for raid frames gladius works
#pvp
primal bane
like this
clear pulsar
Bigdebuffs
lime light
its big debuffs
lime light
it can pop cds too
clear pulsar
Yeah bigdebuffs shows important auras like that
primal bane
i saw it work when a pally popped wings
tiny oar
my brain hurts talking in here sumtimes
clear pulsar
primal bane
what are the odds of this working with other nameplates
tiny oar
i use bigdebuffs n threatplates n its fine
lime light
@tiny oar dont be toxic, enjoy your ride in the discord
just like me
family friendly chatter
tiny oar
yep tian the friendly neighborhood ruski
lime light
yes, iam the guy that helps an old woman or man
when they are cutting the grass
or their cat is on a tree
clear pulsar
what are the odds of this working with other nameplates
It works with kuinameplates, plater, and threatplates just fine
That I know of
primal bane
great opinion
primal bane
boutta apply to an ilvl 200+ only RBG with 199 😎
bitter harness
rebel
tiny oar
absolute animal
clear pulsar
@tiny oar I was using this trinket for almost all of our games the other day
Cuz I don't have badge/insignia
And it honestly procs a lot
In pve
tiny oar
clear pulsar
Turns out it does nothing in pvp
The tooltip values go to 0 once you're inside arena
?????
It's wild
LMAO
tiny oar
lol wtf
clear pulsar
I had a trinket that did nothing for most of our games
tiny oar
yea no trinket bonus is pretty sad too
clear pulsar
Yeah
Gonna just bite the bullet and buy honor trinket I guess
Wanted to save honor for upgrades
On armor
bitter harness
like this one, it's disabled too in pvp
clear pulsar
Especially with 197 coming up next week
Well that one I can understand
But the trinket idk
Pretty random
bitter harness
ye
clear pulsar
Bro am I crazy for wanting to make Natural Orders Will on my alt too before I make Symmetry? @lime light
patent idol
guys do you like versatility better?
i think i like to sacrifice some versa to get mastery
if i go 17% versatility for 40% mastery i feel like i do more dmg
than 21% versa and 32% mastery
as feral
clear pulsar
Stop feeling
Vers #1
Vers also defensive
Trinket set bonus
Makes it big
But ilvl > all
wind rock
guys, a stupid question but how does infight/outfight stuff work in arena?
clear pulsar
Weapon dps, stamina, and agi most important stats
wind rock
like in the game before the mage had ignite and dragons breath on me, and then i got sapped with fire mage dots and rogue dots on me
clear pulsar
Dots don't keep you in combat
Combat triggers on direct hits / direct healing on a friendly in combat
wind rock
and on the other hand when the rogue has dots and bleed on him he can stealth just by running a little bit away?
how do i stay in combat
clear pulsar
And lasts for around 6-7 seconds after
brave vale
Any high rated moonkin online ? I have some questions
clear pulsar
Tag Glyph
Or also use the search function
On upper right corner
Most likely your questions have been answered many times over
Check the pins too
lime light
@clear pulsar yes, its dogshitto lego
clear pulsar
Ok
lime light
@tiny oar what do u play in 45 lvl talent tier
dawn forge
I have high difficulty to get 1600 as feral with 200ilevel. I have 2k3 xp on other chars but feral is not Easy for me
lime light
keep grinding
primal bane
2s or 3s?
forest moss
clear pulsar
bigdebuffs does not show pally bubble
YOu really really have to start actually looking shit up or trying to understand how it works before bitching so much
Go the addon configs and it lets you pick spells' visibility settings, including paladin bubble, priorities you want to set to certain types of spells, if CC should be shown above defensive cds, etc.
primal bane
immunities are set by me
to 100
itstarted showing now
after i put it on a special priority
of also 100
dawn forge
Yeah we are working on that^^
tiny oar
<@!237412116024393728> what do u play in 45 lvl talent tier
as what bro
lime light
hpal
tiny oar
idk i been doing awakening for everything but like boomies or wws
just things that pump for like 30s str8 feel like sanc wrath is more value
lime light
feels like it never proc without holy avenger
winter spindle
As a Kyrian boomy is it ever worth bursting when you’re not in eclipse, say if you have double melee training you?
devout frost
@winter spindle u cant burst outside of eclipse
U literally do 0 dmg outside of eclipse
slow socket
U literally do 0 dmg outside of eclipse
Literally
patent idol
best double dps talents for boomy ? 2 dps combo?
hasty wadi
How do people get 1600 as druid? I'm not getting in any arena or RBG group and my ilvl is 200-203
with a 1510 rating, feel like its such a horrible spot
clear pulsar
You can list your own group
If you're looking for RBGs, boomie is the generally best spec and will get you most invites, especially if you're willing to play guardian and FC
hasty wadi
well i'm not gonna lead an RBG group, i don't have the skills for that, arena sure
clear pulsar
For arena idk bro just play and improve, record your games so you can rewatch and catch your mistakes, watch streamers to see how they deal with certain situations or matchups
"How do I get 1600" isn't a question that anyone can give you a good detailed answer to
hasty wadi
I try to do that, but atm i'm just getting declined left and right
seems like everyone wants DH tanks
in RGB's
tidal linden
is the guardian legendary that grants you CC immunity best for FC? currently using the ironbark legendary so I get 2 free FR
hasty wadi
I just crafted that one today, it's great
you're not immune to interrupts but the cc immune is huge
clear pulsar
is the guardian legendary that grants you CC immunity best for FC? currently usi...
Yeah sleeper is insane
Everyone's subject to the same LFG as you @hasty wadi
People try to look for partners in reddit or discord servers, but there's not nearly as many people as you'd find in LFG
hasty wadi
Yea true, i tried to search for that but really barely any results
tidal linden
as a FC we shouldnt really be casting anything to get interrupted tho should we?
clear pulsar
as a FC we shouldnt really be casting anything to get interrupted tho should we?
CONVOKE 
tidal linden
oh yea, forgot I'll have that now that I went NF lol
forest kite
what are good 3v3 comps for resto?
clear pulsar
All the good comps bro
What I see kubzy/pojke/nogard playing is
Caster cleaves
And melee cleaves like ret / arms / enhance mix
Fire / aff / spr / ele mix
forest kite
okay cheers.
clear pulsar
The people you play with >>> the comp you're playing
clear pulsar
FR you can make any wacky shit work if you stick to playing with people you gel with than cycling thru 'meta comps' in LFG
summer oasis
kindred galleon
Prot pala
barren raven
Best level 45 talent option for RBGs should be Stellar Drift for boomies right?
There's no way twin moons is better
clear pulsar
Stellar Drift is pretty pointless
hasty wadi
twin moons is better
clear pulsar
Pressing Starfall doesn't win you games
4 starsurges in a row on someone's head wins you games
kindred galleon
Convoke wins you games
barren raven
I was just about to say that
So the assumption is TM > more time to cast + more dots > more AP. I guess I can buy that
clear pulsar
Well the assumption is you don't rly press starfall
barren raven
I guess SD could be better if you run an overall pressure team
kindred galleon
3wlock 3 balance
hasty wadi
not really, such a small amount of constant pressure really does nothing
its all burst
barren raven
Conduit I guess you still go fury of the skies for the extra starsurge dmg then
And convoke
kindred galleon
Lol
barren raven
The typos are strong with this one today
kindred galleon
Confoke, convole, convoke and you win win win
barren raven
I love the confoke convole convoke combo
covert bronze
just crafted verdant infusion for resto pvp - only works when I'm spec balance though O.o anyone with the same bug?
hasty wadi
don't forget you're supposed to go solstice for the lvl 50 talent, thats why u go twin moons
clear pulsar
Conflux is good, everything else feels kinda meh!? Idk I'd just default to 1 potency and the rest in Endurance or Finesse tbh
barren raven
I never switch out of Solstice... What else would you run lol
hasty wadi
exactly
stark frigate
hi, im trying to teach my shadow friend pvp - would boomy/shadow or feral/shadow be better? we sort of blasted through 1200 ish without him knowing anything
clear pulsar
hi, im trying to teach my shadow friend pvp - would boomy/shadow or feral/shadow...
For 2s? Resto
For 3s, probably boomie but both should be good
clear pulsar
It is? Lol
The idea is with Dreambinder, FoE lets you dump 5 surges in a row on someone's head, it's nasterino, especially as Kyrian
sacred rock
If i hit 1800 and fall back below 1800 can i still upgrade items to rival? or do i have to actively be sitting above 1800 to upgrade?
stark frigate
For 2s? Resto
thanks
clear pulsar
You need to be at rival in at least one bracket. There's some 'grace' area of like, 30 or so rating where you remain Rival
So down to 1775, 1770 you should still retain Rival
@sacred rock
stark frigate
i was hoping he would go disc to feral-disc... but he refuses to play healer, guess i should learn instead
sacred rock
dang so hitting 1800 then playing with a friend for fun and probably dropping would be bad unless i get all my upgrades first
clear pulsar
You can play double dps, it's just gonna be much harder if your friend's learning.
@stark frigate
clear pulsar
Dreambinder?
Yeah believe it or not, putting all your eggs into the one basket of CA Convoke with BOAT isn't something that everybody wants to do
In actual pvp
primal bane
i deadass did not use faerie swarm in pvp yet gonna cringe
hasty dome
Few points from 1600, so I could finally upgrade quite a few pieces, and train of 6+ games WW monks knocking me back down
primal bane
its ok intercoolerz i have the same luck as you when i need to hit certain rankings
i was 1 game away from 1.6k 5 times before i got it
took like 2 days
barren raven
Oh the ranks are obtainable through RBG too?
hasty wadi
meanwhile i join a 1600 group, everyone's 1600-1700, the enemy is 1500, 1400 and some 0's even and we cant even win
barren raven
Thought it was only 2s and 3s, haven't done pvp singe legion so not used to this system lol
hasty wadi
dunno what's up with alliance bg's sometimes
tardy hare
Oh the ranks are obtainable through RBG too?
Yep
barren raven
Including glad?
tardy hare
2s and rbg give The Elite class title tho
barren raven
That's dope
hasty dome
2s is eating at my sanity
lime light
yes
hasty dome
Dot protection
hushed pivot
Hi, what’s the current consensus for boomie legendaries?
I keep seeing differing opinions between boat, circle, dream and oneths
covert bronze
just crafted verdant infusion for resto pvp - only works when I'm spec balance t...
Has anybody encountered this? Thanks
acoustic nebula
Can anyone give me advice on what to do better in this clip? I am not the one streaming I am his partner
primal bane
yes RBG counts and its typically much easier
lime light
press convoke harder
harsh light
yes
weak hinge
what soulbind are you guys taking on NF Boomer? Probably dreamweaver + soothing voice trait for double potency+double endurance?
i kind of dont want to give up on mastery from niya 😄 haha
opal condor
nya with 1 potency conduit still outclasses dreamwaever with double potency
In terms of dps
weak hinge
yeah i know.
devout frost
always niya
opal condor
so yeah, niya
devout frost
except if ur running with hpal/disc
in which u can consider dreamweaver if theyre willing to play degen
devout frost
its a decaying 90% slow
with a very short duration
and if you are playing night fae dps the effect doesnt really benefit you
would be used if it wasnt in a NF tree
short sapphire
Can someone explain to me why Fury of the Skies is good? i see its on the pin but the dmg % seams low?
hard marten
devout frost
Can someone explain to me why Fury of the Skies is good? i see its on the pin bu...
because conduits dont matter
blizzard nerfed all of them so hard
we are at a point where Fury of the Skies is the best
opal condor
Can someone explain to me why Fury of the Skies is good? i see its on the pin bu...
It's like a raw 4% upgrade, which is strong
devout frost
unless your NF
short sapphire
I am NF, was considering Dreamweaver for double potency but i see Niya might be better
devout frost
you only go dreamweaver if u have hpal/disc willing to degen gameplay
Niya is higher dps
clear pulsar
If your comp can make use of pod, it's pretty busted
But Niya is decidedly better damage than running 2 potencies as boomie or feral
devout frost
also cause endurance is our best conduits
unique cairn
any place i can check for best resto arena legendarys and such?
devout frost
verdant infusion
devout frost
why tf is pod nameplate so fucking huge
better its huge than before when it was flying
tardy hare
i mean
lime light
its like that now
clear pulsar
I'm guessing it's still flying?
tardy hare
no
clear pulsar
And machtig just looking from sky
tardy hare
middle of my scren
clear pulsar
It's like bosses
clear pulsar
I mean any mob in the game, if you have nameplates turned off, the text of the name and title are proportional to the mob size
And pod used to have nameplate on sky so I imagine the total model is pretty large
devout frost
kurwa
tiny oar
mdr
clear pulsar
I'm gonna piss in your bed tonight
When you're sleeping
And you'll be ashamed whole year
lime light
cant piss that
clear pulsar
Thinking it was you
clear pulsar
Pls shadap tian
lime light
rly kid
clear pulsar
I'm trying to eat my food
clear pulsar
@devout frost why do these idiots in balance channel act like boomie is particularly harder than other specs
Bunch of fucken snowflakes lmao
lime light
leave them alone
clear pulsar
It's just weird
lime light
so u are
haughty compass
Can’t even be in this channel with this dude. So toxic, it’s the worst. Later dudes
short sapphire
BOAT vs Dreambinder for NF. If i sometimes suck at not getting convoke kicked would dream binder be better? or is BOAT so good i should just get good?
hollow junco
Nah convoke will get stopped against good teams, you can practice it more but dreambinder is really solid even as NF
livid wasp
why does blizzard think prot comps are fine in 3s
agile berry
“Fine” as in allowed?
livid wasp
well they obviously think its fine since we are going into arena tournament with them existing
clear pulsar
No one will play it in tournament
limpid kraken
@short sapphire I prefer dreambinder in all senarios
clear pulsar
The general sentiment here is that BOAT is memey/gimmicky, still good, but Dreambinder is also good while being consistent af.
@short sapphire
limpid kraken
boat works better in wizard cleave comps that play very well defensivly
short sapphire
Ya that was why i was leaning to dreambinder, it seams more consistent
limpid kraken
but even in that senario, dreambinder is super solid and arguably better but different
limpid kraken
how much mastery you have? and its not an ability that kills on its own like convoke
still gotta be popped at right moments w/ eclipses and stacked with other CDs + leggo for maximize efficency
unique cairn
what soulbind do u go as resto ?
burnt cloud
playing feral went full burst while linked to a mage
im still lvling so could just be a scaling thing
limpid kraken
well id say its something that will scale better with better gear. For feral, esp those with high ilvl and lots of mastery, the kyrian ability % dmg increased, so it makes your HUGE bites that much huger
clear pulsar
playing feral went full burst while linked to a mage
Don't link to other people
limpid kraken
when you're still gearing or leveling, your bites arn't near as scary
clear pulsar
Bond to yourself
limpid kraken
and thus your % dmg from kyrian ability isn't as high. oh yeh and def that lol
clear pulsar
Bonding to someone else will do nothing if you're not both bursting together
limpid kraken
also not like combustion needs more dmg xD
clear pulsar
It gets eaten up by damage taken too
burnt cloud
we were binding with bust
clear pulsar
Don't, it's pointless
limpid kraken
better to do yourself, and yeh the idea is you'll get to a spot with gear where you're at 30%+ mastery and your bites becomes huge threats
and the kyrian ability just pumps that over the edge
limpid kraken
double stun into CC setups where you just end up going TF + zerk + kyrian + FF + Bite and hit them for like 20k bites
clear pulsar
You're level 53?
burnt cloud
ye lol
limpid kraken
yeh he said hes leveling.
burnt cloud
was just testing in skirms
limpid kraken
prob offstats from last xpac gear?
i woulden't be surprized if thers wonky stuff gonig on with stats too in the leveling scaling they do
ie, 53 -> 59 scaling
burnt cloud
ye
i went fae at 50
and saw all the high ranked ferals using kyrian
so swapped it to try and it felt so bad haha
vers mastery haste for ferals in pvp rn?
hollow dew
can you se in details if you got bop?
limpid kraken
@burnt cloud theres quite a varience in stat prio from what ive seen. imo something like vers > mastery = crit > haste seems right
@hollow dew should be able to in your deathlog of details
prob not so if they BOP pod tho
hollow dew
Thx!
livid wasp
and so much fun when some moonkin opens from stealth convoke on disc and oneshots him
and I cant do anything cause hes on the other side of the arena
hollow junco
stay near him ?
livid wasp
hes in stealth
theres so much stupid shit literally impossible to get past 2.2k
am I supposed to just wait 10 years till he leaves stealth
to prevent that
hollow junco
If your disc sits on a pillar he can LOS the convoke
and if he opens close you can kick
livid wasp
I knew they can do that gay shit but I didnt expect someone to be so cheap
bitter harness
and so much fun when some moonkin opens from stealth convoke on disc and oneshot...
thats a great idea ty
livid wasp
should be melee only like feral convoke
clear pulsar
bitter harness
rancid umbra
which leggo are yall restos using for pvp
pallid coral
https://www.twitch.tv/hydramist TR games
hopefully we get some TR jungle later
When did hydras team get flynn
proper oriole
how easy is it to swap around from guardian to other specs to try pvp?
if i'm troll
clear pulsar
how easy is it to swap around from guardian to other specs to try pvp?
It takes clicking ur mouse button twice
clear pulsar
which leggo are yall restos using for pvp
Verdant infusion bis. Other options can be nice and meme for damage etc.
clear pulsar
@pallid coral had flynn competed at all in hte last couple of years?
clear pulsar
Tony's team was only 3 last xpac pretty sure
pallid coral
yeah
clear pulsar
Racher playing with Gelu and Rat
pallid coral
oh that doesn't surprise me
clear pulsar
Uuuuh gamebattles something?
pallid coral
he's been blasting ladder
clear pulsar
Cassidy playing with Relzah
Wildcard playing with Asgarath instead of Loony
Corkiy's playing with Wallirikz
clear pulsar
Asgarath is pretty out there
pallid coral
asgarath best free agent i think
clear pulsar
I don't recall seeing him play anything other than rdru
pallid coral
He plays hpal and rsham
pallid coral
I raided with him in uldir
clear pulsar
Prev joined M2KC
Bean's competing too
There are some streamer mixes in the NA cup that aren't any interesting or cool if you don't watch them
pallid coral
jesus there's so many teams signed up
pallid coral
oh nerdrage is singed up with niksi
carazerx nerdrage tana niksi
oh shit
jimjim and volko
shame AJ isn't still around for jimjim to post pseudo racist shit on randomly
pallid coral
that raostyz team is legit
Fnoberz Corkiy Walli needs an ele or a mage
and it's a sick team
Wonder what hunter lucyt and borugg end up with
they played some with bicmexd last tourney
clear pulsar
Yeah but bicmex has a full time job
I think it was just that he had a week off
What he said on stream
clear pulsar
No idea who colard is
pallid coral
Old rank 1 warrior
lilac plank
Why is loony banned?
clear pulsar
Borugg's team is blackfire and poccit, a mage and an ele!?
pallid coral
no clue
lilac plank
And speaking of it
clear pulsar
Neither's a hunter
pallid coral
Blackfire's played a few things
lilac plank
Whats with boetar. He comming bavk?
lilac plank
That would be shame
pallid coral
He was pretty public about how he thought competing in wow was shit
and prizepools were bad etc etc
lilac plank
That man made such difference in every team
ionic temple
What tourney you guys talkin about
lilac plank
It was.more than that
clear pulsar
Legit teams taht made like, consistent top 4, made 15k dollars per player for the entire year
lilac plank
He was exaggerating tbh
lilac plank
Like complaining hotel is too far etc
clear pulsar
But to make it there you have to play like it's a job
lilac plank
Yeah sure i mean i agree with him up to a point
pallid coral
no i agree with him
pallid coral
i'm just saying that i doubt he wants to come back
clear pulsar
Lucy's streaming wmpal with his team
pallid coral
Zhrey has a team too
clear pulsar
Lucy's legit not been playing feral at all I feel like
Maybe he just goes war every game
pallid coral
He's beein playing a lot of ww and war y
dire nymph
meta slave
clear pulsar
Resto ofc
It's iffy, but playable
It's like, definitely better than mistweaver
Which is something at least
lilac plank
For 2s is better i hear
pallid coral
oh
corki and walle have another player on their team
but not one whose name i recognise
interesting
pallid coral
Almualim
lilac plank
Eh?
pallid coral
¯_(ツ)_/¯
clear pulsar
Resto's not the meta healer but you can play it to the ratings you want to achieve bro
pallid coral
clear pulsar
Especially 2s
lilac plank
Also...when do those eu cups start
clear pulsar
A russian feral that used to talk in here is playing too
Zakat with Antosha, feral lock team
Next weekend, jan 14th
lilac plank
Coool
I mean i am arround 1900 player so i don't understand everything that happens when they play
But man i lobe thos tournaments
clear pulsar
I feel like Flopsy is a name I know but I can't put my finger on it @pallid coral
pallid coral
resto druid @clear pulsar
ionic temple
@lilac plank what tourney bruh
clear pulsar
Yeah idk any of these people on zhrey's team
lilac plank
@ionic temple well all.of them
pallid coral
that's not really a name that sticks out you know
clear pulsar
Boetar's not into the Shadowlands arenas
near tapir
guys, who is best for feral dru in 2v2?
weak hinge
prot pala
pallid coral
hpal or disc
clear pulsar
Disc is giga
You're capping
Never lose
Always crank
Dark arch convoke kill 2 people at once
pallid coral
I mean disc is the best healer if you pla y it well
hpal is a lot easier tho
fbecause that spec has infinite mana
clear pulsar
Jaime playing spr
They're farming these pract games
But when tony goes feral they'll slay
Tony's hilarious bro
void nimbus
RBGs which one ...
- Apex 190
- Circle 235
pallid coral
apex
vast vapor
235 circle monka
wraith depot
Hey everyone!
I am a balance Druid - any good pvp videos
Strategies
How do I melt ppl haha
Still learning the ropes
I’m especially bad when it comes to healing myself in pvp
I find that whenever I go regrowth - and change stances
I get melted
clear pulsar
You can use Regrowth while in moonkin form
harsh surge
wraith depot
???
Every time I click on regrowth
It kicks me out
Of the form
Same as rejuv
Am I doing something wrong
forest kite
as boomy?
wraith depot
Ya
forest kite
it shouldn't
wraith depot
In moonkin form
crude minnow
swoftmend takes you out
wraith depot
So what if regrowth kicks me outV
forest kite
what is BM?
devout frost
Brewmaster Feral 
devout frost
what is BM?
beast mastery
clear pulsar
ESPECIALLY 2s lmao you don't play feral bm 2s
forest kite
oh
torn notch
pvp legendery power for resto druid can someone tell me plz 🙂
forest kite
y'all talking comps
devout frost
pvp legendery power for resto druid can someone tell me plz 🙂
verdant infusion
torn notch
verdant infusion
Thx you very much
limpid kraken
For all hunter pvp, MM is the goto right now with surv being a niche playstyle that seems a lil too reliant on keeping pet alive vs MM playstyle
no real utility difference between mm and sruv, mm does more burst, so its the goto
devout frost
no real utility difference between mm and sruv, mm does more burst, so its the g...
?
survival has net
bandage
roar
revive pet 6s cast is just to big of a crutch to play with
limpid kraken
he did say BM, and thats bad. i was clarifying what is being played. and im not an expect, yeh i assume surv does have some more utility, i just hear that its not near as meaningful to the meta as burst dmg is
limpid kraken
good to know why its considered then sometimes, its still being played exteemly less than mm at the moment
devout frost
because MM is insane atm?
limpid kraken
i dont think they are insane after their nerfs, but very solid
cold escarp
any pvp guilds on outland EU?
lime light
survi does piss dmg
bigger utility, more dps
MM does big burst damgur
that wins games
clear pulsar
Yeah circle LI necro + surv big rot jungle
lime light
ye, and do nothing till 60% damp
pallid coral
@clear pulsar he means battlemaster i think?
the trinket
nvm
he didn't
he's dumb
azure kernel
should boomy run fury or solstice in 3s? i have mixed feelings on fury
devout frost
should boomy run fury or solstice in 3s? i have mixed feelings on fury
fury if u want to burst
azure kernel
also does convoke prioritize the person ur targeting or just completely random
vast vapor
no, completely random
glossy mirage
Oh, there is a PvP section as well here
stone nest
also does convoke prioritize the person ur targeting or just completely random
Convoke will hit players and pets. They patched out totems. It won’t hit rooted targets so you can root one convoke the other.
glossy mirage
ooooh, that is cool, didnt know that, so i can stun my target and keep one away from me
devout frost
Convoke will hit players and pets. They patched out totems. It won’t hit rooted ...
they didnt patch out totems
glossy mirage
Weird question, but is it possible to make guardian pvp wise? as a main thing, not just as Guardian affinity on other specs
devout frost
Weird question, but is it possible to make guardian pvp wise? as a main thing, n...
fc in rbg would be only option
glossy mirage
i am bad at RBG 😦 Well generaly, I am bad at PvP xD
lusty locust
As a NF resto if I take Dreamweaver do you think I should go 2 endurance but skip on Soothing Voice (for Empowered Crysalis + Tireless porsuit)
or do I go Soothing Voice and CDR on NS ?
brave vale
How do you survive as moonkin in arena ? i'm constantly focused and literally cant get out of bear form without taking the risk of dying instantly
devout frost
How do you survive as moonkin in arena ? i'm constantly focused and literally ca...
you only get out of bear form once a minute to offload your burst
errant panther
how big is the pvp trinket bonus? I'm comparing a 184 pvp trinket + 207 insignia VS. 184 pvp trinket and 223 IQD. The stats from IQD feel really big compared to insignia
devout frost
how big is the pvp trinket bonus? I'm comparing a 184 pvp trinket + 207 insignia...
dont use pve trinkets
brave vale
@devout frost so i should go kyrian ? i'm nf
devout frost
<@!506387240155480075> so i should go kyrian ? i'm nf
NF you have to kill in first convoke
errant panther
dont use pve trinkets
Thanks. any big reason? I'm NF so the boost to my convoke is pretty big with iqd
clear pulsar
How do you survive as moonkin in arena ? i'm constantly focused and literally ca...
You find a healer
near tapir
pvp trinket bonus is just huge. Even if you have just 20% vers, it's +8%
glossy mirage
my style is to hide and wait till they focus on my ally, then convoke xD still get focused after xd
stone nest
they didnt patch out totems
devout frost
Thanks. any big reason? I'm NF so the boost to my convoke is pretty big with iqd
because no trinket is ever combarable to the vers increase
clear pulsar
how big is the pvp trinket bonus? I'm comparing a 184 pvp trinket + 207 insignia...
It's a 40% bonus to your existing versatility so you tell me how big it is for you rn
Depends on your vers baby boy
devout frost
ah ty
clear pulsar
If you have more than 20% vers it's at least a 7% damage increase
To use the trinket combo
You're big time CAPPING if you use IQD in pvp
brave vale
I must be really bad, i feel useless as moonkin when convoke failed
errant panther
currently at 13.38% vers : )
lusty locust
Any Resto pvp around ?
errant panther
thanks for the help mate
lusty locust
clear pulsar
<@!506387240155480075> so i should go kyrian ? i'm nf
Idk how good kyrian is in pve, but if you only pvp, there's a good case to be made that you should play kyrian yeah
lusty locust
this is my dilemma : Left or Right ?
clear pulsar
devout frost
I must be really bad, i feel useless as moonkin when convoke failed
yes ur supposed to do that
there's a reason people high on ladder dont play convoke
devout frost
https://i.imgur.com/TvtGAMq.png
do u need the healing or do u need the slow
clear pulsar
Nah that right side is trash
LOL
The overhealing putting a shield up is sooooo minuscule, and endurance >>>> finesse
lusty locust
I guess it depends on the situation but the Left side needs Tireless Poursuit to be swaped and it's not possible to do easy
clear pulsar
It's 10% of your overhealing becomes an absorb
10% of your overhealing is soooo tiny
lusty locust
Yes I know the overheling shield is irrelevant, but Tireless poursuit is really good
devout frost
It's 10% of your overhealing becomes an absorb
tf that sucks
stone nest
Tireless pursuit is good if you are using oath and feral but I know how people feel about that. Conflux is 100% better.
devout frost
i thought it was 10% of healing
brave vale
any good moonkin pvper on youtube that you could suggest Reformed ?
devout frost
any good moonkin pvper on youtube that you could suggest Reformed ?
pins
lusty locust
I don't think I'll play Conflux, most likely swap it for NS cdr
devout frost
I don't think I'll play Conflux, most likely swap it for NS cdr
then u cant dps tho
stone nest
I’m all about the rdruid one shot
devout frost
🙂
crude minnow
If any night fae balance druids are still using boat, I really recommend getting used to dreambinder. It makes you feel way less useless outside of convoke
stone nest
Wws are like you aren’t getting away from me when in reality they are the ones who aren’t getting away
I don’t run oath much
clear pulsar
Talking about mihikasa
lusty locust
I don't run oath
lusty locust
I play verdant infusion
devout frost
If any balance druids are still using night fae, I really recommend getting used to kyrian. It makes you feel way less useless
lusty locust
My goal is first play a more passive pace with lot of defensive until I start getting my rdru reflex back
crude minnow
LMAO true. I like convoke for rbgs still anyway
lusty locust
then craft oath and play the offensive way
vast vapor
I feel so bad for having to play NF until proge ends
devout frost
I feel so bad for having to play NF until proge ends
im still kyrian on progress 🙂
stone nest
I think I’ll craft draught for offensive play for my next one
clear pulsar
This is what I'd do with my tree if I was trying to play resto night fae probably @lusty locust
vast vapor
what boss are u on
devout frost
I think I’ll craft draught for offensive play for my next one
dont draught
devout frost
what boss are u on
sunking
crude minnow
Boat vs dreambinder in rbgs with convoke is still a hard choice for me tho. Like boat convoke is nutty, and solstice is decent damage with boat up as well
clear pulsar
I honestly think there's more of a case for Draught than any other lego, for resto damage @devout frost
devout frost
This is what I'd do with my tree if I was trying to play resto night fae probabl...
tfw no free 15% HP shield and CC immunity for resto
stone nest
dont draught
I have oath crafted. What makes you think I listen to reason?
devout frost
I honestly think there's more of a case for Draught than any other lego, for res...
wouldnt circle still be better
clear pulsar
Like
void nimbus
In RBGs when being like, FC, solo flag holder etc - go PvE gear for max ilvl/damage or lower ilvl and go more vers? Here's my gear for an idea (can click sim again to see all)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/Wn12uMj69Up7xgKMYgXdh
clear pulsar
Circle is ok but it makes you oom faster ykno?
clear pulsar
In RBGs when being like, FC, solo flag holder etc - go PvE gear for max ilvl/dam...
Grab some weakaura that calculates your EHP and wear whatever gives you highest EHP
lusty locust
This is what I'd do with my tree if I was trying to play resto night fae probabl...
That's more of less what I was going for yes, I heard Ursine Vigor was very good too
devout frost
That's more of less what I was going for yes, I heard Ursine Vigor was very good...
its not
clear pulsar
That's more of less what I was going for yes, I heard Ursine Vigor was very good...
Idk I think it's kinda ass but who knows
devout frost
In RBGs when being like, FC, solo flag holder etc - go PvE gear for max ilvl/dam...
depends how much you lower ilvl
void nimbus
PvE gear is like, 219, in what i'm in now for max vers and 2x pvp trinket, 211
devout frost
i meant individual pieces obv.
lusty locust
And yes for sure I'd like to be NEcrolord but I've got to stay NF for now
queen copper
Vers gonna be better most likely. That’s nit too@much lower per piece
What’s the vers difference
clear pulsar
@lusty locust ursine is absolutely not better than innate or whi, and I probably wouldn't run 3rd endurance most of the time
devout frost
PvE gear is like, 219, in what i'm in now for max vers and 2x pvp trinket, 211
u wouldnt want to downgrade more than 10 ilvls for vers
and with ur current gear i would prob not even run double pvp trinket
stone nest
I’m aware necro lord is bis I’m also aware that feral aff isn’t and good as guardian for climbing but nf feral aff is fun as hell.
void nimbus
I've downgraded ~8 ilvl, and dropped like, 226 quantum and 226 shulkers for 184 PvP and on-use PvP trinket
clear pulsar
https://wago.io/EffectiveHealth @void nimbus grab that and just see what set of items give you highest EHP
And don't use garbanzo beans pve trinkets
devout frost
why are you running single innate instead of wellhoned though @void nimbus
stone nest
Well honed is the best conduit out of all potency endurance and finesse.
stone nest
That’s what I run as resto in arenas lol
clear pulsar
I’m aware necro lord is bis I’m also aware that feral aff isn’t and good as guar...
You're capping everyone runs feral aff lmao
Not necessarily every game
stone nest
You're capping everyone runs feral aff lmao
Dude all the r1 guides are YouTube are garbage then cause it’s all guardian and tree guys that put me to sleep.
clear pulsar
But it's 100% the default for every resto druid climbing
devout frost
stop watching random yt guides
weak hinge
mage rogue the hardest counter for moonkin in 2v2?
clear pulsar
Well in bear you dingus!?
void nimbus
87/51
devout frost
But it's 100% the default for every resto druid climbing
its like when ppl link the supatease boomie guide from like august in here
clear pulsar
You're not gonna be noform flag running
devout frost
where he is running necro/boat
void nimbus
Lol, i was going for a baseline
clear pulsar
Honestly bro just wear highest ilvl it doesnt really matter
devout frost
oh ur going guardian
clear pulsar
Do biggest dam
devout frost
i thought it was feral nvm
void nimbus
It is Feral
devout frost
clear pulsar
You're flag running as feral
void nimbus
But our RL has me like, FC'ing, ninjaing etc
clear pulsar
Interesting
raw drum
yo boys, what alt u running next to cat? i feel like nothing is fun compared to feral for some reason
void nimbus
It's been surprisingly successful atm, but then we are like ~2.1k mmr 1.6k cr
void nimbus
Just kind of PvE'ing people down
devout frost
yo boys, what alt u running next to cat? i feel like nothing is fun compared to ...
im not running cat so none
clear pulsar
Dead ass seen arcan mage FCs bro anything works if you're better than enemy team
devout frost
lusty locust
Speaking about mmr
clear pulsar
yo boys, what alt u running next to cat? i feel like nothing is fun compared to ...
I main night fae feral and alt necro feral
Actually 2 entirely different specs, no BS
lusty locust
Is RBG mmr ever got reset / soft-reset ?
raw drum
Actually 2 entirely different specs, no BS
was thinking about that too but i want sonething that aint drood i guess
lusty locust
Because I use to be 2300+ in RBG a long time ago and I queued with random 1500 xp 0 cr peeps recently
and we were at like 1900 mmr
crude minnow
Rbg mmr is pretty volatile especially with 0 cr peeps
stone nest
If they go on a win streak to get to 1500 the mmr is going to be pretty high
lusty locust
And I was wondering if I may had an old MMR not reseted
clear pulsar
@tiny oar watching markers play Flourish is fucking hilarious I love it
stone nest
Was in a group that started at 1600 mmr the other night and we ended at 2300
lusty locust
Idk we were queuing 2100 mmr team with a no voice 1500 xp max team of peeps with 0 to 1300 cr
it was wierd
So I was wondering if my old mmr may haven't got reseted since well forever
lusty locust
okok
fluid oak
Question guys. Is ebola cleave playable at all this season?
stone nest
Y’all shit on flourish but with how many purge comps there are it’s really nice for cenarion
Especially with verdant. You can extend a fat cenarion for a hot minute
clear pulsar
Idk I think it's hilarious
He's deadass playing HOTW Flourish with Draught
Or something
LEGENDARY
void nimbus
So I inted my PvP rating to sub 1,800 today because i'm bad at PvP - does that mean my next item i buy i can only upgrade to 213 or is the upgrade system a "once you've achieved it" type deal?
clear pulsar
Upgrade is based on CR
stone nest
It also works though bomb and duel. I personally like it. Can save someone when NS is down
clear pulsar
Vault is based on highest bracket you had a win in
clear pulsar
Yeah to upgrade more items
void nimbus
Np's
stone nest
But what else are you going to run? Germination and just get all that ish dispelled? Photo isn’t amazing without the lego
soft heart
Does weapon require 1800 not 1600 for 213 upgrade? I upgraded all my other gear and off hand but cant upgrade wep
clear pulsar
If they're using globals to dispel they're not using globals to dam
But yeah by all means make that shit work
I'm not saying it's bad I'm saying it's funny
clear pulsar
Does weapon require 1800 not 1600 for 213 upgrade? I upgraded all my other gear ...
Do you have enough honor?
Weapon's same as everything else
soft heart
Yes I have 8k honor
clear pulsar
Maybe you dropped under 1800?
stone nest
I feel like germination is an oom machine
clear pulsar
Relog
soft heart
i did
stone nest
Ticket time
soft heart
Thats why i was asking if 213 wep needs 1800
clear pulsar
It's 1600 for 213 you're right, it is bugged
Weapon's same as every other slot except it gets 233 at elite
queen copper
Oh can we boost to 213 now. I’m out of town for 2 weeks 😦
crude minnow
If you use legacy of the sleeper and use incarn in bear then swap to cat do you keep the immunity to cc?
teal hinge
@soft heart did you reload?
soft heart
Yes
abstract falcon
boat tooltip says nature/arcane, does that apply to starsurge too?
clear pulsar
Yes
vivid canyon
Any advice on how to kill a Holy Paladin + 1 melee in 2v2 as a moonkin?
we are having the toughest time 😦
Feels like they have like 3 bubbles
abstract falcon
looking to make a meme build for my boomkin, where we go into 2s as ele/boomkin and try to kill people in the opener - boat or timeworn dreambender better for that?
vivid canyon
our team is Moonkin Holy priest
teal hinge
@abstract falcon boat if you going for gibs
abstract falcon
ah so you just incarn out of stealth and 3x starsurge then
with fury
kyrian btw too
teal hinge
Well I mean you said you were trying to kill someone in the opener
abstract falcon
the plan is to hit kyrian, unload 3 starsurges then ele gets to burst with 12% crit
teal hinge
So why wouldn't you blow incarn on opener if you are trying to kill in opener.
abstract falcon
definitely incarn in opener too
incarn -> kyrian /onuse -> fury -> 3x starsurge -> ele burst
teal hinge
Yolo
abstract falcon
yeah i mean who knows lol it might work on some people
teal hinge
Catch them snoozing maybe
abstract falcon
any reason dreambender would be betteR?
teal hinge
Might be more damage with crits with incarn up
teal hinge
Higher rating you prolly won't get an opener kill
full forge
if u put a socket on pvp gear from the venari item, then upgrade the pvp gear will the socket remain any1 know?
teal hinge
Especially with immunities
crude minnow
Gonna go for 2100 in rbgs tonight. Gonna craft legacy of the sleeper for FC, any tips for FCing?
(boomy on all maps except ctf)
clear pulsar
Blizo's team is Skill Capped now
Well it is
Tbh
Talking about mage ye?
Bro no way shifting power is the best
No chance
Oh
Yeah wtf
Why would he want maro on NF
It's just tilting to play
You are cycling cds and getting setups and then Convoke just dumps 3 surges on a pet/clone/one surge each player/whatever
The gambling tilts me so much sometimes
You do it a split sec too early and one Wrath goes thru before Hex finishes casting and it ends up breaking it
Like it's not worth the headache bro
short sapphire
Unholy dk or WW makes me sad to face for this reason, I just wreck those poor ghouls and the tiger
crude minnow
Full mooning a pet lol
clear pulsar
But then imagine you're facing like godcomp
And your kyrian gets purged every single time immediately
@vestal citrus
Bro imagine if we just had idk something that deals flat damage and is nice you know?
Instead of all these bullshit ass covenants that don't really work proper in pvp
Imagine fire mage klepto your kindred spirits and cumboosts your ass with 15% inc dam
Maybe they can mindfuck some team tho swapping boomie kyrian to boomie night fae midseries
pseudo vessel
Hi!
Very new to druid pvp.
If I try to macro several cc's to a focus target, will it discern and cast the right one? Like, if I put hibernate and cyclone together, with hibernate first, will it try that if its another druid then try cyclone if not? Any way to achieve this?
clear pulsar
No
No way to achieve that
Dont bind multiple spells on same macro
They're also different DRs, just because a druid is in cat or bear form you don't want to only Hibernate.
pseudo vessel
Trying to free up some keybinds, just looking for options
clear pulsar
You want both spells bound separately 100%
pseudo vessel
Not at such a high level or rating, that it matters yet, min/maxing DRs. Literally first week, but point taken.
clear pulsar
Min maxing DRs thats the first time I read that
But yeah uh
Don't do that
There isn't really a way to do that anyway
stark wolf
guys whats best combo for resto druid in 2v2 ?
clear pulsar
Ww ret arms enhance mage spr
pseudo vessel
More questions, as I'm setting everything up, is it possible to cast @ focus ursols? I have it @cursor now, but dropping it on focus would save a little time
pseudo vessel
k, ty. I thought maybe just my syntax was wrong
clear pulsar
Yeah the game can not play itself in fact
queen copper
Just @proud ledge or @cursor
pseudo vessel
Dude
pseudo vessel
Setting up pvp macros is not the game playing itself. No need to be snippy.
clear pulsar
If it was meant to be cast on targets itd be castable on targets tho
queen copper
You should have those bound anyway tbh. No reason to be out of buttons if you aren’t already using arena 1,2,3 macros a lot
pseudo vessel
wow. such amaze. so good.
clear pulsar
Many binds
I wonder if I can make a macro that only casts Skull Bash if my target is casting a spell
stark wolf
I wonder if I can make a macro that only casts Skull Bash if my target is castin...
and no fake kicking 
rancid sundial
any tips for killing an aff lock as boomy? lol. let's say 2v2
weak hinge
@rancid sundial hard if he and his healer aren't stupid. they dont die to your surges.
they just pop netherward inbetween them or fear you ..
novel spire
Assuming no mmo mouse, and not wanting a keybind for absolutely everything, what are the key targeted abilities to have keybonded to arena 1/2/3? Interrupts and cc?
Keybound*
Entry level rated PvP player trying to get the basics
clear pulsar
Idk it's down to preference
Lot of people just use focus macros
Or yeah interrupt and cc arena123 especially spammable cc.
Like cyclone
novel spire
Nice, k
rigid linden
finite turret
Anyone tested other resto legendaries than verdant for pvp. I feel others might give additional offensive pressence to the table. I am a noob at pvp and still figuring out the full resto toolkit and i feel the elder druid might help me burst people with my dps at 2s 🤷♂️
devout frost
if ur after dmg the choice would never be elder druid
stone nest
Hotw with 20% uptime isn’t terrible
Draught is probably more consistent
Idk if any feral legos would work well.
Problem with feral legos is you’re going to be giving up any sort of healing component
finite turret
Hmm well since I am playing 2s with a rogue I think we have burst windows rather than constant dmg so the only issue is keeping him alive. Offense is the best defense would be the goal here since double dpsers bonk us if left alone cause they sit on rogue and he can't restealth for another round of burst.
Anyhow I thought about getting elder druid, wanted to sanity check with ppl that have more experience & better game feel. Thanks guys 🙏
stone nest
95% of people here don’t like it