lmao
#pvp
tulip falcon
only ddosing involving me is when i got ddosed for 3 days and lost hero on my 2nd druid in mopo
1 rating below cutoff
😢
pallid coral
what maps do you actually get to play feral on?
tulip falcon
silvershard/kotmogu/seeting shore usually
tulip falcon
i played feral entirely last season to 2.4ish when i came back for the latter half
which was nice
had some nutter french guy who actually liked inviting me as feral every map
clear pulsar
Axtin an rbger?
tulip falcon
yea
we've had some multi r1 people who've never touched arena before asking about playing
i mean
never touched rbg
pallid coral
It's a good way of capping honor for vault each week
tulip falcon
its a nice improvement from the 50+ minute BFA queues at the end of season
pallid coral
yeah
tulip falcon
also cos of the inflation its easy to get duelist/elite shit
pallid coral
fuck seething tho
pallid coral
dogshit bg
tulip falcon
fun times
did anyone ever experience strand of the ancients rbg
before it was removed
static trail
tulip falcon
makes seething shore look decent
static trail
i hated strand
tulip falcon
think it was only in rated for the first season of it
also the new deepwind is trash also
pallid coral
yeah fuck new deepwind
old deepwind was a sick bg
like it was actually interesting
tulip falcon
double dh sorta ruined it but other than that it was enjoyable
pallid coral
ab is shit
tulip falcon
eots is definitely under ab for me
tulip falcon
i probably hate it because im not a caster
pallid coral
probably lmao
tulip falcon
only base map i like is gilneas
pallid coral
Gilneas is def best base map
twin peaks and wsg are best 2 bgs tho
and then i like kotmogu and silvershard
and gilneas
then next tier is like eots
then ab
then deepwind and seeething
tulip falcon
kotmogu is always fun
pallid coral
kotmogu is actually just the most interesting strat bg
tulip falcon
everyone just does the same shit now tho
leave orbs at start, wipe team, pick orbs and kite around
tulip falcon
kotmogu is fun but also the most frustrating
some people give me an aneurysm playing that
flag maps are defo my top tho because i actually get to do shit
tulip falcon
i found the meme i mentioned earlier i still have it fml
dropped to 1 rating below cutoff
wonderful skype ddos times
was just trying to push 2.5 for a tabard on an alt which is now account-wide...
lilac belfry
do you think circle of life and death would be best for boomy in a primarily RBG focused build?
heady ore
how could you possibly hate kotmogu
thats my favorite bg
there's like 0 running around and you're always fighting
clear pulsar
It's a lot of running around
But also
The split rezes
People die in one graveyard and the rest of the team kites away
tulip falcon
split resses and kiting = kotmogu
clear pulsar
So easy to get divided
Idk
It's really just frustrating
I don't hate the map or the objective idea
lilac belfry
ive found lots of times in rbgs im just generating astral power to starfall then spam cyclones on healers
tulip falcon
meter padding 
clear pulsar
You should be top damage without padding with starfall anyway like
Boomie's insane
Unless there's a spriest god
Or something
thorny venture
I'll only starfall if I can hit everyone during incarn, but even then, I'd rather boat burst a healer
Or if I really need the casting while moving
clear pulsar
Unbind starfall pls
tulip falcon
lol
lilac belfry
so then are you going boat or timebinder?
heady ore
wym
tulip falcon
yea we faced a triple boomer who co-ordinated all their convokes and am perfectly
it was uh
interesting
thorny venture
I actually really disappoints me how few people are even aware the cd reset chests are there
heady ore
yea i mean the difference is me having 30.2k health with 10% vers or 29.88k health with 12% vers
tulip falcon
best thing i saw was when i was getting convoked as fc with stacks
warrior intervened me and he died instantly
clear pulsar
1-vers means the defensive portion
So uh
It's literally the same
And the vers one should be more dam with the trinket set bonus
thorny venture
I'm probably the only person who did pvp as balance with necrolord. 😄
clear pulsar
No
heady ore
necro boomy isnt the worst tbh
thorny venture
Everyone seems to be convoke
tiny oar
Sad necro boi :(
tulip falcon
well they play arena also so don't want nf just for rbg
heady ore
isnt kyrian just a flat 10% dmg increase
clear pulsar
Convoke's so weird where like, half the people underrate it saying it's too easy to stop at 'high rating' or wahtever that means, then the other half overrate it cuz it looks impressive when you dunk on 2 people's heads at the same time.
In arena tho there are also games where I play into idk arms ret rsham and the rsham can always just save trinket to stop my Convoke and it does nothing
tulip falcon
yea we do fine with kyrian boomies
its not the hardest thing in the world to stop convoke
in a teamfight
I wish convoke didnt exist
Just a horrible design
novel sky
same
thorny venture
I enjoy solar beaming other druids convoking
tulip falcon
Losing or winning because of 1 ability just shouldn't be a thing
thorny venture
Marksman rapid fire says hello
tulip falcon
legit been hit with like 2 starsurges for 30k crits before without even a chance to react
kick it but basically dead from the 0.5 sec cast they got off
other times they dont do a lot
clear pulsar
legit been hit with like 2 starsurges for 30k crits before without even a chance...
To be fair tho that can happen without Convoke too
I mean
You can legit dunk 5 surges in a row
And Kyrian's basically a 25% dmg buff that lines up with it
tulip falcon
the 16 stacks of redirected anima or w/e it is as well is pretty big
heady ore
can kyrian give you a free full moon tho xd
clear pulsar
Full Moon and Surge hit about just as hard
It just looks a bit more visually impactful
And makes you upset cuz of the big ass ball dunking on you
thorny venture
I get to have an insect spell as a druid, that's all I care about
Full moon does aoe
clear pulsar
Adaptive Swarm should explode for the damage it amplified over the duration when it bounces
thorny venture
Doing my Torghast as bear I love the full moon from moonfire ticks power
tulip falcon
boomies run niya soulbind right?
clear pulsar
Like 'amplifies by 20%, upon expiration, explodes for 50% of the total amplification it provided and jumps to a target alternating blah blah'
@tulip falcon I wouldn't run Niya in pvp right now cuz you can't take Potency + Endurance yet
Dreamweaver gives you Potency + 2 Endurance it's so nice
tulip falcon
ah was just looking because of the redirected anima thing which gave me like 13% mastery when i press convoke
clear pulsar
It's very good dam
thorny venture
You can do some stupid cheese with seed in flag maps
clear pulsar
Esp cuz boomie potencies don't do a lot at all but
Conflux + WHI > Mastery proc + WHI imo
tulip falcon
i feel like convoke without the redirected anima stacks wouldn't be nearly as bad
thorny venture
The potency that extends incarnation by 7 seconds feels nice
clear pulsar
If you are not scared at all of dying then Conflux + Mastery proc is insane dam
And you can kill 4 people in one Convoke
For sure
Yeah true
Gon be lit
tulip falcon
yuck
thorny venture
I'm just glad they let whi work for all specs despite saying it's a bear conduit
tepid spoke
yuck yoself
clear pulsar
Oh lawd
tulip falcon
ye i need a 2nd endurance conduit thats actually good
clear pulsar
WHI + Innate + Barkskin
tulip falcon
ye
clear pulsar
Or even the bear hp one
thorny venture
Soon we'll have Heirmir. I'm hyped
clear pulsar
Idk damage always scales harder than survivability with gear
thorny venture
They always let last season have crazy scaling and synergy
clear pulsar
Maybe this just means they don't have to throw in 20% stamina buffs in their borrowed power system
Like they did eveyr season of BFA
tulip falcon
lmao
thorny venture
There could be second legendaries by then too
clear pulsar
Or Legion for that matter
Double legendary would be so cooked for a few specs
Fire would be absolutely nuts
thorny venture
Boat and dreambinder, woo
clear pulsar
Sub rogue
tulip falcon
it would fuck the balance pretty hard
clear pulsar
Would be absurd
tulip falcon
some specs only have like 1 good legendary
clear pulsar
Yeah with the potency conduit
And then you play solstice
Circle + Draught Necrolord dream!????
frosty shard
Does anyone have a macro for a mouse over/self/focus ? for my thorns?
thorny venture
Alt key and your thorns hotkey
tulip falcon
imagine if they finally tame the damage levels in sl then release double legos
see it happening
thorny venture
Thinking they truly care about pvp. They'll just be excited so many pve people are doing it for gear
tulip falcon
torghast isnt going to be ditched
they will give us a reason to farm that shit the entire expac
aka 2 legendaries
throw in some new lego powers too
thorny venture
We'll be upgrading legendaries every patch too
And you know soul ash will be turned into silver every season
So excited for this reset. 4 chances at a 220 weapon and 1 at 223
languid storm
any high rated Boomys here?
primal bane
empty sentinel
getting into lunar eclipse can be hard after the first 2, if they keep stopping your wrath
empty sentinel
some classes like rogue and shaman have so many stops you just lose pressure and die if you keep re trying
earnest hedge
Is the oath of the elder druid legendary insane for wpvp or am I misunderstanding what it does?
clear pulsar
It's a good damage option for resto
In open world you'd probably proc it in times you don't want or need but
broken cobalt
Just one Shot Them so you dont need to enter 3x eclipse 
untold spear
Does anyone run guardian in rbgs? If so how's it feeling? (pros and cons)
earnest hedge
@clear pulsar yeah that 2nd part i didn't consider
rancid pebble
how's resto sham/feral this expac?, tried running with my friend as resto druid/ele but with the melee trains and burst as high as it is we are having a hard time
near tapir
What's bis legendary for resto druid 2v2-3v3? :)
clear pulsar
Rsham feral likely better than rdru ele if you're both comfortable in the respective specs @rancid pebble
But I wouldn't expect much of a shift in rating if your shaman isn't a better healer than you
I said htat the other way around
loud wedge
Maybe feral ele is something they can try?
clear pulsar
No chance
The only double dps that has a chance of climbing are rogue mage or something with a ret I think
What I was trying to say is that how good/comfortable you are at the spec you're playing is more relevant than how good the combo is
loud wedge
When you say climbing, what rating do you have in mind? 2,2k+?
clear pulsar
What's bis legendary for resto druid 2v2-3v3? :)
Verdant Infusion. Some people have crafted some meme shit like Oath but Verdant Infusion is bis.
Well, climbing from where you would be with a healer instead
loud wedge
Fair enough. So me playing boomie who got a priest friend who heavly favors shadow, should go resto for 2s?
And just meme around with convoke
clear pulsar
Idk bro it depends on how good you are at healing. Healing is very different from dps in pvp.
Spriest resto is decidedly better than playing spriest boomie
loud wedge
Was about 1800 last season bfa with 0 corruption, if that means anything
clear pulsar
I think spriest boomie sounds ok, but with just how fast the game is, you'll hit a wall as that sooner than you will as spriest resto
loud wedge
Cool, thanks for all the tips. Time to pracc resto then
clear pulsar
I really like playing double dps 2s sometimes, it's more entertaining than 7 min games of feral disc v arms hpal
But if you don't have a ret paladin you'll just hit a hard wall once you start facing teams that doesn't throw away every cd in 20 seconds.
loud wedge
Yeah thats the main reason im playing abit of boomie in 2s
10 sec games > 10 minutes ones
clear pulsar
Cuz for instance, arms hpal, it's boring long games, but there's no fucking way you beat arms hpal that know what their buttons do as boomie spriest
If you're winning off of Convoke, you can win that without a 2nd dps anyway, so long as the healer helps you with cross CC to get trinkets early
loud wedge
Would you reccomend boombox or cat as the affinity though?
clear pulsar
Cat for damage
Balance probably ok vs mage to avoid polys
But only mage healer
Not rogue mage
clear pulsar
Yeah proabbly
The gist of it is get enemy dps out of line of sight of their healer without trinket, Maim into Convoke
Ofc not that simple if they have cds that break stun
Like immunities, IBF, etc
loud wedge
Yeah, pos and cd's are intricite, but i believe i have the fundamentals covered
wind rock
Which legendary should I use in 2s when I'm mostly resto but playing guardian affinity. Was playing circle with feral affinity but I feel like I'm not experienced enough I always get rekt when I try to burst as kitty
clear pulsar
Verdant Infusion
loud wedge
Need to really chose your moments Vs some classes
errant crystal
hows the state of resto and feral in arenas atm?
near tapir
Verdant Infusion. Some people have crafted some meme shit like Oath but Verdant ...
Thanks
Resto is fine.
I play 2v2 with monk, doublelifebloom leg
clear pulsar
Resto's ok, 3s is rough if you aren't playing double caster, but resto's ok
Feral's in a pretty good spot rn
near tapir
RMD is fine tho
errant crystal
hows resto in 2s?
clear pulsar
Shouldn't get nerfed, but a good spec
clear pulsar
I play 2v2 with monk, doublelifebloom leg
Verdant Infusion is soooo nice bro
Extend CW, extend Adaptive Swarm if you're Necro
Extend SOTF Rejuv if you throw that out
near tapir
I guess so. After 2-3 weeks I will have it lvl 210+
clear pulsar
Overgrowth into Swiftmend on cd and that's all the globals you need to keep someone up
Resto's ok. It's not the best healer in the game, but if you're good you'll do good.
drifting flame
I'm making my first legendary for feral, what do you guys think is better Circle of Life and Death or Apex Predator? Circle seems like it would be more consistent then Apex but of course I haven't got to try either 🤔
near tapir
2 Combo points legendary
clear pulsar
Circle is kinda ass in pvp unless you're playing Necrolord and Moonfire talent, which in itself is kinda ass too.
Apex is like Iron Jaws, some games you go a full minute, maybe 2 without procing it
drifting flame
My reason for picking between those two is that I also raid so I'm trying to pick one that would be good for both
clear pulsar
You don't have to build only 1
drifting flame
I know but since we are time gated with soul ash I only have enough to make one right now
loud wedge
Wont be a problem for a Long time.. Make one that fits ur main aspect of the game
clear pulsar
Circle is near useless in pvp
errant crystal
what cov would you go if you want to play both resto and feral in arena?
shell shore
Resto druid 2s and 3s as night fae, verdant infusion still best? I'm considering oath to play more aggro
clear pulsar
what cov would you go if you want to play both resto and feral in arena?
Anything that isn't Venthyr will be fine. You probably won't see any Kyrian Resto or Necrolord Feral, but a lot of Kyrian Feral and Necrolord Resto. Night Fae is gimmicky but it's good, and you'll see Night Fae Resto as well as Feral.
clear pulsar
I know but since we are time gated with soul ash I only have enough to make one ...
190 to 210 in my patchwerk sim is legit a 20 dps difference. It's better imo if you build one for each and go upgrading both slowly than making one for all content.
loud wedge
^ i second this tbh
lime light
But big stam
spring scarab
regret going resto. easily my least favorite healing season, and i was here for a lot of the bad times
split fern
feral feels very dependent on convoke vs healer/dps in twos
might just be my skill level though
clear pulsar
Restos don't even go Night Fae
Nevermind I'm illiterate
Ferals don't even go Night Fae
errant crystal
whats the best cov for feral?
clear pulsar
Kyrian / Night Fae's ok too
errant crystal
oh ok on icy veins it was necro for feral
clear pulsar
Icy-veins is not the source you want for pvp info
errant crystal
what are better sources?
loud wedge
Am i Reading wrong or is rank 1 2v2 in EU a vengence dh?
clear pulsar
The written guides in wowhead are better @errant crystal
Or skill-capped
They have youtube videos, also a site where you can pay a 5$ sub with more in-depth breakdowns
errant crystal
i just checked the wow ranking and it out of the 3 ferals i found 2 are kyrian 1 is necro
@clear pulsar aight will check those tyvm
clear pulsar
No one is playing feral necro bro
The necro druid you checked is 100% a resto druid that logged out in feral spec
loud wedge
Where do you check the ladder?
clear pulsar
In the wow site
clear pulsar
That's tren, you can ask him on stream
I've never seen him play veng in arena
Most likely just was doing keys before logging out
Trenacetatetv
clear pulsar
Or RBGs idk
loud wedge
He plays with resto druid?
Damn.. Arena is dominated hard by holy pal and disc healers both in 2v2 and 3v3...
loud wedge
Guess resto druid isnt the huge beast it once was
mossy patio
Am I making a mistake dropping Necro for Night Fae on my balance druid? Plan to mainly pvp on him
loud wedge
Fuck it, time to get cancer in rbg this season
dire pulsar
Is it better to buy and upgrade pvp items to 184, or just to use higher ilvl 200+ pve? I have stacked 15k honor and have no idea should i spend them before renown unlock.
I have both pvp trinkets at 200
loud wedge
Conduits?
dire pulsar
Have them at ilvl 200 also
rapid bobcat
has anybody else gone against 3 boomies who 3 2 1 convoke in 3s
errant crystal
how do ferals usually scale into later stages of expansions?
tardy hare
🧐
errant crystal
ah no thats not what i meant
usually what i was told by friends is that some classes start scaling better the longer the expo goes
i think warlock was one of the examples for that
lost bloom
Feral dmg is by bleeds so the real question is how does opposing Hp stack .. precious expos your health went up quite a bit .. because of the lvl squish and how things are condensed I don’t think it’s going to go up as much so we might be ok
tepid spoke
like
how do i get a ww monk
off my fucking dick
GOD
Dash, roar, roots, clones, vortex
hes on me 100% uptime
wtf is that class
clear pulsar
Cuz the way SEF works, you're basically avoiding 70% of the damage if it's only the main monk hitting you
lime light
Lmao
clear pulsar
And root/clone the tiger too, that's a big cd that you can avoid with cc
@lime light cuz you just TF Zerk BITE BITE BITE?
lime light
Damguur
clear pulsar
Maybe it's time for all of us to go necrolord lunar inspiration + savage roar
loud wedge
Is that more burst than penta starsurge?
clear pulsar
Boomie does more dam
lime light
Feral lit
loud wedge
But boomie is not over repped at any bracket but rbg?
clear pulsar
If you would put it in a tier list, Feral's A, Boomie's S
Bro I swear to god
If I have to read another fucken R
Mention representation on the ladder
To make a point
I'm gonna fucken
loud wedge
Pushed a button. My bad
lime light
Yes iam playing
clear pulsar
Or maybe DH yeah
lime light
I mean waiting for weapon
lime light
I will start playing next week
lime light
I rly hate playing common spec
Like 12% of specs in arena
Is arms
But its fun
Big dam
Big utility
loud wedge
Can play demo lock
lime light
No, its not fun
Same with unh and bm
Pet specs areny fun no more
Cuz pet ai
Is worst than ever
cinder sundial
for balance druid in high mmr 3s should I using Pod soulbind
or using mastery for convoke burst
manic radish
2x pvp trinkets set bonus is huge right
whatd be best for arenas as boomkin NF ? the on use one or the proc?
macro it into incarn so u use it always when u convoke i guess?
forest kite
does pain supression stack with survival instincts? same with barkskin?
Well I had ps + SI on when I got blasted by a fire mage + Shadow priest, insta gib
forest kite
Kyrian boomy the way now ?
lost siren
Anyone with jungle cleave exp? I'm playing feral but feel like our mm hunter is doing low damage. I'm often doing 30-40% more, sometimes double. Very seldom are we equal and he's never doing more.
Just wondering what the usual dmg numbers should be. I just returned to pvp after a long break and we got to 1600 pretty effortlessly
loud moss
Ngl after switching to Necro, Ive been missing the Convoke burst windows way more than I have been enjoying the defensive that Necro provides
I feel like once people see me use fleshcraft they pretty mch never focus me anymore
So it becomes a healing battle where enemy healers like HPala have like 70k dmg burst simultaneous to their healing while mine feels very lackluster without convoke
orchid lotus
as boomie do i want to cast anything before or just activate all cds and convoke on low ratring? ^^
loud wedge
Would bait out kicks, CC and defensives like buble first
Or below 1200 just press convoke once and win
forest kite
Boomie convoke is so satisftying, blastin through tanks with 70k hp
devout frost
where the fuck are u finding tanks with 70k hp
stone rapids
Hey guys, is new moon a thing in rbg now? I saw some boomkin playing this in 2k3+ yesterday
quaint smelt
@loud moss I am necrolord and thinking of going Night Fae. How was the catchup with renown and soulbinds?
I feel like Necro might be BiS for top tier glad players that maybe have a 2nd druid that they can go NF for other specs, but as a person with my resto druid main and not much else, Necrolord feels pretty lame. And as you said, they just go on your teammate anyway.
orchid lotus
man apparently iam the worst boomie kekw
devout frost
Hey guys, is new moon a thing in rbg now? I saw some boomkin playing this in 2k3...
4s hardcast
deffo is a thing
manic arrow
ah, sure
devout frost
and only 20% chance
frail narwhal
Full moon is really fun at times in RBGs, but i wouldnt run it in 2,4k+ games
austere thicket
I barely have 1400 rating now and convoking already is super hard. I don't know if I'm bad or just healers are way to OP in 2v2 and basically u killable if you and your teammate don't land a perfect CC chain
devout frost
its not that healers are op
its that convoke is shit against anyone who isnt mouthbreather
and if ur overrelying on it ur gonna lose
austere thicket
Also fire mages seem to have crazy burst, my teammate got hit with poly from invis and basically died in poly xD greater pyro + meteor + some other shit they have all at the same time and you are gone
Who is boomie good with in 2v2 and 3v3?
frail narwhal
you can just rootbeam mage in his opener no?
austere thicket
You can root beam but he can trinket and he still has 10 secs to retry the combo xD
frail narwhal
beam locks his fire spells
devout frost
Also fire mages seem to have crazy burst, my teammate got hit with poly from inv...
all classes have good burst right now
if u disrespect someone popping offensives and u dont pop defensives
then ur gonna die
its a superfast meta
austere thicket
Yeah the meta as super fast when it's dps vs dps, but killing healers is actually hard, like sham, paladin and disc priest are god tier now
frail narwhal
What are you playing with?
austere thicket
I don't have anything really that I play with, I play skirmishes and sometimes find people that want to play a few rankeds
devout frost
pala and disc are good because of their offensive capabilities
healers are far far from unkillable
its not bfa
austere thicket
I tried playing with retri, affli lock, fire mage
devout frost
where healer could stand afk until 50% dampening
frail narwhal
Think most boomies are playing with a healer in 2s
Easier to learn the game while playing with a healer aswell
austere thicket
I think fire mage + boomie was the best one but I find that we are a bit too squishy when we can't one shot someone :P
vast jacinth
Guys i need help im playing feral with my disc parter in 2’s, we are playing at around 1.9mmr and are struggling vs warr/healer the most, can anyone give me some tips what to do vs warr
devout frost
idk how u played with a ret and couldnt kill a healer
fierce wadi
Necrolord for rdruid is bis?
livid wasp
this game is such a joke
facing some ret/warr/prot pala and they just faceroll
nuking priest down and throwing 12k hammers of wrath on me
tardy hare
Yes just be caster comp and prot pala falls behind very fast
tiny oar
@fierce wadi necro bis ya swarm is insane
long ginkgo
Can't wait for them to gut Convoke 😍
orchid lotus
dude iam 1.2k
my mate and me 184 gear 25k hp
all enemys we get 33-35k
wtf man..
thorny venture
to be fair, 184 is kinda low geared if you do pve at all right now
thorny venture
I'm 200 ilvl and that's low
orchid lotus
my char is 24h old 😛
thorny venture
well go grind so m+. 7-9s drop 200 ilvl gear
long ginkgo
Why complain about your health being low lmfao
There are people who are 190 and 2400
orchid lotus
i just wonder how we only meet 210 geared ppl on 1.2k rating
i expected some normal pepegas like us to be there
queen holly
Because they don't know how to play
long ginkgo
Most PvErs are terrible at PvP
queen holly
Is there any good caster combo w/ rdruid in 2s?
Or should I stick to playing with hunters/monks
forest kite
Did they nerf the rate at which you gain rating? I feel like in BFA you could go from 0 -> 1400 in a couple hours of games.
Getting like 10-15 rating every match.
thorny venture
it depends on your hidden mmr
The closer your CR is to your mmr, the less rating you'll get per match
long ginkgo
They changed it in Legion
thorny venture
a 2400 player will keep getting 100 points a game over 2k even I think?
long ginkgo
Wrong
thorny venture
Ah, when does fast rating stop?
thorny venture
ah, okay
clear pulsar
I was getting yeah around 25 a win on my alt until 1500
thorny venture
So yeah, if you're getting 10-15 under 1400, it means you have to work up your mmr
clear pulsar
Well 92 until around 1200
dusty needle
1500 is when your rating tanks
mmr gets hard clapped
so if you were rank 1 last season
you end up like 1700ish mmr to start
but your mmr climbs really quick when you win every game
the rating is not really that inflated yet
thorny venture
I'm sure Blizzard uses a similar mmr system in multiple games. You have high uncertainty early but they tighten it as the system feels more confident your mmr is where it should be.
placid mirage
rip im like 4-8 in rbgs
dusty needle
best thing for rbgs
long ginkgo
Especially when you get higher rated
dusty needle
is to get a high arena rating
then use the high arena rating to get into good rbg groups
placid mirage
I'm like 1750 2s
long ginkgo
Nah best thing for RBGs is to just spam q them
dusty needle
thats what i did to get into my team
long ginkgo
Join LFGs and find people to play with
thorny venture
Yeah, 2k mmr you either get a mythic guild group steamrolling, or you get 10 people who grouped up and may at best be in voice chat.
dusty needle
to join like an actual rbg roster you need 2.4k rbg or hero
or like high arena rating
getting into a real rbg roster is really profitable though
its a lot of fun
thorny venture
My fav is "2.4k exp" for 1600 games
long ginkgo
Yea but if you can't get into RBGs...
Then you're not likely going to get high rated in arena
thorny venture
I got my 1800, I'm probably done for a few weeks while I get more gear.
long ginkgo
Better off just trying to join LFGs and find ppl who want to Q
placid mirage
ya I'm closer to 1800 in 2s than face mashing rbgs
dusty needle
yea but you are going to lose
long ginkgo
Gotta learn some how
long ginkgo
Trust me ik
dusty needle
do what the shot caller says and you get invited back
long ginkgo
I've played thousands of RBGs
long ginkgo
From my experience it's easier to get higher rated by constantly playing
I don't just play Boomy
thorny venture
you just need to find the right team that gels together and you can chain together a few wins
dusty needle
i grinded for glad then i just linked it to the 2.5k mmr team and got an invite
thorny venture
win streak 5 games, suddenly you stop losing rating on losses and get 15-20 per win
long ginkgo
Are you NA or EU
long ginkgo
Idk who that is
dusty needle
in high mmr rbgs you run into the same people all the time
long ginkgo
I don't rly q RBGs anymore
dusty needle
you will
long ginkgo
I randomly form groups and am 2800 mmr
dusty needle
there are like a few rbg leaders who run consistently at high mmr
at least thats how it is on na
long ginkgo
Yea I don't spam Q like I used to
dusty needle
i had 0 rbg xp when i joined a roster
but i had glad arena xp
and that got me in the door
to get my rbg xp
long ginkgo
But if you're new you're better off spam Qing RBGs than trying to get high rated in arena to get into groups
placid mirage
in arena?
long ginkgo
@dusty needle
forest kite
Someone went quiet real quick 
mental fox
Why do people say getting glad is pretty easy?
dusty needle
i pmed it to him
because moonkin has a bunch of pve comps
where you win by doing damage
moonkin is not really that much of a setup based class in pvp
and its really easy to do damage on
and you cant di
which means its one of the easiest ranged to do well on
compared to something like a warlock or mage
mental fox
Still not easy. Maybe easier than some other class currently
dusty needle
well yes its not free
forest kite
It depends on your personal skill obviously
dusty needle
but its definitely one of the easier classes to play
getting gladiator playing boomy spriest is WAY easier than rogue mage
mental fox
Ok this I can get behind
forest kite
He probably meant 'you can't die'
tardy hare
^
neat quest
I mean playing with a priest who can swap with you would be pretty interesting death
dusty needle
they are so immortal that people dont even focus you anymore
people go for your partner
since the ele or spriest is easier to kill
mental fox
How are you immortal?
neat quest
I’ve not done enough pvp this year but with the rework for loot I’ll have to
tardy hare
bear form = unkillable
dusty needle
celestial guaridna
thorns
when you go into bear form you take less damage and get healed more
and you have frenzied regen and iron fur
neat quest
Yep fair trade off for doing 0 damage
tardy hare
teammate can 1v3 anyway
dusty needle
well your dots are ticking
🙂
put dots up on everything then sit in bear form when they swap to you
neat quest
Yeah but that’s not a lot of pressure
neat quest
Shit my dots don’t feel like they do much lol
dusty needle
get more gear
mental fox
What leggo?
neat quest
Balance
tardy hare
or repeat
neat quest
Yup that’s why, I’m nf
dusty needle
but dreambinder is more consistent
mental fox
People instant interrupt that
dusty needle
but boat is fine in pvp since most of ur burst comes from SS in incnr
neat quest
I rather make my match a coin flip
neat quest
Yeah, I’m not a fan of that which is why I think I’ll make binder
dusty needle
and you wait until they have no intterupts
you play around their cc to get convoke value
and ur shaman grounds before you cast it too
and skyfuries
neat quest
Is that one talent help you also avoid the interior? Lunar beam?
dusty needle
with skyfury boat and ground you can cheese some wins with convoke
neat quest
Interupt
dusty needle
they are shaman totems
mental fox
Yeah thats the thing. I play with uhdk and disc priest. They are both much better than i am at pvp
mental fox
Heh i’ll have to ride this to whereever it gets me
mental fox
I want like 2200 this season and 2400 next for first time glad
If its a bad comp then itll just feel easier when i play a real one
neat quest
Moon and stars, isn’t that good convoke protection too?
mental fox
No still get interrupted just less long
tardy hare
how would it be
neat quest
70%?
tardy hare
70% reduced duration on interrupt
dusty needle
so that talent is wasted
tardy hare
your cast is still interrupted
dusty needle
and like i said moonkins dont really cast a lot
almost all of your damage comes from instant casts in arena
its mainly ur dots and starsurge that do all ur damage
and shooting stars off the dots obv
most of ur ap is from ur dots and natures balance
and instant starfires
you cast a few wraths every now and then but ot a lot
neat quest
Tru
mental fox
Only cast twice for solar eclipse usually
dusty needle
yea
a lot of your casts are going to be cyclones
not wrath or starfire
if you have time to cast you are casting cyclone
neat quest
roger that
long ginkgo
The only time you don't is if you're playing with a melee
And into a melee cleave
Where casting is literally impossible
And you get free starfiree
dusty needle
i mean the entire na ladder is melee cleaves man
mental fox
Its 75 % of the games for me
dusty needle
i see
urban stone
im 2300 mmr so its not like im playing against pepegas
long ginkgo
People at 2500 are pepega
long ginkgo
Are you NA or EU
urban stone
na
urban stone
if ur gonna checkpvp either look up beepjr
or
flashyjr
i just realm changed to tichondrius
so idk wat its gonna show as
dusty needle
the amount of shamans on the ladder
dusty needle
casting is hard man
urban stone
it is harder but like it isn't impossible
urban stone
Where casting is literally impossible
And you get free starfiree
tS_bcToday at 8:27 AM
i mean the entire na ladder is melee cleaves man
WesinToday at 8:27 AM
Its 75 % of the games for me
i see
ya i get that
loud wedge
as boomie, would u use ish same talents for rated bg as for 3v3?
urban stone
no
dusty needle
in rbgs you want solstice
long ginkgo
No
dusty needle
you can get into eclipse a lot easier and you have a lot more dots up
so solstice is better for rbgs
dusty needle
fury is better for arena
long ginkgo
Fury is good against melee cleaves that are stacked that's it
strong idol
It's great for burst
strong idol
Good damage and AP gen
mental fox
I thought we wereall playing boomkin!!!
mental fox
Ahh the joke was too slow hehe
long ginkgo
All I'm saying is
Once convoked gets gutted
All the dog shit boomies will tank
And I cannot wait for that to happen
mental fox
We ll all switch to kyrian
urban stone
wut i did tbh
tidal linden
still crazy to me how fast they were to nerf rogues but all the other busted classes they've not addressed yet
long ginkgo
You all switch to Kyrian and don't have a gimmiky one shot
tidal linden
well not gutted but def nerfed lol
long ginkgo
Then get dumpstered since 98% of boomies can't properly CC
thorny venture
Is convoke really winning arenas
long ginkgo
Yes
urban stone
yea it is but u rlly cant just press convoke
u rlly just gonna get stunned
or kick
ed
in 1 second
long ginkgo
That's the only reason why most boomies have gotten past 2100
strong idol
Kinda, but me getting 3 straight starsurges that crit for 12k each is definitely winning a lot more for me than convoke
urban stone
its y kyrian is better for pvp
every1 knows that
its kickable stunnable losable
if u die to convoke
ur dog shit
omegalul
strong idol
To get a full convoke they have to be pretty bad, I don't even cast it in incarn anymore lmfao
urban stone
a sham can literally ground all of convoke
long ginkgo
Just needs to be nerfed it shouldn't be a thing
fresh estuary
Hi guys, does anyone have a macro which will cast prowl if out of combat or cat form if in combat? Now I have to press the button twice, one for cat form and then for prowl
urban stone
if ur facing someone with any sort of pet
its worthless
its just gonna star surge pet
if ur facing turbo its worthless
dying to convoke is pepega shit
long ginkgo
People die to it all the time
strong idol
Idk lol.. I usually just use it as bait so they don't kick my clone
long ginkgo
It needs to be
tiny oar
does it tho
long ginkgo
Yes just like a lot of things
strong idol
I can think of like 10 other things more important than convoke needing a nerf lol
tiny oar
wws in general
strong idol
fucking mind games and WWs
urban stone
who didn't
wat class should
100-0 u
in a stun
that isn't stoppable
convoke is kickable
theres a diff
its stunnable
long ginkgo
LMAO
urban stone
if u die to convoke at this point when u know its in the game
long ginkgo
You're just bad
strong idol
????
long ginkgo
If you died to a rogue
urban stone
link me ur armory
strong idol
You're the one that can't fucking kick it
urban stone
nobody died to a rogue
why cant u fucking kick
convoke
or ground
or
shear
or stun
or los
????????????????
it neEds tO bE gUTtEd
or literally summon a pet
and its dog
long ginkgo
Rogues were fine now they're terrible
long ginkgo
Ppl just complained cause they couldn't use their defensives
unkempt wind
I’ve died to convoke even after insta kicking it because their first 2 spells was full moon then starsurge
long ginkgo
No you're just trash
hasty dome
You don’t think good players have figured out a way to set up full convoke?
strong idol
No you're just trash
Sub didn't need a nerf but convoke needs to be gutted? You're trash lmfao
long ginkgo
It's actually cringe having people who have been stuck beneath 2400 their entire lives finally breaking
2200
And having egos
long ginkgo
Dw Flashy I'm proud of you bro you're about to get your first 2400 achieve
long ginkgo
Jonnybegood
long ginkgo
Go ahead and look me up idc
long ginkgo
I already said it
strong idol
Oh I see it
long ginkgo
If you actually complained about sub rogues you're trash I'm sorry
I'd much rather Q into that then Convoke
People are just terrible and don't know how to press their CDs
Especially in openers
long ginkgo
All I'm saying is it's gonna get nerfed
Then all the dogs will be back in their kennel
tiny oar
okiee lol
long ginkgo
I mean if you think Convoke is fine 🤡
dusty needle
the thing with convoke is there is very obvious counter play
dusty needle
just kick the convoke and its useless
long ginkgo
There is counter play to rogue too
tardy hare
there is no counterplay to dying in cheap shot
dusty needle
just cc the druid on his convoke if you cant kick it
placid mirage
damn the ego really entered pvp chat
long ginkgo
People just don't know how to peel openers
tardy hare
how do you peel
sap cheapshot
rofl
you trinket sap
you're fucked
you tirnket cheap shot
placid mirage
im sorry i dont have enough internet points for ur lunch table jonny but as a new pvper it's nice to be able to at least get decent rating with my one shot button, I don't see how it's any different than the 1800 ppl queueing sub rogue fire mage
tardy hare
youre fucked
tepid spoke
1v1 in wow lmao
long ginkgo
That's problem #1
long ginkgo
How is he opening you
tardy hare
how are you opening him
long ginkgo
All you had to do is incap roar
dusty needle
druids have stealth bro
dusty needle
start the game in stealth man
long ginkgo
but that's too hard
dusty needle
so rogue cant open on u
strong idol
All you have to do is kick convoke
tardy hare
i have a partner
long ginkgo
Apparently
strong idol
Literally one button
long ginkgo
Try binding it
tardy hare
they trinket cloak evasion