and prot sucks pretty hard in 2s
#pvp
dusty needle
because of how many rogue mages there are which counter prot pallies
ret is really bad in 2s also because its horrible against rogue
like the only good 2s comps are the comps that are against rogues or ww/healer or arms healer
or like anything that counters rogue mage
boomy hpal is the 2s comp i like to play but its not fantastic
haughty compass
Yea I donβt even know where to start here
stray sigil
i would just not pay attention to w.e that guy is saying
he was on some nonesense last night aswell
spewing crap
forest kite
Thoughts on what's the best spec for 2s with an Unholy DK partner. Been struggling with Feral
stone nest
Probably boomie. He can grip so they canβt los your goes.
hasty dome
just had full session of Rsham + boomkin... not fun in 2s at all
loud wedge
How come?
hasty dome
comps with too many interupts just fk you
feral 2s felt like I could answer more things
haughty compass
Iβve been playing feral unholy, with resto affinity and heart of the wild. You are basically a healer during their cds
Hit and run play style
loud wedge
Only resto sham comps can really "fuck" you in 2s..and its only 2 interrupts.. Bait with clone and fuck EM back
stuck talon
which gladius is the "right" one?
weary palm
just a noob question does toughness stack with relentless for guardian ?
trail moth
is feral + rogue good in 2v2 arena?
devout frost
is feral + rogue good in 2v2 arena?
if ur good enough to play double dps sure
stone nest
Most cancer comp Iβve faced is sp disc
stone nest
Resto and war is really good. Resto really benefits from classes that can put constant pressure and not only big burst windows.
forest kite
Should I craft my weapon for feral? or it is just a stack stick
dusk cloak
im thinking the saem for boomy atm, i have 190 onehand and a 184 offhand
forest kite
Pvp weapon drastically helped my paladin but I don't know if it is the same for druid
fallow root
From what I understand
Restos main job is to keep roots clones and bashes on the enemy team.
And keep HoTs up
floral steppe
Is vitality of sacrafice any good? It looks okay, but i've not seen any pvpers wearing it
lime light
Happy new year
Buff ferals lready
So i press bite once and they die
Pce
@floral steppe u are cute kinda
floral steppe
only kinda
lime light
Sure
tepid spoke
Wow
loud wedge
Happy New year noobs
tough forge
Happy new year!
Is there a way to sim pvp combat? Trying to figure whether adding the vers is worth the ilvl loss
haughty turtle
highmountain or normal tauren for feral? i mix pve and pvp
stone nest
Warstomp to secure a clone is nice
oblique wharf
Warstomp OP, bullrush ass
compact crest
if i drop below 1800 can i still upgrade shit to 220 next week?
hasty dome
yeah, I'm sitting on honor cap because my friend's mage tanked me to 1300 "testing things out"
unique cairn
got damnit lost arena and droped below 1600 to fear being spammed on me for 20 seconds π
queen copper
got damnit lost arena and droped below 1600 to fear being spammed on me for 20 s...
false
wheat laurel
Am i better off using 177 ilvl pvp gear with vers or 200 gear without vers
unique cairn
he just kept spamming it over and over π¦
oblique wharf
@wheat laurel probably 200 ilvl
hasty dome
yeah, he's military, and got stationed in Germany during late covid, and real computer still being shipped. So fire mage playing with laptop that gets 7fps on good day, and can't run any basic addons like OmniCC or sArena
oblique wharf
The stamina is huge defensively, and the main stat likely offsets losing the vers at that ilvl
unique cairn
and u cant uppgrade gear to 213 if u drop below 1600 right?
oblique wharf
@hasty dome oof, atleast he's having fun
hasty dome
"fun"
oblique wharf
Again, 30 rating leniency
hasty dome
I wish I were good enough to carry in 2s, but sadly I'm not. Just started to really concentrate on arena S4 of BFA.
unique cairn
yeah i would love 1800 so u can actualy get gear but it is so damn hard π
hasty dome
the burst meta is unforgiving along with all the new odds and ends between covenant abilities and legendaries
unique cairn
yeah most comps is just go in burst π convoke is a bit 50/50 either it wins or looses: P
one game u can pop convoke and instakill someone next time u cant even cast one spell π
hasty dome
pretty much
unique cairn
if its mele us most likely screwed due to them sitting on u 100% and perma cc and locking u nonstop .P
oblique wharf
The trick i have found for winning on boomkin consistently, is to first focus on stopping their goes
And do your go after
unique cairn
ww is nuts atm, cant get away from them π
oblique wharf
Use mass entanglement on monks
Use it when they pop images
And tiger
Cucks their go
unique cairn
they just trinket that and go after u again π
unique cairn
yeah but the monk still sits on u and stops al ur casts
hasty dome
ww was annoying, but manageable
oblique wharf
Use your mobility
unique cairn
well yeah u go bear and sit in that
fallow root
For targeting friendlies as resto PvP
Do you guys use mouse over or βParty123β
oblique wharf
You can knock, stampede, dash, wildcharge if you use it, night fae blink
unique cairn
yeah i do that but they catch me anyways π or just loss till they can
hasty dome
had a few teams that were entirely too on point tracking my eclipse
unique cairn
yeah u egt screwed then u just cant cast shit π
oblique wharf
They dont have that many stops anyway
unique cairn
and u hit like a wet noodle π
oblique wharf
Only 3 stops
If they use para, kick, and leg sweep when you are just trying to cast wraths or clones
Just incarn, and burst them
unique cairn
yeah that might work unless the other one uses their stuff π
oblique wharf
Well thats the point, you get cooldowns
unique cairn
they usualy save para for ur celest
oblique wharf
Make them not be able too
unique cairn
how?
oblique wharf
Balance druid does the most absurd damage while getting trained
Just maintain dots and use thorns
When you are at 100 ap
Get some distance for eclipse
And pump star surges
unique cairn
yeah got the starsurge leggy now so that works sometimes
i just despice the meles for their nasty permaslows and amount of cahinable cc π
oblique wharf
Biggest thing is rooting the images, do that and i assure you the matchup will be much easier
And straight up cc xuen if you can
Perma slows when you are a druid?
Just shift
unique cairn
yeah im trying that, hard to predict the future what they will do π and also hard without a permanent pvp partner with coms
well they just reaply it
fallow root
This guy inspires me to do some resto PvP
oblique wharf
With practice you will be able to predict what they will do
Majority of WoW PvP is predictions
Many pro players get far not because of reaction time or mechanical skill, but game knowledge and predictions
unique cairn
yeah nothing else to do in game tbh, m+ is pointless for gear tbh, pvp is the best way to actualy get ger and fells like the only way to egt gear in shadowlands
raiding is pointless for gear, nothing ever drops π
oblique wharf
Highly recommend ulduar raid, if you are starving for gear
Actually drops 4-5 items like a raid should
fallow root
@oblique wharf yeah a lot of the pros have been doing PvP since freaking wrath or cata
Theyβve got big time game IQ. Something you only get with experience
unique cairn
yeah did hc this and last week and got 1 item π from 18 bosses: P
done 12 dungeons today 12-14, got 0 items π
dunu why blizz made it so that u literaly cant get gear π
unique cairn
it is, feels like ur playing and beating ur head as hard as u can into a wall,. for nothing
did 40 dungeons last week gor 4 items π
oblique wharf
Statistically you should get gear every 3 dungeons if you time them
Just an edge case
unique cairn
yeah kinda sux π feels like ur getting punished for actualy playing the game. got firends that havent even cleared hc and barely done any keys, not even done higher then 10 keys, and they ourgear me, im sitting here clearing hc, farming 12 keys and getting notrhing π
oblique wharf
I mean
unique cairn
and they are 214 plus
oblique wharf
If you are playing wow for just the dopamine you get from loot drops
Probably doing it wrong
unique cairn
i do keys cus i love it π its so fun π
oblique wharf
The idea is that you have fun doing w/e content, and occasionally get rewards from it
unique cairn
but not getting rewarded on the way, is demoralizing
they ned to change the loot system cus atm, its giving u nothing for whatever effort u put in π
unique cairn
well u do get 35 anima π
oblique wharf
Gearing should be slow
Its meant to last the whole season
Not get max gear in 4 weeks
unique cairn
im fine with it being slow, and feeling like its rewarding doing stuff
fallow root
@oblique wharf agree, they nerfed it to address power creep
forest kite
i think the only thing that doesnt feel very rewarding is M+ right now
fallow root
@forest kite timing a key and watching my io increase is rewarding enough for me
oblique wharf
I rerolled im sitting at a pretty 197, so count yourself lucky
unique cairn
m+ is the least rewarding content in the game atm when it comes to gear
unique cairn
my firend made a hunter and after 3 days she outgeared me π she had not even set foot in raid π
forest kite
I'm actually kind of happy because it means I spend less time playing wow and more time doing useful hobbies
unique cairn
yeah pvp is the most rewarding content atm
forest kite
and my pvp gear is mostly enough to push my goal rating
oblique wharf
Yeh im about the same
unique cairn
plus the pvp gear has some damn ncie stats
unique cairn
raid is just as unrewarding gear wise as m+, but its fun to do π
if u want gear in shadowlands u are forced to focus on pvp only almost
unique cairn
well atm 1600 rating wich aint al that hard, gives 213 gear
forest kite
and with RBG you can get all your max ilvl honor gear in a week
oblique wharf
Not true at all
unique cairn
i could get 2 pices of 213 now and its better then anything i could ever get in any m+
oblique wharf
It all has vers, and vers is only good on a few classes
forest kite
then yeah pushing rating does take time, but I dont think most PvEers can hack it or would even bother
oblique wharf
PvP is def worth for weapon
unique cairn
pve weps from raid is only good if u do last 2 raid bosses on hc
or mythic ofc cus 226 π
oblique wharf
The truth is that pvp only players are the least geared
Versus M+ only
Or raid only
unique cairn
yeah cus u have a cap on conquest
oblique wharf
Gotta do 2/3 of the content rn if you wanna be mad geared
river rain
what's considered high right now?
unique cairn
but if u have the rating u can easaly get several 220 plus pieces compared to pvp wehere ina a week u might get 1 226 from weekly
oblique wharf
High gear is atleast 210+ maybe 215
unique cairn
unless u get insanly crazy ass lucky and get gear from raid but that is a huge if
and u might if u have luck on ur side get 1 item per full clear
unique cairn
would be fun to get sets back π
forest kite
they did say they are adding sets back (and confirmed it again recently)
but my guess is they will just be class specific transmog or something lame like that
I want to feel the extra sense of accomplishment for 4pc, the effect can even be relatively minor
they can add that pvp trinket set bonus to the armor itself
but i do think there should be a place for pve sets in pvp in some meme comps
glass cannon shit
it shouldnt dominate or even be very viable, but it was always fun mixing the two back in the day
chrome panther
nah
literally 0 fun getting globaled by something you can't predict
shouldnt have to memorize which redacted words are running lolmemepve set and who aren't
surreal loom
Whats good racials horde side for Feral?
I was wondering if Highnountain Tauren vers racial is buffed by the gladiator set?
I figure it would right? Because the set bonus just increased the benefit right? And Highmountain is a flat 1% vers?
chrome panther
probably is, tauren still better for stomp
surreal loom
Doesnt it DR with other stuns though? IDK if bull charge does
short sapphire
I was going to ask the same thing for Boomkin, i want either Tauren or Highmountain but the charge seams like it like it might be a good distance ability in arena? thoughts?
chrome panther
consider troll for an extra 10% haste during your biggest go
clear pulsar
It's all super meaningless tbh
chrome panther
boomie doesn't create distance, you go bear and be immortal
stone nest
Only issues with set bonuses is youβd have to have a different tracker since transmog takes away from knowing what they are rocking
tight ferry
do you guys root/solar beam before or after you use convoke?
tight ferry
like, should I use it right after so it happens during? or way before?
chrome panther
root is a good way to force convoke to hit kill target
clear pulsar
You should use Convoke when your team can get the entire enemy team.
tight ferry
Im thinkng of taking mass root for classes with pets so I dont fuck it up
deft locust
How much honor do I need to max out my honor gear from start to max ?
surreal loom
Can you war stomp while shapeshifted?
tepid spoke
Yes
oblique wharf
Warstomp paired with incap roar is super good peels too
oblique wharf
Long enough to matter
A lot of people dying to 4 second stuns in this meta
If you can peel for 2 of those seconds, thats pretty good value
deft locust
Hmm as 1st I need to get pvp honor gear level that up then do arenas
oblique wharf
Yeh get pvp gear and campaign gear. Many of the campaign pieces have vers and can upgrade to 184 this week
deft locust
Use whatever I get from arenas to buy conquest gear
oblique wharf
Its much faster than the honor gear
deft locust
Oh really cool if I accidentally sold the campaign gear can I buy it back via the quartermaster ?
oblique wharf
I think you can
deft locust
Ok ok π sounds good so Iβm renown 19 atm so u say I can upgrade that gear
hasty dome
19?
oblique wharf
18 is max lol
uneven obsidian
How come some moonkins are using Haste, and some mastery?
hasty dome
pref
Iβm coming from feral to boomy, so explains my lack of haste. 10-14% would feel comfy in pvp.
Sub 10% feels clunky
river rain
@hasty dome what's ur reason for switching?
uneven obsidian
yeah i guess it's preference. But i get confused, someone on the ladder was stacking mastery, and some stacking haste, I wonder if it depends on wich comps you play and what type of content
hasty dome
@river rain try it out
oblique wharf
@uneven obsidian mastery for meme one shots
Haste for getting clones
Both good i think, just slightly different playstyles that both happen to work with the meta
Also for getting eclipses fast
uneven obsidian
yeah, that seems reasonable. What do you reccon would be the best for RBG?
river rain
@uneven obsidian are you nf?
oblique wharf
I opt for haste personally, playibg low haste feels like garbage
uneven obsidian
Yes, nightfae
river rain
Oneshotting people with good haste is super easy in rbgs with convoke
oblique wharf
I would aim for atleast 10% haste, preferably 15%
20% + vers
And whatever you can get in mastery
uneven obsidian
@river rain Does Convoke scale with haste?
vast vapor
it does not
oblique wharf
Doesnt the channel get shorter
vast vapor
nope
oblique wharf
Or am i trippin
vast vapor
always 4sec
oblique wharf
Remember you also get haste from starlord, so you dont need a shit ton @uneven obsidian
uneven obsidian
yeah, If you play with that
one more thing btw, How come ppl have legendary boots instead of pants? Since pants gives more stats
wheat laurel
What endurance conduit is everyone running?
novel oak
is anyone messing around with guardian in 2s?
oblique wharf
Plz dont
novel oak
why
tight ferry
@uneven obsidian I thinkwe have better item level pants in the raid
oblique wharf
Because tanks shouldnt be allowed in arena
uneven obsidian
Oh right.
novel oak
ok bud
oblique wharf
Tanks ruin arena for everyone
stone nest
What endurance conduit is everyone running?
Well honed instinct is bis
patent dove
Guardians donβt do damage and they are remarkably squishy in pvp because of the general 50% damage received increase for tanks. Prot paladins are overpowered because they have unlimited mana and several immunities for themselves and the party. Guardian doesnβt have that
wheat laurel
@stone nest didnt realize i could use that as boomy
stone nest
<@!537153977381552168> didnt realize i could use that as boomy
Any spec it activates in any form as well.
wheat laurel
does it work in arena
patent dove
Yes it does
wheat laurel
pog
charred escarp
whats the easiest way to get my potency conduits? i feel like a world quest for it is never up
taste for blood
the feral bite one
lean valve
Do you guys like twin moon or stellar drift more for RBGs?
pallid coral
You can just buy that one from the conquest vendor @charred escarp
Probably worth getting at least 1600 first so it's 213
But
Yeah
stone nest
Can we get duplicates in the vault?
forest kite
yes
stone nest
Dumb
crude minnow
Every starfall cast in an RBG causes a kill target to kill your healer instead of dying
forest kite
wait do you mean something you already have or 2 of the same thing in the vault
stone nest
Something you already have
forest kite
yeah
crude minnow
Last vault, I had 3 duplicates shown and the only item left was a 220 glad medallion 
forest kite
I got my wep so i can't complain
lean valve
@vestal citrus I'm not sure, I dunno if spread/rot pressure with starfall is viable in RBG's. Not much of a pvper myself so thought I'd ask
Loot district had it like 40/60'ish
So is twinmoon/starsurge bursting just the better play?
trim prawn
crude minnow
Dots are good damage, but the consistent AP it gives for starsurges is what is nice
oblique wharf
How much AP do our dot ticks give
chrome panther
for rbg literally remove starfall from your bars
you spam dots/clone between kill windows and try to sit at 100ap all the time until TC calls a target
crude minnow
Booms are great TCs too. Just say who you wanna go for. Can even give a 3s swap timer since you have to cast wrath/sf to get in
low cypress
Dumb question... whats better the honor gear upgraded or mythic 0 with higher ilvl?
Is vers that much stronger?
like whats the gap though like 200 pve gear > 184 honor gear?
At what point is the ilvl >
Gotcha so its faster to gear pve then get arena gear with that logic it seems.
oblique wharf
you could probably calculate it out, but yeah a lot of effort
personally I would try to have a minimum of 10% vers, while prioritizing ilvl
maybe even 15%
valid robin
Do you like guardian or vdh for rbgs
Trying to get more into rbgs and after watching I think your balance vid Iβm leaning towards Druid
Do you flex guardian for bgs
Yeah I think being on offense takes a bit more but Iβve only ever been like 2k in rbgs and that was as Mw
Bit more skill* but Iβve also never FC, out vdh other day was getting eaten alive by rogues tho
Yeah I think that next time I will make sure to have guard tank, thank you for the tips
crude minnow
I have NOW as my guardian legendary. It's nice but I could see other being better
surreal heron
Legacy pumps
crude minnow
Yeah okay that looks insane. So many damn leggos I wanna get
slim canyon
Any of you guys do 3s?
mystic moss
Is there a best boomkin convoke weapon enchant?
foggy ferry
Why are resto druid so squishy now? I almost instantly die from 2 dps. To think i have 800+ versa. You get stunned, u trinket, pop overgrowth and barkskin and u still die. Balanced druid and rogues doing 90k damage in less than 5 sec.
What am i doing wrong? Should I pop my defensive on a different manner? Man sucks being a resto druid in Arenas.
stray sigil
why not sinful rev
did u just assume this mans poor
and cant afford sinful
toxic
idk used to be
prob not much nowadays
naive ocean
if i have 20% verse would it be better to use the double trinket for the bonus and give up the bell i use
i feel so sad with no bell for convoke
but then i get interrupted half the time anyways
forest kite
chest or ring for dreambinder for balance pvp? thinking chest but not too sure
modest violet
as feral how do you deal with WW?
drifting junco
Has anyone tryed Circle of life and death legendary with Necro covenant skill in arena? Is it viable? (Balance)
faint valley
does mass root put you in combat? looking for quick convokes and i usually moon/sun first but id like to come out of stealth with rootbeam and convoke if it works
clear pulsar
Yes @blazing shore
blazing shore
thanks
clear pulsar
Big unforch
oblique wharf
why do boomkins press starfall in RBGs
tepid spoke
because big pad
oblique wharf
useless damage
noble spindle
what ledgy for resto pvp?
winter pollen
I use oath of the elder druid but a lot of people like verdant
seems to be the most popular 2
noble spindle
thy
winter pollen
Can I ask why people like verdant so much in a purge heavy meta?
Like what good is 8 extra seconds when most classes can purge or mind games now?
silk orchid
What's the opener on a feral NF? I see some recommendations on icy, but it seems like you could just tiger&beserk to rake stun, then convoke and you've got toast.
stray sigil
@clear pulsar do u know how the skin leggo from guardian works
people are making it for feral im wondering if u get 2 regen out of 1 skin
lime light
Isn't IT only Guardian kid
stray sigil
i heard it works for feral
itd be a pretty pog leggo tbh
30% dmg reduc and double(?) regen proc every skin
clear pulsar
<@!102094910101913600> do u know how the skin leggo from guardian works
You get 1 if you press Barkskin in bear form
Then you get another one if Barkskin ends with you in bear form
It does work for feral I made it too
Tho I made it for keys as guardian
I think it can be a pretty decent pick, considering the feral legos do nothing 70% of the time
lime light
That looks so beta
I mean iam not supprised degas like Fuji and F2F
Wanna do this one
stray sigil
so u do get 2 regen procs
quiet patio
quick question
lime light
Can u do this one on head
quiet patio
best legendary for resto
lime light
stray sigil
yes u can
lime light
I dont have any head to swap my symmetry
stray sigil
u pre bear kidney press skin
clear pulsar
I tried to boost someone thru torghast layer 8 yesterday broskis. Was right on time, 25 mins in I was on last boss. Fully soloing a 2-man torghast. Then last boss had 1M hp and spammed a cast for 8k dps on me.
lime light
Still the best
stray sigil
i feel like 1min 30% dmg reduc alone is op
stray sigil
ya can be like around 50s
idk i feel like sym
is really not as good as ppl say honestly
outside of zerk its super minimal
spare harbor
stray sigil
its not the worst healer lol
clear pulsar
Now don't forget the ironfur too tho. It turns your barkskin from a 20% dr to a 39% dr against physical damage basically. Cuz your armor goes from 41% to 54% dr with ironfur.
stray sigil
have u heard about something called mistwesver
stray sigil
@clear pulsar that leggo sounds sick as fuck
fuck bri
why did u not tell me before
clear pulsar
I DID TELL YOU????
meager flicker
for NightFae boomie is it dreamwalker as well or BOAT makes more sense?
clear pulsar
I said it in here at least
Maybe not dmd you about it
But I did bring it up a week ago
here
stray sigil
ya ur big dumb
lime light
Everyone knew its good, but i wasnt so sure if u can use it as other spec
stray sigil
good think i have like 900 ashes
clear pulsar
I legit have one lego on a diff slot when I could have like 5 legos spread on only 2 diff slots
clear pulsar
Everyone knew its good, but i wasnt so sure if u can use it as other spec
Yeah I made it for keys as guardian now it's useful for arena possibly
stray sigil
big pog
lime light
Maybe its not a Play to mΔ kΔ it in same spot
clear pulsar
Nah def make it same spot
stray sigil
def ya
lime light
Cuz next patch
clear pulsar
So you don't pick a great item on the wrong slot
stray sigil
i mean ya not wrong but
clear pulsar
Maybe last patch, always a clusterfuck anyway
lime light
And there is a bug with mc
clear pulsar
But definitely not next patch
stray sigil
itd make some classes insane
lime light
That gives me heart attack
clear pulsar
And there is a bug with mc
DONT GET ME STARTED
lime light
But its fine
stray sigil
like imagine
clear pulsar
HOLY COCK
stray sigil
fire mages
clear pulsar
I hate that
stray sigil
woth 2 leggos
clear pulsar
Spazz all over the place
stray sigil
ya my healer does it to fuck with us
lime light
Epilepi ? How do u spell it
stray sigil
cuz he knows itβs annoying
clear pulsar
Now imagine you get the MC BUG ON TOP OF YOUR 170 MS
stray sigil
so mich
lime light
Ye
clear pulsar
It's the fucking worst I'm never playing with a disc priest again
lime light
And its here for 3 weeks almost
clear pulsar
Feral hpal aura mastery + bop for big convokes tbh
lime light
Also wind fury abuse dogs
stray sigil
ya but no dark arch convoke bro
clear pulsar
Bro if your convoke dont kill without dark arch
stray sigil
not worth
clear pulsar
You may just uninstall the game
clear pulsar
Bro if your convoke dont kill without dark arch
This is a very well written message btw
stray sigil
shut up u kyrian simp
lime light
stray sigil
kid
clear pulsar
Disgusting degans
Kyrians all have mommy issues and like femdom films
I'd rather be furry simp tbh
lime light
Iam nf on alt
stray sigil
tian has daddy issues
lime light
Dont bully
clear pulsar
I already play feral druid anyway it's not like I'm not gonna get called furry. Might as well not give people 2 diff jokes to make.
lime light
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
WHere do you get frog soulshape?
lime light
Maybe my disc priest hand will be fine soon, so i can q :(
clear pulsar
Oh fuck i have like no anima to upgrade it
clear pulsar
stray sigil
i have 2 lvl 2 things
lime light
I have regular soulshape
clear pulsar
It has to be lvl 3 cuz you need like 3 boosts on same seed or smth
lime light
They all suck
clear pulsar
Yeah I made lvl 2 anima conductor
stray sigil
i have the boosts lvl 2
tian
dont ever
talk shit frog soulshape
lid
kid
ill fly to russia
lime light
monkaS
lime light
lime light
He is a snake irl
lime light
That's why he needs a snake
stray sigil
true
lime light
...
clear pulsar
Yes I slip inside you at night be careful
lime light
clear pulsar
stray sigil
LOL
clear pulsar
Wolfhawk looks sick tbh
clear pulsar
I still don't have wyvern
stray sigil
i have
clear pulsar
I have it too
stray sigil
ugly as ful
clear pulsar
I have gryphon, it looks terrible walking
stray sigil
im using tiger or
clear pulsar
Cuz wings just stay stuck
stray sigil
frog has to be the most troll shit ever
clear pulsar
It looks hilarious
stray sigil
its bis
i would but im poor in anime
saving for lvl 3 portal thing
so i can go to oribos insta
lime light
quiet patio
hey guys, what legendary would you recommend for resto?
quiet patio
thank you kind sir
surreal heron
Thirsty boy
lime light
hardy crater
clear pulsar
I kept waiting for it to bite or lick the camera
lime light
And it does nothing
vestal oasis
Might craft DTL for m+ but also wanna use it in pvp, do i go with photo talent or still germination ? In arena 2s
clear pulsar
Any of the non-cc ones is good
I think most default to Emblem
I don't know anyone at all that's used DTL in pvp @vestal oasis
wind rock
Just saw tettles actually played double boomy to 2.4k? Lol
fluid kindle
maybe its due to me being still quite undergeared, but is the dmg a bit bad out of incarnation?
fervent gull
what is up with the rbg cr?
got +59 out of a game and got me till 1511
was hardly making +11/17
tardy hare
After 1500 you get far less
Or atleast
After 1500 its limited to something in the 20s
Before 1500 you can go up to 196 depending on mmr
fervent gull
cool, ty
lime light
@stray sigil @clear pulsar why my missions are so low lvl
in class hall table
like max lvl mission i had lvl 14 maybe
and my followers are even 25
lime light
TELL ME
obtuse ice
MDR
lime light
both donzo
tiny oar
obtuse ice
@tiny oar happy new year qt
edgy shale
so its my understanding that ww is busted righ tnow, but wats some general counterplay that im prob missing for feral
fervent gull
lol
tiny oar
What a goober
tiny oar
<@237412116024393728> happy new year qt
U too qt
clear pulsar
<@!142673512987885568> <@!102094910101913600> why my missions are so low lvl
You prob have one or two followers at low lvl
But also it happens
My followers are around 25 but ofc I still get lower lvl missions
They're good to farm, short duration, 40 anima, 300 gold, etc
Can just put one follower and 2 troops
Send 7 at the same time
lime light
what it does
tiny oar
I want a ranged television
clear pulsar
It just makes TV ranged, a bit more damage I think, and has a chance to give you a free Hammer of Wrath
It's from world boss this week, before this rets were running Sephuiz
clear pulsar
10 yard
clear pulsar
Not much but it's like, enough to make it way harder to kite
fallow thunder
ay, where do you guys search for a rbg team
alpine matrix
is there coaches on this server that help people who want to learn pvp?
clear pulsar
We have a lot of active people who are 2.4+ exp and answer questions if you have them (good questions with specifics and details get better answers, naturally)
I don't think you'll find people willing to sit in a call with you and coach you thru shit for free, but if you have vods and stuff of your games there are people who are willing to give you advice based on them
alpine matrix
I Wouldn't say i'm brand new to pvp but i'm kinda lost in general on boomkin. none of my high pvp friends play boomy so it's hard to get specific lessons
jade silo
Watch Supatease latest Videos
clear pulsar
The idea for boomie in arena is that you have very strong windows of instant burst, and a lot of crowd control, root+beam and cyclone are tremendous, and you can pool astral power for 3+ starsurges in a row for when you can get those CCs on healer.
jade silo
And then ask whats not clear
alpine matrix
in supateases videos he doesn't really show losses and in situations where he just gets hard focused and wrecked. which happens to me and i panick. i understand going bear form and everything, but sometimes even that doesn't keep me alive and i get dogged on
and i don't know if i'm doing something wrong and i don't want to blame the healer especially since i don't know what went wrong
vestal oasis
If i get to 1.8k cr in 2s then i drop to 1.7k will i still be able to upgrade items to 220 ?? Or it has to be current rate to upgrade ?
golden barn
Current I think
ember temple
So, i try feral in pvp...
just dont give any dps... play with a disc priest. and against 2 dps classes we are under pressure the whole time...
what is my role? to get bleeds up and survive ?
golden barn
Feeling pressured against double dps is normal, there are two dps after all
And 2s is slightly broken because no dampening start anymore so itβs sorta broken if theyβre hybrids. But vs double dps you should just pick someone and tunnel them. Swapping a lot isnβt good vs double dps
Depends what it is tho
clear pulsar
Your role is to use your whole kit
There isn't really a 'role' idk
Do damage, kite if you have to kite, offheal your healer if your healer needs offhealing
Use all of your spells
In the right way idk
Crowd control, etc
safe heart
anyone know if the owlcat mog for 1000 kills counts the ones in arena?
clear pulsar
anyone know if the owlcat mog for 1000 kills counts the ones in arena?
There should be a script to check how many you got
I'm positive it counts arena tho
safe heart
okay perfect, i just got the form so stockign up kills now
clear pulsar
/run AddTrackedAchievement(11154)
@safe heart
This is the 1000 kills hidden achievement
/run local q,x,_,a,b = GetAchievementCriteriaInfo,0 for i=1,11 do _,_,_,a,b = q(11152,i) x=a end local _,_,_,c,d = q(11153,1) local _,_,_,e,f = q(11154,1) print("Dungeons: "..x.."/"..b) print("WQs: "..c.."/"..d) print("Kills: "..e.."/"..f)
This script checks all 3 colors' progress if you want
golden barn
What spec @queen snow
queen snow
@golden barn Balance
golden barn
Vers haste
queen snow
what goes next ? π
golden barn
Not sure, they changed moonkin mastery and I lost track of how good it is in arena
fallow thunder
is it normal for people to /w you calls in bgs?
had this guy /w me during a whole bg then complain I didn't listen. I was watching /raid channel, don't have /w showing
ember temple
@golden barn
@clear pulsar
well, I just rolled feral in dps... never played it before..
so I dont even know what spells to deal dmg with ππ
golden barn
Am resto so canβt give specific advice but I know most ppl donβt use bleeds much anymore and bite spam
ember temple
Spread Rot/Single Target Damage
Feral Druids are known for their spread pressure from bleeds.
first then in pvp sectio.
patent dove
@golden barn technically, mastery does more damage than vers but vers is better because it has defensive benefit and it improves your damage regardless of eclipses
golden barn
Trinket bonus is 40% too tho
feral urchin
is there any situations cultivation > swiftmend
spiral kernel
thoughts on fire feral 2s comp?
feral urchin
ah ok ty, what situations would you pick incarn > soul @golden barn
clear pulsar
Never
golden barn
Never ya
clear pulsar
I mean maybe vs rogue mage 2s to avoid sheeps
But
Not really!?
SOTF is too strong
feral urchin
ok ty boys
clear pulsar
@spiral kernel douple dps is a lot more fast paced and hectic, you'll likely hit a wall at a lower rating than you would with a healer
clear pulsar
Mark of the wild is rly good vs many casters
Also an extra buff for purges to go through
Good vs mages, ele, boomie
I say rly good, well, it's ok
rain apex
devout frost
for what type of pvp
queen holly
does the legendary ilvl matter that much?
wondering if i should craft swiftmend legendary now at 190 or wait for next week for 210
dusty sphinx
I mean, you can craft both if you want to start using it now. Rank 1 stuff is cheap enough
wicked dawn
How do you do anything as boomie when double melee trains you the moment you pop out of stealth?
I feel like I'm in bear form 90% of the game
long pumice
That's why you need to play with high pressure class as a boomie - if 2 melees train you - kite them away from healer and let your 2nd dps do the Big D
mossy orbit
Wait, when can we get Conq 220 weapons?
hoary ledge
You can have them rn @mossy orbit
mossy orbit
Via upgrades?
hoary ledge
Yes
mossy orbit
Even if I havent done any PvP can I just hardcore grind it this week?
novel sky
you need to be 1800 rating in a bracket to upgrade it to 220
rugged rock
Yo guys for Arena as resto, is it worth getting the pvp gear on 184 just for the Vers, even if you have like 226 items w/o vers or is the mainstat just better?
novel sky
for a 40 ilvl difference the mainstat and stam probably win out
mossy orbit
you need to be 1800 rating in a bracket to upgrade it to 220
Yeah but I mean, if I start now and go hard and reach 1.8k can I grind out the conq I need?
novel sky
oh yeah, you can
mossy orbit
Ouh pog lmao
shell shore
Anyone have 3s tips as resto druid as druid/lock/warrior? Having trouble against good windwalkers and also spriest/affliction/resto shaman.
Against the WW teams i take mass entangle+deep roots and i try to match all cooldowns with the monk but warlock dies a lot.
Againsnt shadow play the enemy damage output sometimes gets insane.
lone yew
i was just wondering are boomie dots affected by haste? as in do they tick faster with more haste?
shell shore
Specifically, ww + dk shit on my warlock.
lilac venture
I'm so bad my covoke literally two shots people and I fail sometimes
devout frost
i was just wondering are boomie dots affected by haste? as in do they tick faste...
no dots in the game tick faster from haste
haste only add extra ticks
devout frost
Anyone have 3s tips as resto druid as druid/lock/warrior? Having trouble against...
prio rooting images and xuen since that is majority of the ww burst and they cant just break them with tigers
vast vapor
isnt adding extra ticks literally making dots tick faster from haste? the duration is not extended
forest kite
What can I play with to not get fucked by every melee cleave above 1700 rating?
as boomy
heady quiver
hi everyone, smb know what is the best legendary for pvp BG / Arena ?
I forgot and good year everyone π
kindred galleon
What can I play with to not get fucked by every melee cleave above 1700 rating?
1000 versa
hasty dome
Gotta get those corruption verse amps
devout frost
I am torn betweeen kyrian and nf, any suggestions
kyrian is better
worthy carbon
Ya I am kyrian atm, convoke just looks fun
devout frost
fun != good
worthy carbon
So kyrian is just that much better? Is it cuz of the consistency or what?
devout frost
yes
and because NF is very easy to play around
makes u superpredictable
and is a huge crutch to prop up bad gameplay
unique cairn
okey i need serious help how to get rating π¦
just went upp against rshaman and ww 5 games in a row i cant beat it π¦
rooted the ww and instantly got ccd by the shaman over and over till ww could stick on me like fuck again π¦
convoke always gets insta interrupted by literalye verything co its a dead button it feels like :/
devout frost
convoke always gets insta interrupted by literalye verything co its a dead butto...
correct
hence why we keep saying it's bad
unique cairn
literaly u press convoke then the millisecond literaly 0.1 second into cast its interrupted and al ur damage for the next 2 minutes are gone
forest kite
Play with a pal, bop/mastery to pop convoc
unique cairn
was playing with pala
had one good pala wich i got to 1600 with
then al randoms after that just seem garbage
umbral sandal
los the shaman and stun the windwalker, easy 1shot, worked for me yesterday at 2200 rating
devout frost
Play with a pal, bop/mastery to pop convoc
u cant do that vs a ww/sham
unique cairn
yeah
rooted the wws burst and as soon as i started conv he insta trinketed and interrupted
forest kite
Kyrian is better for sure in 3s, but nf is not " crap" it's still a press to win button in many case
unique cairn
what cases?
forest kite
And outside of convoc you still have damage, just pkay like kyrian does
unique cairn
when u have 5 second ccs up on both targets and they dont have trinekt
forest kite
With foe / badge / dreambinder
forest kite
And forget about convoc
unique cairn
insta locked down
unique cairn
as soon as i had enough asp they just ccd me ran out of range and stood there and kited till they had cds
forest kite
Kyrian have just a bit more burst every min, convoc can one shot sometime, both are fine
unique cairn
it feels impossible to play against literaly any mele tehy al have gap closers and unlimited cc to stop literaly everything u do
forest kite
U're more complaining about moonkin than anything else here :D
unique cairn
i have no clue how to win it seems π
devout frost
druids have insane cc tho
forest kite
Yeah, that why fire mage and sp are a lot better
devout frost
well then they just kill u when ur out of cc
devout frost
20 min 2v2 what year is it
unique cairn
felt like it atleast π
forest kite
The fact is, most melee are overtuned, also fire mage and sp and they are doing nothing about it
Not a problem about moonkin
unique cairn
meles are insanly incredably overtuned
forest kite
If they buff boomy, we would be insane.
unique cairn
thats cus blizz cant balance for shit when it comes to pvp π
unique cairn
i mean uninterruptable burst combined with mobility combined with endless cc π thats literaly mele π
unique cairn
lol where is it balanced
forest kite
And fmp pkague
unique cairn
mele is 100% dominating literaly 99% of al pvp
unique cairn
rouges can walk into u when u sit in bearform with barkskin and still hit u for a 1 hit 20.000 dmg
war and ww cn kill u within one global π
cus they can just chain cc and pop al dps and win
forest kite
It's not balanced at all for now, say that to lock, rdrood, rsham, dh, mw monk xD
forest kite
S8 was, except shadow mourn
nah, some season were castercleave plague
Right now, only dk, rsham, ele, boomy, feral are balanced then or it's undertuned/overtuned
hexed bear
anyone know a good balance youtuber, and or any good opinions for pvp leggo for balance?
forest kite
Is it easier as boomy to get 1800 in 2s?
Corkiri have some video on twitch
cuz 3s on EU seems to be filled with melee cleaves that are not really working when pugging 3s.
Minjpoke play boomy alsi
hexed bear
tyvm
devout frost
anyone know a good balance youtuber, and or any good opinions for pvp leggo for ...
pins
for leggo dreambinder is the default choice
devout frost
Is it easier as boomy to get 1800 in 2s?
boomy is easier to pilot in 3s than 2s
at least compared to feral in 2s
unique cairn
yeah boomy in 2s with the curent mele meta is kinda shit π
unless ur aponant is 0 iq and just stands still doing nothing π
unique cairn
yeah π
cus then u usualy dont have 1-2 targets perma sitting on u ccs ur every single cast and move π
forest kite
Then maybe the best option right now is boomy pal fire mage
Or ww instead mage
Ww bring lot of peel, and with mage too + one shot
It's also the two best comp for convoc, as kyrian pal sp boomy is fine also
tight ferry
if you want to play nf, I enjoy having anything with a lot of stuns. Iβm normally first target make sure you get into the largest open space possible and wait there for then to open on you to use convoke.
safe heart
so if i have 2200 conquest, with a 197 vers/mast weapon
is it better to go ahead and get a 207 conquest weapon or get 2-3 207 conquest pieces like chest/legs/wrists
devout frost
Wep and upgrade it @safe heart
safe heart
okay
tiny oar
My hpal is 171 ilvl I'm rdy to game f2f @clear pulsar
Newly reformed not toxic seev @devout frost ??? 
swift hornet
S8 was, except shadow mourn
S8 was mainly abous caster cleaves
S7 was balanced
S10 was the one balanced as well
forest kite
S8 was everything
Double heal war
Tsg
Thug
Jungle, liberty, rmp, many spellcleave, rmd, rls... Every thing was top tier
But s7, end of s9 and s10 were pretty nice too
lofty sigil
Does anyone know what to do as a resto druid during this burst meta, I mean my teammates in arena are dying in like 3s. Once I got full HOTS onto my mate with cenarion ward, he died in 3 secs. its quite frustration. What can you do vs. burst ?
weak hinge
nature's swiftness and stop people from bursting. play with a warrior or monk
ember temple
what is best 2v2 combo?
when you have a druid and a priest?
disc/feral?
disc/boom?
shadow/feral?
shadow/boom?
lofty sigil
I feel like you have to be on point with positioning and other stuffs to even have a good chance vs. this burst meta, if I got kicked once or got 1 cc, the risk of my teammates dieing is extremely high during this phase.
unborn notch
Any Feral Kyrian players here? What Soul Bind are you using for PvP?
barren herald
taste for blood and innate resolve
unborn notch
Pelagos or Kleia?
barren herald
Pelagos
dense gulch
When gearing which items should be priority from the pvp vendor? Weapon? any item without vers? 1h off hand or 2h staff?
boomkin
unborn notch
do you go down the left, middle, or right?
unborn notch
you don't like well honed instincts?
clear pulsar
My hpal is 171 ilvl I'm rdy to game f2f <@102094910101913600>
Thats prob better than the 200 rdru anyway
tiny oar
Thats prob better than the 200 rdru anyway
Sad but true
clear pulsar
Well honed instincts is insane always take it @unborn notch
finite quartz
Anyone playing feral disc over 2.1k in 2s here?
ember temple
what can i use honor to?
dusty sphinx
Buy entry level pvp gear and upgrade conquest gear
ember temple
so upgrading conq gear is honor? i have full entry
dusty sphinx
Yep, but you need a pvp rating to be able to upgrade. The higher your rating, the more honor you can spend on your conquest gear
ember temple
ok
dusty sphinx
Entry level gear can be upgraded to... is it still 184?
forest kite
Yes it is. Renown 22 is next rank upgrade i think, so in 2 weeks.
vast vapor
Does anyone know what to do as a resto druid during this burst meta, I mean my t...
yeah there is no tanking some comps even with every defensive, best bet is to run away & teleports etc.
torpid hull
what legendary should i go as restro and what are the stats ?
hoary ledge
Sinful revelation or Celestial guidance?
dim heron
is it still NF for boomy?
devout frost
Newly reformed not toxic seev <@506387240155480075> ??? <:PogChamp:2593518899324...
whenever i want to write something toxic i dont respond instead
π
devout frost
what is best 2v2 combo?
when you have a druid and a priest?
disc/feral?
disc/boo...
disc feral would be the easiest to operate and do decent
devout frost
what legendary should i go as restro and what are the stats ?
verdant infusion
devout frost
vers haste
torpid hull
is there a guide for it like stats talents etc, want to get into pvp but im fukcing garbage and dont know nothing
fast vale
Some decent Ish stuff on YouTube
devout frost
is there a guide for it like stats talents etc, want to get into pvp but im fukc...
some of the ppl linked in pin might have one
forest kite
What talents are convoke boomies going?
weak hinge
1 2 2 2 3 2 1 @forest kite
calm hollow
how do i get the night fae seed? where if you die you don't really die lol
scenic snow
it's a Soul Conduit
echo crescent
rip does so crap damage
devout frost
how do i get the night fae seed? where if you die you don't really die lol
you use the butteryfly soul perosn
echo crescent
Rip is really RIP
i wish they move away from bite game for ferals
ferals is kite and bleed spec
not sit front and bite
being so squishy
scenic snow
yep
calm hollow
gotcha
stone nest
Man Iβve been trying to do 2s with my frost dk buddy and it is hard to secure a kill.
echo crescent
just play ret/rouge/mm/fire mage
druid = trying to be somebody but not really good
now u gonna say balanc eis op
op with convoke?
what about the class itself
lets take away the covenants from class
scenic snow
get the dps down to like 50% health, then do the Root+Silence combo and you're good to finish
devout frost
what about the class itself
both feral and boomkin are in a good spot
novel sky
Man Iβve been trying to do 2s with my frost dk buddy and it is hard to secure a ...
yeah my main arena partner was a frost dk too, it's kinda not fun haha