pvp

[open verge]

we can test it out

[exotic wolf]

I this is true I kinda like and hate it at the same time

[open verge]

but yeah it would be more fair if it worked the way he's saying it

[exotic wolf]

nah

this means skillful players have more tools

[open verge]

but I dont think it is

[exotic wolf]

that's good

if you are not aware you get stomped.

[open verge]

imagine getting druid into stun>silence>mindgames

[devout frost]

i misunderstood question mb

[exotic wolf]

popping convoke, all topped and there comes a mind games

[open verge]

yeah but it has a cap on what it can exchange to dmg

over all ppl its not much

[exotic wolf]

oh nice

[open verge]

lets say if its 6k for 6ppl its just 2k each

not really something to worry about

[exotic wolf]

so the dangerous moments will be under pressure to see it coming

else you assist killing their kill target

[open verge]

yeah

so it matters the most when its focused dmg/healing

[exotic wolf]

I swear to god, if they keep this up this expansion could really be one of the best

[open verge]

if anything hots might help you, because the debuff is distributed across all teammates

[devout frost]

mindgames actually busted tho so salt

[exotic wolf]

my biggest fear for arenas is actually caster cleaves like shadow/boomer

I bet they nerf rogue/mm but boomer is lowkey op

they're under the radar

and I'm waiting for the frenzied regen conduit getting nerfed

way too strong. loving it

[open verge]

it is, also very low ICD

[exotic wolf]

let's see if the meta stays this bursty. I'll probably won't craft the swiftmend legendary first and go for the bear "Natural Order"

I also do not think that some higher ilvl will stop the immense burst next week

[paper plover]

Hey everyone! Wondering which feral legendary to choose! Apex vs fearful symmetry vs cat-eye curio?

[rigid linden]

Ive heard great reviews from using cat eye as a smooth gamepl;ay, i crafted my Symm today and love the triple bites and idk about pex

[paper plover]

ok, I'll craft symm as well I think. Farming spires for cat eye seems a bit boring

Which missives did you go for?

[open verge]

vers mast

[paper plover]

thought as much

thanks for the help

[gilded plover]

how much ash u get next week

[livid wasp]

What would you guys think of as the best bite combo without berserk using symmetry

Best one ive come up with is 5cp bite -> FF -> TF > bite > up from 2 cp to 5 and bite

It seems kinda dull though

[crimson plume]

So I apologize if this is an annoying question... just starting out as boomy and torn on coves. My main focus is arena and my partner will be a sub rogue or disc priest. I see a lot of the top guys are going Kyrian, however all I see on YouTube is highlights of convoke raping faces from the fae. Can any one experienced please offer a little insight on this?

[shrewd mortar]

kyrian is 1 min cd bomb and convoke is 2 min bomb

[tough basin]

One thing to remember as well is kyrian is partner reliant while convoke isnt. If you’re a selfish player, convoke. If not, kyrian. Convoke also allows you to top people with off heals, but can be interrupted. Kyrian pots find great use in 2 as wells with the rebuff removal. Overall it depends on you and your play style

If you’re with a rogue you’ll most likely see better results with kyrian

[fallow root]

Should I be using kindred spirits on myself or my partner?

[open verge]

@livid wasp I think you'd want to tf pre ff, to increase its dmg too

dont underestimate the bleed 😄

[livid wasp]

I dont even know how much dmg that bleed does lul

[tough basin]

@livid wasp way more than the initial instance, at 170 iL, 29 mast and 14 vers it deals 5.5k

[lime light]

Cant touch this

Yes

@vestal citrus yes, u look nice today tho

Just sleep

[remote cave]

Anyone use Bloodtalons?

[slow basin]

what stat prio should I put in my leg for feral pvp in arena? Vers, Crit or Mast I need pick up two but idk which one

[open verge]

vers mast

[remote cave]

Someone told me yesterday as well to prioritize verz mastery

[crimson plume]

Thank you all for your insight. It looks like my owlbear will@pledge himself to the Kyrian

[snow magnet]

if we craft a legendary this week, will we have enough ash to make one next week as well?

Thats what I figured, thanks

[slow basin]

already bought the base

[crimson plume]

When it’s time for legendary what is the recommendation for boomers on the pvp side?

[fallow root]

@vestal citrus that’s why I’m holding off.

[primal glacier]

Boomy pvp is probably going to be timeworn dreambinder or balance of all things

I’m going to try with the crit one first until we get nerfed

[livid sparrow]

Timeworn dreambinder, Balance of all things or Circle of life and death for balalnce pvp?

[primal glacier]

I don’t think circle is going to be that good unless they buff our dots more. Starsurge is 50+% of my damage in skirmishes

[primal granite]

hey guys what r u thoughts on kirian as resto?

[fallow root]

I’m going to opt for Balance of all things because I need it for raid prog as well

[primal glacier]

I’m going to wait until after heroic week to make sure that balance of all things doesn’t get nerfed, but then I’m going with that for now

[fallow root]

But honestly, the drop chance on all of them are super low so I will take what i can get. I’ll probably go for sephuz or something in the meantime

Im pretty new to boomy PvP so I doubt I’ll be pushing glad this season anyways,

[craggy geyser]

will the double lifebloom legendary be good in pvp against teams with no ways to despell or steal it?

[fallow root]

I’m going to mess with feral too, I just hear there’s a much higher skill cap

[heavy cairn]

@craggy geyser you can purge lifebloom. I think the swiftmend leggo it’s going to be bis personally

[craggy geyser]

just sucks because im going to need to craft my raid and m+ legendary

and then a pvp ontop

[fallow root]

My buddy plays on sargeras and told me the base item for his plate leggo was like 2k gold.. 90k gold on my server wtf

[craggy geyser]

are you comparing the 190 bases and the 210 bases tho

190 bases are really cheap rn

210 are a little more expensive

[hollow junco]

I feel like some combination of Boat/convoke will get nerfed for boomy; it's one shotting in pvp AND top raid dps by a big chunk

[hoary ledge]

Dreambinder gang

[fringe summit]

Any rdruids crafting the lifebloom lego this week? Or just praying our world boss appears on reset

Or is it not good enough to warrant wasting ash

[patent dove]

wonder when they are gonna fix master shapeshifter simply not working in feral affinity

[devout sleet]

Anyone know how its possiblet hat Lifebloom is the #1 heal for this druid in a 40man pvp? he was crushing the chats

charts

[fleet raptor]

Probably wearing

With Focused growth @devout sleet

@heavy cairn You realize when you purge life bloom it instantly heals you right?

Focused Growth and that Legendary is op AF

[heavy cairn]

@fleet raptor I never said that you said it alluding to it not being purgable

[fleet raptor]

Huh? I was just responding to what you said to @craggy geyser

[heavy cairn]

The guy said “because it’s not dispelable and stealable” which it is

Ofc it heals when purged but that’s not what the subject was

[fleet raptor]

👍

[craggy geyser]

i was asking is it was potentially good against teams without purges and spellsteal

[heavy cairn]

It’s okay I think the swiftmend one is just better

[fleet raptor]

Its good either way as long as you're keeping it up

[heavy cairn]

I think keeping full hots st and refreshing adaptive swarm is really powerful.

[fleet raptor]

^

[heavy cairn]

Having 2 lifeblooms on 2 teammates is ok but the synergy and potential of swiftmend one is really strong

[fleet raptor]

Ive tested it a bit, even with the nerf, Dark titans with focused growth talent and photosynthesis is bonkers

[sly meteor]

remember bc when there was no limit of lifebloom targets?

[fleet raptor]

Whats the best Balance lego look like for 2's/3's

[exotic wolf]

hm, how did it feel to play double lifebloom? @fleet raptor
isn't it annoying to keep it up while maintaing the triple stack of lifebloom?

[fleet raptor]

nah not at all honestly, I just use the LB cursor Weak Aura to remind me

Once its applied 3 times, the focused growth stays up

I used to think it fell off, but it doesnt

@exotic wolf

[stark plover]

any feral crafted Symmetry for pvp and used it? How does it feel, you have sufficient energy to use all the combo points you get?

[exotic wolf]

what is this weak aura you're talking about?

[fleet raptor]

sec

https://wago.io/cursorcombo

[fallow root]

@craggy geyser even 190 bases my my realm are like 90-100k

[safe blade]

what's cov is the best for resto pvp?

[fleet raptor]

Necro

[short fjord]

What about feral? Icy veins says Necro but that fairy thing pumps

[fleet raptor]

No idea about feral, you’d have to look at the soul binds

You can interrupt night fae ability is the biggest prob with that @short fjord

[spiral linden]

playing resto with boomy affinity and starsurge is sometimes instant cast, does anyone know what the condition is, cant find out why on any spell?

[tepid acorn]

its instant cast with heart of the wild

[spiral linden]

ah, so becuase of my leggo, cheers

[fresh estuary]

Hey guys, which two pvp trinkets shall I aim at first as resto?

[cedar saffron]

probably always going to play insignia plus on use/battle master depending on the comp I face

[placid mirage]

My friend wanted to try 2s yesterday as ele/boom with no pvp gear (even trinket) and we matched 2 sub rogues...at least it was fast.

[hollow junco]

Thorns claps all the zug zug rogues who rerolled to be op

[daring canyon]

Thorns that good?

[dim heron]

whats best legendary for boomy

[placid mirage]

I heard dreambinder

For pvp

[daring canyon]

You guys recommend Boomie or Feral for pvp btw? I am having more fun with Feral in BGs I think (boomie feels I'm padding) but seeing some boomies really put in the kills

[placid mirage]

It depends on if you're a tab dotting starfall boomie or a celestial alignment starsurge boomie

[daring canyon]

I want to kill things, not pad meters 🙂

[placid mirage]

You can definitely get good single target in solar by dumping 90 AP and some wrsths into someone

I feel like boom plays a lot more around cooldowns and feral has more kill windows

What cov are u

[daring canyon]

NF

[placid mirage]

I think convoke is pretty bad in BGs for boom

[dim heron]

NF is so cool

[primal glacier]

I think it’s more important to base it on if you like playing melee or caster more. It’s a pretty big difference in play style

I play boomy/resto and all of my alts are casters/healer. I don’t like pvping as melee so feral wouldn’t be fun for me

[daring canyon]

Im going to go guardian for 2nd spec too - so maybe feral makes more sense gear and stats wise too

[placid mirage]

Yeah u can share wep

And trink

[daring canyon]

can you guys recommend a first lego for guardian/feral?

[sullen lichen]

Depends on your method of gearing

[daring canyon]

M+

[sullen lichen]

Guardian to push keys needs vers, mastery.

Feral wants crit mastery

[placid mirage]

Guardian seems like they have really powerful guardian specific legos so u will probably need 2 rank 1 legos

[daring canyon]

I will only feral in pvp - so I think Feral btw is vers/mastery too

[sullen lichen]

All tanks need to stack vers as there top stat

Oh? Ya pvp wants something different idk.

[dim heron]

best legendary circle of life?

for balance

[daring canyon]

yes hates that it drops in raid

[dim heron]

true haha

what second best then?

[tiny oar]

Cycle for dot spread pressure dreamweaver for bursty setup comps

See pins TM

[fresh estuary]

Thanks, insignia indeed for sure

[primal glacier]

For balance I think boat is better than dreambinder for bursty setups right now, and I think pulsar could be good too if you play around it

If you play arena I would not go with circle because dot pressure is a way weaker playstyle atm

[dim heron]

boat will say

?

[primal glacier]

Balance of all things, gain 50% crit buff that decreased by 10% per second every time you enter eclipse

[dim heron]

balance oif all things

got it

soz

[primal glacier]

Pool 90 astral power, press fury of elune, trigger eclipse or press incarn and then triple starsurge

You’re going to need to change targets for the third starsurge because the first guy will already be dead ☠️

[dim heron]

haha

yeah focusing on rbg so

looking for the right

legendary

[primal glacier]

rbg circle or pulsar. What covenant are you?

[dim heron]

NF

[primal glacier]

Probably just circle then

[dim heron]

circle of life u mean

[primal glacier]

Yeah

[dim heron]

yeah raid drop damm hehe

[primal glacier]

I think the arcanic pulsar legendary could be good with kyrian if you always proc the free incarn at the same time as a kyrian+badge use

But otherwise I think the random incarn buff would be less op

[dim heron]

i like NF so mutch eheh

[sand spade]

Is there any educational streamer/youtuber for balance arena?

[fallow root]

A guy named Glyph lord or something made a good one on reddit

[hoary ledge]

The Glyph lord himself @vestal citrus

[sand spade]

I looked at his twitch and there were no videos :(

Will check reddit

Thanks

[hoary ledge]

He has like a 45 minute guide on YT rn

Will have everything you need to know

Not much educational / informational stuff outside of that guide tbh. Everybody just posting convoke one shots against skirmish bots

[teal hinge]

Skill though

[hoary ledge]

Lmao one guy literally prefaces the video like “this isn’t even broken, I’ll show you how to pull it off!!”

[fallow root]

@hoary ledge which is weird because boomkin is a popular PvP spec and takes a bit of skill to pull off properly.

[cedar saffron]

you can also check https://www.twitch.tv/corkiri for high rated boomy arenas

[fallow root]

Supatease has some good boomkin content also

[open verge]

boomkin, skill?!

[hoary ledge]

Yeah Supatease does as well

Between Supa and Glyph you’re set in regards to educational videos relevant to SL, mix in some high level games on twitch from Cork and you’re good to go

I miss when samiyam played boomy bfa s1. He streamed like every day

[fallow root]

The hardest thing for me is actually hopping in arena. I’m a BG hero right now because I don’t have the patience to deal with toxic partners

[hoary ledge]

No better time to jump in and spam skirms. Toxic partners are aids but it’s unrated so just try and learn as much as possible. Become comfortable with binds etc

[open verge]

its really hard to take anything from skirms honestly

[fallow root]

Only things I need to get used to are arena 1,2,3 macros
I assume you mainly use that for clones right?

[hoary ledge]

Yeah I use 123 for clones

[livid wasp]

symmetry is so damn useless lol

[open verge]

wut

how is it useless

[livid wasp]

we still have energy problems

the 4 bite combo doesnt even take priests shield off it doesnt hit for anything

like refunding 2 combos after using finisher with TF

how is that so useful

[open verge]

demand a refund

are you sure youre biting above 50 energy

[livid wasp]

yes

like with cat eye curio you got a lot more energy to spare

you dont have to wait for 50 energy

after using berserk and tf and biting

[haughty compass]

Night fae bad for balance?

[open verge]

if you do 5p>then zerk/tf>bite(75 energy)>bite(60ish energy)

[livid wasp]

and its only useful during berserk

kind of useelss

[open verge]

well you can bite faster

[livid wasp]

same with curio tho a lot bigger energy pool

[fallow root]

@open verge I personally went kyrian. I got insta zooted by a feral using convoke but I watched a few boomys in BGs trying to pull it off and I didn’t look like they were doing too much. I watched one guy cast like 3 surges at random people and then a bunch of healing spells

[gilded plover]

rng apex the only way

[obtuse ice]

idiotferal took Symmtry

[livid wasp]

maybe its a case of l2p idk will see

[limpid kraken]

@fallow root convokes from range are awk b/c there are typically multiple targets. ESP in pvp range like BGs and even to an extent arenas. However with feral, you can isolate someone in melee range and get most of your covoke casts off on a single target.

for PVE however, its fairly simple to hold your burst till you can isolate the boss, which actually makes convoke very strong in range for those situations (both m+ healing and boomy raid DPS)

[brazen lake]

so rdruids

what kinda stats

are you looking for

[limpid kraken]

pvp? i believe mastery is very strong with germination

[brazen lake]

yeah i was thinking so too

[limpid kraken]

haste still prob very solid stat

also i crafted symetry and am loving it for feral tbh. very strong combo with zerk, and i can kill healers in a few globals now outside of convoke

[open verge]

I love it too

if bites are weak thats feral problem not symmetry problem

[limpid kraken]

bites are not weak tho

imo

[tranquil raft]

so are people playing sym or oath?

[livid wasp]

dunno healers have so much time to react to the damage

[open verge]

thats why i was surprised to hear him say that

[livid wasp]

you do that 3 bite combo then you dont have anything and if hes not dead youre sitting there

[haughty compass]

Am@I dumb for going convoke as a balance main? Is swapping covenants gonna fuck me?

[limpid kraken]

dont think you're dumb. but if all you're focused on is pushing pvp balance rating then maybe consider?

[zealous geode]

I swapped covs yesterday and I'm back to where i was

except for sanctum upgrades

[open verge]

you swapped to kyrian?

[zealous geode]

from kyrian to NF

as feral

[brazen lake]

what yall think about arms/spriest/rdruid

think im gonna q that tonight

[open verge]

strong

[brazen lake]

yeah

[limpid kraken]

@livid wasp as opposed to what tho? You're making your zerk MUCH stronger which imo is needed in such a fast pace meta. With both convoke and zerk combo i feel like i have 2 i-win combos that I can pull off. This is very important b/c people are wising up to how fast pace this meta is and are popping defensives very quickly. As such, I like that I have 2 bullets in my chamber persay. None of the other legendaries does it to such an extent. I'm playing VERY setup-y where if i dont have eaither convoke or zerk up, im peeling and playing defensive

[haughty compass]

Almost wonder if I should just level another Druid

[brazen lake]

arms/spriest/x seems to be t1 comp

[open verge]

yeah its not like the long term dps gain youll get through curio or the QoL translates to winning somehow

[limpid kraken]

^^

unless you're playing kyrian bleed spec

and playing like a bleed comp with aff lock

then sure

[open verge]

if you cant burst through zerk youre not gonna do much outside of it anyway

[livid wasp]

I dont know ive been doing it against healers in bgs

discs are tanky as fuck

[open verge]

are you watching for their defensives

pain supp

[limpid kraken]

theres prob arguments to BG playstyle maybe favoring more sustained dps too

[livid wasp]

yes

[limpid kraken]

tho ferals in RBGs

are a yikes

play balance if you want to do that

[open verge]

pretty much 😄

[livid wasp]

random bgs

[limpid kraken]

i know i know. im having a lot of fun in bgs too lol

[tardy hare]

walk up to base defender

rake convoke

get base

[limpid kraken]

i dothe epic bgs Qs a lot when bored cuz theres tons of small scale skermishers

[tardy hare]

[livid wasp]

I guess there will be real practice only when 2s comes out

if people play healer/dps anymore

[tardy hare]

ofcourse they will

playing healer dps on first day tho

is hella

boring

[open verge]

yeah just spam duo dps for quick wins

or losses

sp feral should be yuicy

[tardy hare]

ret feral

[open verge]

is there a cool way to resize/move your raid frames when in bgs >.>

I have them big and near center for arenas

but when you have 40 ppl

[slender tinsel]

Guys what covenant is recomended for pvp?

[open verge]

ok there are diff profiles

[limpid kraken]

@slender tinsel spec?

[slender tinsel]

Im thinking Resto

[limpid kraken]

if you multi-spec i'd reccomend NF. tho for min-max pvp resto, you go necro for the added defensives from the ability and cuz soulbind tree is extreemly defensive

[open verge]

spoof whats your exp with feral?

[slender tinsel]

cheers

[limpid kraken]

first xpac playing feral tbh xD

tho 2100+ as a mage, disc priest, and rdruid

from cata-bfa

so im no god by any means. but i feel i know my way around an arena

oh @open verge i believe the default raid frame options lets you make multiple for different senarios and have it automatically change based on the instnace. that being said, i think it messes up when you swap specs around a lot and i end up manually swapping profiles between BGs and Arenas

[open verge]

yeah i used that

[zealous geode]

I think you can even set which spec to activate on, i haven't played with that part of it though

[livid wasp]

and feels weird having to play around not wasting those 2 combo points

like if I tf before FF then I have to bite twice using the 2 extra combos and only then FF

[open verge]

I dont understand

[livid wasp]

like if you use FF after using tf and biting

you will have 2 combos

and its a waste

to use ff on that

having to hold on ff for the proper moment for so long

[dire nymph]

Are you using symmetry or you talking about during berserk?

If you berserk on pull (which I think is best usually?) Then yeah, it feels kinda weird to only FF after 20+ sec

[livid wasp]

yes I have symmetry

[dire nymph]

Oh

This is pvp channel

Derp

[livid wasp]

talking out of berserk

[dire nymph]

Yeah I agree

I think you use it after getting your 3 bites?

But that does feel like too long idk

They probably already died or survived

[open verge]

yes you use it after your bites

[dire nymph]

I think BT still feels worse

[open verge]

I like ff

[tardy hare]

You can also just start with the feral frenzy

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[open verge]

I dont understand how you would have 2cp

if you zerk

[dire nymph]

Refunds finishers. Unless this isn't a stealth opener or anything and we're just running up to the guy and pressing FF

[open verge]

yeah so if you bite then you have 4cp

[dire nymph]

I was saying zerk or symmetry cuz he said 2 cp

[dire nymph]

He also said this

[livid wasp]

talking outside of berserk here

with berserk guess its simple with the 4cp bites

[dire nymph]

Yeah you use it after the bites to get a 4th

I guess

[livid wasp]

best to use FF first ofc but kinda situational at times

[open verge]

so how is having 2cp worse

than having none

[livid wasp]

I mean if you have 2 cp and you use FF then its kinda wastee

wasted

[dire nymph]

I guess if you're sure that they will die then having the bleed up isn't wasted

[livid wasp]

im just wondering if minmaxing like this is really necessary in pvp

dunno

[dire nymph]

Might be worth trying to FF at 2 cp if you have a small window

[livid wasp]

shadowlands pvp feels so weird compared to bfa

yes ofc if hes gonna die you do that

[open verge]

why not tf into ff

im confused

or youre talking that you build 5cp>tf>bite>2cp

and awkward

[livid wasp]

yeah

while having ff available

like I sometimes fuck up the rotation cause its new and weird

and use TF bite before FF

[open verge]

I would still use tf with ff

god I almost forgot how awful epic bgs are as melee

5k ms

and 30 people

[livid wasp]

idk why blizzard keeps them available

theyre unplayable as anything I feel

so much lag

[open verge]

yeah

[swift sphinx]

So how is druid in PvP

[dusty sphinx]

Yes

[lilac belfry]

feels great until you see an army of rogues appear behind you

[wraith lantern]

sub rogue is just broken

[open verge]

pop SI thorns

youre good

[chrome panther]

^

[lilac belfry]

if its only 1 lol

[livid wasp]

55% phial hot is pretty fucking good for surviving rogues

it somehow heals just enough to let me survive

then I kill

[open verge]

that +fr conduit

and youre golden

[knotty otter]

Could anyone explain the rotation to a newby when using symmetry for the 4 bite combo?

[open verge]

5cp>zerk/tf>bite>bite>bite>ff>bite

[livid wasp]

yes

[open verge]

on paper sounds good but youre kind of energy starved anyway

so its not really back to back

[knotty otter]

Perfect thank you mate

[chrome panther]

lol is it really 4 bites in a row

thats nuts

[open verge]

I have to check in what window you can actually get them in

[lime light]

real bois, do a bt bites

thats a friendly reminder

[left trench]

I know resto in pvp is sort of a meme but any recommended guides or stat weights? Vers / Haste?

[open verge]

resto meme in pvp? 🤔

[left trench]

just with how bursty things are in arena atm, and figured since there are 0 pins relating to resto but I'm happy to be wrong

[coarse ferry]

you plan on 2's-3's BGs or a mix?

[winter spindle]

Faerie swarm

[left trench]

Probably 2/3s

[limpid kraken]

all healers more or less feel that way right now imo. Peeps will adapt and hopefully there are some tuning changes. You have to make very liberal use of your defensives to live and play smart

[left trench]

Yeah I figured stack vers as much as possible, just wondered vers / haste or which secondary is next in line, well to start at least, then you get into the whole how good is leech in pvp but yeah basics is fine with me

[chrome panther]

vers = haste > mastery >>>>>> crit

[limpid kraken]

^

vers tbh prob a lil better with current state of pp

pvp

[left trench]

sounds good, thanks

[chrome panther]

just avoid crit like the plague

[coarse ferry]

for 2's-3's I'd run Oath/Guardian/cat affinty, work on the defensive conduits the free proc of frenzy regen and the one that grants you %increased healing from frenzy regen and regrowth. That's what I plan at least

[tepid acorn]

what legendary's are viable for resto in 3v3?

[chrome panther]

verdant infusion.

[tepid acorn]

only 1?

[chrome panther]

maybe dark titans

[coarse ferry]

cat+convoke without having to take hotw and grabbing bash instead in 2's easier setup; You can still use it as guardian for 3 frenzy regen charges

[dusty sphinx]

I'm mainly worried about how bad it'll be once all those scary melee get their legendaries online :P

[chrome panther]

wait till WWs get their 33% haste on celestial legendary

[dusty sphinx]

shudder

[chrome panther]

You think they slaughter now? wait till they have lust on every go

[coarse ferry]

VI if you only plan to do 3's, but VI falls off a bit over oath if you do 2's and BGs other such things

[lilac belfry]

what lego is strongest for boomie pvp? i see nothing but boat online but i feel like thats pve

[chrome panther]

i mean, boat

that or timeworn

[lilac belfry]

ok, it seemed like contradictory messages...everyone recommends against crit for pvp then is high on the crit lego

lol

[chrome panther]

well its alot of crit

and starsurge slaps rn

[open verge]

so are you guys ready for 'nerf druid' train when they gut sub and mm?

[dusty sphinx]

Gladly :P

[forest kite]

any high rated restos in here?

[chrome panther]

define high rated

[forest kite]

let me just pose the question instead

[quartz pumice]

Mostly convoke feral here

[forest kite]

What legendary for arena, 2x lifebloom is nice, but it doesnt feel like a super strong option, swiftmend not consuming +8sec on hots is everybodys favorite, but i dont really see the benefit of 8sec extension paying off a lot in arena, so i would consider it mediocre at best

[open verge]

theres no energy starvation here

you can do 4 bites just fine

[chrome panther]

verdant saves gcds, and mana

also phat cen wards

[forest kite]

and so ive been thinking about oath of the elder druid for a while now, everybody considers it a clown legendary, but .. it improves your guardian in defensive matchups, it gives you 30pct dmg when you play feral affin

[chrome panther]

all 3 have their merits

right now i'd just hold off until after heroic tuning

[forest kite]

hmye i have no real reason to rush the legendary, but the fact that the worst consequence can be that you are behind max 2 weeks on some ilvl on 1 item is also not the end of the world

[maiden wraith]

Sry if this topic has been brought up too many times but just read somewhere that curio is no longer bis for feral? Is it apex now?

[chrome panther]

go symmetry for pvp, apex for pve

[open verge]

This is PvP channel

[maiden wraith]

ik

so symmetry?

[open verge]

Curio was never 'bis' in pvp

[quartz pumice]

I am in the same boat.

I am not sure where to go with the legs yet so I am waiting for now.

[carmine berry]

Are a lot of people waiting re legendaries, then?

[quartz pumice]

It'd be nice to have a pretty orange item, but there is no reason that it's going to stop me from skilling up by just doing arena without it. Just waiting for some more research and opinions before I lock in.

[carmine berry]

Are the PVP Vendor legendaries worth investing in over the PVE?

[chrome panther]

maybe oath for 2s.

[forest kite]

im pretty sure im going to make elder druid, its nice all around, can be used for multiple specs, has real merit if you play around it in arena, 30pct dmg convoke is pretty scary

and for stuff like m+ its a 1min cd convoke button for massive healer dmg

whats not to love

[chrome panther]

well youll want dark titans for m+ for starters.

[forest kite]

for photosynthesis

[chrome panther]

yes

[sand fractal]

What trinket set are we running for resto pvp, primarily focused on 2s and 3s

[forest kite]

thats the big one of course, 20pct increased healing if you keep lifebloom up on yourself

but at the cost of germination is it worth it

[chrome panther]

for pvp probably not.

thats why i said m+

[forest kite]

gotya

@sand fractal i run aspirant on use badge

[sand fractal]

i was thinking the use would be most beneficial

[dusty sphinx]

Photo outheals germ in m+, pvp is a different matter

[forest kite]

even without dark titan?

[chrome panther]

yes

[dusty sphinx]

Yep

Photo shines in 1 target or 5 target situations, while also saving you a lot of globals

[forest kite]

hmm yes logic, makes sense

[chrome panther]

photo is absurd and dark titans makes it extra juicy.

[dusty sphinx]

There's a reason titans was nerfed 4 times and photo 1 time in beta :P

[crimson plume]

Zanda or Tauren for boomy ?

[chrome panther]

warstomp op.

[crimson plume]

Oooo that’s right

[forest kite]

Nightelf

[maiden wraith]

does it matter which piece u use for legendary?

[forest kite]

no contest

[crimson plume]

Owlbear be Dino

Hey nice pic fiend, witch cult today

[forest kite]

Yeah, good music

[crimson plume]

Love electric wizard

[forest kite]

same

[shut crescent]

Is Necro really that much better than Nightfae for Resto PvP? It kinda sucks because Necrolord seems pretty poor for all other forms of content / specs
And mighty bash > convoke the spirits in cat form might be decent to 1v1 a DPS chasing you?

[forest kite]

Fleshcraft cc immunity is good in pvp, but 3 times as much on a healer, since... most of the obvious cc during kill attempts will be directed at you

at least thats the theory in my head

[shut crescent]

It's also a 2 min CD, how many casts will you get off in a game? Like 3 max, idk if that should be the deciding factor

[forest kite]

but i took nightfay, the shapeshift is a bitch and requires yet another bunch of macros to work properly with you forms, but convoke is just the coolest spell added to the game in years

[shut crescent]

I'm tempted Nightfae too, I got my RDruid to max level 2 days ago and I've not even picked a covenant because I've been so conflicted

[open verge]

after mindgames 😛

[forest kite]

mindgames is amazing yeah

[crimson plume]

Convoke looks so fun... my main goal for this boomer is arenas. Hearing mixed things though, a lot of people are swearing by Kyrian

[novel sky]

Night fae is good if you plan on doing every single kind of content

[open verge]

id go kyrian for boomie honestly

[novel sky]

For resto at least

If you’re only pvping then necro is the better choice

[shut crescent]

Thinking Nightfae then yeah
I was also considering Kyrian but for resto it's just a healing buff to your partner, if it gave them damage I'd deffo pick it

[forest kite]

i think people are sleeping on convoke, yeah you can kick it, but just having it adds so much pressure to the game

[shut crescent]

Boomkin is a lot of fun, I deffo want to try it more and Nightfae works for both Resto & Balance

[forest kite]

adaptive swarm is good for healing throughput, but i dont even understand why people swear by it for resto, i mean you need hots on the target before it really starts doing something

if they swap or purge

it doesnt really bring you any benefit right?

[shut crescent]

truuue

It's still good tho 1% mana and it is a hot in itself

and scales on mastery

[forest kite]

its a difficult conversation to have, im not a 3.3k player going up against pikaboo neither

tierlists are subject to the skilllevel of the player

[open verge]

ffs the lag in some zones is unreal

ruins the game for me

[wraith lantern]

as feral which pvp trinkets i have to buy ?

[open verge]

I use badge and medallion

[wraith lantern]

ty

[open verge]

oh cool, renown 6 unlocked dreamweaver, can have both potency and endurance now

[short sapphire]

what is feral's stat priority?

[acoustic nebula]

@open verge do you like that over niyas passive mastery esp when you Convoke

[open verge]

well, its either +20% dmg on convoke

or that

+cheat death lul

[acoustic nebula]

You can get both

[open verge]

well yeah but no frenzied regen then

[acoustic nebula]

Ooh true

[forest kite]

ah so there is a cheat death talent for durids

[open verge]

its a shit cheat death tho

[acoustic nebula]

No it's night fae

[forest kite]

yeah

what i meant

[dire pulsar]

Is venthyr kinda better choice for pvp(with pve content also) than nightfae? Convoke is powerful AF, but if there is a decent player it will be interrupted .

[open verge]

venthyr is never better lol

[forest kite]

venthyr is terrible, the frenzy ?

[obtuse ice]

Venthy

OP

🧛

[open verge]

NF is better in both pve and pvp

[acoustic nebula]

Night bae

[dire pulsar]

Maybe i just like vanpyres lol

[forest kite]

ah it was a bit of confirmation bias xD

[obtuse ice]

Come with us

[forest kite]

fair enough man, a reason like another to choose a covenant

[plain herald]

But the necrolord set mog tho....

[forest kite]

+1 necrolords are cool

[open verge]

weird, people are not killing the cheat death thingy

not sure if its bugged or what

[dire pulsar]

Have two druids anyway, if i do lvl up alt one to 60, it has to be different cov

[chrome panther]

Its hard to target

The dreamweaver pod

[open verge]

is it?

[chrome panther]

yeah, strange because its so big

[open verge]

is there no nameplate?

[chrome panther]

Not for me

[dusty sphinx]

Lots of people probably have no idea what it is

[chrome panther]

idk if its an addon being fucky though

that to, people are dumb

[dusty sphinx]

It could easily be mistaken for a whacky trinket proc, I guess

[open verge]

it helped in neither of the fights tho

you just die twice

[cobalt mauve]

So nothing feral building has changed right? Vers>Mastery>Crit

[open verge]

who queues on a war now

[chrome panther]

It procs in arena also

despite the 10 min cd

[open verge]

OOF

convoke to close it out

[stray sigil]

is the well-honed conduit

[open verge]

these rogues had to be garbanzo tho

[stray sigil]

meant to not let u shift out

like if the regen procs

[open verge]

no, why

[stray sigil]

and u shift from cat to bear

it removes it

[open verge]

does it work like that?

[stray sigil]

keeps happening to me ya

[open verge]

ill test it

works fine for me

when I shift out from cat to bear it persists

[stray sigil]

the heal should be proccing 4 times correct

[open verge]

correct

[stray sigil]

keep getting 2 procs

does it work if u go caster form

after it procs

like mid proc

[open verge]

lemme see

lol

if i go caster its go

gone

only 1 tick

[stray sigil]

hmm prob what happened to me

not sure if its intended

[open verge]

damn ferals burst is sick

[dusty sphinx]

So the heal stops immediately on shapeshift?
Kinda makes you wonder if it was ever intended to proc out of bear

[open verge]

I dont think it should matter, probably something scrambled with the regular frenzied reg

should persist imho

ill submit a bug report

[dusty sphinx]

Agreed. The current mechanic is just weird

[obtuse ice]

Normal frienzy don't remains

[dusty sphinx]

Either it's not supposed to proc outside of bear, or it's supposed to remain.
Anything else is stupid

[open verge]

normal frenzied cant proc in cat or caster...

apples to oranges

[obtuse ice]

yhea but if you're in bnear and you shapeshfit it dospame

[stray sigil]

ya but u can shift between cat abd bear

[open verge]

eat a baguette dude youre rambling

[stray sigil]

and it keeps working

apparently

so its only with caster that it doesnt work

[obtuse ice]

oh really

[stray sigil]

and it can proc in caster

so its a bit weird

[obtuse ice]

never

[stray sigil]

wdym never

it does proc in caster

with the conduit

@open verge try to make it proc in caster

and then shift in form

does it persist?

[open verge]

lul cheat death actually won the game

rogue thought its over

if you shift from caster to form it stops too

[stray sigil]

but it did proc in caster

so its def bugged

[open verge]

yeah

[stray sigil]

around caster

sick

[open verge]

it should proc in caster

[stray sigil]

should proc in everything

[open verge]

yes

[stray sigil]

should also persist in everything

[obtuse ice]

aye conduit

not the normal one

[stray sigil]

and if it isnt meant to persist

[stone nest]

Yeah well honed procs in any form.

[stray sigil]

then why does it persist from cat to bear and shit

[stone nest]

So I think it should persist

But idk what the intended mechanic is

[open verge]

they'd indicate if it had some additional restrictions, clearly a bug with caster

[stray sigil]

its just supposed to be drop to 40 heal for x

[open verge]

yeah

[stray sigil]

literally all the tooltip says

[stone nest]

It’s literally the saving grace I have on rogue openers.

[stray sigil]

i mean its a minor bug but like means ur stuck in w.e form and cant like rejuv swiftmend for the duration of the proc

kinda weird

[obtuse ice]

always has bneen

[stray sigil]

were talking about the conduit

u fucking baguette

[open verge]

yeah I mean ive faced some rogues

and its never 100-0 for me

I always have a chance to fight

[obtuse ice]

then ure lucky

[chrome panther]

until they all latch onto the 100% crit legendary

🤷

[open verge]

yeah, its probably the shitters I meet

but the pace is really weird, everyone has so much burst/healing

[stone nest]

I just stay stealth as long as possible and wait for them to get impatient

Have a rejuv on everyone else in case they need a swifmend.

[chrome panther]

hot people up

sit in bear

they always just go on you, idk why

thorns, jump around laughing

[open verge]

It was funny seeing two rogues chasing our rdruid

He should have never survive two rogues

[chrome panther]

oof

bad word

[open verge]

I saw a bit of that :D

[chrome panther]

the amount of badword rogue FOTM rerollers rn is absurd

[stray sigil]

get wardened idiot

kekw

[chrome panther]

GOT ME

[open verge]

Is mongo a bad word here too?

I guess wrong discord

[stray sigil]

idk this server a bit nazi

[chrome panther]

DAMN

[stray sigil]

ngl

[chrome panther]

LOL

[open verge]

I've seen worse

[obtuse ice]

you can't write

in full word

[stray sigil]

reported to the authorities

[chrome panther]

ruh oh

[stray sigil]

[open verge]

safe space for elmond

[stray sigil]

k so do i go kyrian

i need some help

[obtuse ice]

n o

[open verge]

as feral?

[stray sigil]

yes

convoke is poop to me

dont care bout it

[open verge]

convoke still strong, you can reroll when arena is out

[stray sigil]

but then i have to refarm renown

[open verge]

so go kyrian then

if you dont like it

should take you long, its just 3 renown you have to farm

[obtuse ice]

fuji

This guy

needs you

[open verge]

yes, go venthyr!

[stray sigil]

its 6 no ?

[open verge]

I mean 3 you'll get from weekly quests

the rest youll have to farm through whatever means

im not exactly sure how that works

[stray sigil]

bro if i go venthyr smight and willy will roast me

for the rest of my life tho

[obtuse ice]

who

are

those

guys

[open verge]

imaginary friends

[stray sigil]

some idiots

[obtuse ice]

looks like it

why do you care about idiots

[stray sigil]

u think ur funny u fucking omelette?

[open verge]

so how do you make use of venthyr?

[stray sigil]

u dont

[open verge]

a wasted cov

[obtuse ice]

like very

[stray sigil]

a bad cov ability and

bad soulbinds

feelsgoodman

[open verge]

and shit signature too

[thorny pawn]

hey guys, what are we thinking for Rdruid Legendary for pvp ?

for 2s' i wanted to go Sephuz or Elder druid if i can kitty

[stone nest]

I’m enjoying oath but I could see good arguments for others

[quartz pumice]

I got Dark Titan on my first run for Resto? Should I just go for it? Mainly M+ and Arena. It should be good for that yeah?

[thorny pawn]

i really dont like Dark Titan in pvp but that's just imo

except hard spread damage comps

but that's playing into your weaknessn, not sure its value

[untold mural]

What is statio prio for resto druids to start with? Vers > haste=mastery? or haste=mastery>vers?

stat*

[quartz pumice]

You like Circle of LD more?

[stone nest]

The reason I like oath is for the passive bonuses with nice burst on my convoke if I want damage

Also extra range for spells ain’t bad

For pvp

[quartz pumice]

I see what you mean.

[stone nest]

More range on a cyclone is nice

But it has less value outside of pvp I think than others.

[quartz pumice]

Yeah for sure. It seems purely PvP given the affinity focus

[candid moth]

@open verge you could use it to put yourself on stun dr during cds

[open verge]

I gotta say symmetry is SO nice

[candid moth]

the venthis ability I mean

[obtuse ice]

Swiftmend

fucking bugged

[weary valley]

Has anybody found some good conduits for Feral PvP?

[obtuse ice]

TF one

[weary valley]

Increases TF dmg bonus?

[obtuse ice]

ye

[open verge]

elmond always with the shit ideas

convoke one and frenzied regen

or the bite one

[weary valley]

Im not bear aff

[open verge]

it pops frenzied regen free for you no matter affinity

when you drop below 40%

[weary valley]

o

[open verge]

its OP

and probably gonna get nerfed

[weary valley]

Whats it called?

[open verge]

well-honed instincts

[weary valley]

Ill look into it

[shrewd fossil]

Can someone tell me whats your pvp opener like? for feral

[obtuse ice]

tf one sin't bad lol

[open verge]

its not bad

its not something you should be using now tho

[stray sigil]

tf conduit is good

if ur not nf and like

dont have bite one ig

kekw

[weary valley]

Can I get the frenzied regen one even if im not gaurdian loot specialization?

[open verge]

yes

I got mine from WQ tho

Im hoping for the 184ilvl one from callings

[obtuse ice]

I have blue one

[stray sigil]

u can just farm it

from plaguefall put on guard spec loot

1st boss

[weary valley]

you can get conduits from callings?

[stray sigil]

you can

[open verge]

you do, very often

[stray sigil]

got convoke one in the epic cache

[weary valley]

I havent gotten any lol

[open verge]

theres nothing to do with honor

[rich flicker]

I’m kinda curious, what trinkets will everyone be rushing for, for pvp?

[open verge]

gotta buy boomie stuff I guess

[stray sigil]

na keep ur honor lol

next week can upgrade gear

[open verge]

im still gonna cap it

[stray sigil]

idk how u guys capd

jesus fuck thats a lot of bgs

[rich flicker]

It’s maybe 30 random bg wins

[open verge]

it feels like I barely played

and im at 8k

[weary valley]

im at like 3.4k honor, and all my gear is maxed

[open verge]

@stray sigil cant farm 1st boss in m0 tho

[stray sigil]

ya but heroic one ig

if u aint lucky

in ur m0

[weary valley]

I mean- you.. can..

[open verge]

do I really need guardian spec for that?

[stray sigil]

thats what i did

yes

i just did 1st boss left

kekw

[open verge]

I have no clue how to tank as guardian lul

[weary valley]

Theres shadowlands heroic in dungeon finder

[obtuse ice]

8k honor atm

[open verge]

youre resto?

oh nvm

[obtuse ice]

is really good

[open verge]

oh wait you can just change your loot spec cant you? >.>

I dont actually have to tank this shit

[weary valley]

Yeah haha

[obtuse ice]

lol

[thin thistle]

halo what restoration legendary is best for pvp?

[open verge]

verdant infusion

[thin thistle]

thx, is oath of the elder druid good?

[weary valley]

I feel like in certain situations, yes, but, there are better legendaries for broader uses.

[thin thistle]

okey thanks
is the verdant infusion 100% drop chance from the world boss?

[wooden basalt]

yes

[open verge]

it is? on beta it wasnt

is this new info

[weary valley]

But, in the end it matters what feels best for you and is most enjoyable.

[livid wasp]

I hope theyll make convoke unusable in pvp

[open verge]

wut, theyll never do that

[livid wasp]

its so stupid

[open verge]

why

[livid wasp]

or make it a 1.5 sec cast before using it

[open verge]

yes, a 1,5s cast and instant 16spells, im all for that 😄

[livid wasp]

1.5 sec cast and channel

and moving breaks channel

[weary valley]

Its so easily interruptable.. like.. 50% of my convokes get interrupted

[obtuse ice]

I wish too

[livid wasp]

not if you dont have trinket

[obtuse ice]

but they won't disable it

[livid wasp]

its so that shit people can have fun in pvp too

[open verge]

that's only a problem for low lvl pvp

[forest kite]

If you don’t have trinket what are you doing

[livid wasp]

ive trinketted something else?

duh

[open verge]

but we all know that's who blizzard tends to

so convoke is getting clapped, no worries

[forest kite]

Inb

[livid wasp]

or make it break cc

anything

some nerf

[forest kite]

Yes it will, because people like our friend zechey will make sure it gets nerfed by flooding the forum xD

[open verge]

you can already: cc it, interrupt it, outrange it, outgroup it

@forest kite indeed

[livid wasp]

you cant do any of those if you dont have trinket

[open verge]

ive seen a warrior complained about a rogue on reddit while he freaking clicks all abilities with his mouse

even if they nerf rogues by 50% it wouldnt have helped him

and such people are the vocal ones

[forest kite]

There are plenty of things you can’t do when you don’t have trinket Zechey

[livid wasp]

how is it fair that you have a button that you can press once, let go of your keyboard and fap or something

and it oneshots your opponent

if they dont have a trinket

[chrome panther]

next up a boomkin will slap you with x3 10k starsurges

[open verge]

thats why they have you

dont they

[chrome panther]

and youll be here whining about that

🥱

[livid wasp]

so?

convoke broken for them too

[chrome panther]

its not even convoke

you boob

its kyiran + incarn and all the onuse shit you can stack along with boat

[forest kite]

The thing with PvP Zechey, if you ever want to get better at it, stop blaming the game, stop blaming others. Start thinking about how you can fix the problem

[livid wasp]

they just need to do something about that noob ass ability

[open verge]

and they will

[livid wasp]

yeah and rogues are ok too, just my problem

right

[forest kite]

And about your teammates in league, about the enemy streetfighter champ cause he’s cheap, and also nerf that facing Terran race cause I have 40 Pam

[open verge]

they might make it so the "better" spells are cast later in the channel

convoke is stupid when it works out

but you gotta ask yourself if you couldnt have done anything about it

or have done something that lead to you being unable to respond to it

ofc if its random bgs youll get clapped

but thats just it, random bg

for fun

[forest kite]

I mean this game exists for 15 years

And rogues can still force trinket on stun

Blind restealth and gg

[open verge]

yeah

[ruby holly]

Is there a consensus on Feral pvp stat prio? Vers > Mastery > Crit > Haste? Is there a haste % to shoot for before crit, or just stack mastery and then crit where I can (after vers)?

[chrome panther]

y'all get clapped by a rogue with master assassins leggo yet?

its fun times

[forest kite]

Yup

[open verge]

@ruby holly you wont reach any values that would make you pick anything besides vers and mast

not yet

[chrome panther]

Also they're still using drest trinket 😿

[ruby holly]

Cool, thank you for the info

[forest kite]

Skulker?

[chrome panther]

nobody has skulker.

[open verge]

no, they still use drest

[chrome panther]

legit drest from bfa

crit me for 7k just 5 minutes ago

[open verge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/k5sjpy/i_uh_i_wanna_play_too_you_know/

[chrome panther]

died in opener within 2 GCDs

[forest kite]

Alright

[thin thistle]

what missives should i use on my legendary?

[chrome panther]

what spec

[thin thistle]

restoration

[chrome panther]

vers/hast

[thin thistle]

thank you

[forest kite]

Really? In PvP

[chrome panther]

🤷 dont need pvp trinket set when you can kill someone in the span of two globals

[forest kite]

Yeah

Let’s at least applaud the fact that they did the 40pct vers increase already

Way more than what I expected from blizz

[open verge]

I like shadowlands so far, if we'll see some good tuning then its perfect

also curious about the conq cap, if its static or not

[forest kite]

Indeed

[open verge]

if its static then catchup is really nice for alts

[tiny cypress]

jsut picked up the 1500 honor quest, did one bg, got 715honor, only marked off 466, dafuq

[open verge]

as you basically just lose out on the vault items

@tiny cypress it counts honor from HK and from completion

only

I think any bonus honor is not taken into account

[tiny cypress]

it was an AV, so iit doesnt count towers n shit?

[open verge]

yeah

[tiny cypress]

right

ty

was mighty confused

[open verge]

I hate this quest 😄 luckily I won all epic bgs

but they are a freaking joke with that lag

[tiny cypress]

anyone have a spicy feral setup for bgs

[forest kite]

Didn’t have lag

[open verge]

setup of what, talents?

[tiny cypress]

yea

[open verge]

I run the same that I use in arena

[forest kite]

Yeah, for epics go bookmkin feral

Lol

[tiny cypress]

ngl i havent entered pvp in like 2 xpacs

[forest kite]

Being melee in those zergfests is just an excuse to afk somewhere

[tiny cypress]

i mean i took a tower and did my part! 😛

[open verge]

can switch wound to something else

now that thorns work they are great again

[tiny cypress]

oh it actually does damage?

[open verge]

yeah, usually they have to ignore you or die

[chrome panther]

it slaps

fotm rogues are killing themselves on it constantly

[open verge]

btw does it have ICD or nah?

[tiny cypress]

amazing ty

[chrome panther]

yeah it does for sure

[forest kite]

If it didn’t monks would explode\

[obtuse ice]

WW

Most broekn

[tiny cypress]

rets and shamans seem to beat my ass too

[forest kite]

Different class, same approach

Get away from their zugzug, come back when its over

[chrome panther]

think its bad now

wait till they get lust legendary

[thin thistle]

is vision of unending growth useless for pvp?

[forest kite]

That’s the wild growth legendary?

[thin thistle]

2,5% to cast a new rejuvenation one

[forest kite]

Ah that one, yes rng useless piece of crap

[livid wasp]

I hope MM will get a solid 50% nerf

fucking sad and broken class

[forest kite]

Hehe Zechey youre a broken record dude

[livid wasp]

like mm randomly opens on me in bg

with full 185 gear or something

im insta dead almost

[forest kite]

Yup double tap aimed shot does a ton of dog

Dog

[chrome panther]

one trick pony class, survive opener and they flop

[forest kite]

God this autocorrect

[open verge]

Ton of dog dog!

[forest kite]

Hehe

[rancid sundial]

what legendary would you guys pick for resto pvp? Can't find a good guide anywhere. Seems like the lifebloom and swiftmend ones are best, but neither is currently available. I have the rejuv one but seems bad for pvp besides epic bg =/

[chrome panther]

verdant infusion.

[forest kite]

I’m going to go elder Druid, call me crazy

[rancid sundial]

at least it's currently available

seems pretty decent

[obtuse ice]

Apex is NUTS

[chrome panther]

games last long enough to get 3 rips up?

[thin thistle]

fiend what armor piece are you crafting with elder?

[obtuse ice]

@chrome panther if you play Apex

yo ushould tryu

at least 2

[forest kite]

Ive seen some very high rated druids with that legendary, is it hidden gem?

[chrome panther]

already made dark titan 🤷

[forest kite]

Eric I don’t know yet

[thin thistle]

okey i think i will make shoulders because they look good 🤪

[forest kite]

Oh I haven’t looked at the visuals yet

Ill check it out later

@rancid sundial in terms of raw tankiness through guardian affinity elder druid is the best you can have rn, but yeah nothing can beat swiftmend so wait until tuesday to see

[obtuse ice]

@chrome panther but you're heal ?N

[chrome panther]

yes, i am

lol