale
tiny oar
Sips played it s2 bfa we can PUMP
clear pulsar
Skyhold is fucking wild bro
I just read someone there say every spec's self healing should be on same level of ignore pain
Hybrid's shouldn't heal more than warriors
devout frost
imagine spending time in Skyhold and still not knowing me @clear pulsar
clear pulsar
Are you COrejo?
devout frost
clear pulsar
He kinda looks like a danish chick
devout frost
skyhold is a free for all
clear pulsar
You think so?
I used to be in every class discord and warrior mains always had the worst fucking takes
devout frost
wish mods would put the lid on the space heads too π
so i dont have to see the same 4 ppl crying how every spec is op/up except the one they play in here
turbid olive
Has anyone messed around with new moon in arena / rbg? The full moon proves from convince hit hard af as we all know. Couldnβt we fairly reliably do that intentionally with BOAT procs?
clear pulsar
The cd is just too long tbh
turbid olive
Gotcha. The shooting stars dmg just feels like scoreboard fluff rather than meaningful damage a lot of times
devout frost
shooting stars is AsP generator supreme
clear pulsar
Full Moon every 75s is neither here nor there
clear pulsar
It's good astral power but like
tiny oar
Sry expert tian
lucid galleon
Hi all,
I have just started gearing my balance druid, currently ilvl 190.
I mainly PvP and want to push arena/RBG's, how would you suggest that I push gear? Via conquest/honor or M+/Raids?
lime light
Full moon is bugged
clear pulsar
If you're sitting there hardcasting Full Moon on a go you're wasting so much time
devout frost
Stop spamming my chat
why tf do u have notifs on
lime light
I dont
devout frost
Hi all,
I have just started gearing my balance druid, currently ilvl 190.
I m...
epic bgs
lime light
devout frost
or just get full covenant gear at this point
clear pulsar
Yeah get full covenant gear and then start blasting for conquest
tiny oar
I did 2 rbgs for weekly yesterday was fun
tiny oar
Ty
light dove
Is the 20% convoke damage the way to go for feral 2s?
tiny oar
Go 4 it dude
light dove
I will try it and report back master
tiny oar
Every conduit other than auto frenzy is useless change my mind
lime light
U kid
tiny oar
light dove
Auto frenzy?
tiny oar
Well honed instincts
edgy shale
RBG fastest way ro farm everything its crazy how much u get
lucid galleon
I have 3 pieces of conquest gear, got 5k honor so far in rateds this week, so I have 2 rolls so far in the great fauly & have 1k conquest saved, with another 1k to get before cap
light dove
I should get into them
lucid galleon
so I will have 5 pieces & a mythic 207 ring which has vers/mast
edgy shale
yolo RBGs are really fun, but RBGs are also the place I've seen people rage the hardest its crazy
lucid galleon
so just keep pushing to the 197 honor & conquest??
I've not upgraded anything from 184 yet, I have like 6k honor saved, wanted to wait until I see what I get from the vault
tiny oar
Would just wait 4 reset ya
edgy shale
i mean u can just use ur honor. it will not be long at all until u have more honor than u know what to do with
either way i guess lol
tiny oar
Not a huge deal either way tho ya
lucid galleon
I think I will wait until reset before dropping 5k on an upgrade now, just to get it in the vault π
I'm working most of today/tomorrow, so won't get much honor then
weak hinge
its just aids to farm honor because cap is not enough to upgrade all gear when u reach 2.1k lol
edgy shale
yeah, but ur also playing against complete shitters
maybe ur mmr is too high to really appreciate the magic of it
weak hinge
@lime light u from siberia or what
tiny oar
Stay alive no frostbite pls @lime light
lime light
Poland
edgy shale
lime light
edgy shale
lucid galleon
Sandals/Flip flops
English term I believe π
Sat at work watching arenas and tips/tricks, good productive day for me!
tiny oar
Ya ya just interesting slang never heard of it before
lucid galleon
I think sliders have just like the bit over the front of your toes & sandals have a strap at the back (I think!)
But I think that's how us brits refer to it, we're probably wrong hah
cold veldt
Hello, how does convoke spirits work exactly ? Throws 16 random spells but for example if you want full moons to be thrown do you have to have it in your talents?
lucid galleon
@cold veldt No you don't
edgy shale
convoke has a low chance to cast a strong ass spell
well idk if its low, but its a chance
clear pulsar
16 spells total
10 are form specific (wrath, moonfire, surge, full moon for balance form)
6 are generic (rejuv, regrowth, thrash, rake)
It's a 20% chance give or take
To cast Full Moon
Don't need it talented
lucid galleon
I cast Convoke and it shoots out 16 moonfires, someone casts it against me and hits 4x starsurge and a full moon
edgy shale
and if ur feral is frenzy frenzy
clear pulsar
That is literally not possible
lucid galleon
What isn't @clear pulsar
edgy shale
casting 16 moonfires w/ convoke
lucid galleon
Oh, I was exaggerating, but sometimes it feels that way
pine hawk
How's boomy in 2's?
tiny oar
Just dandy
winter spindle
i think like 4 starsurges are guaranteed
5 if you pre cast starfall
lucid galleon
Does it re-apply dots too?
If people already have dots on them, will convoke re-apply dots or will it skip over them?
Like you said it does with starfall?
edgy shale
I do not think it will cast a dot on something that already has the dot on it
so rake and moonfire
and thrash i guess
clear pulsar
The only relevant one you should put up is Moonfire
lucid galleon
Ah that's good to know, so in arena, what's your preference regarding convoking out of stealth, do you do that, or do you wait until mid-game?
clear pulsar
It won't use more damage spells if you have thrash up
slim crater
@lucid galleon in 2's i feel like its pretty easy to root beam out of stealth and insta convoke
weak hinge
people are ready for insta convoke. don't do that bruv
limber plover
me smh
vagrant cloud
You jusr farm your gear
lucid galleon
I was thinking of trying resto for 2's
limber plover
yeah..also is rdruid/subtley rogue good comp?
lucid galleon
I have a WW & Druid with similar gear, still don't know which one to push D:
limber plover
U both have to be gods tho
ok after 3 rounds trying
obv we are not gods
potent comet
Wait until Tuesday reset
lucid galleon
ok after 3 rounds trying
obv we are not gods
That's funny! π
limber plover
he can't kill any of them in the start
And after he failed
we just lost all ability
lucid galleon
Think with resto you need constant pressure
Arms/DH/DK/SP/ELE
I think
If I already have a conquest item, can I get it again in the vault as a dupe?
limber plover
alright I need to find a new partner thanks
lucid galleon
I think the self sustain of a SP is great if you want to play more agressive
If you want set-ups, go for Arms/Ele
lucid galleon
Think with Rdruid you need some survivability with classes, or constant pressure
Rogue doesn't really have either
When you say survivability sp vs rogue, sp is greater & they have constant pressure too
So you can go aggressive
You can be semi-aggressive with arms, I would try either of those π
limber plover
I got good result from arms/rdruid tho
tiny oar
Yea any melee is fine tbh ret warr ww all good
limber plover
it just he is busy now lol
tiny oar
Rogue rdruid is very setup based you have to contribute a lot for resets with clones
Basically the DRs should work out that its 1v2 the entire game
lucid galleon
Probably hard to do with no voice comm's
tiny oar
Yea definitely easier with voice and a lot of games played with each other
Big time synergy comp
limber plover
Basically the DRs should work out that its 1v2 the entire game
rdruid tanking 1v2?
tiny oar
What do u mean
limber plover
you said 1v2 entire game?
edgy shale
no, the amount of cc u put out makes it 2v1
r druid has dumb cc for a healer
god help u if ur a feral against that
bronze patrol
what's the options for balance leggo for pvp?
edgy shale
pins
clear pulsar
If you're feral you stun them out of bear when they try to cast and just kill
limber plover
no, the amount of cc u put out makes it 2v1
ohhh I see
clear pulsar
And everyone knows the druid that goes for hibernate first is a wuss
Never press that shit, have some dignity
tiny oar
I press it on ferals just to piss them off
edgy shale
lol i agree, but just in terms of the pure cc rdruids can do to u
clear pulsar
Yeah id spit on u @tiny oar