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thorny venture
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not really

fresh portal
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im gonna build fearful symmetry then, i think thats a generally good pick?

echo crescent
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Well any burst is killing me

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Even if I pop all my defensive cds

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As feral

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It looks of you don't have immunity like I've block or pally bubble

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You just die

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Mage one shots me either 3 secs

fast vale
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Best resto 2s comps?

echo crescent
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What they did to feral?

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I played back in classic to cata

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Bleeds don't tick hard anymore

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Before I did bleed n kite n sit bear form

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When I was being busted

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Now I die even in bear form

surreal loom
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Get more vers or die? IDK

echo crescent
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For 22 vers

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Like m shutting with bear wall n barkskin

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On all at same time

surreal loom
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Oh IDK I rarely have to use wall against burst comps unless its RM twos

echo crescent
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I still died to Rouge on that

surreal loom
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Your teammates play is just as important as yours

echo crescent
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Where is fairies fire spell?

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I don't see so many spells as Druid

surreal loom
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... Aight we bein memed

echo crescent
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No this spec feels left out

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3 Mon berserk that don't hit hard

forest moss
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That seems unlucky Jony

sullen vessel
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Hey! Any 2x2 rdruid youtubers suggestions? Found one but eh

echo crescent
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While all other have burst every 2 or 1 min

surreal loom
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Feral is in one of the best spots in many expansions so Im not sure its "left out"

forest moss
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Well if you want to count TF+FF plus your conduit. I do decent burst w/o convoke and zerk up

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It depends on who youre running with as well

echo crescent
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Not really very squishy

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I never bothered much to play after cata

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If you compare any other class

forest moss
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Just have to unfortunately kite a lot, heal and kite. Then re enter prowl etc. If you can

echo crescent
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Yes that is what I used to do

forest moss
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Yeah cata pvp was 10 yrs ago ofc that was the best back then

echo crescent
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If I could live

forest moss
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A lot has changed for good and bad

echo crescent
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But I just die in one stun

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Feels mostly bad

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Wall does nothing

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Any burst kills me through it

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Mobility

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Every other class have it to catch you now

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Besides priest

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I miss my old feral 😂

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Idk if I should unsub

surreal loom
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So are you just going to whine when Ferals like a top 5~7 PvP dps? Or gonna get good?

forest moss
inner yarrow
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If say for example, I've got two pieces. One with crit/haste & vers at 184 and another that's 200 or 213 without vers, at what point do you take the higher ilvl piece lacking vers? I'm fairly new to pvp but I know that vers is important.

ruby walrus
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Do you guys think I should keep trying to push 2100 on Resto? Or just bite the bullet and try to learn boomy, Hard getting passed 1950 rn

echo crescent
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Boomie got lot of love though

inner yarrow
ruby walrus
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I do fine when i get in groups im usually top heals, but its the getting into groups rn thats the problem

forest moss
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At this point you need to adapt and learn of what other classes can do in 2s and 3s burst wise. It's unwise to sit in an arms warriors burst and UHdks. You have to unfortunately make the decision of opening up, pop some bleeds and LoS kite when their CDs are up. Not a difficult task. Wall+bear and try not to face tank them. Playing with a decent 2s or 3s partner is also helpful to provide peels for you too

ruby walrus
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Also I main RBG's lol my 3's is only 1700

sullen vessel
unreal sand
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What boomy leg are yall running strictly for high end rbgs. TImeworn? Oneth?

inner yarrow
inner yarrow
ruby walrus
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@inner yarrow Depends but Usually Abundance/Dash/Guard/(any)/Incarn/ Inner Piece/ Flourish (got teir if you know how to LOS)

sullen vessel
ruby walrus
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Early spring/ RR/ and either buff, Focused growth, or roots one

pallid coral
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@tulip falcon hey buddy

ruby walrus
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Yeah bear affinity is necessary imo

echo crescent
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@surreal loom let me watch you play

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i wanna see how you live ret/rouge mm etc burst

reef karma
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pvp resto druid BiS conduit? I'm night fae right now.

echo crescent
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i think its the onve from raid

ruby walrus
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Mother Tree is a good pick imo

echo crescent
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stoine general

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circle

reef karma
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bis covenant*

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sorry, not conduit lol

ruby walrus
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You will need to do PVE content as a resto druid pvp

sullen vessel
reef karma
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oof. i wonder how much work it is to switch

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and is it like.. way way better?

ruby walrus
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Are you RBG or Arena?

reef karma
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arena

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mostly 2s

sullen vessel
echo crescent
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idk i just feel its way to much work and et for feral than any other class

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almost any other class has better defence and offence

reef karma
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cool. maybe ill switch. adaptive swam seems pretty boring tho tbh

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prolly way better than convoke tho

clear pulsar
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@echo crescent what other class are yoy playing that feels easier?

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I think we are playing different feral specs

unreal sand
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Any 2k+ rbg boomies out there

pallid coral
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@tulip falcon gg, your boomkins and rogues made my entire life miserable

stone nest
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I’ve been dragging people behind pillars when they have no trinket and getting a one shot with good rng

pallid coral
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shame barry qed wrong

clear pulsar
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Guilty is a 2k+ boomie rbger

pallid coral
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im a 2k bear rber :/

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wish we had a rogue

tulip falcon
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@pallid coral our rsham accidentally queued as ele

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i may have ragequit

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everytime i could pick flag the entire team was dead

pallid coral
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yeah

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we noticed lmao

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our warrior only started playing defensive stance like

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yesterday

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he was playing second wind before that

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xd

tulip falcon
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lol

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yea we are trying to finish off 2 boosts

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hence why mmr was so low

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i queued for that 1 game now left, no idea how people queue as wrong spec lmao

loud wedge
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Im going to be 2k+ boomie if that counts

tulip falcon
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they inv me like its a legit group then its just some troll mmr drop shit

stiff plaza
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is BOAT mandatory in order for me to delete someone as nf boomie?

forest kite
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Anyone had an issue with not being able to cast starsurges in arena?

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I just got it, I was able to use anything else except my starsurge for some reason

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at the opener with 51 astral power..

placid mirage
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Man even when I get into like lfg at 1500 cr in 3s it's crazy

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Everyone like no u need 2400 xp etc

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But they certainly don't play crazy so idk

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They usually all say "man pvp is so hard this xpac"

fast vale
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Noticed the same

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I am dog shit and freely admit it

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But so many claim 2.4k exp and are equally awful

copper terrace
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Any better chest enchant than Eternal Insight for boomkin?

placid mirage
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How early are boomies usually convoking in 2s

copper terrace
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Ah Eternal Stats then

clear pulsar
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Cuz end of BFA was slow af games and super inflated rating in 3s @placid mirage

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Many absolutely clueless people getting 2 new rating high achieves

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Etc

placid mirage
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I usually try to convoke almost immediately if I can be reasonably safe from interrupts

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Idk part of the problem might be I'm running boat so I don't want to incarn without convoking

tulip falcon
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@vestal citrus yea we were doing selfplays but the issue was that our rsham queued as ele on a flag map lol

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he wasnt a boost

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actually triggered

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i tried to pick flag but team was getting farmed

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by 2.3 team

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first ragequit in like 4 years

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💪

placid mirage
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Let the rage consume you

placid hamlet
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which we won so they were not crazy high ilvl above me

clear pulsar
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Same role check

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Kinda sketch

tulip falcon
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idk would hope people notice usually

clear pulsar
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Also in BFA it would legit bug

echo crescent
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@clear pulsar m playing sp/fdk

placid mirage
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I got like 2-3 role check fuckups in my low cr rbgs

clear pulsar
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And if you swapped on role prompt it would swap back real quick as you were clicking ok @tulip falcon

echo crescent
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and they live way longer than a feral

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i am doing pvp aafter cata

tulip falcon
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ah yea i remember that

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had to re-do it like 3 times

echo crescent
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i bought all expansions and saw feral sorry state

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and i quitted all of them

tulip falcon
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before it changed

echo crescent
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after one month of playing

desert flume
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what leggy for feral pvp?

clear pulsar
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Feral's insane rn

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Absolutely better than dk

echo crescent
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m doing more damage and living longer as fdk than a feral

clear pulsar
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Hybrid heals overtuned af too

placid mirage
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The only thing dks do is eat my convoke with pet

echo crescent
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with lower ilvl too

clear pulsar
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Yeah thats a play issue

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Not a spec issue

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@placid mirage fax

echo crescent
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so many things changed in terms of pvp for feral eh

clear pulsar
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I went necrolord for a week cuz I had 3 games in a row where convoke dumped on pets

placid mirage
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I full mooned a dk pet twice yesterday

echo crescent
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i just die before doing anything

clear pulsar
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Earth elemental once, hunter pet next, dk pet after

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Just 4 bites into pets

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I couldnt take it anymore

placid mirage
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Yummy rocks

clear pulsar
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Had to reroll

placid mirage
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I'll never give up convoke

echo crescent
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bleeds not doing enough damage

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got 25% mastery

placid mirage
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I mean I see plenty of high rated convoke boomers so it's just me lol

oblique wharf
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Root the pet

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Ez

tribal kernel
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get gear

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got ~31% mastery and ~22% vers

placid mirage
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I just need like one arena session without playing against 75% ww disc

terse orbit
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what comps are good for feral in 3s?

placid mirage
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I always think the get gear argument is dumb because u have to get rating to get gear

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Like how am I gonna hit 31 mas 25 vers with half 184s

oblique wharf
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The get gear argument is more so that gear lets you play worse and not get as punished for it

placid mirage
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O does feral get more mastery per point

surreal loom
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You're either skilled enough to overcome lack of gear, or geared enough to overcome lack of skill (BfA forging/corruption etc.); if you have both you top ladder

placid mirage
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Cause 30% mastery on boom you need like 650 I think

tribal kernel
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feral

placid mirage
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Or more

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Mb

tribal kernel
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it easier to get one shot by a rogue if you have 22k hp

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and the guy to whom i've replied was complaining earlier that he was dying too easily

turbid hornet
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Boat or life of circle legendary for pvp?

tribal kernel
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dreambinder

placid mirage
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I was gonna get dreambinder but realized I have no boots because I never took any

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Rip

tribal kernel
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damn man

placid mirage
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I guess I could use 184s

tribal kernel
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i'm still farming mists

placid mirage
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Changeling? xd

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I have to spend a lot of time in arena cuz I'm bad

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I just want 1800 for 220s

tribal kernel
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haha

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i thought you were going to say

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you want 1800 for transmong

placid mirage
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No I'm transmog noob

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I got to 1775 3x

oblique wharf
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Leather elite set 🤢

placid mirage
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Just gotta play smarter rip

oblique wharf
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1800 is much harder now than first few weeks, both due to dampening changes and gear diff

placid mirage
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Feelsbadman

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I thought it would get easier

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As people rank up

tribal kernel
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dampening makes games last longer

oblique wharf
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It will over time

placid mirage
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I play double dps

tribal kernel
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rip

placid mirage
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Boom/ret

echo crescent
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lol u need a good healer baby sit feral unlike other class

oblique wharf
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Yeh that comp aint great

tribal kernel
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aren't disc/ feral ; resto sham / boom best ?

placid mirage
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Probably not ideal but my.partner is really chill

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Also I have performance anxiety about being the only dps lmao

oblique wharf
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Just a game

placid mirage
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Ya

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I had some success with Boom/sub

echo crescent
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well the necro thing just get dispelled no?

tribal kernel
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well boomkin dots just get dispelled

clear pulsar
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It was pretty meh

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We went positive in wins but just felt unimpactful

lime light
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please dont listen to @clear pulsar he is multi ape

clear pulsar
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Damage meters looked fine like

tropic panther
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so is helm the best spot for feral legendary?

clear pulsar
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Overall dam with LI Circle Necro was good. Just long games. I wouldnt recommend.

oblique wharf
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Play with an aff lock and be a sub optimal version of shadow play

stray sigil
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stop face

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stop

clear pulsar
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I literally said I dont recommend wtf

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Bro im gonna punch your throat

dusty needle
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imagine not playing owlplay right now

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its so strong right now

stray sigil
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no stop face

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for tyhe loveof all that is good

tropic panther
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playing jungle cleave

tribal kernel
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^^

tropic panther
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just need to know which slot to make legendary in, looks like everyone is going helm

tribal kernel
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ye

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helm

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vers mastery

dusty needle
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imagine playing feral lul

tropic panther
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if my buddies are hunter priest

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why the fuck would i go boomkin

dusty needle
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because is more fun and you can actually play wow on it

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feral is hot garbage in everything besides arena

tropic panther
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all i do on this char is arena

hollow junco
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who cares how bad or not feral is the mans playing feral

stray sigil
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what the fuck are you even saying

clear pulsar
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Youre completely out of ur mind

tropic panther
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and guardian druid is BiS for torghast lol

clear pulsar
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Lmao

oblique wharf
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Isnt feral top dps in raid rn

stray sigil
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another r word coming in here spewing nonsense

clear pulsar
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Yeah an absolute ape

tropic panther
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owl form more like ape form

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amirite

clear pulsar
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Sounds like someone who gave feral a try, didn't do jack, and now thinks the spec sucks

dusty needle
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i have not played feral once

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the spec is wheelchair in pve

tribal kernel
dusty needle
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because even if it does damage its still not ranged

hollow junco
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then why even respond

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he's talking about feral

clear pulsar
tribal kernel
thin flame
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As feral, should I be stacking mastery or crit now?

tribal kernel
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vers mastery

inner yarrow
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With RBG, is it the same as arena regarding the rating required to upgrade pvp gear? E.g. 1400 or 1600.

thin flame
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Sweet cheers

hollow junco
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ya same ratings

inner yarrow
stone nest
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This dude is either baiting or can’t do mechanics if he’s melee. But that’s for a pve channel

past relic
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Best 2s and 3s comps for NF balance druid?

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For 1800–>2100

oblique wharf
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Probably owlplay, WW boomkin

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For 3s

tribal kernel
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according to skillcapped for 2s it's resto sham boomkin

past relic
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Is that better than a prot pally with forgotten queen or holy pally with concentration aura mastery?

tribal kernel
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idk about 3s, but supatease made a few vids on 3s if you're interested

oblique wharf
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I played with hpal today, felt pretty good in 2s

tribal kernel
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WW is super strong so jexen is probably right

oblique wharf
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I think rsham would be better

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I kinda hate not having a purge on the team with this meta

past relic
oblique wharf
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Dog shit, like 1750

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I rerolled boomy so my gear is a bit yikes

past relic
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Yeah I’m looking at the 1800–>2100 climb

clear pulsar
past relic
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In 3s or 2s

oblique wharf
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Felt good though, but I would recommend rsham

clear pulsar
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Shit doesn't just suddenly stop working or being good

oblique wharf
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For 2s

clear pulsar
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From 1750 to 1800

oblique wharf
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Yeh exactly ^

clear pulsar
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Boomie hpal or prot will probably be easier to pick up cuz rsham's strength or synergy is the cross CC potential

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Like rsham can do a lot to help you get convoke off too

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But it's like, getting Hex off, cap stun follow up on root beam, etc

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Grounding totem

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All those things

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Rsham/hpal/protpal/sub rogue

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Are what I've seen personally in 2s

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With boomie

acoustic nebula
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He's trying to get bop and Convoke not do all that other stuff

past relic
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How about for 3s comps

oblique wharf
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Owlplay, boomy WW

past relic
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With what third? Pally?

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Or shaman

clear pulsar
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Rsham/hpal

oblique wharf
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Hpal/rsham

past relic
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Yeah ok

clear pulsar
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Your best shot at climbing hsa a lot more to do with getting consistent partners and improving with them, developing some level of synergy, regardless of comp

oblique wharf
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Yeah especially with this fast meta

clear pulsar
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Playing ww boomie hpal or ele boomie disc like, none of that will make much of a difference if you're just cycling thru LFG partners all weekend

oblique wharf
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Gotta have good synergy

clear pulsar
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Player > spec

tawdry egret
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hey guys, im currently moonkin main spec and want try to resto in arena, is it still viable with night fae?

clear pulsar
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Well boomie is like top 2 caster in the game rn, while resto is not a top 3 healer so to speak

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Resto is 'viable' to any rating you want to achieve but it's definitely gonna be harder

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Especially if you aren't a healer main

tropic panther
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anyone have a maro for shadowmeld rake that works for the stun that you can spam

tawdry egret
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boomie is rated #2 in arena?

forest moss
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what's a good cov for moonkin for arena? leveling my ally drood

clear pulsar
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'Rated' bro there is no objective measure of like how 'viable' specs are ok?

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Play what you like

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Boomie's very strong rn

dusty sphinx
clear pulsar
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Up there with spriest and fire mage for the best casters

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Depends on comp

forest moss
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rn I'm kyrian for the phial etc. I enjoy wpvp with my buddies 😄

clear pulsar
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Grind away

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You'll never get better if you don't start bad

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Etc etc

dusty sphinx
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Yeah, that's pretty much how we're rolling :P

ebon vortex
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anyone know a good dps to pair with rdruid rn?

trail moth
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when to use brutal slash vs shred?

tribal kernel
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when berserk is not active

clear pulsar
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When brutal slash isnt gonna break CC also

clear pulsar
ebon vortex
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kinda expected that lol

clear pulsar
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Mage good too

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Maybe aff lock!?

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Hunter's pretty good, particularly survival

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But survival has to be somewhat competent of a player

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Unlike arms and windwalker

ebon vortex
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im playing with affli rn

terse orbit
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how to i play against monk as feral

ebon vortex
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feels like we just constantly get outhealed, games we win go to like 50% damp

clear pulsar
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You could probably be more aggro than you're playing then, but yes that's how lock games go

ebon vortex
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like against pala and arms we can just kite them to death for the most part but for monk and rogue i kinda feel helpless

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those are our biggest problems rn and it feels like we only ran into monk and rouge today lmfao

tawdry hemlock
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Does anyone who uses VuhDo know how to have germination show up on frames or if that's even possible? Or if it's not, how to have the second rejuv show up? I tried adding both to a bouquet and tested it with no other hot up that would go into that slot. Tried adding it to a separate spot all of it's own (germ didnt show up and my first rejuv just showed up twice). I also tried adding both to debuffs just to see and nada. I know I was able to see this when I used Healbot.

ebon vortex
unborn notch
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what do you guys do against WW Monks as a Feral in 2's

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i try and bear their fists or use wild charge in travel form

echo crescent
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one fists makes u go full hp to 0

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that is a very good skilled monk

placid mirage
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if u hit a macro that casts a channeled spell multiple times does it cancel the spell too

deft locust
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Which is better for all around best damage eye of fearful symetry or apex predator ? For feral pvp

clear pulsar
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Yeah ww is rough times

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Definitely better if you can wild charge their healer or cast form wild charge your healer

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On fists of fury

echo crescent
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I want my good old feral back

clear pulsar
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But it's like, there are good and bad matchups, such is life

echo crescent
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😭

clear pulsar
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WW has crazy uptime

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Feral's pretty good

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It's just all bite instead of all rot

deft locust
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Any idea on legendary?

echo crescent
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Doesn't work with kite tool kits of feral

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Lol

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U just keep running 😅

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Oh shoot it's pally fun

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Oh no a Rouge run

deft locust
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Which is better for all around best damage eye of fearful symetry or apex predator ? For feral pvp

echo crescent
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Besides running n mobility

clear pulsar
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It works perfectly

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You have 3 diff stuns

echo crescent
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Just play something else pork

clear pulsar
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Cyclone, roots, hibernate for druids/shamans/hutner pets

pliant siren
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HOW trolling is it to nto be running 2 pvp trinkets in 3s arena

clear pulsar
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Don't listen to Jony

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He's some old dude living in the past and refusing to acknowledge he's playing bad instead calls the spec bad as a copout

deft locust
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Ok only pve I would do is torghast so I think symmetry will work thank you Moon

clear pulsar
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Symmetry's pretty good in Berserk, you use TF at 5 CP and do 3 bites in a row

vague mural
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what order should i buy gear from the conquest vendor for feral? (just dinged my feral last night so not sure)

clear pulsar
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Buy weapon

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If you just dinged you can catch up on full conquest and buy weapon this week already

vague mural
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gotcha, wasn't sure how well weapon scaling was for feral, i know on most melee its best

clear pulsar
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It's big, feral scales with weapon just like all other melees now

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I imagine it was different in the past since so many people ask about it

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Weapon dps is your best stat

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It's worth ~6 times agility basically

vague mural
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damn

deft locust
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Does it matter using polearm or staff

clear pulsar
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No, as long as it's an agi weapon

deft locust
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K ty

clear pulsar
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Apex drops from Torghast too tho btw

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It's ok, and definitely better in pve, but for arena Symmetry is nice af

tawdry hemlock
main wave
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Best affinity for feral pvp?

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(I'm assuming they all have their uses. So I'll rephrase: most popular)

cloud nest
main wave
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Roger. I was just considering doing balance for typhoon, but def love having regen and incap

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And the fewer buttons

hasty dome
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unless balance affinity magically gave you the ability to bite from 40 yards away, stick to bear or resto

clear pulsar
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If you want balance aff just for yphoon

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You're much better off taking resto aff for vortex

pallid coral
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@tulip falcon if it makes you feel better we took some more points off of barry

tulip falcon
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lmao

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same team?

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@pallid coral

pallid coral
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few changes

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had a few very scuffed characters in

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but same healers + wikisneaks

tulip falcon
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yea i dont really get it, he sometimes forms teams where we win at 2.8 and other days we lose at like 2.3 lol

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by inviting randos

pallid coral
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rofl

tulip falcon
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theres usually 1 or 2 boosts in the group

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which is fine

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people pay 1.5-2mil for 1.8k 🙄

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i just cba on days like these where they just inv whoever

pallid coral
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rofl

leaden cipher
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whats the recommended balance legendary for arenas?

tight ferry
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@leaden cipher I've heard highend pvpers are using dreamweaver, not 100% sure tho

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i'm sure boat will do fine

leaden cipher
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ye sweet

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ty

vast vapor
#

boat doesnt feel rly good imo because crit sucks

stray sigil
#

wait

#

ppl pay 10m for 2.1 ???

#

????????????

#

i been doing it for free bro

#

wtf...

tardy hare
stray sigil
alpine sorrel
stray sigil
#

feral

alpine sorrel
#

legendary?

#

2 combo points?

stray sigil
#

ya

alpine sorrel
#

do you have regular teammate?

clear pulsar
#

I can pay you 10 to play with me @stray sigil

stray sigil
#

i do have 3s partners yes

clear pulsar
#

10k

stray sigil
#

10k a game

#

thats good

tardy hare
clear pulsar
#

10k a month

stray sigil
#

ah fuck rbgs

#

nono 10k a game

alpine sorrel
#

guys how to farm golds?

#

can someone tell me?

stray sigil
#

pheonix ?

tardy hare
#

Xd

stray sigil
#

BRO

#

1500

#

IS LIKE 500K

#

LMKFAO

#

WTF

#

?????????????????????

#

HOW DO I SIGN UP

#

SIGN ME UP

#

RIGHT NOW

clear pulsar
#

Yeah I'm joining that shit

stray sigil
#

wtf bro 1500 is like 10mins of q

#

thats insane

clear pulsar
#

Bout to carry pve andies to challenger fo sho

alpine sorrel
stray sigil
#

65k per 100 cr

#

holy fuck

#

im nf atm

#

cuz i cba being a kyrian simp

obtuse ice
#

?

#

@stray sigil

stray sigil
#

@obtuse ice

obtuse ice
#

What

#

Do I read

#

From u

stray sigil
#

IM SORRY BRO

#

OBVIOUSLY NOT U

tardy hare
obtuse ice
#

How

#

Disappointed

stray sigil
#

BRO

#

kyrian is just so boring

tardy hare
drifting junco
#

Night fae cocoon is op as fuck in arena -.- Why on earth do they allow it in there...

stray sigil
#

cocoon is trash unless u play with an hpal

#

then its broken

#

remove htat

#

QUICK

#

NOBODY MUYST KNOW

obtuse ice
#

U fkin

stray sigil
#

FAst

#

REMOVE IT

obtuse ice
#

Trash bin

stray sigil
#

bro no

#

dont do me like that

obtuse ice
#

I hope

#

Draven will spank u

stray sigil
#

i just cant remember to phial and buff every game

obtuse ice
#

Koukis..

stray sigil
#

i couldnt remember to bring koukis in arenas..

obtuse ice
#

More like koukis forgettibg to bring u in arena

#

Chad koukis

stray sigil
#

kinda true

obtuse ice
#

😔 👍

rigid linden
#

absolute joke prices

#

ROFL

hasty dome
#

don't want to hear a single pvper cry about raider.io again after the BS I'm dealing with getting RBG group lol

rigid linden
#

feel like most ppl who cry about raider io are pve'ers

#

just shitty ones

#

LOL

pulsar copper
#

is the general rule of thumb just to bite at 5 then two x4 bites

fading gazelle
#

lol pugging rbgs is fucking miserable

stray sigil
#

@pulsar copper u can do the 4 or just weave in a brs and do 5s

#

upside of weaving of brs is u dont have to casino on if ur next bite will happen or not

#

cuz if u bite at 4 theres a chance u wont get 2 cp from zerk so ud be stuck wiht 2

hasty dome
#

popular pvp talents for boomy RBGs?

#

Moonkin aura by default i assume

pulsar copper
#

@stray sigil Brs?

stray sigil
#

brutal slash

weak hinge
#

How hard is feral currently in pvp?

pulsar copper
#

oh yeah that makes sense

hasty dome
#

makes sense, thanks @vestal citrus

obtuse ice
#

Feral is ez

weak hinge
#

Is it? Because I hate playing boomie in 2s

#

It’s just annoying being sat on 24/7 by a warrior

hasty dome
#

that's not fun in any spec

weak hinge
#

Yeah so I think I’ll make the switch to feral.

woeful crypt
#

What leggos are good for boomie arenas apart from Boat

woeful crypt
#

As yes, I apologize for not checking that first

#

Thank you

forest kite
#

Eye symmetry is a must have for pvp or is Apex just equal?

buoyant summit
#

does convoke hit someone who is stunned

#

bet

#

wb rooted

#

hmm ok thanks

#

any cc it doesnt right

devout frost
queen copper
#

Generally ccs that can be broken it won’t hit

devout frost
#

ye but clone is the only exception

#

it will hit other immunities like bop to

forest kite
#

the biggest mistake i saw from boomy

#

is convoc rooting target in single target xDDD

#

doing 0 damage

#

how many time a boomy Root/beam me , i just sit in ,and they convoc ahahah

queen copper
#

Yep

#

It’s a feels bad. Normally surge it first to break

forest kite
#

so usually , in RBG , you wanna root/beam the most ppl , then convoc so it focus just few target and one shot it

devout frost
#

sounds like average NF player

forest kite
#

yeah also

#

especially when there is an unholy dk

#

right now i'm just torn between using boat or timeworn in rbg

#

i don't know , convoc still global ppl with timeworn and i feel " better " between convoc

#

y

#

actually

#

i didn't even think abut swap it

#

xD

#

thanks for that , i'm dumb

#

and glyph , as NF u're also using boat in 3s ?

#

i pushed 2K1 but in Kyrian with dreambinder

viral granite
#

There a resto pvp guide somewhere

forest kite
#

i don't raid , but i just swaped NF to carry as much as possible in RBG

lean sonnet
#

4

pliant siren
#

what do ppl mean when they say their xp is a number

clear pulsar
#

Their hgihest rating achievement

pliant siren
#

ty

devout frost
placid mirage
#

does boom go well with arms in 3s

#

WW hate boomers 😦

devout frost
#

boomkin prob one of the best classes to deal with ww though

placid mirage
#

I've felt a lot better in pvp after getting the regen conduit

#

Feels crazy compared to other ones

vast vapor
#

does it put you into bear form

placid mirage
#

dont think so

clear pulsar
#

No it procs in any form

tiny oar
#

Bless frenzy conduit

vast vapor
#

losing my 21% dmg from convoke monka

balmy sparrow
#

Why u losing it fam

tiny oar
#

Ye play dreamweaver n u get both

clear pulsar
#

U get both on niya too now

vast vapor
#

should prolly do the remaining renowns then

devout frost
#

imagine not having both until this week

#

smells like night fae

deep oriole
#

resto or guardian affinity for 2s with a ret paladin as a boomy?

devout frost
#

i default guard

deep oriole
forest kite
#

getting guardian 100% of the time just for the roar

tiny oar
devout frost
small storm
#

add me to the streamer list

#

i queued two games and lost both and got off 😎

edgy tide
#

Can anyone point me in the right direction for 2s as a feral? I'm literally terrible and seem to die instantly

small storm
#

sbt wc bear aff (or resto w 2x dps) bash sotf brs ff

devout frost
#

are you using defensives when enemy uses offensives

#

or just disrespecting

edgy tide
#

seems like I'm stunned or CCd the whole time

devout frost
#

u start the game in stealth

#

how do u get cc'd without getting defensives up when u have the targeting advantage

edgy tide
#

I told you I'm bad, I open up and then they switch to me and I'm dead instantly

devout frost
#

well so u know what the issue is

stone nest
#

If you are going to get stunned and don’t have a trinket. Try to not be in line of both enemy players.

devout frost
#

then why dont u fix it

edgy tide
#

I'm trying to practice more and get better, and ask people for tips

#

do you guys always trinket immedietly?

devout frost
#

if not trinketing means ur gonna die

edgy tide
#

with a hunter

tiny oar
devout frost
#

ofc its funny

solemn basin
#

if i dip below 1800

tiny oar
#

Ya this is how I transformed from a rat into a donkey 10k rogue rdruid 2s games start grinding buddy @edgy tide

solemn basin
#

can i still upgrade gear to 220?

#

odd

primal bane
#

best pvp leg for feral?

forest kite
#

tigers fury leggo

#

back to back to back bities

#

even though, in 2s, it's hard to sit that long on a target where that works out well.

stark plover
#

does anyone know if you can use the Legendary 'Natural Orders Will' as feral ? Its a guardian one that causes Barkskin to do ironfur and Frenzied regen, if in bear form when you start/end barkskin.

pliant siren
#

alright, so i was playing 3s today and my friend wasnt using 2x pvp trinkets

pliant siren
#

i told him he was trolling but he said quantum device is more burst

#

he plays a wildwalker monk

#

am i right or is he

pliant siren
#

whats that mean

devout frost
pliant siren
#

"that's cap"

devout frost
clear pulsar
#

The quantum device gives a large amount of a secondaory, but only sometimes

pliant siren
#

sorry im a boomer i dont understand your lingo

#

ya i know what it does

clear pulsar
#

It's a meme trinket

pliant siren
#

but i told him missing out on the set bonus was throwing

#

and he just told me i was wrong

clear pulsar
#

Badge + set bonus is easily worth more than the quantum device

stark plover
#

Thanks for answers, just curious, and playing world pvp or low rating area it might be fun to try out

clear pulsar
#

And half hte time it'll give your healer mana anyway

#

Or heal someone

#

Or anything

pliant siren
#

yeah

devout frost
#

member first days of season when subs were still running drest @clear pulsar

clear pulsar
#

I was running drest too

devout frost
#

discoosting

tiny oar
#

🥳

edgy shale
#

u can use a WA to track quantum to make sure u always get stats. does anyone know if it shares CD w/ the medallion if u use it to escape cc

clear pulsar
#

Getting vers puts my Bite 4387 tooltip,.
Using the Badge my bite goes to 4097, and taking the set bonus into account, it would go to 4383.

edgy shale
#

i believe the range is 40 yards so if u really want stats just run away lol

clear pulsar
#

So 203 quantum device is about the same burst as a 180 badge

#

Except on a 3 min cd

#

Instead of 1 min cd

edgy shale
#

it can also be a ~10k execute or get u outta cc. its prob not good in arena, but its def interesting lol

clear pulsar
#

Idk the only good way to use it would be to stack with relentless probably, then you're basically human

#

But it doesn't always break you out of cc either

edgy shale
#

if u use it while cc'd it will always break you out of cc im pretty sure. it isn't random, it just does x under y condition

clear pulsar
#

Maybe in pvp? I distinctly remember it 100% not breaking me out of a fear in Torghast

edgy shale
#

if your hp or close ally's hp is < 30%, then it heals. Inscrutable Quantum Device
if a healer near you is <20% mana, then it gives him mana. Inscrutable Quantum Device
if crowd controlled then it removes it. Inscrutable Quantum Device
if something related to being "in danger" then it spawns a device that grabs aggro. Inscrutable Quantum Device
if trinket can execute your target with x damage, it will. Inscrutable Quantum Device

clear pulsar
#

I can read wowhead comments too baby boo

edgy shale
#

maybe ur hp was also low?

clear pulsar
#

I have the trinket

#

I've used it

#

During cc

#

And it didn't break me out of it

edgy shale
#

im not telling u wat the trinket does lol, im posting it for reference

native igloo
#

For rbgs are boomies going boat or dreambinder?

raw panther
#

can you break corruption by shifting as druid

#

the corruption slow dot?

crude minnow
#

every fuckin rbg I get into the other boomys have like 40% starfall damage. jesus christ.

edgy shale
#

of course. don't you know damage dealt numbers are the most important thing?

loud wedge
#

I remove starfall in rbg

#

Dont wanna be a meme

crude minnow
#

"how are we losing, we destroyed them in damage"

edgy shale
#

"how are they healing this starfall "burst"'

#

i even used sunfire too!

loud wedge
#

If you face a team that just streight up wipe you in the chart bg, is there anyway to outplay?

#

The one where there spawns 3 charts in the middle

crude minnow
#

Any time anyone tries to get only boomys/spriest/lock the teams are always so bad. They think they win with full dots instead of actual kill pressure

edgy shale
#

that might be an actual strat if all the healers are disc priest and actually go oom

loud wedge
#

Thats a big if

#

And they have 7 capable dps on the other side

#

Try to snag carts basically?

#

But strat is to devide team into 3?

#

2 sec

#

Silvershard mines

#

Aah.. Thats were we failed hardest

#

Thanks dude

#

Yeah trying to learn as fast as possible so i can stop joining "first win of the day yolos"

#

Need to rebuild a group after each win

#

Saw you reccomend making your own group in the world of pvp group (given that ur the same glyph), but i dont know tacts yet so i think thats a bad idea

#

Website or discord?

oblique wharf
#

Here is link

#

xfJyBJC

loud wedge
#

Thanks guys

forest kite
#

So, for resto, Mmarkers is using Draught of Deep Focus for 2s

#

And I'm kinda liking the look of it

#

where can you buy water for arena?

loud wedge
#

Dosnt the one from oribos in keeper work?

buoyant verge
#

where can you buy water for arena?
@forest kite have to buy the water that doesn’t restore health

forest kite
#

tyty

wheat orbit
#

When doing rbg's and i need to go cap a base with a rogue. What's the best way to accomplish it? playing balance druid so i don't dr his stuns / blind etc

wheat orbit
#

mkay so they do the CC while i cap

loud wedge
#

Anyone here regularly make rbg groups for EU horde?

surreal loom
#

224 ilvl SPriest from Illidan in my 2k CR games, not fun to play against must say

tulip falcon
#

rogue can run shadowy duel also

#

ezmode

crude minnow
#

Ye had a limit WF hunter in my RBG last week and he was slapping. Gear is a hell of a drug

wind delta
#

Short question guys, ive seen some streamers using an addon that shows big def and ofcds at the enemy nameplate, someone has an idea what addon this is? They are not using plater, kui or something like this :/

normal comet
#

Might be FlyPlateBuffs

surreal loom
#

BigDebuffs is pretty common

#

pretty sure it does that

wind delta
#

Thy guys :3

edgy shale
#

2100 rating for 226 conduits, right?

fast vale
#

Is necro useless for feral/boom? And how is it for resto Pve?

Toying with swapping from NF to necro for resto arena.

loud wedge
#

2100 for everying max except weapon

dreamy loom
#

in this meta it's fairly useless and not great for raiding, okay in mythics

loud wedge
#

If you are not going for cutting edge covenant dosnt really matter

#

If you are late CE probly dont matter either

weak hinge
#

But people who are slow on CE can’t use anyone additionally holding them back by going for bad covenants... so pls stop with this „only wf needs best stuff“ bs ...

#

You need to pull additional weight in bad guilds by doing the dmg your assa rogues are not dealing

fast vale
#

I don’t raid

#

Mythic and pvp only

weak hinge
#

The only time I’d go for a suboptimal covenant is when content is cleared and I want to go for something else to push m plus or pvp

loud wedge
#

Dan poole, follow glyphs advice

#

And shaun, not everyone is as competative as you

weak hinge
#

Yeah sure @loud wedge when you’re not competitive just play whatever. I don’t want anyone to stop having fun haha. Just trying to argument against this „your choices don’t matter if you’re not a pro player“ thing going on.

loud wedge
#

After my understanding if someone asks about covenant reletad questions, their goal is to have fun, not be the best they can be

fast vale
#

👍🏼👍🏼

loud wedge
#

If they were, they would have researched prior and had a game plan since august

#

Where we might be wrong is it only matters for pros... It only matters for tryhards

weak hinge
#

Yeah hehe

#

True

queen drift
#

What soulbind do you want to use as boomie?

#

Niya ?

loud wedge
#

Pretty sure thats in the pins mate

queen drift
#

Nope

#

Still it was useful to read the pin again

ember temple
#

I bought a weapon from honor, what is max item lvl it can get to?

queen drift
#

Yeah Niya seems stronger

#

Nah I hate the pod lmao

#

Ik but I still hate the pod haha

#

but yes triple endurance is dope

ember temple
#

do i need to buy conqueat weopon to upgrade it above 200?
or can i upgrade my weapon with honor and then upgrade it to conquest? or how does it work?

dense oxide
#

is night fea really that bad for pvp resto

patent dove
#

No it‘s not

#

It‘s behind necro lord but it can work

coral sandal
#

should i be spending my conquest on a weapon asap? as feral

tardy hare
#

Yes

jade silo
#

What you suggest are the Good/Easy Combs for Balance in 3v3? Planning to Play with a Affl Lock.

forest kite
#

That could of been spend on other parts and more stats in general

coral sandal
#

maybe i just spend conq on gear and pray for wep from hc nathria or chest

ember temple
#

or pve one ..

#

is there more stam or something on pvp gear!?? or can I just use pve gear with vers on?

forest kite
#

Slowly placing first serious steps in rated battlegrounds. What add on should I use to quickly switch targets to follow tc etc? Would be great if I could cc this way too (maybe working a little bit like healbot, but using cc instead of healing

#

Will try it for sure

ember temple
#

Ok a few newb questions ! havent played pvp for many years..
can i get all gear in 2v2? or do i still need to 3v3 for that?

forest kite
#

You don't get directly from arenas now

#

You earn conquest (doesn't matter is it 2s,3s or rBG) and honor and then spend it on buying gear

ember temple
#

yeah , but i need above 1400 to buy some gear... and back in the days i did 2300 to get shoulders in 3v3

forest kite
#

You don't need rating for buying, need it for upgrading

#

No rating for 200 ilv, 1400 for 207 ilv, 1600 for 213 ilv and so on

#

Are the pvp conduits upgradable with rating?

fallow minnow
#

what bracket am I able to upgrade?

fallow minnow
#

just did 3s for like 20mins and got to 1400

#

oh, 207

#

thanks

forest kite
#

So theres only two ranks of conduits or are they the same as gear?

safe heart
#

im kinda in the same boat, my alliance druid has a 197 vers/mastery weapon from spires but i will have enough conquest to get the 207 pvp weapon this week, but could also turn that into like 2 other 207 armor pieces instead

#

feel like its better to just grab the weapon and not worry about my luck at the end of the week

#

esp if i can get to 1600 this week

hollow hare
#

Anyone playing around with hpala/feral?

tulip falcon
#

i guess we got those fast paced games that blizzcon players wanted 😆

loud wedge
#

Since different covenants got different stats on pvp gear, you think its worth for rank 1 players to swap covenants to buy gear for upgrade?

empty sentinel
#

you cant upgrade the covenant weapon after changing

#

just heads up what i know

loud wedge
#

Fair enough, seems like a good point

molten crown
#

question; The endurance conduit that casts Frenzied Regen once a minute when we drop below 40%. Do we need to be in bear form for it to activate? Regular FR cancels if we shift out of bear

green stump
#

No, it'll proc and work in any form

molten crown
#

ahh nice, thats really strong. Thank you

forest kite
#

Whats a good 3s comp for boomy? 😄

golden barn
#

Warrior rogue warlock sp ele mage ww work fine

#

Hpal or shaman healer

echo crescent
#

i won more as bear than feral LOL

#

bear did top damage in team 😮

forest kite
#

I heard something that pve trinkets are nerfed in pvp, is it true?

#

Are there any more details about it?

forest kite
#

I have so much problems as moonkin with all the melee cleave around right now at 1750-1800 rating

topaz moss
#

Is resto Druid/ Ret pala alright for lower ratings?

#

Or will I have better luck as Boomy?

echo crescent
#

its boom boom pow

#

lol

#

boom boom chicky chicky

errant crystal
#

do you guys think resto could be good with pala and warrior?

lime light
#

Yes why not

#

Vortex spear and big dam

#

Just your mana might be shit

primal bane
#

is nature's balance really beating warrior of elune for pvp

unique cairn
#

@tulip falcon looks like fun pvp that 😛 atleast it ends fast 😛

errant crystal
#

do you guys think resto will be better in pvp once the meta slows down?

tight ferry
#

incase you guys were wondering

#

rbgs with just boomkin and hunters as dps was a mistake

low cypress
#

should of went pure boomkin.

lone quarry
#

on what base do i want the starsurge legendary chest or ring?

#

thnaks

lime light
#

@vestal citrus i need a rbg build for boomkin to carry all egirls. Can u help bro

restive token
#

hi guys, just a quick question. im not very experienced with moonkin in pvp. im planning to do only random BGs and currently i am on ilvl 161...would you recommend to use every upgrade that i can find rtegardless of the stats or would you just stick to vers/haste? thanks

echo crescent
#

ilvl>anything

#

just try getting vers in it

restive token
#

okay so just use what i find? save the conquest/honor and upgrader then everything?

echo crescent
#

n the 2 trinket vers

restive token
#

got that already : ) thats my issue...most of my upgrades dont have vers at all...

#

thats why i am hesitating

tight ferry
#

@low cypress ur right. The hunters were our weakness

small storm
#

in arena i use gladius as opponent frames but i would like to have a larger cast bar attached to or next to each opponent

#

do i need to use actual opponent frames with elvui and increase a cast bar? or can it be directly done thru gladius

stray sigil
#

u can do that with sarena

lime light
#

kid

#

dont talk

stray sigil
#

kid

#

dont ever speak to me

#

only grown ups

tiny oar
#

kid kid kid

stray sigil
lime light
#

both kids

#

new year soon

#

means new me

#

ofc

#

i will be nice

#

to everyone

#

every day

tight ferry
#

best stats for double boomkin/double pally?

onyx tide
#

is there anyway to get convoke to actually cast on rooted ppl? xD

stray sigil
#

no

lime light
#

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watch and learn how op feral is pls @stray sigil

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thick minnow
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is tooltip for convoke bugged?

#

says 12 spells

#

thought it was reverted back to 16

dusty sphinx
#

12 for resto, 16 for everyone else

soft valley
#

Is there ever a situation as feral you would want to kindred empowerment an ally instead of lone empowerment?

thick minnow
#

wow. thanks blizzard

stable halo
#

Hi! one question, im trying to decide which gear to buy and which gear to try to get from dungeon, and looking at top feral druids in ladderboard i see different things, like they are going for versa>crit>mastery and buying different pieces... how should i decide what has more priority?

brave shuttle
#

They prob are just avoiding haste. I think only 1-2 options per slot so taking croit when possible otherwise mastery

runic anvil
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hi guys, any tips on how to play resto druid 2s vs resto shaman? I play with unholy DK and we struggle against any combo with resto shaman, he seems to peel off DK quite easily and keeps the summons away with earthgrab, but focusing the partner the shaman usually also deals quite a lot of damage with lava bursts, also note that we are pretty bad (around 1600)

brave shuttle
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I’m not much better but maybe look at playing more offensively too (cat form with bleeds and especially some nice maims and cc)

echo crescent
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druids are meme

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they are jack of all trades good at nothing

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been that way for long lol

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i hope more unpruning

modern flicker
echo crescent
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druids are always like b or a tier

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or worse

modern flicker
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Balance is incredibly strong rn, and feral is very good in the comps it always is

echo crescent
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not saying bad

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but any other class does it way better

modern flicker
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You gotta be pretty damn good at something to be as strong as balance is rn

echo crescent
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more defence and offence

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i wish master shapeshifter was baseline or a talent

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instead of heart of wild

small storm
tight ferry
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tips for dps monk and boomkin?

tiny oar
echo crescent
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idk why restro is outcasted on convoke

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lol

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only 12 for restro

proper gull
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Hey everyone, I'm making a feral druid as an alt with pvp on my mind. from what i've gathered, the two best choices are Night Fae / Kyrian. Any idea as to which is generally recommended?

stuck talon
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convoke go brrrr

lime light
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🙂

proper gull
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Sold lol

crisp cedar
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Blow their kick -> stun -> brrrrr -> dead

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Lol

spring scarab
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who's the multiglad in here that told me "just use your defensives, it's like any other arena season"

lime light
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put <>

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before and after link

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🙂

weak hinge
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whats the best pvp leggo for feral?

lime light
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symmetry

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yes

tidal bear
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Recommended Guardian Leggos for RBGs?

mental crypt
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have you any tips to deal with ww/heal or armheal as feral/heal?

lime light
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kite dont die

chrome panther
tiny oar
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Wow advanced tips ty @lime light

lime light
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UwU

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OwO

wind rock
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hey guys, what do i do against rogue mage as rdruid with warrior in 2s

placid mirage
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Incap roar the rogue opener

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If ur guardian aff

chrome panther
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your warrior dies in the time it takes you to shift

placid mirage
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Roar shifts u into bear

wind rock
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basically i stun rogue opener and then pop overgrowth and ironbark on the warrior and try to swiftmend, but hes just dead through this

chrome panther
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the mage kills u, not the rogue

wind rock
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what can i do instead? wait for the mage and stun him?

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or roar rogue and then charge to mage to bash?

chrome panther
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your warrior should be able to live rogue with dbts

placid mirage
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In my experience if your partner sit behind a pillar the mage will have to be pretty close to the rogue. I play double dps but prob 50%+ of the time I can hit both with roar

oblique wharf
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@wind rock Markers made a vid on it recently

drifting burrow
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switched from feral to balance recently and BOAT in bg's is super fun

fresh estuary
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@wind rock i saw a nice reddit post about warrior/healer vs rogue opener. I can send you the text in pm

hard estuary
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worth to buy the weapon or hope for it in my conq cap next few weeks?

forest kite
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do you guys prefer tauren for the horde racial in pvp for kitty cats?

lime light
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no

forest kite
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What then?

lime light
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tauren

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but u will be ugly

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so no

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dont do it

forest kite
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taurens are majestic creatures

lime light
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no u are wrong

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u dont know it yet

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but yes u are wrong

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so wrong

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please stop

merry stump
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Guys, im so sorry if this has been asked before, after mastery versa, whats the best seccond stat, cele or crit?

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for feral

heady ore
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i just got boat and literally being able to 3 shot people feels so satisfying

modest violet
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What’s boat

tight ferry
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@modest violet balance of all things

sinful nova
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Anyone know where I can get a boomy weak aura setup?

lime light
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hhmmm!!

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

dusty sphinx
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Have you tried checking wag.io and searching for balance? :P

lime light
ruby walrus
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If i LOS my convoke will it still do damage/heal?

patent cradle
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if it cant find targets it'll just heal/thrash

modest violet
trail moth
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when do I use maim?

hollow tendon
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I got the 1h weapon in vault week one. I bought the off hand with conquest. I'm able to upgrade my off hand to 213 with honor but not the 1 hander with honor. My cr is 1759 for rbgs right now. Any ideas why?

past relic
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does a warrior's spell reflect counter the entirety of convoke (counting it as 1 spell) or only 1 of the 16 casts? (balance)

plain cobalt
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For boomy is it worth using a 184 badge over a 200 quantum for the vers buff?

placid mirage
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Ya

dusty needle
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i can see it now

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% damage from spells from convoke the spirits reduced in pvp

placid mirage
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Feelsbadman

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% damage from spells from combust reduced in pvp

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Nerfing convoke really hurts the pvp-rp community because then boomers can't play a game of chicken with enemy interrupts

gray trellis
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@past relic It counters just the first spell, so if moonfire hits first it just counters moonfire.

pulsar copper
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wtb mindgames nerf

wet pivot
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Any tips for playing ret boomkin in 2s? Newer to boomy pvp and we seem to be doing alright but I'm not sure what the general strat is with this comp, are we just pressuring with pure dmg or just surviving until we can one shot with cds

stray sigil
lime light
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@past relic no, just one spell

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Like moonfire starsurge

acoustic nebula
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Can't wait for Tuesday, triple endurance conduit and a potency on Dreamweaver mmm

stone nest
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The pod is annoying tf out of me. I’m doing these great setups for convoke and getting a kill as resto but I cant kill shit outside of convoke and the pod just laughs at me

abstract falcon
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Karma

spring scarab
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what can double dps with a lock

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any class?

stone nest
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Sp is really good. Can UA the mind games

strong salmon
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what legendary is recommended for feral in arenas?

dusty needle
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only viable double dps are feral and rogue comps ngl

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any caster double dps is some hot garbage

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like rogue mage and feral hunter or hunter rogue are like the only good double dps comps

haughty compass
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Prot / Ret

dusty needle
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prot is a healer thats not double dps