convoke into melee reliably? how so?
#pvp
viral ocean
stray sigil
convoke always breaks trap for me
so i dont see how big a change that shit ius
is it moslty a boomy change
?
ah
u cant play diamond ice
no way lol
jungle already so scripted if u play diamond ice no chance u win any games
clear pulsar
convoke always breaks trap for me
Probably just thrash ye!?
Or like, it throws out a Wrath before the trap actually landed
But anyway yea
Do we know that this means it hits traps/polys? Cuz it mentions only roots
This yolo I joined has 3 feral druids
stray sigil
it can throw a wrath as hunter traps
and it will break
but yes thrash breaks it
and like i could just not convoke there but
sometimes its prime
ya if the wrath is out as the cc hits it breaks it
hoenstly im kinda done with convoke no cap
feral convoke is giga trash compared to boomy
oblique wharf
That convoke change is pretty nice for arena isnt it?
clear pulsar
Any rbgers in chat?
crude minnow
"kick the other boomy he is doing no damage" -starfall Chad
hushed pivot
Then you don’t have to worry about their boomy killing your healers
crude minnow
R O T
zinc burrow
Boomy is going to be insane now
blissful belfry
I honestly cant wait to try out convokes tomorow in arena
If they dont have a trinket, arent they, like, automatically dead? With root beam + clone convoke
oblique wharf
It will break root beam now
Could cheese people now too with deep roots and vortex from resto aff
Depp roots probably enough tho, for convoke to go off while they are in beam
vast vapor
rmp feels so impossible to beat rn
atleast with any boomkin comp, they can just force reset always
stiff zodiac
What legendary works Great in pvp and pve for Balance
Probably boat Right?
Or are there better suggestions
Thanks!
Is there any better JUST for pvp?
chrome panther
dreambinder.
stiff zodiac
Is it miles ahead of boat in pvp?
oblique wharf
Its arguable
chrome panther
its better in arena
oblique wharf
Some top boomies on ladder have been using boat
chrome panther
because they pve also lul
chrome panther
235 boat > 210 binder
stiff zodiac
In just doing arena
oblique wharf
He uses boat
stiff zodiac
In BG at all
oblique wharf
Boat is good if you play around it
And i think has merit in certain comps
Dreambinder is much more consistent
vast vapor
boat just gives shorter kill windows
oblique wharf
If you play comps where you are the focus target, can be annoying to get casts off to consistently enter eclipse
stiff zodiac
And if i wanna do both pvp and pve i should Go boat right
oblique wharf
Pretty much yes
stiff zodiac
Boat is probably huge with convoke Right?
vast vapor
yes
stiff zodiac
Thanks!
clear pulsar
Root beam > vortex > convoke
With the 90% slow on top of vortex it's always a kill bro trust
oblique panther
as a balance how do i even kill a monk with hpala
queen copper
Kill the hpal then kill monk without hpal
oblique panther
ok so focus on healers in arena when fighting a monk
cold spear
Convoke will get nerfed once pvp balance patch comes out
tepid spoke
Yes nerfed as in buffed
oblique panther
how can it get nerfed its so trash up to 1800s
stable otter
how do i make sure convoke doesn’t just spam 16 heal spells?
tepid spoke
Be in moonkin
clear pulsar
Convoke isn't trash in any rating, I also wouldn't hold my breath for a pvp tuning patch
I think at this point they'll just let the meta play out the way it is until 9.1
tepid spoke
Yup
Convoke isnt trash but it defo isnt a 100% win condition spell tbh
Like a lot of ppl think it is
forest kite
too many ways to shut it down from totems, pets, immunities, and nevermind all the various cc and interrupts
i really want to switch to kyrian or go feral idk anymore, but i'm trash as a boomy
tepid spoke
I would 100% switch kyrian but im fuked cuz i pve too
oblique panther
same
blissful belfry
All these non boomy players going reet mode sayin convoke is free 2100
queen copper
Does Gladys include option to disable the blizz frames? I know Elvui and other do
exotic wolf
afaik no
forest kite
thx
rapid hazel
isn’t the cyclone change a huuuge buff to convoke?
surreal loom
Is FMP worth running or is FMPal just a lot better? Seems like FMP the mage wouldn't get to play nearly as much
weak hinge
@rapid hazel well It now breaks rootbeam ...
surreal loom
Cyclone change is a nerf, in a lot of situations, it breaks root beam, it breaks roots, it breaks poly, it breaks fear
weak hinge
I don’t think it breaks Poly
rapid hazel
hmm okay nvm XD
surreal loom
? Poly breaks on damage why wouldn't it?
weak hinge
Badly worded by blizz
rapid hazel
just thought of 2v2 situations
weak hinge
Should only break cc that breaks on dmg breakpoint. Like roots and fear
rapid hazel
Get a cyclone on heal probably hodge the dd an incarn convoke
weak hinge
Rootbeam is easier to get out than clone @rapid hazel
queen copper
? Poly breaks on damage why wouldn't it?
only breaks root and entangle
to stop the droolers who root and ask why convoke just heals for sure
surreal loom
will no longer ignore targets affected by crowd control abilities that break on damage, such as Entangling Roots or Mass Entanglement.
crowd control abilties that break on damage
SUCH AS roots
It does NOT say "will not longer ignore targets affected by roots and mass entangle"
loud wedge
This guy is right
So now double boomie hpal is meta
Double cyclone - hammer convoke
clear pulsar
No no no
loud wedge
Whaaz gonna win tournament
loud wedge
I mean, safer with 1
clear pulsar
I think Wildcard wins tourney
clear pulsar
They have spr ele boomie mage arms
loud wedge
Ouf
loud wedge
Wondering how melee cleave will work out
Hvnt seen alot of 3k+ stream, but i have watched trill a bit... But hes so overgeared
loud wedge
Wierd how they didnt touch fire mage
clear pulsar
I'm ok with no changes
loud wedge
Resto druid will get stronger with a slow meta right?
harsh sinew
can someone link the class changes?
last basin
harsh sinew
thanks
exotic wolf
Resto druid will get stronger with a slow meta right?
not slow per se. but if burst isn't as strong and fast as it is now then our hots actually do something again.
You can't hotheal someone that gets 100-0 in a combust/wings/convoke/incarn etc
or if healthpools, endurance conduits can ease some of the instant dmg
last basin
is it though? it doesnt say specifically those two spells, it says "Such as"
exotic wolf
you need to position so convoke funnels only in healer
but it's true. if sheeps, paralysis etc gets broken as well its hard
lethal hinge
Wasn't sheeps getting broken before?
bronze dagger
The convoke change is interesting
exotic wolf
I mean, if you play something like ww/boomy/healer the clone change opens up some nice stuff
you couldn't clone healer and convoke off of it cause clone got targeted
bronze dagger
I feel like now the worst scenario is getting the beamsnare broken
and then again it can be a full moon that breaks it which can lead to a surprise kill on the healer
not the worst imo
last basin
i like that we dont hit cyclones like crazy now
if only it would prioritize players too instead of every fucking unholy pet
twin tapir
and the rare demo lock
bronze dagger
demo lock is annoying, so many targets..
split pollen
i heard boomy is a meta fc in rbg with HOTW lego. anyone know anything about that or how it compares to using barkskin lego?
lime light
Nerf demo
last basin
glyph knows dis stuff
bronze dagger
I'm going to craft timeweave because of the 37 long eclipse makes BOAT not worth it in arena imo
lethal hinge
Isn't guardian a better FC cuz of the cc immune legendary
edgy shale
that man answers the same question all day, leave him alone lol
split pollen
idk i was getting global'd as guardian in bear form in like .6-.8s but granted it was vs 10/10m players and i don't have much xp as fc
@edgy shale is it this question? lol i could search for his name if he's answered it before
edgy shale
yes, this question. idk if he's specifically addressed the leggo question, but he's talked about boomy FC like twice a day for the last month
split pollen
kk ty
edgy shale
usually quite angrily cuz he's itred of getting asked the same thing lool
split pollen
aww 
do i just massively kite? i was literally getting global'd when they were on me
loud wedge
Is convoke in bear Worth it?
split pollen
do i even leave my healers behind to kite? sorry i'm new to fc
forest kite
Hey guys,
I really love stellar drift talent, is there a way to make it work in pvp or starfall is really garbage ?
surreal heron
Is convoke in bear Worth it?
it's not the best damage wise, but i imagine being caught out of bear form isn't great
split pollen
and when should you be using cc immune berserk?
loud wedge
Either on your way through team, or when getting ganked in room
When both teams are attacking fc
split pollen
ya i know it's not that simple just trying to get an idea of what to aim for. i was getting rekt lol
surreal heron
seem like something one would need to decide on the fly
loud wedge
You need to use it preemtivly though right?
Or can u use it as second trink
Understandable you being snarky sometimes when you answer 700 questions a day on the same discord
edgy shale
you are a true glutton for punishment. But you hold that for the good of the community. gotta respect it
lol
loud wedge
Hahaha yeah i was actually thinking about exactly that comment when i read notes
quaint plinth
bitter harness
in RBGs it might be
loud wedge
Huge buff in 2s
Root beam is easly countered though
Dispell, freedom etc
That sounds so broke
bitter harness
is it worth running this for the execute? or just go pvp trinket set
loud wedge
@vestal citrus you have any idea how the assa and frost buffs are gonna affect speccs? Do they even matter?
balmy sparrow
Convoke buffs 😕
loud wedge
Kick reduction? I have not read enough on other classes
Ouuf
Do you ever use vortex beam?
Incqp for setups and frenzied?
hushed pivot
What venthry change?
sand spade
Will Convoke not hit pally in bubble now?
bitter harness
instructions unclear going venthyr
hushed pivot
Ah
vague mural
im sure this has already been asked but on reset for nightfae feral are we gonna run the new soulbind in arena or nah?
lime light
@vestal citrus yo homie
is twisting corridor open only this week and X next week?
thanks for your services
edgy shale
im sure this has already been asked but on reset for nightfae feral are we gonna...
the final part of that soulbind seems insane for arena
primal bane
nuff
edgy shale
25% crit for 5 seconds
lime light
feral buff
vague mural
the final part of that soulbind seems insane for arena
true so maybe not right away but once we hit the required renown
primal bane
so can convoke break frost trap and such now?
hollow vale
no idea cos blizzard cant speak english apparently
edgy shale
yeah, altho the increased damage on high hp targets sounds good for arena too
since ppl are topped off a lot
vague mural
if it does fmp and jungle has to be really careful
thats true, and your opening bite may be thicc too
eager lake
Little pvp question, how do you guys usually play around comps who have shit tons of kicks/who can nature lock you or pretty much interrupt every casts while being on your face 24/7? Do you hold onto your convoke for as long as possible? Do you try to pop it as early as possible? Let them throw themselves on your teammate? (I mostly play in 2s but interested as to how you would approach it in 3s as well)
exotic wolf
I don't really like playing boomy in 2s but just eat up kicks with clone, heals and look if they kick
but if they know you have convoke they won't kick everything you got
also depends on your partner
eager lake
Thanks I’ll try 3s then!
fallen folio
how can you kill a DK PALA or DK + ANYTHING?
loud wedge
Watch a dk stream where he gets shit on by a balance - implememt
Wouldnt watch mes too much though.. He played for wayy too long
edgy shale
i always thought dks were pretty squishy
loud wedge
They are
lime light
they are sqish to physical dmg
devout frost
imagine buffing convoke
to many ppl complained that they had pay a single thought to the ability i guess
lavish blaze
Im pretty new to boomy 3s, what am i able to do when i get hard trained entire game, p much if i leave bear i die, I.E against arms/ret etc? I feel pretty useless for the entire game eventho im a giga meatshield
and what are some good comps with boomy?
sacred wing
this convoke change reads kind of good to me, makes mass entangle viable now as a setup for getting distance into a convoke.. or cloning off target which will be ignored now into rootbeam focus on caster/healer focus for convoke burst?
quiet atlas
Yes it is a good thing. A well needed buff
devout frost
this convoke change reads kind of good to me, makes mass entangle viable now as ...
buff for pvp, nerf for everything else
makes the ability even more of a crutch though which can be dangerous
runic narwhal
What legendary do we use for pvp
edgy shale
4 specs use this channel so idk who we is
runic narwhal
Feral
lime light
symmetry
fervent gull
I like this one
coral marten
been thinking about going changing covenants just because I'm so annoyed with convoke getting interrupted every time I use it
cold spear
The convoke change wasn't even for pvp and people acting like it is. It's hilarious
lime light
no longet attempts to cast spells at targets affected by cyclone
pve CHANGE BOIS
full clone the mob
lets gooooooooooooo
coral marten
like, sure, great, you can get kills. but if it's so easy to int and everyone is so hyper aware of it that you can never get it off unless someone has popped aura mastery and bopped you?
loud wedge
Still stunable then though?
coral marten
true
fervent gull
Only for pve? Fml, I actually thought i could benefit from this one finally
fervent gull
The convoke change wasn't even for pvp and people acting like it is. It's hilari...
How do you know then? 🤔
cold spear
Alot of mythic raiders complained about 2nd boss when the bears have to be CC'd so this change solves that problem. I believe there might be another encounter too. I don't mythic raid so idk
summer oasis
does that mean it will break poly?
fervent gull
Convoke wasnt breaking bears cc unless there was a starfall hitting them b4 the cc
Thats not changing
cold spear
After this pvp tournament there will most likely be a pvp focused balance patch. Alot of classes after weak and some are too strong.
fervent gull
So you actually dont know for what is the change and you cracked a laugh
Indeed, hilarious
cold spear
If you look at the comments in the forums, all the raiders are praising it
fervent gull
I am a raider and i am well aware of the situation
Hardly a change that affects the fight tbh
devout frost
After this pvp tournament there will most likely be a pvp focused balance patch....
only healers need changes for now
half the healing specs dont even get to play
while few dps specs are unviable
cold spear
Yep, MW need alot help in pvp, highly unrepresented class. Just waiting on pvp patch
devout frost
they'll get it
just like they have for the past 3 expansions
suck in first patch > get extremely overtuned buff to MW kit > become the best healer in the game over night > repeat
bitter harness
i yoinked your avatar and turned it into an emote
dusty needle
convoked buffed lul
bitter harness
kek
lime light
Affi is bad btw
bitter harness
where's that random warlock
strange ibex
is there a minimum of haste i should have as feral in pvp?
small storm
n o
stone nest
My buddies are telling me just go tree in threes and then they die when it’s not up. Feel like I don’t have enough buttons to keep up.
Think im sticking to 2s
loud wedge
Tree is powerfull, but you are useless after the 30 sec are up
glad hinge
dreambinder or boat for pumping as boomkin in rbg?
loud wedge
Both
dusty needle
boat for rbgs
bitter harness
for those groups that purely focus on the damage meters
boomie we made you defend a base for the entire game but your damage was too low so we kick you
ooooookaaaaaaay
loud wedge
Lmao starfall rbg meta
How to peak on 1100 cr
Got kicked from a group because convoke procced starfall, and someone has read starfall is a no no in rbg
Now thats a 5head
tardy hare
bitter harness
people are so fucking stupid
i was in a group that was very messy and unorganised
and my damage was low so I got kicked
That person was 100 rating ahead of me at the time, I have gained 250 rating after he kicked me. Maybe I should thank him
loud wedge
Anyone know how mind games works on hots already present?
Like i overgrowth a target into instant mindgames
bronze dagger
good question, I wonder if they turn from hots to dots 😛
ashen smelt
Pretty sure it damages you
bronze dagger
just find a spriest in durotar, ask him to mindgames and you will quickly find out
loud wedge
So you should have a cancelaura macro when playing with a resto?
Or let them run for 6 sec
stone nest
If you have fat hots out. It’s big hurt time.
exotic wolf
afaik it has a dmg cap
so your healing is not doing damge the complete time mindgames is on you
candid moth
people are so fucking stupid
there are a shitton of people in rbg on 2.3+ who cant get over 1.6 in arena, its inflated as fk with people whose ego is over the top
stone nest
You can nature swiftness through it most the time
haughty compass
I got denied a high xp group because my 2400 achievement was “too old” bro
stone nest
I mean how old is too old
haughty compass
You can’t re-get achievements lol
meager flicker
does it take long to get to 2100 in rbgs with decent winrate?
loud wedge
Need to constantly make alts to get New achieve
livid wasp
is my hunter holding us back by playing BM in jungle
is it really much worse than mm or surv
haughty compass
Yea
loud wedge
Prob wrong discord to ask
bitter harness
I just saw the balance druid pvp guide on IV and the recommendations on there seem very different
👀
loud wedge
Go necro
bitter harness
circle of life and death 
loud wedge
Pog
agile dagger
anyone running arms, boomy, rsham at 2400+ atm?
haughty compass
I do disc at 1900 :/
candid moth
bitter harness
dang
pallid coral
or swipe
candid moth
I'll add some full moons and Thrash's then
bitter harness
whole jewel
anyone know the best way how to start pvp as a balance druid? I get popped instantly without getting off 1 spell
candid moth
maybe FullMoon followed by Starsurge just to trigger PTSD from people who got oneshotted by convoke
candid moth
anyone know the best way how to start pvp as a balance druid? I get popped insta...
get some vers, check for right talents, get the frenzied regen conduit
you are quite tanky as boomkin
whole jewel
maybe i have bad gear now since i just got killed by a rogue in 0.5 seconds when coming out of stealth
candid moth
probably
forest kite
i have 20% vers and still get nuked into orbit
candid moth
cant complain as 150 against 220 rogues
forest kite
idk, with bear, barkskin, and renewal i can still get nuked if the other dps fire everything without me getting any peel or cc help
i'm still trying to figure out what to do too
candid moth
thats just how the meta is
bitter harness
rogues are scary
candid moth
if you are 1vs3 with them nuking all their cds on you
primal bane
what do sustained dps classes have to offer in pvp
like why is arms warr S tier when burst classes like fire mage
indigo forum
You should get help from your partners
primal bane
can do 50k dmg almost in the same second
candid moth
like why is arms warr S tier when burst classes like fire mage
because arms does force cds without using cds
finite turret
Arms is d shit, as rdruid the freedom they create for you is unbeliveable
candid moth
na
indigo forum
Ive had most trouble with fire mage
candid moth
yeah Fire mage is SSS Tier
now that they are so tanky with their shield legendary and alter-time
primal bane
but idk why MM is regardedas even decent
forest kite
im thinking of just rerolling a rogue or something
i have a lot of trouble as a boomy
indigo forum
When i recently hit 2.1k i see them every game, haunts me
candid moth
rerolling for what? For a number in your statistics/achievements?
primal bane
rogue is also fun tho
forest kite
i just feel lost as a boomy
primal bane
id get me a rogue to 60 if i had that kind of willpower of levelling alts
forest kite
i mained resto forever but switched to boomy this expac
primal bane
idk how other players do it, i thought it would be fun but being so slow and mashing same 1 button for 40 levels is getting on my nerves
forest kite
the burst meta and mind games from priests make playing Rdruid hell
candid moth
Its kinda simple as boomy, you peel/survive and at your go's you shoot 3 Starsurges and rootbeam
primal bane
biggest issue in pvp is if you dont know every class in the match including your team
you never really understand why you lose/win
forest kite
do you open cyclone?
primal bane
fuck no insta kick easy
rootbeam opener is unbeatable
or was until now convoke can break rootbeam
chrome kestrel
incap into clone works for me but more 2sy
forest kite
yea when i've been doing incap into clones on healers in 3s i get zerg rushed lately
primal bane
yeah i dont get how i lose to people who kick wraths and trinket roars
feel like just these 2 mistakes alone
should be hugely punished by my team
forest kite
it's probably a lot better to be kyrian boomy right?
primal bane
its worse until like 2k
haughty compass
It’s easier to get DMG off against good players
primal bane
you get very consistent value out of convoke unless you always open with it
cojnvoke opener is not really realistic regardless of what redditors say
i only open convoke vs ooga booga melees who rush before their team has los on me
so i just squash them in 2 seconds
forest kite
only time i do a convoke opener is in 2s anymore with proper setup with a rogue
primal bane
thats like
every game then lmao
rogue has very easy and consistent convoke set ups
chrome kestrel
love convoking double pallies after theyve run around like idiots and used all their cds
never gets old
primal bane
bro i hunt healer pallys like
chrome kestrel
i really need people to play 3s with, 2s is giving me an ego
primal bane
the second their team engages and healer pally is in the back
instant solo convoke
i feel like 2s would be more fun for me but for some reason i cant get myself to try it
chrome kestrel
just do it and double kill people
primal bane
feels like if i dont have people to split the focus idk how ill get dmg out as boomie
summer oasis
as boomy what talents / honor talents help vs rmp?
primal bane
FAERIE SWARM
chrome kestrel
I find my window of opportunity come after theyve given up on me in bear form
primal bane
instantly disarm rogue opener
chrome kestrel
soon as their focus drops a bit you laser em
primal bane
disarm rogue, cyc fire
dusty needle
you disarm the rogue shadowblades and clone the mage with high winds
thick minnow
dang i can finally mass deep roots convoke kids
thick minnow
nice
dusty needle
high winds vs rmp if you can get a clone off on someone its good
forest kite
are we using timeworn binder legendary for pvp?
primal bane
y
chrome kestrel
im using boat lol
dusty needle
or boat if you are not a loser
dusty needle
losers use dreambinder dude real legends use boat
forest kite
lol
primal bane
boat is better depending on how you look at it
forest kite
the top 50 balance druids are split 17 dreambinders and 16 boat for tthe top 2
primal bane
boat is top tier pve, simple investment, strong and more fun with incarn
dusty needle
high roll city
primal bane
exactly sustain
bleak wigeon
Kyrian favora dream inder while NF can get full convoke during boat uptime
chrome kestrel
boat also very easy to obtain for fotm alt rerolls which is so many boomkins rn
dusty needle
you get that full moon crit and its lights out dude
primal bane
if we wanted to actually win kyrian would not be like less than 5% of all boomies
dusty needle
^
kyrian with dreambinder is what the sweaty nerds play
but nf with boat is way more fun
primal bane
im trying my best to not undermine boomie but why is it fotm when ele sham and fire mage exist
summer oasis
thx for answers
dusty needle
and NF just got buffed
primal bane
how??
last jackal
what changed with NF?
dusty needle
it no longer targets clones
primal bane
yeah but u can no longer rootbeam>convoke opener
chrome kestrel
you can it just hits them right?
primal bane
yes thats an issue
dusty needle
thats not really that big of a deal anyway
primal bane
when damage splits u dont kill as fast
chrome kestrel
the beam should still give you a tiny window
full moon starsurge should end someone anyway
by the time the roots broken, they are still in the beam
dusty needle
you can still get a good bit of the channel off with root beam anyway
even if your spells break the beam
agile dagger
I honestly feel like rootbeam is just lack luster most games in this meta
with ww and ret most games
dusty needle
even though its hitting rooted targets
primal bane
lmao
dusty needle
the damage is no longer wasted
chrome kestrel
its good you just dont play it into every comp
dusty needle
dont queue with a rogue
primal bane
then guess what, u trinket that to get blinded
dusty needle
we are going full FOTM cancer bro
holy pally aff lock boomy
for maximum pve gameplay
agile dagger
yea I mean I simped myself to 2400 playing boomy war rsham
forced to play bash 80% of the time
primal bane
i dont win with convoke strats they have no idea when to do anything
dusty needle
i mean once you get to a certain cr you can go into lfg
like if ur 2200ish cr you can hop in lfg and find decent people
primal bane
destro lock very underrated
i like it more than affli
with affli u need to build up zzzz
destro one shot buddy
dusty needle
a lot of my partners are from lfg you just look for glad xp and ur good
primal bane
yeah i was thinking to just lie further and say im 2.4k exp
i already tell people im 2k which is not true iether
primal bane
nah after i play a couple of games they tell me they saw i have no exp
dusty needle
if you dont have xp you have to grind
primal bane
but they keep playing bc they like how i play
oh u mean that?
dw i gave up a long time ago i just get 1.8k and stop
dusty needle
you have to queue with window licking mouthbreathers
primal bane
its impossible to grind exp
lusty locust
Hey guys ! So I have 3 legendary rn, Boat and Ursoc for PVE purpose, and Verdant for heal PvP. I can craft another one and I was hesitating between Oath and Order will.
dusty needle
idk man i started pvping in season 1 of bfa and i got glad the same season
primal bane
all paladins
that died on start up
like 5 seconds in
i would understand any other healer
but PALADIN???????????
dusty needle
i played boomkin/dh and got 2500 my first season pvping
just play some op comp and grind it
ull be fine
dusty needle
kfc sucks bro
primal bane
i even get hunters w/ me asking if i play feral
dusty needle
hunters are garbage dude
primal bane
i know but the point is
dusty needle
also dont play hard comps
primal bane
nobody plays boomie for some reason
lusty locust
Any advice ? Oath or Natural order will ?
dusty needle
boomkins have access to a bunch of braindead comps
just play the braindead boomkin comps
primal bane
which are those??
lusty locust
get boat or dreambinder
I'm playing resto ...
dusty needle
like owlplay or ele/boomkin
rancid sundial
Go on
dusty needle
owlplay ele/boomkin boomy/aff lock are all "pve" comps which means you just do big damage and win from that
primal bane
@dusty needle are you down to play a skirmish with me and give me a halfassed review of how i play
primal bane
just say no bruh u got glad
dusty needle
yea but thats not much
rancid sundial
Are those 3s with insert healer here or 2s?
dusty needle
im a bfa glad dude its not that good
primal bane
thats the maximum ranking
dusty needle
no its not even close
primal bane
most people are lucky to have glad exp from the last decade lol
dusty needle
my peak rating is like 900 points below being actually good
topaz spruce
Are those 3s with insert healer here or 2s?
Yes 3s
primal bane
there aint even 3.1k players on the #1 spot leaderboard tf u saying
dusty needle
you want to only queue with a holy pally or rsham
queue with nothing but hpal or rsham
and play pve comps
gg ez 2.1k
dusty needle
owplay is not my favorite
owlplay is really tanky but it has less damage than boomy/aff lock
primal bane
yeah i dont dig that
dusty needle
owlplay is much more of a dampening comp which is not really the meta rn
primal bane
tell me ur top 3 comps
dusty needle
boomy/aff lock is probably my favorite comp right now
rancid sundial
I did spriest rsham yest actually and it felt way easier than other stuff I've tried. I've tried ele+hpal but I'm pretty sure my teammates were bade
dusty needle
its the thing that protects your dots
so you do a lot more damage
i have been playing boomy/aff/hpal and im 2200 cr right now
its definitely my favorite comp
owlplay is not bad but it has a less damage but its more tanky
queueing with melee is not really my favorite right now because you just get tunneled
woven hinge
Yooo guys I made balance alt, most for pvp, some advice for use convoke and not be kicked instant ? I don’t wanna play kyrian because already play it with main
dusty needle
caster/melee the caster gets tunneled its kinda tilting
double caster is much more fun to play
primal bane
YESS
i hate this shit so much
sitting bear form
and getting like
3 seconds every 1 minute
of owl form
dusty needle
well you do a lot of sitting in bear form as a boomy
dusty needle
well the main thing is people respect ur clones
primal bane
yes but when ur only caster its non-stop
dusty needle
so they tunnel you
even though boomkins are super tanky they still get tunneled to stop your cc
primal bane
u EU?
dusty needle
because if the boomkin can free cast clones its gg
no im NA
and like i said man im just a pleb
primal bane
this is like
dusty needle
if you want to know like how to actually play you need to go talk to some rank 1 gamers
primal bane
the only down to earth convo i had here
dusty needle
im just some bfa pleb man
primal bane
same
started playing bfa
ngl i actually liked teh game
but the hate was overwhelming
dusty needle
i played for years but i didnt start pvping until bfa
primal bane
i could not hear one bgood thing about the game it was impossible to have fun
also im alliance and i liked war mode
woven hinge
Guys some advice for use convoke and not be kicked instant ? As boomie
dusty needle
bait their kicks
primal bane
playing warmode ally before the overhwelming numbers quests got added was not fun
dusty needle
or play with a holy pally
so he can devo
or bait their kicks
or wait for them to be stunned or something
finite turret
or bait their kicks
i find it difficult to know when they used their kicks, do you have an addon that tracks something like that ?
dusty needle
use omnicc
woven hinge
Holy pala can made other cast unkickable too?
woven hinge
Oh this is great
woven hinge
Yeah I have omnibar, I ll try
woven hinge
Ok I have both
primal bane
gladius would be 10 times better addon
woven hinge
For bgs is more tricky
woven hinge
Usually I go behind and use it
woven hinge
Yea sarena best
dusty needle
its more customization too
in sarena
you can get it to look cleaner
than gladius
also you should learn how to use weakauras
weakauras is the best addon in the game by far
you can track literally everything with weakauras
bitter harness
and I made this one for healers, it shows when any friendly target in your group has Mindgames on them https://wago.io/6lBSUpHJR
dusty needle
not a single nerf in the patch notes
hollow vale
does grounding totem always absorb a whole convoke?
hollow vale
why 😦
dusty needle
because thats how grounding totem works
hollow vale
wait how does it work now?thought it absorbed one spell
dusty needle
it absorbed an amount of damage
or cc
its complicated but it can sometimes absorb more than one spell
unless you single target it
hollow vale
is that intended
dusty needle
then it dies when you single target it
hollow vale
that it can absorb more than one spell?
dusty needle
yes
it dies instantly if you single target it though
it has 5 hp
like all other totems
if you single target it it instantly dies
dusty needle
only totem with more than 5 hp is earthen wall totem
bitter harness
this is useful imo
shows when someone is immune / grounding totem is up
and other stuff
patent dove
Grounding totem will absorb spells for 3sec after triggering. You need to kill it in order to prevent it from absorbing them all
loud wedge
Yeah can absorb almost a full convoke
blissful belfry
never convoke if grounding isnt on cooldown
unless sham is hard cc'ed and no trinket
lusty locust
So you guys think I'm trolling if I craft Oath of Elder Druid for resto 2s ?
sacred dagger
what interrupts i get from boomkim? only beam?
bitter harness
only beam and other CCs
like mighty bash / typhoon / incap roar (guardian affinity) / cyclone
primal bane
i think youre trolling if u play resto in the most burst focused meta pvp has ever seen
i only see it work if ur a god at cyclone usage
bitter harness
that's why I swapped to balance in RBGs 
against unorganised groups that don't TC it's fine
but I suppose resto can be really lacking against better groups
primal bane
lean hill
gotta get that 212 fury
summer oasis
which conduit do people use in arena for boomy?
vast vapor
would u play bash into rmp as balance/x/x, or does it depend on your comp?
I feel like rmps are the only hard comp and would gain so much mmr beating them
devout frost
which conduit do people use in arena for boomy?
wellhoned instincts
blissful belfry
I pushed 2100 as resto 2 weeks ago, and now i cant win a game tanked to 1999 and cant get it back. Ima try to get it as boomy i guess. (its my main spec, but never had a healer, but resto is so trash)
vast vapor
someone here a bit earlier told about disarming rogues on opener, do ppl actually talent faerie swarm against them? also if you pick disarm and high winds do you lose celestial guardian or moonkin aura
blissful belfry
Never heard about boomy taking that dispellable disarm
devout frost
someone here a bit earlier told about disarming rogues on opener, do ppl actuall...
wouldnt u want thorns over high winds against a rogue
faeire would only be worth vs a 2s comp with no dispell
vast vapor
depends prolly if u play with a melee or not, I dont like it against mages so much
devout frost
RMP can just dispell it
blissful belfry
yeah, any comp with a prot pal as healer you can disarm i guess
vast vapor
not sure if its still worth to take thorns?
primal glacier
You say that as if dispel doesn’t have a cooldown. Disarming rogue when he goes to triple cheap shot is big brain
primal glacier
Depends what comp you play I guess
vast vapor
nobody plays the disarm tho so why would they
also if I rootbeam mage and disarm rogue on opener
lean hill
someone here a bit earlier told about disarming rogues on opener, do ppl actuall...
i 100% do and its the only way i survive
vast vapor
what is the priest gonna do
blissful belfry
yeah, well, if its 2s against rogue mage, you can disarm yeah, they cant dispell it
river finch
i play with aff lock often, any way for their dots to show up on my name plates?
vast vapor
with affli it would be sick to play disarm
blissful belfry
To stop rogue mage i usually use incap roar into clone or incap roar into war stomp into clone if someone breaks the incap
lean hill
I use disarm on monks warriors and rogues
oblique wharf
They cant dispel if they are in cc
oblique wharf
Root beam healer, disarm rogue, switches the pressure real quick
vast vapor
rogue just cloaks there pretty often I think
blissful belfry
With rmp i just rootbeam the combust
oblique wharf
Thats a free cloak then
blissful belfry
honestly
vast vapor
yeah
oblique wharf
Its best if you dont have to root beam combust, but sometimes necessary
blissful belfry
You wont die if mage never combusts
Root beam can line on pretty much every combust
vast vapor
the real struggle for me against rmp is to get time to do damage myself because they just insta run and reset after opener and the hell begins again
lean hill
Does anyone elses Root Beam macro mess up a lot this patch?
vast vapor
I mean if rogue gets reset you have no help from rootbeam to combust
lean hill
and if not can i get yours?
vast vapor
because youre gonna get stunned before their opener always
oblique wharf
Ppl use a root beam macro?
vast vapor
I do
oblique wharf
That seems hindering
blissful belfry
do you let rogues reset that easily in 3s?
lean hill
people DONT use a macro???
vast vapor
no problems, only way to mess it is if youre out of range for roots
devout frost
Does anyone elses Root Beam macro mess up a lot this patch?
dont use a root/beam macro
oblique wharf
I have a focus mass entangle and focus beam right next to each other
primal bane
isnt this like the worst thing to ever exist?
oblique wharf
Separate binds but easy to press in unison
devout frost
how are u gonna root off targets with a root/beam macro
primal bane
3k dmg over 30 seconds thats like 100 damage
devout frost
isnt this like the worst thing to ever exist?
hence why you dont pick it?
primal bane
but i mean how did it leave beta testing
oblique wharf
Burrs are OP
devout frost
then what is the point of root/beam macro if you already have root bound?
primal bane
even 100% uptime it still looks very bad
lean hill
i already have beam bound too
vast vapor
do you let rogues reset that easily in 3s?
I mean how do you stop them, run as cat behind them and hit shred?
lean hill
but sometimes i wanna react really fast with root beam
vast vapor
dots dont break stealth
devout frost
but i mean how did it leave beta testing
because there are more classes in the game than just druids?
oblique wharf
dots dont break stealth
What
primal bane
why u getting so attacked over basic ass conversations man
blissful belfry
I mean how do you stop them, run as cat behind them and hit shred?
If he has dots on and no cloak, he cant really stealth much, and if you are in 3s, you have a friend dps too, you can take sides
vast vapor
yes rogues have new cool conduit which disables dots from breaking stealth
devout frost
but sometimes i wanna react really fast with root beam
root/beam in macro takes as many button presses as seperate buttons
oblique wharf
Its still dumb imo
vast vapor
yeah I like to have ALSO macro for combined rootbeam
blissful belfry
The main problem with rootbeam macro is when you press it too quick after a gcd and beam is ready but not root
lean hill
thats cool but i never asked if you thought it was dumb
i just asked if anyone had a problem lol
ty for input tho
oblique wharf
Well if you didnt use it you wouldnt have a problem
vast vapor
yeah only problems are if u use it before global ends or out of range for massroot
oblique wharf
Trying to solve your problem
vast vapor
its not reformed
kicks are not on gcd
you can even solarbeam+incarn+convoke from stealth with one press
lean hill
^
lean hill
i use it a lot on RBG too
lean hill
thats probably how i mess it up tbh
blissful belfry
yeah, range and gcd are the main rootbeam macro fuck ups
followed by root dr when you play with a shammy
crude minnow
If you arent careful in rbgs, youll beam before root allllllllll of the time
clear pulsar
Bro it's wild how much yall CAP bitching about rdru
primal bane
still huge
daring sparrow
Where can I find a Weak Aura that show when I can Prowl (out of combat) to avoid looking at my prowl spell (if it's usable)
oblique wharf
the main fck up is having one macro do both
clear pulsar
Purely git gud issues
crude minnow
git gud issues is why most people are here lmao
primal bane
well rootbeam macro is more of a qol so u can always drop it if it fucks up your gameplay
oblique wharf
sounds like a shit qol if they're two spells with different ranges and cds
crude minnow
Also sometimes you want to root without beam.
primal bane
thats normal
look at pvp players
having 4 cyclones on their cast bars
think dumber not harder
blissful belfry
It's crazy how people reroll immediately when a spec requires you to play well
I mean, im a main boomy. I was playing resto off spec with shit gear cuz i have no healer friends. But with my skills as a resto druid combined with its current viability, i'd rather just go back to boom
devout frost
Poggies
primal bane
na got reset?
devout frost
Bro it's wild how much yall CAP bitching about rdru
rdruid had a higher skillfloor than havoc, why is this spec so shit?
clear pulsar
devout frost
dusty needle
the high rated druids
are saying convoke was buffed btw
even though they made it hit roots and polies
primal bane
i mean its true highkey
dusty needle
the change to cyclone is a buff
oblique wharf
yeh i would say so
wanton parcel
Ofc it’s a buff
primal bane
high rated druids clone a lot and very well, and cyc is a convoke set up much stronger than rootbeam when used well
dusty needle
well its a change right so its not easy to tell
wanton parcel
Especially in 2s
devout frost
make crutch even bigger so ppl cry harder when it gets nerfed
dusty needle
i mean convoke has a lot of counter play
devout frost
i mean convoke has a lot of counter play
yes
dusty needle
the only nerfs i can see are like % damage reduction from the spells in pvp for convoke
like the spells from convoke do 30% reduced damage in pvp or something like that
i think thats reasonable
primal bane
counterplay this
devout frost
worse players cant abuse that counter play
and they are the majority of the playerbase
crude minnow
The obvious convoke nerf is changing full moon to not cast in first 2s.
open orbit
yo r dudu here about to open vault. is it better to pick other loot spec to avoid most of the weapons?
devout frost
convoke would see nerfs because of PVE aswell
crude minnow
for pvp
dusty needle
i mean its really easy to counter play which is why it will see no play at the highest levels
devout frost
so not only pvp
crude minnow
idk convoke damage nerfed by 10% or some shit would do nothing in pvp
no change prettymuch
crude minnow
Yeah rng is the clear fix
primal bane
thats right ANNIHILATE the fun
devout frost
and will make people relying on it fall a lot in rating when it gets nerfed
blissful belfry
counterplay this
iM STEALING THIS
primal bane
you should i stole it too
clear pulsar
yo r dudu here about to open vault. is it better to pick other loot spec to avoi...
Do you already have weapons!?
open orbit
have it already!
clear pulsar
I mean you're only replacing the chance to get int weapon with the chance to get an agi weapon
Doesn't really change anything
blissful belfry
I was testing out with a friend hpal if he can heal through convoke. Only way to survive is to have a pre-triple stack of holy light dr (15%) + wall + aura mastery + wings and spam heal. And no moon
crude minnow
that could be the case
oblique wharf
stygia gang
hardy cargo
yo r dudu here about to open vault. is it better to pick other loot spec to avoi...
The only real change is weapon stat and trinkets(in pve areas)
devout frost
matters depending on covenant in pvp @hardy cargo
clear pulsar
Yes
devout frost
do you always link with yourself as kyrian?
always yourself
placid mirage
Idk how people were root beam convoking in opener most of the time anyways and actually getting kills, usually there's some kind of ranged cc or interrupt they are holding for u especially off the rip
reef cedar
range and los
hexed flower
for resto druid, is verdant infusion the safer choice for pvp? I watched some mmarkers and he favors drought, but that seems like a higher rank thing.
devout frost
drought is dps
reef cedar
in some cases id have my rogue partner smoke me to avoid ranged interrupts or targeted cc's
devout frost
verdant is better in most cases
reef cedar
after setting up
placid mirage
Ya I mean I was doing repentance>convoke with partner but I think it's better I can cyclone now and just get a big one
spiral kernel
hey ferals. is there a limit i should be stacking my mastery?
astral ginkgo
Convoke buff is pog!
forest kite
ayyyy
hell yea
convoke no longer targets cycloned enemies and will hit rooted enemies. this is amazing
but at the same time, i used to use mass entangle to avoid convoke'ing army / pets
not a straight buff i guess
blissful belfry
''both my druids'' oh no. oooooh no. I couldnt do it
turbid belfry
i feel like feral frenzy makes those 2 extra combo points from eye of fearful symmetry kinda redundant
chrome kestrel
buoyant sable
Where is that convoke change listed
clear pulsar
i feel like feral frenzy makes those 2 extra combo points from eye of fearful sy...
How is it redundant, they're both on cooldowns you don't have to overlap them
Lmao
Bro
forest kite
turbid belfry
i want to use feral frenzy asap for the burst
with eye i have to hold onto it
until i get 2 finisher off
turbid belfry
i am just looking for an excuse to use cat eye because for some dumb reason i really like big energy pool
clear pulsar
Or just Rake FF Bite it's not a pve parse, it's fine to 'waste' 1 cp for time efficiency bro
Play whatever legendary you want bro
It's kinda insignificant
Just play good and you win
primal bane
heard feral leggies kinda dog
try using boat instead
be efficient with the soul ash
winter spindle
What ilvl does honour gear go up to now?
clear pulsar
197
winter spindle
Such a random number, Why didn’t they just make it 200..
reef cedar
because that devalues conquest
why get conquest unranked gear if you can jsut get honor gear
winter spindle
Because conquest gear can be upgraded to 226/233
winter spindle
It’s pvp gear...
reef cedar
for monks and DH they're bis gear