its fun
#pvp
devout frost
clear pulsar
Convoke is boring too
clear pulsar
Idk u just press it and hope it does something?
forest kite
convoc is broken in 2S / RBG
devout frost
convoke is way more boring imo
forest kite
where kyrian is better in 3S that all
clear pulsar
How is that more interesting?
primal bane
because it does?
devout frost
its good if u like light up colours i guess
primal bane
lol
forest kite
both are same shit ?
primal bane
kyrian is just flat dps stats with a burst on top
primal bane
kyrian is like a permanent stat trinket
forest kite
what the difference ? xD
clear pulsar
Necrolord is the coolest just cuz of the different setup it lets you run but it's complete ass in pve
forest kite
nah
trying to place convoc require more planning than kyrian
kyrian is just root/Beam > burst
every minutes , nothing else to setup
devout frost
i mean in general not arena
clear pulsar
Idk I never bought this 'convoke is more fun to press'
devout frost
i dont sit in arena all day
primal bane
it is tho
primal bane
convoke is yogg'saron
forest kite
you laught a lot
primal bane
kyrian is 4 mana 7/7
forest kite
xD
clear pulsar
Convoke just enforces something you should always be doing anyway, covering offtargets with cross CC
primal bane
theyre both good but one is extremly boring
devout frost
convoke is yogg'saron
wtf is that analogy
clear pulsar
Just cuz you're playing kyrian you dont suddenly stop cloning off target during your go
forest kite
when you know you are free to convoc , nobody can stop it , to be honest it nuts
fervent gull
convoke not targetting ccs but targeting a clone is superior bs
forest kite
just don't convoc when u clone ?
devout frost
convoke not targetting ccs but targeting a clone is superior bs
it targets ccs
forest kite
xD
devout frost
doesnt target ccs if dmg would break the cc
forest kite
it don't target CC exept stun / clone
charred barn
is the root/beam macro essential? or can you get by with trying mass entaglement/entangling roots, then drop the beam?
clear pulsar
Convoke is rly upsetting with the random targeting yeah
forest kite
also , you can force convoc on single target
primal bane
i mean convoke would be straight up insane if u could ST it
forest kite
just by mass root two ppl
clear pulsar
@charred barn you dont need a macro its whatever. Beam is offglobal.
fervent gull
targetting clones was the trolliest thing blizz found
primal bane
oh shit kaw
forest kite
you can single target convoc with only one guy in range
primal bane
thats actually insane to thik about
a lot of ppl dont break simpel roots exactly bc they seem unimportant
clear pulsar
Cope's the most confident in his own takes guy that's so clueless at the same time I've ever seen
forest kite
i'm one shotting priest against RMP at 2.6 mmr when they don't know i'm NF
clear pulsar
In my wow life
primal bane
thanks moon
forest kite
i go behind the priest , rogue/mage open , unstopable convoc on the priest in single target
clear pulsar
It's beautiful I wish I had your self confidenc3
tiny oar
Me too
primal bane
<3
forest kite
but anyway it's a cheese button , if ppl think about it , you don't kill anyone with convoc in 3s
clear pulsar
Idk if you mean you're rmd or you're facing rmp
forest kite
i'm balance
nah i mean
when i'm facing team with 2 dps pushing hard , and the heal left on the back
usually , Priest push mid when rogue/mage open
clear pulsar
Yeah for sure
forest kite
i trolled a lot of rmp
clear pulsar
Beam vortex too
primal bane
i wouldnt go that far but i do think convoke requires way more set up when people just know you have it
forest kite
to be honest , once ppl know you have it
you don't kill anyone exept against some comp
clear pulsar
I've killed people with boomie aff hotw Convoke in 2s
It's hilarious
I'm only duelist tho not 2.6
fervent gull
dk+boomy feels really cheesy
forest kite
like Rogue/ret/priest you only have to check Shadowstep and you've a free convoc
fervent gull
grip beam vortex
clear pulsar
It feels like it might actually be ok for outranging stops or killing thru bop
fervent gull
big burst window
forest kite
convoc is a win button against some comp , kyrian is just more reliable . it's simple , if you're a god , wanna push higher than 2K6 better to go kyrian
if not , convoc is fine and you wont do better as kyrian.
clear pulsar
Convoke is a win-more button
devout frost
and convoke + boat is even more of a winmore button
cause if u get a convoke off u already killed them anyway
forest kite
you have to play boat anyway with convoc
forest kite
but
you feel bad if u can't survive 3 min after the first convoc.
xD
i've done both nf & kyrian ( i'm at 2.5 cr in rbg , 2.3/2.4 in 3s , and 2.2 in 2s )
clear pulsar
Fuji's 2.7 as night fae horde ferap
forest kite
and yeah right now , i'm just stronger in 2s , A WAY WAY WAY more stronger in RBG , but a lot weaker in 3s to be honest.
tiny oar
Sinister glad formy worgen never 4get
clear pulsar
I wonder where formy's been
charred barn
one more noob question, i set up target arena keybinds on my mmo mouse, how long does it take to remember which target is which number? i always have to pause to think which one, or is there an addon that people use to put target number over their head?
clear pulsar
Only see him in pve channel now
There is a script for that
But you can get used to knowing from the gladius order
Kuinameplates has it as an option if you use that addon
Otherwise there should be a script that does it
Maybe an addon on curseforge
small hedge
Anyone have a macro that either does or can be modified to be either Wild Charge or Thorns?
charred barn
oh i see, thanks, i got gladius, but i have plater, i'll explore a script or just get used to it
clear pulsar
Arena nameplate numbers
forest kite
when these lazy dev will work on tuning class in pvp for god sake , i'm sitting between kyrian/NF waiting for the next patch
clear pulsar
If it doesnt work with plater drop a comment on the curseforge page
forest kite
pretty sure they will again change every thing
mostly because of this x4 boomy convoc meta in RBG
clear pulsar
I dont think they'll nerf either covenant. Think they may just nerf starsurge and full moon themselves
forest kite
nah they wont nerf boomy if they touch something , it's covenant only , and probably convoc
boomy is just an issue in RBG because of convoc
forest kite
they wont nerf boomie
small hedge
one more noob question, i set up target arena keybinds on my mmo mouse, how long...
Honestly, it'll take a week or so. Additionally, organize your Action Buttons (Bartender here,) to visually line up with them. I use 1-=, Shift 1-=, Control 1-= and then Alt on my shifts (memorized so not shown.)
forest kite
if they nerf something , it's only convoc because of RBG
in arena , boomie is midtier
clear pulsar
Lol nah thats way too much, the action bar layout thing
LMAO
Boomies not mid tier bro
forest kite
they are
clear pulsar
@stray sigil you see this?
forest kite
there isn't any comp where boomy is better than something else
small hedge
Its just a solid training method to visually get aide. Not for everyone.
forest kite
you can replace the boomy for a better option in absolutely any comp
just think , and find me a comp where boomy is the best choice 😄
devout frost
Anyone have a macro that either does or can be modified to be either Wild Charge...
just have one of them as standard cast and one as mod cast?
primal bane
boomie not very satisfying to play in 3s
devout frost
Honestly, it'll take a week or so. Additionally, organize your Action Buttons (B...
so much screen clutter
primal bane
idk at what point im supposed to start doing stuff
stray sigil
wait
primal bane
and not just move in bear
stray sigil
boomy is absolutely not bottom tier
devout frost
stray sigil
no shot lmfao
forest kite
it is
forest kite
when you have ALWAYS a better option in any single comp
it's definitely not in the " nerf it " tier
stray sigil
boomy def needs ajustemtns
forest kite
when you have 3 or 4 boomy in the top 200 it's definitely not S tier
stray sigil
ladder has fuckall to do with it
forest kite
u meet boomy 50% of the time
primal bane
nah this shit straight up not enjoyable xd
forest kite
the representation is here at low CR , not at high CR
primal bane
i cant play boomie at all in pvp i tried
forest kite
now Fuji , find me a comp where boomy is better than anything else
clear pulsar
M2kc were playing fire boomie yesterday and it was terrific
stray sigil
lol
forest kite
there is like easy 15 or more thunder in the top 200
clear pulsar
Grass always greener on the other side
primal bane
i might have more trust in boomy 3s if i saw anyone playing it i think
clear pulsar
There are a handful of boomie streamers
forest kite
boomie is strong , but absolutely not in the S tier
charred barn
doesn't seem like many boomie pvp streamers though, only supatease, and sometimes tettles when he does casual 3s with friends,
forest kite
so , boomy is top
stray sigil
absolutely lol
small hedge
so much screen clutter
Is really that bad?
stray sigil
100% needs to be looked at
clear pulsar
Boomie's going to get nerfed one way or another. Either surge directly or convoke itself.
100%
stray sigil
you realize that
oblique wharf
Balanced cause every team has a boomy ;)
forest kite
Sure if they nerf Ret/WW/War/Fire mage and don't touch to boomy
forest kite
boomy would be so fucking broken
oblique wharf
Imagine blizzard actually giving a shit about RBGs to make changes for specifically that anyway
stray sigil
rbgs is dead content
forest kite
it is , i never said boomy was low tier
stray sigil
they will never balance around that shit
forest kite
it's strong , but for now , not overtuned like some class are
forest kite
if they nerf boomie , and don't nerf War / WW / Ret / rogue again / firemage / SP
oblique wharf
Star surge is a little overtuned, but could argue that the dots are undertuned
stray sigil
very insane gameplay randomly getting lobbed for 100% of ur hp
forest kite
it's an insult .
forest kite
Convenant are overtuned for everyone
clear pulsar
No chance sub gets nerfed again
oblique wharf
Wat
forest kite
delete convenant , Boomie don't one shot anymore , nobody one shot anymore
stray sigil
they can literally do pvp nerfs
nothing to do with pve
?????????????????????
holy shit
what am i reading bro
???
oblique wharf
You realize most high rated boomies dont use convoke right? @forest kite
forest kite
i'm talking about convoc in RBG
forest kite
i know convoc is crap in 3s
clear pulsar
5 surge in a row nasty
oblique wharf
Even kyrian is good in RBGs
tiny oar
I'm losing my mind reading this shit
forest kite
nah , convoc is just totaly broken in RBG , u can full cast it for free if u've some brain
i Q at 2.6 cr / 3K mmr , it's x4 boomy + 2 rogues every single game
oblique wharf
I could also just guarantee 5 starsurges amped by 15%
forest kite
yeah it's insane
forest kite
dude , i'm playing boomy myself i'm not a trash , i've 2.4 cr in arena and 2.6 in rbg , i know it's strong
stray sigil
a spec that can sit bear all game while getting trained
and can still do most dmg in a game
forest kite
i know surge burst with foe/badge/kyrian & timeworn can literally delete something every minutes
stray sigil
is def a class
forest kite
BUT
stray sigil
that is problematic
forest kite
actually lot of shit are even more broken
oblique wharf
I dont even know the arguement anymore
stray sigil
hes saynig boomy isnt top tier
devout frost
Is really that bad?
i wouldnt be able to play with that much stuff on screen
compact crest
hpal/ww/boomkin vs RMP. what do we target
oblique wharf
Could swap priest too
stray sigil
honestly just pve with ur comp
forest kite
when boomy isn't the top choice for any comp in the meta right now , it can't be considered S tier that it , even if it's strong
small hedge
i wouldnt be able to play with that much stuff on screen
It looks worse than it is. Im on a 27" and cropping it. I guess for Resto (My PvP spec,) I could go without the spells weak aura in the center.
oblique wharf
A good win condition against RMP as that comp is just oom the Disc and survive
forest kite
now tune some class , let boomy untouched and yeah it would probably be god tier .
devout frost
i have entire ui hidden except what i need
primal bane
maybe tune all the melees
primal bane
ye by all i meant the ones used
clear pulsar
Enhance needs bug fix thats all
stray sigil
na u dont just
devout frost
they just nerfed DH
forest kite
Firemage need a look also
stray sigil
buff dh
devout frost
dont buff it again
stray sigil
randomly
oblique wharf
Nah fck DH
forest kite
if they nerf all of this , then boomy need a look too
oblique wharf
Easy class should be garbage
clear pulsar
Fuck dh
clear pulsar
Buff feral
devout frost
they nerfed hunt once no
primal bane
i want to see bm and survival
stray sigil
rogue is fine
tiny oar
Nerf hunt buff their other dmg tbh
stray sigil
surv is fine
clear pulsar
BUFF FERAL
stray sigil
but
devout frost
survival and mm is fine
forest kite
hunter / feral etc are fine rogue too
forest kite
it's WW/RET/war too good
stray sigil
cuz its pretty aids
clear pulsar
@stray sigil why does willy play surv tho idgi
oblique wharf
Put enhance on that list
clear pulsar
Just go mm
devout frost
the only specs that really need buffs imo are hpriest/mw, fury/demo/assass
clear pulsar
Every jungle's playing mm
stray sigil
hes been a surv only player since legion
forest kite
also what about SP borderline broken if they nerf melee ?
clear pulsar
Stop being snowflakes
devout frost
then we have perfect meta
clear pulsar
Fuck assa
forest kite
what about endless shield one shot firemage shit
stray sigil
i mean i cant really tell him to do shit im playing nf lol
so w.e i go with the flow
devout frost
demo in arena is so fun @clear pulsar
oblique wharf
Why buff any of those dps when they all have perfectly good other specs
clear pulsar
Buff mw and fury maybe. Fuck assa and demo, pure dps classes dont need all specs viable idk
devout frost
wish it wasnt so shit
clear pulsar
I genuinely dont think assa needs a buff
forest kite
Demo don't need anything , if these overtuned melee get their fucking nerf , demo is fine
stray sigil
also
clear pulsar
It's for sure better than fury rn
stray sigil
they need to nerf this stupid ass
clear pulsar
And mw
clear pulsar
The perma slow?
stray sigil
yes
compact crest
bait arcane silence, incarn convoke win shits the most fun in the world
clear pulsar
It's so over the top
oblique wharf
Super happy to be a druid when that exists
stray sigil
lock has so much mobility nowadays
primal bane
only thing i really dig about boomie is how everyone focuses you but you really cant die
stray sigil
def dont need that shit lol
primal bane
ironfur, heals, thorns, barkskin
devout frost
affli is good
forest kite
for god sake , i wanna this tune now
oblique wharf
When everyone focuses you and you still double everyones damage? Yeh i like that too
stray sigil
^
oblique wharf
Dont expect tuning for another few weeks tbh
stray sigil
meanwhile feral does like 50k dmg if they go u all game
oblique wharf
When is tourny again?
stray sigil
sick
oblique wharf
Cause the tuning will be the day b4
true marten
just sucks the spec having so much power in convoke
forest kite
mid january no ?
devout frost
at least let the come back from holidays holy
true marten
feels shit playing out of convoke
devout frost
just sucks the spec having so much power in convoke
it doesnt
forest kite
yeah i know they wont tune before that
devout frost
if u play NF u choose to fuck urself outside of convoke
devout frost
just change covenant and u can have power often
stray sigil
and remove the ability to cast moon
if ur not speccd into it
bam
fixd
same for feral
no ff if not speccd
oblique wharf
How much would you nerf surge by
devout frost
just cap the amount of surges convoke can cast
true marten
rather spec feral tbh
true marten
balance feels like shit with current haste
forest kite
i'm fine with 10/15% nerf on surge
clear pulsar
No just make the 6 general spells always cast first so you dont get triple surged in the first half second @devout frost
forest kite
xD
true marten
having to hardcast twice to get into eclipse is not fucking happening in arena
devout frost
No just make the 6 general spells always cast first so you dont get triple surge...
true
make it less random
but then pvers will cry
clear pulsar
Yeah
devout frost
with their r4 boats
clear pulsar
If it always did general spells first it'd feel a lot more fair
devout frost
would still prob be best u would just SS before convoke
true marten
pve is the point of the system
forest kite
pve
oblique wharf
Or just make it so you can only SS every lik 5 spells or something
So you may get one at the start but not 3
forest kite
so , what is the point of pve think like set with bonus etc if they can't be used in pvp ?
true marten
pve is the point of pve
clear pulsar
Yall wilding
oblique wharf
Covenant is literally the whole expac, they wont take it away
forest kite
i know i know , covenant will never be deleted in pvp
but right now , it's the only issue
xD
oblique wharf
Not really
forest kite
mostly
oblique wharf
Warriors and rets would still be ridic
true marten
but i think overall pvp is ok
there are just outliers
that aren't super fun to face
oblique wharf
The only class defining covenant is venthyr for priests
forest kite
nah pvp is garbage right now , but it can be fixed
true marten
hard disagree
oblique wharf
I'll take this over BfA
clear pulsar
Yeah it's simple ok?
Nerf RSK, nerf WOG, nerf Intervene, nerf Starsurge, nerf Triune Ward
Game's perfect
oblique wharf
Nerf that fire mage conduit too
true marten
fire mage gonna be perma present in next arena tourney
clear pulsar
Thats cap
Just let it be tbh
They should take hands off the wheel and let the game be
true marten
just give pvp trinkets the defensive bonus too
forest kite
right now why Surge are broken in boomy ? mostly because these mastery buff from NF or kyrian
clear pulsar
It's better than wild swings that dump the game on its head every 4 months
forest kite
it's pretty the same about all class
there is always something scalling so fucking hard
devout frost
Surge is good because the spec is good
primal bane
when your healer did not burn every fucking 20 minute cooldown abilities at the start of the game
oblique wharf
Surge just hits hard period
forest kite
yeah but remove all mastery buff from convenant
surge is fine , surge get his 10/15% nerf
clear pulsar
They'll just keep adding stamina buffs every patch to the increasingly convoluted system to make up for damage scaling harder @vestal citrus
primal bane
ret is so fun when u hear 2 steel objects cling and ur entire life sits on whether that crits or not
true marten
or they could give pvp trinket bonus the defensive buff 🤷
forest kite
or they could give pvp trinket bonus the defensive buff 🤷
this also
why the fuck it's not 40% for both for god sake
true marten
i think pvp in itself with gearing and the systems is pretty rewarding, wouldn't change it for a thing
but like the rng rolling extra spells on some shit is -dumb-
extra evis on rogues
extra judgment
forest kite
" hey , pvp will be fine once we got a lot of versa " , " sorry dude , more versa = more burst now " get rekt
true marten
convoke as a whole
oblique wharf
They need to shift some burst damage of a few classes into other places. Castable spells, counterable damage, consistent damage
forest kite
look at fire mage , totaly garbage substained damage
running around doing shit
pop combu , bye
oblique wharf
Then boom 40k dmg in 3 globals
devout frost
Speaking of necro my necro druid for a 32 ilvl upgrade on weapon earlier today
puggers
oblique wharf
I was talking about fire mage
harsh jasper
best lego for bear FC?
true marten
but honestly though 10% damage redux from vers scaling on trinket bonus would go a long way
devout frost
this negative energy purging actually feels pretty good @clear pulsar
forest kite
shift damage from surge to wrath / starfire and it's fine
clear pulsar
Sleeper probably @harsh jasper
devout frost
might actually reform
clear pulsar
LOL
clear pulsar
blizzard should let us instantly forfeit matches
Pls sdfu
true marten
if damage is concentrated in hardcasts
harsh jasper
Sleeper probably <@!273600989330669580>
ok thanks
true marten
you literally can't fucking play boomy in arena
devout frost
hit the button
forest kite
not concentrated , but right now you are just runing around spreading shit , casting is not worth at all
oblique wharf
Put some damage from surge into dots
devout frost
clear pulsar
NOW is OP tbh
forest kite
you can shift 10% damage from surge , to wrath & starfire , on the papper same damage , less burst
oblique wharf
Imagine a starfall meta
forest kite
do that with every single class ( exept warrior & ww ) and it's fine
primal bane
boomie gameplay> get everything kicked>bear form since ur low hp>finally full hp>kick cooldowns are back
cycle of pvp
true marten
Imagine a starfall meta
is this rbg chat now
true marten
the fucking spells you need to enter eclipse?
primal bane
i get my wraths kicked brop
oblique wharf
I love getting kicked
primal bane
literally everything i do gets kicked
oblique wharf
Cast starfire then
true marten
boomy outside eclipse is a fucking noodle thrower
forest kite
you can always cast as boomy mate
if they double kick you in a second , everyone is fine
true marten
yeah sure thing, there's no double melee comps right now at all
tiny oar
Did sum1 say elder druid 
forest kite
when double melee train you , you don't even have to cast, spaming instant starfire xD
clear pulsar
You basically have 170k effective HP against physical damage when you pop barkskin with NOW in bear form, compared to 96k without NOW.
Well I do I should say
primal bane
so whats left to do
do i just blame my team for every burst and kick being used on me
and us still having no pressure
and everyone being 100
primal bane
oh ok
clear pulsar
You dont have to hardcast as boomie
oblique wharf
You should still be top dmg tbh
clear pulsar
Being kicked is fine
forest kite
if you are dying with two melee sitting on you
true marten
not in 2s
forest kite
kicking you
clear pulsar
You only have to cast cyclone
primal bane
i dont mind being kicked to shit
but i like to see my team
taking advantage of that
clear pulsar
Keep up dots, use starfire instant casts, bait kicks here and there, otherwise all you do is instant, root beam FOE surge surge surge surge surge
You should honestly still be top damage
With 2 melee on you
forest kite
depend of the comp
clear pulsar
Unless you're playing with a spriest or aff lock
But then the 2 melee wont be on you anyway
harsh jasper
what spot is BIS for Sleeper (boots/belt)
true marten
being top damage with meter padding dots doesnt really matter
harsh jasper
only using it to FC
forest kite
i don't even know what is the best comp for boomy right now to be honest , probably Pal/WW/boomy
oblique wharf
You're usually top dmg with thorns and your instant starfires and surges
clear pulsar
Both have the same stat budget, just take whatever is a bigger upgrade or a smaller downgrade for you @harsh jasper
oblique wharf
When being trained
clear pulsar
Ele boomie probably
But any comp really
Swear to god
Ww, ret, arms, ele, fire, sub, arms
true marten
there just isn't any reason to bring a boomkin when you can have a mage
primal bane
i do not conceive
forest kite
xD
oblique wharf
Owlplay os probably a comp where you wouldnt replace the boomy, given how squishy warlocks are
primal bane
how u die 20s into the game as a HOLY PALADIN
and blame peopel for not ccing?
even if ur right
its literally impossible
clear pulsar
Well did you cc?
clear pulsar
It's a 3v3 game idk bro
forest kite
to be honest , the game feel a lot better for melee cleave or Melee + caster
spell cleave can work but ...
true marten
yeah im having way more fun on my melees
oblique wharf
Nah owlplay farms
true marten
just doesn't feel that good to play caster atm
forest kite
i don't know i've play owlplay , ele/boomy , LSD2 ( holy shit poor warlock ) , war/boomy , ww/boomy , ret/boomy
clear pulsar
Sometimes crane holds weapon in soulshape, it's kinda funny
forest kite
war boomy/ww boomy was the best
primal bane
that good is understatement of the year
ur just not really casting
u have small windows of casting
and huge windows of trying not to die
unless ur aff warlock
clear pulsar
No caster in the game will be able to free hardcast all game bro
If that's your idea of playing a caster
primal bane
aff warlock
clear pulsar
You playing the wrong game idk
true marten
that's not really what i'm saying though
clear pulsar
Aff is a bunch of instant casts
true marten
the games are just too fast for the openings to be regular
clear pulsar
I'm talking to cope
primal bane
spriest but idk how much of a caster he is
true marten
he responded to me
primal bane
but spriest gives no fucks
forest kite
yeah but boomy is strong on oppening
primal bane
starts games on 7k dps ends games on 8k
clear pulsar
starts games on 7k dps ends games on 8k
You're wild bro I can't
primal bane
not even 1k players are this dumb tho
you rootbeam, healer trinkets
now ur no longer stealthed
and you play a class everyone focuses
forest kite
and ?
primal bane
so hf bear form player
clear pulsar
And healer has no trinket for next root beam
forest kite
most of the time
devout frost
clear pulsar
Perfect
forest kite
i don't even start stealthed
clear pulsar
Just start in bear form so you don't get randomly found in cat tbh
Go out boomie form, put up dots before they get to you
forest kite
i just push in mount doting , like every single boomy at high CR against most of the comp xD
clear pulsar
Only point starting in stealth is if enemy's bonobos and leave healer behind
Then you beam vortex convoke
clear pulsar
You can only convoke if you're night fae yes
Good info tho
Thanks for clarifying
forest kite
xD
tiny oar
X fucking d
forest kite
yeah but i was talking about kyrian right now , to use all CD on opening , it's back 1m later
clear pulsar
I wanna play venthyr arms
tiny oar
I just tanked dungos and did xp world quests mate
clear pulsar
My warr wasnt max lvl in BFA
Fuck alts in bfa lmao
But my DH had gear from last patch
Could level DH too I guess
devout frost
full group with well geared can dung spam
forest kite
one question if ppl already did it . i was kyrian , switched to NF , if i switch back to kyrian , i keep NF until i finish the two weekly ?
clear pulsar
Yes
forest kite
thought it was like that but in game , it's saying i will lose the covenant
devout frost
i already answered u that @forest kite
clear pulsar
You keep NF until you finish the 2nd quest
devout frost
are u going senile
devout frost
do u not trust my advice
clear pulsar
Should we answer that?
forest kite
i don't know you , you could troll me hard.
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
You can sit on the 2nd quest forever if you want
devout frost
the only one being a troll in here is u mate
forest kite
true , i'm troll in game
clear pulsar
But you can only do the first quest for one covenant at a time @forest kite
clear pulsar
And like
You have a 1 week lockout too
Where you cant swap back
As in you can only do one quest per week
If you do the first quest to go back kyrian, you can't do a quest to go any other covenant, and then next week if you do the 2nd quest, you can't do the 1st quest to go back night fae until the week after
But you do keep your old covenant spells until you finish swapping
Trust I literally cycled thru every covenant on my main
forest kite
yeah so you can hold the second quest , and stay NF forever till you decide to change right ?
clear pulsar
@devout frost get fukt
primal bane
but you lose soulbind upgrades
forest kite
still waiting for the next patch , because pretty sure if they nerf these overtuned class , we will get some change too
and when you look what happen to kyrian rogue , i don't wanna swap now .
😄
clear pulsar
Idk kyrian's fine
forest kite
i want to go back kyrian for 3s y
clear pulsar
It's not nasty opener but the 7cp evis is the point of it really, if you want to play around it
forest kite
convoc is trash
clear pulsar
I'm saying for rogue
forest kite
oh , yeah it's balanced now
clear pulsar
Phial alone makes Kyrian practically bis
primal bane
day 5 of wondering why arena has no queue system
10 seconds to find match bout 35 to find players
clear pulsar
Cuz you don't want to queue as boomie and get a mw while enemy team is rogue mage
primal bane
yes you want to play 3s, it matches you with similar cr players
clear pulsar
Yeah like solo queue
forest kite
you know it's garbage right ?
clear pulsar
I think it has its advantages and disadvantages
primal bane
why wwould it be bad
clear pulsar
But it's in line with the rest of the game
You can only solo queue for garbage difficulties in pve
clear pulsar
End-game progression is all premade groups
Which is fine, the game's an mmo and wants to maintain some semblance of a social aspect
Idk
DOesn't matter just make some friends
forest kite
but dude , solo Q in arena ... no skill at all in that , mostly rng
primal bane
bargaining with absolute morons about what your exp and cr and class needs to be for them to even feel like you should be playing pvp
VS
clear pulsar
Yeah the different random comps would be maddening
tiny oar
Yea add the whole druid discord to ur bnet play triple druid
forest kite
mostly at same CR / XP , the one with the best comp win
primal bane
just pressing a queue button
clear pulsar
I think in 2s if it always only matched dps + healer it could be ok
And no one cares much about 2s anyway
But for 3s no chance
primal bane
ofc it would match with healers wtf
primal bane
we literally have role queue for years
forest kite
for easy pve content
where u can smash it no matter the comp
you don't have solo Q for Mythic + too , it would be even more interesting than solo Q in arena xD
forest kite
it's a mmo , not counterstrike , you're supposed to meet and play with ppl u like
clear pulsar
You literally can only solo queue for pointless difficulties
primal bane
are essentially just fucking moving
clear pulsar
Heroic dungeons, LFR raids
clear pulsar
Well the entire game seems to be an enigma to you
Considering you keep complaining about everyone and everything at 15hundo
primal bane
got me very good there
primal bane
facts
forest kite
the system is fine , ppl mentality is the problem mostly
clear pulsar
The system is fine, just make friends
primal bane
yes majority of players shouldnt be incharge of making teams
clear pulsar
I mean every single game is better if you're playing a premade with friends
forest kite
you wanna a solo Q to meet a wife also ? xD
clear pulsar
Every online game ever
primal bane
u have the mentally insane "lets try again" when ur dps is sub 1k instead of kicking
forest kite
you can , but you have to pay
clear pulsar
At this point I literally only open dota and CS when my friends are online and invite me
primal bane
everything is better with friends
its why i dont get the "its fun with riends " shit
u could look at dry paint contests with friends for fun
clear pulsar
If you don't find arena fun why do you play?
forest kite
it's fun also when u meet good ppl
and sometime it's garbage because you play with ppl u don't like
it's the life
primal bane
i swear i love pvp
but i feel like the game is not in my favor for wnting to play it
clear pulsar
Ok
devout frost
bro triple druid @tiny oar
forest kite
i don't know , i don't have any prob to meet a lot of ppl to do pvp with chill & good player
devout frost
do they stack
forest kite
this last week , i've pushed 0 to 2600 in rbg with like 400 different ppl , lot of them was idiot , but now i've like 30 new friend to play with in arena
tiny oar
Ya
clear pulsar
Nah nah cat affinity for the non ferals
devout frost
poogers
clear pulsar
Triple maim into convoke
primal bane
how u even find 9 randoms willing to cooparte in rated rbg
wait actually
horde or ally? @forest kite
forest kite
I'm horde
I'm using the research system?
There is lireally a lot of group for any cr from 0 to 2.7
And if u're good, you don't even need to search, ppl ask you to come in discord, they invite you in private discord etc...
primal bane
horde has x3 the m+/raid/pvp playerbase
inland bear
I'm 1800 in 2s as Feral/Disc and Fire/Subt is easily the combo I lose to the most
any tips?
I rakestun the greater pyro and i still lose. Wait for rogue to open and rakestun him, still lose
clear pulsar
Well locks have more hp
He's 215 tho which is pretty high still
Also he's 3/10
Idk he's playing fdk which doesnt seem that great but
Still trill's rsks do like 15k
stray sigil
fdk better than uh dk
clear pulsar
Zev oneshot trill on opener now
Lol
@stray sigil you think so? Cuz of breath stun lego?
inland bear
is Zev Kyrian feral?
stray sigil
yes u get same gos as in bfa
but not nearly as difficult to pull off
"difficult" but u know hwta i mean
onyx egret
why are druid insta killed its driving me nuts
novel sky
because its our time
clear pulsar
Idk im not instakilled
primal bane
is boomie just
NEEDED to perma stun the healer
bc i feel like im the only one doing this
onyx egret
in 3v3 they see me pop an all turn on me maybe cuase i jus suck lol
primal bane
also do healers have extra pvp trinket actives
clear pulsar
Blame ur healer and move on like cope @onyx egret
onyx egret
we dont have one that might be the issue LOL
primal bane
how bad would it be if i played feral pvp with a 158 wep
tiny sigil
Just go double boomie, win the first five seconds or lose and requeue like a champ
onyx egret
🙂
tiny sigil
Its the most fun I've had in a while atleast, probably not good for anything abobe my shitty 1.6k, but its an alt with 160 ilvl so is ok
primal bane
nice bait NA player
tiny sigil
Just do some bgs and get 184?
clear pulsar
Yeah if you're alliance you get extra honor from bgs too
clear pulsar
Yeah do a daily win of regular and epic bg
tiny sigil
So? If you like pvp that isnt an issue
primal bane
epic bgs are not exactly defined as pvp or pve in my book but im just saying that 184 is lord of diminishing returns
tiny sigil
You could also find a group for m0 and hope for a weapon, or just farm for one 100% with vers
primal bane
how do i do option 2?
tiny sigil
More like 100-200k for a 190
tiny sigil
Gearing through pvp have never been better imo
primal bane
and maybe some honor cost reductions
so far its ok
but some of the gear is a bit insanely demanding
ehhhh
its pretty good
quickwould be gettong conq from losing
so u can actually 200 ilvl in a couple of days
last bison
What would the best way for me to translate Bear Form/Frenzied Regen for PvP? Is there a useful macro?
mossy cloud
Is BoAT or Circle better for Boomkin PVP
tiny oar
Keybind bear form and frenzy to sumthing easy n press them in that order lol
primal bane
feral pvp potency conduit?
long pumice
If nightfae - convoke + either taste for blood or + damage in tiger frenzy with dream weaver soulbind
limber plover
is there any resto druid pvp guide?
I wanna join RBG but don't know how to prepare
long pumice
In general - he is very wellrounded. Pod is very annoying to deal with. 2 second slow after a stun is broken.
Has 1 def 2 potency conduits.
primal bane
ok so Tough as bark or innate resolve for defense slot
long pumice
For def conduit as of now instincts are a must(frenzied regen at 40%)
primal bane
actually do i even go def or potency first
clear pulsar
I'd take 2 endurance tbh
Idk it's just feelycrafting but I feel like Conflux is overkill
It's only buffing your convoke damage, which should kill people anyway
I'd go both Frenzied Regen endurance condies
And then Taste For Blood
lilac venture
hmm
you need the dreamgrove soulbind for 2 endurance now right
i might try that. i do ike the 15% dmg on convoke tho
primal bane
u can use 2 of the same conduits at once??
clear pulsar
Cuz there are 2 Frenzied Regen conduits?
Yea
Idk double potency's fine too
I guess I just don't think conflux is a difference maker
Since Convoke either kills or does nothing anyway
long pumice
I do prefer conflux. Bark skin cond just does not reduce cd for enough to be relevant - all existing bursts have 2 charges(rogues, monks, firemages - not exactly 2 charges but short cd)
primal bane
so deadass dreamweaver is feral best pvp?
i still cant believe im using that pod shit
clear pulsar
So that's the thing
If you're going double potency
You might as well play Niya
Grove Invigoration is basically a better version of Conflux
And you can take Well Honed now at renown 18
If you're Night Fae you're already playing a gimmicky covenant that may win you games you should have lost anyway
Might as well take pod
long pumice
Pod and 90% slow after a stun or incap is a must rn. That’s why Niya is a no go
clear pulsar
Incessant hunter is completely worthless
primal bane
since im using a lot of off-brand conduits
clear pulsar
Incessant hunter is ass dude
primal bane
how bad would it be if i went kyrian
clear pulsar
Take Sudden Ambush over it if you must
primal bane
yeah i swapped it wd
clear pulsar
Kyrian > Convoke
clear pulsar
It wouldn't be bad
Literally every conversation in here about covenants everyone always agrees that Kyrian's better
long pumice
Kyrian is more reliable