It seems so underwhelming
#pvp
jovial pine
clear pulsar
Bro why the fuck do you do nothing but whine then?
I'm so confused
All of your damage is nature/arcane
jovial pine
Yeh, I imagine dreambinder being good, but I mainly play 3v3, so having the dots tick faster is pretty awesome aswell
clear pulsar
But also, Dreambinder is tremendous
Circle is trash
Dots dont kill anyone in arena
Starsurges do
tulip falcon
starsurge benefits from arcane/nature if that's where the confusion is
meager flicker
dreambinder even as NF?
jovial pine
Starsurge and Starfall is my main dps bursts tho, with eclipse - and they're all astral, they don't benefit from the crit at all
tulip falcon
they do
clear pulsar
Astral = arcane + nature
tulip falcon
astral is just arcane+nature
tulip falcon
yes
primal bane
need to proc that critical thinking moonfire
im not whining about anything thats not facts
clear pulsar
The game does a tremendously shit job of explaining schools of spells/cc for instnace
jovial pine
That seems very unintuitive 😂
primal bane
it even tries to??
jovial pine
Not at all
primal bane
thought thats just smth u have to search yourself on wowhead
tulip falcon
tbh I know a boomkin at 2.6 cr in 3s atm who didn't know that astral wasn't a separate damage type yesterday
clear pulsar
But basically multischool spells calculate the damage in each individual school, then just hit the hardest way it can
primal bane
well u dont need to know that to be 2.6k
tulip falcon
it's like frostfire as well
you'd expect him to know it since he was saying the same thing about boat
tardy hare
but if astral is arcane + nature
jovial pine
So balance of all things is pretty stable then
tardy hare
and u pick up the -25% nature dmg thing in torghast
how does that affect astral
!!!????
riddle me this
clear pulsar
It doesnt
jovial pine
According to what I read just now, nothing
tardy hare
pog
clear pulsar
I mean it affects nature damage but astral stays full unless you also pick up -arcane
Basically it calculates both ways, then hits whichever is hardest
tardy hare
epic
jovial pine
That's pretty neat to know
So circle is going out, and balance is the way to go
Good shit
clear pulsar
Dreambinder is hte way to go really
jovial pine
Dreambinder sounds awesome too
clear pulsar
Circle's ok if you're necrolord feral, otherwise it's a pve legendary
Also don't be necrolord feral 
devout frost
Pve feral leggo
jovial pine
Ahh, I picked up from icy veins it's bis for pvp
tulip falcon
yea icy veins is usually not a good source in most cases
devout frost
Resto too tho <@!506387240155480075>
For m+ for dmg yeah
clear pulsar
Imagine needing more healing in m+ 
last basin
dreambinder better for kyrian boomies?
devout frost
dreambinder better for kyrian boomies?
Yes always
clear pulsar
Yeah 100%
jovial pine
Boat seems very good for kyrian too tho, no?
clear pulsar
So close boys
jovial pine
If you proc eclipse when you pop the kyrian one
It shreds the dots and makes your starsurges hit hard
last basin
do u always go fury of elune as night fae?
clear pulsar
Boat seems very good for kyrian too tho, no?
The only time BOAT will give you more average damage than Dreambinder is 1. if you're completely turreting away at people like in RBGs, or 2. when you use CA/Incarn and pop a big Convoke to kill people.
devout frost
Still less dmg than dreambinder
jovial pine
Aha
devout frost
Boat only outdamages dreambinder if you get 4 crits @jovial pine
clear pulsar
Yeah basically all the Convoke 0.5s one shots are based on Incarn + BOAT + Convoke
jovial pine
Holy
primal bane
you go fury of elune regardlesss lol
devout frost
And 0 crits with dreambinder
primal bane
its best talent choice in pvp in that row
clear pulsar
That's the only time BOAT is better
weak hinge
@clear pulsar do you think the dreambinder is also BIS when being Nightfae?
primal bane
what
jovial pine
Fury is in the same row as solitice, right?
primal bane
what u go glyph
devout frost
Fury is in the same row as solitice, right?
Yeah
devout frost
<@!102094910101913600> do you think the dreambinder is also BIS when being Night...
Yes
clear pulsar
I'd probably never run BOAT regardless of covenant myself personally IMO @weak hinge
But I also really dislike playing a caster
At 170ms
weak hinge
thing is i have a rank 3 boat currently
devout frost
Boat/Convoke makes u more predictable than american politics
last basin
rofl
weak hinge
u heal?
last basin
do u use starlord on pvp?
clear pulsar
I play feral
weak hinge
wtf
tardy hare
🐒
clear pulsar
It's nasterino bro legit never die
You're soooo unkillable
Give rogue mage the opener every single time
devout frost
Boomer play verdant in 2s anyway
clear pulsar
Boomer play verdant in 2s anyway
You wot
devout frost
clear pulsar
Feral legos are just all garbanzo beans @weak hinge
The best feral lego is basically a shittier version of BOAT
clear pulsar
Where it only gives you anything when you pop Berserk once every 3 mins, and it's unreliable
clear pulsar
Verdant boomer 
last basin
one more question boyz
last basin
if u go nf/boat do u ever go for the on-use trinket
tardy hare
pogggg
last basin
instead of the proc?
devout frost
U never go for proc
tardy hare
if u go nf/boat do u ever go for the on-use trinket
you go extra hard for the on use in that case
last basin
hmmm
clear pulsar
Probably just use Emblem tbh cuz you better fucking kill someone without Badge anyway
Just use Emblem so you can live until next Convoke
If you're going for that cheesy shit
tardy hare
nono just overkill it
primal bane
why is convoke targetting immune/cyc targets anyways
clear pulsar
It's already like 4 levels of overkill bro
last basin
tbh i mostly want to do m+ but i find pvp fun
clear pulsar
It only doesn't hit targets that would break CC @primal bane
last basin
so im trying to be able to perform in both
clear pulsar
Cyclone doesn't break, so it targets Cyclones
devout frost
Easy math
clear pulsar
tbh i mostly want to do m+ but i find pvp fun
You can make more than one legendary
But regardless
You can run BOAT just fine
It doesn't matter nearly as much as reading this channel would make you think
Where every minute of the day is spent answering people about legendaries for boomie or whether you should drop 10 ilvls for versa in gear.
last basin
ofc
loud wedge
rank 1 in rbg is playing the astral power one?
clear pulsar
rank 1 in rbg is playing the astral power one?
Bro I'm gonna punch ur fucking throat
last basin
ofc im trying to use the optimal setup with what i have
loud wedge
fly to europe bro
last basin
thats why i am asking
loud wedge
i dont wanna get shot before you can punch me
clear pulsar
COME HERE BOY
tulip falcon
ye i actually noticed him using the astral power one and we were confused af last night why he was using that shit
meme
clear pulsar
HELLO BOYS WE IN IT
clear pulsar
I bet AP procs a shitton if you're just turreting away, especially cuz in RBGs you get more astral power from shooting stars and pvp talent
Compared to single target pve
Or bear form arenas
I think you'd be surprised
With the lack of damage
In these sub 2k rbgs
People dont kill shit bro
Yeah but AP more pad prob
BIG dam
I mean why would you play dreambinder or boat if you're rotting people with starfall
tulip falcon
pretty much every RBG boomkin I know is running boat
devout frost
i dont play rbg cause not degen
tulip falcon
there are some DH but not many
tulip falcon
tbh there's actually a lot of comp variation right now
a lot of EU teams running quite melee heavy
you'll see a lot of rets, DKs etc as well
clear pulsar
Target calling isn't rly a job for one person in the group idk
It's usually pretty easy to see this one dude overextended, or this guy got 3 externals on him better swap
tulip falcon
if someone sees an opportunity to swap they just call it
doesnt really matter who
everyone should have awareness of who they should hit and what to look for
clear pulsar
Yeah just say shit you see
tulip falcon
in lower teams i think you'll usually see one dedicated tc just so you can have some co-ordination at the least
loud wedge
lower teams is sub 2k?
tulip falcon
Ye what I meant is the lower teams more have the "only listen to the TC" thing going on
clear pulsar
Yeah that's what I was talking about
tulip falcon
we usually have whoever is the loudest fuck calling targets
loud wedge
need to grind up to 2,2k so i can scream with the big bois
clear pulsar
Like you see LFG and people are like 'looking for DK who can TC"
tulip falcon
aoe boiz
clear pulsar
Like bro that's cap
tulip falcon
lmao
i remember that was prevalent in cata/mop
like only DKs can TC apparently
"bro they can grip in kill targets!"
i remember rot comps being popular late mop when affli was busted
double affli every team
meanwhile we had nazrins on destro
dude was nuts
loud wedge
didnt play mop, but wasnt prot warr broken af then?
tulip falcon
wasnt really broken and it was only like the first 2 or 3 seasons you would see them
was basically prot warr or guardian as the tanks
they were about as good as each other generally
loud wedge
is the tanks job easy enough to just swap from boomie to guardian for a couple games? given you got the legendary?
tulip falcon
i mean yea most FCs are just boomkin mains
loud wedge
you dont use dh as fc?
loud wedge
im eu too
tulip falcon
by boomkin mains I meant that they main boomkin but swap guardian for FC maps
not actually play balance to fc
loud wedge
yeah that was pretty clear
tulip falcon
I saw a couple when climbing but above 2.6 I haven't seen any veng
clear pulsar
I mean if you arent FCing as mistweaver are you even playing the real game?
Gotta go fast BOYE
tulip falcon
Ye still not seen any boomkin FCs, is this just like an NA thing or something
primal bane
whats fc
tulip falcon
literally only ever veng/guardian
surreal heron
flag carry
primal bane
why would a fat owl that cant fly
loud wedge
what makes druids so much better than dh? tankyness?
primal bane
hold the fucking flag
tulip falcon
Ye that and it can definitely soak more damage than veng
clear pulsar
Veng kinda squish if you get stunned with no defensive
loud wedge
god a goodass cheat death aswell..
tulip falcon
but the sleeper legendary pretty much makes guardian stupid for it
loud wedge
which one
tulip falcon
and it won't ever get nerfed since it's only used in rbgs
one that gives cc immunity with berserk/incarn
so 30 sec of straight up immunity
clear pulsar
Veng leaps + trample took like 2 years to get nerfed
And it was probably way more bizarrely OP
Than guardian with sleeper rn
tulip falcon
yep
loud wedge
time to make sleeper
tulip falcon
not to mention all the ways DH could double jump out the maps when they first released
definitely saw that one coming
primal bane
cleave is unbelievable
how u even counter that
at any point in the game you are susceptible to dying
kindred galleon
Get versa
hidden wind
what covenants should i use as boomkin for arena?
loud wedge
pins bro
clear pulsar
You can only use one covenant at a time also
tiny oar
x fucking d
kindred galleon
loud wedge
gottem moonmoon
primal bane
damn
typhoon literally cancels every cast in the game
but not convoke baby
guess how i find out too
this game so dogshit
loud wedge
you dont cancel starfire in starfall either
clear pulsar
There's definitely something dogshit in here
loud wedge
clear pulsar
It's glyph's post Legion career ofc
primal bane
so it cant cancel polymorph since mage can technically move with it?
guess teleport not counting as movement
tulip falcon
?
clear pulsar
I'm stumped
tulip falcon
you mean if they shimmer while casting?
primal bane
ye
tiny oar
what the fuck is going on lol
clear pulsar
BOOM ROASTED
Yeah bro I want to give you a title
Mrs 2Face
meta's so good rn feel like everything's viable
GAMES DOGSHIT OH MY GOOOOD
tulip falcon
its called addiction
loud wedge
r1 is only 3s yeah?
clear pulsar
That's cap bro just stop playing
tulip falcon
its like those meth addicts that live in the sewers and know its killing them but still have to get their fix
loud wedge
if wow is killing you, you're deff doing something wrong
tiny oar
the mythic plate set looks so nice man almost wanna fucking raid 4 it
hushed pivot
Just farmed 2750 conquest, was wondering what to buy priority wise. Should I aim for weapon or get the cheap ones to get as much ilvl as possible?
loud wedge
but only almost
hushed pivot
Resto
clear pulsar
Weapon's biggest stat budget slot
Buy the staff then just buy some big upgrades idk
loud wedge
rings and trinkets last
clear pulsar
Necro feral's legit BUSTED
tulip falcon
rings and neck are nice for the versa
i know some people on ladder picked those up early on
tiny oar
dont see u online and ya @clear pulsar
tiny oar
O_O
weak hinge
i think ill craft dreambinder on ring...
loud wedge
😮
weak hinge
got 226 chest with haste/vers from mythic and my rings have no vers.
peak yacht
Playing 2s with a healer (as boomie*) - outside of convoke, what should my plan be to get a kill? (Won't have dreambinder until next week)
ok - thanks :D
primal bane
am i supposed to be taking 66%+ of my team's total damage taken as boomie
primal bane
idk man every arena i play is patterned
tiny sigil
primal bane
is anyone EU here?
tulip falcon
ye
primal bane
are u good
tulip falcon
haven't touched arena much this expac so depends what the question is
primal bane
i just want to skimirhs with someone for a few matches
and give me legit any advice
i do not comprehend what i can do wrong i feel like the boomie gameplay is too simple to fuck up
clear pulsar
and give me legit any advice
You get so much advice from glyph in here everytime you ask a half decent question
tulip falcon
boring grindy stuff while i work only
primal bane
recording sucks ass discord accepts very small files
tulip falcon
upload it on a site and send the link
doesnt take long to upload something on youtube
although should send it to someone who plays boomer because I don't 😆
vital parcel
if you would want to upgrade ur trinket as boomie, what trinket would u get? Since the conquest one has crit instead of haste?
empty venture
Alright got the chance to alternate between tank DH RBG and Guardian druid with sleeper, I really feel we're the chosen one, so many things the DH can't do or that can solo kill/drain defensive DH. Is there something I'm missing outside of tradition that would still justify DH? I mean sure they can disengage and defend on graveyard without drawback, but does that really compensate for being very vulnerable to rogue, unable to go to the flag room by themselves (need bop or some escorting) and an overall lower tankiness?
tulip falcon
DH is pretty viable as well, there isn't a massive difference between them and I think people honestly just run whichever they can invite easier. You just have to play around them and depending on comp you might find that DH works better (like if the enemy team is lacking melee) so it's not really a massively black and white thing as to which one is "better"
I think the main reason people honestly run guardian a lot more than veng is not really because it's massively better but just because you'll have like 2-3 boomkins and one can offspec
forest kite
@empty venture yup, guardian is just much much much better . + boomy is better when you don't need any tank than dh
empty venture
whistles in feral main
forest kite
at least better as flag carry
tulip falcon
DH will work better vs certain teams than guardian and vice versa also, but guardian is a "safer" pick if you want a dedicated FC
yea its just not worth it over having another boomie spot in most cases atm
forest kite
i like dh for defending base/rotate , but guardian is much stronger as FC
tulip falcon
who needs base rotate when guardian can't lose bases 
empty venture
and yeah, but I'd rather defend as feral, so I can ghost and do mean shits on the map, uless they have a mean stealth comp with two rogue or rogue feral and similar
tulip falcon
yea but defending as feral is not gonna happen
empty venture
(in which case, bearsitting time)
tulip falcon
guardian sleeper actually works well for ninja capping with a rogue as well
primal bane
"you have no damage sry"
tulip falcon
you can incarn cap and it forces rogue to open
empty venture
that's, actually pretty good
forest kite
Is someone here who would coach me feral pvp? I am stuck in 1.4k cr, dominating all bgs and stuff but rated arena is 1.4k the current ceiling, i would pay for it of course
devout frost
never playing fucking league again
stiff nacelle
Is someone here who would coach me feral pvp? I am stuck in 1.4k cr, dominating ...
Is there anything specific you're struggling with? In my exp helping guildies push, usually if you're stuck at 1.4k it's something basic you're missing and not necessarily worth a coaching session
devout frost
Is someone here who would coach me feral pvp? I am stuck in 1.4k cr, dominating ...
i wouldnt pay if ur at 1.4k either
cause as myjin said then ur doing something basic wrong
that can be solved without coaching
forest kite
yeah but i do not know whats the problem tbh
empty venture
I would say half the time it's confidence to commit to a kill plaguing new ferals? we're squishy, it often feels safer to back and play it slow, making sure the healer is safe etc... but we have the killing potential, we have damage, we have sustain and a mean burst, if they don't play it safe they are the one that are gonna lose
forest kite
therefore it might be helpful to let someone watch me playing
empty venture
sometimes it's hard to make the difference between a death trap and a nice chunk of meat that doesn't know he's already dead, but that's a problem for future you at higher rating
primal bane
huh
feral players at every skill level choose a single target
and sticks to it like a koala with rabies
for 20 minutes if needed
tardy hare
tulip falcon
ye idk about that bro
clear pulsar
therefore it might be helpful to let someone watch me playing
Yeah record and upload on youtube
Ain't nobody gonna sit in discord with you giving real time coaching bro
Yeah fuck that shit
exotic wolf
anyone playing boomy in rbg? what are the talents?
exotic wolf
im nf dreamer
devout frost
1222322 then
exotic wolf
thanks
patent idol
im so sad
new moon
isnt used since Legion
its 1 of the best looking spells ingame
clear pulsar
You can play it
Esp if you're like
Spr boomie
Or something
Big cc chains
Draws kicks away from you
tulip falcon
@vital parcel for talents its generally something along the lines of this
then if you're night fae run dreamweaver soulbind
middle path for endurance condis
vital parcel
Okey cool, doesnt it seem like you get rage starved with it tho? since ur not getting any rage talents?
tulip falcon
Okey cool, doesnt it seem like you get rage starved with it tho? since ur not ge...
Not really, you're being hit a lot so you're generating a shit ton of rage just from that. Raging frenzy is also 60 rage every time you pop regen
vital parcel
ah ur right, forgot about the pvp talent actually
thanks
I havn't played much bgs lately so it might be my inexperience speaking
tulip falcon
You could run bristling fur for FC maps, brambles is more of a defending thing
But I've never found rage to be an issue
vital parcel
ill try ur build out and see 🙂
empty venture
bristling fur is usable while stunned, but I feel bramble gives a little bit of extra fuck you to rogue (if they aren't careful you can break their sap chain by putting them in combat) and you can never have enough of that
primal bane
well he wasnt all that
got 2 matches
but nothing insane happened dude just tgried to 1v1 disc and we lost
exotic wolf
^^
stiff nacelle
head
stiff nacelle
actually how important is leggy even for feral
will occasionally be the difference between a kill and a healer topping target from 2%, won't carry you to glad or anything
gleaming patrol
Legendary for balance pvp? I dont trust guides
surreal heron
stiff nacelle
Legendary for balance pvp? I dont trust guides
the average answer you'll get here is about 500 rating lower than the people who write the guides, being conservative 😛
weak hinge
just check people on the ladder to see what they are using..
surreal heron
pins have some good balance information, too bad they don't trust guides
deft apex
Best PvP Legendary for a Night Fae Balance Druid?
queen copper
Pin
tiny oar
Do u get bad ping when we queue @clear pulsar ?
clear pulsar
Same ping as usual @tiny oar
BR realms are hosted in the US I don't get any better ping
It's same datacenter as like, Sargeras and stuff
tiny oar
Oo okay gotcha what's ur regular ping then
primal bane
dreambinder vers haste
cold escarp
thanks
clear pulsar
Some matches I get this, some games I get 155 or so, I think it depends on what realm we get phased too
And what time of day too
winter wharf
hey guys, anywhere to find guides for rated battleground boomkin?
kindred galleon
Ss and don’t sf
devout frost
hey guys, anywhere to find guides for rated battleground boomkin?
Ask ppl in here
There isnt really a specific guide
kindred galleon
Cavoke
echo basin
There is no conquest belt w/ Mastery Verse, right? im not just missing it
cold escarp
why i see many top moonkins still run balance of all things
full eagle
cold escarp
outplayed
forest kite
@cold escarp because it's still good , but dreambinder is better
vast vapor
why i see many top moonkins still run balance of all things
yeah and they might not have any other balance lege yet
forest kite
@cold escarp Also there is a lot of Night fae , and BOAT can be definitely better with convoc , but if you're kyrian , dreambinder is better
cold escarp
i see thank you @vast vapor @forest kite
its my first druid ever in 10 years of playing
dont know shit
tiny oar
🙂
forest kite
the problem with boat , if you want to delay even a bit your burst , boat is useless at all , so you always have to play around , staying at 100 AP waiting for entering eclipse then burst ( + you have to crit go get any value )
with dreambinder you just don't care , ppl can't play around , you don't have to play around or think about it
and you always get value from it
- if u crit on the +20% buffed surge , it's nuts
cold escarp
btw is there any haste cap or its always best?
forest kite
Versa > haste , anyway there is mostly versa on the pvp gear , you will end with like 500 haste for 1000+ versa
forest kite
haste better because you wanna cast faster mostly
but , mastery give more damage , Crit can give you some free win ( yesterday i did 16680 + 17200 surge on a rank 1 WW monk ) i one shoted him , without that we would have lose 100% xD
forest kite
y
then you should be Versa/haste everywhere exept on badge if you have the Conquest one ( crit so .. ) and second ring ( versa mastery )
cold escarp
btw on use trink or proc?
forest kite
on use
cold escarp
ye thats what i got i macroed it with bond
haughty compass
Having both covenant druids at fairly good gear, I prefer kyrian play style a bit more
forest kite
overall you wanna use Kyrian ability / Fury of elune / badge every single minutes + Root/beam
and if you are nightfae , Fury of elune / Badge every minutes , + convoc > Fury of elune/ badge every 2 min
clear pulsar
Idk Convoke's kinda its own go almost
Like if your partner can get cc on healer
You just press it and crank someone
You clone offtarget or smth
clear pulsar
Nah you can do it, just depends on positioning
If you los the cloned target it won't throw shit into it
forest kite
to be honest , at high CR game the best way to convoc is simply to rootbeam healer , take some distance / convoc and even if it's interupted go for fury of elune+badge and pump Surge with that huge mastery buff
playing convoc like u were kyrian i mean
haughty compass
Problem with that is convoke fucking prois cloned targets
At least it feels that way lol
forest kite
yeah never clone , just try to isolate one target and root beam the other
and don't think too much about convoc , just think about that sweet mastery buff even if it's interupted
clear pulsar
Just play feral aff and root beam one, maim another, meld rake stun kill target and crank
haughty compass
...
forest kite
smart player will ALWAYS keep something to stop you so the best way is to convoke like u were playing kyrian
stun on kill target / root beam Healer , try to cross CC the last one > convoc
haughty compass
Fear storm bolt beam is usually our big go
forest kite
you would setup that with or without convoc anyway
lime light
stop talking
tiny oar
no wonder
tiny oar
catJAM
tiny oar
this is a banger ty tian
tiny oar
jam jam jam
clear pulsar
2 absolute BOPS
Another personal favorite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmI3vAIhbE
hollow junco
Hey guys, are boomies good base sitters for rbgs? I feel like we should be with stealth and all but I never know what I'm really trying to do besides call incs
Like what is your thought process or plan for actually stopping a cap
clear pulsar
Hit them
hollow junco
go away
like do I pop out and moonfire, am I trying to dunk on them
or just max ranging
clear pulsar
Yeah you go away and hit them
Boomie's insane at everything in rbg
Why boomie's particularly good is treants + fury of elune
lime light
hit them up
clear pulsar
Which keep stopping cap when you're in crowd control
You can also stay alive for pretty long 1v1
So boomie can spin for a long time until help comes
Just dont be near flag and keep hitting/surviving
vast vapor
would u guys just prefer dreambinder even as NF
haughty compass
I do boat but I do some pve too
upper lake
how do you guys use EO and Quantum Device on Sire Heroic? or you just don't? cuz the CC he does fucks up everything
lime light
?
vast vapor
you just use it normally but this is pvp channel
upper lake
oh, my bad sorry
lime light
maximum damgur in goes
summer oasis
@pallid coral help me with this
pallid coral
yeah feral hpal
tiny oar
maximum damgur in goes
yea like me and f2f 
lime light
lime light
iam not sure what to play
after renown 21
red or green
feels like red is better vs most of the comps, cuz hot phial will be useless vs some comps
but might be pretty good vs shadowplay
forest kite
as boomy i'm using Red since 21 renow .
tiny oar
yea big hot phial sounds juice vs rot shit but anything else red looks nice
cursive leaf
comps like firemage bomie + heals or DWTS are still viable?
dreamy lintel
Fire mage anything is viable.
clear pulsar
Boomie anything is viable
vocal mulch
New extension, but still playing druid \o/
I'm currently building my balance PvP, was wondering about the stuff / legendary slot...
Do you know if there is a build or guide PvP oriented? (besides the Icy Veins one?)
lime light
consider checking pins
vocal mulch
Oh yes, I haven't checked them yet (just arrived) 🙂
lime light
thanks for your services
vocal mulch
You're right, and I'm usually the one "please stop asking same thing, check #blabla" 🙂
clear pulsar
It's down for now
forest kite
comps like firemage bomie + heals or DWTS are still viable?
Lot of thing is viable, but if you don't go for the top comp ( so with ele pal, sp pal, war pal or ww pal) you will've to try hard
cold escarp
best way to farm memory of timeworn dreambinder? normals or heroics?
forest kite
It's also pretty crap as boomy to don't play with a dps partner without any stun, myself I'm playing boomy lock pal, and we've to rely on hoj to kill ppl so it's pretty hard for him to repent healer after beam etc.. . With an sp, the pal could keep all cc for the healer
forest kite
Pretty the same with fire mage, you need an hoj to setup a kill
clear pulsar
best way to farm memory of timeworn dreambinder? normals or heroics?
Drop rate goes up with difficulty, just do a key and it should drop pretty much 100%
forest kite
Yeah but I prefer play average comp with friend/brother than god tier comp with random xD
cold escarp
problem with key is that i dont have ilvl for key
its a fresh boomie
did a mythic 0 it didnt drop
forest kite
Also lock/boomy/pal could be really really good if some tune happen, lock is just overshadowed by so in any comp
By sp*
forest kite
It is, still sp is just a better lock right now in any comp
clear pulsar
Mindgames insane spell
clear pulsar
It wont get nerfed and they wouldnt be gone idk bro
clear pulsar
Spr is such a livelord spec
forest kite
Lack of survivability from lock VS experienced cleave also
clear pulsar
Mad defensives
cold escarp
thats true sp is livelord
forest kite
Where sp tank any shit
cold escarp
its tradeoff dmg vs survive
clear pulsar
I swear ret spr is insane
cold escarp
not true chanimal is top ranks with lsd
cold escarp
oh yeah that too
forest kite
And other lock are playing with ele pal
cold escarp
mind games + ua is ridiculous
clear pulsar
I dont know if mindgames is getting nerfed tho bro fr fr
forest kite
If u play lock without an hpal, you just lose every single cleave sadly
clear pulsar
I think they'll nerf very few things
forest kite
I don't know priest have too much thing right now and mind game is the cherry on the cake
pine compass
Really niche macro ask - I want healthstone macro'd if not in arena (for my m+ group), otherwise overgrowth at mouseover (or target, or player if not) if in arena - can't find much on in arena vs. out of arena binds that aren't just targetting specific arena# - any ideas?
clear pulsar
Ww dam, intervene, maybe rally, word of glory. Those are the big ones.
clear pulsar
Really niche macro ask - I want healthstone macro'd if not in arena (for my m+ g...
You cant make a macro that checks your instance type.
I dont think
pine compass
I was thinking you could potentially get round it by checking arena1 exists and then casting at mouseover, but maybe a pipedream
forest kite
Revert crit from 175% to 150%, nerf mindgame, nerf word of glory, nerf rally gg pvp fixed
clear pulsar
Ah yes, nerf busted hybrid healing and defensive cd = more dampening
Thats some uuuh logic?
Some type of logic for sure
forest kite
One shot are coming from crit, rising sun kick, surge, combu, crit during wings for ret etc etc
clear pulsar
Back to bfa meta if you nerf survivability you hear me?
cold escarp
i mean the crit nerf
forest kite
And other free kill come from mindgame
Nah with the crit nerf you just delete these one shot from the game
But you still have enough to kill with a simple cross cc
Yesterday I've won two lost game because of lucky crit
Surge x2 in a row at 17k
It shouldn't happen
pine compass
You cant make a macro that checks your instance type.
Can get around it with if talent equipped actually - should've just thought for a few more mins 😉
forest kite
Crit hit way too much for any class
And about mindgame, you just have to watch game from shadow play, just because of mindgame being a broken speed covered by ua
Outside of that the comp is crap
Broken spell*
guys whats decent partner for guardian in 2v2? i need something to do when im not running rbgs
vast vapor
does guardian do like any dmg :D
strong dock
Does Boat stack with CA? I’m a resto main but I dip into boomie for pvp.
queen copper
Can get around it with if talent equipped actually - should've just thought for ...
That will trigger with wm too
queen copper
Really niche macro ask - I want healthstone macro'd if not in arena (for my m+ g...
Maybe give this a go. Haven’t tried myself but adds additional arena conditional https://www.townlong-yak.com/addons/m6/conditionals
sterile vessel
Any resto here to give insight if resto-frostdk works in 2s?
forest kite
when i see how many insane plays must resto druids do to win 2s on high mmr im kinda meh whats the point xd
vast vapor
anyone played resto/sp to 2,4k or seen it there?
lime light
with rsham
lime light
prolly need to play super agressive
clear pulsar
when i see how many insane plays must resto druids do to win 2s on high mmr im k...
Whats the point of playing a game the way you enjoy ye?
What's the point indeed
WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT
Idiot
acoustic nebula
Convince me to change to feral, go
bitter harness
no
acoustic nebula
It's too easy it's not fun anymore
I don't even use Convoke it feels like cheating
forest kite
Convince me to change to feral, go
Go feral to play fmp for free rating
33 mage for 18 rmp, 11 fmp, not bad still better than boomy at high cr, feral could be even more represented at 2.8+ just not enough mage priest for everyone 😂
clear pulsar
None of the 7 hunters play jungle?
Not to mention the ones tagged as survival
A bunch of mages play with warrior too
I mean both specs are pretty good, boomie and feral
But you're just talking nonsense
forest kite
I'm talking about 2.8+ cr, and pretty sure these 11 feral play fmp
clear pulsar
Zev plays feral lock or something, and he's 2 of the 11 ferals above 2.8
Fox plays jungle
Axtin plays jungle
Tony plays jungle
Cassidy plays jungle
forest kite
They are not at 2.8+ right?
grand sapphire
Hello! this is my first season as feral druid. Do you all have any good youtube channels or threads i can check out?
clear pulsar
They're all above 2.8???
forest kite
If yes my bad, then it's even better for feral
Two comp able to reach the top is pretty decent
clear pulsar
A classic
Double down on spewing nonsense, then turn being corrected into 'oh so i'm even MORE RIGHT'
forest kite
For high cr I think feral is fine, just not many ppl play the spec
clear pulsar
Anyway
forest kite
I don't know what u're saying dude, I was pointing the fact feral is fine with a single comp
So if they have two it's even better?
haughty compass
Guy is a blast at parties
forest kite
Think before spitting on ppl sometime xD
clear pulsar
He's registered in the tourney
lime light
with woma?
forest kite
i'm not , boomy are more played than feral from 0 to Top ( 500 boomy for 200 feral ) but feral are still less played at higher CR but more represented , so feral for 3s ( not as individual class ) is definitely better than boomy ?
clear pulsar
Yes there are more rank 1 players that play feral
clear pulsar
And multispec casters aren't gonna roll boomie when spr and fire exist
Naturally
Doesn't really mean jack
Sub has better representation than spr ww and ret
lime light
218 boomkins in top 5000 eu 3s
forest kite
it does , Feral fit better in the meta right now in top . Also rogue is worst as individual class compared to WW or Ret , but fit better the meta playing RMP at high cr ?
lime light
107 ferals in top 500 eu 3s
true pendant
Just roll ww/war for free rating
lime light
10% of bookins prolly resto
so around 200 boomkins in top 5000 eu 3s
not gonna talk about NA, handicapped realm
forest kite
i'm not saying Feral is better/worst than boomy or even fire mage is better/worst than boomy , boomy is super fine right now but many class fit better in the meta 😉
lime light
relzah pog
clear pulsar
They're ad hoc gaming
clear pulsar
That russian dude that used to talk in here
With a weird name
Is playing too
He plays feral lock
You remember?
lime light
Zakat
yes
with arthos
and the homo hpal prolly
that was kissing a guy on stream
yes
forest kite
There is also an boomy lock hpal around 2.8
clear pulsar
Lucy and borugg are playing too
lime light
i would say
lsd 2
biggest rng win condition
if ele crits and boomkin crits
at the same time
someone is going down
i could even see it being good with rsham lmao
so aids actually
forest kite
Lsd2 is boomy lock
forest kite
But yeah boomy ele is definitely our best comp
remote cave
As boomy, do you use Kindred spirtis on yourself or teamamte?
clear pulsar
Tian pls stop talking in my channel
clear pulsar
You're scaring my friends
forest kite
Prev is the one playing with pally and ww right?
lime light
best caster
best melee
best healer
in the game
sure
that comp might be viable
forest kite
xD
lime light
'HOOOOOOOOOOOOOW DO U LOSEEEEEEEEEEE
forest kite
Tian is in the troll side for now 🤗
lime light
"we played soo good, tunneled one guy, kidney / dance cheap chain on DR / sheep not found / blind death'ed / unhealable dam / immortal
forest kite
I prefer that 🤗
true pendant
Just play jungle
lime light
survi jungle doesnt feel good into sub rmp, but mm yup
river finch
aff lock / moonkin / rsham. legendary suggestion? is circle best for rot or just go with BOAT? i'm deciding on what to level 4
clear pulsar
Circle's pointless af
true pendant
Imagine playing surv 
lime light
french brain
stray sigil
sinful nova
What’s a good arena add on for like enemy cds?
stone nest
Got 1800 in rbgs last night. Insanely easy. We ended up playing at 2200 mmr no problem.
Big upgrades finally
stone nest
What’s a good arena add on for like enemy cds?
Omnibar and gladiusex are good.
lime light
Tony feeding to 2.7k double bm prot pala team
oblique wharf
Incoming frost mages and assass rogues
forest kite
They won't nerf before the first round of the tourney so not before at least January 20. These useless buff are pointless xD
clear pulsar
I really do love how my guy set the filter to 2800 to make feral / boomie ratio go 11 / 5
When it's 23 / 20 at 2700
Big brain to make a nonexistent point
What if I set to 2900 then it's 2 / 2
The specs are equally strong bro perfectly balanced
stray sigil
cant wait for ww to just go 2h and do even more dam
POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
tulip falcon
pog is banned now
stone nest
I’m torn about ww because I do think there needs to be strong classes or the game will be boring and slow.
oblique wharf
I'm fine with WW doing a lot of damage, i just dont like shadow clone jitsu doing so much fcking damage like hes a BM hunter
and xuen too
tulip falcon
i don't get a lot of arguments i see when people act like there is no middleground though
fleet panther
anyone know what honor talents to take for rdruid for RBGs?
tulip falcon
i see a lot of tweets like "don't nerf stuff we don't want bfa again"
"buff things instead"
oblique wharf
its cause of the fear of how blizzard nerfs things
its usually with a heavy hand, not incremental
tulip falcon
that's why we're here in the first place
people complained about bfa being too slow
smoky hamlet
Resto Druid feral affinity master shapeshifter talent still broken , please report bug en masse
stone nest
The only thing I think needs adjusting is the fire mage combust conduit and boomie convoke.
smoky hamlet
If you are using master shapeshifter as feral aff it is broken and does not increase your bleed dmg like it says
oblique wharf
I dont think the current PvP meta was pre conceived in any form. Blizzard just makes tuning and changes for PvE, and PvP just turns out a certain way in the end
clear pulsar
If you are using master shapeshifter as feral aff it is broken and does not incr...
It's broken because it just disappears yeah
Look at your buffs
smoky hamlet
They posted a list of changes to PvP they’re working on and Druids got no changes
Tempting to just go balance
clear pulsar
They posted a list of changes to PvP they’re working on and Druids got no change...
There is no list of changes to PVP
stone nest
They aren’t going to change anything till the tournament
clear pulsar
None of those changes is particularly relevant to pvp, they're not pvp-specific changes
stone nest
Only thing that will effect pvp is the frost change
oblique wharf
could you link?
forest kite
I really do love how my guy set the filter to 2800 to make feral / boomie ratio ...
But it's 500 boomy for 200 feral overall so yes I'm right and you're dumb as always.
clear pulsar
Frost mage 9% buff maybe. Assa buff, Fury buff, BDK buff, none of those will matter in pvp
smoky hamlet
Classes
Death Knight
Blood
Bone Shield grants armor equal to 70% of Strength (was 50%).
Frost
All damage is increased by an additional 2% while a two-handed weapon is equipped.
Mage
Frost
All damage abilities increased by 9%.
Monk
Windwalker
All damage is increased by an additional 2% while a two-handed weapon is equipped.
Brewmaster
All damage is increased by an additional 2% while a two-handed weapon is equipped.
Rogue
Assassination
All damage abilities increased by 8%.
Warrior
Fury
All damage abilities increased by 8%, except for Bladestorm and Dragon Roar.
Meat Cleaver talent now increases Whirlwind’s damage by 25% (was 30%).
PVP
oblique wharf
oh so literally the changes that were all talking about
clear pulsar
But it's 500 boomy for 200 feral overall so yes I'm right and you're dumb as alw...
It's the other way around you dingus
oblique wharf
lul
stone nest
And dw is still probably better for ww so it’s irrelevant. Probably just so people don’t feel fucked when they get a 2 handed off the vault
forest kite
You can't even read
forest kite
😈
stone nest
Moon likes to get feisty
smoky hamlet
Druids are supposed to be the chillest players bro
Druid pride Dont shit on your fellow furries
stone nest
That’s the pve players
smoky hamlet
Lol, PvE
inland marsh
Am I dumb, what does the pod tender change mean
tulip falcon
atm you hold a flag in rbg or whatever if your pod procs
until you actually die
you'll drop it in pod with that change
clear pulsar
Moon likes to get feisty
You want a slap too yes?
inland marsh
Ohh rbg flags, right
tulip falcon
ye doesnt affect anything in arena
stone nest
You want a slap too yes?
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
fuck this means they are actually looking at rbgs for changes
Bro just wait until Kyrian gets 30% stun reduction on a soulbind in a few weeks
These people bitching about pod will turn around real fast
tulip falcon
lmao
true
its only while standing still for like a certain amount of time though right?
clear pulsar
Yeah will be insane for mages
With shimmer
Stand still get 20% max hp and 30% stun reduc
stone nest
Next week I’m getting my resto convoke one shot buffed.
tulip falcon
ah yeah that's true as shimmer wouldn't break the timer
stone nest
Pod won’t really be a thing when we have korayn or whatever the name is
tulip falcon
idk everything on korayn except the last 3 seems like sorta ass
stone nest
As a resto I’m juiced
tulip falcon
its like out of combat stuff and stuff that looks catered to pve
stone nest
Meld is so big. I’m so jealous
tulip falcon
i do miss meld after going horde
tulip falcon
refunding a faction xfer is really rare these days
clear pulsar
Assholes
tulip falcon
gms used to give you free shit sometimes back in the day if you asked and you'd had an account in good standing for years
but their thing atm with character services is "if you've used it we won't refund it"
I'd had free transfers before in like mop
upper lake
which talents are you going in RBGS?
snow folio
Is necrolord that bad for balance PvP? 😦 seems Kyrian and NF are the only ones used pretty much.
stone nest
which talents are you going in RBGS?
What spec
clear pulsar
Idk bro I've never been suspended, I never flame or curse people in this game, nothing bad ever happened to my account. @tulip falcon
I hope they do it
clear pulsar
I see people have icons on there nameplates... how do i get that ?
What icons bro
clear pulsar
Is necrolord that bad for balance PvP? 😦 seems Kyrian and NF are the only ones ...
It's pretty low impact, but you can climb to any rating goal you have as Necrolord for sure.
dense cradle
how do you beat spriest+lock teams? me and my friends are feral,frost dk, disc priest and we get hard bonked by double dot caster
tulip falcon
Idk bro I've never been suspended, I never flame or curse people in this game, n...
Yeah I know people that tried recently and they never seem to do it anymore
final lava
the link to wowhead doenst exist
stone nest
Just ask glyph
ember temple
big debuff
clear pulsar
Read the pin @final lava
final lava
the pin to the wowhead link is invalid
clear pulsar
The wowhead guide is down atm but it should be back up soon maybe it's being updated
READ THE WHOLE PIN BRO
snow folio
It's pretty low impact, but you can climb to any rating goal you have as Necrolo...
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I enjoy the play style more but just seems to be nonexistent for PvP and on Warcraft logs the dps different for raid bosses is massive compared to NF.
clear pulsar
It's en entire breakdown on shit like covenants/talents/conduits/legendaries
stone nest
For boomie
tulip falcon
We should have a bot in here that automatically detects when someone asks for conduits/legendaries/covenant and it responds to them with "read the pins"
stone nest
We just need a reaction that says check the pins
clear pulsar
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I enjoy the play style more but just seems to be no...
Dots just don't kill players in general, but then also if they do, it's not full cranking one target right? It's like, multipressure. I wish they made it scale with more targets but for now it's pretty low impact. It does affect Fury of Elune tho which is ok.
clear pulsar
is there a rated bg pvp guide somewhere?
A general guide to RBGs or a boomie RBG specific guide? First one, yes, second one, no. No one makes specific breakdowns for RBG choices cuz whatever works in arena works in RBGs. There are specific things that have more value, maybe a talent here or there, etc, and generally the wowhead guides outline those. I think Glyph's breakdown also talks about a few of them. If not, just tag him and ask.
snow folio
Dots just don't kill players in general, but then also if they do, it's not full...
I can dig it. Thanks for the response man 🙂 have a nice night.
final lava
aight thank you very much i was just gambling between renewal and wild charge for bg's and running starlord vs incarn
stone nest
Wild charge is goat
stone nest
Resto pumps in bgs.... it’s like the only thing we have atm
tulip falcon
not really used in rated bgs though
carmine obsidian
Hey all question for convoke on opener, what do i have to do to make sure convoke actually wants to cast damage spells? I think ive been noticing if i root beam the target convoke wont want to hit them?
stone nest
Krassz what do you mean? Resto is the best aoe atm I believe
surreal loom
Something like this should work in arenas right? For a simple macro that won't interrupt rotation to get on a seed drop.
#showtooltip
/tar [harm, exists] Regenerating Wildseed
/cast Brutal Slash
deft apex
Best conduits for balance?
tulip falcon
majority of teams are running something like double disc hpala that i see
sometimes rsham
monk and rdruid basically benched
tulip falcon
ye
stone nest
I’ve never not been top heals but that’s anecdotal
deft apex
Best conduits for Boomkin?
clear pulsar
Yeah ofc
ember temple
do i want to pop the Chosen of Elune before CA ?
clear pulsar
One issue tho is you don't have a strong external, let alone a group external
Incarnation Chosen of Elune replaces CA
stone nest
External?
clear pulsar
Yeah an external defensive
Ironbark is 20%
Worse than Sac and PS
Worse even than the aoe DRs
Aura Mastery / Dome
Rsham's Earthen Wall too
Generally really strong
stone nest
Well it increases hots so I generally use it with over growth