pvp

[forest kite]

Dpriest or hpal / mage / x

[clear pulsar]

I think we'll see some 10 different dps specs easily

[tiny oar]

dont think it will b any different

[forest kite]

I bet on fire mage / ele / hpal winning the tourney.

[clear pulsar]

I think ww mage will win both regions

[forest kite]

Or ww mage, not a bad call 😂

[clear pulsar]

Arms, ww, ret, feral, spr, ele, fire, boomie are guaranteed. I imagine some team plays enhance too. There will be DH and DK if Tren and Mes make it top 8, which they should. What else is there?

Hunter ofc

Lot of jungle teams

Probably only MM

[crude minnow]

Does Rsham have a place where it is ever preferred over hpal atm?

[clear pulsar]

I think Wallirikz makes top 8 easily so Aff also

[clear pulsar]

If you're Absterge

Yes

[tiny oar]

yea ceralium brain and drizzy r going to own

[forest kite]

Fact is, except for healer the meta is pretty diversified & fine

[tulip falcon]

where da RMPs

[clear pulsar]

They have prev too for some fire boomie SLAYING

[tiny oar]

yea absterge rps will prolly b solid too

[forest kite]

It's just to fast paced and gimmick

[clear pulsar]

Maybe ww boomie

[forest kite]

Boomy will play with ww or ele I think yes

[tulip falcon]

wait did whaazz get comp banned or no

[clear pulsar]

No, only Raiku and Swapxy

They're playing with Zunniyaki and Thesia

Chas Whaazz Zunni Thesia

[forest kite]

Raiku is still banned for some year I think

[tulip falcon]

i thought it was a perma

[tiny oar]

no raiku man damn that sucks hes a god

[clear pulsar]

Raiku's insane

[forest kite]

5 years if I remember correctly

[tulip falcon]

wonder if people still play this in 5 years

[forest kite]

It's not 5 years left

[clear pulsar]

But like idk bro, I think making a living out of playing the videogame is a privilege that people should take more seriously considering their public image. I think a permaban is way too much and I hope it's only a limited time suspension, but I'm not mad at Blizz suspending him for talking like that on recordings. @tiny oar

[forest kite]

5 years overall

[tulip falcon]

only been a few months hasnt it?

[forest kite]

When does AWC start? 😁

[clear pulsar]

Next weekend

[tiny oar]

yea like its understandable for the way he / others acted tbh

[forest kite]

Ooohh can't wait!!

It's enough for him to don't compete anymore yeah

[tulip falcon]

i think the thing that made people pissed off about raiku's ban is the context of it with the wintrading stuff

rather than defending what he did

[clear pulsar]

Damn Raiku and Swapxy really are indefinite suspensions

That sucks

[forest kite]

how do u pvp without being depressed all day

[tulip falcon]

you live with it

[clear pulsar]

I think it's pretty obvious that Blizz turns a blind eye to the win trading and boost selling in pvp unless you do some other bullshit elsewhere that may cause them to wanna suspend you.

[forest kite]

Every single glad/winner from blizzcon between bc and mop were wintrading at some point, ppl woke up a bit late xD

[primal bane]

@forest kite you need pvp friends

[tulip falcon]

yeah which is what i think pissed people off more about it

[forest kite]

And every single god player are boosting at some point also

friends lol 😦

It was insane during wod & legion

[clear pulsar]

Just play the game and focus on your own play and improving. If you don't enjoy playing the game, it'll never be fun and you'll always tilt or feel bad over it.

[forest kite]

Boosting plague

[clear pulsar]

It's insane right now, except now it's a lot of gold boosts taking over

But bro it's fucking wild

How normalized boosting is these days

[forest kite]

Or russian bot 🤣

[primal bane]

theyre very profitable too

[forest kite]

They are boosting on selfplay now

Mostly

[clear pulsar]

Yeah cuz glad is set rating

[primal bane]

like 10k gold to one shot someone with mage

[forest kite]

i really like rbgs, 2s are rough

[devout frost]

@clear pulsar cause blizzard encourage boosting ever since they introduced tokens into the game

[clear pulsar]

People pay 200k+ gold for 1400 to 1600 boosts.

[clear pulsar]

Yeah ofc, Idon't think people should be surprised but I guess it is what it is.

[primal bane]

i actually dig that

[devout frost]

its the same thing as jagex is doing

[primal bane]

set exact improvements of your CR make sense

but how do people get paid per win lmfao

[forest kite]

So idc a bit now but during mop/legion, you was facing multi r1 boosting 75% of the time at 2.5+

[primal bane]

do you just pay a 2k shitter 500k gold for 50 cr?

[forest kite]

Was a pain too push higher

And unfair

[tulip falcon]

i've made about 4 mil from 1800/2100 rbg boosts in 3 weeks its actually nuts how much people pay

mostly PvE dudes wanting gear

[forest kite]

Now I don't think you meet many boost once you're 2.4+

[primal bane]

@tulip falcon how that work

[forest kite]

I don't feel I am at least

[devout frost]

good old days of week 1 vendor flipping

[primal bane]

u get 9 people to boost 1 guy?

[tulip falcon]

sometimes 2-3 people at a time

[clear pulsar]

It's unfair at every bracket. Not necessarily the facing rank 1s part. That's whatever, but then you drop these 1600 people at 2.2 cr and it makes LFG a complete joke of a system.

[tulip falcon]

but ye they essentially just pay gold to join the group

[forest kite]

It's always obvious when u meet booster when u're not used to play against god player anyway xD

[primal bane]

thats p fucking nice i could buy me coldwar with rent-a-boomie marketing

[crude minnow]

@tulip falcon is that why I sometimes get stomped at 2100 by 7 people who apparently really know what they are doing with vastly varying CR's?

[tulip falcon]

most likely

[primal bane]

press convoke win on like half the RBG maps

[tulip falcon]

either that or some are playing alts

[forest kite]

Sometime you get crushed so hard, you know you're facing 3k+ player even at 1k8 cr

[primal bane]

wow pvp rankings are all kinds of messed up due to low player agency

[tulip falcon]

for example the top team on eu was dropping their mmr to 2.2 to do some boosts last week

[crude minnow]

I've been running dreambinder in rbgs recently and it makes convoke feel worse. BUT every other situation feels better

[primal bane]

but its still never been more fun to play pvp, swear idk how i did anythign in bfa pvp

always felt like i did my dps rotation until at some point the healer could not bring that player to full hp again

now 1 coordinated CC play its over

[jade gyro]

how do i get 30k bites

[crude minnow]

Too many buttadog meme people in rbgs

[forest kite]

It's just, there is a big difference between try hard player at 2.7, and pro ( who boost) able to get 3k

Like 1.8 player vs 2.7, same difference

So even if u're good, able to push 2.5+, you get crushed

[primal bane]

how do you survive the never ending blue balls of playing a caster

[barren raven]

Is it worth dropping like 16+ ilvls per piece just to get versa on my gear?

[primal bane]

everytime i read LOCKED my blood pressure rises

and a lot of match ups thats every 9 seconds

[crude minnow]

Have 3 schools

[primal bane]

i just dont get why im raising in rank but i still get my Wraths kicked

[barren raven]

Have you considered juking interrupts?

[primal bane]

i started using the non-eclipse filler so they kick it and i can enter eclipse at this point

ive tried multiple times, i once faked 4 in a row

still got it kicked

[barren raven]

Lol you must be doing it too obvious then

[primal bane]

probably, but there is no real guide on that id need someone to show it to me live

[crude minnow]

I know I sometimes try to avoid getting kicked to the point that I would've been better off just casting and swapping schools after.

[devout frost]

prob not

[primal bane]

perfect question

i have a 184 with versa+ versa on socket

[forest kite]

To be honest sometime it's just better to hardcast one school, get kicked, second school, get kicked to be free the next 10 sec

[primal bane]

vs a 200 no socket

and idk which one is better

[forest kite]

Vs double melee, you lose too much time trying to fake them

[primal bane]

if that shit happens i just press convoke

getting kicked basic abilities twice in a row feels disrespectful

like getting root spammed as a pally/dk/warrior

[forest kite]

They still can stun or shit xD

[primal bane]

no its fine ill just get full moon 2nd spell and win the game

[forest kite]

Better to ask a bop and convoke on their face.

[dire pulsar]

Is necrolord good pick for balance pvp?

[primal bane]

if i get boped convoke is absolutely unstoppble?

besides los ofc

[rigid linden]

magic interupt

magic stun

[placid mirage]

Play with prot pally and get bubbled

[forest kite]

Magic shit.

[primal bane]

does it have asmall range at least???

i played with countless holy pallys

[forest kite]

But if you are vs ww/war for exemple

[primal bane]

they never protected my convoke

[forest kite]

They can't stop you without dispelling the bop

[placid mirage]

Have them use aura.mastery not bop

Then u don't have to worry

[devout frost]

not great

meta to fast

[forest kite]

If u're vs caster, then aura mastery

[primal bane]

damn

what the fuck

[forest kite]

You still have some shit to force, but at some point you can free convoc with an hpal

Vs any comp

[primal bane]

i should really hold these shitters more accountable

need to learn what every class does

[barren raven]

Repeating my question; is it worth replacing a 200+ ilvl piece for 184 combatant gear just to gain versa?

[devout frost]

calls other people shitters
doesnt even know what other classes does

[devout frost]

i answered

[barren raven]

Oh

My bad, didnt get a ping 😄

ty

[placid mirage]

Me boomer me convoke, if no win healer is cheat

[primal bane]

and i still carry

so your point?

[forest kite]

same

idk what to do without convoke

[devout frost]

play properly?

[primal bane]

i know what to do but its so....bland

[devout frost]

instead of relying on a crutch

[placid mirage]

Spin in circles until incarn is back up

[primal bane]

press 1 and 2 on every target

if focused, bear

[devout frost]

write /dance in bear form

[primal bane]

when dd #2 says he is ready to burst

enter eclipse, press 3 3 times

[placid mirage]

@devout frost don't take crutches away from disabled people

[primal bane]

i always do council dance fight exclusively bear form

the /dance is amazing

[slow socket]

LOL

[devout frost]

soz didnt realize NF meant non-functional

[tiny oar]

HAHAHHA

[placid mirage]

My middle name

[forest kite]

Can someone teach me how to balance PVP in about 2 minutes Ute's

[primal bane]

that was p good but convoke aint no crutch youre still a boomie

[forest kite]

me to

[primal bane]

your burst combo is one spell 3 times

[devout frost]

prowl root beam ca bond foe starsurge x 5

[forest kite]

im good at kiting when im focused but do no damage when i gotta do that

[placid mirage]

It's one spell 4-5 times

[forest kite]

What about for RBGs

then get blamed

[primal bane]

using boat so typically i get done with 3

[forest kite]

Same thing?

[devout frost]

jsut go bear when ur focused

[crude minnow]

rbgs it is the same thing. spread dots, use your ccs. root/beam+cyclone healers then go for burst. Repeat

[primal bane]

@forest kite thats just your team not knowing what boomkin does

[forest kite]

yeah i bear, roar, always use my self healinhg in bear

if i die with any movement abilities up i try and change that

[devout frost]

moonfire x 45, root > beam > ca > bond > foe > starsurge x5 on called target

[vocal geyser]

guys i'm hesistating changing kyrian for nf i'm boomy

[placid mirage]

Fon is trees right

[forest kite]

No it's free wifi

[devout frost]

Fury of Neelune

[placid mirage]

If ur a consistent player with multiple neural connections u can play kyrian fine

[primal bane]

isnt kyrian just an additional 1 minute cooldown buff?

[tiny oar]

man wish i had multiple neural connections damn

[primal bane]

is there somethign im missing?

[vocal geyser]

but I see shitload of ytb video of nf people one shoting at 2.7 rating

[placid mirage]

If ur me nightfae is finr

[forest kite]

If I was going to craft a legendary that can also be used in PvE

[primal bane]

yes nurisher do you want to have fun or you want to sim 10 more dps?

[placid mirage]

People who are oneshotting at 2.7 are doing a lot of other small things right to get a oneshot window usually

[forest kite]

Which power & vers+stat would you take for a NF

[vocal geyser]

@primal bane which choice is fun

[tiny oar]

u can make NF work at high rating u just gotta have a brain about it

[primal bane]

NF???

youre casting fullmoon into x2 starsurge

in 0.75 seconds

even if its 1 in 30 games

[devout frost]

and u missing the ppl oneshotting as kyrian at 3k rating?

[primal bane]

thats funny as fuck

[rancid sundial]

You just go straight for rootbeam? No incap into 3x cyclone into rootbeam?

[vocal geyser]

I don't see much videos of kyrian people

and yet when I do

[primal bane]

whats bond foe? @devout frost

[vocal geyser]

it doesn't seem as unbalanced as nf

[primal bane]

its literally a 15% dmg buff, what you want to see

[placid mirage]

When I see videos of kyrian players they slam someone every minute

[devout frost]

videos of NF are them hitting convoke after having left 10 games in a row cause they fucked it

[crude minnow]

4-5 9k non crit starsurges every minute lol

[placid mirage]

Me before my ret partner switched to prot

[vocal geyser]

I don't hit 9k non crit lol

[devout frost]

how undergeared are you

[crude minnow]

With good gear, kyrian, dreambinder you will

[vocal geyser]

212

[devout frost]

they wanted to know how to play in 2mins

cant go that indepth

[placid mirage]

Need more mastery ez clap

[rancid sundial]

Ahh

[vocal geyser]

22% mastery 21% versa

the only thing I can do to do a lot of damage is playing DoS trinket but it's 3 min cd

[primal bane]

in a world where you could time your burst to always be in Boat window, it would be the better leggy no?

[crude minnow]

Try dreambinder. Its alot better

[rancid sundial]

I do all that as kyrian breambinder but still stuck 1500. Taking a break to lvl my ww

[crude minnow]

3 starsurges in boat window just doesn't cut it.

[placid mirage]

Truth

[primal bane]

ill get dreambinder when the prices calmdown

[crude minnow]

ring is like 10k or some shit

[primal bane]

190 baby ring i think

[devout frost]

rank 1s cost nothing, no?

[crude minnow]

its a ring, who cares

[placid mirage]

235 master ring

The one ring to rule them all

[devout frost]

its literally the least important slot to rank up

r1 leggo ring to r4 ring has to be like 1.5% dps

[placid mirage]

But do u have a piece to replace your boat

[devout frost]

i dont play boat in pvp so yes

[placid mirage]

I gave away all my boot drops cuz I'm dumb

[forest kite]

So I kinda suck at playing balance

outside of convoke or bust

[primal bane]

still gotta wait for next week

to get soul ash

[crude minnow]

It just takes some time to learn.

[forest kite]

it's not like feral with the 1000000 regrwoths

feels like there is 0 sustian

[placid mirage]

Same I can hardly create pressure outside of convoke which is how I know I am bad

[devout frost]

and thats why you dont play nf 🙂

[forest kite]

In fairness this is the first time since TBC I've been interested in Actual PvP

[devout frost]

because you will never have pressure outside of ur long ass cooldowns

[forest kite]

So NF wins

[placid mirage]

I play nf because I don't have enough time to learn how to be good but I want the gear

[devout frost]

there is no thinking required to kyrian

u just press ur cooldowns every minute

then sit in bear form for 50 seconds

[rancid sundial]

All my perma 1400 friends keep telling to switch to NF for convoke because they die to convoke 😂😂
Kyrian master race

[placid mirage]

Okay well I still forgot to use my badge every 1min after 600 arenas so there u go

[devout frost]

oof

[forest kite]

this is why I use the free one

can't forget it that way

[placid mirage]

Idk why my brain is just like this button doesn't exist

[devout frost]

just bind it to bond then

and u wont have to remember

[rancid sundial]

You can make a macro for CA/incarn, foe, trink, and bond

All on same cd

[placid mirage]

Maybe I need a fat blining weak aura that says BADGE IS UP

[rancid sundial]

Er

I have a separate one for all that + incarn

[placid mirage]

I have a weak aura for incarn convoke badge racial

[forest kite]

so which is the most braindead power I can use for RBG's

[placid mirage]

Sorry a macro*

[primal bane]

wtf is foe

[bitter harness]

fury of elune

[primal bane]

and bond?

[placid mirage]

Last talent column2

Kyrian covenant

[bitter harness]

the kyrian covenant ability

[primal bane]

oh ok

fury of elune has no gcd??

[rancid sundial]

Nope

[primal bane]

WHJAT

[rancid sundial]

The macro puts up all of those

[primal bane]

holyyyy

gotta update my macro

[rancid sundial]

And if I'm not mistaken, you start at 50+ astral power when you hit it and just pump

[forest kite]

i think i did something right that game 😂

[rancid sundial]

People really get butthurt huh

[forest kite]

i love it

[tulip falcon]

the irony of his name being relevant to himself

[bitter harness]

they probably made that character just to whisper

tbf

[forest kite]

they did it was a bg lol

[bitter harness]

would just motivate me to do it more lol

[tulip falcon]

over a random bg?

yea i dont think they understand that

[forest kite]

yeah it felt good bacon

[tulip falcon]

like do they think they actually hurt people when they ragewhisp

i just laugh

then again i come from a server that had world pvpers who would dox you and message your family members on facebook so

[forest kite]

its silly

damn i thought those kind of people were only on classic

thats sad af

[bitter harness]

i am wondering if I should craft r1 dreambinder for RBGs

I currently play NF+boat

no vers on boat either

[placid mirage]

I've had 2-3 ppl message me

Telling me I will be 1200 cr after nerf :( they're not wrong

But for now I feast on their rating

[bitter harness]

this is the perfect time to get rating in RBGs

[tulip falcon]

its inflated af

[bitter harness]

I went 0 -> 2.1k in 9 days with 0 exp

[placid mirage]

Ya I hit 2.1k as a mediocre player

[tulip falcon]

yea sounds about right

[bitter harness]

and I made friends in the process

\o/

[placid mirage]

Because u lose no cr with a decent team

Cause mmr always high af

[tulip falcon]

yep

[bitter harness]

yeah most losses were 0

I did lose 70 rating in one night

[tulip falcon]

my mmr always been around 2.6 to 2.8 whole season

is nuts

how inflated it is

[placid mirage]

I settle for 2.2

[bitter harness]

I wonder if I can get 2.4k CR

but I'm already really happy about reaching 2.1

[tulip falcon]

it will get more inflated by the end

top will prob be 3.4k-3.5k on eu i bet

[bitter harness]

in RBG?

[tulip falcon]

ye

[bitter harness]

interesting

I've never really played RBGs before

they're a lot of fun though I feel like

more than arena imo

[forest kite]

i agree

[tulip falcon]

i haven't enjoyed arena since like WoD

or late mop

[jade silo]

Maybe a stupid question, but is the conquest Upgrade System the Same as for honor? I buy the item and can upgrade it for less conquest?

[tulip falcon]

yea it goes up with each rank like it does with honor gear though

so combatant->challenger will have a smaller cost than rival->duelist etc

[jade silo]

Okay ty. Just want to be sure That I Dont have to buy things twice:-)

[tulip falcon]

nah you can upgrade everything up to duelist and weps up to elite

but duelist armor has same ilvl as elite armor

[pallid coral]

the good old days

I qed into nasim yesterday

was incredibly satisfying winning that game

little scottish fuck

[tulip falcon]

bro i had mudflap trying to message thrazz's mum on facebook and messaged some random woman with the same last name as him

but wasnt related

[pallid coral]

sounds about on brand for mudflap

him and his fucking brother

[tulip falcon]

its the same dude who posted one of our members' kids on 4chan so ye

[pallid coral]

yeah

they were absolute cnuts

[tulip falcon]

i was bad but i wouldn't go that far xD

[bitter harness]

[tulip falcon]

Some people still hold grudges from back then

its nuts

[pallid coral]

yeah

[tulip falcon]

You remember aztek?

or w/e it spelled

[pallid coral]

yes

priest right?

[tulip falcon]

yeah

he spoke to me ben and thrazz a bit and he refuses to speak to us because ben said hi to drach

after all these years

[pallid coral]

rofl

does ben even still play

[tulip falcon]

yea he started in sl again

[pallid coral]

poggerse

[tulip falcon]

was gonna play 3s with him but we hated the stated of arena

[pallid coral]

I know wobz is playing again as well

[tulip falcon]

ye i played rbgs with him a couple of times

[pallid coral]

he's a good lad

[tulip falcon]

ben wants to push glad but i said i couldn't endure arena atm

[pallid coral]

3s is kind of oofter atm

it's better than it was in bfa at least

but still kinda tilting being run at by a ret paladin

[tulip falcon]

ye im not dying to passive buffs on gear

[pallid coral]

I've got some glad priest and hunter who keep begging to q

[tulip falcon]

welp 9 gushings me on cya guyz

[pallid coral]

but I have so little time with all the content

RBGs, raiding, pushing m+

[tulip falcon]

i havent queued rbgs in a while because i dont want to boost anymore

waiting til they do proper groups

not worth it

[pallid coral]

We only qed weekly wins this week

[tulip falcon]

finishing off like 3 2100 boosts then calling it and pushing properly

i got so tilted

[pallid coral]

your shaman in the last game tilted at our shaman so hard

rofl

[tulip falcon]

ye he was whisping us after the first game

a couple weeks ago

[pallid coral]

aaa

[tulip falcon]

thats why some people in our group whisped him in the 2nd game

[pallid coral]

rofl

[tulip falcon]

cos he was shittalking to our rogue after the 1st game for some reason

they seemed really happy about winning that one xD

[tiny oar]

nice nice

love rage whispers i think about this dh a lot lol

[pallid coral]

LMAO

[tulip falcon]

wow

[pallid coral]

I love rage whispers so much

it's so incredibly satisfying

[tulip falcon]

i used to have a collection

idk where they are now

[exotic wolf]

how do you pinpoint good groups in lfg?

is there even a good chance to find good rbg teams?

[tulip falcon]

check their armories or use check-pvp.fr

see what their rating/achieves are

[gray haven]

Will Boat be good for arenas as well? or better to craft timeworn and boat separately for pvp?

[devout frost]

its okay

[tulip falcon]

there's definitely a chance you just have to "network" - add people you felt were good etc

[devout frost]

never as good as dreambinder

[devout frost]

im so used to getting flamed online it doesnt even register anymore

[exotic wolf]

hm i know a lot of good arena players but none seem to play rbg 😮

[devout frost]

good players dont play rbg

[exotic wolf]

always thought it's dead or some kind of "closed" community

[tulip falcon]

it sort of is unfortunately

[devout frost]

they lost half of their playerbase due to stealing each other egirl gfs all the time

[exotic wolf]

lol

[devout frost]

which turned out to be underaged

[tiny oar]

rofl

[tulip falcon]

i mean i think the fact it's the most toxic infested shit in the game with rampant ddosing and cheating at a point is what killed it

the toxic part is still there

[tiny oar]

yea heard theres a lot of juicy drama with the rbg scene

10 guys simping over the 1 egirl etc

[tulip falcon]

anyone who is on EU and is in the need hota discord will know all about it

[exotic wolf]

the ddosing and toxicity i heard of too

[tulip falcon]

every time i have checked that discord i dont even need to scroll to find drama

[lime light]

I would like to simp too if possible @tiny oar

[devout frost]

[lime light]

[crude minnow]

Rbgs have been fun mostly. I'm almost to 2.1k and I still feel like I'm picking out 60% of players who were clearly carried. Like how do you still not cc, still sit on the flag while defending, still spam starfall, etc

[tulip falcon]

ye boosting is a lot easier to do in RBGs so you'll find a lot of people

and there's been a lot of wintrading in previous seasons too

[tiny oar]

i simp for u buddy @lime light

[crude minnow]

I don't even mean boosted necessarily but just they skated by while being shit

[tulip falcon]

ye easily done

there are a lot of meme people on the rbg ladder on eu who have multiple hotas

[crude minnow]

Like this one boomy in my last rbg group had the highest gear and I was forced to sit instead of him while he starfalls and doesn't rotate after his cds are down

[tulip falcon]

gotta pad meters bro

[devout frost]

he cant flame team for losses if he is low on meter

[tulip falcon]

exactly

"i top dmg how we lose"

[stark wolf]

warlock can do that easily

dot the ever living shit out of everything

hard to beat that

[crude minnow]

Atleast their padding slows by 50%

[stark wolf]

thats a fortunate side effect

for easier rating climb as i need currently for the gear 2v2 or 3v3 ? i intend to play with irl friends after so gona tank it anyway

[crude minnow]

Unfortunately I find a lot of people still think starfall and rot is always the play.

[tulip falcon]

just tell people to unbind starfall

[pallid coral]

wonder what team this is

[tulip falcon]

[pallid coral]

It's probably the old method team thinking about it

whaaz team

[tulip falcon]

could be

[pallid coral]

Weapons add up

at least

[tulip falcon]

yeah

i barely watch awc anymore

think i will this time

[pallid coral]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/chasx

[tulip falcon]

generally curious to see what happens

[pallid coral]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/whaazz

yeah

ok

it's deffinetly old method team

looking at transmogs

[tulip falcon]

think the staff is diff but ye its definitely the ones whaazz is using

[pallid coral]

the left staff is the one chas is using

it's the HFC archimonde staff

from normal

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/ikatyaki

And there's zunniyaki

[tulip falcon]

oh i thought it was the challenge mode one in the pic

[pallid coral]

which is the right staff

[tulip falcon]

for some reason

[pallid coral]

can't find thesia

but it's def that team

and yeah i think awc is gonna be pog

the meta looks like a fun one to watch

[tulip falcon]

ye tired of watching dampening games the past few

i might not like playing this meta but it will be fun to watch

[pallid coral]

yeah

last meta was so fucking aids

just constant 20 minute mage lock mirrors

[tulip falcon]

may as well watch mdi

[pallid coral]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/thesioù ok there's thesiou

same weapon in screenshot

[tulip falcon]

ah

[pallid coral]

Thesiou was such a weird pickup imo

[void nimbus]

Real PvPers, thoughts on PW in RBGs for more Rips and more Apex procs? I have no Symm

[pallid coral]

I probably wouldn't

But then again I don't play feral on any maps where you actually tf

[tulip falcon]

I've used it in some maps like gilneas/eots

it's pretty good if you're running apex

hella procs

but only in those types of maps where its a condensed tf

[bitter harness]

go balance

[languid knot]

How was feral druid in tbc for arena?

[rancid sundial]

Crap

Resto was s-tier

[sick wren]

What legendary is everyone using as Balance in pvp?

Mostly in RBGs.

[primal bane]

rbg go boat

[sick wren]

thanks

[tulip falcon]

if you're nf yes go boat

[crude minnow]

Boat or dreambinder @sick wren ... If you are banking on convoke and have other good peeps with kill pressure boat is good. Dreambinder is better outside of convoke or for defending bases if you sit.

I find if you aren't used to playing with the team you're with that dreambinder will solo secure kills

Your total damage may be lower with dreambinder though so some dweebs might think you are doing worse

[sick wren]

yes, Im NF, atm I have the Arcanic Pulsar, can craft BoaT.

[crude minnow]

If you are only crafting 1 atm it may just depend on what you also do

[sick wren]

We are and have been a premade for years, so we gel well and I know my team. However, sometimes I will relieve someone and guard a base and go solo vs rogues or a feral or both.

My job pretty much is damage, spinning the flag in bgs like EOTS or Gilneas, etc. go bear form, cyclone, I do a lot of utility and CC aside focusing on damage when target calling.

So I am not too worried with the damage, but would like to improve it ofc.

our SP and Warlock do a lot of the damage, and our rogue.

[tough forge]

Is boat really that good for convoke in pvp? It's so random who it might hit it's not good prio damage no?

Rbgs that is

[sick wren]

well that's the thing, bit scary when you have CC around you, like blinds from rogues.

[foggy nimbus]

Boat works u basicly 3 starsurge kill some 1 Every eclipse. Plus If you are smart with convoke it can be a game changer

[crude minnow]

It won't break cc

[tough forge]

Personally prefer dreambinder for constant kill pressure, with boat if they interrupt or stun your convoke you lose a lot. Since crits so much weaker in pvp.

[acoustic nebula]

It's not weaker in pvp though

[crude minnow]

Dreambinder giving you 5 6-20k starsurges in a row is nuts

1.75 multiplier in pvp

[acoustic nebula]

Not so much weaker

[tough forge]

Is it 1.75? Thought it was 1.5 for some reason my bad

[sick wren]

ok ty! wasnt too sure

[crude minnow]

Enough to consider.

Convoke with and without boat especially during CA is night and day though. Someone rarely dies during convoke if I'm dreambinder in a full team fight

But they die after when I spam starsurges with 600 mastery

[acoustic nebula]

100% crit still is just too good

[foggy nimbus]

I try and position my self hidden and at close to max range from 2-3 targets when I boat CA convoke. Specially if rest of group are focusing a healer.. seems to work

[crude minnow]

I find that 3 starsurges during normal eclipse with boat just doesn't kill as often unless you have good swaps with your team.

[tough forge]

@foggy nimbus do you nuke the melee attackers then? Seems like convoking the ones who go for healers would be big burst since it won't be as split

[sick wren]

It really is circumstantial and depends on the class you are trying to kill. Disc priest? Holy paladin?

[crude minnow]

I cc hpal for all eternity

[sick wren]

I find that shamans go down easy. If you are targetting healers, not sure how 3 starsurges will kill that.

[acoustic nebula]

If they crit... Lol

[foggy nimbus]

Ye that work to. If 1 or 2 over commit against your healers convoke takes care of them

[crude minnow]

Bormal eclipse boat is like 30% extra crit on average for 3 surges for 1.75 extra damage. Vs 4-5 starsurges for like 16% extra damage on average

[sick wren]

Also, what trinkets are you all using in pvp? This is me atm, and I use the other pvp trinket that all incoming cc and slows are reduced by 20% of their duration https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/twisting-nether/Siouxee

[crude minnow]

Always on use both

[foggy nimbus]

Yeah remove cc and into in use..

[sick wren]

so, should i wait for convoke when they are half health? I pop Inc+Convoke on them to melt them

[foggy nimbus]

Int*

[sick wren]

Yeah I use both for the bonus (on my armoury I am using that crap pve trinket for m+)

dont have any pve trinkets tbh

[acoustic nebula]

Yikes

[crude minnow]

Get your dots and ccs out. Make sure you aren't being focused then I convoke out of clear range of melee or a close spriest or lock or whatever

[acoustic nebula]

Why 235 pulsar

And you have no verse, idk

[foggy nimbus]

Convoke is also fun against flagging carriers

[crude minnow]

Need more verse, on use pvp trink, and then boat or dreambinder

Yeah watching a veng dh dying in the air as you convoke is funny

[foggy nimbus]

I would love to try a rbg team with like 6 balance druids for damage

The focus kills would be nuts

[crude minnow]

Good ones though. Low CR balance/lock/spriest stack teams are usually too shitty and get stomped

They don't cc and then starfall haha

[foggy nimbus]

Yeah. I always get confused when enemie boomie starfalls.

[crude minnow]

Having multiple boomies that actually surge the same target at the same time is strong, but I barely see it. I feel like on appropriate swaps I'm lucky to have 2-3 on that target in their burst window

[haughty compass]

The best is fighting a convoke moonkin and they just go bear when convoke doesn’t kill and run

[crude minnow]

What are they gonna do with 600 mastery and full ap? Fight? Nah convoke isn't up

[teal hinge]

Hell nawww just fight every 2 mins

Just stealth to the enemy fc and poop on him

[vital parcel]

man sp boomkin is poggers

[lime light]

Kenker ape

[tardy hare]

tianton sounding like a dutch person here

[unborn notch]

does convoke still one shot ppl with above 35k hp?

[trim rover]

Hi, what dmg talents/legendary are you guys using in rated bgs 2,2+ mmr

Boomie

[unborn notch]

i normally tank in rbgs so it doesn't seem to do much

[modern flicker]

If you let the whole thing channel into just one person then yeah their health pool is never gonna be enough

[unborn notch]

does it channel into your target?

[modern flicker]

No

[tulip falcon]

no just anything in range

[modern flicker]

It shoots at random stuff in range

[tulip falcon]

and not in cc that can break

[modern flicker]

With some caveats for CCs

[unborn notch]

makes sense, kinda seems like a gimmick in high rated rbg's then

[tulip falcon]

most rbg boomers that i'm aware of are using nf

more people use kyrian for 3s

[trim rover]

Pro tip root the target(s) you dont want to convoke, cant hit rooted targets

[lime light]

@tardy hare excuse me, iam nice to everyone

Sińce new year

[livid wasp]

why cant they make convoke non usable in arena

[vital parcel]

[forest kite]

Best Affinity for Balance in 2s? Guardian or Resto ?

[faint apex]

Where the shit is the balance pvp guide on wowhead

[livid wasp]

do you just lose against disc/ret/warr as jungle

cause that shits stupid

[vital parcel]

i dont think there is a best one tbh

i change depending on matchup

[vital parcel]

this tbh

seems to be gone

😮

[forest kite]

@vital parcel okay ty dude, any must have macros out there ? I just got Clone and fClone

I want to get better but there isnt much out there , just hur dur take these talents

[vital parcel]

i dont have an macros, but maybe root beam is good? idk

[faint apex]

@vital parcel Looks like there's a pseudo guide in the pins. It'll tide me over

[vital parcel]

was thinking of making the cat jump thing into a macro but cba

but im probably not the person to ask, im a scrub

[forest kite]

I got that and a form cancel + switch one its pretty good. so you dont wait for the gcd to swap around

[vital parcel]

Didnt know that was a thing in retail tbh

i have that for classic, might use that myself

kinda annoying trying to switch to bear and get caught mid form

[clear pulsar]

Cuz people don't really macro spells together for the most part, it's all just targeting macros, either focus or arena123, ofc you won't find info on macros that people don't use

You don't have to macro wild charge + cancelform together for it to be off global

Cancelform only puts your forms on global, not the rest of your spells

[karmic locust]

Anyone run cycle of life and death on kitty in here

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's garbanzo beans

Dots do piss damage

Rip ticks for 500 dmg tops

[vital parcel]

dont make it like i did 😦

[clear pulsar]

I made it for pve ofc

But it's not good in pvp for feral at all

[vital parcel]

someday...

[karmic locust]

I just want bleed kitty back

🥲

[clear pulsar]

I mean ify ou play necro

Then it's the best legendary

For necro cat

But uh

Yeah

Don't play necro cat

[tardy hare]

i found me new soulmate

[vital parcel]

necro boomkin is where its at

[clear pulsar]

You're so ridiculous lmao @tardy hare

[tardy hare]

xd

[primal bane]

whats the thought process of jungle comp

like why do hunters and feral work

[stuck talon]

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/feral-druid-pvp-compositions

[clear pulsar]

CC cooldowns and DR types line up well

[tardy hare]

me thinking of jungle

[clear pulsar]

https://clips.twitch.tv/OutstandingAstuteDotterelPraiseIt

Yall are so full of shit arguing about shit you haven't tested

[devout frost]

[livid wasp]

its nice when that happens to mages in 2s cause it takes ages to kill them again with their shields

[misty horizon]

I'm thinking about stepping into pvp as feral and binds are seemingly going to be an issue initially. Is there any huge reason, at least early on at low CR to not make a cast sequence macro for Feral Frenzy and Shred? I know it would be lazy and not optimal but my focus currently is on saving binds

[faint apex]

I use shift and alt modifiers for mine. nomod=shred, shift=ff.

If I understand correctly you're wanting to macro so they both cast which may be a waste of a global in certain scenarios.

[misty horizon]

the idea would be /castsequence reset=45 FF, S, S, etc

[clear pulsar]

There is no good reason to use any castsequence macro ever in this game

That is a bad idea

You don't press FF on cd like that

[stray sigil]

nonono no castsequences

[clear pulsar]

It's not a pve parse

You don't use FF just cuz it's available anytime like that

[faint apex]

Im mostly using mine for TF beserk set ups with the legendary.

or a maim

[quaint rapids]

Any insights on well honed instincts?

I feel like it's bis

[clear pulsar]

It's bis

For every spec

[quaint rapids]

But if there's a mind games it kills you

[clear pulsar]

Any content

You gotta live with that risk

[quaint rapids]

Okay, I kinda expected that answer

[clear pulsar]

It's honestly fucking insane that it exists

[quaint rapids]

I don't wanna take it off anyway lol

I mean DH gets the darkness one

[clear pulsar]

But then again rogues get free restealths and dots cant break cuz shield endurance

The darkness one at least puts the spell on cd tho ye?

[quaint rapids]

Not that I know

[clear pulsar]

It does

[quaint rapids]

I think it works on vengeance

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[clear pulsar]

Yeah thank fuck veng isn't as relevant as protpala in arena

[primal bane]

MM hunter feels like an early alpha spec

every damage attack is just a shot variation with an arrow icon

[quaint rapids]

I'm a shitter just learning arena properly

[clear pulsar]

So does feral

It's all fangs icons

Or paws

???

Cope bro

[quaint rapids]

So it's been tough dealing with pally rogue and monk

[clear pulsar]

Take the week off yea!?

Every rdru spell is just leaf icon variatons

[quaint rapids]

I always remember R means dot

Rake and rip

But honestly it's all just muscle memory at this point

S means direct damage

Shred and swipe

[primal bane]

bm buffs cant come soon enough i wanna play my hunt

[quaint rapids]

Hunters are stinky

So are pally and rogue

My hot take is if a hunter turtles, his pets should be pacified

[primal bane]

nah turtle already p shitty defense cooldown

[quaint rapids]

completely invulnerable

Pally shouldn't be able to attack while bubbled either honestly

[primal bane]

now that i can agree

bubble never felt right

never got how bubble managed to enter arena

but lay on hands didnt

[quaint rapids]

Fact that you can bop the seed

Wtf bliz

[teal hinge]

Prot bubble thing is insane

On seed

[loud wedge]

So seed should be taken when playing with pala?

[acoustic nebula]

3 endurance + a potency is dank

Mastery is good though niya op

[oblique lion]

Sorry if it’s been asked a lot, what’s stat prio for boomie

[devout frost]

vers > mast/haste

[fast vale]

I am coming to the conclusion im too dreadful at this game to play resto Druid

What class is ez for arena? 😂

[oblique lion]

Ty

[devout frost]

demon hunter

[placid mirage]

Every time I play vs resto druid at my middling cr it just seems like they are lost compared to other healers

[oblique panther]

Why is demon gunter very good for 2s

Oh i read the previous comments wrong

[fast vale]

Thought dH was not so good now

[devout frost]

its not

u didnt ask whats good u asked whats ez

[fast vale]

Ok, good and easier than rdru 😀

[clear pulsar]

Hpal

Boomie, ele, enhance

Idk it's hard to say what is easier than rdru

Each spec has its way of being played

The very simple specs aren't good

Like bm and fury

[vast vapor]

paladin is very simple

every spec

press buble to survive

[clear pulsar]

I would say the same for druid but

[devout frost]

press bear to survive

[sly marsh]

arms is pretty straightforward and good IMO

[paper solar]

at what % of vers do you not get crushed at? Really struggling on my Druid... at 20% vers right now

[fast vale]

Yeah thinking maybe warr or pal

[clear pulsar]

You can't facetank burst damage at any vers %

Ret / boomie / ww / ele / fire and prob other specs will absolutely fuck you up terribly if you get caught out of bear / with no pre hots, etc

[rancid sundial]

do you guys ever take off celestial guardian or moonkin aura?

[chrome panther]

nope

[devout frost]

no i prefer winning

[paper solar]

So should I just be running away and kiting cool downs in 2v2?

[royal tartan]

what conq weapon should i buy as balance ? 2h or 1h and why ?

[vast vapor]

2h has 3int more and kinda better stats for pvp

1h if u raid

[queen holly]

is it better to buy fearful symmetry on head or gloves if i don't plan to upgrade it

[royal tartan]

Okay thanks. stat prio haste vers or mastery vers ?

[vast vapor]

is ww monk kiteable? also is there any benefit of cat forming instead of travel forming on arena?

I tend to just tank them as balance in bear so much, no idea if I should just try to run faster than them?

prio is vers haste

[royal tartan]

ty

[tardy hare]

we out here boys

[lime light]

kyrian ofc

[tardy hare]

[edgy shale]

u can't kite a WW unless they literally already used EVERYTHING already to get to u

[tardy hare]

MLAO

egirlmilker bound by honor

Delver of the vaults

lmao

egirlmilker, destroyer's end

no thats bad

wtf

egirlmilker savior of azeroth

The prestigious egirlmilker

[clear pulsar]

Corporal Egirlmilker

I feel like the unrelenting is the best one lol

[tardy hare]

pretty fat

[whole prism]

any ides what breaks drink as resto vs pala lock?

behind pillar not in combat

[vast vapor]

no combat after breaking too?

[quaint rapids]

Can you drink while dotted?

[rancid sundial]

any good 2v2 boomie comps? just ele and hpal?

[vast vapor]

sp and rogue and mage too

protpal probably the best

[rancid sundial]

ew

the dark side..

[quaint rapids]

Don't play boomy as a one trick pony would be my advice

Opening with convoke is a mistake imo

[rancid sundial]

I'm kyrian

[quaint rapids]

easy kick

Ah

Well

Then just do your thing

And enjoy not being a one trick pony

[rancid sundial]

I'd be higher rating as nf tbh lol. Spending a lot of time in bear getting yeeted and not building AP. Realllly poorly timing my goes, though

[quaint rapids]

The most annoying boomy I've fought just spammed sunfire moonfire

Then triple starsurged when his partner opened

Probably not being deleted by a rogue

He could be low verse

[rancid sundial]

nah I'm 200 ilvl in pvp gear just find I often need frenzied and phial (mostly playing double dps, though)

phial does way more in bear, right?

yeah ofc

I'll try to spend more time in boom, just find I'm getting my shit pushed in a lot

[queen holly]

what do you do as hpal/feral vs arms/rsham

[lime light]

kite

[queen holly]

but can you ever oom them?

who/how do you kill?

[quaint rapids]

Separate

And nuke the feral

[queen holly]

i'm the feral

[quaint rapids]

Oh

Convoke the rahaman

And thorns when the warrior jumps on you

I'm a shitter tho, so there's probably a better option

[queen holly]

my pala died in the opener to warrior solo 😿

[devout frost]

impressive

[queen holly]

it's 1300

[devout frost]

could have told me it was 1900, i'd believe u

[queen holly]

think the only arms comp i can beat is disc

by ooming the disc

no fucking clue what to do vs the rest of them

[chrome panther]

roll over and play boomkin

rdruid is a mess.

[crude minnow]

Wait till they nerf hpals. That will be faster than them going oom

[chrome panther]

hopefully they just buff all the healers to hpal level

even hpal flops to some dps lineups

[clear pulsar]

The only nerf I'd expect to hpal

Is word of glory nerf

That affects all specs

I don't even know what would be a reasonable way to buff rdru tho

Maybe a decent pvp talent for a change

Fucking reactive resin is so ass lmao

But that's not gonna happen outside a major patch

It's absolutely wild when you look at disc and hpal pvp talents

Double BOP, Divine Favor, Light's Grace, Arch/Dark Arch, Trinity, Thoughtsteal, Dome

And then rdru has to take fucking Reactive Resin

[crude minnow]

A hot that heals based on the amount of damage the target is taking

[clear pulsar]

Should make something about NS availability

For a pvp talent

And uh maybe something like when you have 4 hots on a target your Regrowth always crits!?

Sounds reasonable

Maybe only 3

Yeah the shifts they made to design with the Swiftmend change and Regrowth more crit when it's already on target

Make sense for m+ cuz rdru was oppressively good at doing dam and still being the best healer

But it cuuuucked them in pvp

Shifting power towards Regrowth spam and more maintenance/less immediate pick up heal

Healing Touch

Yessir

[scarlet pelican]

Hey guys, just created a Druid

wondering what class should I focus now, as I will be pvping the most !

[sly marsh]

well

do you like healing, melee dps, or ranged dps

[haughty compass]

Guardian pvp main

Do it

[tender mulch]

Guys, I’m aiming for 1800 rating in arena this season, hardly played any “real” pvp before - should I go balance or feral to easiest reach my goal?

Or is it even possible as Guardian as you suggest @haughty compass

😉

Currently 1200 btw (2v2)

[scarlet pelican]

thats my thing aswell shei

idk what to play xD

feral does ton of damage

and balance aswell tbh for what I have seen

[tender mulch]

I’d love to be a good feral, but man they are squeezy.. 😅 And balance just seems to oneshot

[devout frost]

balance is easier

[scarlet pelican]

they def getting nerfed tho

xD

[tender mulch]

+1

[devout frost]

why would they

druids arent top of the barrel atm

[scarlet pelican]

they do insane damage

[sly marsh]

convoke will get nerfed but thats it

[devout frost]

they havent nerfed noobstomp specs in the past

dont see why they would start now

[sly marsh]

and it will probably just shift the hard hitting spells to the end of channel to reward interrupting

[scarlet pelican]

hm

so balance ?

[devout frost]

plenty of specs that would need nerfs before us

[scarlet pelican]

what do you guys play ?

[sly marsh]

watch both specs on youtube or twitch and see which you like better. i play feral

[clear pulsar]

I could totally see them not nerfing anything tbh

[devout frost]

true

that would mean they had to care about pvp

[clear pulsar]

Maybe word of glory is the one thing that they need to address

LMAO

Tru

[scarlet pelican]

I never played a mage in this game

i played tanks and melee dps mainly

i have a holy paladin but damn healer is hard to play

[devout frost]

if they do any buffs it gonna be complete jokes

like idk

[sly marsh]

play boomie then Lion's. mix it up 🙂

[devout frost]

4% more dps for fury warr

[scarlet pelican]

ty kory

maybe i should try it

[devout frost]

still get 0 of arms utility

[tender mulch]

@sly marsh true, however feral seems to be more the target thats being slamed - I’m a pve play, so I usually sort panic when i’ve 2-3 ppl chasing me, haha 😅

[scarlet pelican]

thank you for your helps

[sly marsh]

lol yeah feral is often the kill target. but thats a fun opportunity to outplay -- kite, positioning, bear form, etc

not for everyone though.

[tender mulch]

Where should I go to learn - i’m having a BLAST with feral in bgs, but arena is another beast haha

Who did you learn from when you started @sly marsh

[crude minnow]

True, you are in bear form more (kek)

[sly marsh]

back in the day i learned by watching skillcapped videos, i dont really have a go-to feral player that i watch now. i would like to find one, though 😄

i think for beginners, general arena guides are most useful. if you can pve you can probably play your class well enough, but learning about positioning and DRs and stuff like that is important to take the next step

and that isnt class or spec specific knowledge

[tidal notch]

which lego do moonkin use for pvp? mainly arenas

[tender mulch]

Thanks @sly marsh ! That some solid advice, appreciate it!

[clear pulsar]

There's Snupy who's multiglad and posts a bunch on youtube, streams almost everyday

And all the streamers in the pins yeah

[sly marsh]

@tender mulch good luck out there!!

[queen holly]

when you go vs 2 melee dps in 2v2 as feral, what are your talents

do you strength of the wild

instead of leader

[nocturne zinc]

Question if you drop from elite to duelist bracket do you lose your weapon upgrades?

as in ability to

[devout frost]

you cant lose already upgraded items

[nocturne zinc]

not the weapons themselves

[devout frost]

you lose the ability to upgrade new items

[nocturne zinc]

ty

Why was it i was in the elite bracket with 2370~ but when i hit 2358 i dropped to duelist?

is it really that close of a line?

[queen holly]

i mean it's a line

[nocturne zinc]

whats the hard line?

2360?

[queen holly]

isn't it dependent

[nocturne zinc]

am i like literally 2 points out or

[placid mirage]

it's 30 point buffer

[nocturne zinc]

so i need to be 2370 again?

[placid mirage]

i don't know about getting back up

[nocturne zinc]

sigh

i wish i waited

i didnt finish getting my main hand

really boned myself

[placid mirage]

just win kapp

[nocturne zinc]

i know, i helped a friend

Wish i didnt

=/

[placid mirage]

o been there

but i am only baby rating

and i don't care about 3s

[nocturne zinc]

Hopefully the GV puts my out of my misery tomorrow =/

and i can just not worry about it

[vast vapor]

you need to get 2400 back if u dropped the rank

[nocturne zinc]

That sucks ass

lol

[vast vapor]

buffer is only if u are currently on that rank

[nocturne zinc]

Welp fuck me

[devout frost]

GV counts highest win for the week

[nocturne zinc]

yea im really banking on that now

cause i need it lol

or a fucking godly RBG grp

[placid mirage]

if u got it once u can get it 2x ez clap

[forest kite]

what do boomy's do when getting focused by double melee? or even just a WW, there are some WW players i just can't shake

[devout frost]

go bear

for ww u can use mass root on their images/xuen to stop a lot of their burst

[forest kite]

good to know, i just feel useless in bear just using frenzy and incap

thorns damage is awesome but if they have a healer it's rough, i've been doing a lot of 2v2 as boomy with a sub rogue

[devout frost]

but if they have a healer theyre not double meele

as boomkin u only burst every 60s anyway

dont need to put much pressure in between

[pulsar lark]

I've been playing a lot of feral in PvP

[sly marsh]

if youre playing with a rogue he should be peeling for you against double melee

[pulsar lark]

Well the rogue should set up peels as well. He should be sitting between you and the melee. Crippling with shiv as well.

[dreamy terrace]

Question, the pvp talent Malornes swiftness, does it increase our stag form speed in say, the Maw?

[burnt cloud]

is draught of deep focus worth for tunneling?

[clear pulsar]

As what spec?

[dreamy terrace]

ok ty

[spiral kernel]

anyone running pradator + primal in bgs?

not too bad :3

[forest kite]

Woot, inadvertent convoke buff. No longer hits cyclone targets

[pallid coral]

poggers

[acoustic kindle]

Quick question for the PvPers

Is PvP gear needed for world pvp?

Okay cool, I was thinking if anything, get the trinkets for the vers, but does that matter for outside battle grounds?

[timber wadi]

The trinket bonus applies for arenas, bgs and war mode

[acoustic kindle]

Okay, that would be the ones I would get then.

Just for the break free of stun and burst.

[heady vessel]

@pallid coral you really think that’s a good change? But now you can’t root pets to convoke, and you might break hunter traps

[viral ocean]

Yeah but you can root+solar and blow them up if they dont have a way to get out.

[heady vessel]

Idk, i guess i dont see The point of why blizz would allow it to hit breakable cc, The cyclone thing is a good change

I guess, but i just liked the fact that you could choose who you wanted to convoke by rooting The others

I mean, you technically still can, but it requires a cyclone cast instead of an instant root, but you can only have cyclone on 1 target