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well that is what it used to be
its crazy just how much work i feel liek im putting
Do you have videos, replays, vods?
sit bear and soak damage
just to sit around
in old days
finna stream to show you guys how much i suck
Well honed makes you inmortal
i have no defensive unlocks yet
Balance is livelord spec yeah
Mastery or haste stacking cope?
I dont even run renewal im so tanky
what renown are you?
15
18
me running niya
Get double endurance on niya at 18
both have def conduit
since i get one more conduit
Itโs interesting that most guides say to stack haste but we all seem to be mastery chads
Bruh arent you like 170 ilvl too? Lol
Haste is for Kyrian builds Iโm guessing?
Haste is for CC
anyone made oneth?
but its the speed and convoke conduit
21% more somethign while convoked
and i keep speed from travel/cat form
Damage healing
@echo crescent boat is ok but more of a pve legendary. Issue with it is that many times you wont have time to go into eclipse before popping surges out.
Oneth isnt good
wait wht
Dream is the god tier pvp LEGO
so whats the pvp leg?
Dreambinder is the way
i guess dream is good eh
Dreambinder
Dreambinder lets u get 4 or 5 surges in a row when you use fury of elune and pool full bar
not dropping for me on that dung
easy to get?
Do a mythic of it
Dreambinder crits are nasty too
It drops from a dg. I swear all the dg legendaries dropped first time for me.
mythics
Usually get one ever go
Higher the difficulty better the drop chance
Maybe god doesnโt like you
no drop
Fcking took me 7 M+ runs for dreambinder
Thats unlucky
yeah been unlucky
Very unlucky
lmao
i can make lvl 4 dream
got soul ash for it
Better than me spamming plaguefall 50+ times on my hunter b4 the legendary drop buff
Good morning ruski @lime light
all these legendary items be costing a fortune
@oblique wharf haha
yeah and lot of time
Seriously, my rank 3 is 200k on my server
btw do i make 235 one>?
I just make a bunch of offspec legos at 190
or make lower level?
oh and btw
300k for minex d
is 191 considered low ilvl for pvp
Yea
Yeah at this point
I have 50k gold zzzz
:(
make lower level or
Catch me skinning for life
All the epic pve gamers are all 210+
But you can catch up fully on conquest
191 aint bad
191 is like noticeably behind
You can get 1800 with that
Well yeah but not if you sit in discord complaining about guides you didnt actually read
But if I see a player with like 28k hp the game's always noticeably easier tbh
Yeh should rephrase. A decent player can get 1800 with that
I got 1800 with 194 just this week
Just take the time you're behind in gear to practice and farm conquest
Tauren honestly OP, giving like 1400 hp
You'll win, you'll lose, such is life in pvp
1800 aint that good lol
1800 is better than ur sorry ass
Haha

on boomie sure
Your name is spot on btw @primal bane
didnt hear that one b4
I hit 1800 in 2s, should clarify. Havent pushed 3s yet
Boomie top 2 caster in the game
Could argue for spriest but at the very least undeniably top 3
tbh i wonder where did all those arena videos with convoek one shots even come from
i did not get a match like that
since 700 cr
Yeah fire #1
1600-1800 was a joke. I cant believe how bad the players are
So many meme double dps comps
ret, rogue, shaman etc
Rsham hpal sub ret
I play with rsham
prot too
Feral's prob less frustrating in certain matchups but
I think it's about same same in 2s
Boomie def better in 3s
ok
Boony felt surprisingly good in 2s
Even if we cant find a 3rd we can queue feral hpal brother @clear pulsar 
But yeah imo it goes
Fire boomie spriest
Ele aff mm
Destro arcane frost
i play boom pve.. and in pvp i really dont feel it ๐
also, so much esier to have a pvp spec and a pve spec..
And for melees prob like
Ww arms ret
Enhance feral surv
Unholy frost havoc
lopl i just had to watch some obomie gameplay
I think destro is gonna dominate later seasons again. They hit hard, and with more mast they will be tankier
idk why it never lcicked me i should rootbeam very early into the game
but now i just go invis>mass entangle>silence
and we win games
Corruption slow leggo is way too strong for destro to become main lock spec I feel
But idk
Yeah true
Faces a phat 40k hp destro in rbgs today. Holy shit they hit hard


2s just the only bracket I have rating on for duelist vault, maaaaybe a bit more gear on hpal first!? 
I've played like 60 3s games total this season
I mean 2.1 is fine and easy we shouldn't tank, but you legit have no gear

I'm just scared
how much rank is normal to gain per win
Ya ya when I get more geared on it ofc or we just play feral rdruid raw bite shit @clear pulsar
12-15 if your mmr isn't too out of wack
If you're on a win streak your mmr will go up faster than your rating, and then you start gaining more per win, 18, 20, etc
Same with loss streaks
i have been seeing +19 for a win 10 for a loss but kind of stuck at 1200 >->
It works out ok too, I can't rly play much right now anyway, at most I sit down at the pc for like 20 mins at a time.
is disc pries good
Well 1200 is kinda the bottom of the ladder :D
Think positively, you can go nowhere but up
I thought you didnt lose rating until 1400?
yeah. 1v2 situations happen too often. why do my party members always die~
You can lose rating all the way down to at minimum 1k I'm pretty sure
So long as you lose enough games
still roughly @ 50% win/loss so not worse than a coin toss at least
Keep working and you will get there
Remember to peel your team8s
Not just their fault when they die
If you're trying to climb out of that you should probably play with a healer, assuming you're dps.
Double dps is generally harder, more hectic and confusing at first, some comps have high skill ceiling but also high skill floor.
no, not dps. a horrible tank. should probably aim for Rated BG or dust off balance. as that seems to have a broken burst. 
Of course they play tank...
Disgusting


Jexen was spamming mists before he was even eligible to drop legendaries
You're all good bro
Keep the bear dream alive buddy 

||we are all stuck in at the bottom of the latter||

Everywhere I look I see hpals so idk what ur on about lol
this cretin actually left bc i didnt socket my ilvl 184 bracelet
Haha
arena players are like tanks in m+
Divas?
yes wtf
I mean you complain more than anyone I know. Are you a tank in m+?
no just someone who doesnt really get his class
i want to have like
some element of knowledge check
is mage+boomie a good choice 3s?
Y aren't ur bracers gemmed yo
double boomie is best :]
That's like 16 vers
double convoke?
Or did they complain that u havent no lifed the maw for 1 sock so far
Yeah mage boomie very good
You just have to know how to use your cc to peel for one another
I played some double convoke with a friend of mine, got 1,5k insta and all we did was literally incarn > convoke
Guardian ret is sick
wish i could cyclone myself
If no ones tried it
get me out of this mess
Disgusto
only war have it
oh yeah forgother locks
Not gonna lie, a reflected clone has definitely won me games by accident
Same brother 
foehqilfuqbfeilqwubefqwueg
im so done
i just
lose one game
and im back to forming another team
enter game> nuked for 20k in 2 seconds>20 minutes cooldown
Bro druid has some absurd amount of control
absurd? id go with average\
Well you have 4 different categories of cc
Disorient, incap, stun, root. Silence if you count that separately but might as well count it along with root.
You also have a knockback
@primal bane what rating are you playing at?
man why is it so hard to just play the game :d
1500
at this point ill take anyone who wont die in 10k dmg
just let me enter the arena
and play teh game im paying a sub for
lmao ๐
think im just not made for this casting gameplay, ill probs do much better once i geta feral wep
and ye ik ik boomie not casting much
but it just dont feel right defending this much
not going to mass>Solar>incarn>Convoke>SS
i do that
instant stun
after solar
dead too bc my healer is S H O C K E D they would want to burst a boomie
completely caught off guard
im counting on the future feral buffs and boomie nerf to carry me to 3k

What am I reading
Feral's in the best spot it's been in pve for the last 3 years, and is a definitely good spec in pvp. It's not getting buffed.
The average mythic parse being low is rly brought down by 1 fight
Sun kings
Every other fight feral's on the top end of dps
its only bottom of S tier. needs more rogue 1 shot buffs
Feral's not getting buffed anytime soon
Dreambinder or BOAT for convoke boomies?
I would hope for a necrolord buff for aoe but I doubt they'll change the spell itself
sad kitties
wait what
whats this then
๐
im not doing it out of my own will
Tanks are never on any of these lists. 

like
ive saidbefore
if i got a question the reply is
check pins google it yadda yadda
these da results
@fickle junco thats a dps tier list for pve
Any good / must have Arena WAs or addons?
And a pretty trash one at that
Talk to me MIE
Sarena/gladius/gladiusex, these are arena frames to track diminishing returns on cc
Omnibar for enemy cd tracking
Bigdebuffs is nice
VERSA MASTERY
u want all tanky things on feral
feral so squishy
everyting kills through ur wals and barks
xD
Basically those are the ones everyone uses in arena @void nimbus
Gladiatorlossa is like a sound callout of enemy spells/cds. Some people like it, you can customize to track more or less things.
Literally every spec in the game stacks vers #1 in pvp
Bro I swear it looks so pathetic and sad when people try to bitch about the spec they play and are way off the mark
so ill do great deeps
it acts exactly like pvp power and resil so, kind of makes sense
What would be the best conduit for Night Fae? balance 3's
Well honed instincts
potency i mean
Conflux is good, fury of the skies/CA duration otherwise
i see
Endurance conduits are pretty good tho
It's not too big of a deal. If you get Convoke off it'll do its job with or without Conflux
One of my buddies insists that convoke will moonfire/sunfire less if they are already up on targets in range. Does anyone know whether that's the case? I can't think of a way to test it
It doesnt use sunfire but it uses moonfire
What do you guys think? How hard is it to get 2.1 on a boomy? And which setup would you play besides pal/Druid
But moonfire doesnt take away from ur other damage spells
How do you mean?
The spells convoke uses follow this logic
6 general spells and 10 form specific spells
The general spells are moonfire, rejuv, regrowth, thrash, and rake. It'll use 6 of those pmuch everytime. If you're not in melee range of an enemy it wont cast the melee spells, if moonfire's up on everyone it can hit it'll just use 6 heals.
making the dream binder
whats a good tier list to look at both pv and pve
Tier lists are pointless. You can look at performance in raid in warcraftlogs.
In 2s literally anything but boomie mw should be fine and even then boomie monk should have no problem getting 2.1 @weak hinge
Skillcapped probably has pvp tier lists
@tiny oar okay General strat is playing aggressive with ur heal? I feel like I lose the race against warrior and ww the most.
They have it on youtube instead now @vestal citrus
It's an agreeable list
Too many specs on S tier, I dont like that. But generally it sounds good.
if all specs end up on the S tier, wouldn't that mean its balanced?
Well it means the person creating the list is out of their mind
There will also be difference in perspective between the regions
Yea preferably sumthing with a stun to cover ur root beam go hpal or holy priest even prolly good but a good rdruid could work too, disc or rsham aren't bad either @weak hinge
For instance EU has more/better disc priests
So european rank 1s will see disc as better than american rank 1s do
Rsham cant stun kill target but can follow up root beam with cap
And has a slow
Which is pretty fucken nice for a healer to have
When you're a caster with no slow urself
ok and what about pvp tier lists
feral sits pretty ok
in pve
but who knows of pvp
Also if you're playing with an rsham that you voice comms with, you may try playing Bash and sync root beam with the root totem
That would be a nasty go too ya
Yeah he does put ele way up there
Especially now that ele got their bis leggo from world boss this week
Why is trill not #1 on ladder by like 50 points minimum
well got the leg
He's 12 ilvl higher than drake lol
Lol ya trills insane absolute American hero dude
Is sam even playing? @vestal citrus
His spriest is 2600
No mage that I can see
Renown 9 tho
Yeah he's casual chilling
190 ilvl
Prob hasnt queued since week 1
But they'd honestly be farming the ladder if sam was caught up on mage and they were playing ww fire with trill's gear
FREE af
Fought trill in 2s last week he killed both my monk and me in 1 sweep actually nutters dmg
Yeah
But then in 3s he's playing with cdew's hpal and a dk
Could be doing so much better for himself

Trill mitchjones and the mies
Would be unstoppable
100%
Yea imagine trill if sam actually had a geared fire mage ya
BOAT good enough for pvp or should I craft the starsurge smog one?
SSG will prolly always b my fave just cuz the goredawg taught me everything I no about rdruid but trills an absolute legend @clear pulsar
I like to play balance pve but resto pve - do i buy the staff or the 1-hand + offhand from arena vendor ?
Rewrite that
The only diff is secondaries, and different covenants apparently have different secondaries on the vendor gear
Just the idea that this one guy is a world first raider, a blizzcon arena champion, and competes in MDI, it's kinda crazy right? @tiny oar
Ya that's the american dream right there bro
Bro sdfu lol
All you green names just super hate on m+ it's so silly
Yeah 4 years ago
Wait true

is it gay to swap dps classes as the content requires
i love feral but boomie is just insane in aoe situations
Yeah I think in m+ the top competitors are way closer to the absolute ceiling than in arena or raid
Just by the nature of it being a speedrun on a lower level
But this year apparently they wanna do like, highest push competitions too
They have legit the same stats, 1h+oh has 1 more int, 2h has 1 more secondary budget, it's same thing.
Take the haste vers option if there is no mastery vers combo @feral radish
Afaik in pve, boomie's haste > all other 3 sort of tied!?
Or uh
Mastery > all other 3
Yeah I imagine homeboy's convoke
Wasn't crit like bis in BFA?
How the turntables

Not gonna lie bro
Legion m+ was the best too
Ghuunies straight up killed my interest in m+ first 2 weeks of season 1
Only dungeon that was weird/bad in Legion was Seat and maybe Arcway was too long
ty for inputs - im convoke
Legion was goated man
thinking staff
I had like 8 max lvl toons that I just fucked around in arena all the time
I think last season of m+ was cool
With the obelisks
best socket slot?
Jewel cluster
Google it
Bro you may not want to tell him to google it, he'll read the link and then say the site doesn't tell him even tho he didn't even open

and how do i put the damn jewel in the socket
it dont work
damn that sucked
Opens another window
Drag the gem to the new window it opened
The lap counter is a weakaura yeah!?
Shit's hilarious
Needed that in dalaran
Glyph wanna make a donash for my azralon druid?
I dont have gold to buy a legendary
same
Disgusting vorgen ??
@vestal citrus ???
What's your problem
OK
Its your mage
The CLIP
Kinda cute
But i already see why u suck on it
Only one barrier
:)
Man last second mind games when Iโm getting trained are annoying af
Missing two more barriers and u can tank
Mindgames big counter to any druid spec
So disgusting
Yeah all the hots I already have out are the literal death of me
Well if you're at 50% hp, mindgames hits you for 7k then another 7k from FR proc
Execute finishes you easy
BIG UPGRADE BOYS
20 ilvl upgrade

I was thinking about going something else, but those apes are clueless they dont even know what honed ins
Is
What soulbind are you going for on boomer nf? Niya or Dreamweaver?
Pod can win you games you shouldn't have won but niya is big big dam
I default to niya
Did u switch from necro wtf @clear pulsar
I have 2 druids
One to be a meta slave, one to be happy
bro
5% more dam
Nice
unhealable dam now
Condemn is insane isnt it
yes
but i think
i need more more gear
like super rage starve
if u wanna keep ignore pain
and do dam
i need at least 20% haste
and iam at 10%
but with bis gear
Oh yeah need more haste than that for sure
i dont think so this one is insane
Condemn + massacre + procs + execute charge
Just keep dashing to people
The entier game
condemn base dmg is like 4.1k
and the absorb is a bit more than a half
of it
it stacks to 3 times
on a target
so around 7k
- mastery + warbreaker + avatar suddenly you also have 5k absorbs
I wanna level a toon, on one hand I want venthyr cuz I think the tea parties are hilarious and the mogs are great, on the other hand I kinda wanna play DH but I don't want 2 night fae toons
Condemn wars fuck me harder than I've ever been fuked be4 in my life
i will show u something
i wonder if its rly that op
but let me check
ok nvm
now it says 1 min internal cd
but this seems to be insane
Yeah esp with trinket bonus
ok now i have every covenant aviable
nf kyrian druids
arms venthyr and necro dk
that i dont play tho
Haha nice
Yeah I'm thinking venthyr warr and maybe I go kyrian on main druid and make dh night fae
Or I level a kyrian rogue
idk iam not leveling no more, i need to get good again, cuz i feel like an ape
playing
It's better than fury
thats a very low bar
iam not gonna raid
fury warrs 
Well yeah but that's the alternative
you dont bring arms to dungeons usually
If you're gonna play warrior ,arms is the best spec
warr utility is to shit if u aint prot
People used sephuz before their bis lego was available
i kind of play all specs for druid
is it normal to have 1600 cr and lose 5-10 points in rbg? thought u didnt lose points until 2k+?
Bro yall have these wild ideas lmao
Why did you ever think you didn't lose points til 2k
people said so
ye
If you have 1400 rating and play into 2k mmr, you won't lose points for a loss, and you'll gain a lot for a win
If you have 1800 rating and play into 1600 mmr, you'll lose a lot
And not gain much
you can lose rating at 900 cr if your mmr is 900
just thought the mmr was more broken, but aight
it is
You may not lose rating until 2k cr if you're on a win streak and your team's mmr is matching you up with enemy big time
RBGs are kinda giga inflated rn
why did rbgs get so popular again this xpac
they didnt
Cuz ez vault honor cap
also that
Very quick
last time I checked it was just filled with drama and cheaters
this guy opened on me as hpal with 4k warbreaker 6k ms 10k condemn. i have 24k hp LUL @lime light
still is
did they do a new expose twitlong
It's filled with twitter drama, power hungry pedos, and people getting boosted
not that i know of
no kickbots?
fully playable then
i'll submit my resume as a kindergarten teacher
Not that I could tell, I think generally people think kickbots haven't been an issue since Legion
member wod
when top of ladder was kickbot/flighthack mandatory
@lime light I need you to be like this guy
Except he's 14hundo
But so are you it's ok
Bro there's nothing more wild than seeing someone with 5k more hp than you in arena
And then they lose
biggest fun
220 ilvl jesus fuck these freaks are sweatlords
The only difference is how much gold you spend on the armor pieces
The total soul ash cost is the same
It's crazy isn't it? And pveers have the gall to complain about pvp being too good for gearing
if pve'rs didnt want to pvp for gear the would commit and do splits
well the gold is expensive
The only thing pvp gives you as an advantage is a guaranteed weapon at max ilvl
but nooo that is to much work
wod system pog
but its boring ....
cause splits give such insane amounts of gear rn
2 weeks
they do if u do split for every person in raid with armour stacks
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just run the raid 30 times bro
at least then u dont have to pvp

is there any fast way that doesnt cost 8000 honor
to get a 184 wep
effective too?
bc mythic gearing is trash
rbgs drops epic gear?
no but they give hella honor
193 ilvl i just got declined from m0
@vestal citrus i have one question
why do u say
HONOUR LIKE FRENCHY
armour
also
?
so u are half french
i get it
@obtuse ice he hates u
i need to know how to say in french
"change to marksman u little ape"
could be a play ye
if i do a m2 dung does it lock out for the week on m2
whats wrong with saying honour
do you say defense instead of defence too
when i say honor
there is hope
You cant kill hope
blizzard devalued my white cloud serpent with their shitty nzoth patch
ye, once i learn how to say swap to marksman in french

insta glad
now everything thinks im just a casual that farms vale rares on 20 chars instead
pog
french gamers toxic smh
er
till he faces warlock
americans are most toxic
and uses slangs every other word
starts with a slang ends with a slang word
always using what not word
innit ya slag
british be dropping the most slang
'it em bruv
nah brits are more gentlemen ๐
guess jony is american
when u speak with a guy from uk
nah
since they think brits are posh gentlemen
nah
peng ting
m canadian
levels
that is also true
meh the rank 4 is so expensive lol
i got the dreambinder
thinking to make the rank 4 of it
but it does not benefit me in torghast runs
feral is better in torghast
dont craft a leggo for torghast lol
only thing its better in lol
and i mean torghast is just stealth to last boss and kill it anyway
15 min in and out
I tried to record a video carrying a boostee
i have hard time doing it as boomie
Did it the way I usually do it solo
feral i have no problem in torghast
Last boss had 1m hp I had 7 anima powers in total

Didn't happen
But I was doing very good on time
Yeah all druids specs nice af
feral die die die
I've done layer 8 as all 4 at this point
needs a baby sitter everywhere lol besides torghast maybe
and can just reset stacks on last boss if it wont die in time
OK bro you're catching a mute holy shit I can't put up with this
and repeat
toxic
u see so many spells missing
those thing boosted our stuff
we had dodge
etc etc
good days mhm
random doge isnt good
its wow
in cata
it was like this
talent trees
u did not play classic ?
u can play it
cata 
to check out
If you reach 1800 and unlock 220 gear at the vault, do you lose that tier of loot if you drop cr?
POG 32 ilvls up on weapon now this morning
@serene basin no, vault is based on highest weekly win
m playing warfract form the rts orcs and human
fucking boomer glyph
Damn machtig a boomer too
why u a millenial?
23
nah machtig is my age
stfu
lmao iam 27 this year, and iu play a game for idiotic kids
irl achieves >
ah okay i'll agree with u @clear pulsar
how about that?
and mute too
couple more years and i am retiring
honestly feel like retiring
yeah i shld quit this game
game just aint that fun anymore

i end up spending money on useless gacha games
when i quit wow
yeha get bored
of work
too much work
T_T
ausis kids
spend student loan likem ad
it was back then lol
like mad
covid making me spend money on alcohol instead of leeching off my homies


jk we always drink at my place
brought back 180 euro worth of beer crates

Change en prรฉci espรจce de singe


can nearly buy a boost
Should I make a macro that cancels my hots on me for when I get mind games and cleanse is down
i spent 100โฌ on alcohol and snacks and it's all gone now
i spent 100$ on bitches and now i have corona
try not getting so cheap bitches next time
You can't make a macro that cheks your cds for you @stone nest
all my drinking buddies are normies
most of mine too
but they do minecraft and rocket league sometimes
and discord easy to chat
I mean Iโm aware of when itโs down and instead of dying I could hit that
anyone using [Fury of Elune]?
Sure, you can macro /cancelaura rejuvenation etc for each hot if you want
I'm not sure that's exactly a good thing to do but
Maybe!?
is it possible to disable weakauras in arena?
thx

@clear pulsar strange thing. i have it like this. and it still loads anywhere?
no instance
yeah i mean. i have arena unchecked and it still loads there
you have arena checked
if i swap my cov, can i get back the renown via pvp ?
yes
cancel the queue ๐
@devout frost yeah but it also loads in dungeons without them checked
big mood
Lake I got a 32 ilvl upgrade on weapon
i wanna sip with all the feral homies damn sounds juice
we can plan a date
My alt weapon is now better than fuji's main's 
Com to brazil?
no guardiands tho
๐ฎ
nice dude thats like 30% more dam @clear pulsar
huge dam inc @clear pulsar

ret
it is
the god class in wow ranged ret
templar lego
gives them 10 yards on templar
and most of their damgur is also from judge
that is range
what is anti ret
that can outlive their damage
idk if any class can do it
used to be dks
frost mage
remember when dks was ressing ghouls
in arenas
n when they die they res as ghoul too
i think that was the most op thing we met
wrath dks man too op
what do you do vs monk ret as druid
Jb getting mega booted in 2s
Tbc glad kek
cry
and then smile cause theyre playing ret instead of holy or prot









