really?
#pvp
fast swallow
lusty oar
chance to be crit reduced by 10%
desert anchor
lusty oar
troll probs
war stomp
just keep falling over with everything ticking on me through barskin NS heal the lot
fast swallow
do you get renewal
fast swallow
yeah use bearform
you have like 400 armor
bear is 1500
makes a difference against rouges
lusty oar
yeah its bloody 220% armor haha
lusty oar
like ive never healed always played dps so this is all new to me
fast swallow
unless they cloak
lusty oar
yeah always use thorns haha
fast swallow
you HAVE to trinket the first cheapshot if your not in bear
trinket -> bear -> thorns
lusty oar
just practicing in skirms and everyone just mongos onto people lol
lusty oar
yeah
fast swallow
i rarely ever die even to pally rouge
lusty oar
think my main problem is im so scared to keep hots up on everyone im never just sitting in bear form
then they go me
fast swallow
i can delay for a long time
if they're going on you then your teamates should be healthyish
pop all your defs on opener for sure against rouges
well honed instincts give a a free frenzied regen when below 40
so that can keep you alive until you get into bear form then you have another one
64% heal
if you get caught in normal form without trinket your dead
lusty oar
or a unholy dk and destro lock just one shots my dps 🙂 what a game
lusty oar
my little experience so far. No matter what hots i use etc everyone just dies through them
after my swiftmend, ns heal they die
vocal sequoia
fast swallow
guardian for sure so we dont get one shot by rouges lol
kyrian boomkin rouge in 2s is pretty heat
forest kite
abundance + germ any good in arena?
grave dawn
whats the goto leggo for balance atm? balance of all things?
main minnow
Yep, with boat and convoke if you don't get kicked you can kill 2 people with 1 button press
Reliably
winter spindle
Why does the honour badge give haste, but the conquest badge gives crit 🙄
zenith sedge
guys...how the fuck does anyone play resto in pvp right now, i feel like my heals don't do enough before someone dies
forest kite
necrolord vs night fae for resto?
might swap off night fae seems i just get interrupted every time i cas tit
keen vault
don't play night fae unless you are playing a caster comp as resto
you can get away with it if you are really good at juking or baiting kicks but it gets harder
ionic temple
might swap off night fae seems i just get interrupted every time i cas tit
Then you’re just bad at keeping track of kicks and stuns tbh or using your cc to convoke
I can get like 2 or 3 full convoke a in an arena
As feral though idk if you’re resto or what
forest kite
im resto as i said
forest kite
yes
winter spindle
I can get like 2 or 3 full convoke a in an arena
The people your playing against must be bad
forest kite
anything interrupts it is the problem
winter spindle
Are people spending conquest now or saving?
forest kite
if im against a rogue i have to track what 6 interrupts?
open verge
Cc rogue :d
empty venture
Druid has always been a good/good second flag carry in RBGs (after demon hunter). With DH getting more counters in SL, is there any recommendation for druid FC? Notably guardian spec FC vs guardian affinity FC (to dodge the pvp tank nerf). Is boom better at affinity tanking, or feral? Is the affinity legendary a waste of time anyway? Is this dynamic even still a thing nowaday or are oneshot just too present to even consider it?
(I don't really expect any guide to happen since it's niche content in a niche category of content, but I hoped some people would have insights to share ^^)
ionic temple
The people your playing against must be bad
Lol obviously I’m getting interrupted a bit but if you’re insta casting it instead of tactically using it you’re gonna have problems
empty venture
also I checked the pins and past discussions, any feral related guides and info in the work?
clear pulsar
There's a skill-capped vid on youtube
But it's not really fully accurate to what the top players are doing rn
Since it's from october
Mostly just the covenant part
Majority of players going Kyrian for pvp instead of Necrolord
forest kite
theres a wowhead one which is pretty updated
clear pulsar
Kinda
It still mentions essences in the talent breakdowns for instance
But yeah
It's good
Just ignore a few slips
empty venture
I see
forest kite
dont think it does anymore
jade coyote
does feral want vers/mastery or vers/crit? have seen both so far
jade coyote
doesnt seem that bad since they changed it in pvp. ill just get vers/mastery so I can tank in dungeons and maybe play some boomie if im bored
thanks 🙂
open verge
yeah people just repeat shit about crit, but I dont think it's that bad
you hit DR on mastery pretty fast
clear pulsar
True
strong spear
I am pretty much a guardian main, what should I try for pvp?
open verge
I only faced guardian once, he was with a hunter and I soloed them
but that was probably a pver
strong spear
So.. Suggestions lol
clear pulsar
Anything bro
I mean
Feral and boomie are both quite good rn
Resto not so much and if you're a first time healer in pvp you'll have a difficult time this season
Meta's very fast
tropic schooner
Just play guardian and bath in the hate whispers
fresh estuary
hi guys, a macro question for resto druid with feral aff: can i combine wild charge while on cat form with maim on my opponent? or do i need to click the macro twice?
clear pulsar
If you try to use maim at the same time as wild charge, you'll be out of range to maim
strong spear
Why would one get hate whispers as guardian
tardy hare
Cause neither you or the guardian dies
clear pulsar
Cuz generally tanks' implementation in pvp just make the game slower
forest kite
I'm about to 2v with a rogue, any tips about talents and pvp talents (i'm feral)
Got no trinket yet
queen drift
Which potency conduit are u guys using as resto for arenas?
mortal arch
2s with rogues are tough as feral. Experiment with taking Heart of the Wild and Resto affinity to try and survive until the enemy's defensive go down.
queen drift
Got no trinket yet
Best advice would be get a trinket
clear pulsar
Got no trinket yet
You can buy a trinket from boralus/zuldazar pvp vendor with marks of honor
Or just do a bg and get honor for a shadowlands ilvl one
It takes like 10 mins
forest kite
We'll prolly stomp low elo 2v can't i farm it there ?
So resto aff, should i go bt ?
Or ff ?
mortal arch
@forest kite Your biggest challenge will be that the enemy will immediately pop their defenses and try to burn one of you down. Some comps won't have the tools to stop you but if they can stop your initial burst is will be tough for you to drag the fight out long enough o get a second chance. So make sure not to get too tunnel visioned into dealing damage. You're incredibly squishy and a rogue can't protect you.
remote cave
Should we spend Conquest first week, or save as feral?
forest kite
Should i take thorn as a defensive cd ?
mortal arch
I'm saving for weapon first now that we don't have a min req for getting them
forest kite
Bear thorn with bark
mortal arch
I would take thorns and swap it out against ranged teams
open verge
no
open verge
you use shadowmeld for rake stun
clear pulsar
If it's double dps 2s you might want to tbh
open verge
its enough
clear pulsar
Games will end fast enough
forest kite
Shadowhat ?
open verge
night elf racial
forest kite
clear pulsar
With a sub rogue you won't get much use out of the extra stun but idk
open verge
well thats your choice 🙂
forest kite
Everything is wrong it seems
I'm nf
I won't be able to bait their kick
To convoc
solid nova
How essential is pvp gear for pvp? I had a bunch of the blue pvp gear but I vendored it as soon as I started getting mythic gear, but I'm worried that without all the versatility I'm going to be basically useless. I seem to just explode from burst dmg currently.
limpid kraken
@solid nova Vers feels really good imo. Imo the honor gear is worth sticking around as you can upgrade it fairly easily up to 184 now
as feral, sitting right at 28-29k hp, i feel decently tanky as long as I'm pressing my defensives correctly
184ilvl
open verge
why did you vendor it ;d
solid nova
I thought it was going to be like BfA where mythic gear was better
limpid kraken
well theres no scaling, so ilvl has a bigger adv than from Bfa. But yeh vers is such a strong stat for pvp and needed to really up that survivability
theres some good pve gear with vers, i dont want to dog it
and high ilvl gear isn't bad by any means in comparison. i just think trying to find equivilent gear w/ vers is much worthwhile
solid nova
Ok thanks, I'll try do an item restore for it.
fading copper
What legendary do you run for balance pvp?
open verge
most run dreambinder, some boat
fading copper
@open verge thanks
tulip pelican
Is the Oath of the helder druid legendary good in pvp for guardian/rdruid ?
mortal arch
If you use it well it can be amazing. But if you don't make use of it, then you are better off using something that gives you more of a passive boost.
It has more potential for DPS specs to have stronger support utility but a tank or healer can make use of it if you work with your DPS to burst your team's target.
haughty compass
Venthyr guardian + incarn on an alt is good fun
candid condor
Healing in PvP feels bad. Should I level my 54 paladin to play with a warrior friend or just stick through the rough times..?
teal ledge
slap the berserk legendary on top of that
regal roost
clear pulsar
Yeah but then you'd have to actually craft the berserk legendary
Which is a yikes
When fury remembered exists, and natural order's
This ofc assuming you arent a complete degen that literally only plays pvp guardian
teal ledge
hmm I only played skirms but on my guardian but thrash did very little damage, the most damage came from moonfire. Not sure i'd go for 2 thrash legendaries on guardian
im not actually maining guardian so keep that in mind
clear pulsar
Well
I say this trying to keep in mind that
People who play guardian in pvp are just pveers trying to have some fun with their main spec
Not really guardian pvpers per se
And so you would be putting soul ash into the good guardian pve legendaries first
swift sphinx
how is balance in PvP
clear pulsar
Very good
The balance spec that is
The overall balance of the game is iffy
But the balance spec is very good, so is feral
swift sphinx
nice
I have a hard time surviving
i am getting trained by stune/melees, how can I get away to do some deeps
swift sphinx
im getting killed in bear
clear pulsar
I'm not rly a boomie player
But I think it's much easier to give pointed advice if you can record games and show the videos to people
swift sphinx
yeah should do that
clear pulsar
We have a resident boomie rank 1 (very much washed up but helpful guy)
clear pulsar
It's all necrolord
Minpojke / flopdru
Gorecki sometimes plays rdru
But pojke and flop stream all the time
crimson hound
ive not catched pojken pvp once since season 1 started
ill check the rest tho, cheers
crimson hound
he plays cyberpunk?
clear pulsar
LOL
crimson hound
dying irl
hoary ledge
lime light
enh has something like bop
it replaces his wall also
lower its cd to 45 sec
but he cant attack
and he is immune to physcial damgur
its an honor talent
empty venture
does it dispell physical status effect too? (bleeds, kidney, blind, etc...)
haughty compass
Will we be able to get previous weeks conquest?
haughty compass
Cool
supple path
Conquest is a seasonal cap that raises weekly
open fable
Hey guys, Newbie here, just started playing feral druid and I am absolutelly loving it, what do you think is better, should I buy something with my 550 conquest now or should I collect enough for the weapon?
chrome panther
save
heavy cairn
Pray to the gods a weapon drops from your great vault
chrome panther
in a month or two fill in slots with conquest
open fable
so will the conquest items be BiS for pvp?
chrome panther
depends on your spec. for resto, all of the haste/vers pieces are joocy
sand spade
If I played Boomy with SP, would it still be Kyrian FOE dreambinder? Or would you go solstice and faster ticks?
chrome panther
prolly the former, the meta is still pretty fast
open fable
depends on your spec. for resto, all of the haste/vers pieces are *joocy*
im feral
chrome panther
and boomie dots tickle
sand spade
Good to know, thanks
chrome panther
both ways of playing the comp work tho
and with how likely starsurge is to be nerfed at some point in pvp, good to learn the rot playstyle now
empty knoll
what type of drink i can use on arena?
lime light
without alcohol
chrome panther
Azurebloom tea
sick fiber
If you miss a week of pvp conquest cap.. Is there a catch up active?
lime light
X * 550
is your perma cap
X is a ssn week
so if we are on 3rd week
3*550
is your total cap u can get
sick fiber
Ok thank you
open verge
consider this a seasonal cap and not a weekly cap
sick fiber
Ok thanks
open verge
no, you!
chrome panther
so play it better
queen drift
Ima go necrolord
open verge
go the worst one, sure 😄
queen drift
I play with war/dk
chrome panther
playing zugzug
queen drift
Yeah kyrian is good too
chrome panther
yikes
queen drift
yeah im resto
little forum
Is boomy just flying under the radar atm? In both 2s and 3s the things that I’m doing to people is pure filth. I’ve never seen anything this broken in my life
fierce ocean
hope so cause im getting my boomie legendary now
haughty compass
Yea it’s pretty nutty
little forum
Literally just cc one, bash someone and convoke to insta gib 1-2 people
And if that’s a problem just bank AP enter boat and use 3-4 surges back to back
fierce ocean
boat?
hollow junco
2's boomy is disgusting rn. Even without convoke or boat (kyrian/timeworn) I'm racing my sub rogue to see which of us can one shot someone first
fervent imp
so we have a 550 cap but if i return the quest, will my points be deleted or added to my 550?
cold linden
also confused on leggos
queen drift
any rdruid tried necrolord for arena? how is it
fervent imp
okok thanks
fierce ocean
anyone know?
hollow junco
It's preference, many people are happy with either one
fierce ocean
oh right
hollow junco
You can build 2x R1 and try it yourself at this point
fierce ocean
I don't understand how people are getting 4-5 starsurgews with boat though
it's obvious with timeworn
haughty compass
I’ll probably go boat with convoke and timeworn with Kyrian
fervent imp
as rdrood in 2v/3v is that better to run with Gladiator's Medallion Corrupted Gladiator's Relentless Brooch ?
haughty compass
Boat is cool because you just build ap then hit eclipse and triple surge crit
mystic vault
Just wondering if there are any high rated ferals here?
keen sphinx
previous seasons but not currently only 1800, maybe I can help?
heavy cairn
@fervent imp always medallion
hazy bear
clear pulsar
sweet yoke
yo guys
Is the 220 vault item unlocked as soon as u hit 1800 or do you have to win within rival bracket
open verge
It's based on the win in the bracket iirc
You can check your PvP tab and it will tell you what rewards you'll get I think
Or visit GV
tardy hare
The moment you hit 1800 counts as the win in rival
forest kite
Yes
obtuse ice
yes I am garbage?
obtuse ice
doesnt change
daring canyon
I think I saw some youtube video stating Feral was the best Torghast spec
obtuse ice
i'm gettig os by elite
open verge
dunno just convoke and win
novel sky
Resto has like half hp elites
And with one or two damage powers you can just aoe everything down
open verge
layer1?!
obtuse ice
floor 1 mb
open verge
oh, of layer6?
odd matrix
Any tips for beating DKS/rets
odd matrix
I convoked a DK and he lost zero hp
open verge
elites should have like 130k hp tops
unique forge
Torghast as guardian or resto. It's So damn easy.
novel sky
^
unique forge
Guardian starts off slow, but once you start collecting those powers it's a smoke show
novel sky
I get a few good damage powers then just sneak through
I started a floor off with permanent hotw and it was gg
It’s like playing feral but everything has 50% less hp
Lol
forest kite
Anyone knows the Torghast wing rotation? I missed on Soulforges for my leggo.
fervent imp
@heavy cairn thanks a lot for the previous answer
clear pulsar
Anyone knows the Torghast wing rotation? I missed on Soulforges for my leggo.
It's just a 3 week cycle, if it's not random then Soulforges comes back around next week
obtuse ice
what ilvl are u
open verge
I dont think we have vers mast weapon
spark nacelle
Yea I didn't see anything that's why I'm confused haha
haughty compass
Cleared both 6s just fine
Night fae chxiken op
Treants and cast while running trivialize it pretty hard
open verge
im 184 fuck pve
clear pulsar
I did both 6s with my resto set on by mistake
forest kite
@clear pulsar 👍 ty
open verge
no
obtuse ice
or? or pure garbnage player
clear pulsar
Grab the good powers that buff your regrowth for instance
open verge
do you use regrowth
clear pulsar
Yeah just be patient, pull slow if you need to, kite to heal if it's an elite that's taking a while
open verge
he's venthyr
clear pulsar
You don't have to kill everything
open verge
yeah most are a waste of time
clear pulsar
But also just try to like
obtuse ice
I get
clear pulsar
Moonfire a small mob nearby see if it pulls one of the big guys and not the other
obtuse ice
oneshotted
open verge
I first rush through see if I can kill the boss insta
haughty compass
You can generally pull small groups at a time lol. I’m kinda surprised people are struggling, maybe I’m just being an asshole
obtuse ice
yeye
stray sigil
remi is noob
keen vault
I got nearly "graped" in 6 coldheart torghast
apparently if you take entangling roots it is totally useless against the boss, which boomkins struggle to interrupt after it gets 10 stacks
obtuse ice
dude
keen vault
reset the fight like 10 times, had to do a nearly perfect pull
obtuse ice
I wanna end my life
I need to study
but blizzard
wants me
want
spend
3hrs
in
A FUN CONTENT
keen vault
you don't need to cap your ash
swift sphinx
I get rekt by elemental shaman
i cant cast anything cause they interupt/stun/cc
how am i suppose to play vs the,
stray sigil
yup fucking baguette
craggy geyser
Trying out resto druid for the first time and the class has way to many buttons
How am I supposed to fit everything in 
stray sigil
@clear pulsar is there a cap to renown catchup ? im stuck at 5 no more quests nothing
well 4 actually
stone nest
Yeah so flourish is way better than double rejuv
chrome panther
nah
stone nest
Another oh shit button.
fading iris
will the pvp gear from weekly vault be upgradable with honor?
tulip pelican
if you have the rank
clear pulsar
My guy out here playing flourish in pvp
stone nest
I’m just playing around with it
clear pulsar
@stray sigil no idea i havent rerolled
stone nest
Cenarion ward and flourish is a pretty decent oh shit if swiftmend and NS is down
fading iris
if you have the rank
but that would make gearing with pvp way to easy, just cap your weekly honor and get the most expensive item from the vault every time
and one day you hit 2100 and BOOM full 226 gear
tulip pelican
you have the pvp rank
clear pulsar
What do you think will happen?
open verge
this is exactly what you can do
clear pulsar
People can literally spam m+ for 207 ilvl next week
chrome panther
its a good thing
tulip pelican
you need to be 2100 to get best gear
fading iris
pve people cannot upgrade their items what they get from vault
chrome panther
some people are already in the 200s from spamming keys
boo hoo
fuck em
go farm m+
clear pulsar
I swear like
tulip pelican
no they cant, but M+ as a scalling difficulty/reward
clear pulsar
People dont understand the systems and come up with the craziest issues
fading iris
i mean, right now its hard to get 2100, but in a month it will be a joke
clear pulsar
Im gonna let u guys sort it out
tulip pelican
in 1 month, the M+ scene will be fully geared way ahead of you
fading iris
they are playing all day that is the difference
open verge
is a1 really saying that pvp gearing is too easy? 😄
sleek basalt
best 2v2 or 3v3 comp for boomy?
chrome panther
rogue/boom/heals
fading iris
yeah rated then, actually you only need 1250 honor
wintry osprey
Sorry if this has been asked before, but are they any good items we can buy with conquest points this week?
fading iris
yeah well its so easy to get 3 choices you would be stupid not to farm 6k honor
chrome panther
yeah, just liek youd be stupid not to do 10 M+ runs
both probably take the same time tbh
fading iris
i hope you are right
chrome panther
i am right
fading iris
and we will be able to upgrade the items from vault
chrome panther
thanks for coming to my ted talk 
stone nest
Why would you buy a weapon?
fringe summit
Any1 know if Tuft of the smoldering plume works in pvp?
stone nest
It’s easier to go to a m+ and get a weapon vs the cost of the weapon compared to gear
chrome panther
the same could be argued for every piece
fringe summit
argument would be pieces cost 1/3rd of the price
novel sky
m+ drop rates are abyssmal
chrome panther
^
novel sky
i did 8 m+ this week and got 1 item
chrome panther
actually tilting how bad it is
novel sky
and it was a ring
chrome panther
ive done 15 runs between 8-10 and i've seen 1 drop
novel sky
m+ is awful compared to pvp gearing
heavy cairn
They reduced loot a lot
In the long run pvp gear gearing is great just a little throttled at first
novel sky
not even gonna bother with m+ tbh
chrome panther
if you stack armor types its not awful but my team isn't gonna reroll all leather
novel sky
just gonna do it later to get the 15 cheevos
heavy cairn
A lot of ppl aren’t stacking armor types
If you get a weapon from the vault you basically win the gearing system
stone nest
3ish pieces vs 1. Personally I’m not spending the conquest on a weapon when I could have upgraded 3 items by then
heavy cairn
And can pick and choose pieces after
fringe summit
but the weapon stats account for the 3 extra pieces @stone nest
novel sky
im gonna see what I get in my vault and make a decision next week
fringe summit
so unless you just want the ivl that argument is invalid
novel sky
pvp gearing feels great once you've done m+ though
stone nest
Is there somewhere I can see the comparison?
fading iris
buy rings and trinkets with conquest, pick expensive items in vault
stone nest
Do not buy a trinket with conquest
fading iris
why?
stone nest
The pvp trinkets are mainly for functionality which you get from the regular honor vendor
fading iris
true, maybe the non medallion one then only
hollow atlas
In my mythic we had a lock go afk for 25 minutes and his buddy said “ he will be back really soon don’t worry” comes back for last boss and gets the only item that drops....
novel sky
many such cases
fringe summit
oh no
novel sky
lol
hollow atlas
And he got the only loot
novel sky
tbh i don't even see the point of slamming m+ rn anyway
even with pvp stats youll be able to smash keys in 226 gear
novel sky
oh totally, i agree
heavy cairn
You don’t really have to PvE honestly getting a weapon would be nice and you might be a slight disadvantage at first but you’ll get pieces every week + vault reward and you’ll farm ilvl easily with conquest gear
novel sky
it just feels incredibly unrewarding compared to pvp gearing
upgradeable gear is so nice
fading iris
it sounds too nice to be true
heavy cairn
Well you can test it for yourself lol
hollow atlas
I will run mythics in a week or two for my vers mastery weapon and that’s it
fading iris
where do you get your information that it will be upgradable?
heavy cairn
the expansion is literally out lol
You can buy a conquest item and upgrade it with honor
hollow atlas
^
heavy cairn
For rival you can upgrade it to 220
fading iris
yes but the vault item might be not the same unranked ilvl 200 item
heavy cairn
It’ll be rating based
fading iris
it might just be a random ilvl 200 item
heavy cairn
No it’s not
The info is out there the vault is based on rating
If I get duelist my vault pvp reward will be 226. With a maximum of 3 rewards
fading iris
yes its tied to the rating, but some people here are saying that the item you get from the vault is going to be upradable with honor
open verge
people literally have gotten a piece from great vault dude
and were ablet o upgrade it
on beta
fading iris
lets say now you are a filthy unranked scum, but next week you get duelist
open verge
just get real
heavy cairn
Then u can upgrade it with honor still
If you are unfamiliar with how the system works I’d highly recommend watching a short video
heavy cairn
I.e, if I get to 1200 I will get an unranked piece of gear from the vault. If I then grind rating to duelist I will be able to upgrade it to duelist
obtuse ice
wooooooooooouhouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
heavy cairn
You don’t need to the info is out there but you are welcome
Enjoy the PvP gear my friend
fading iris
xD
open verge
thats good because youre never behind
heavy cairn
The weekly quests give honor and conquest too it’s a really nice system
fading iris
yeah
its kinda unbelivable
i dont really want to play with resto druid in this warrior rogue meta
heavy cairn
I will say
I wish honor gear was at a lower renown for next upgrade. Next one is at renown 22
Which feels like a long ways away
But aside from that the system is REALLY good
novel sky
1250, 2k, 3200, 5150 I think
devout frost
@heavy cairn honor gear is like that so it can act as catch up gear later into the patch
heavy cairn
Either way I’m very happy as someone who mainly does arena now
Honestly it’s been sick buying all PvP pieces and targeting stats and upgrading it lol. Can’t wait for a week weeks of vault + buying conquest gear
brave shuttle
Does conq cap increase with rating or is it just 550 per week?
obtuse ice
550 per week
remote cave
What is best lego piece to purchase for feral? Not the memory, the piece of gear.
novel sky
Generally it’s the item slot with the most stats
forest kite
Looks like ppl mostly went for the head piece.
molten cloud
It honestly feels awful as a pve only player that gearing via pvp is about 10x better
limpid kraken
but its not tho
molten cloud
As a healer/tank main pvp fucking sucks. Cant run guardian, cant do resto in 2s and healer in bgs is obnoxious
Yes it is
molten cloud
I've done over 10 m+, all my mythic lockout 3 weeks, and like 30 heroics
And I still have 155 pieces
I could have had like all 180+ just from pvp in half the time
stone nest
You can run resto in 2s?
forest kite
Wdym, most of my guild is pve and they’re 180+ and running Nathria while I have just over 170 going pure pvp route.
molten cloud
Cant in skirmishes at least?
They're probably investing more time or getting lucky
Only 3 dungeons can even drop a necklace from a single boss, its wack
stone nest
Resto does good damage as boomie or feral aff. Just need the well honed conduit and it gets better.
limpid kraken
sounds pretty unlucky. and getting a few pieces from pvp to fill out your missing peices is ezpz to do honestly
molten cloud
Healers arent allowed to queue for arena 2 (at least skitmishes?)
forest kite
Yup, just q in epics
limpid kraken
just do the daily bgs for anima
and youll have plenty of honor
the oribos pvp quests are really nice too
stone nest
Bgs give good honor if you are going for the base honor gear. Have to do rated for conquest.
molten cloud
But you have to actually win. I feel like I have so little impact in bgs as healer because I cant do objectives by myself
tawny raven
Ashran quest gives you 1000 honor for completing
forest kite
I got almost 2k in single Ashran with the fragments quest 😄
forest kite
On another note it’s perfectly fine to most of the playerbase when pvpers have to suffer through pve zzz-fest like the last xpac.
I hate that mentality.
chrome panther
pve robots can't comprehend pvp 🤷
and pvpers have been used to doing pve on the side for years
forest kite
I know, that’s why I have such a love and hate relationship with the game 😄
molten cloud
Yeah, I hate that either side should be doing the other on the side. It's bad game design imo
forest kite
Agreed.
molten cloud
If you want to, it should be easy, but having it be super impactful outside it's own game mode is just dumb >:(
violet kernel
is there any good Balance streamers?
stone nest
Well they are going for engagement metrics. So having everyone do everything is good for the shareholder meetings.
forest kite
Yeah but it made me quit the game multiple times and I’m sure I’m not the only one.
Let me just love this game Blizzard 😄 I’ve got many fond memories, mostly from private servers though, I felt more free there.
stone nest
I don’t see the issue pve gear isn’t game changing in pvp. Probably has lower vers. It’s not like pvp gear has the perfect stats for all specs and classes for pve. People are just chasing ilvl.
subtle prairie
which legendary is best for balance?
stuck belfry
is feral frenzy always the best pvp talent?
spiral jacinth
when is next symmetry rotation?(feral pvp leggo)
austere belfry
As feral lads, do i go agi over vers? and if so how much more aghi should it be? ty
open verge
so im at 1,7 now, how do you guys handle rsham teams in 2s?
I find them annoying somehow
open verge
lul
stone nest
They just don’t die
jaunty heart
is the conquest cap staying at 550
open verge
yes
jaunty heart
or does that change with rating
stone nest
Nope 550 every week
jaunty heart
yikes
stone nest
That’s why we don’t buy trinkets
devout frost
550 this week,
1100 next week etc
stone nest
That’s 550 this week. And additional 550 the next week but it’s capped at 550 and doesn’t reset if you spend it.
onyx tide
what is it that makes some balance druids burst 40k+ dmg in arenas on the opening? 10k+ starsuge etc.. is it some legendary or something that makes it so good?
open verge
convoke perhaps?
onyx tide
ye but what are they popping to do that much dmg.. cause when i do i hit nothing close at all xD
devout frost
are you using boat
onyx tide
boat?
devout frost
a new moon in boat window is 35k dmg
open verge
balance of all things - legendary
stone nest
Which oddly enough, may not be balanced lol
open verge
does anyone know ash cost for leggo upgrades?
devout frost
1250, 2000, 3200, 5150
stone nest
I think to upgrade to the second level is 750 but I could be wrong
devout frost
Yes 2000 - 1250 is indeed 750
open verge
thanks girl
stone nest
Basic math is fun
devout frost
u can yeah
obtuse ice
that means... antoehr togeast ruN??.?......
obtuse ice
duuuude....
devout frost
next week on is 1140 ash/week
sinful canyon
whats the best feral soulbind for pvp?
haughty compass
Timeworn on Kyrian prob as boomkin
open verge
depends what cov
sinful canyon
ah shit
open verge
im currently running NF and dreamweaver
open verge
it's great, you get a potency, endurance, slow after stuns
and a podtender which is still ridiculous
at shit cr its won me some games
people either dont know how to target it/cant outdmg the healing
imho it shouldnt be healable
fallow root
I’m struggling against in arena went 3 and 11 in 3v3 the whole enemy would just zug zug me and ignore my team mates
open verge
as resto?
fallow root
So I’m running away in bear until I die
fallow root
No boomkin has
As boomkin *
The games we did win I just focused on doing damage instead of setting up clones and cc
onyx tide
so what do you guys go in arena's ? what spec is most viable for high push
chrome panther
whatever you have the most fun playing.
narrow barn
high push? not boomkin
thorny pawn
hey guys, do you use the Sephuz leg for resto pvp and if you do, which piece do you put it on ?
narrow barn
then again, literally any spec can get a close to global as is so
ivory delta
Sorry, I know its probably been asked 1000 times, but what legendary are pvp restos running?
fallow root
Yeah in my limited experience as boomkin you just get tunneled down and blown up
narrow barn
having a blast bopping in bgs tho 👌
fallow root
Lots of sub rogues and rets, they just pop immunities and tunnel the squishy guy
tepid nimbus
Are most PVP druids saving for Verdants or are alot of people rocking Dark Titan?
open verge
im hoping for some tuning next week
fallow root
It is fun 3 shotting someone with starsurge
Tried feral but I don’t “get” it just yet
onyx tide
zrip do you use macro to pop everything ? cause 1 of the druids i met i barely even see get out of stealth before he 3shotted me
stone nest
You have to trinket the rogue stun and roar. If you are running for your life you cyclone travel for and bail.
Gotta cyclone the ret when he pops wings.
But it’s hard
chrome panther
bark + healer external should be enough to survive opener
esp if your in bear already
fallow root
I was playing with a Prot Paladin and a BM hunter
Didn’t really get a lot of help in that department
stone nest
Prot pallys got dope healing atm
fallow root
No BoP heals or trap
chrome panther
yeah if your mates dont press their buttons
and the other team presses ALL their buttons
🤷
fallow root
Yeahhhhh I’m hoping to find an Spriest or Ele in LFG tonight
open verge
this doesnt seem like a good comp tbh
you need to get team where if they train you, the rest will make use of that
and not a useless bm hunter
if you're eu I can hop on my sp
stone nest
IMO you need a melee. Ret or arms. Spriest or lock in the other spot.
Gates are so handy for getting away from burst atm
tepid nimbus
What are you guys using for your resto pvp stat priority? Vers > Haste > Mastery > Crit??
Thats only obtainable later on when stats are higher yeah?
tepid nimbus
at 190 right now and only 15 % haste, wiht like 80% of my gear has haste secondary behind vers
vers at 22%
chrome panther
yeah dont stress about it, just focus on ilvl and avoid crit 🤷
stone nest
What weapon enchant do we use? Celestial still or is it different for pvp? For resto
novel sky
im using celestial since its cheap lol
chrome panther
still celestial
tepid nimbus
One more pvp resto druid question, are most people using the chest enchant +20 Intellect & 6% Mana? or what
stone nest
Most fights are short enough where I haven’t had to worry about mana
plucky patio
whats the first item you should buy with conquest btw
chrome panther
im running 30 all stats but i might go mana
viscid remnant
Which covenant are you guys taking for resto ?
chrome panther
necrolord will be the way to go once gamepace slows down.
im nf because i like having fun
stone nest
^^
viscid remnant
Ogey seems good
wanton path
hey guys - stupid question but if i play guardian in pve, is there something that'll be easier to gear in pvp (like feral) or am i equally screwed either way?
jaunty heart
is this any good for 2s as resto
chrome panther
no
jaunty heart
or should i be using the double pvp trink for versa buff
chrome panther
use pvp trinks
jaunty heart
which is the best 2nd pvp trink
right now i have the haste + chance to increase int
devout frost
do u have medallion
craggy pier
Guys how viable is Full Moon currently for PVP??
Damn is its damage good at least?
Ye that's fair. I like to try and burst in 1 go.
Don't know what class to play but am planning moon boomy
past marsh
what do you guys think the bis boomkin legendary is for pvp?
jaunty heart
I’m all about them passives. I was running the same, just wasn’t sure about the steady haste vs int
I just blame my dps if I die
livid wasp
how do you deal with rsham/warrior
cant really attack shaman cause he outranges disc
and he keeps spamming dispel if I leave him be
as feral/disc
or do I just lose
woeful burrow
Nothing on druid!? Nice😍 love my 1shot boomy
stone nest
I don’t think 4% will bring rsham in line but it’s something.
livid wasp
Blizzard
For example, in PvP, we're looking into specializations that may have some high-damage conditions.
Again, we'll update you as soon as we're set on adjustments to that.
obtuse ice
true
woeful burrow
Nooo, don't nerf our convoke 😥
stone nest
Dumb if they do. Feral is in melee and can get interrupted and boomie can be lossed
livid wasp
stop justifying it, its stupid
stone nest
Justifying what?
livid wasp
convokes STUPIDness
woeful burrow
Yeah I agree that it is a very strong ability but it is all or nothing, high rating no 1 will let it go off. U will get cc/interrupted and then it's 0 damage compared to all other covenant that is guaranteed damage boost etc
stone nest
I don’t think anyone can argue it’s very easy to counter.
livid wasp
feral one sure
but moonkin ability is something that will get you to gladiator
easily
people arent so good that they take it into account
like rank 1 ones do
in a perfect way
well this one is a lot harder
tiny oar
Ppl will just trinket kick or line or dr stun instantly
woeful burrow
Harder, it's interupted by everything
pallid coral
kinda feel like your scenario is getting more and more complicated here
harsh wigeon
You're really reaching to say that Convoke is hard to interrupt when it's coming from a Boomkin
livid wasp
yes there are many scenarios
tiny oar
Worst case u trade a cd for it and they live the whole thing easily
woeful burrow
But I think convoke will get nerfed by not being able to proc full moon if not talented or something
woeful burrow
I'm currently at 1600 rating and i already see lots that save their interupt/cc for my convoke. It's not rocket science
harsh wigeon
What legendary are pvp ferals running for the most part?
woeful burrow
Tiger fury giving you 2 combo points for finishing abilities i think, forgot the name of it
harsh wigeon
Fearful Symmetry, thank you
stone nest
You can make a scenario for anything to happen. Imagine a ret hojing me and popping wings while my trinket is on cd and dropping me. Don’t put yourself in a situation where you can’t los a boomie. Easy.
harsh wigeon
Good call, didn't even think to do that
obtuse ice
tiny oar
I miss ur old profile pic @obtuse ice
obtuse ice
@tiny oar witch one
livid wasp
still some covenant ability shouldnt be such a big deal imo
obtuse ice
O ye just the previous?
livid wasp
some of them are so broken for some classes
stone nest
Imagined getting punished for messing up in arenas lol
obtuse ice
There is more important than convoke rn
livid wasp
imagine being like oh, hes not night fae its ok
obtuse ice
Nerf bs rogues and ww and ret and war
slow quiver
stone nest
Imagine being like oh he’s assassination not sub.
Obviously there’s better specs and abilities people should be aware of
tiny oar
Yea its nature @slow quiver
static spruce
I have a question re: feral survival in arenas atm.... I am just getting gimped left right and centre in every single stun over 3 seconds... and against a rogue, I pre-bear'd his cheap shot, barked, trinketed the kidney and survival instincts and thorns up, and he is at 90% and Im dead within a global
Sure, there are times vs. other classes where I dont get the pre-bear, so thats on me to be better.... but there just seems to be nothing I can do
And sure, I get that rogues are OPaf at the moment, but when I blow literally everything and die, either there has to be something I am doing wrong because there are clearly ferals that are doing well despite this meta, or idk... I have 2400xp and am really not enjoying this glass cannon aspect of play
livid wasp
I think its best to wait till major nerfs on maintenance day and then start wondering whats going on
noble holly
Can swarm break a poly?
rigid linden
So instead of wasting every defensive just trinket the first stun and meld take stun him
Cenarius
If yr horde I can't help u there tho LOL
Also wtf are Ur arena partners doing while Ur stunned
static spruce
yeah horde
static spruce
Ive trinketted and bashed
but then they trinket that
stun me again
and im dead
static spruce
so I tried bashing, then vortex and blink away
to LoS the stop
step*
but he just sprints and does it anwyays
rigid linden
Honestly trinket bash is the right move but rogues just fucked atm
static spruce
yeah
tiny oar
Its ruff out there homie
static spruce
Like, I get that 2400 in BFA is pretty shit compared to the 3700 inflation etc
but when I blow literally everytyhing and it doesnt matter
vs. a pally just bubble and "lol"
or a rogue cloak/evasion
rigid linden
Still wondering wtf Ur partner is doing tho bahah
I played feral enhance last night and just insta open on rogue and peel for my boy
static spruce
one was busy dying without turtling lol
I do need teammates who peel more effectively for me
thats true
re: legos -- fearful symm seems real strong -- but since you cant live long enough to even take advantage.... 😐
apex maybe for lucky RNG...
stone nest
When they trinket the bash can you roar?
static spruce
I could take guardian aff instead of resto (havent since 6% less dmg taken does fuck all -- so I would rather have a chance at a full SW insta heal)
and then roar into a clone
and then gtfo there lol
stone nest
If you go hotw you get an extra frenzy regen and you don’t lose the bash stun cause of roar but id play around with it. Just throwing ideas out there
wanton parcel
Any balance pvp'ers here? I know it's real early in the xpac/season but I'm wondering how yall are enjoying the class? I am a DK main and was leveling up a druid atm with balance in mind
Mainly want to do 3's as balance with some rbg mixed in
winter spindle
Any balance pvp'ers here? I know it's real early in the xpac/season but I'm wond...
Ok - balance is good, especially in 3’s mainly due to how good their burst is. Timeworn dreambinder is your go to legendary, this makes us a 1 minute class however we can kill a healer in a root beam/stun combo. I’ve been playing balance / rsham and with sky fury you can get 16k sky fury crits
Also I’ve found that BFA glads are actually trash
heady fog
isnt the burst potential a lot higher with boat+nighfae, or is it to inconsistent with interrupts/stuns?
winter spindle
If you see a proto drake glad mount don’t be scared they’re probably bad
chrome panther
nightfae isn't consistant. Kyr is better in pretty much all scenarios.
winter spindle
isnt the burst potential a lot higher with boat+nighfae, or is it to inconsisten...
Boat is so inconsistent, night fae is also terrible
chrome panther
Convoke is very random with boomkin also
heady fog
Ok, felt insanely good for me yesterday in 2s, but I can see a problem vs actually good players.
winter spindle
Boat is bad because after incarn burst you are relying on eclipse bursts
junior plover
winter spindle
Where as dream binder you can burst anywhere in an eclipse window