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or rogue
I’ve been gearing second Druid because I know convoke is gonna be dumpster
second druid? its easy to switch
and holy shit are you pykan from skullcrusher @haughty compass
lol my druid is renoun 6+ on Kyrian, NF and Necrolord (meme mistake)
I am. I want to see the storylines anyway, not hard to level
celestial guidance vs sinful revelation on feral?
I'm running Sinful now, not sure if it's worth it.
What is the legendary feral uses for a jungle comp (disc/mm/feral)?
sinful st lightless aoe celestial budget everything
Symmetry always better than apex?
And oath
And btw what is the easiest 2s comp for feral to learn?
apex is better if u get few procs back to back
but its super rng
and symmetry is safe pick
Thx - hat about oath and the comp i asked about, do you know something about that? :)
Double dps = feral + ret
Healer = disc + feral
Oath is a good one if you can’t survive the openers. But it’s better for a feral to go sym or apex. Comp based I guess
Thx Wes :)
I'm having trouble securing kills in 2s as Feral/HPal. How do I burst with fearful sym?
Do I save tigers fury for FF to come off cooldown?
Boomy ftw
I'm about to make the switch from feral to boomy. Just having hard time choosing BoAT or Dreambinder. I see more druids in 2s and 3s with BoAT
Anyone know if the floral recycling conduit still works if you are using the swiftness leggo
the ones who have boat mostly have it because they pve too @hasty dome
dreambinder isnt great in pve
guys is there a proper feral guide for pvp?
Which legendary would you guys recommend for a balance druid mainly playing RBG?
Guys is it ok if I’m starting with pvp as rdruid (starting with pvp in general) to stand back and heal+cc from distance?
oh god, I'd hate for this to be my introduction to pvp healing
Thanks!
I tried a bit of pvp in bfa with mw monk
Didnt enjoy monk that much
Is healing easier than dmging for newcomer in pvp tho?
Eh not generally
burst damage is so high right now
would say healing is deffo harder than dps
esp if ur dps player is bad and LoS u all the time

Like everyone is responsible for everything right? So in terms of ceiling, it's whatever. But generally speaking healers take more responsibility for stuff if people are bad.
It's like tanks in m+ I guess
It's not that tanks have this much more to do and coordinate and all that shit, it just falls to them generally
My main is brewmaster and I do mostly m+ with pug, so I see the point
So in general at a base level you could say if a dps fucks up, the game goes longer, if a healer fucks up, you lose immediately
So in that sense healing is much more punishing
Oh, ok and in terms of healer difficulty is druid on top?
Looking for PvP Balance Druids who would be interested in a fun, 7 man boomie RBG group! Minimum ilvl is 185. PM me if interested to join our server. Thank you 😆
My buddy is preparing arms warrior
I think it's pretty stupid tbh to be comparing specs and coming out with conclusions OH BUT THIS SPEC IS EASY TO PLAY AND THAT ONE IS HARD
Would there be better heal than druid to pair it with?
Rsham, hpal, disc are the meta healers atm
yes spec diff doesnt really exist
its role depth/diff
and for pve its encounter diff
We will play 2s only
put 2 minute CD on mindgames
I think in pvp it all comes down to the impression caused by how strong specs are @devout frost
So whenever people say X is easier to play I always think it comes down to 'easier to win as'
8.3 destro was actually very hard and skillful to play
Its a bit overwhelming for me, druid with all its forms
Like sure, there are specs that are easier to pick up, have more straight forward damage rotations or their toolkits are all instant shit that you can press whenever, like havoc, fdk, whatever
But if survival did arms warrior type damage and they increased freezing trap cd to be same as intim shout, I think a lot of people would be yelling that survival is easy to play
Thanks alot
Anyone playing podtending for resto
Resto go necro for def reasons I thinks
ehh not resto primarily so NF for now
not as disgusting as elder druid
Every time someone kills a pod or shuts down a convoke, a kyrian gets its wings
Anyone play ranked games with Frenzyband Legendary?
no thank u
idk never played necro feral
waste of gcd
but i think its decent before ff
also just press it off cd
so your partner can meledickt
or claw

lol
Yeah Swarm does no damage but it's nice for FF
Also you realy have hella downtime as feral
So just press it on cd
idk if anyone can help me understand but i've tried balance druid in arenas and even when i get a full convoke off i dont do like any dmg. I dont have BOAT yet. Could that be that big of a difference?
Boat + CA gives 80% -> 16% crit for your convoke
So 4 spells @ 80%, 4 @ 64% etc
It’s a lot of damage added, moral of the story
Yea bad things were happening @lime light I tinkered first cheap of the game n got full blind sap
I'm a disgrace to ferals everywher
what is CA?
Celestial ALIGNMENT

How important is having a good wep for feral? I remember in classic it was based purely on stats. How true is that for retail?
weapon is ur most important piece to upgrade together with trinkets 🙂
feral want badge or the Insignia?
Thanks. All my gear is for resto, but i want a decent feral off set
why are trinkets important to upgrade
bc its a lot of stats
and what wep enchant would feral want/
i thought i was in pve 🙂 @placid mirage
I been trying 😦 im a lil 1400 baby boomer
trying to figure out what to do now that my convoke doesn't win the game
Sinful Revelation
Did they nerf convoke?
not yet
no but ppl are marginally smarter
they save evrything for it now
Thanks @arctic basin
yeah playing vs double melee if I reveal myself it's just like
spending the next 1min in bear form
yessir
why would they nerf convoke
I think that once the burst meta fades, the necro lord ability is going to be super dope with a bleed build.
give it 2 more weeks and even 1.2k players will hold everything for it
I should have pvp'd more when ppl had no vers
even at 1400 most of the time it's not a huge burst
stat prio for feral?
what cov are u?
Necrolord atm. I main resto, but want to have a feral set for fun / worlf pvp
Verse > Mast > Haste > Crit
Dang... All my gear is haste xD
Cool. I'll have to start collecting an entirely different set xD
I was hoping i'd be able to just use most of what i had.
unfrotunately not for feral
but balance and feral are basically the same
so that is nice
All good. Thanks for the help.
for pvp in general u want vers on all pieces
Aye, but all my resto gear has haste xD
why does haste overtake crit for feral in pvp
cause crits do 50% dmg in pvp @rustic grove
I don't think it'll be the meta move unless they nerf Convoke and Kyrian spell. Even if we had 10k more hp and game was less spiky, healers and hybrids heal so much that rot won't really be a thing unless they nerf healing across the board
It's more than that now
Close to full value
Something like 185% it feels like
175%
Could anyone give me pointers and basically teach me important things in game? I'd like to focus on arenas more this exp with my balance druid. I'd really appreciate anyone's time
vers > haste/mast
I started out and everyone's focusing me 😄
if melees, resto/ursol's keep me alive
and kill themself due to thorns
Okay Resto Druid friends
Oath is looking like a ridiculous legendary to craft
Someone convince me to not do it
dont waste your life kid
do you guys use starfall in 3s? is the cleave good
@lime light Already wasted next argument please
for those that go feral affinity in 2s arena as resto, do you use heart of the wild or do you use the stun? since otherwise convoke is hard to hit with xD
HotW in 2s that I'm comfy with being aggro in
Bash in 3s to basically act as a rogue with the number of stuns we have available
but how do you secure that you hit with full convoke then since he can just move out of range?
maim into convoke not bash
if ou're doing it solo
Maim allows the full convoke to get off
Bash doesn;t
That's what I've been doing if I'm using convoke for burst at least
But it's also frequently into a teammates cc
Bash off target so your partner can get some follow up cc
hey is balance/mm a good 2's comp?
no
Can we get old season reward mounts as drops? I got the bonesteed yesterday and idk why or how
@lime light how come it's not a good 2's comp?
cuz your only win condition is donki kongi someone in opener
gotcha - yeah i read feral is better but i wasn't sure why
does feral offer more outside of the opener?
alright - is it better in 3's with a healer you think?
yes
quick question about feral rotation in arena after opener, do i always want to pool my energy and do 5 combo bites when they have 3x ferocious wound already?
feels like im sitting around a lot after refreshing/maintaining dots to wait for energy to shred and then bite with 50
There isn't any rotations in PvP
sure im not asking for a target dummy rotation
You always bite
im asking if in a hoj or something is it more ideal to save 5cp and energy for bite or not
22k crits with vers bringing them down to 16-18
Not sure what else you'd want in that scenario than the bite
I said yes to bite?
...
im not offering any other options
i was asking is it sometimes ideal to do low CP bites vs high CP bites
The only low CP you should do is a rip and even that's still not ideal
Anything less than 5 CP & 50 Energy is wasted burst damage
Now on the condition you need finish 5-15% you could risk it but that's personal choice
people using kyrian > nf in top rated balance?
They are why?
NF would seem to be the better 2s/3s by experience
I mean starting a fight and bursting someone out is always a great advantage even if not always successful
neck or cloak - is there a right/wrong way to upgrade first, based on stat allocation?
I just feel like convoke is so easily countered at 2k +
Whatever you need more imo
Highest ilvl upgrade is my usual preference
If not that then weapons
And if you're getting convoked countered then you're using it incorrectly
At 2k you can't just yolovoke and win games
Feral hunter is way better than boomie hunter tho for 2s
Yall wilding
@errant grove yes feral hunter is better in 2s than boomie hunter, that would really cuz of Rake stun and Maim for cross cc
how much worse is BoaT
I cba farming mists
did 4 mists already this week still dont have it

@clear pulsar hey man thanks again for the help. do you know if balance/mm is better in 3's?
yea I dont want to do 25 mists
i don't have any feral legs so i'm trying to make it work with my mm friend
The question is do I go necrolord if I’m playing Circle of Life and Death 🤔
Been playing a lot of LSD2 so no chances of dispels
necrolord dot gets extended by verdant infusion though
how do you not have it smh
i get all my memories first time


insta punish
Are there any guides for resto cause I have no clue how to survive anyone's burst I must be doing something wrong,
Only 4? I'm at 63 for this and last week for spires for the weapon
Wait @tropic schooner are you the LoL guy? :p
think i have all bis legendaries
yes
no

in what team
like
i was teamhopping way too much
in season 2/3
I wasnt in that many teams
I think
some team of shusheis
millenium
gamed
was after you time with shushei
n!fac
Best bilance pvp convenants?
under the name hakooh you sure?
i was playing at nfac atleast - dunno if that was the team we were together
Hakucheh
well its interesting to know ur playing wow too :p
ye wasnt with those
lordkevko
maybe
there were a lot of people with lia or something similar at the start
maybe I confuse with someone like lyumi
cat bros
i played some 2s with resto buddy
and he kept complaining nothing dies outside of convoke
what do
resto sham buddy taht is
Resto Sham is crazy right now
I think boomie mm in 3s would have an issue of no lockdown, since mm doesn't have intimidation, I don't think it works. You generally want a partner that can lockdown kill target as mm as well as boomie.
For druid + hunter I think you'd be quite a bit better off with either surv boomie or feral mm
do all of ur enchants and stuff work in pvp
Yeah
okay
That's a git gud issue tbh
thats true
I did rng weapon from vault tho
on my druid
so I think I am basiaclly up there in skill

Biggest enemy is a pillar
how do you other boomies handle shamys and all double shamy teams that just saves groundings for ur burst windows?
stuck at 2k rating
seem to be 90% shamy teams around, playing sp boomie hpala
in 2s with healer dps i find myself swapping between targets too much or tunneling too much, and then when i change it up i’m cloning pretty often
is the play generally go healer, work off of a stun/fear on off? or go dps
balance is covered in the pins
anyone know if the engineering thorns tinker does respectable damage or no?
whats bis restro leg in 2s ?
Verdant I believe
cheers m8
Best gear slot for Verdant lego?
I'm not really sure, I guess which ever is best upgrade.
head or boots says icyveins...
@clear pulsar yo the WA thing you showed me when I was asking about having an icon pop when I can restealth only applies when in combat but I want the inverse?
Is there a button I’m missing to get that effect?
in the 'load' tab jay, there is a checkbox for 'in combat', turn it off
So when I get in combat the icon will drop?
ah no, thats just when the WA will work. Then its prob some specific setting
It’s a simple thing I know is probably really simple I just am unfamiliar with. I assumed someone here had something like that
Don’t see vers
Then click it again
You click it once "in combat"
Click it again "not in combat"
Noice. You rock
are enchants expensive? should i wait til i have conq gear
Expensive is relative
So
Say i wanted to swap to Kyrian
For 3s
How much of a pain is that
Do i lose night fae progress?
Do you know if my NF progress would be restored if i swapped back?
I've heard so
But looking for a confirmation
Is the best healer for 2's like an HPal? I feel like Disc's cc shares Dr's; R sham probably okay too?
I'm torn between leveling a pvp only Kyrian kitty or swapping
Holy pala, resto shammy, disc priest are all good
Holy pala i feel is op
I'm wanting to get into feral pvp, can anyone recommend any Youtubers or places to go where i might learn to play the class better?
root beam -> hoj -> rep -> clone seemed stupid
There's a pinned list of streamers
There isnt much good youtube content on feral pvp in Shadowlands yet
I think Snupy has a video by now
But it's pretty basic stuff
Okay, ill take a look, thanks
Yeah

You keep each covenant's separate progressions
That's sick
can you still blacklist certain battlegrounds from your random bg queue
leveling up a boomkin to help lower cr friends in arenas get 1800 or 2100, kyrian still the better choice? or night fae for some cheese wins?
kyrian always better
kk
koukis bis
I'm too lazy to go Kyrian, but I definitely should make the transition.
is anyone has instructor's divine bell wa? i couldnt find on wago and i dont know how to make one
$ re
yea nice logic but i wanna see on my screen, it is hard to see on 32 inch screen
get a smaller screen then
if u cant see on it
or just use the dummy section of wa that creates the wa for u
stop being rude
can u do both :V
i wanna see how many seconds left on buff and cd
ill try now
@vestal citrus thank you so much
Bt is like so shit in pvp now
Anyone know if we can turn on podtender nameplates?
Random question - What's the most efficient way to start convoking on someone, starting from stealth?
I like to play guardian druid in arena but want to meme with Balance/HOTW/Convoke. Just takes ages to HOTW/Moonfire someone before i start convoking
Also, does convoke hit targets you've cast entangling roots on? or does it count as 'cc' it tries not to break it
I'm having trouble securing kills in 2s as Feral/HPal. How do I burst with fearful sym?
Do I save tigers fury for FF to come off cooldown?
do you pvp boomkins go for BoAT?
dreambinder
u should have dust available to make more than 1 leggo tho
yes which is the amount of legendaries you can craft right now
if you did all the torghasts
can you imagine if you'd forget to do all the torghast? hahaha how funny would that be XD
not me though, a friend
yes but why wouldnt u when its the only content you need to do in a week
best stats weight for Resto druid PVP?
english lol
Oops wrong server lmao
Stat weights not really a thing
is 2 set pvp trinket needed?
if u really want to be competitive u need 2 set and vers gear yes @tacit vale
Aight, even if just unboxed the cheat death use trinket from 213 mythic box? D:
The bonus is only inc healing from vers not inc vers effectiveness thats why im asking @seev
Damage and healing
it did in beta @clear pulsar
both of them
so u could have double cheat death trinkets
didnt try it out late in beta so might have been changed tho
Kyrian still “meta” for balance? Don’t want to invest too much time into night fae otherwise
still meta yes
Is it useable in solo content?
solo pvp?
The way you use it in pvp is to bond yourself, so it is very much usable solo yes @hardy tartan
once you unlock 1800, can you always upgrade conquest gear to 220
or only for weeks where you win a game above 1800
no only when u have the rating
damn
night fae?
nah 1 reset
Nope
2100 is cap lets you upgrade to 226?
I already did the first part to go back night fae
u can do one of the weeklys this week?
So I can't do the first part for kyrian also this week
how many times did u change wtf
All of the times

Bro I'm out here doing God's work testing out all these covenants ok?
I'm not gonna say X is shit without playing with it for a bit at least
But now my horde druid is kyrian and I kinda like it
Phial is insane

Convoke just seems so fun
it is if u have adhd
It's like
Just a spell idk
I do like playing around it, but playing around it is just mostly doing stuff you should be doing anyway, getting cross cc out, baiting cds
I enjoy having that big dick button in my bars tho for sure
But it's not like it's a much more interactive spell than kindred spirits
Or adaptive swarm
Well adhd incompatible with convoke
Making my verdant infusion today for pvp. Everywhere I read they say shoulders>hands but the main/sub stats are the same and you only get a lil bit of armor. If you go hands>shoulders you can get an extra haste piece over mastery. I've tried googling but not much came up so I found out about this discord, hoping I can get some advice from some experienced druids (ex holy pally main, druid be hard but I love it XD
whats the macro for targetting arena targets?
/cast [target=arena1] Spell name (replace 1 with whatever target u want
ohh ty didn't know that
is dreambinder the go to for balance arena now?
guys
is there a way to flip my focus bar
so the portrait is on the left like my player and target frame?
Default Blizz UI
no so like
top to be like the bottom
so... to face right
yes that picture is facing right
Yeah well then ya.. to face right
Now that u know what im talkin about
is it possible?
so your covenant choice determines what you can purchase from the PVP conquest vendor in terms of itemization.. is there any way around this? i'm kyrian and get crit/vers on mh/oh and would rather have mastery/vers
I never knew that was a thing.
yeah, i haven't seen anyone else talking about it, but it seems stupid af. realized it when i was looking at my friend's vault and saw that they had a Lyre OH available from the vault and then the vendor, whereas i only had a chalice for OH
locking preferred stats behind covenant choice is braindead game design and kind of defeats the purpose of the pvp vendor lol which is about the freedom to choose your own gear
Pics?
i'm not online, but i can post later. if you sort by ALL at the conquest vendor, a nightfae and kyrian player will have different items available for certain slots
That's kinda weird ya
I'm struggling to keep people up as resto during big cooldowns like combust. Is there anything I can do to improve that?
Reroll a shaman
A good portion of combustion dmg is just ignite dmg so dispell it towards the end if u have it up
And in general burst healing u can top sumone from 0 hp with a lifebloom rejuv x2 swiftmend sotf regrowth @sullen birch
awesome. Thank you!
Throw a cen ward in there before the mend if you have verdant too
CW extended x2 is pretty gnarly healing
Resto getting buffed?
dont tease me like this
I claimed my box as NF and got a weapon, now Im Kyrian again and can't transmog it lol. I was able to upgrade it tho.
Yea I got a lyre as a necro boi now, if they rly have different stats that's kinda some wack shit
has the pelagos nerf changed anyones mind about kyrian being better for pvp for balance?
@mossy cloud .... is resto getting buffed??
I was running 3s as balance/melee/rsham and was having problems against caster cleaves just out pressuring us. And against some melee cleaves I felt like I couldn't do enough damage while being focused sometimes. Any tips? I was at like 1700
It seems like counter pressure is the only thing I’ve found that worked against melee cleaves constant pressure. Make them have to peel for the healer.
I guess maybe my warrior/ret could be not doing enough damage. Even when I was focused for the majority of the game I would do similar damage to them
I feel like I always am on the defensive at first and wait to pop my offensives which causes early deaths at times
If they are on u, u should be doing more damage cuz of all the starfire procs
I need to find like a pvp coach lol I just feel so lost when I play
Made it to like 1450 and every game feels like a coin flip
I’ve got a lot better from watching streamers.
i feel you cats
im maining feral and getting stuck exactly where you are
feel like my defense game is terrible, like it if i get swapped im just obliterated instantly thru wall/skin
sitting at 186 ilvl
Hey guys, looking to make my first Resto druid lego, gona do arenas with a pal
One you'd reccomend?
the one ive seen recommended everytime is verdent, the swiftmend one i believe
but i think cycle of life is like decent if youre offensive nmaybe?
You think Verdent would be alright in dungons too for tank healing?
LIke to fill other roles
yeah i think itd be fine, its a pretty legit legendary from the sounds of it and i mean youll use swiftmend all the time
Thanks for the pointers
What final tier talent would you guys suggest for boomkin pvp? 2s / BGs
i was wondering that myself zach
iv seen people run all 3
im gonna experiment with solstice a bit to see how much it does
It’s fucking aids
In rbgs
Double boomy
Kms
Double boomy warlock hunter spriest fucking gg insta win
Fucking nasty I bet
How well does resto do inside of a melee cleave comp, like ret/war/resto?
Can’t decide whether to put effort into learning feral balance or resto 😂
Do you want to be melee a caster or a healer? Lol
There lies my problem
😂
For arena I’ve played lock (TBC/WOTLK) and DH (BFA) a lot. Not much else. I guess healer is a nice change, but also never played a stealth class
And balance just pumps 😂
hey, for crafting my verdant infusion for pvp, what slot and what secondaries should i use? im night fae
hello guys , i am seeking an advice about how to deal with shaman's constant purges of my HoTs
Are people using rip in arena or just bites?
trying to piece together info from scrolling here: is it gloves with vers´haste?
You keep rip up
shoulders vers/haste for verdant
Any ferals pvping with apex? Or is symmetry just too strong?
ah how come shoulders? conquest hands seem like u cant buy with vers/haste, thought that was the reason to go for hands?
honestly I think either work but you can get bleakwing assassin's grips for haste/vers also
ah ok ty mate
@dull apex I crafted hands with verdant because you don't get haste versa hands on pvp vendor
@vestal citrus what legendary you using on boomy atm?
I'm actually thinking about crafting one and play some boomy to boost my low friends
nice, I got that one a few days ago. neat
what's your ilvl atm as hardcore raider?
Y’all think dreambinder better than boat for burst in pvp?
yes
no wonder people dying when I heal with my lowy 193 ass
If I would have known that before I would have played boomy at first and swapped to resto later on
trying it probably next id
when legendary is craftable
Which potency conduit as resto do you guys pick (Dreamweaver)?
I personally am playing feline swiftness and frenzied regen under 40%
why not
dunno. i like being fast and not being killed in a stun
i like to be an ape hmm
what renown level do we get in next id?
seems like I'm still a week short for my potency conduit slot

still dont see why you wouldnt use one already
since 2x potency is always higher value
u have potency conduit on first row with niya..
yes, but if i go left now I don't have the endurance that I like to play atm
I'm playing mostly 2s as resto atm just to have fun. not really pushing or anything.
when I want to get serious I probably swap to necro.
but nightfae atm is fun and chill. I can play boomy/resto and pve comfortably
Well honed instincts 
mindgames + instincts 
yep, well honed instincts @vestal citrus
lets me even play more aggressive in cat
if needed I can swap conduits in 3s while preparing for arena.
dunno if this is intendend or not but you can swap your stuff while preparing in arena lobby
Is there a nice RBG guide for Resto Druid?
feral 2v2 doouble dps , guardian or resto affinity
?
which one should i go
?
You'll find varying levels of success depending on matchups, there's no catchall, but I find our offhealing good enough and guardian to be useful for setting up cc chains
Morning qt
But if playing with a low sustain ally, resto affin may be a good idea
Just play it though
And test
Can anyone tell me what the most efficient way of buying the pvp trinkets are? I bought 2 with honour, should I continue upgrading them with honour or wait to buy the 200 versions with conquest?
Ok so i've reached 1600, can i save my conquest for next reset and upgrade a piece to 213? or will i have to stay at 1600+ to be able to do it?
anyone here for some 2s with my boomy? @1.7k cr, just want to get to 1.8 quick for gear
Faction n region would b ideal 2 know xd
🥲
Hey, which is best for feral conduit, conflux of elements or taste for blood?
It is afternoon 4 me but hello 
Taste for blood bite bite bite
cheers 🙂
😔
Hm, after we talked about soulbinds and conduits I just realized I can swap coming ID.
On Dreamweaver I get well-honed instincts, floral recycling and tireless pursuit next week.
I dislike Podtender though. This soulbind ability shouldn't be in arena.
well yeah. still. people went nuts because of trinkets and the "cheat death" you could get from one of those. isn't this just the same?
Unless pala full sacs it
Or priest has rapture
It's honestly fucked sometimes
Just dont kill the night fae

Plenty of times it doesnt even activate and just die regardless
Gr8 pick
crane best soul
Whats better for feral arena. Dreamweavers with 2 potent conduits ot niya with 1?
I really like the "very owned instinc" conduit but I dont know if it is "best". If you find yourself getting burst down alote its kinda nice
1v1 feral vs fire mage , how do i live against combust , i big wall and Frenzy and still die
I got it off a random win that never showed it as a reward in the queue up tab, don't worry too much it'll drop eventually.
@cursive river control, u got 2 stuns, cyclone, interrupt, roar if you play guardian affinity
3 stuns with incan
@plain flint he trinkets or ice blocks both stuns , blasts me in 2 seconds and melts through frenzy
i use big wall and still
3 min cd for a 1-2 min and still kills
It's a stupid matchup cuz Combustion is a giga cooldown that you can't live thru
If you can stun, re-stun when he trinkets, fake the CS when he iceblocks, and then get a cyclone, you'll be dead regardless thru wall
Easier on my survival hunter that's for sure lol
Which stats for symmetry?
@clear pulsar Exactly im dueling this mage over and over until i figuer it out , feels impossible
Hotw double frenzzy is the closest i got
5 min cd LOL
CCing mage after they expend all fire blast charges and blast you for half of Combustion duration already does nothing if you can't dispel Ignite
Hey! 3 quick ones. What's the preferred lego for feral pvp? Is draught of deep focus anything worth getting? Night fae or necro?
Symmetry, no, kyrian or either, just dont go venthyr
Thank you!
Im sure draught is ok with necrolord idk
Venthyr and feral has to be one of the worst class combos out there
Feels awful in every way
Im venthyr rn and it's honestly quite decent in m+
But yeah in pvp its big time worthless
Oi! Is honor gear worth buying, or should i save it for conquest upgrades and try to get gear from m+ insted?
For the versa
if u play a lot of pvp honor gear is pretty easy to obtain and upgrade
Ok! Im gearing up for arena, but my friends are on christmas break so i was wondering if i should spam m+ or just farm BGs
Guess BG it is then 😄
@whole drum you can only buy so many pieces since conquest is capped at a total max, not just current max
So you'll have to fill out with honor gear.
Hitting 1800 is really good for gearing lol fuck pve
Got it last night moonkin disc
Damn nice
In 2s do you generally start in stealth as boomer
feral affinity owns what
for rdru?
should have it in 2s like 90%
Mhm
For necrolord as well?
I play arms rdruid
arite, will play feral aff
then should i also run heart of the wild along with it?
Anyone encountering in 2's where you start the match and one of the enemies aren't in but then they come in like 20s later
Happened a few times today
if i wanna get some ez 1,8k rating with boomy what should i do 2s or 3s with what comp ?
Any comp works with balance. 3s pref
Feral is a little dif tho depending om which comp u want etc.
what is the optimal burst rotation in pvp?
Thrash mangle moonfire maul thrash pulverize
lol
What legendary are ferals running in PvP ?
Do you know a RBG guide for resto druid I only can find Arena guides 😦
Ive always been playing feral but balance seemed so fun atm, seeing ppl run around completely oneshotting people... I decided to try it out but damn i barely tickle the enemy, my star surges are hitting for 2k and 6k maximum crit. What the hell are you guys doing? im 188ilvl
I mean talents/stats/leggo
such dilemma what legendary to use for 2s? I see that all top druids have verdant infusion but i guess thats cuz its op for 3s. im between circle of life and death or oath of the elder any advice?
@maiden wraith the big surges come from Dreambinder Kyrian go’s or unstopped convokes, in what scenario are you seeing 2-6k? Sounds like out of eclipse with no CDs numbers
can you hibernate a BM hunter when it's got the big scary enrage ability they use?
err not the hunter, but their pet
It is with eclipse, even under convoke...
are people still going BOAT for balance pvp or is something better?
@unique forge they can break it instantly
dreambinder
the flat % damage is better than the crit buff for our burst window?
you wont see big numbers outside of incarn and on-use trinket, and kyrian buff.
How do you deal with ww/heal or war/heal as feral/heal?
guys
is it worth to buy ferocious bite conduit?
or no
i feel if i buy it im gonna get one in the next dungeon
and it wil be a waste of 200 conquest
coz i wont beable to upgrade it like another item
"Restoration Druids are the jack-of-all-trade healers. They are the best healer to date and continue to dominate other healers in the Arena. With high amounts of mobility, strong single target and spread healing and powerful defensives, they are unmatched. With all of these tools, they are also the hardest healer to master. It is not a healing spec that can be learned in a day."
why is this description on icy veins outdated
cause the never oom rsham or the infinite heal hpal totally overshadows druid
i jest, just memery
in fairness, how do you guys find matches against rsham and hpalas? I feel they are a bit strong right now and dru struggles to outheal / outmana
if shit would stay as is right now id level my pal but i think there is pvp tuning around the corner and in 2s its fine
oh, thats cool
Hi, im new as druid and also in wow, what addon should i download and what my rotation should look in pvp
So would you recommend kyrian over NF? Kinda feel like convoke is just a meme abillity
they play kinda similar imo...basically both are just a big boi burst button
one just has a larger range
so if you want a more stable consistent option id go kyrian...but just my opinion, im not even good at the game
They both are good, but you have to have a different mindset with convoke. Kyrian easier. Just pop it every beam
Enemy has a pet and grounding, convoke shit
i just swapped to nf because i think convoke is fun. Pretty sure kyrian is better but convoke makes me laugh pretty often. When it pops off its crazy and when its a dud after the set up i still find it funny
Both kyrian and necro are boring af
Anyone either good enough to carry a noob or chill enough to play with a noob? Looking for either 2s or 3s
What classes are better for boomer 2s
BBQ and pensioners
meme
Guys, I wanna get into arena on feral but I only ever played a battleground here and there for fun
@fair vector I am in the same boat lol
Could you recommend how I can start to give myself a good shot?
I read yeah, I was wondering to offer partnering up, but I dont think 2 ferals is great
Best way to get started is to read up on some arenas for dummies kind of guides
then watch feral streamers to get a basic idea of how they play
a list of them is pinned here
Allright thank you!
I'm a PvP casual but I feel hopeless as a Boomkin against melee right now. Anyone else feel the same or am I just bad?
Are you utilizing all of your defensive tools?
Like guardian affi
Or even ursol's in resto afii
2 Melee at once is pretty hopeless, but one should be an easy escape
Ya I've been going HoTw + Guardian affin + renewal
I tried Thorns but it doesn't do much, havent tried Faerie Fire
dont use hotw imo, just prolonging your death. I prefer roots
I've heard people say to bait out interrupts but its easier said than done
prolonging every 5 min at that
double melee is real rough. it's what I'd guess most boomies struggle with. Best chance I have is baiting kicks with clones and staggering cc ie: swarm, typhoon
Yeah roots might be better. I just use HotW to survive burst but maybe its not needed?
Thorns is good if you know when to use it
def not needed
free frenzy with conduit at 40%
Hotw is 5 min cooldown, every go is so muich faster than that. Its cant save your life enough
is Quantum Device acceptable in pvp?
You should definitely use pvp trinkets only
ty I will try root/stun
the versa bonus is too big to pass up at least for now
Ye my biggest problem is also the double melee. Even if I can live i can't do anything else
Maybe just need to space my cd better
Ya you either sit in bearform or just die lol
I miss displacer beast tbh
Also, didn't mushrooms provide a slow back in MoP?
Is it better to go like faerie/thorns/high wind or.maybe protector instead of moonkin aura
I don't have enough keybinds to deal with pvp talents tbh lol
I just need a whole new pvp profile
i go w/ faerie, highwinds, protector in double melee. maybe thorns works better but i dunno what i'd replace it with
Bear/guardian + conduit regen +bear roar/ursol + renewal + thorns/fairie + roots/stun is a lot of tools. NF blink or Kyrian pot. then all the shapeshifting
Is celestial guardian good? I usually take that b/c its passive
ty
I don't have the high level regen conduit but have 184 convoke
dont need it, i use the blue
Can u buy off vendor or does it drop from dg
How many keybinds do you guys have? I have 30 atm but I dont think its enough
2 bars + another 10 or so
But I'm an idiot and don't know how to use elvui right so if I could it would be less
you can macro stuff together, like barkskin and bearform. If you press the button in a stun, u still get the bark.
or CA and Kyrian. button will still cast Kyrian every minute
Yeah but there is still moments where you want to just cast barkskin
Does fury of elune cost a gcd
yes
Yeah
Help harm macros work wonders
also mawrio lemme give u a god macro
Do you combine Soothe and Remove Curse into a macro?
I am also in need of God macros
No, I don't think you can
yes please
Because you can cast soothe on anyone, even if not enraged, and it will go onnCD
#showtooltip
/cast [@atomic patrolover,help,dead][help,dead]Rebirth;[spec:4,@mouseover,help,nodead][spec:4,help]Nature's Cure;[@atomic patrolover,help,nodead]Remove Corruption;[@atomic patrolover,harm,nodead][harm]Soothe;[spec:4,help]Nature's Cure;Remove Corruption
there's 4 buttons in 1 right there
rebirth if dead, cure if alive...if enemy soothe
Huh that looks amazing...
rake -> rip -> TF + Berserk -> FF -> Bash -> 3x Bite
really good symmetry go
from stealth
Can cyclone and hibernate be macro'd? Can you detect if an enemy is a beast?
thanks EazyE, I will have to try that macro asap
don't have symmetry :/ I have Cat-Eye and Apex
: (
is that a huge no-no?
hmm
Other than that the general tip for 2s is
bait trinket with clone/maim
separate person with no trinket
fat convoke
5cp maim + convoke is almost always a kill into no trinket
you should macro it with pvp stat trinket
Thank you ❤️ So best trinket is on-use trinket?
Boomkin pretty much need a healer for arenas huh? Me and my outlaw rogue friend do 2s but I dont think its worth our time anymore after getting stomped
Definitely
on use primary stats + the classic cc removal
You can macro it with convoke and also with berserk
thanks a lot ^^
For the necrolord restos that have tried night fae, how much better does it feel? Been considering changing but necro kinda sucks donkey dick in m+ which is the main thing I do apart from arenas
Druid form macro that is spammable without removing form? Is this a thing?
I've played Feral resto as the feral and we had a good time
feral/guardian affi depending on matchup and you can cat convoke to buy quite a bit of tempo
also double convoke setups are nasty
How is feral feeling in general BGs?
I am still running circle cause I don't have anything else 🤷♂️
As a mage i feel like I don't see any cats
rand
Its fun
people blow up really fast to convoke or symmetry bites
its still a fun flag carry and great ninja capper
and if i have no desire in any of that... boomkin? lol
which legendary is bis for boomkin in pvp? let me guess boat?
The one that makes starsurge cheaper I believe
Boomies do stuff other than convoke?
not life and the cycle legendary?
convoke is pretty bad asap you get to higher ratings
I'm at 1450 and it's already falling off
But the people on the forums said to nerf it
Anyone know of a WA that tracks enemy cd's ie; karma, bop, etc.?
its not like you can setup a full convoke at high rating aslong enemies dont missplay hard and position themselves horribly wrong
at the same time
Ty
Confirmed
how tf are rogues able to remove bleeds now i stg that was the one counter they had and now my bleeds are getting removed and they get a free restealth
kyrian ability
^
Yep
great
"great" hahahaha
sure u can lol
Cat-eye Curio worth for pvp (mostly bgs and arena)?
does master shapeshifter feral still not work for resto?
curios fine
just feel like ur playing without a legendary to me
doesnt feel like it does much
^
damn! I am using Apex. It also feels like I have no leg ahaha
apex not that bad
prob second best after sym
but overall most feral leggos are meh
It's not a thing anymore, they patched it out of the game
Curio feels pretty decent during Berserk
Like idk I feel a noticeable increase in pace during Berserk with Curio vs no Curioo
But that's about it
Any of you have a UI setup you suggest?
default ui
talked about sephuz with axtin and like
if u cc in between gos
and u proc sephuz
then its kinda gg
lol
seems pretty worthless actually
What conduits are you guys using for feral in 2s/3s?
Am looking to get into druid arena pvp and deciding between balance and feral. Kind of leaning towards feral though, looks more fastpaced and fluent to play.
what do you guys recommend for arena?
question guys, fury of the skies best for pvp? is fury really only like a 2.6% dmg increase w/ both buffs?
Conduits are all pretty weak in general
ah okay. lame
They're made to scale until the last tier and so right now they'll all be pretty small stuff
they're both in good spots right now. i'd say feral is more consistent pressure while boomie has bigger setup potential. there's nothing stopping you from trying both. honor is easy enough to come by
when will skoldus halls be next available for balance of all things?
rippp
huh
pvp
lol
are you doing just arenas or trying rbgs? if rbgs as well id say boomy. lot more fun in rbgs
Glyph, have you crafted a 2nd leggy yet? I dunno what to mess around with (i have dreambinder)
wait serious no troll tho? I thought all the top boomkins are running BOAT
kk ty will try and see @wanton parcel







