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i play with a DH in 3s.. and [Twin Moons] sometimes break hes cc ?
I had a 2 mil healing game last night. Straight pumping
hes stuns ? is that normal ?, and will my sunfire do the same ?
Problem is RBGs is centered around ST damage right now
no one is running rot comps
would u guys say solstice is better if ur nf?
currently been running foe as nf, but just read from guide that its for kyrian mostly
Idk doesnt really matter much
am not boat
Could play Full Moon and hardcore CRANK
full moon seems pog
but yeah, since im running dreambinder i guess foe/full moon is better since ur getting kill potential outside of convoke
haha ok :p
never tried it
No but it's big ASP

I did layer 2 twisted corridors with the faster dots power and full moon procs bro
NASTY
EVery global's either moonfire or surge
full moon is nice in torghast for sure
i guess ill stick to my build then, feels like a lot of druid talents are good tbh
so can be hard choosing :p
Maybe it's the other way around 
Talents aren't very BIG impact
You can make some meme shit work
yeah :/
idk how it its for other classes, havnt played any for a while
but some feel like they have one build and thats it
Idk there's definitely set talents that are better htna the other options for boomie
Just like any spec
But like
You can play other talents than those
And win games
You can play talentless and win games
It's not like suddenly your spec is terrible cuz you took Warrior of Elune or something
Bean was playing fucken Moment of Clarity of all things last week
Let’s talk about feral

nf preferred leggo for pvp
I have Boat for PvE but I was going to me timeworn so I could have a haste/vers piece
would want vers mast
if ur NF
fair
haste is kinda trolling since it has no interaction with convoke
i have 30% mast and 13% haste rn tho
do bgs give renown catch up?
I’ve seen people get renown for bgs but idk if it’s consistent
whats the most consistent/fast way?
You get renown for completing the threads of fate stuff too
holding a 80% winrate in rated arena
bg , dj , rbg , M+ , Calling , Raid boss etc have a small chance to catch up
rated arena also
Is it 25 or 30% when we start to get drs on vers?
@clear pulsar feral ftw
100%
DR isnt a thing
this isnt cc chaining
You 100% get diminishing returns on vers after a certain point
I just did a google
its not a DR
you are using the word wrong
vers doesnt become worth less
just because it requires more points to reach higher percentage
I’m not using the wrong word I just think your association with it isn’t with stats.
99% of pvpers see dr and think of diminishing returns on stuns
diminishing returns is definitely the correct term
By definition each point of stat after 30% is worth less. Not worthless but has less value.
Its diminishing returns on the base stat, not the percentage. Which is where i think the confusion is
On the other hand, Vers has increasing returns by default defensively
Each point is worth more than the previous
Very good point.
So the real question is when is it a net neutral value or at what percentage does 1 point in verse have less value.
No one knows and it doesn't actually matter either
Cuz of the trinket set bonus, vers is never not gonna be your best secondary stat for pvp
I mean if i can at some point start prio some haste mastery over verse down the line I’d be happy.
My mastery is booty but I’d like bigger heals at some point
vers increases healing too
I mean the mastery for resto is pretty dope
Obviously verse is the best. I’m not saying it’s not but 4% increased healing for each dot on a target is the mastery and that’s pretty nice down the line.
is 8% haste fine for boomy 
its fine we dont appreciate haste in my household
my casts have to be as slow as i am
🧠

Im planning on crafting the swiftmend legendary for PVP and I assume it would usually go on shoulders instead of hands, I currently have 235 legendary legs that would be swapped to 207 legs, and 220 shoulders would go down to 190 for the r1 legendary, is it still worth to put on shoulders or should i just put them on hands
Any tips for my boomy getting blasted by duo melee? Like is the goal to only be in bear form running away if melee is in reach?
Typically it's enhance shaman giving me issues
do talents differ in RBGs compared to arenas?
Well what spec are you asking about?
whoops, balance
I play night fae.. its really fun with a holy pala.. and do a lot of dmg..
But is Kyrian just a better pick ?
The difference is pretty small in the end, like 15 intellect total.
Doesn't matter much what slot you make
could anyone give some general tips on feral and how to do damage in 3s?
Is that pin worth glyph? Seems like it will be a frequent question as the stats get higher
You take Treants and FOE if you're on base sit duty @past relic that's about it
ty
@cerulean light i dont play arena on my boomy that much, but I found my biggest preoblem is being in bear TOO much against a team like that. Your partners need to help you create space with CC and pressure so you can get away and start CCing and pressuring yourself. Outside of frenzied regen, remember that boomy form is still tanky
Side note. I don’t see people using soul shape enough in lower ratings (when they are nf). It’s kinda huge to be able to port out of a frost ring or create space.
Sounds good.
I probably should talent into more burst and just have a burst off
U can wild charge out of ring but it is nice as another movement ability 4 sure
Options are always nice
You can also soul shape out of a spear if you time it or get lucky
Only playing on oceanic servers now for sure.
@rich kestrel there is no haste option for pvp conq gloves, the gloves are generally the verdant leggo
anyone have weakaura to pop when you are conse aura mastered?
Any Guardian Druids I can reference for pvp?
Does soul shape break snares?
And root?
How do i get full moon and half moon as druid ?
Is full moon when i go CA and halft when im just in solar og lunar ?
oh, its a talent ?
It does not
didn't think it would have new abilities since it wasn't updated in like 5 years
Idk but you are a Druid soooo /cancelform
It has general callouts pretty sure that you can just add spells to
Like big dam or cooldown or smth
yeah idk what i want it to show yet but figured i should get one that has everything to begin with
Also it's gladiatorlossa2 whicj was updated in december 2020
You prob found the old version
Imagine using dbm in pvp

beware
Pve I get it, it's harder content and you gotta be on ur toes
But pvp just too easy fuck them addons
same tho
pve is a lot esier than pvp
im blind irl
Well pve is almost built around dbm at this point
You can 100% pve without that type of addon bw or dbm
Im 100% reliant on dbm
The fight is a computer...
you know what it does every time
but before they put it in heavier restrictions on addons Dbm played the game for u
Idk what notification is built in, dbm on by default
but it ppl know what the computer does every time how do they even wipe
fucking idiots
bro HFC
Dealing with19 idiots are hard

i agree
And then again in bfa with the friendly nameplate restriction too
yes reformed.. but if the chess do the same moves everytime ?
i think I could even win
YET
its more like random grandpa in the park
i have some top plays in ulduar back in the days.. pve is a lot esier than pvp 😄 imo
The hell if I'm not
imagine comparing 2008 raiding to modern raiding
Yeeeeeah thats some CAP
half the guild still keyboard turning
imagine saying pvp is easy and prolly being sub elite
no one is saying pvp is easy
ive done 4/10 mythic so far.. its not that hard
Pvp is rly easy tbh
Pvp pretty easy, y'all fucking bad i clap hard
Just CRANK ALL DAY
its still 4/10 on the "hardest" bosses..
there is a reason ppl were at 6/10 day 1
and its not that hard.
the first 4 bosses of raid arent hard wym
Technically it's the 4 easiest bosses
pvp is very easy if u just find rank1 players with u like sanghelios is doing atm
pve nerd casually playing 2800 rating atm
I think pvp in inherently more difficult because the interaction is not base around a pre set of actions.
Dratnos beat cdew mes trill last week
Yeah so did sang
Pveers are just better at the game
listen !!!!!
omg ! 😄
PVE IS NOT EASY !! BUT to get 10/10 is easier than getting to 2800 rating
Yall need to capping
doesnt seem so
😄
I wish I got r1s too I got insane gear
so why are so more ppl 2.8k than 10/10 @ember temple
i went 0-3 in my league promos
:D not exactly
cdew playing hpal

sure but at least sang can claim to be good at something @vestal citrus
can snowmixy do that
her ego is bigger than mine
So are her tits
wtf
any paladins wanna get carried by my gear?
Fak
okay, ask you something.. how many will end up doing 10/10 this raid ? A alot.. how many will hit 2800 ? A lot, but not half as many
Well a lot more people raid than play arena
Naturally
Wow is a pve game first
So does pvp with inflation
Just less so I guess
or 10/10M week before next tier release
Is that a personal attack?
a lot of ppl buy pve boosts tho

I think the top pvpers are the best wow players. Any thoughts?
they have a different skillset from best pvers
But pve is harder than pvp so limit are the best players in wow
But if you put a top pvper in a raid I think they will perform better at that than the top pver will in arenas
Trill really the goat of wow rn
top pvp players do big fuckin damage when its needed
these mage pvp streamers pretty much always just know how to do oneshot since launch of expansion and just kill ppl
The key difference is all pvpers have done significant hours of pve. Dungeons for leveling, m+ for gear, etc etc. A lot of top end pveers dont really play arena ever. Ofc they're not gonna be good if you just throw them in.
Yeah good
ye
there is a easy way to solve the loot problems that exist on pve side atm
master loot
bonus rolls are cancer
Big time
Hitting a dps rotation is easier than reactively pressing all your buttons
Give 1 bonus coin a week but make it guaranteed loot
that would be very abused
so why do ppl still fail their pve rotation
Rotation isnt the depth defining portion of pve at all
and fuck up movement phases as boomkin
did u know solstice procs twice in CA @clear pulsar
FAK U
Do you guys think feral will age well in this expansion in pvp?
What
dont think the spec will be much older than any other spec
No one can predixt the future
Wtf does that mean?
castrated
imagine playing arms
Probably the same reason they don’t press defensives
?
but if u do ur rotation u dont need defensives
I am so confused with jayspillz
Like spr mage queues?
i do enjoy playing vs godcomp
yes
my disc dies in .1s
in opener
thru ps barrier
so hard to find 2,4k grp from tinder with only 1900cr rn
I'll play with you if you msg jayspillz "pve is harder than pvp" after every win
can do that
they asked for 2.4k grp not 1.4k grp
If you sum my 2s and 3s rating I'm 2.4 total

It was a pvp comparison. I was saying shitty players don’t hit buttons
Regardless of content they are doing
ty glyph
brb qin
free wins on lakerz
hog ?
hogman ?
cartoonz ?

cartoonz
2021
whats he gonna do
trinket db?
XD?
only way to deny the db sheep is play rele
but rele vs rog mage in 2s

sounds very good plan
oh yes delicious some FREE CR
Is it still haste = mastery > crit for boomie for secondary stats?
yea thought versa was a given
sorry
was mostly asking haste vs mastery
why are boomies still called chickens when i havent seen a boomy not using glyph of stars in forever
I'm here to ask the important questions
theres plenty of
maybe less in arena because I think its a mental thing against mages
If I get nature or arcane locked then voke what happens?
What covenant do suggest for resto in arena?

game too easy?
ugh there are so few resto druids above 2400 for RBG;s its depressing
I suck at balance so hard
same
So apparently the feral aff bug with master shapeshifter is tied to yseras gift. It falls off when it ticks a heal. Did we already know this?
Can’t convoke if nature locked. Arcane you can
1 moon hit 2 targets
indeeed
Anyone know if there is an addon that allows me to set healers on the side of my screen so i can clone them?
prolly need extra hardware for that
Elvui sarena gladius
Plenty of the arena frames show you spec
And many allow click casts
Does that work for RBG's without being super toxic?
Use battleground enemies
You aren’t getting a list of only healers though
best leggy for guardian flag carry?
berserk stamp roar vroom fucking vroom bby
will starsurges/starfalls cast by convoke trigger the bonuses from timeworn dreambinder/starlord talent/etc?
no
Does Disentaglement work on warlock slows?
So Dreambinder or BOAT for Night Fae Boomkin? Also, mastery or haste?
Even if I am using burst?
I mean the haste part
For Convoke
Wouldn’t mastery be better if I am focusing on Convoke?
you dont really wanna put all eggs into convoke
Ok
its sad life in the arena if u dont have haste
It will proc empowerment bonus for eclipse though
As boomy? No go guardian
Chest or finger for legendary?
Chest has more stats
Thanks
Hi, if i reroll from scratch now, will this reroll have a 2700 Conquest cap once 60?
Pretty sure
Haven't tried with a fresh one yet
yes i just leveled this druid last night
Nuts, I will pex an ele for my lock mate and go out of this misery.
😂
would BoaT with solstice/sotf be compbrable then to standard dreambinder/foe/incarn build then? My other druid is kyrian just exploring options with this druid as convoke
playing around eclipses sounds aids but just something I'm considering
Some ppl like it, like dipi
I wouldn’t run sotf yea. Either incarn all in with nf or starlord is good for anything
Both gameplay are fine, kyrian with dreambinder foe, or boat with solstice
No he like to play with boat
Ahah
I don't know myself I hate pkay around eclipse with boat but some like it.
Play
seems like it'd be decent for like aff/boomy or owlplay
Yeah but I don't know, in the end dreambinder always have some value, close to 2 crit from boat
And the value if you crit on an 20% buffed surge is even spicy
should you be going for 3 ss before convoking then with dreambinder?
With dreambinder and convoc, you dump ap on surge > convoc > for ( if not already at 100) dump surge x5 with that sweet mastery buff
Foe*
Or you get interrupted and cry.
solstice vs foe as boat/nf is tough
it gives a open bind then, maybe I can bind disarm now
like if you proc solstice then immediately press incarn?
It stack if you enter in eclipsd
Then instant incarn yes
Don't know if it's intended
will it show up as 2 separate buffs?
No
It look like it's refresh to 6s
But it's obvious you have a lot more shooting star, just try it
On dummies
It's why I think it's not intended but who care
So much crap are intended and left untouched, I think some shooting star won't hurt ppl 😂
are you not supposed to use 5 combo points on Rip in pvp?
tf?
damn
what makes it like that
always used a 5 combo starter
uh ur gonna have to reapply pretty often
if u do 1cp nowadays
they nerfed sbt
from 5s extend
to 1
well i dont even bother doing it in opener
i just send the zerk and 3 bites
do like a 3 or w.e afterwards
zerk in the opener?
ya depends
and whats your win condition with feral usually
also 2s or 3s
wow so fucking cool my own kick is a nature lock
because bashing someone's skull is very natural and magic
kill in a maim or bash
think of it like a rogue
u will never kill people without stuns
unless u just convoke randomly and theyt have no hands
@vestal citrus pls dont die
I cant stand lies
Tf RIP is the last thing u should worry about
In pvp
WHO cares if the RIP ticks for 600 or 700
No one
resto/guardian affinity for feral?
am i the only one playing bm
is there no balance pvp guide in wowhead?
Easy permanent ban if you report it
bless our souls thank the lord we have expert tian here to guide us

soon TM
silence works on that pull DKs have?
Woaho amazing u can press cyclone on dr
woaho amazing u can be a dick
Mad ape or smh
Would you recommend resto, cat or boomkin for 2v2? I have 1930 in resto now. But no pvp legendary yet
So I can craft any.
All 3 of them are good
If u wanna lfg, resto is the play
Faster to find ppl
And u can abuse broken spec like arms ww ret
To Play with
Yes pretty much this, cuz every Burton they press does half od your hp
No that is u
Iam a king of this place
And i wasnt srs about wow sińce bfa came
Who gives a fuck about this game anymore, where multi blizzcon champs can get farmed by random mythic raiders
Moonkin in arena is fine with 3 different legendaries? Fast tick, crit, higher damage on main ability?
How does a feral druid beat a pally 1v1
If its in wpvp
U need to open and reset every big cd
Bop bubble loh
Kite on wings, dont trinket blank hoj without wings
And dont forget, do not die
I'm half thinking of making a pally just for pvp they seem op
Is best 3v3 team for feral, hunter , feral , disc?
Should I level a warlock hunter or pally for pvp?
Hey there guys, I checked the pins but can’t find an answer to my question unfortunately. Is BoaT the best legendary to craft for a NF Balance Druid?
Level what u like/wanna Play
at this point mages and rogues deserve their own pug section
half the 3s pugs are RMPs
But what one would you choose?
If you wanna play melee in PvP go pally, ranged and can take time to learn go lock for that sick affliction play.
Ahh I just don't know lol
I am NF should I craft BoaT or Dreambinder ?
Hello! Im a new cat and i have big issues doing dmg. Does anyone have any pointers?
@short sapphire skillcapped says dreambinder
whats the talent tree for boomy in castercleave?
@short sapphire BOAT for Night Fae, Dreambinder for Kyrian
Hey, guys! Is there any website to check most used conduits from top ladder players?
Balance
Running convoke one atm
Nice, got it 200
Thanks! How about finesse and endurance? Is it worth spending time to get the better ones?
For finesse the cat move speed one or the cc cdr
How is feral looking in pvp?

U can check condults
@manic arrow
@vestal citrus 2 lies in 2hrs, give adress iam going to ausis
Yes
I was supprised to, sińce u cant check it on Blizzard armory
But data seems to be alright
how do oyu beat RMP?
Yeah raidbots been able to grab them from armory for about a week now
kindred spirits is better on my self or on my partner in 3s?
thanks
🙂
have they made any changes to convoke in arena? last like...5 or 6 arenas I've done I exit stealth with massroots, silence, incarn and convoke. now lately I dont seem to do any dmg with this combo, the spells go into my enemies but they dont take any dmg from them? I can see some spells flying but it doesnt seem to do anything.
At first I thought maby it didnt do anything cause they werent in combat yet, so I started popping of a moonfire aswell before convoke, but it still doesnt seem to work
Yeah triune ward is absurd
you cant hit rooted targets with convoke
you wanna rephrase that reformed?
not really

you meant to say you need to get them with damage first?
How would you rephrase that? @scenic snow
no?
convoke doesnt hit cc'd targets if damage would break cc
just like starfall
If your only target available is rooted, it won't do any damage to anyone @errant panther
goes for incap, sleep, fear, root etc
You can do like a beam + vortex combo on someone it's kinda hilarious
Especially if your partner has a stun on top
A night fae stun with 90% slow afterwards

tru
Top the healing meter, half of it FR, the other half Swiftmends
Are u clean fresh and ready yet
use verdant infusion on boomie in 2s @clear pulsar

still play with guardian affin
LOL

vortex?
Ursol's Vortex
Ursol's Vortex
thanks for the replies guys, I can guess that all the times the combo worked,it's cause someone trinketed my roots but didnt manage the interupt before they died
u only really do root beam on kill target if ur kyrian
I thought usually people recommend using Guardian Affinity as a boomer
otherwise do it on 2ndary character
The rootbeam on killtarget thing is like very specific targets tbh
what situations would you use Restoration Affinity instead?
Mostly for big swaps on healer
Like disc/rdru/hpal can use a defensive while stunned, but can't if they're silenced
So you kidney+beam on top
the ones where u wont need the extra defensives and want vortex
As boomie not many
I can't think of any situations where I wouldn't want defensives kek
well if ur doing NF cheese game is over anyway if u fuck up
so might aswell be resto
Guardian aff is good, resto aff is good too tho, idk it's kinda personal preference but you almost always just default to guardian aff anyway
Safe stay alive good stuff
Incap roar is just so good. Would never opt resto tbh
Yeah as boomie you can just wait out the astral power generation in bear form
So there's no good reason to play anything else
As feral you don't really come out of bear at 15 CP for 3 bites in a row so idk it feels harder to justify sitting in bear for 20 seconds straight.
But feral loves the dmg reduction. Isn’t their big issue being bursted? I mean if u don’t play NOW..
It's the same as any other spec idk
Like Glyph said you just can't afford to sit out for that long idk
Gotta go fast all day
I mean you do
Ofc
Always default to guardian aff
But can see more of a case
For resto aff as feral
Than as boomie
Especially cuz you're throwing out regrowths every finisher too
Idk i been running guardian aff 24/7 as feral now
Why would you go resto as feral? Vortex ain’t too good and you also lose pressure when u switch to mend.
Always have a hot rolling on someone to drop a swiftmend
Vortex is great bro hello?
With the freanzy % buff condult, freanzy heals for 5.7k tick
Jealousy
Drop it on the ww, maim convoke, they try to trinket and port but CANT IDIOT GET VORTEXD BACK
Vortex is worse than incap roar
Sure I can compare two different things
So u are an ape
What makes incap roar so good in your opinion? @weak hinge
Feral has like 3 stuns to setup clones
Aoe stops for setups that don’t dr stun for your own goes
As jungle you fuck up trap dr on healer you just lose a lot of pressure
Incap roar isn't a stop really
It breaks all the time
Yes it is?
It doesn't stop fists either cuz gets parried
Idk bro my bleeds always insta break that shit everytime
The most important thing you want to stop can't be stopped so like
Bit worthless imo
Breaks very fast cuz 3 bleeds up on people
Idk wws arent too much of a problem for me anymore
It's really a setup for clone
Win most ganes
Imagine thinkijg prot pala is a problem rofl
Biggest pepega
Hpal is far more annoying
Protpala is 2nd best healer in the game
After hpal
But it also then has the most cc of any spec
It's like playing bfa destro as a healer
HAHAHAHAHHA
Then why is prot a problem
Incap roar should be a stun
So ww feral
Big dammers
Or Frost ebola
Grip roar big brutal slashes
Dab
Ofc
And Bash should be aoe stun
Like u are mighty
Angry
So u stun everything
Around u
Bite should execute from 80%
Not bash
Maim aoe stun tho
Feral only
Fuck em kids
It's a budget kidney rn make that shit BANG
Is dual-weild better for boomie than 2h staff?
Any use of feral druid for rated BG, compared to bomkin?
Says the guy that had to ask yesterday what an FC is
its just worst rogue -for guarding a base
and just not good as melee in team fights
with resto hotw
u can 1vs2 ppl
that are not good
Primal wrath with apex FARMS
And fero wound is so nice for flag maps
i did like 10 games ~~ as feral
did 2 as arms i think
vs triple affi double boomkin spriest team
in mines
and never queued that bracket
in my life
Yeah rbgs not fun as arena
the most obv and anoying thing about cap maps like eots/arathi is
ppl are apes
and will never learn
when u defending a base
u dont stay close to a flag
or rogue blinds u and cap
lmao
just stay like 15 yards away
and he cant do shit
the most annoying thing about cap maps like arathi
is that arathi and deepwind take fucking years
"i did few games at 2.2k mmr at the begging of the ssn
feral seems pretty bad"
lol thats a classic 1
good 1 tian
Primal wrath bro
u might one shot someone almost
Get MAD apex procs
Machinegun bites
thats your PW damgur


I accidently queued as feral instead of boomie and god it sucked ass @tiny oar
im gonna use apex as resto in 2s fuck it
ye it suck af

Do u think it would perform better if I had an agility weapon and feral Lego? @tiny oar
but once u face a player with one hand on keyboard second on mouse
with a 40 + iq
it sucks
those players dont do rbgs
only 🐒 in RBG
Did 3 keys and both torghast layers few weeks back with int set 
Hilarious shit
Topped damage in one of the keys too
Nice players
ok listen all of u
GOD gamers
Shadap tian
only mount?
yes fearless leader
i might pass on it
mounts and glory
Yeah it's only pet/title/mount
prolly not
no flame for the woman
Wtf
unless u get paid in succ
respect women
no
for carry
Tian already has big succ don't need more
Will pay with toe pics @tiny oar
nice nice
Boost me to 1.2k
LMAOOOWQEQWE@
Then do it
so iam forced to?
Cause wowhead comment section are ass at the game
ofc
u are the one that does it
i might be the top guy also
on that topic
but angry Zechey
bro toe pics get u to HotA/HotH if you find the right person
is above me too
always a classic
Yeah that right person is glyph
Its my only attractive feature we got this lads
glyph would do it for sure

Bro wtf
His waifu
wow beautiful
fotm reroller btw
pls
no ofc
Ok I reroll warrior and we farm then
yuge
bring back old bt
venthyr warr??? @clear pulsar
mean
i cant catch up
on my warrior with renown
smh
still like 17 or 18
i want the succci succi wings
its 20 needed
Yes old BT + baseline FF is bis
i think
Also make LI scale with mastery so it does actual dam
i dont like ff
which CC trinket should I use as boomkin in 2v2 ?
ya lets go buddy im rdy
You're disgusto
should i go for haste + versatility or mastery + versatility (as night fae boomie)
haste vers fam @sullen gazelle
alr ty
should i have hp bar frame active on teammates
like unit frames personal preference i guess
actual raid frames prolly
also ab the raid frames
i see all the good pvpers
basically have a gigantic fucking icon with the time remaining
of every important cooldown
on everybody
both frame and hp bar
how do i get that
gladius/ sArena 4 enemies
Bigdebuffs
oh ye i forgot








