pvp

[echo crescent]

they do more offer more

i have tried it myself

[scenic snow]

removing a part of the game changes your damage output, more news at ten

[fast vale]

^

[echo crescent]

who in their right mind design this borrowed power from legion idk

[fast vale]

The fact is it exists

[echo crescent]

i wld fire that designer in my game company

[fast vale]

So who gives a fuck what it would look like without it

[forest kite]

Paladins have a trash leggo so they get less from the borrowed power this expan

Druids have great legendaries and conv abilties.

But I'd agree the base specs are lacking

[scenic snow]

it's pretty cool that there's atleast some customization of your class now, wow has been missing that forever

even if it's just a choice between 4 things

[fast vale]

It’s better than I expected tbh

[echo crescent]

well we can agree that druid been not doing that great

in classic there wld be place for druid to be fc

that is long gone

why someone want a druid when other class does it better

[forest kite]

All 3 pvp specs are doing amazing rn?

[oblique wharf]

Lol wat

The class is great, even without covenants

Majority of my kills are without convoke

[forest kite]

At worst They are all A tier

[devout frost]

resto isnt doing great

[forest kite]

Resto is in pvp

[devout frost]

but all specs are good

[forest kite]

Resto is A tier though

[devout frost]

its one of the weaker healers for sure right now

only MW and holy are worse

[spare harbor]

Resto fucking sucks compared to pally shaman or priest

[devout frost]

but its not bad

[green valve]

you guys think its worth leveling feral just to learn it? ive only ever played boomie and resto in arena

[oblique wharf]

Resto is really good, the meta just doesnt favour them. Let the meta slow a bit and you will see them do great

[devout frost]

its one of the best metas we ever had

[fallow thunder]

do you always have to upgrade conq gear from base lvl or can you get it pre upgraded if you climb a bracket

[devout frost]

there is like 3 specs in the game that arent viable

[forest kite]

For me sham priest then Paladin Druid same tier tbh

[devout frost]

pala is better than sham

[oblique wharf]

Paladin S tier

The rest A tier

Then MW Holy

[devout frost]

Disc/Hpal > Sham > Druid > Holy/MW

imo

[spare harbor]

Exactly ^

[devout frost]

i would rather have a shaman than a druid rn

[oblique wharf]

Swap sham and disc and I'd agree

[devout frost]

disc brings way to much dmg steroids for me to call it worse than sham

[oblique wharf]

Disc is great in its comps, but its not a universally great healer like sham and hpal

[devout frost]

dark arch is just busted

[forest kite]

Fair sham > Druid but I just don’t think hpal can be the best with all the warriors and priests running around

[echo crescent]

dots and hots gets purged

[devout frost]

hpal have insane damage

[echo crescent]

and hunter got that anti bleed legendary

and hpal have insane damage

[devout frost]

the red circle thing

[echo crescent]

prove ur point with image of damage and heals

[devout frost]

does chunks

[sand spade]

Is there such a thing as OmniBar import?

[echo crescent]

i have tested it

druid is good but averagely good

[forest kite]

Just los the ven circle?

[echo crescent]

when compared to other class

btw have anyone tried circle?

[sand spade]

Looking for 3 bars:
Interupt
Offensive CDs
Defensive CDs

[oblique wharf]

Balance is on par with the best caster in the game rn

[echo crescent]

and druid offensive cd is 3 min

avenging wrath 1 min

[devout frost]

wouldnt say best but we are strong

[echo crescent]

not that weak

[devout frost]

everything is good rn

[echo crescent]

but not really that strong

[oblique wharf]

They are right up there with spriest

[echo crescent]

idk man

been playing the game from classic

[devout frost]

only specs that are lacking atm for me is mw/hpriest, fury/demo/assass

[echo crescent]

feels druids always get shelved

[devout frost]

rest is viable

[echo crescent]

when ever anything good happens

[forest kite]

Balance is 100% S tier. Feral and resto are A. You can’t always be the best

[echo crescent]

every one complains

and gets nerfed

players logic

[oblique wharf]

Like you?

[forest kite]

Because cyclone holds the class down

[echo crescent]

why a hybrid can do damage

[forest kite]

Cyclone holds druids back I’ll die on this hill

[devout frost]

clone is great

[scenic snow]

what do you think about boomer legendaries for PvP? I only recently fell in love with booming and I missed the opportunity to get Balance of All Things... wondering if I should just make Timeworn Drembinder or wait for the Torghast wing to spawn for BoaT

[devout frost]

glad its not a mandatory pvp talent anymore

[devout frost]

dreambinder always over boat

[scenic snow]

I'm Night Fae btw

[oblique wharf]

They both have their place

[echo crescent]

got 6.2k soul ash

[devout frost]

as NF deffo dreambinder

[forest kite]

I meant cyclone should have been removed or changed long ago

[devout frost]

if u dont want ur crutch to be even bigger

[echo crescent]

was thinking to make 2-3 legendaryies

is circle good?

[scenic snow]

thanks reformed

[devout frost]

good for pve

for feral

[scenic snow]

I shall craft me a legendary

[echo crescent]

i have not crafted mine

[devout frost]

meta is to fast for it to be great in pvp right now

[echo crescent]

how is oath

[devout frost]

i wouldnt use oath as feral or boomer

[echo crescent]

well bleed damage is almost nothing

[finite quartz]

legendary and covenant for 2s with disc priest? Any suggestions?

[echo crescent]

auto does more damage than bleed

[devout frost]

ok for resto i guess some like it

[devout frost]

resto disc bit troll no

[scenic snow]

btw does Timeworn Dreambinder reset the duration whenever you use Starsurge?

[finite quartz]

feral ofc

[scenic snow]

like can you keep the 20% going longer or nah

[devout frost]

maybe include that then 🙂

[oblique wharf]

What, you cant play double healer?

Lmao

[echo crescent]

u can play disc and prot

does lot of damage and healing xD

[finite quartz]

people with brain would know that disc feral is the only viable comp over 2k

[oblique wharf]

^

[echo crescent]

yeah feral needs baby sitter

sad times these days

good old days was when we did not needed one

[devout frost]

people with brain would know what legendary and covenant to use with their prefered comp aswell

[echo crescent]

anyone tried bear pvp?

xD

[oblique wharf]

Its called playing balance druid

[devout frost]

if someone comes asking kindergarten level questions im not gonna assume ur xp level

[echo crescent]

[Legacy of the Sleeper]

[oblique wharf]

You will be bear 50% of the game

[echo crescent]

looks nice

[forest kite]

Bear paladin is crazy funny

[echo crescent]

wish feral had something like this lol

immune to cc

for 30 sec

[weak hinge]

bear -> collect ap -> instant starfires and surges -> 2k

[lime light]

@clear pulsar swapped to venthyr on warrior

big dam inc

[echo crescent]

honestly the separation of bear from feral hurt both lot

[devout frost]

you cant generate asp in bear

[echo crescent]

why they made bear and cat separate idk

[weak hinge]

@devout frost u sure? i always exit bear with full ASP

[echo crescent]

i see some guy playing bear

and around 2k

[devout frost]

what would you use to generate

mangle?

[forest kite]

Boomie is mastery or haste main stat

[echo crescent]

mastery i say

[finite quartz]

I guess you dont know xD lol

[weak hinge]

@foggy swan dots and natures balance

[echo crescent]

anyways what legendary to make for each spec

for pvp

[forest kite]

hard to pick between feral and boomie

[devout frost]

symmetry/dreambinder/verdant @echo crescent

[forest kite]

on which i want to focus my druid on

[echo crescent]

go boomie man

feral cries in corner

unless they buff bleeds

[oblique wharf]

Boomy has more comp diversity

Both strong

[echo crescent]

which they gonna never do

bite thing is not meant for kite class

i had bear affinity +bark+wall

i died

[oblique wharf]

Jony you want to go write in your diary instead?

[echo crescent]

from 28k hp to 0 in one gcd

[oblique wharf]

28k hp 😫

[echo crescent]

why u got 56k?

[forest kite]

tbh the main reason i will probably go boomie is so i can have less key binds

[echo crescent]

@devout frost this guy?

[Timeworn Dreambinder]

i thought this is better

[Primordial Arcanic Pulsar]

for pvp

[weak hinge]

@forest kite less keybinds? i have 5 bars full without macros

[echo crescent]

or this

[Balance of All Things]

oh wait crit is bad in pvp

[oblique wharf]

Pulsar isnt great

Its dreambinder or Boat

[crude minnow]

crit isn't bad when it is fuckin 40 or 80% lol

[oblique wharf]

Yeh crit is pretty good again

Up to 175% from 150% in BfA

[crude minnow]

crit is far less good when you have BOAT though

[weak hinge]

crit hopefully will get reverted back to 150%

the burst currently is too much

[echo crescent]

what i boat

i was thinking making oath

[oblique wharf]

I like 175% crit

But other tunings need to be made

[weak hinge]

well they either tune the abilities that crit for 15k+

or just nerf crit and solve it all at once

[forest kite]

Dear lord please don't nerf crit

[echo crescent]

nah they like playing rock paper scissor

some egoistic devs in blizzrd

if in my game studio

[weak hinge]

rock paper scissor? its like rock vs rock every game and its luck who's rock breaks first

[crude minnow]

crit is already not taken on most classes in pvp..... why nerf it lmao

[echo crescent]

i wld sack these people

[weak hinge]

@crude minnow read again pls

[crude minnow]

I did. I am saying a negative of that change

[echo crescent]

what u think will they buff bleeds ever?

[oblique wharf]

Blizzard doesnt like dot classes

[echo crescent]

correction

new blizzard

in old days dots was hot

[forest kite]

Bites > bleeds

[echo crescent]

well why they made dot claases anyways

no penalty for purges

[forest kite]

costs a global

[echo crescent]

talking abt purges its weird

prist has like 3-4 buttons for it

but shammy only one no?

also pally only one

what uguys crafted mostly for pvp boomies?

boat looks nice

[devout frost]

dreambinder

[weak hinge]

dreambinder probably

i use boat because i dont want to craft 2 leggos for boomy

[forest kite]

I wish the weps had int and agi so i wouldn't be fucked from playing one or the other

[calm hollow]

get 2 weps??

omegalul

[forest kite]

SAD

[weak hinge]

and whats pvp resto leggo btw?

[knotty jackal]

What do you guys think of Guardian in PvP so far? I find it amazing and much more fun than in BfA :)

[oblique wharf]

In RBGs? Great. If you play tank in arena, you are dead to me

[knotty jackal]

Oww well I'm sorry then because I do both XD

I never played tank in arenas but this expansion it has great potential imo

[oblique wharf]

Thank god guardian druid sucks in arena

[knotty jackal]

oh I think it's not bad at all

[oblique wharf]

Its bad

[forest kite]

Nothing like prot pal

[oblique wharf]

No endless heals like prot pala, not too much damage, no big immunities

Less disruption

[echo crescent]

make guardian vialble

[knotty jackal]

Legacy of the Sleeper + Incarnation sounds a lot like a big 30 seconds immunity to me 🤔

[echo crescent]

the better feral

[oblique wharf]

Immunity to CC, not damage

[knotty jackal]

with Frenzied Regeneration on a 7 sec CD during that time, it's pretty much the same

[oblique wharf]

And you're gonna kill something in that 30 second window with what damage?

[forest kite]

I don’t think tanks should be viable in arena anyway

They should be limited to usefulness in RBG

[knotty jackal]

Tooth and Claw + the Soulbind that increases Maul when you use Mangle

[oblique wharf]

They shouldnt be allowed in arena

[knotty jackal]

does big damage in the end

[forest kite]

Yeah I think it’s okay to allow them arena as long as they’re a total meme

And I see this as a prot pal main who’s pushing rating rn as prot

[oblique wharf]

Jesus

Plz stop

[echo crescent]

word of glory

i see that dude almost at 4%

oh noes its wod

back to full hp

[forest kite]

When I get a 30k wog off for 2 holy power

It feels bad

[echo crescent]

and holy power so easy to generate

[forest kite]

Yep

[oblique wharf]

Not bad enough for you to delete your character

[forest kite]

Don’t get me wrong I’m basically new to the game

So easy 1800 is easy 1800

[echo crescent]

do that as feral

xD

[forest kite]

Last arena season I played was TBC season 3

Back then 75% of my opponents keyboard turned backpedaled and clicked their abilities

[echo crescent]

oh i did sometimes for a while

lol

back then

[forest kite]

It feels good to have an ezmode spec to get back into it

But I want to play holy pally like a real human

[echo crescent]

but man classic to wrath was the real wow

felt an rpg mmo

[forest kite]

I just have no reason to do it at my current skill level / OP prot level

Yeah wow isn’t much of an RPG anymore but it’s fun

[oblique wharf]

Thats the issue, you learn nothing about how to actually play pvp

Your 1800 is unwarranted

[forest kite]

Don’t get me wrong

I’m learning a lot

[devout frost]

ye once crutch gets removed ur back at square 1

[forest kite]

Depends on what you mean by square 1

Unrated? Probably not

It’s not that OP

[devout frost]

square 1 of game knowledge obv

rating doesnt matter at low ranks

[past relic]

does convoke hit feared/stunned targets, or do they get immunity just like rooted/incap'd targets?

[devout frost]

it doesnt hit cc'd targets if dmg would break the cc @past relic

otherwise it does

[past relic]

oh ok

[vapid cargo]

Asking for a friend

Best restodruid legendary?

PVp

PVP

Circle?

[devout frost]

verdant

[echo crescent]

what u crafted for balance @devout frost

[forest kite]

Not sure which is more fun boomie or just convoke lol

[echo crescent]

oits just convoke

take out convoke u sitting for melee train

the dots don't tick hard enough

[lofty yoke]

is boomy rogue viabl

[forest kite]

convoke into starsurge is super funny but every other time it's just meh

[oblique wharf]

Its not just convoke@echo crescent @forest kite starsurges hit so hard outside of convoke

Honestly think kyrian playstyle is more fun

[devout frost]

dreambinder

[forest kite]

Going horde as we speak, is there a go to race for feral or it only matters for boomies?

[ember temple]

I see people have combo points in name plates.. What are they called ?

addon

[hollow dew]

if i dont remeber worng, is it possible to add delay to a macro? my hunter has turtle shell and cancel on same macro and he spams the button. Is it possible to add that he cant cancle for like 1 sec?

[devout frost]

tauren

[devout frost]

it wont cancel if he clicks it once

[oblique wharf]

@hollow dew i recommend not doing that

Put cancelaura Turtle on sometbing else, like arcane shot or aimed shot

If you spam turtle out of a stun, you might cancel it and just die

[smoky hamlet]

Yo if there are any current gladiator resto Druids who want to sell coaching hmu

[hollow dew]

Thx!

[echo crescent]

druid good at gathering xD

best thing they are at

[loud wedge]

Or rated bg

[echo crescent]

yeah only one vialbe spec boomies

but best at gathering or mining

[clear pulsar]

Druid's also good for attracting dogshit players that like to deflect blame when they lose?

[small storm]

i lose bc my teammate sucks

isnt that just facts

[forest kite]

Or you can be me sitting on tons of honor and conquest because I can’t pick which spec to play

[safe heart]

I was flip-flopping between resto and feral but when I caught myself playing resto druid, with feral aff and Master shapeshifter trying to convoke ppl , I realized I needed to just play feral

I like healing dungeons alot but not pvp

[stone nest]

Took a nap just saw this but yeah I’ll go with a war and win 85% of games with a rando but dk is difficult

[forest kite]

Frost dk is a pretty good boomie duo

If they have the stun LEGO

[echo crescent]

the stun is wrist

not a lego

[fallow axle]

Hi guys is here anyone exp with 2s dsico/feral ? I was last season 2.2k and now struggling to get back to 1.8k... Most common losses we have vs arms war/heal and ww/heal do anyoen have any suggestions how to fight them?

[crisp tartan]

What talents do i play as boomie?

[rain prawn]

These ones

[ionic temple]

@fallow axle yeah wait until nerf because both those classes are dogshit strong atm

[fallow axle]

@ionic temple So for now ill need to hibernate ? haha kinda sad ...

[clear pulsar]

I think you're just experiencing a season that's not nearly as inflated as end of BFA

For now anyway

[fervent gull]

twin moon or stellar drift for rbgs?

do we keep starfall uptime 100% in rbgs or starsurge all the time?

im fae btw

[edgy shale]

in rbg u almost always want to just starsurge. rbg all about bursting down a priority target, not putting some negligible dmg up on everyone

[ember temple]

stellar flare is another cast.. maybe not the best

[crisp tartan]

@rain prawn and pvp talents+

[somber vale]

What is the best lego for boomies?

[surreal loom]

When do you find yourself going for restealths as Feral?

[odd matrix]

what do i need to change in these stats for feral

more haste?

[oblique wharf]

More vers

20% +

[charred barn]

noob question, but I'm trying to set up my target keybinds, I noticed WoW interface doesn't warn you if you try to create a bind but the bind is already being used

so I'll create a bind and delete what it was for before without knowing, is there a workaround?

or you have to go through all your keybinds and figure out what's now being used?

[vague edge]

whats the best 2s partner for a boomy?

nm i see sticky

[oblique wharf]

@charred barn either sift through or reset everyrhing and redo what you got

[charred barn]

oh thanks jexen, i guess i just got spoiled with other games, other games will warn you like "you are about to override keybind are you sure?" or something like that

[oblique wharf]

Yeh addons like bartender do that

I think atleast

[smoky hamlet]

Is boomie resto affinity healing that much worse than resto ? Hybrids seem out of control rn

[oblique wharf]

@smoky hamlet is that a question

[tight ferry]

I find bear form affinity much more useful too

its got a stun, too

[haughty compass]

Incap just amazing

[chrome panther]

better off being guardian aff imo

feral rejuv is bonkers

[dire nymph]

resto affin is really strong in some situations

mostly 2's and not against MS

but I've been leaning back toward guardian affin

[timid prism]

Is anyone using LI for feral world PVP? I am running circle leggo

[dark flare]

question on gearing efficiency

i have the unrakned pvp staff at 171, and a bunch fo random gear from 158-184. I have ~800 conquest, should I use that conquest to buy up gear along the way that will raise my overall ilvl or save it for weapon?

[oblique wharf]

you know how you can Wild Charge flap to go mach speed like a goblin glider. is there any other abilities or items to increase my momentum?

@dark flare i got the strat for you

do ALL your campaign for campaign gear

with renown at 18 this week

you can upgrade it to 184

using anima

some easy anima is WQ of course, and theres a quest in Halls of Atonement for 750, if its a new character

lots of the campaign gear has vers. Once you get all that gear and bring your ilvl around 180, you can save your conquest for a weapon. Probably want to wait til the vault incase you get lucky

[dark flare]

thank yoU!

[stray sigil]

bro

FUCK

retwar

legit gatekeeping my 2.7

[small storm]

😩

i didnt even get 2.1 yet

[stray sigil]

bro spam qing into vanguards revo

they play like absolute apes

just press w

doesnt matter

[small storm]

yeah its annoying for sure

[stray sigil]

like were playing super well

but like

there is just too much shit

• i play with surv so

i swear to god

all they do is pop wings on pet

and we run for 3mins trying to rez

and we almost win

that should be illegal

[small storm]

i havent queued with survival

i always mess up when to heal vs cc vs pressure with double dps

[stray sigil]

in 2s or

[small storm]

ye

u go resto aff right?

[stray sigil]

prob ya

[small storm]

i usually go guard

[stray sigil]

with hotw

na

double dps u def need the healing output

[small storm]

gonna find a nice quel thalas hunter to q with

[stray sigil]

KEKW

[rigid linden]

Fuji back on the come up?

[stray sigil]

we went from 2500 to 2700 tonight not too bad

but ya vanguards plays the most toxic shit

and he pillar humps

kills pet

sweet

[tiny oar]

Lol so sick

He spent all of bfa in the shadows

Now hes rdy to crack sum skulls

[stray sigil]

na 0 chance we can get r1 anyways

[dark flare]

how much better is necro for resto than kyrian? do I need to switch over? or can I stay kyrian for balance?

[stray sigil]

everyone just gonna kill pets

and were screwed

cuz we surv jungling

ngl im not super super liked i think

dont think i could find many ppl to q with

[tiny oar]

Get ur boi to go marks??

[stray sigil]

willyy doesnt wanna

uh bit of both prob

i do tend to tbag ppl a lot

[tiny oar]

Love willyy troll gang

[stray sigil]

im perma from

meta baby

vanguards

and like banwell

XD

very unforch

i dotn even care about r1 anyways

just qin to q

[tiny oar]

Yea just break ankles

Tell Smight to just heal the pet better bro @stray sigil

[stray sigil]

we both spamming heals on it

but they lasso

they wings

w.e cd they have

always goes on pet

[tiny oar]

[devout frost]

[stray sigil]

its actually toxic

[surreal loom]

3rd pvp talent vs rogue/priest?

thorns or warden?

[devout frost]

what spec

[clear pulsar]

There's no warden pvp talent

For any spec

[small hedge]

Does anyone know if Early Spring triggers in 2s? The way its worded im confused, especially being newish to pvp.

[tiny oar]

Nah needs 6 targets for bloom effect

[small hedge]

Okay. Thanks for the clarification!

[agile carbon]

Is it worth using honor gear over higher ilvl pve gear?

[clear pulsar]

Item level is very important

Pvp gear having vers is great but ultimately higher ilvl = more stam and armor too

As well as more damage from primary stat

I think if it's within 4 or 8 ilvls it's probably worth dropping for a vers piece, more than that not really. Never drop weapon ilvl either.

[agile carbon]

alright that makes sense.

[main wave]

For feral pvp, it's vers and mastery? (As opposed to crit and mas for PVE?)

[stray sigil]

vers > mas > crit > haste

[main wave]

Roger. Thanks. Is anyone using their PVP gear in PVE and doing okay?

[thick minnow]

man pugging pvp is awful

played with a ret who did less damage than the enemy disc priest

[oblique wharf]

80% of ret players are bad

[hardy cargo]

Yes, pvps actually one of the best ways to gear for pve right now too. I dunno what spec you are but for resto all stats are relatively equal so it doesnt matter if you have a ton of vers.

[thick minnow]

for some reason the rets I play against crit me for 9-10k

this one's hardest hit was for 2.5k

[hardy cargo]

You see, you get bad rets, but others get good rets

Thats how this game works

[thick minnow]

for real

[oblique wharf]

Ret is super kiteable as druid

I guess less so if your feral and have to be melee

[hardy cargo]

Even with their root cancel, travel form/soulshape/sprints can get you out real fast(and make them waste horse if they try to follow)

[calm hollow]

What's bis leggo for feral pvp? And what does xp and Cr mean lol

[stray ermine]

experience

and current rating

and eye of symmetry

you get it this week from soul forges

[oblique wharf]

What final talent do you boomkins opt for in RBGs? Solstice or FoE?

[stray ermine]

i like FoE

[oblique wharf]

I pretty much only play FoE in arena, and it feels good

[stray ermine]

makes the kill target light up

easy to spot

lol

[oblique wharf]

yeh one extra star surge

2 almost

with dreambinder

aight convinced

[calm hollow]

I didn't get it from soul forges I guess?

Hmmm

[stray ermine]

layer 3+ boss

[oblique wharf]

gotta be 3+ and you have to be 2/9 in campaign

[stray ermine]

wait what? what does 2/9 have to do with it?

[oblique wharf]

its the quest to unlock legendaries

[stray ermine]

ohhh i did not know that

[oblique wharf]

yeah

[calm hollow]

Wait what

2/9 campaign what you mean

[oblique wharf]

when you open your map,. the top right will show campaign progress

it needs to be 2/9 to get legendaries

[clear pulsar]

@stray sigil willy playing with protpala rn

[calm hollow]

So I can't get it from layer 6 boys?

Boss

[stray sigil]

????????????????

who

where

how

@clear pulsar

[stray ermine]

@calm hollow i got it from layer 8

its any layer after 3

[calm hollow]

Do I have to be in feral loot?

[stray ermine]

no

i did it as boomy in a 5 man

[calm hollow]

I got one but it wasn't that one lol

[stray ermine]

went by quick

also which piece should i craft eye in?

[primal bane]

how you find anyone to play wiht if ur low cr

[calm hollow]

Advertise low cr

Lol

[primal bane]

i do that

no one joins

[stray ermine]

Join a pvp guild ?

[primal bane]

because pvp guilds have players with low cr typically or because they would be willing to play with me

the painful 10 wins i need

[stray ermine]

both lol?

[primal bane]

still pretty extreme since all i need is to like....be allowed to enter arenas mostly

id need an hourly reminder everytime i pvp

why we dont have a real queue sysstem

[short fjord]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/223972896219856896/794806547032178708/unknown.png

What a game

[stray ermine]

is it better to get mh+oh or 2h for pvp?

[forest kite]

Depends on your stats

Playing Druid takes a big brain primarily from all the fucking keybinds it requires

[echo crescent]

its way easier on any other class

pallies press one button to heal

word of glory

bubble for days

[forest kite]

Of all the classes to bring up in regards to binds you bring up Paladin?

[stray ermine]

ah shit i cant buy a weapon that fits the bill for both feral and boomy

form conq

[forest kite]

Yeah it sucks

[oblique wharf]

@primal bane dont you have like 170 ilvl

[tepid spoke]

all i see is a moonkin in incarn popping all his cds and a dead warrior with all his defensives not used

imagine asking to live through a full convoke incarn while not using your spells

lul

[short fjord]

Full?

That’s 1.8 seconds bud

[oblique wharf]

spell reflect, leap, fear

[short fjord]

My storm bolt is in the air lmao

[keen vault]

sometimes you just get globaled or the defensives don't work, like you can die in the first second of incarn if they are lucky

[short fjord]

One global

So I could have pressed something instead

[keen vault]

Blizzard needs to backload the spell

[short fjord]

But I chose stun

[keen vault]

and arguably needs to move the spell to the arcane spell pool

[short fjord]

It’s more so tilting that they did nothing but pop convoke from stealth

Whatever it’s guaranteed to get nerfed but I just thought I’d stop by and share with you lovely druids ❤️

[tepid spoke]

Imagine being so salty that you have to come to another class discord just cause someone outplayed you with a button

[short fjord]

I play a Druid

[tepid spoke]

Imagine dying to convoke

[short fjord]

Sometimes

Lmao you think that’s outplaying?

[keen vault]

idk dude I have seen glads get merked by lucky convokes occasionally. I am not saying its broken, but it is bad design.

[short fjord]

Ppl get so defensive when they are op

[tepid spoke]

Everyone i play against stops convoke

if you get a moon you oneshot someone yes

but he didnt moon u

[short fjord]

Bruh he’s literally on stun dr

He popped out to stealth and in the time it took me to bolt I was dead

Look at the pic

[tepid spoke]

one spell reflect

[short fjord]

45k dmg in 1.8 seconds

[tepid spoke]

negates the entirety of the spell

so idk what is ur point

[short fjord]

No

[tepid spoke]

ye

[short fjord]

It doesn’t

[tepid spoke]

s

[short fjord]

Lmao

[tepid spoke]

it does

[short fjord]

Reflect is one spell

Could reflect purge

[oblique wharf]

it doesnt negate it pepega

but gives time

to press something else

[short fjord]

Can’t believe you arguing that’s not broken

Point is I got one global off, whether that was the right one or now who care

1.8 seconds for 45k dmg is insane

It’s actually 1.2 seconds for two 16k crits

[tepid spoke]

its as broken as warlock was in bfa

or as broken as a firemage tbh

[short fjord]

Idk

[tepid spoke]

combust damage is arguably better than convoke and uninterruptable

[short fjord]

Some convokes aren’t that bad

But that one was

[oblique wharf]

it is broken, but its also a lucky proc

[short fjord]

I’m aware of that

[oblique wharf]

fire mage can do that every time with combust

[tepid spoke]

yep

doesnt rely on luck

[short fjord]

I can anticipate that

[tepid spoke]

and a shear doesnt fuck his combustion

[short fjord]

Fear combust

[tepid spoke]

and combust is 1 min cd

ish

and convoke is 3

[primal bane]

@oblique wharf what

[oblique wharf]

lol you can fear combust but not convoke?

they literally do it from stealth as well

and its all instants

all they need for 40k is meteor, fireblast, fireblast, pyro

see how fast that happens when their priest gives them PI

[kindred galleon]

Hehe

[primal bane]

anyone got the convoke pvp macro

[kindred galleon]

That full moon directly?

Try the firemage discord

[queen copper]

What do u mean pvp macro

[eager delta]

@primal bane

#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits(Night Fae)
/cast !Incarnation: Chosen of Elune(Talent, Shapeshift)
/cast Berserking(Racial)
/cast Celestial Alignment
/use 14
/cast Convoke the Spirits(Night Fae)

[queen copper]

You need a /cqs in there if you don’t want trinkets breaking it

[primal bane]

thanks bro

why is solstice the pvp talent aswell

im looking at damage dealt and ik my games are like 1 minute short

but it aint doing shit lol

[inland bear]

@short fjord warrior is the strongest and most consistent arena class right now and

you're complaining about convoke

when you have Die by the Sword and Spell Reflect

Fear

Storm Bolt

lmao

[clear pulsar]

Willyy-area52?

With vethosis playing 2s

The little ratfuck

[tiny oar]

Ya wilys a gamer

[clear pulsar]

Well he was playing with a prot pala

[tiny oar]

O no

We lost another one boys

[fickle junco]

isn't it wonderful when a pally uses BoP on you when you were using brambles to kill melee players only to loose all dps from that.

[clear pulsar]

Bro

[stray ermine]

is the sinful gladiator spear the best from conq for feral

or is it better to go the 1h/offhand

[tardy hare]

There is no 1h/ offhand for feral

[stray ermine]

ohhh derp

[clear pulsar]

Whatever weapon you can get at 226/233 is best for feral

Agi weapon ofc

[stray sigil]

hm ya it was him

smight and i tried to q snipe but

uhm hmm

yeah we dont talk about what happened

[clear pulsar]

LOL

No shame losing to wog gamers bro

Wog gamers are the ones to feel ashamed

[stray sigil]

it was def toxic

but smight meant to q as sp and he dcd or something so he got in as disc

if we played sp feral they were toast

[clear pulsar]

There are 2 diff teams queueing boomie fire rn

Boomies stealing fmp wtf

[stray sigil]

ya im watching big marv stream

[clear pulsar]

Who that

Axtin?

[stray sigil]

ya

[clear pulsar]

I was watching mes they were facing prev and the m2kc mage I forget his name

[stray sigil]

cmd

?

y are u watching ww dk scum?

[hardy crater]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-thats-pretty-true-train-wrecks-tv-gif-17236902

[clear pulsar]

I like mes bro

He's a solid guy

[stray sigil]

he does cry too much for my taste

[hardy crater]

do you have a tier three sub tho?

[clear pulsar]

Ceralium not cmd

[stray sigil]

him snd trill were crying bout how dilly is a bug abuser

last night

[clear pulsar]

LOL

But is he?

[stray sigil]

no

[clear pulsar]

Every arena player cries like that idk

GET WARDENED HO

[stray sigil]

ya but calling dilly of all ppl a bug abuser lol

cuz ur getting shit on

when u shoulf like never lose either

rubs me the wrong way

like vanguards ealier said we should win vs them

cuz of convoke

??/???;?;?;?;?

[clear pulsar]

Bruh

LOL

[stray sigil]

i was heated as shit

[clear pulsar]

Yeah grass always greener on the other side

All of bfa it was the same

[tiny oar]

Lol wtf actually fried

[stray sigil]

also method orange mega toxic to q into

speaking from experience

[clear pulsar]

Mage players/comps people always tried to paint jungle as this insane comp that should never lose

[stray sigil]

they are the biggest sweaters ever

[clear pulsar]

Oh yeah lmao

We played them in tourney once

[stray sigil]

blizzcon finals every game for them

[clear pulsar]

Imagine being a top 3 NA team and you triple spite a duelist team

[stray sigil]

ownt

idiot

[clear pulsar]

Tournament realm was the only thing that kept me from unsubbing for a while bro ngl

[stray sigil]

i hated competing there lol

[clear pulsar]

I was able to test so much wack shit in m+ just for fun with 2 friends. And in war games.

[stray sigil]

was so aids

[clear pulsar]

Nah not playing the tourney itself

Just having the vendors and shit

[stray sigil]

i mean ya

u are def a fucking nerd

[clear pulsar]

Felt like legion again where I had 8 max level characters

[stray sigil]

so thst shit fun to u

no doubt

fucking nerd

[clear pulsar]

I just like finding the memes bro

No u

[stray sigil]

nerd

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

@tiny oar did i see u p’ay hpal

are u scum aswell

[ember temple]

feral druid in bg 🥵
boomkin is so much esier

[stray sigil]

feral a lot more satisfying

[ember temple]

Boom is safe because of range, and a lot more Killing blows..
i die instant as feral because im melee

[clear pulsar]

Just being a caster is easier in fight but as feral you get to do other shit. Like whenever I do rbgs I always play offcart in silvershard, feral's insane for killing FCs in flag maps, having rake stun and maim is rly good for hitting bases in AB, etc.

[forest kite]

Feral has too many keybinds

Really needs some pruning

[clear pulsar]

Bruh

Same amount of spells as boomie lol

[forest kite]

Not remotely

[clear pulsar]

Can literally replace them 1 for 1

[forest kite]

Boomie has only 2 spenders

Feral had 3

[stray sigil]

at this point

boomy has 1 spender

[ember temple]

i have more keybinding with boomie than feral

[clear pulsar]

I was gonna actually type out a response but

[clear pulsar]

Not worth the effort

[forest kite]

Just like feral

[clear pulsar]

Yeah yeah

[tardy hare]

I only have 3 spells bound on boomie

[clear pulsar]

I only have 3 spells bound on feral

Shred bite skullbash

[stray sigil]

but bleeds

[clear pulsar]

Thats on my 2nd druid only

[tardy hare]

Xd

[clear pulsar]

Necro gang

[stray sigil]

[tardy hare]

[clear pulsar]

My 2nd druid has a 155 wep

I do 40% less dmg than on main

It's hilarious

[ember temple]

feral is fun i. 2v2., i play with disc...
In one fear I can maim and kill target as feral...

[stray sigil]

i still have 184 wep

[clear pulsar]

And face these 33k hp andies at 1600 mmr like

[stray sigil]

im a 37k andy

[clear pulsar]

37k wtf bro

Thats ccccrazy

[tardy hare]

Wtf

I have 29.6k

Xd

[stray sigil]

lmao own3d

get gud idiots

hahahahahs

[tardy hare]

Afk till full conq gear

[stray sigil]

are unsaving for wep

i am never saving

not a saver

i get it this week np

100p

[clear pulsar]

Yeah fuck that noise

[tardy hare]

My dmg after getting wep

[clear pulsar]

Not saving either

[tardy hare]

Big omegalul

[stray sigil]

saving is for insecure bitches

i am secure

[tardy hare]

I only get wep insta on alts

On main i either save and get it week after buying

Or never

[stray sigil]

whens the next banger vid

[tardy hare]

Need to play

Xd

[stray sigil]

[tardy hare]

Might q kitty today

3v3 vid??!!!??

[stray sigil]

zugzug

[tardy hare]

Prot war feral

Dab

[stray sigil]

ZUGZUG

[tiny oar]

Bro rdruid is so ass my 170 hpal does more healing than my 205 druid its actually stupid

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

No u aint

[stray sigil]

feral when @tiny oar

unfucking wot bitxh

i am so secure

[clear pulsar]

@tiny oar find me 3s queues I need cap

You have friends and shit

I play so nice on main s2g

Those alt qs scuffed affff

[stray sigil]

face no friends

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

I have this one mage that always asks to q

He's my cousin irl and he's the single most toxic player I've ever encountered in any videogame ever

[stray sigil]

worse than me?

[tiny oar]

I am insane feral pve gamer mayb it's time to reroll feral in arena too

[clear pulsar]

And he's a pve andy, no idea how to cycle DRs and pay attention to defensives and I dont feel like coaching

[stray sigil]

face coaching

[clear pulsar]

Thats when u realize how bad the situation is

[tiny oar]

Lol

[clear pulsar]

Lakerz fr tho if you have any friends that play well with a feral I rly need queues for cap

[tiny oar]

The other day I feral frenzied for 1 combo point in a torg run

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

Lol

[tardy hare]

Big worth

[clear pulsar]

I almost solod a 2man torghast in under 30 mins bro

It was legendary, I was recording to apply for boosting and stuff

[main minnow]

wrong place to ask this question, i know, but does anyone know if i have to complete aiding all the zones when i level with threads of fate or i can just reach 60 with pvp and ignore the aid quests?

[stray sigil]

i solo lvl 8 10mins

insane god gamer

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I solo 8 easy too but I' saying carrying 1 afk @stray sigil

[tardy hare]

Wtf

[stray sigil]

god gaming machtig

what can i say

[clear pulsar]

Did it in 25 mins, had 5 mins left on last boss. Then last boss had 1M hp and spams 8k 1s casts.

[primal bane]

so whats the strat with balance anyways

i always just spent 80% of my match running around popping defensives

i feel like a dummy practice more than dps

[clear pulsar]

@main minnow you can ignore the aiding zones quest if you want to

But leveling thru pvp is suuuuuper slow

[ember temple]

cope, same here.. but somehow i do a lot of dps anyway

[tiny oar]

My entire btag list is splay players or gpiers from last ssn @clear pulsar no friends for jungle or fmp

[clear pulsar]

Bro literally anything. But all g. My list is fill of rbgers too.

[primal bane]

but how, im behind in dps

[tardy hare]

My friend list either god gamer or bag of sand

[primal bane]

i do good burst

but im SO behind in dps

kick kick stun fear kick stun stun

[stray sigil]

my btag like 90% ferals

[primal bane]

i cant wait

to get an acceptable feral wep

so i can play that instead lol

still insane burst

but also u can play the game too :D

[clear pulsar]

Feral's way squishier than boomie tho

[primal bane]

but u wont get kicked and stunned whole game

[clear pulsar]

No celestial guardian, no balance form armor

Nearly all your dmg is instant as boomie

[primal bane]

also

[clear pulsar]

Sunfire moonfire insta-starfires starsurges

[primal bane]

why is solstice teh talent choice for pvp

when games are so bursty and short

[clear pulsar]

Fury of elune is very good if you play it like, lining up burst with badge/kyrian/rootbeam

[primal bane]

ok but tell me

why is every guide saying solstice

[oblique wharf]

FoE feels much better

Most high rated boomies run FoE

Pairs really well with kyrian too

[primal bane]

im fn

[clear pulsar]

What guide?

[primal bane]

idk

all of them

i just look at pvp talent

icy veins

wowhead

[oblique wharf]

Those arent really updated

Follow glyphs video guide for more up to date stuff

[primal bane]

yeah almost boutta say no shit

everyone in this disc is just like

any question ever? chjeck pins

[clear pulsar]

Feel like u should read the talent breakdowns instead of just looking at the talent calculator screenshot

[primal bane]

so im stuck with those

[clear pulsar]

The pins say fury of elune is very good

[tardy hare]

"any question ever? Check pins" #1 thing said by people who didn't properly read the pins

[clear pulsar]

Wowhead guide also says last tier is situational and fury of elune is good for short bursty games.

Imagine actually reading shit when someone tells you to read shit

[tardy hare]

People ask the same questions every day

Why would we write everything out in detail every time

While its in the pins, written out very well

If you dont put in the effort

[hardy crater]

Whats a pin

[clear pulsar]

Imagine having trill gear rn holy cock. They better open a 80 rating lead at top of ladder.

[tardy hare]

Why should we put effort in for you

[primal bane]

the fuck are you saying this whole discussion satrted

based on the fact

[forest kite]

Do you guys prefer boomie mastery stacking or haste? I’ve been going mastery for the fat covokes

[oblique wharf]

Tournament realm is gonna be interesting during AWC tournies

[primal bane]

that im NOT asking pin-questions

[echo crescent]

what is doing more damage

[Timeworn Dreambinder] or [Balance of All Things]

[primal bane]

priority of discussion is 207 ilvl vs 204 ilvl items #1

actual important gameplay decisions #38

[oblique wharf]

Boat if your lucky, dreambinder more consistently @echo crescent

[tardy hare]

Im not gonna scroll up 2 hours to find 1 non pin question

[lime light]

Hello peons

[echo crescent]

got to ranks fast with balance lol

[tardy hare]

3 ilvl difference isnt a very "important gameplay decision"

[lime light]

[echo crescent]

compared to feral

[oblique wharf]

@primal bane whats your question

[tardy hare]

[echo crescent]

any other legend is good for pvp?

was thinking oath myself

[oblique wharf]

Not for balance

[primal bane]

@oblique wharf why is solstice #1 talent choice in 30 second match meta pvp

[echo crescent]

how is circle?

[oblique wharf]

Some people think circle, but i think that shit is wack

[echo crescent]

no good?

[oblique wharf]

@primal bane short answer, its not.

[forest kite]

If only moon didn’t suck

Casting full moon on someone in BGs still gets that itch though

[clear pulsar]

The pinned guide says that tier is situational. The wowhead guide says that tier is situational.

[primal bane]

this makes "check pins" even more irrelevant

[clear pulsar]

????

[oblique wharf]

It doesnt

[clear pulsar]

It's a whole ass written guide pinned

[oblique wharf]

The information is there

[clear pulsar]

The pin message itself says "fury of elune can be good"

[primal bane]

yes but that doesnt really inspire confidence

[tardy hare]

Solstice is the easy pick for people who have little to no experience playing boomy

[primal bane]

in elune being effective

[clear pulsar]

Lmao

[primal bane]

more like a very on and off choice

[tardy hare]

Cause it is

?

[oblique wharf]

How about you try each talent out yourself and see which you like?

[primal bane]

i like moon only hate that its an astral lock

[oblique wharf]

All the work to set up a full moon, could have been for a convoke

[forest kite]

Druid players are either chads or the actual worst wow players

[primal bane]

i really use full moon mostly to force kicks lol

if it works it works

[tardy hare]

[primal bane]

if it dont i get convoke out

[oblique wharf]

Oh god

"Let me force kicks on both schools instead of one"

[clear pulsar]

It's ok, but you dont kill people with dots, you kill people with multiple starsurges in a setup. Circle does give you more shooting stars procs since it makes your dots tick faster. So it's ok. But it's not as good as dreambinder.

[tardy hare]

I see now why you seem to be lacking damage

[primal bane]

ye but put it like this

say i play a warrior+ some other melee or some shit

[clear pulsar]

"I always get kicked kicked stunned kicks"

[primal bane]

when is my window of casting stuff like convoke even open

there is so much utility to go through first

[clear pulsar]

Your strength as a boomie is that you can deal ur full burst in instant casts and have 2 schools to cast from brother.

[tardy hare]

Yes warrior is not an ideal convoke target

But

You press clone

[oblique wharf]

I love getting kicked on boomy, cause it does literally nothing

[tardy hare]

U get soell reflect or kick

You wait till he pressed stormbolt on something

Go nuts

[clear pulsar]

That's legit the entire point of the spec. You dont care about kicks nearly as much as other casters.

[oblique wharf]

Bait out all the stops

[clear pulsar]

Put up dots, throw out instant starfires, sit bear if your healer gets ccd, boom you come out at 100 astral power and blast instant casts.

[primal bane]

also some comps arejust disgusting i sit melee for 2 seconds i get crit for 10k 3 times in a row

usually happens vs pala and monk

and so i fele like im never open to do dmg

vs those

monk especially so agile

[echo crescent]

darn boat is rings?

[oblique wharf]

Peel yourself

[tardy hare]

Go bear when they pop offensive cooldowns

Not after

[oblique wharf]

Dont just go bear and tiddle your thumbs

[tardy hare]

Cause then youre struggling to recover

[clear pulsar]

Ww and ret arent gonna be any easier to deal with as any other spec or class

[oblique wharf]

Against monks, mass entangle their images and xuen

When you are taking too much dmg in bear, incap roar and knock them back

[primal bane]

legit just died after i sat in bear almost an entire minute right now

i thought to myself

hey this entire game i did nothing but stay in bear

[tardy hare]

sitting bear for a full minute is already where it goes wrong

[primal bane]

now i surely should have an opener

i legit died 3 seconds after i left bear

[oblique wharf]

Ppl always say just sit in bear, bur its more than that. You still need to kite and peel yourself