pvp

[junior plover]

[heady fog]

ye, I can see that, just a fast way to get to 1800, just oneclicking every team in sub 1 min

[wanton parcel]

Thanks, @winter spindle . any classes in particular that you look to group with in 3's besides rsham?

[junior plover]

Last game before 1800s i was 3% hp vs a rogue, pressed convoke and rolled 2x fb off the first 2 casts killing him instantly

[winter spindle]

I play boomy / rsham in 2s

[chrome panther]

rogue tbh

[winter spindle]

In 3s either boomy / spriest / rsham or

[junior plover]

Rogue is shit in 3s

[chrome panther]

abuse it till they both get the axe next tuning

[junior plover]

Well not shit

[chrome panther]

lol

[junior plover]

But not broken

[chrome panther]

rogue boomy

[winter spindle]

Boomy / rogue / disc priest for gig. Burst

[chrome panther]

is disgusting

[junior plover]

Fair enough

[chrome panther]

Nothing survives kidney/bomb

[winter spindle]

Seriously though everyone still underestimates balance, I’ve played so many games where I’ve just swapped to the healer and burst them down with 4 starsurges

[wanton parcel]

Is vers/mastery the go to for boomie?

[heady fog]

probably from watching balance druids high on ladder, most seem to favour it

not saying that is automatically correct, but I can see people thinking top players knowing stuff.

[winter spindle]

That sub 2k players are usually rogue re rollers

Haste vers is better

[wanton parcel]

Ah ok. I am still learning the boomie ways but was just thinking that with increased cast time on starfall procs maybe mastery overtakes haste but i dunno boomie much at all

[winter spindle]

If you’re vs double caster Starlord solstice, if your vs a melee Incarn FoE

[small storm]

so we know exactly what this means right

[chrome panther]

lol

inc 25% starsurge nerf tbh

[small storm]

convoke i think

[junior plover]

:( convoke

Idk theyd need to kill monk pala and shammy as well

Maybe we get off easy

And it's about rogues and hunters

[stone nest]

I don’t think they are nerfing convoke honestly

[winter spindle]

GG balance

Back to cyclone bots

[stone nest]

Balance may take a hit

[winter spindle]

🥱

[junior plover]

Idk it's just

[stone nest]

Pally is fine atm

[junior plover]

You watch those fire mages

Trying greater pyroblast

Like it's 2019

And then you have boomies

[vague cave]

top legendarys for feral arenas?

[junior plover]

Symmetry

Pretty much only

But if you're a pve frog Apex can provide decent setups and is bis in pve

[limber notch]

what covenants are resto druids leaning towards

[junior plover]

Depends on what you want to do

Night Fae gives you a boomkin convoke

So you can play really aggressively for kills

Kyrian is just solid

Necro is alright but meta is a bit fast for it

[limber notch]

thanks for the info

[winter spindle]

The only class that needs a nerf is rogue

Just to reduce their burst inside of stuns

[small storm]

probably

[winter spindle]

I love the fast paced meta, but I do agree that being able to 1 shot someone in 1 kidney shot is too much

[thorn quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93y6iWlaXp0&ab_channel=ZimicGaming
New video of anyone can shot it some love ❤️

[junior plover]

I do enjoy the fast meta too

MM feels fair now

Tbh

Like it's still absurd damage

But if you keep pressure up they can't do shit

[winter spindle]

Fast meta is great l, I feel like so many classes can now win rather than just a few select classes. It opens up the skill floor so much. If you can react faster to burst in this season, you will be better than most

[chrome panther]

when sub, arms and balance get toned down it'll be great

[junior plover]

Arms is getting nerfed

Ah no

I remember wrong

They're buffed in pve

Unchanged in pvp

I thought it was the 20% that they added

Pve is baseline

Mortal Strike damage increased by 20%. Damage reduced by an equivalent amount in PvP.

Not sure

[stone nest]

A streamer brought up a good point in that the damage is crazy atm but also the off healing potential from dps classes. If they need the damage but keep the healing games will last forever

[junior plover]

Yep

Played Holy Feral Monk earlier

No one dies

Even in this meta

[stone nest]

Like ret can heal an insane amount without using any mana

[junior plover]

Make that monk a prot pala

[keen vault]

the strongest comps will align their 10k bursts and 100-0 in the same global

at least that is my newb opinion, lots of stuff seems viable

[junior plover]

Yep that's what setups are for

High rating arena used to resolve around those

But now you can kill a lot of specs with no setup

Idk. It's fun, i hope they let us have it for season 1

[narrow sage]

what are some good macros for feral frenzy in pvp

[tulip pelican]

why macro it?

[chrome panther]

yeah

/cast feral frenzy

done

🙂

[junior plover]

[hoary ledge]

Lmao /cast feral frenzy

Ggwp

[noble holly]

Does adaptive swarm break cc’s?

[forest kite]

rogue getting buffed?

[chrome panther]

assass is getting buffed.

[tiny oar]

Assass buffed for pve ya

[strong spear]

Is Malorne's swiftness work in combat while in a BG?

[oak canyon]

anyone have a cancelform cyclone macro?

the one im using keeps telling me ihave no target

[clear pulsar]

Why the

You can just use cyclone and it'll take you out of your current form

[stray sigil]

guessing for convenience sake/no binds left

[forest kite]

If you can't catch up soul ash does the cap go up eventually

like does it open up

or are you just forever behind

[strong spear]

which two pvp trinkets are worth it?

Kind of torn on the on use for fear/stuns or the one that reduced them if more then 5 seconds

I am pretty good at shifting out of slows/ice

[clear pulsar]

Forever behind doesnt mean anything

You can only use one legendary anyway

And there are only so many you can make for your class period

[clear pulsar]

You dont generally want the automatic trinket cuz it's easy to pop it with something dumb and then you have no way out when they try to kill you for real

Just go with medallion + badge as default

[tiny oar]

Adapt trinket is pretty troll ya, either relentless or regular medallion usually depending on matchup like our necro enthusiast said

[mossy cloud]

Which legendary slot is BIS for resto

Neck/back?

[tiny oar]

If ur not mythic raiding and cant get the increased ilvl shoulders from generals then shoulders slot verdant infusion is ur best bet for pvp atm. @mossy cloud

[lime light]

Any 22% bigger chaos bolters in the chat

[patent dove]

[fast vale]

I am so terrible at pvp on Druid 😂

Not the easiest time to be learning I think ha

[sand spade]

Best PvP setup for Feral in 3v3?

Legendary/Covenant et

etc

[tiny oar]

Most* r1 ferals going kyrian / symmetry atm @sand spade *couple fae lads in there as well

[tardy hare]

NIGHT FAE GAAANNGGGG

🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

#1 🏆

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

Lake come play

Alliance alt

Go go go

[tiny oar]

My nelf druid only 51 atm

[tardy hare]

Smh

[candid condor]

Eternal Skirmish vs. Stats for Feral?

[queen drift]

Any rdruid streaming arena rn? Can't find one 😦

[tiny oar]

Minpojke/ FlopDru/ metaphorsx are all streaming rdruid pretty consistently

LuuxiA too if ur a frenchie mdr

[clear pulsar]

Metaphors still streams?

Haha nice

[tiny oar]

Yea

[lime light]

@tiny oar is rdru hot garbanzo?

[tiny oar]

Feels pretty horseshit atm ya

I log on my rsham and it's like wow I was just gaming on hard mode trying to play rdruid

Literally made this swifty one heal meme fucking macro for sub rogues and my partners still dying in the opener xd @lime light

[dire nymph]

Melee cleaves go brr

[echo canopy]

can somebody please link me some resto druid PvP streamers?

[clear pulsar]

Scroll down 10 messages bruh

[tiny oar]

^

[lime light]

Imagine if i was a mod in here

How good the channel could be

[feral drift]

anyone know if i cna just hold on to the quests for arena that give 250 anima and conquest for next week?

[lime light]

No

[unborn anchor]

they get removed with weekly reset

[lime light]

I tried with some random ass dugbeon quest

And i lost

:)

[feral drift]

ah damm

guess i better turn in now

[lime light]

Yes

[open verge]

what would be a point of holding it anyway

[safe heart]

legendary for resto?

[tiny oar]

Try to turn in for next weeks 1000 anima quest I'd guess

Verdant infusion swiftmend extends hots @safe heart world boss ain't up for it yet tho

[safe heart]

ah okay so ill hold out

[lime light]

Anima quest so u dont have to do trahcan content like wq

[sick latch]

hey, i've been playing hpal / boomy with a friend and we can't find a solution when ppl juste kite and los my cooldowns and we usually get outpressured outside of them

[queen copper]

did warrior nerfs go through yet?

god i hate warrior

[cold linden]

sorry if this has been asked before i'm a resto main so went Necro but finding myself playing more boomy atm is necro terrible for boomy?

[queen copper]

worst of the lot

[cold linden]

bugger

[devout frost]

@queen copper warrior nerf is through

[tiny oar]

Keep in mind that most recent blue post was all pve bullshit tuning

Pvp tuning soon TM

[devout frost]

arms got pvp tuning

[spark gulch]

Won't work

I play restro druid with Necro. But swarm seems to have no noticeable effect. Feels like i play without a covenant.
How hard is it to switch to night fae? Do I loose everything like Anima and house upgrades?
Or when I switch back to Necro someday I still have everything like now?

[open verge]

Wait what warrior nerf? I only see a buff in pve 20% and they compensate for that with 20% nerf in PvP which means they stay the same?

[devout frost]

20% reduced is more than 20% increased

[viscid remnant]

[open verge]

Yeah but from the sound of it they just wanted to keep PvP dmg intact

[pallid coral]

It doesn't say 20% reduced

lol

[open verge]

Exactly

[pallid coral]

It's just that the buff that they got for pve content

is offset in pvp

because they're only ok in pve content

and good in pvp

[open verge]

So what nerfs are you guys seeing

[clear pulsar]

Seev just cant read

Theres no nerf yet

[devout frost]

they write it unclearly

english bad

[tiny oar]

its a lil wack wording ya

[mighty wraith]

Would like to know that 2

[strong spear]

So just to clarify

the PvP gear share same stats between guardian and feral?

[clear pulsar]

All agi gear has the same stats for all agi specs

[open verge]

rip big bites and convoke 🙂

[lone dragon]

is convoke too op atm?

[open verge]

There are cases in 2s where the team is unable to stop it, and then you can just 100-0, which might be problematic

its definitely not consistent and the higher I climb the more I think about going kyrian

but perhaps when I get the bite conduit on a decent ilvl

[lone dragon]

i'm a boomkin hahaha

idk if it's viable in pvp

[open verge]

for a boomkin id just go kyrian

[lone dragon]

just aiming for 1600

[open verge]

wow then its defnitely viable

you can cheese wins to 1700 easily

[strong spear]

Also on the honor page, the total for next level doesn't increase?

[open verge]

next honor lvl?

[lime light]

Day 4

Convoke nerf waiting room

[icy hemlock]

Is PVP just haste + Versatility now for healers?

[strong spear]

I just hit lvl 3 @open verge

then I see now that in lvl 3 I have 137 / 5500 already

but when I was lvl 2 the second max number (after the / ) was also 5500

[clear pulsar]

The most important part of necrolord is that adaptive swarm does buff the direct heal portion of Regrowth

Honor levels will increase eventually @strong spear

But they're just there for cosmetic rewards

Titles etc

At lvl 15 or 20 or whatever they max out at 8800 per level

Maybe earlier

[remote cave]

Bleed Build going to be the best bet after nerfs to feral?

[clear pulsar]

What nerfs to feral?

[remote cave]

It's coming

[clear pulsar]

Bro yall ask some wild questions. What is 'bleed build' even? Why do you think anyone would have any certainty over what will be good after an imaginated set of nerfs that no one knows about?

There are no nerfs, no one knows if there will be nerfs, what would be nerfed

[remote cave]

They mentioned in the news letter they are looking into bursty classes

[true pendant]

Ok bro

[remote cave]

I'm talking Legendaries, when I mean build.

[clear pulsar]

Wild

[remote cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282986412624838666/787147580516728852/image0.png

@clear pulsar

Nerf Inc

[clear pulsar]

Pls dont @ me

With imagination thoughts

[remote cave]

Delusional

[tropic kiln]

How much honor do you get from win/loss in 2s?

[devout frost]

do u even get honor from ranked arenas

[tropic kiln]

Yeah - it's part of the unlock system for . . . vaults

I believe

Unless I'm just reading everything totally wrong

Trade says 80 for a win, 35 for a loss

[clear pulsar]

110 per win

80 is for skirms

It's either 100 or 110

First win is 200

[spark gulch]

Around 100-120 honor per 2s win

[tropic kiln]

ty

[lime light]

Good times dying to triple dps at 2.4k mmr

[clear pulsar]

You seen the triple sub comp at top 20 on ladder?

[open verge]

yeah I was surprised how quickly you unlock great vault rewards just by queueing

pretty good system imho

[sand spade]

Started arena as Boomy today, after the FoE "Go", what do I do?

I feel like I just LoS Vs ranged or sit bear Vs melee

[clear pulsar]

Pretty much

Cycle cyclones to peel if they aren't one you

Put up dots and let them build up some astral power

If you can cyclone healer then you throw out your starsurges on kill target

Etc

If they're sitting on you the best thing you can do is sit bear, manipulate their position

Kite them away from their healer, behind line of sight, etc

Positioning is very important in arena

[main minnow]

best ferral leggie? 😄

[clear pulsar]

Most people are going with Fearful Symmetry

Apex and Circle have potential too

[torn quail]

Hey guys, as a balance druid should i craft memory of the timeworn dreambinder as a chest or as a finger?

[fallow root]

I took a lot of your guys advice and won a few more games last night. Still not a great w/l ratio but it’s improving. Balance is kind of tough to play in 2v2, I played with a mage

The high winds talent helped a lot, and when we were playing stuff like Ret/arms fairie fire saved us a few losses

[clear pulsar]

Yeah generally you want a partner that can stun kill target in 2s, or a healer. Preferably a healer with a stun too.

But I'm sure boomie mage can work to good rating if you all learn the matchups

It's always fun figuring out weird combos ofc

[open verge]

Have you tried cheesing big oneshots in rootbeam with convoke

[hidden mortar]

Sorry if this has been asked but is there a resto guide for pvp yet? I checked pins first but only see boomkin

[open verge]

It's a world for rshams and discos

[clear pulsar]

Wowhead guide is probably the most up to date

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/restoration-druid-pvp-talents-racials @hidden mortar

[hidden mortar]

thank you

[fallow root]

@open verge yeah
I two tapped some people with big starsurges

If i could be alive long enough to pool 90-100 AP we would win. I’d pop incarn with my BOAT legendary active and pump 3 starsurges into them

My mage was combusting right out of the gate so they’d use their defensives on that

We did lose a 1v2 to a disc priest that was doing insane damage and healing. He was like a raid boss practically

Very embarrassing, then I looked him up and he had glad exp and was pretty geared but was playing in lower rated

[clear pulsar]

Yeah everyone is low rated since season just started

First week you end up facing a few big time players in lower rating

[fallow root]

I feel like feral might be better for 2s?

[clear pulsar]

The spec you're more comfortable with is better

Feral would likely work better with a mage if you're not particularly better at either of the specs

But if you never played feral and just main boomie, swapping won't do you much good

Boomie with a rogue is nasterino right now, or maybe a ww too

[open verge]

ive watched some 2s footage of a sub rogue

triggered me how braindead easy it is

[vale bolt]

So Im making a druid which race you guys think is the best for pvp

[open verge]

NE no question

[vale bolt]

How about horde side

[clear pulsar]

For horde it's kinda whatever, tauren is the most reliable racial and generally what everyone will pick, but it isn't as big of a difference as nelf vs worgen and kultiran

[open verge]

doesnt matter on horde much

[clear pulsar]

With warstomp you can reliably get space to get a cast off, so either a big regrowth with sotf, or cyclone, etc

[vale bolt]

I was playing with a new HMT the bull rush seems like a nice interupt and they have increased Versatility

[clear pulsar]

Highmountain can be cute and all, mobility or whatever

[open verge]

If I were horde Id choose tauren although its model sucks ass

[vale bolt]

Now how fucked am i going be if i dont gp necro

[tiny oar]

can confirm i am a sad tauren

[clear pulsar]

I don't think it's too big of a deal

Necro is definitely the most reliable for resto

But like

You can make shit work

[still venture]

i swapped from nightfae to necro on my feral and i want to swap back lol

[open verge]

And keep in mind that the good soulbinds are not unlocked for necro anyway

[clear pulsar]

Yeah true

[open verge]

Necro on feral sucks ass completely atm

[vale bolt]

yeah i def wanna go night fae

[still venture]

when will it be good lol

[open verge]

I doubt it ever will

Unless they gut bites completely

[still venture]

so whats the prefered covenant? night fae?

[open verge]

But then feral will suck anyway

Kyrian I'd say

[vale bolt]

Im not into RP per say but druids should be night fae

[open verge]

NF is good for 2s

Or lower ranks

[haughty compass]

They all have their merits, you see the top moonkin all pretty diverse except no chicken plays Venthyr it seems

You can just be trigger happy with night fae ive found

Can’t*

[open verge]

Yeah you wait too long or you pop too early and it's useless

[haughty compass]

Playing with a rogue makes night fae better, cross cc ftw

[open verge]

Yeah he can just cc both

[lime light]

Why iam not green name expert yet

[open verge]

lul

[tiny oar]

lulw

[lone trellis]

Cherche feral pvp d ebon niveau pour m'aider mp moi 👍

[chrome panther]

[tardy hare]

Delicious

[small storm]

@void nimbus

[true pendant]

Lmao

[void nimbus]

Tbf

I'm not carried by convoke

But by my Prot P partner

[small storm]

wow

[tardy hare]

[small storm]

ban fore

[chrome panther]

string him up

[small storm]

every game man lol

[onyx tide]

so what is the opening for balance after going out of stealth to burst max? im abit new to druid xD

[chrome panther]

fury > badge/incarn/kyrian > ungabunga starsurge

[onyx tide]

aint night fae better then kyrian in arena?

[chrome panther]

Not for boomkin.

[tepid spoke]

Seems like someone never played against a nf moonkin

IQD mastery proc full moon the first second of convoke = oneshot

[waxen karma]

Yea I’m having a great time as convoke atm in 3s. 2kmmr 1850cr atm

[stray sigil]

u will literally never get a full convoke off in 3s if the enemy has hands

[waxen karma]

Just have to work on your strats and make sure you create good win conditions

Playing with a hpally makes you a god vs melee. Just bop and convoke dem hoes

[lime light]

@stray sigil last warning

or iam reporting

[stray sigil]

[lime light]

[stray sigil]

[lime light]

[narrow oxide]

I am 535/560 on conquest points for weekly cap. I have a weekly quest that will give me 100 conquest. If i cash it in i will waste a lot of conqeust. Can i wait till next week to cash it in and finish this week using other mehtods? or will i lose my quest?

[open verge]

no you cant, just do the quest

conquest is just free basically anyway if you do any type of pvp content

cap is so low in comparison to conq gains

[summer oasis]

How do I go about farming a 2h weapon quickly? Bg spam or?

[devout frost]

Fastest to buy on ah

[summer oasis]

Buy honor on ah?

Or you mean a weapon

[narrow oxide]

Ok thanks

[devout frost]

Buy a weapon yes @summer oasis

[narrow oxide]

I’m thinking I could buy an item and then recap. What you think?

[devout frost]

Cant recap @narrow oxide

[narrow oxide]

Ok let me explain

[summer oasis]

Is there a 2h int weapon to buy? I don't think so last time I looked

[dusty tiger]

You can get one in like 2 bgs

[summer oasis]

It was just a 1h and no offhand

[devout frost]

550 is max conquest you can get this week

[summer oasis]

Guess i can buy that and a pvp offhand

[dusty tiger]

Honor

Upgrade it to 184

[narrow oxide]

I’m on 535. Cap is 550x rather than cash in my 100 conquest quest what if I spend conquest on bracers taking me down to 10 conquest. Cash in my quest so I’m 110 conquest, then earn the rest to get to 550 before reset. Would that be best?

[devout frost]

If youve earned 550

[narrow oxide]

I haven’t

I’m on 535

[devout frost]

Then you can earn 15 more

[narrow oxide]

What if I spend what I earned before reset.

[devout frost]

Doesnt matter

[narrow oxide]

Do I still only need 15 more?

[devout frost]

You can only earn 550 max

[narrow oxide]

Ok

[devout frost]

Anything beyond that dissapears

[narrow oxide]

Ok got it thanks

Do you know if I wait to next week to cash in my weekly quest can I get the new weekly quest once I hand current one in or will it just lock me out?

[devout frost]

It Will dissapear on reset day if you havent turned it in

[narrow oxide]

Ahhhh ok thanks very much

[brave vortex]

anyone want to help a brother out? Playing feral and love arenas but im trash apparently and really want to push up to 2k this season. I started playing the game in 8.3 so im a little new. Not looking for carries just looking to play with some exp players and learn and get better.

[open verge]

but here you'll find other feral which wouldnt make good partners anyway 🙂

[cold linden]

I'm seeing some conflicting info I've just made Boat for PvP I assume it's between kyrian and NF for covenant choices?

[open verge]

yes

kyrian is better imho

but guys have made both work

[brave vortex]

True lmao

[open verge]

if you want a good comp go with disc priest in 2s

[brave vortex]

Yea for sure I have a friend that plays disc we get very close to 1600 and start getting smashed back to low 1500. I dont know what im doing wrong

[open verge]

what comps do you struggle against?

im barely above 1700 myself so not much better

didnt play much tho

[drifting burrow]

after vers, whats ferals best pvp stat?

ive been going crit for FB's but should i be going mastery?

[open verge]

yes

[brave vortex]

casters and hard hitting double melee with tons of heals like ret/warrior its like you have to kill the arms 3 times lol

[open verge]

or go ret, mass dispel bubble

[brave vortex]

ww/sub is a bitch too lol

[haughty compass]

Or that stupid battle Rez seed

[open verge]

it saved me a couple of times too

[lime light]

monkaTOS

[tiny oar]

https://wago.io/Wi5b8_TmZ

Heres a weakaura to remember to murder it instantly

[shy plaza]

As far as arenas go. Feral and Balance have about the same potential, pretty much?

climb well with either?

because if I could keep healer partner the same AND switch between specs...Ballin

[mossy cloud]

Question - If I want to get 2 legos, I can craft 2 of the gear pieces right?

Since we cant get Verdant for 2 more weeks i am gonna craft something else, and I dont think they share the same BiS item

[shell geode]

Need resto advice. Any tips on surviving these crazy burst openers?

[split ibex]

Same @shell geode , It's like a rape train after the patch

[lime light]

@tiny oar @vestal citrus

[stone nest]

Well honed instinct conduit Hotw bear aff pre hot gl

If it’s bad enough oath is an option

[chrome panther]

partners need to peel more than ever

no healer can survive 2 mdps that know a dps rotation sitting on them, even if they let you freecast your probably still dead

[tranquil raft]

as boomy, what stats are you guys running on your leggo?

[fallow root]

I think haste versa is the way to go

@chrome panther I’ve found that forceful winds + fairie swarm works well with this, we won’t last night a few times vs melee cleaves using this

Rets get a surprised pikachu face when they get disarmed

Won*

I watched one Ret use his trinket on the disarm lmao

[mystic vault]

any tips on how to beat spriest/healer as feral/healer?

i feel like i get outdamaged almost always

[haughty compass]

Haste vers on my time worn
Mast vers on boat, because I pve

[tranquil raft]

thanks <3

[fallow root]

Can you change the missives if you used the wrong stats?

[open verge]

perhaps while you upgrade?

[sand spade]

Really struggled Vs Shadowplay today, they both did double our damage and had insane CC :S

What do we do against that?

[open verge]

as what, boomie sp?

[sand spade]

Nah, Boomie/Warr/Disc

I know it's not ideal comp but it's all we can put together haha

[hot viper]

in 2s is any resto able to catweave with how high dmg is?

[chrome panther]

yes

unless your against double dps, feral aff is good for securing kills

[naive tundra]

How do i survive more than 1 enemy as a feral? It seems like I die in few seconds even after using all defensive CD and in bear. Like two warriors killed me in 3 seconds in bear form. As soon as I get stunned and don't have a trinket I'm pretty much dead even with all my CDs

If it's on obvious I'm new to feral and wow in general (been playing for 2-3 months now)

[sonic mortar]

what do you guys think of boomy/warrior/disc? trying to decide on a comp with friends and that seems to be a choice everyone is happy with but not sure how well itll do

[open verge]

@naive tundra ursol vortex, jump away?

SI, skin, thorns

double frenzied regen

[burnt trellis]

Lets say I wanted to do feral for pvp, but I main guardian for pve. I main venthyr rn, anyone know if not being night fae would screw it up.

same with soulbinds and conduits or whatever

[open verge]

venthyr is the worst of them all

but you can still pvp just fine

its just as if youre without a cov

[naive tundra]

Double?

[open verge]

if you run guardian aff you have frenzied reg and you get the bis conduit that uses frenzied reg when you drop below 40

[naive tundra]

I see

Also I have a problem with kill securing

But I think I know why

I need to learn other classes' defensive CDs

So I don't hit into them

[sly lagoon]

hi guys, anyone knows what legendary item rdruid builds?

[open verge]

everyone waits on verdant

[novel sky]

Get omnibar addon if you don’t have it, will help you know when things are used

Might have to go into the options and turn on specific things tho

[naive tundra]

Got it

Does it do the same as weak auras?

[open verge]

well you can do anythign with weak auras, omnibar is just ready to go

[runic thistle]

any r druids around 1650 cr wanna q? im a 1650 cr spriest

[novel sky]

It’s just a little bar you can position anywhere that pops up an icon and a cd of specific abilities

So like if a guy uses interrupt it will appear on the bar

So you know it’s on cd

[naive tundra]

I see

I guess it's useless in BGs

right?

[novel sky]

If you like seeing a million icons haha

[naive tundra]

lol got it

No I meant I need to learn what those defensive CDs look like

For example I know hunter's turtle

and paladin's wings

[novel sky]

Yeah, it’s hard to see some of them though

If you see the icon pop up you instantly know

[vale canyon]

which covenant ppl are going for rduid in pvp? convoke seems rly fun but swarm and flesh craft seems more reliable

[open verge]

@naive tundra get BigDebuffs too, it shows the buffs/debuffs on nameplates

[naive tundra]

Got it

[novel sky]

^ yeah that’s a great one too

[naive tundra]

I have this another problem where I spam abilities when they're on gcd

I think it's bad right?

You don't have time to react to situations and can accidentally use wrong ability

Especially with Feral, where every drop of energy is precious

@vale canyon I read through at least 3 guides and watched few feral pvp mains streamers and all of them use Night Fae

[vale canyon]

yeah for feral it seems NF is best but im wondering for resto :S

[naive tundra]

Ohhh I didn't notice "r"

sorry

[vale canyon]

convoke just dont seems consistent for def maybe a good dmg cd

no worries 🙂

[tidal linden]

whats the easier of the specs for arena?

[naive tundra]

Oh also another question, should I even use Thrash in pvp? I never see feral mains use it, unless it's a bg and they have 4+ people around them @novel sky @open verge

[patent cradle]

bear

[novel sky]

I don’t think thrash is worth it unless you’re padding damage but I’m an rdruid

[open verge]

you use thrash if you have the bite conduit @naive tundra or sometimes on multitarget

[naive tundra]

Got it!

@novel sky Is it Omnibar or OmniCC?

[novel sky]

Omnibar

[naive tundra]

Thanks!

[high valley]

heello everyone, u guys know a rdruid streaming arenas ? '-'

i didnt find any

[lime light]

eu servers kaput?

[lone trellis]

Feral Fr dispo?

[lime light]

?

kicked in the head?

[high valley]

?

idk, just a streamer =;

[stray sigil]

ur eu brain kaput @lime light

[lime light]

😳

polish server was down

[clear pulsar]

@high valley Minpojke/ FlopDru/ metaphorsx / luuxia

[oak canyon]

for feral its vers > mast>crit>haste? or vers> mast/crit > haste?

[regal roost]

i think vers and mast same tier

then haste

to a cap

[stray sigil]

vers > mas > crit > haste

[small storm]

what soulbind/cond u running fuji

[stray sigil]

🙂

[small storm]

oh ya ur simp

[stray sigil]

what are u playing

cuz im venthyr

kekw

[small storm]

[clear pulsar]

Fuji's ascended past simpness

[small storm]

no comment

[stray sigil]

say it to my fukin face

[small storm]

anti convoke yet goes venth brother

wowee

[stray sigil]

bro

[small storm]

NF tho

what u think

[stray sigil]

venthyr def pumps

[clear pulsar]

I'm saying you're better than that

[stray sigil]

people are sleeping on it

ull see

[clear pulsar]

You're not on the winter queen simp level anymore

[formal wave]

what the fuck are the ILVL you get from each ranking at end of the week?

great vault that is

[stray sigil]

i think u go dreamweaver bitch rn

so u can get

[clear pulsar]

207 - 213 - 220 - 226

[small storm]

revive

[stray sigil]

1 endurance 1 potency

[small storm]

with bug

[stray sigil]

@small storm

[formal wave]

213 being 1800 right

[clear pulsar]

Combatant - Challenger - Rival - Duelist

213 is challenger

[stray sigil]

mayb niya is better in 2s

cuz u can actually press convoke there

but in 3s the mas buff from niya dont matter

will never go above lik 3 without pressing convoke

and u can never convoke

so ya

[tidal linden]

whats the 1st leggy I should craft as rdruid?

[small storm]

true so basically i go frenzy regen one

[clear pulsar]

You can press convoke for the stacks tho

I mean

???

[small storm]

and TFB?

[clear pulsar]

That doesn't make any sense fuji

[stray sigil]

ya bite one and auto regen

[small storm]

or CI

[clear pulsar]

Just because convoke won't do anything doesn't mean you can't press it for 400 mastery

[small storm]

decent

[stray sigil]

i mean if u press convoke 2min for 400 mastery

kinda troll

[formal wave]

what cr is challanger again

[clear pulsar]

You literally said you can never press it

So???

Whatever

My guy's no good englando

[stray sigil]

ya im watching axtin play that shit

[clear pulsar]

It's all good

[stray sigil]

literally never presses convoke the whole game

or when he does

[small storm]

convoke is bait

[stray sigil]

insta kickd/ccd

literally awful spell in 3s

[clear pulsar]

Doesn't matter if it gets kicked

You get the mastery

As long as you use it to force a trinket

[stray sigil]

bruh

[clear pulsar]

It's fine

[stray sigil]

ur trading a 2min cd

for a 20s cd

lol

[clear pulsar]

For a trinket!?

[stray sigil]

who said they had to trinket in 3s

to stop ur convokes lol

[clear pulsar]

Smolbrain

[stray sigil]

have u played 3s face

[clear pulsar]

Bash maim cyclone bruh

Just triple cc ok?

JUST DO IT

[clear pulsar]

10 games

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

so ur telling me

[clear pulsar]

I ain't going into fucken 3s when game's the way it is

[stray sigil]

gotta do perfect cc

to get convoke off

but they can just trinket anyways

[clear pulsar]

Just farmed my ilvl upgrades in 2s

[stray sigil]

[formal wave]

who of you are doing this?

[stray sigil]

and convoke lines up with trinket everytime

literally dog

u will never get one off

if they have hands

guaranteed

[clear pulsar]

[formal wave]

what if its 3 convokes?

what will you do then

[stray sigil]

i predict 1 goes off

[clear pulsar]

Even in 2s tho

Convoke goes off

Throws wraths onto 3 pets

Uses trash, rake on everything around you

Big sad times

[stray sigil]

but venthyr blows cocks

[clear pulsar]

I played 40 games today and Convoke got me 2 kills total

[formal wave]

i always regret picking NF when I pvp but its so good in pve

[clear pulsar]

It's not that good in pve

[stray sigil]

only bad thing about venthyr

is the soulbinds

its pretty solid

other than that

[clear pulsar]

The top parses are obviously night fae cuz kyrian isn't shown as your own damage but your bonded partner's

But kyrian 100% better in aoe

[formal wave]

I also play bear in pve and its really good there

how high are your starsurges critting for?

[gusty phoenix]

am I suppose to be running sotf or tree for resto?

2's

[chrome panther]

tree

[clear pulsar]

The last traits on the venthyr soulbinds are pretty good

Or look good at least

[stray sigil]

ya draven and theotar have some good stuff

i just laugh when ppl say venthyr blows u can get ccd

[clear pulsar]

Looks kinda nice

But right now that'd be like a 2k shield only

[stray sigil]

theres a vers one on the right

and draven got some % agi one

[clear pulsar]

This one is bis tho

[stray sigil]

and u get 10% dr

ya but that bitch is bad

[clear pulsar]

Sucks that it's a bad path

[stray sigil]

1st soulbind wouldnt take

[clear pulsar]

Yeah 2 finesse

[gusty phoenix]

also do we run dreamweaver for pvp?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

The frenzied regen proc is too good

[stray sigil]

eys u do for the moment

until u get a endurance unlock on niya prob

[clear pulsar]

And cheat deat may win you a game or two

[stray sigil]

or the 3rd soulbin unlocks

3rd soulbind prob gonna be pretty good

[open verge]

venthyr LUL

[stray sigil]

with the 25% crit shit on opener

ya idk venthyr is def about as good as nf

[open verge]

how

[stray sigil]

just u wont auto win games cuz of convokes vs idiots

zerk is so fuckign insane atm

[open verge]

free stun on yourself and useless door do seem great cant lie

[stray sigil]

its really hard to go idle lol

like actually difficult

[open verge]

what if youre in cc

[stray sigil]

it doesnt do the dmg/stun in c

cc

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it doesn't count ccd time as idle

[stray sigil]

thats been buffed a whiole back

[open verge]

it pauses the countdown?

[stray sigil]

u will lose the buff shit sure

[open verge]

well then its not terrible

oh

[stray sigil]

but u wont get hit by dmg of it or the stun

[open verge]

you still lose it

[stray sigil]

i mean the cd still goes on

[open verge]

so Id say its much worse than NF

because as NF you can even bite twice in 0,5s

[clear pulsar]

For sure worse than night fae

Not even close

[open verge]

and this shit is just uselss

[stray sigil]

its much less niche than nf

[clear pulsar]

Fuji just trying to convince himself he isn't a clown

[stray sigil]

can actually get it off

[open verge]

🤡

[stray sigil]

def not as good in 2s

but in 3s prob better

cuz u can actually pres sit

[open verge]

wow such skill, can press it

[stray sigil]

and u have the added bonus of people not expecting a feral being venthyr

kek

[open verge]

talking some real 1500 strats right there

'people wont expect it'

[stray sigil]

people who bring up cr

usually are pretty big shitters themselves

care to link me ur char

[open verge]

im at 1700

[clear pulsar]

Soulshape is much better than door of shadows tho

Tbh

[stray sigil]

idk i like doors

[open verge]

you're the big theorycrafter

[stray sigil]

def grows on me

[open verge]

if you have to make best case scenarios where you can actually use your ability, that sounds like a bad ability

[chrome panther]

2s or 3s

[stray sigil]

imean i wouldnt bring up cr if ur 1700

but w.e floats ur boat

[chrome panther]

2s literally doesn't count 🤷

[stray sigil]

u can legit play

any cov and get glad

[chrome panther]

u float my boat fuji

play venthyr

[stray sigil]

if u cant its cuz u fucking suck lol

[chrome panther]

BREAK THE MOLD

[open verge]

ofc

just play what you want but youre making a shit case for it

so far

[hidden mortar]

did anyone buy a conquest piece of gear?

[stray sigil]

i mean if ur a 2s player (which i assume u are the way u speak) then go nf and dont think

[open verge]

im a casual old man who plays whatever

[devout frost]

This dude is worse at trolling than I am

[open verge]

no u

[devout frost]

I meant Fuji not u bb

[stray sigil]

ah its the 15 hero

15 r1

wannabe

can u go fuck off somewhere else brother

[fringe summit]

if i get 1800 rating then fall below 1800, do i still keep the upgraded gear from vault? Or do i need to finish the week on 1800+

[open verge]

fuji I really want to understand venthyr

im a trash player

[stray sigil]

literally using peoples name

[clear pulsar]

Fuji's definitely growing more problematic in his social isolation

[stray sigil]

for clout on a discord

@devout frost

[open verge]

imagine using half a brand name as your nick @stray sigil tsu

:>>

[stray sigil]

half brand

[clear pulsar]

For the week yes. The vault is based on your highest rating played at for the week. You can click on the great vault and it'll tell you what reward ilvl you're getting.

[stray sigil]

what the

[devout frost]

Offbrand Fiji

[stray sigil]

i dont even know what ur saying but ill take it

[open verge]

maybe fujitsu was only popular in 3rd world countries

[clear pulsar]

Another BR LEGEND?

[open verge]

so, tell me how would you play venthyr to its full potential in 3s

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

bro what the fuck are these clowns saying to me

[open verge]

if you can pump in it then its pretty great

but arent you gonna sit any cc during 20s

[clear pulsar]

Bro why is any of you still entertaining this conversation?

It's the pettiest I've ever seen fuji act

By a mile

[devout frost]

Cause he want to start shit

[clear pulsar]

And I thought it was well establish that venthyr isn't actually good

[open verge]

because he flexes rating :/

[stray sigil]

???

[devout frost]

And Ath like getting their hands dirty

[clear pulsar]

Fuji just thinks it's better than convoke doing nothing

[stray sigil]

ur literally the one

that brought up cr

LOl

[clear pulsar]

Which I mean, fair, convoke does nothing most of hte time, and venthyr might give you some 10% dmg buff on one go

[open verge]

yes, because ive never heard people will 'dont notice something' in high rating

people know whats going on usually

[stray sigil]

ya i mean uve never been in high rating so i get that

but people arent all geniuses up therelol

[open verge]

I mean maybe in your BFA glad times

I havent been there

[stray sigil]

here we go

[clear pulsar]

[austere star]

Is it worth crafting Timeworn Dreambinder on a Ring instead of vest?

[chrome panther]

no

never

[grim depot]

Looking to improve as Feral in PVP. Most guides I've seen only cover beginner stuff like talents etc. Any intermediate guides out there, or streamers/youtubers to check out that talk about what and why they do things in certain situations?

[austere star]

Chest it is then

[stray sigil]

@grim depot sifox streams a lot

and answers questions

[clear pulsar]

Syfoxe / tonyferalmovies / cassidy38 / snupy / axtin

[grim depot]

I'll check 'em out, thanks!

[open verge]

fuji you dont stream r1 plays?

[clear pulsar]

FormrageAU

[devout frost]

Jokes on u I was rank 1 2v2 back in vanilla

[stray sigil]

unironically formy streamed last night @clear pulsar

[open verge]

rank 1 is the lowest 😄

trololo

[devout frost]

And players in high ranks were really bad

:o)

[clear pulsar]

I was watching a few days ago

Tuesday I think

[stray sigil]

he was streaming some pve shit tho

kinda unforch

[clear pulsar]

He was playing jungle when I watched

LEGEND

[stray sigil]

with who ?

vital ?

[clear pulsar]

I dont fcken remember

[open verge]

how's jungle doing now?

[clear pulsar]

Not vital tho

The priest was oxygen

[stray sigil]

ya that i figured

[devout frost]

Mm pretty busted burst @open verge

[clear pulsar]

Feral + any busted spec is good

Just play any comp

[stray sigil]

ya feral sub is poggers

[clear pulsar]

Feral spr, feral arms, feral sub

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

Feral ret

[open verge]

yeah I need to find someone to my feral/disc

[clear pulsar]

Jungle

[open verge]

so I can push that 1600 cr

:))

[clear pulsar]

Feral fire

Do it

[stray sigil]

ur pretty dense face smfh

[open verge]

also big nerfs coming next week

[stray sigil]

yeah massive nerfs

humungus

[open verge]

-2% aura on sub

50% convoke nerf

[stray sigil]

yep def

[open verge]

Ravenous Frenzy now stuns the nearest target instead if you're idle for 2s

[clear pulsar]

I'm dense?

Motherfucker you're the one getting baited for 25 mins straight

By people 1000 rating below you

??????

[stray sigil]

ur just getting baited rn

[open verge]

fuji 2700 already?!

thats impressive

[languid knot]

ff or moc for feral pvp?

[stray sigil]

ff

[hoary valley]

ff

[stray sigil]

can go bt if u like it

[lime light]

Fuji is a kid

no flame

[stray sigil]

fight me fukin ruski boi

[rare drift]

hiya, question for necro chicken is the same talents as the ping?

[chrome panther]

necro boomie?

why the fuk would you do that to yourself

[open verge]

bad for pve bad for pvp

[rare drift]

cuz im main necrobaer

[chrome panther]

reroll kyrian cuz its good for bear in pve too

[rare drift]

im a proud necrobaer

u kyrians will never understand the feeling of have your owns abominations

xD

[chrome panther]

the talents wont change based on cov

[rare drift]

thx varugh

[open verge]

who has managed to reach 2k this season?

[regal roost]

convoke is getting nerfed?

[feral drift]

I dont have friends

[regal roost]

source?

[rare drift]

i just reach lv15 honour

just a few moments ago

😄

[open verge]

gratz

[languid knot]

do weekly pvp quests dissapear with a new week if i dont hand in?

[open verge]

yes

[rare drift]

i wish i can mount as baer

question, do this week has AOO quest? i havent seen it

[languid knot]

is there still a marco for in out of cat form?

[lime light]

@stray sigil u are a pajac

[stray sigil]

wtf is a pajac

[lime light]

that is u?

[languid knot]

so when i get rooted i can click to go in and out of catform quick

[rare drift]

for what i be hear swithform has a internal cd

[clear pulsar]

Only EU alliance. Not in NA, and not for Horde.

[stray sigil]

i feel like i dont get u tianton

[clear pulsar]

Power shifting is not a thing anymore

[stray sigil]

chimp boi

[open verge]

@languid knot going to caster form triggers gcd on your form

[lime light]

Pajac

[stray sigil]

u pajac

[rare drift]

thx moonfire

necromoonfire

necrofire, take a vicious slime as my thanks

[lime light]

lmao

[languid knot]

how people finding balance in arena?

[open verge]

well, usually they get out of stealth on their own

[languid knot]

haha

just woundering how they are compared to feral for pvp

[open verge]

theyre both good

[clear pulsar]

Both very good

[open verge]

different strokes for different folks

[rare drift]

yesterday i was with a random dh, he did 14k dmg, i did 7k dmg, the enemy were a rogue and a boomie, the rogue worked mostly on keeping us in stun while the boomie loaded a nuke and did 64k dmg in the same time, i tries to heal the dh but the boomie saw my intentions and blow me so fucking hard

after that i respect them and quite fear them if know what they doing it can be devastating

someday i may get a bit close to it but for now i too faaaaaaaaaaar away

saying that, i be found them more good that in bfa

btw the match last like 15 second if much

[open verge]

inb4 that was just an uninterrupted convoke

[rare drift]

maybe not sure, but was epic

hahahhaha a truck with a train behind

[open verge]

damn a boomie solo is so weak vs casters, isnt it

[clear pulsar]

What are you talking about

[open verge]

you can what, beam once every minute and then you're left with clone

just talking 1v1

[clear pulsar]

And bash and incap roar and frenzied regen and renewal

And 3 schools to cast from

Yeah

[open verge]

yeah you usually run mass ent tho

[clear pulsar]

In a 1v1?

Are you...

?

[open verge]

1v1 is when you have to 1v1 in a bg for example

[clear pulsar]

In a 1v1 vs a caster you usually run mass entanglement

Okie doke

[open verge]

not duels

[clear pulsar]

I don't know bro

You can't be sheeped by mages, hexed by shamans

[open verge]

yeah I just faced an affli and that was a poor experience

guess mobility is your biggest advantage there

[clear pulsar]

Try to get their hp to 0 before they get your hp to 0

It works tremendously

[open verge]

solid

[clear pulsar]

[ripe maple]

Will this macro work?

#showtooltip Solar Beam
/cast [target=arena1] Solar Beam
/cast [modifier:alt, @arena2] Solar Beam

Basically I want to cast solar beam when i press my keybind on arena target 1 and if i press alt it will cast it on arena target 2?

[stray sigil]

tf does an aff do to boomy

u can just spam dispell agony

heal their shit dmg

idk

[clear pulsar]

It won't

/cast [@arena1,nomod]solar beam
/cast [@arena2,mod:alt]solar beam

[ripe maple]

Oh ok, thank you @clear pulsar

[patent cradle]

bleh if im going for a defensive trinket i might as well go bargast leash

[clear pulsar]

Yeah that trinket isnt worth

It's less damage than badge on a longer cd

[open verge]

and without set bonus for trinkets

[gleaming knoll]

any ferals wanna do 2's for grease or 3's

[forest kite]

Anyone run nightfae on rdruid

[winter spindle]

Double dps is pretty much meta right now, especially with two hybrids their healing is insane

In 2s*

Healers literally get globaled

[clear pulsar]

I dont think u are using 'literally' or 'globaled' correctly

[open verge]

yeah I mean healer dps is still easier climb I feel like

you have to peel

[waxen karma]

And pop all ur defensives

Live lord that shit

I’m still having good goes with convoke at 2k

Loving it

[open verge]

thats good to know, but its 2s I imagine?

[waxen karma]

No. 3s

[open verge]

interesting, how do you pull this off

[slow quiver]

who wants to watch me pvp and tell me why i suck

[tepid spoke]

get 1800 this week before they nerf convoke

[slow quiver]

im pvping in resto

convoke is ok

[tepid spoke]

its literally broken in moonkin

[slow quiver]

do i go bal aff?

[tepid spoke]

nah

healers suck this week

unless you are disc priest

[slow quiver]

guardian then

[tepid spoke]

if you wanna pvp as resto just wait til hotfixes

cause damage is stupid

[slow quiver]

ive been having some thorns do 25k dmg in one cast

[primal granite]

i dont like convoke for resto. i play necrolord its op

and will be even stronger when we get the cc imunity

[wanton quail]

can someone help me find a decent boomkin guide?

[slow quiver]

why is my vision obscured on my ally

i dont see any rogue cloud

but there was a rogue

[waxen karma]

You play with a holy pally and get the kicks from the casters and the have him bop you and you pop off

Caster teams is a little harder. Los is your friend