Is NF good for pvp?
#pvp
open verge
you can cheese some games, but it's worse on a boomie than kyrian imho
split lava
Others didn't really come.up
open verge
but if you dont want to go kyrian
hoary ledge
For right now yes imo
Especially in a casual setting, players won’t be as focused on holding stops for convoke
split lava
Hmmm also sounds appealing indeed
Thanks for helping!
Think the build I mentioned previously is straight up bad? Or won't it matter too much in a more casual setting
The synergy on paper sounds amazing, but apparently the numbers aren't there to make it worth it thus far
hoary ledge
Won’t matter too much in a casual setting
split lava
Fair!
hoary ledge
That build will scale into the game
queen drift
necrolord rdruids, what conduits and soulbind are you using for arenas?
hallow vortex
hey what lego would yall recommend for rdruid, focusing on twos at first
chrome panther
oath or verdant.
hallow vortex
damn, im a necro oath is the HotW one right? I feel like if i was playing night fae that would have more value.
im tempted to craft the double lifebloom and run photo but idk if that will really work in this meta
tiny oar
Nah defo need germ every game and maintaining 2 blooms just sounds kinda clunky and mana taxing
Oath is affinity bonus and hotw tho yea, debating either that or sephuz
hallow vortex
ahh, is mana a high concern at the moment? games are fast as fuck (or is this just that taxing that even with 1 min games its terribad)
<- mains disc, burns da mana
chrome panther
yea
im usually dry by 7 mins
tried photo with dark titan, doesn't output enough compared to germ
tiny oar
Ehh most of my 2s were like 2-5ish mins so keeping up 2 blooms sounds horrible and you'd want them always up and being used otherwise its just a waste of a lego slot anyways
chrome panther
2s 🤣
but no srsly photo sounds cool and is way more interesting than germ
but it just doesnt perform from what i felt
if they buff DTL back up to beta-levels it might work though
tiny oar
Yea like if ur fighting a zug zug 3s cleave that's got tunnel vision on ur mage photo DTL just ain't gonna b enough atm
hallow vortex
kk i really appreciate the input guys
tiny oar
warrior + dk puts out like 10k dps
Ya its ruff out there vs some shit I might just craft oath for guardian aff 3s while I wait 4 verdant tbh. double frenzy every minute + well honed instincts sounds pretty fucking solid into melee zugers.
obtuse ice
devout frost
I'm kyrian
proud of u
obtuse ice
No
tiny oar
woow
Just another kyrian simp nothing new here mdr
Me n formy will be the last fae of shadowlands
chrome panther
fae boi reporting in
just convoked some poor ret behind a pillar after i faked his kick
tiny oar
Nice work very good
Even bear aff no hotw convoke is decent dam if ur in cat form
Still get like 4 bites usually
lime sparrow
hi, my rl friend is a resto druid. What class should I play so we can viably do 2s and 3s together? we have another dh friend
tiny oar
For 2s rdruid can play with anything pretty much. 3s with a dh ur best bet would probably be a warrior or DK @lime sparrow
languid laurel
What up, what talents are you going for in RBG's?
livid wasp
that macro not working for me for some reason 😦
chrome panther
What up, what talents are you going for in RBG's?
for what spec
languid laurel
Sorry, balance
languid laurel
That's what i'm going for, thanks a bunch 😄
I'm guessing Moonkin aura, crescent burn and Celestial guardian?
for pvp talents
chrome panther
burn is garb, youll be tabbing and multidotting 99% of the time anyways
languid laurel
true, Dying stars then?
chrome panther
dying stars or thorns
chrome panther
if the other team is melee heavy
thorns slaps rn
but expect rbgs to be 1 vdh, 3 healers, and 6 boomkins rn
languid laurel
oh damn, im in a random group with 4 melee, 2 ranged :i
chrome panther
pugs will pug, i just mean super srs neckbeard RBGs
languid laurel
oh thats's great, shouldn't be too hard to find someone who needs a boomy then 😄
open verge
feral wont get nerfed
small storm
i hope u are right
tiny oar
If feral gets nerfed be4 sub rogues I'll uninstall the video game
lime light
Night' fae op
rancid pebble
Not sure about op when it can get shut down with any cc
forest kite
^
clear pulsar
Me n formy will be the last fae of shadowlands
I got ur back bro
tiny oar
Thx f2f
radiant delta
for feral, should i use 200 conquest for TfB or save for trinket/main armor piece?
novel sky
Getting the honor for the vault rewards is much easier than I thought
tall flicker
Would bear/mage work for 2’s?
patent dove
No
exotic elbow
What’s best weapon enchant for feral PvP? Celestial?
small storm
@radiant delta if u are someone that runs m+, just spam +7 sanguine depths
if not, probably sim the dps gain of each of that conduit upgrade vs a gear upgrade
and u can break it down to dps per currency (even tho something with low % procs may look better on paper)
forest kite
Whats the best bg strat for ferals?
open verge
respec boomie
open verge
yeah I love it and wouldnt respec, but if you want to rbg there's probably not manypeople who'd take a feral over rogue
in random bgs just do whatever
jaunty heart
resto 2v2 w/out a legendary. talk to me. can i make it to 1800?
forest kite
I have to play boomie for rbg? :(
jaunty heart
i fucked up and got luffa's for pve, now i want UFR so i'm gonna make it rain on that runecarver
but wont have enough ash for resto
well shit i didnt realize we can't get verdant yet
has that boss even made an appearance yet
open verge
nol
jaunty heart
well that makes the decision easy then lol. i'm dumb af
open verge
but honestly I think people overestimated RBGs
you get rated honor pretty fast when you rank
for the weekly vault
ebon vine
Hey guys anyone have any specific builds/tips etc for resto in battlegrounds? Just started out and really enjoying it. Just wondering if there's anything g specifically I should be doing
chrome panther
DTL even without photo is "ok"
most of my 3s games are going into healers running dry so the mad clearcast procs is nice
craggy geyser
How do you guys manage needing so many keybinds for resto
Everything gets even more fucked up when I want a whole different ui for pve and pvp
open verge
12btn mouse 12345 qertfgzxcv with shift/ctrl/alt should be enough
naive hornet
Best covenant for balance in pvp?
open verge
kyrian
stone nest
Arms is slapping so hard
stone nest
I may go boomie in stead of resto. It feels like I can’t keep up atm.
craggy geyser
How would I manage having mouse over macros for pve and targeted for pvp?
dusty tiger
stone nest
Boomie is pumping so hard rn. I think I’ll give it a try
open verge
what cr are you on rn jay
stone nest
I got to 1.7 and couldnt keep up with the burst. But I’m new and probably suck lol
open verge
rdruid and what?
stone nest
I was running 3s with ret and rogue. I climbed to 1.7 with shadow ret.
open verge
i hate rogues
stone nest
But I saw some big dick mass entangle warrior spin to win that I was to try
hollow atlas
Really enjoying “the faster pace right now” kappa
novel sky
I hate warriors more than rogues rn
stone nest
Agreed
Atm it feels like hots aren’t enough and if swiftmend is down it’s gg during those bursts.
What pvp talents are people running against wars?
hollow atlas
That’s not my POV
open verge
but nothing there
hollow atlas
I’m the resto Druid
open verge
ah
hollow atlas
That boomkin is solo globaling those people
open verge
yeah
hollow atlas
I’m just rake stun into bash to keep in beam
novel sky
That’s so funny
stone nest
That’s hilarious
open verge
music helps too, so silly :
novel sky
Convoke is really fun in 2s
hollow atlas
Yea basically just have one person keep them in solar beam then convoke. We globaled every healer in the game even paladins. They die before they realize something is hitting them. Even had one game where convoke procced a full moon on a r sham and warriors stacked and the convoke killed them both in 0.5 seconds. Same time both bars just went black
queen drift
Is adaptive swarm that good for rdruids?
hollow atlas
@queen drift once burst is toned down it will be yes as it increases mastery.
In the current meta no it’s horrid
queen drift
Yeah lol
hollow atlas
Rogue boomkin is the bees knees right now
Sap blind player 2
Cheap shot beam kidney the kill
Over 100%
hollow atlas
Inb4 these boomkins 2500 rating and get nerfed and then have to use their 1300 skill to fight glads
clear pulsar
In the current meta no it’s horrid
This would imply any of the covenants is better than necrolord tho
Necro is best rn and will keep being best if nothing changes tuning wise
hollow atlas
For resto for sure
hollow atlas
I’m basically saying swarm is not that noticeable Atm
clear pulsar
20% buff to healing is huge, and it affects Regrowth's instant heal portion also
hollow atlas
When u die in a global
What is healing at all
But yes as we get gear it should be awesome
normal tide
So how do you survive 2 rogues in your ass as a boomie lol
grand geyser
Restos, what enchants are y’all using? I can’t seem to find any good information yet on the big sites
last trout
does the weapon affect feral autoattackdmg?
clear pulsar
Sure!?
jaunty heart
i wrote it down this time
lol
btw the meat satchel adventures arent worth
5 stack of common mean
0 shadowy shank boiz
open verge
how much ash should we have in total this week?
devout frost
1790
open verge
well I guess it depends if youve done the command q
devout frost
without table
devout frost
1840 if u got the early 50 extra
thats the calcs from just the torghast layers + 3 bolvar quests + intro quests @clear pulsar
Pre this reset we thought it would be 1490 but since new jaina torghast quests was up we got +300
patent cradle
nerf condemn kthx
hoary ledge
does anybody know what % the DR kicks in for secondary stats?
specifically haste /vers
chrome panther
So how do you survive 2 rogues in your ass as a boomie lol
press thorns, bark, hop into bear.
stone nest
Any good resto streamers?
novel sky
i watch minpojke, flopdru, and mmarkers
open verge
ez life
lime light
working 12hrs in my office
monkaS
i wish i could q
all day long
and jerk off
meanwhile
stone nest
So are people running florish? I’m watching some of these guys you said and he’s talking about it
devout frost
@lime light me with m+
small storm
its so free
forest kite
Is everybody full boomkin right now? Nobody feral?
open verge
im feral
small storm
most are feral
open verge
ferals play, boomkins whine
open verge
1,7
forest kite
Solid
lusty plinth
double dps feral?
normal tide
Feels like that right now, I’m carried by convoke
forest kite
I want to learn feral pvp .. currently im 55 and doing bgs and guardian dungeons for instant invites.. but man feral is crushing in bgs
open verge
dunno when I bg during lvling it feels like that witha ny class tbh
people suck
you get hyped up and then get crushed by good players (sub rogues) in the arena
but I feel feral is really strong, despite my lack of skill
lime light
split tulip
Guys, I am looking for some feedback on the Oath of the elder druid. Is it that bad? I am looking for a decent multi-purpose legendary feral/guardian m+/pvp (playing druid for fun alt)
acoustic nebula
does anybody know what % the DR kicks in for secondary stats?
According to https://wow.gamepedia.com/Combat_rating_system#Combat_Ratings , after % 'from equipment'
tardy hare
thats me
open verge
do you queue @vestal citrus
open verge
ive heard the trinkets are still busted
forest kite
dunno when I bg during lvling it feels like that witha ny class tbh
Are you nightfae?
open verge
yes
chrome panther
i cant wait to see all the rogue glads this season
lime light
make it 80%
open verge
big brain tian
chrome panther
make it
lime light
yes
chrome panther
unusable
chrome panther
literally remove pve trinkets from pvp
lime light
no
chrome panther
yes
lime light
thats wrong
lime light
u just make it
neon juniper
how should one play against shadowplay as boomkin?
lime light
not op, and not mandatory
chrome panther
make it a redacted word trap
open verge
why not queue boomie?!
open verge
1200mmr issues right there
lime light
thats my dream
chrome panther
idk whats more tilting
mdps from lfg in 2s
or doing 11 +7s and only getting 1 piece of loot
forest kite
Hahahaha
timid jay
Is Boat best for arena?
chrome panther
dreambinder imo
lime light
its 11:30 pm
forest kite
Guys I need some opinions, how about doing pvp stuff as ferak with pvp gear and tanking m+/raiding with pvp gear?
I mean both favour versa, is that not great?
forest kite
So my plan is not that stupid as it sounds right?
neon juniper
thank you very much
forest kite
Or is there something i missed
acoustic nebula
Versa mastery for Bal druid 🥰
forest kite
S2g means?
forest kite
Ahh thx haha
Makes sense
So basically i could rotate the shit out of my druid with pvp feral/balance and pve tank with the same gear haha
Nightfae ofc haha
Okay i plan to feral/guardian but boomy would be just the cherry on top for the memes 1 shots
We all get screwed over by the nerf bat i swear haha
Convoke is just a meme rn
Yes its so fun to play
forest kite
I started my shadowpriest at the beginning of sl and then saw a feral bg video on youtube .. i thought lol you are joking?!!
open verge
its funny because feral is just not suited for bgs
tardy hare
thats a lie!!!
devout frost
wdym feral is great for bg who else is gonna carry flag 
tardy hare
i'll be invited soon enough
limpid kraken
it pubstomps pretty well lol but not rbgs
jaunty heart
How are restos doing in 2s currently
devout frost
fine i guess
a lot of ppl doing double dps cause early rating
hard to survive rogues 🙂
chrome panther
once you learn how to survive its pretty troll vs all the double dps mongos
1-1500 was pretty much free wins against mdps killing themselves on thorns while my arms warrior spun ontop of me 🤷
^^ people sleep on master shapeshifter
open verge
warrior abuser!
chrome panther
but -10% to be crit is so strong rn
devout frost
warr abuser zz
chrome panther
fuck yes we gonna abuse the fuck out of sweeping strikes, bladestorm, spear, and unhinged leggo
lime light
no WAYYYYYYYYY
open verge
so you cant really find upgrades to the conduits from pvp right?
so you gotta pve anyway
bs
forest kite
Is guardian viable tank? Sorry off topic i stop with this question, no follow up
remote parcel
anyone knows the best legendaries for boomies?
devout frost
pins @remote parcel
forest kite
Nice thx 4 info whats the name? Wanna look at talents and stuff
chrome panther
guardian is low dmg but stupid stupid tuff
rustic pawn
is there water i can currently drink in arena other then mage food?
open verge
yeah Ill try pugging, and pugs might just not take a feral anyway
chrome panther
standing in shit is usually a death sentence but my usual group was doing 8s with a 161 tank
open verge
can you spam the same level over and over?
chrome panther
theres no lockout but you get a new key every time right
remote parcel
inkeeper
open verge
can somebody confirm if you need to have guardian loot set for the frenzied regen conduit? It doesnt seem so in the adventure guide
devout frost
u dont
brisk pumice
u dont
chrome panther
6 is 197 =p
brisk pumice
ive gotten it as balance
tardy hare
hell yeah
open verge
maybe its just easier to go resto for m+? 🤔
chrome panther
idk
open verge
wait when do you get the items 😐 by the end of the m+
lavish halo
Hey guys wanted to get some thoughts, I will be doing 3v3 with a Frost DK and I am torn between Balance or Feral, what would you recommend?
open verge
eh I cant do it, fuck it ill survive without pve
sinful nova
is it worth to switch to night fae for boomy in pvp if im already max kyriian
stone nest
Isn’t kyrian better?
lavish halo
I should also mention I am NF for my covenant
stone nest
Balance is crazy atm
sinful nova
i heard theyre pretty even but NF with boat is crazy burst
small storm
feral queuing with sub
open verge
people have troubles stopping a feral alone
if sub just ccs the other boy oh boy
I queued with assa once and it was awful, some diehard assa fan
lavish halo
So @open verge you think Feral is decent right now?
lavish halo
I wont be aiming for 2k+ anyway, will be casual 3v3
small storm
feral is so good
lavish halo
Hmm okay, thanks for your thoughts! might stick to Balance in random epics etc and do Feral for arenas then
open verge
high skill ceiling
small storm
both are good in both
open verge
feels like boomie is so much easier and boring
stone nest
Boomies can legit one shot. Not like 10 abilities in quick succession but like 25k in one go.
open verge
I mean its pretty the same as triple bite tbh
stone nest
I feel like more things have to go right for feral than for boomie
open verge
kind of, but the difference is, feral is still pumping after the go
and boomie just jizzes and gotta recover
chrome panther
thats sadly been boomie for the last decade
chill in bear till its go time
if go doesnt = win, chill in bear
open verge
yeah, I mean its not bad
chrome panther
But you get to go every minute now so
lavish halo
Its like a back and forth between the two, interesting thoughts on them
open verge
for me in theory they were both appealing but when you play its a totally different thing
stone nest
I mean it’s nice that a class has a viable melee and a viable range
open verge
and a healer!
chrome panther
all 4specs are great rn, for once.
lavish halo
I think I would prefer Feral in the long run, more of a melee guy
harsh jasper
haiiiiiiii guys
errrrrrr
kitties
I got a question cause I R dumb
So I picked up the quest Observing Arenas
and when I finished it, I had already capped Conquest like, twice over.........
so if I turn it in I will lose my Conquest........
100 that is
Yea but if I dont turn it in, Ill lose the 100
exactly
exactly
so its a shitty quest
lol
well
not shitty , but I cant get 1/3 of the awards
no the 100 conquest
500 anima, 500 honor, and 100 conquest
is the reward
jaunty obsidian
oath of the elder druid good legendary for feral?
chrome panther
symmetry .
jaunty obsidian
what about resto?
open verge
@harsh jasper just forget the conquest, you naturally cap
That's for people who don't rank
harsh jasper
Thats what I thought, but is it ever mathematically possible to get the 100 conquest? Even if you lost your way to 1500 honor it seems like you would complete the quest lol, or do you not get conquest for losing ?
stone nest
Does the honor from the quest count as rated honor for vault reward?
brisk pumice
Im playing boomkin. Do you think i would do best with MMhunter, BMhutner or Retri?
brisk pumice
Allright cool ill try that
guess he could go holy or prot pala as well but double dps has been looking strong in the few games ive played
chrome panther
prot pal / balance might work fairly well.
brisk pumice
is the prot pala putting out any dmg or is he just there for utility?
gonna youtube and see if i can find some gameplay of it i guess
chrome panther
They do fairly good consistent damage, its not just the boomkin contributing to kills
brisk pumice
cool, ty
chrome panther
As the boomkin player though you'll need to get good at knowing how to play when focused.
brisk pumice
Yeah i guess ill have to learn the hard way. not like they will sit on the prot ^^
novel sky
Idk I faced a few prot Paladins and they kinda tickle
lethal heart
hey guys, im starting a team with a couple friends and im new to pvp. Whats better for 2v2s and why, feral or boomkin?
i rather play boomkin but idk if its good enough
boreal coral
rn i prefer boomy because getting close to unholy, ret, rogue, feels like a death sentence
winter spindle
Im playing boomkin. Do you think i would do best with MMhunter, BMhutner or Retr...
MM
fleet panther
can you only collect 550 conquest per week or is it like...550 spend some and earn more?
fleet panther
gotcha ty
guess i'll save it for a weapon or something better than accessories
I wonder if I should save my honor then too...because that upgrades conquest gear?
vague cave
any clue how to unlock Eye of Fearful Symmetry?
crisp cedar
If I am capped on conquest 550/550 this week, but I have a quest I could turn in worth 100, should I just save until next week?
Or should I just turn it in for the other rewards and there will be another one next week to replace it
tender bluff
I think it will disappear after the week.
frozen rain
what legendary is looking best for balance pvp?
awesome ty
i figured dreambinder but saw some using pulsar
stray sigil
vers > mas > crit > haste
frozen rain
how about for balance?
sweet yoke
vers > haste > mastery pretty sure
frozen rain
ty
hasty abyss
NIght Fae or Kyrian
brave vortex
as feral if i have to pick between haste and crit gear which do i do?
stray sigil
crit
hasty abyss
For feral go Vers > Mastery > Crit > Haste
Big question is Night Fae or Kyrian, I am Night Fae right now and its great, but would love to know the snyergy of Kyrian
brave vortex
im a fae boy I like it
round yew
fae all the wae
misty tundra
I'm trying to play boomkin on PvP, but I tank M+ regularly. I picked Venthyr as my covenant, should I really be swapping to nightfae if I want to compete ?
naive tundra
Is it better to take clearcasting talent for a new player in pvp? rather than two others that are a bit more complicated?
vague cave
is there any way to get eye of fearful symmetry this week?
hasty abyss
Fuji, gas pedal in the opener in the beginning
sweet yoke
any feral with convoke around 2k xp wanna push boomy/feral 2s?
stray sigil
@hasty abyss ya big dam
tiny oar
x fucking d
forest kite
Massive Druid nerds incoming
This is unacceptable. Druids should not be better than locks
dreamy hornet
Hey guys!
What happened to the CC diminish rerturns?
I keep getting chain cc'ed.
Got a full 5 secs fear into a full 3 secs stormbolt.
sonic mortar
Thoughts on boomy/warrior/rsham?
stray sigil
@dreamy hornet those r 2 different drs my man
dreamy hornet
Thanks!
burnt grove
Seems like the swiftmend lego is the way to go for resto pvp yeah?
or circle seems good
bummer that its on a world boss, figure thats atleast another week out
unless someone has a calendar?
heady vessel
30 second arena skirmish
forest kite
somebody didn't kick convoke
heady vessel
they did not, no, ppl in skirmishes aren't very clever
forest kite
🤔 maybe I should do that weekly then
ionic temple
Jeez I must try boomy
forest kite
which zandalari troll loa would work best in arenas? Or are they just insignificant
for boomy
clear pulsar
They're very minor, I'd just stick to the one that's best in pve, probably crit proc
When I was zandalari I rocked with the bwonsamdi one that also heals you, it's soooooo tiny
forest kite
yeah crit is, the bwonsamdi one looked interesting extra shadow damage and healed for the damage done
naive tundra
How do I beat healers as feral? It seems like they outheal any damage I deal
forest kite
only other one would be krag'wa
increasing surviability when you're target seems useful
health/armor
clear pulsar
If you don't pve at all I'd honestly pick the movement speed one
I don't remember if it's nerfed in arena tho
gleaming knoll
what feral legendary has everyone been using for pvp
clear pulsar
How do I beat healers as feral? It seems like they outheal any damage I deal
1v1 healers should be able to outheal every spec's consistent damage. In general you'll want to pool your cds for a big stun chain and burst them down fast. Stun, damage, chain another stun, interrupt if they're a spec that has to hard cast to heal, then cyclone them low if you didn't kill to wait for stun dr and kick cd to come back up, then go again.
You're most likely not gonna solo a healer tho if they know how to play their spec
clear pulsar
what feral legendary has everyone been using for pvp
Fearful symmetry. Few of us bought Apex, mostly cuz it's better in pve too.
gleaming knoll
yeah im on apex train
clear pulsar
Yeah it's hit or miss in arena
Most games it just doesn't get a chance to proc with how fast they are
naive tundra
why are people so mad at convoke? Just kick it
gleaming knoll
whos mad at convoke
queen copper
too hard apparently
naive tundra
Guy in @queen copper whispers
naive tundra
Also few people who messaged me about it as well
gleaming knoll
wow gamers who complain about abilities are cringe
tawdry burrow
Sup all new to feral, is there any good guides that I could get some basic info off of?
stone nest
Convoke takes a good set up or shit opponents to get off.
clear pulsar
Cuz BFA pace (esp season 2 and 3) was super slow and this is the fastest games in history, it's a big shift, people get upset
The game is a bit cringe rn
stone nest
As much as this doesn’t favor resto, which is my favorite, I’d much prefer this over ten minute games.
clear pulsar
I'm totally convinced Convoke is getting nerfed even tho it has super easy counterplay so I'm just trying to get some fun out of it until tuesday
Yeah for sure
stone nest
There’s a million counter plays to it
queen copper
20% pvp nerf
stone nest
I think they should wait to nerf things til mid season where the meta develops and people have geared.
clear pulsar
I think the pvp population will sink again if they don't do something about getting critted down in 2 globals 100-0
gleaming knoll
i think no ones opinions in here or anywhere really are gonna change the mind of whats gonna happen
queen copper
the random full moon probably needs to not happen
stone nest
True karn.
clear pulsar
Starsurge hits harder than Full Moon, I don't think that's something that needs to change tbh
stone nest
You can see the big plays coming though.
I will say I don’t think I’ve been able to beat a decent arms war as a resto.
clear pulsar
You can have your thoughts about how lower rated people should just git gud and how games look fun for the rank 1 streams yall watch, but ultimately the devs' goal is certainly to keep people playing, and if the feeling is that they can't play the game because a handful of specs kill them 100-0 on opener then it's 100% catching a nerf early
stone nest
Of anyone has any suggestions on how to handle them let me know.
I mean I’m shit and can still see wings getting popped or a rogue getting ready to pop everything.
stone nest
I’m not insulting anyone but there’s a lot of big things on the screen that tell you what’s coming. Im probably the worst one here that’s active in chat lol
fast swallow
i can survive fer forever in balance
with honed instincts guardian affinity renewal
fast swallow
they're not your responibility
clear pulsar
stone nest
I’m resto so yeah lol
clear pulsar
Everyone is your responsibility in arena
stone nest
Yeah I agree
clear pulsar
If you're boomie and you don't throw a single offheal at people you kinda clowning bro
stone nest
Even if your resto aff you can help
fast swallow
i mean if theres a rouge on you people need to peel for you
clear pulsar
Whenever I kill someone with convoke I insta shift out to throw out heals with the rest of the cast too
fast swallow
then you can help them
naive tundra
Also another question what is the tactic against tanky plate classes? do i just kite them?
clear pulsar
Offhealing gonna get nerfed
fast swallow
@naive tundra mass root, typhoon
stone nest
Dude if you can figure something out for arms let me know
fast swallow
bear incap roar -> clone -> heal
stone nest
Mass root for unholy works really well
fast swallow
need mass root for sure
naive tundra
Yeah but how do i deal damage? XD
stone nest
Pally you cyclone when wings pop
novel sky
Arms warriors feel p bad to face yeah
stone nest
The problem I’ve been having is they spear and spin to win the other 2 and do an insane amount of damage
I feel like it’s just a hard counter
clear pulsar
You just gotta dodge the spear then
fast swallow
against pallies you gotta take bash
stone nest
It’s bs that cyclone doesn’t effect them while they are spinning lol
fast swallow
warriors can be pretty hard though
when they spin go into bear and barkskin
then incap roar clone
make sure you're fakecasting too
stone nest
I need to work on the faking the interrupts
fast swallow
yeah its pretty essential
some people save them forever too
really annoying
yo has anyone been tried nightfae and kyrian? ive been nightfae for 2 weeks, and its fun but i feel like its not actually that great against good players and if they have pets or in 3s its really useless
how does kyrian do
phial is pretty sick too for the meta
split lava
@fast swallow oh boomkin yea? I'm in the same predicament kinda, leveling my Bdruid as we speak and I honestly have no idea which covenant to go for
NF seems good to cheese people that are too bad to pay attention to you, NL seems like good synergy but bad scaling/in practice, and Kyrian seems to be the overall best, but I like it the least hehe (class fantasy + Kyrian is ugh)
This is from information I've gathered, I'll be grinding my way to 60 today.. can't wait to try my hands at some Balance pvp
vague temple
NF is good, really good when they have no stops for convoke
it 1shots people as feral or boomie in a go / stun
at least that's my experience facing both and dying through bark without incarn up xD
split lava
Will NF be good in 2s regardless you think? If you just wait out cc and such
vague temple
In 2s ferals 1shot you in 2s with it
if you dont interrupt it they 100-0 ur heal in a stun
vague temple
balance idk, could be good if you coordinate cc
but since its ranged its a higher chance to break stuff like root beam by accidentally hitting rootbeam target no?
split lava
Yeah figured a combo with the sunbeam silence and mass entangle it can be disgusting
vague temple
unless it doesn't hit rootbeam target
split lava
Maybe yeah. Perhaps that Ursoc thing could be a fine addition? I'm thinking of trying Resto affinity
That should keep them in the sunbeam for long enough
vague temple
in 2s just play with something that can coordinate a stun on kill target as u rootbeam
e.g. pala
exotic wolf
@vague temple convoke will not break roots etc because convoke will not target cced targets
vague temple
sweet
split lava
But everyone seems to say Guardian is the clear cut best, so Ic? Not sure
vague temple
then its actually great
thhough to be honest I'm kinda struggling healing most matchups as a resto, anyone feeling resto healing is kinda weak rn?
exotic wolf
the hard thing about convoke as boomer is to setup properly so your convoke does dmg on the right target
split lava
So I'll have to sunbeam one, my friend will have to stun someone else and then popping Convoke would throw it at the stunned opponent?
novel sky
Yeah
split lava
Do you get benefits from convoke as in, do you get starpower point (forgot what it's called) for whatever abilities it uses?
exotic wolf
@vague temple it's not weak per se..
resto just shines a lot more in a slower meta.
If people get more health and the burst "maybe" slows down then druid will naturally rise
split lava
Yeap
novel sky
Rootbeam 1 target kill stunned target
vague temple
I just feel I don't do enough heal output in 2v2s to compete with other classes
Even hpalas outheal me so idk what I'm doing wrong
exotic wolf
every healer gets heart attacks coz health bars are so unstable
novel sky
Use your cooldowns liberally
vague temple
That I am
novel sky
You can’t afford to save anything in this meta
vague temple
Yeah that kinda sucks imo
split lava
I've been wanting to give resto affinity a go, but I feel like I'll just die instantly lol
novel sky
I kinda like the meta, faster paced games are pretty fun
Certain classes need just a slight tuning though
novel sky
Don’t even waste your time tbh
exotic wolf
wait until another class is op. then you see that class as 2s team ina rena
it's the same everytime
split lava
I'm sorry, I may have tried double rogue on my rogue :p that shit's actually disgusting
100% gonna get nerfed though so not worth my time practicing tbh
Like MM hunter, what is that shit
vague temple
Does anyone have any advice for rdru healing? I most of the time can't go for cyclone CC. So idk if I should just max range and pillar bot
exotic wolf
it already got and I think it will stay this way the next weeks
what does your partner play?
@vague temple
vague temple
Unh DK but I'm swapping as dk doesnt have kill potential to mbe warrior
I help with vortex and shit so that isnt a problem
exotic wolf
hm that's one comp I can't really give any advice.. I generally dislike playing with dks as resto.. dunno
If you have convoke I'd suggest trying to play the games very aggressive to pressure your opponents
this alone should make healing easier if they backup
but this only works until players get good
novel sky
I play 2s with a uh dk and yeah it’s tough this season haha
vague temple
What partner would you recommend insead of unh?
I could try something like elesham if they're still pogchamp
novel sky
Uh can work, we actually did good against rogue teams (not double obviously)
My unh got ams lego
Dunno if yours has it
He’s also necro for abom limb
vague temple
Ams lego is what my dude has too
But I feel like my unh has 0 kill potential so I wanna swap to something more bursty
novel sky
We set up some convoke kills a lot
vague temple
we don't have that kinda coordination sadly
exotic wolf
play more games
fast swallow
I feel like convoke takes too much setup to actually 1 shot someone with in boom in higher rating
exotic wolf
it comes with time
vague temple
I shalleth
novel sky
I do think unh takes a lot more work though
fast swallow
kyrian is more on demand
vague temple
may just play with arms or smthn kek
novel sky
It’s definitely not as bursty as other damage dealers
We have to oom disc priest teams
Lol
They’re so tanky
But I can’t die either
vague temple
kekdubs
fast swallow
think im gonna switch to kyrian seems way more consistent and better in general
novel sky
You’re feral right? Or boomy?
fast swallow
boomkin
novel sky
Yah it’s the better aoe choice
fast swallow
convoke just always hits random shit in arenas
split lava
Yea that phial seems crazy too as additional survivability. I mean, on top of what you already have
fast swallow
i already survive for so long. rogues havea hard time killing me. with phial it will be even better
i think feral convoke is better
split lava
How does guardian affinity 'function'? I'm currently trying resto aff but I'm still in the leveling process
You just go bear form to survive burst?
fast swallow
pretty much its jsut for frenzied regen
bear barkskin
honed instincts conduit
65% heal
with celestial guardian its like 80% lol
plus renewel
its honestly pretty insane
split lava
That sounds crazy yeah
Especially in the current meta where if you survive the first 30 seconds in a 2v2 you'll probably have a good chance of winning as boomkin
fast swallow
i play with a lock too so i get healthstones. so if you take kyrian you have 3 healthbars if you do your healing in bear
split lava
Goddamn
fast swallow
with celestial guardian
split lava
Yeah I'll likely play with pala, samesame
fast swallow
plus offheals are 20% better as well in bear with CG
im loving bookin so far with all the healing
split lava
Hmmm alright.
Btw @fast swallow , I was considering the legendary 'Circle of Life and Death' for increased HoT/DoT damage with the NL Covenant for synergy + barrier for survivability
fast swallow
dont
exotic wolf
I wonder how they tune come end of this ID
fast swallow
dots are dead
fast swallow
you either die or kill in the first min
split lava
Fair enough
fast swallow
MAYBE in 3s
im gonna go with dreambinder
in rbgs circle is probably pretty good
but your dots also fall off 25% faster
split lava
Yeah that seems like a bit of a double edged sword
But with the NL spell I figured it might deal some nasty DoT damage, but I heard the scaling is bad so that's kinda iffy
fast swallow
im gonna switch to kyrian tonight probably. dreambinder is a 3% dungeon drop tho :/
split lava
Oh god
fast swallow
yeah dots are meh. mostly for AP
split lava
Ahh ye
But cool! Might go Kyrian as well, thanks for the assistance
And guardian affinity hehe
Sounds nuts
Happy to have joined the Boomkin clan, balance druid's been a blast to level thus far
fast swallow
convoke just takes too much setup against good players imop
but im not a glad player so maybe im just bad
split lava
Nah I highly dislike relying on procs and randomness
So convoke sounds like a pain to use
Setup + actual luck involved to get the right procs
fast swallow
its not even procs it just never hits the right target
if your boomy
it hits everything in range
inclduing pets
its really fun to just bop people from stealth but competetive wise its meh
hasty ridge
ppl talk a lot about compet, but how many of you push more than 2k4?
if you dont, covenant will change nothing
queen copper
im gonna switch to kyrian tonight probably. dreambinder is a 3% dungeon drop tho...
id say its higher than that, remember wowhead is counting all classes for that info
fast swallow
id say its higher than that, remember wowhead is counting all classes for that i...
oh true
queen copper
took me about 6 runs iirc
fast swallow
if you dont, covenant will change nothing
dont think thats true at all
queen copper
inclduing pets
mass root everything u dont want convoked ez
hasty ridge
their is guy a 2k4 with every spec/fun build every season
fast swallow
yeah if your an amazing player it doesnt matter
split lava
That doesn't mean it's redundant
fast swallow
but if your not amazing then cov choice can definitly make that difference to help climb
split lava
I'm bad, if I were to go NF I might get some free wins with convoke but I also might rely on a shitty wincon more than if I were to go for Kyrian's consistency and actually improve
fast swallow
also i think you need to be a better player to use convoke properly if your opponents are even semi decent
i'm not 2k but i plan on pushing 1800-2k this season
hasty ridge
kyrian buff can be purged?
clear pulsar
Pls make necrolord scale to more than 2 targets so I can pick it and not feel like trash in m+
midnight yew
is feral good for rated pvp?
midnight yew
ive always played resto but wanna learn feral
clear pulsar
The one you like better
There's a significant enough difference between playing a caster and a melee
fast swallow
i like bleed style feral and i think its mostly bite now
clear pulsar
Feral's better/easier to work with cc that breaks, like mages and hunters
While boomie can pool more for on demand burst with like 5 starsurges straight when you have FoE up
Both are very good rn
I think boomie's more likely to catch a nerf than feral, mostly cuz of the 5 starsurges in a row thing
split lava
@hasty ridge kyrian buff can be purged? But doesn't take away from the increased survivability though right
hasty ridge
so kyrian best cause of a pot with 3min cd? xD
midnight yew
yo how hard is it to learn feral
fast swallow
def harder then boomkin
split lava
I mean, 50% HoT is pretty good with that soulbind thing
Esp with increased healing on Guardian
fast swallow
gotta be good at snapshotting
midnight yew
tight
fast swallow
takes alot of practice
clear pulsar
so kyrian best cause of a pot with 3min cd? xD
It's decidedly better and more impactful than soulshape
Not even close
clear pulsar
takes alot of practice
Bullshit
Anyone who tries to tell you feral's particularly harder than anything else is full of shit tbh
There is one snapshotting buff period
It's just tigers fury
fast swallow
Bullshit
yeah thats true. i used to play old feral. you can do alot of different shit in that tigers fury window
the skill ceiling is way higher for feral
split lava
Yeah that I agree with, I'm leveling my Druid even, and it already requires more thinking and it feels more versatile than my Mage, Priest and Rogue
fast swallow
gotta play smarter though in general cause you don't have bitch buttons like paladins
clear pulsar
Druid has a lot of cool buttons and your kit certainly has more depth than DH
But what doesnt?
Feral's not harder to play than most specs
split lava
I like the term bitch buttons
fast swallow
harder then assassination rouge
clear pulsar
It's just trying to boost your own ego or something when you play feral and act like it's harder
stray sigil
classes arent hard to play in general nowadays
midnight yew
well ill give it a shot tomorrow
stray sigil
but ferals abit different than most melees idk
fast swallow
idk learning feral takes long then learning other melees
completely different playstyle
obtuse ice
And strategy
vale oasis
feral pvp has never been easier than it is now atm
you literally just bite ya enemy to death
fast swallow
yeah now its all just bite and burst
vale oasis
if u fail u dot em up
fast swallow
i havent played feral that much this expac
midnight yew
should i stay night fae
vale oasis
idk, I like kyrian
fast swallow
i think NF is more viable for feral(?)
vale oasis
also night fae covenant will work less againts people who have a brain
fast swallow
but kyrian seems more consistant
manic arrow
Guys, would you recommend for Fae Boomy getting DB for RBG/3s? Looks like it might be not that good bg's comparing to CoLaD
fast swallow
doing skrims and bopping people from stealth with convoke is pretty fun
manic arrow
My question is about legendary ;P
vale oasis
i know, but i cant help you as i dont play balance im afraid
fast swallow
circle doesnt seem that good in this meta
vale oasis
oh circle seems absolute trash
manic arrow
Aha, thanks
fast swallow
probs pulsar or dreambinder is best
split lava
Dreambinder seems better for arena's though, right?
split lava
Yeah my legendary is still quite far away so I'll have some time
fast swallow
i gotta get the memory and ill be able to get it next week
sage ridge
Dreambinder seems better for arena's though, right?
def dreambinder
clear pulsar
i think NF is more viable for feral(?)
Night Fae definitely feels more reliable for feral than boomie as far as target selection and stuff
But most rank 1s and glads are obviously still picking Kyrian
sage ridge
maybe circle if you're playing a rot comp but dampening isnt really a thing rn anyway
clear pulsar
Kyrian's tremendous
fast swallow
fucking boomkin convoke targets stuff like a monkey throwing shit at a wall
i just switched to kyrian
clear pulsar
Yeah feral convoke only shoots out 3 or 4 wraths at most
So it'll generally hit whoever's in melee range the most
fast swallow
now i gotta fuckin farm renown again lmfao
safe heart
playing both feral and resto and love em both
fast swallow
also kyrian is good for pve which i do a bit
safe heart
also convoke is still pretty good choice for boths specs right
feels really good atleast
fast swallow
i get this bug pretty often with convoke where it just doesnt shoot anything
normally after i beam
split lava
Pity how Kyrian seems to be by far the best covenant for
Idk, the classes I play it seems
For rogue it's insane as well
fast swallow
yeah it kinda sucks
clear pulsar
Only in pvp realy
vague temple
playing with a ww now
clear pulsar
For rogue anyway
tiny oar
if ur not in combat it will only do healing spells @fast swallow might be that
sick latch
normally after i beam
if you root the target during the beam it won't shoot at it
jaunty heart
dumb question
when u upgrade an item with honor, it wont remove the enchantment will it
fast swallow
if you root the target during the beam it won't shoot at it
huh why? its shoots at the beamed boi when i target something else
sick latch
normally it won't shoot at the beamed boi if he is also rooted
it will try not to break cc
fast swallow
kind dumb lol it always breaks my beamed boi when im targeting his teamate
empty sentinel
stray sigil
@clear pulsar venthyr bis
clear pulsar
No 
fast swallow
it always yeets everything except my target lol
stray sigil
@clear pulsar ur just a hater ig
tiny oar
ha gottem
jaunty heart
im a little confused
so i can get up to ilvl 207 with 1400 rating- does that just mean i can upgrade a 200 piece
haughty compass
Finally got a few games in. Convoke as balance is Such a dice roll lol
stray sigil
@lime light 
lost raptor
so i can get up to ilvl 207 with 1400 rating- does that just mean i can upgrade ...
yeah
sly meteor
which dps is currently strong with rdruid in 2s?
lusty oar
Hi guys im trying to learn resto. Is it just because the seasons is fucked with everyone one shotting or am i bad. It seems i cannot survive against any melee. Rogues 100-20 out of a cheapshot
i have myself fully hotted but still fall over
fast swallow
try celestial alignment, well honed instincts
guardian affinity
celestial guardian
sorry
renewal
desert anchor
tauren or troll for feral pvp on horde side?
fast swallow
never fuckin die
lusty oar
celestial gaurdian? Thast not on the resto tree is it
fast swallow
pvp talent
lusty oar
or master shapeshifter you mean?
lusty oar
resto druid dont get that