pvp

[gilded plover]

one match i got a lucky kill with it, its kinda shitty testing queing with randoms

[golden venture]

feral apex or eye for arena?

[gilded plover]

pick the one you like more

[golden venture]

wish i could test this first

[gilded plover]

you can craft the other one later

[golden venture]

apex sounds cool but 4% looks low with few targets

[hearty ingot]

Hey guys, Feral Druid here, got a question regarding Legendaries in PvP, so I'm going for Eye of Fearful Symmetry and not sure if it's best to use it on a Helmet or Gloves

[tardy hare]

helmet

more stats

[hearty ingot]

Alright, cause I saw some high rated people going for Gloves, might have to do with the fact there's a helmet from last boss in Castle Nathria with higher ilvl than most items

not sure

I'm probably going helmet tho

[tardy hare]

could be yeah

am not raiding tho

so helmet gonna be more worth

[hearty ingot]

Yeah you're probably right

[soft valley]

You think eye is the call?

[hearty ingot]

Ohyea definetly, only other useful one I see is Apex and 4% seems way too low

the 2 combo points from a finisher paired with Berserk is insane, gives 4 combo points and you can do huge Ferocious Bite burst

[soft valley]

right, basically spam 3x bites

[open verge]

you mean eye of fearful symmetry or cats-eye

[soft valley]

symmetry

[hearty ingot]

Symmetry

[soft valley]

would you pair carnivorous instinct with it? taste for blood is technically more output but getting 3 dots up beforehand is just clunky

especially with phials going around

[open verge]

@soft valley you want to build 5cp anyway

prior to burst

although having rip up is problematic then

no the pve ones are shit usually

[hearty ingot]

I'm gonna go Carnivorous Insticts and Taste for Blood eventually, think Taste For Blood is betetr on its own than Instincts tho

[soft valley]

Yeah I guess thinking about it - you only need 2 dots up for it to be better than carn

[hearty ingot]

yeah and having Rake and Rip up at all times isn't that hard

[soft valley]

nah not at all

[hearty ingot]

Can always throw in a Thrash before if needed

[open verge]

i dont like carnivorous, feels a bit low

[soft valley]

sudden ambush might be a good pick too

after 3x bites theres a good chance you can follow them up with a big shread

[open verge]

im going with conflux early on anyway

it will be a while for a second potency

[hearty ingot]

Carnivorous scales really well with ilvl

[open verge]

similarly to taste for blood

if not the same, cba doing math

[hearty ingot]

Yeah, I feel like if you get some hihg Mythic+ Carnivorous it's gonna be insane

Which is why I go Taste for Blood first, I feel it's more impactful

Got it

[open verge]

nice

now take it for a spin

how much was the item cost for you?

[hearty ingot]

26k ish

Which Covenants are the Feral Druids playing here?

[grave dawn]

nf

[hearty ingot]

Yeah same, heard Kyrian is pretty strong too, arguably the best, I just feel NF is so much more fun

[sage ridge]

Kyrian has great consistency

[chrome steppe]

whats stat priority for boomie pvp?

[sage ridge]

sure the perfect setup convoke will be good, but hard to get off

[open verge]

nf

[chrome steppe]

mastery vers?

[open verge]

its just that perfect setup convoke ends in a kill lol

[sage ridge]

vers>haste-mast>crit

[open verge]

you dont need perfect

[chrome steppe]

so vers haste

[hearty ingot]

I like mast on boomkins, haste can be really good too

[chrome steppe]

for pve its mast> haste

but pvp i assume its vers x

[hearty ingot]

Vers > Mastery imo, some prefer haste tho

the values are pretty close, Haste is just for more dot ticks which results in more Shooting Stars procs

while Mastery is more burst

[sage ridge]

getting a mix of both haste and mastery and 1 piece of + or - haste/mastery wont break anything

[small storm]

@stray sigil did u build apex n if so how does it feel

[sage ridge]

having some haste dot ticks isnt really important as much as clone cast time

getting to 10% or whatever ish for 1.5s~ clone is good but shouldnt make or break you

[chrome steppe]

theres just a lot of choices for pvp

haste/vers or mast/vers

so just wondering

[hoary valley]

NF is probably better than convolk tbh

i mean better than kyrian

soulshape is honestly 2 good

[main minnow]

How is Apex in pvp?

[remote cave]

Best stats for Feral in Pvp??

[chrome panther]

vers/mast.

[hearty ingot]

Versatility > Mastery

[remote cave]

You da best 🙂

[hearty ingot]

So, anyone has any idea how to beat Rogues in arena atm or are they just a lost cause?

[remote cave]

Sub is crazy right now

[hearty ingot]

Yeah it's nasty, I waited for him to open on my warrior, then I rake him, he instantly swaps to me, pops Cloak of Shadows, Shadow Dance and just global me

Through Barkskin

it's crazy

after a few Arena games I can definetly recomment Eye of Fearful Symmetry tho, it's insane with Berserk

[graceful quail]

should I prioritize Apex Predator's Craving or eye of fearful symmetry for pvp

[wraith lantern]

symm for pvp

[graceful quail]

what stats

can I even pick stats

[wraith lantern]

i put it on vers/mas . you have to buy the missives or craft them if u are inscriptor

[graceful quail]

and can I somewhat use it effectively in m+?

or is it only pvp good

[storm bridge]

do we know if the swiftmend legendary worldboss the first one to spawn?

[wraith lantern]

yes , you can use it . you are not toping dps either way lol 😛

[graceful quail]

true

alright last question, head or hands

[azure scaffold]

what legendary are we getting for feral pvp boys?

[graceful quail]

scroll up xd

[azure scaffold]

symmetry ?

[wraith lantern]

Head

[graceful quail]

damn head is 70k on my realm

@wraith lantern does it matter if I go hands? or should I just grind out the gold

[wraith lantern]

u will lose stats . thats the only difference . which profession u have ? i pay for it selling low level enchants :3

still in my server head was 10k lmao

[graceful quail]

engi, but I got gold on alts i forgot

[coarse ferry]

Vers-haste, or vers-haste/mastery mix for resto?

[graceful quail]

man it costs 2k soul ash wtf

how can I craft it

i got 1.52k

[open verge]

did you get a higher ilvl item?

[graceful quail]

....

fuck

[wraith lantern]

mmmm if you farm torghast weeks 1 and 2 you should have enough

[graceful quail]

yeah i got the 210 helm

idiot

[wraith lantern]

hahaha

rank 2

[graceful quail]

rank 1 is also 70k...

[chrome panther]

vers haste 100%.

[coarse ferry]

Oath still looking good for cat/convoke in 2s and bear/triple frenzy regen in 3s?

[chrome panther]

ive heard its pretty awkward to use

[hoary ledge]

Can anyone confirm drop rates? Only ran mists twice on mythic and haven’t seen it drop, had 3 druids second run as well. Considering just switching to guardian and spamming it

^ regarding Timeworn dreambinder lego

[cold vale]

Psure it's a low drop chance. I've done that dungeon 6 times without seeing it and I know some other people have had to run their dungeons for their legendary 45 times to get their drop

[shadow dagger]

what are good feral comps to push high rating for in 3s

[chrome panther]

jungle, f/m/p, kittycleave

[hoary ledge]

Feral aff lock going to be nice too

[chrome panther]

feral should be good to push with basically any other dps i think

feral/shadow priest might be pog

[shadow dagger]

what healers are good for themn

[hoary ledge]

Disc is ideal for jungle / feral mage

Shaman for feral lock

[shadow dagger]

what about kittycleave

is that feral/warr?

[hoary ledge]

Yeah it is

Disc or hpal

hpal kinda weak rn comparably though

[shadow dagger]

what's easier to play

jungle, kittycleave, or feral mage?

[mint vessel]

Any good rdruid guides out for cov, soulbind, gearing etc ?

for s1 sl

[sage ridge]

@hoary ledge disagree

aff lock is in a garbage state atm

[nocturne axle]

so is rdruid garbo

[sage ridge]

@shadow dagger fmp is the hardest of the three

[chrome panther]

rdruid is great.

take floral recycling for THICC swiftmends

half of the 5iq rogues rn just kill themselves on thorns

[queen drift]

what talents do you use as resto druid?

for bgs/arenas

[cunning sedge]

what's the use of guardian spec in arena ? is it a kind of meme is some dark magic 😈

[forest kite]

guardian is the pro pvp spec

[nocturne axle]

@chrome panther tf is floral recycling?

[heavy cairn]

What healer will be best with boomkin/ele/x in 3s? Or with boomkin comps in general

Kitty cleave is by far the easiest you mainly zug. FMP and jungle are a little more setup and kill. Both will probably require stun off target stun main target pump but setting up for a mage is a lil tougher where as hunters can cc for themselves pretty consistently

@shadow dagger

[chrome steppe]

rsham

will own

in arena

spam cast

hex

[coarse ferry]

I run thorns, master shifter, and whatever I feel like. Usually lifebloom in arena, wild growth in bgs. That slot is pretty flex though imo

[stray sigil]

@small storm apex a blast in dungeons havent done much pvp yet

[hoary ledge]

Hpal @heavy cairn

[small storm]

hm ok

ive heard good things about it in dungeons

[coarse ferry]

Thorns is a must, every brain damage rogue kills themselves if you survive the burst.

[small storm]

looking for some pvp lego input, want to find a good balance between raid m+ and pvp while also focusing on raid

[coarse ferry]

Cats Eye seems pretty reliable and flex, but it isn't going to be top in either content, but such is the way of you aren't looking to min/max for a specific for form of content and want something fair in all modes of play.

I personally don't like Apex for pvp.

Oath/Sym would be my pure pvp picks.

Apex/Circle for pve

[shadow dagger]

is there a good weakaura for tracking DRs?

on your target

[nocturne axle]

gladius?

[feral urchin]

any set in stone resto legos for arena yet?

[shadow dagger]

oh i didnt know gladius could do that

[coarse ferry]

Spec?

[open verge]

valorant legendary ofc

[shadow dagger]

what is the DR reset time

[feral urchin]

I said resto

Lol

[open verge]

verdant @feral urchin

[feral urchin]

ok

ty

[nocturne axle]

when is verdant available?

[open verge]

mythic week if the world boss is up

[nocturne axle]

and i assume drop chance is shit

[open verge]

nah its pretty high

supposedly

[nocturne axle]

so don't craft lego

until verdant?

[open verge]

or try to get it

if not then craft

[coarse ferry]

Reading fail sorry... swiftmend(verdant). I'm leaning towards Oath personally. Defensively in 3s Oath is going to be so strong. It's flex for 2's if you play aggressive and go feral opposed to standard guardian.

Frees up bash for 2s and still let's you hotw+convoke as cat.

[feral urchin]

Hmm ok

[coarse ferry]

3s it gives you x3 frenzy regen if you have the conduit to support the 3rd, every minute or so

[small storm]

feral oath for pvp?

that cant be good can it

[coarse ferry]

As resto?

[nocturne axle]

ofc is it is 2s?

[coarse ferry]

I mentioned using it only in 2s, you get bash instead of hotw giving more self setups for cc/convoke. Convoke 2min cd oath is 1min. It will always line up for a convoke if you setup correctly in 2s

[nocturne axle]

wait

i went necro was that a mistake?

[open verge]

as resto?

[coarse ferry]

No

[fringe summit]

Any idea when the good resto pvp legendarys come out

[coarse ferry]

Verdant I don't see needed AS much as Night fae since in 3s I can still use a convoke for emergency heals. You don't need a full channel to help recover. A full channel just secures your entire team as topped off from my personal experience. A good 2 seconds is all I need usually. Just make sure you cancel it once your mate gets recovered enough; to juke the incoming interrupt/silence

[nocturne axle]

so necro was a mistake

[coarse ferry]

Should be clearly stated, that route isn't as safe as verdant all the same.

Are you resto?

[nocturne axle]

yes

[chrome panther]

Its a conduit.

[coarse ferry]

Nah, necro still good sir.

[chrome panther]

NF for the extra blink is enough for me to take it.

necro is still good though

[coarse ferry]

Yeet, displacer beast made me take it lol

[livid wasp]

I feel its easy to waste combo points with symmetry

takes time getting used to it I guess

[chrome panther]

also

feral aff hotw convoke

instagibs

when some dumbass ret follows you behind a pillar

[coarse ferry]

Just to be clear necro isn't bad either. It's probably the better pve option. It's also way more fire/forget passive type play than what convoke offers. Less likely to screw it up and be the reason you lose a match etc.

Necro likely to get a buff to either the ability or more likely soulbinds next tuning pass as well.

On extended patchwork fights they sim close to the same, but damn those soulbinds are rough. At least as a purely offensive outlook goes.

[thick rampart]

Convoke is a risky pick for arenas. Especially 3s. There’s already a weak aura out there to stop it. Necrolord will be what rankers go

As resto that is

It will be a mini game that might be fun tho

Convoke set ups

[chrome panther]

play with wizards and setup convokes

🤷

[placid mirage]

As long as your convoke doesn't yolo the other person

[coarse ferry]

Agreed, high risk/reward. It's 100% tied to how well your team makes the opening for you. Offensive or defensively. Use it wrong and you can cost the match yourself, imo.

[chrome panther]

as feral aff its pretty good at not hitting what you dont want to kill

[true pendant]

Verdant iinfusion isnt good what

[placid mirage]

Yeah that's true

[chrome panther]

and it doesn't target things that are sapped, incapped, or rooted.

[placid mirage]

Boomkin you'll hit cyclones lol

[acoustic nebula]

Anyone else having Convoke buyers remorse and wanting to switch to kyrian now?

[coarse ferry]

You shouldn't boomkin aff as resto though lol

At least in pvp

[chrome panther]

eh

it has its uses.

if you run oath of the elder druid i think you get 28yd cyclones

[placid mirage]

O I missed the rest of the convo mb

[chrome panther]

pretty wild.

[acoustic nebula]

Vortex typhoon

[thick rampart]

Against Caster cleaves boomy aff is good

[coarse ferry]

I suppose I'd still prefer guardian in the aspect personally

[unkempt lintel]

yo any recs on a resto legendary

[thick rampart]

Oath will be the meta for season one. Soooo bursty right now

Def if you went convoke

[coarse ferry]

3 frenzy regens every 90sec?

With oath

[chrome panther]

also flat 10% dmg reduction

[thick rampart]

Plus vers

[chrome panther]

BRETTY GUD

[coarse ferry]

Not sure the cd on conduit trigger for the third though.

[acoustic nebula]

Yseras gift though

[chrome panther]

well-honed instincts?

this is really just talking about resto, balance/feral probably want other legendaries.

[coarse ferry]

Yes sir

[chrome panther]

juicy

[acoustic nebula]

Balance will run guardian aff though, so wouldn't it still be good because frenzy regen

[true pendant]

Does FR from conduit puts FR on cd?

[chrome panther]

Timeworn Dreambinder gives them another surge during their burst

[true pendant]

Assuming u play guardian aff

[chrome panther]

i haven't tested yet actually

I dont think so though

[coarse ferry]

No

[acoustic nebula]

No it's free

[true pendant]

Thats op lul

[acoustic nebula]

10% flat dam redux

Op

[chrome panther]

you still get walked by sub lul

[acoustic nebula]

Turns 1000000 to 900000

[coarse ferry]

Frenzy regen doesn't have cds for uses it has charges and cd for charges

[chrome panther]

It doesn't take a charge tho

[coarse ferry]

Ie you can FR twice in a row as long as you have 2 charges. The conduit procs no matter your form though.

Travel, cat, chicken, standard...will all frenzy regen in those forms

[chrome panther]

yup, its basically a weak cheat death

saves my ass every arena against rogue or mm

[coarse ferry]

And that conduit amplifies your self regrowths/FR charges used in bear. Really stronk

Like probably going to get nerfed stronk at some point maybe not s1 due to burst currently, but I suspect it later lol

[chrome panther]

well in bear form rn its a 10k heal over 3 seconds

assuming your around 180 ilvl

probably affected by vers also

[coarse ferry]

With guardian affinty+hotw stam boost?

[chrome panther]

nah no hotw

with hotw i have 35k

[coarse ferry]

Just assuming you used oath and dumped your 2 regens during bear swap+focus. That's a hefty self sustain if you kept hots on yourself and wasn't a goober

Not going to avoid the gimmick one shots currently, but still thats a toasty amount every 60s,

[echo crescent]

Druid used to own rouges

[chrome panther]

Baiting oath is gonna be too easy though

[echo crescent]

Was the counter for rouges

[chrome panther]

feral aff resto shits on rogues 🤷

[echo crescent]

I am looking at fairies fire

Good old days

Rouge waste cloak to get rid of iy

It

Then you apply again

Let Rouge do opener

Sit in bear form

Good times 😌

[chrome panther]

The good times before drest + kirian one shots

[acoustic nebula]

Anyone else feel like the 2 pvp trinket bonus not worth when pve trinkets hit for thousands

[coarse ferry]

I mean outside of one shots thorns eat all the bad rogues for me still in bear form lol

[chrome panther]

pve trinkets are nerfed to shit in pvp

[acoustic nebula]

Extra 40% verse on heals is great but doesn't reduce my damage taken so yikes

[coarse ferry]

That pvp trinket bonus is nice, much better than pve currently

And damage done*don't forget that part

[storm locust]

what legendary was BIS again for feral pvp ?

eyeof the fearful right

[echo crescent]

Symmetry people saying

Or oath is good

[coarse ferry]

If you're not pressuring as a healer in some way at some point in a match you probably should be. Unless of course you're just playing survivor against those guys who come out of the gates wings poped looking to lose or win right off the bat lol

[chrome panther]

Symmetry, with how high burst is, Apex isn't worth it

[storm locust]

aight

[chrome panther]

Might change later if they tone down the speed of the game

[storm locust]

i thought deep focus could be kinda good for jungle cleave

[chrome panther]

deep focus is an option but I'm not a fan of limiting myself like that.

If you have a 30 sec rip on a target, you're kinda forced into them.

[storm locust]

true true

[chrome panther]

Circle is another option.

Cat-eye curio is fun

[storm locust]

yhh circle looks goodish

[chrome panther]

and Frenzyband could lead to some hilarious pressure-moments with feral frenzy

But most people are saying symmetry for now with how the meta seems to be going

[coarse ferry]

Symm for now, I'm leaning to lyracca(spelling?) With necro if things slow down in later seasons and more of a rot pressure build with a high burst teammate. We'll see though lots of stuff will swap after the burst meta imo*

[ancient mortar]

I am in front of the PNJ to choose my covenant, I am torn between kyrian and fae for feral

[livid wasp]

im not sure if I shouldve gone cat eye and not symmetry

[chrome panther]

NF gives you a second "go", kyrian makes your 1 and only go stronger.

personally i prefer NF for the memes and extra blink

[coarse ferry]

Sym is much better in pvp, cat eye decent in all content though not chart topping in any

[ancient mortar]

yeah i think i might go NF, look so fun

[coarse ferry]

Displacer beast

[livid wasp]

sym feels only nice during tf berserk burst

[coarse ferry]

Nuff said :p

[livid wasp]

after that meh

[coarse ferry]

That's how you play the lego though /shrug

It's the wombo combo setup finisher.

It's not near as strict as convoke to setup either. If you can tie them together absolutely nothing lives lol

[livid wasp]

I hope theyll nerf convoke, its stupid

[chrome panther]

nah

stupid easy to counter

[coarse ferry]

It's stupid easy to counter

It just punishes people who get out of position/baited

[chrome panther]

tho its pretty fun insta-gibbing mdps behind pillars as resto

[coarse ferry]

Or who blow all their cc/kicks in stupid ways to zerg rating. I think it will absolutely carry you to 1800-ish. Beyond that you'll have to use legit setup and possibly burn it defensively as resto

[haughty turtle]

does anybody have any experience between Apex or curio in pvp? its kind of the decider for which i choose to blend pvp and pve

[coarse ferry]

Curio for both. Apex isn't good in this meta imo. Depends on your rating your chasing

if you just want fun and competitive (not pushing 2k) go apex since it's much better in pve

[haughty turtle]

thats what i was leaning towards

curio isnt even simming that far behind apex for me rn

like 50dps

[chrome panther]

None of our legendaries carry us in pvp so

dont stress about it

[muted niche]

chalky you already have curio?

[haughty turtle]

yeah

[chrome panther]

Not like monks 33% haste legendary

[muted niche]

fuck im trying to find a group to spam farm it with hhaha

[coarse ferry]

True statement

[chrome panther]

Seriously yall better pray when monks get their haste on celestial legendary

Gonna be rough

[echo crescent]

Feral problem survivability

[chrome panther]

Kite while you pool energy.

[queen knoll]

Windwalkers are already pretty nuts

[coarse ferry]

Praying for off-spec heals and thorns to carry me thru that

[chrome panther]

vortex > travel form jump > night fae blink

just fucking run

[muted niche]

any horde trying to farm cat eye?

[coarse ferry]

NS+mass entangle maybe just cause you ded if they catch?

[chrome panther]

🤷

[echo crescent]

This is why I miss my bear dps

[chrome panther]

its 33% haste for 20 seconds when they use celestial

[echo crescent]

Who told Blizzard

To make bear n kitty

Separate idk

[livid wasp]

phial 55% heal hot helps a lot

[limpid kraken]

speaking of symmetry lego + beserk. I'm finding that I can almost always bait trinket with stun + convoke. So get defensives/trinkets with convoke and then get the actual kill with beserk + TF

beseker + TF with leggo is actually crazy strong if you got quick fingers and know which to press

[chrome panther]

Also dreamweaver pod works in arena

not sure if thats intended

[open verge]

@limpid kraken quick fingers? 🤔

[livid wasp]

like 90% of ferals are night fae andys meh

[stray sigil]

id go kyrian

but i think we lose our renown

so idk

[coarse ferry]

Stun+convoke won't break trinkets in arena though. You'll just get slapped with instant cc/silence for partners at higher ranking

[open verge]

well you should be able to catch up really quick

[coarse ferry]

Renown is lost, but catchup is in

[open verge]

and its not lost

it just stays with your old covenant

[coarse ferry]

I was meaning your new choice will start over

But it's got catchup in so you can just farm your 2k anima this week to get back up

Opposed to the 1k a week we been doing

[open verge]

I went NF because it was fun and everyone was going kyrian

now it looks that everyone went NF? 🤔

[craggy geyser]

In 2s you could probably get set up a full convoke

[open verge]

also now that we have symmetry kyrian is pretty decent

because you can use it with taht

[craggy geyser]

Also when ranked starts can you que as healer dps? Is it just disabled for skirmishes?

[open verge]

yes

[coarse ferry]

pretty sure almost everyone went NF since launch lol. Every druid I know did, mainly because NF is fun to press and works with all specs

[frank crown]

Healers can only q 3s since like 2 years ago

Skirms

[craggy geyser]

Shame havnt pushed arena since wotlk would have liked to practice in skirms before ranked came out

[frank crown]

I mean 3s will probably be what most people are pushing anyways

So just queue that

[craggy geyser]

Yea but 2s is easier to learn and carry a shit partner

[frank crown]

And if you get good at 3s then 2s is a breeze

Find a partner now and practice in a 3s environment

[open verge]

But it would be easier for him to learn 2s, thats what he's saying

[craggy geyser]

My partner just wants to play 2s lol

[frank crown]

Make sure he is good a peeling lol

[coarse ferry]

3s doesn't get "good" until above 1600 if you're still learning lol.

Until then it's just survive a paladin coming out of the gates with wings going Mongo lol

[chrome panther]

play nf and enjoy the wheelchair class never touching you

its great.

[frank crown]

I'm just saying feral ret is going to be soooooo broken in 2s

[coarse ferry]

Once you get that down your going to climb rating, then it's time to learn setups and swaps. The mongo trains early on scare off a lot of new players early on from 3s though.

In RTS standards you got to climb out of the cannon rush, 6 pool, 2 gate cheese first :p

[chrome panther]

idk 2 racks all in got me to masters at launch 🤣

[coarse ferry]

We don't talk about Terran at launch sir

[frank crown]

I'm actually loving the fast pace

[chrome panther]

whoevers talking about learning though

just keep playing

play with lotsa different partners

dont rage

dont reroll to chase fotm

mechanical skill and game knowledge are the two things you just need to bang your head against to get a hang of

[coarse ferry]

2 racks was bad, then you added bunkers and I wanted to break my keyboard. ;p

[chrome panther]

2 racks all in, SCVs included

[coarse ferry]

Same general mindset applies here though. Getting through the cheese will help you mechanically and you'll be better for it. There is a reason it's seldom ran/done at high levels. It hits a wall eventually

[frank crown]

Biggest thing isn't even the class you play really its how to play against other classes/comps

[coarse ferry]

The teams you do see it from later on try and play it, but play it differently. They won't come out of the gate with wings popped on sight for example lol

[chrome panther]

And eventually finding good partners. Don't force yourself into playing a meta comp, if you find something off-meta but the people you play with are a joy to be around, stick with it.

[patent hamlet]

10,000 matches is really what it takes

just queue

[chrome panther]

When you play 4-8 hour que sessions, you really want to be in voice with people you enjoy hanging out with

[coarse ferry]

Outside of stupid high ranks any comp can generally hit glad

[fallow root]

What’s a good strat facing a Ret pally as a boomkin?

[coarse ferry]

My friends took shaman, dk, hunter to glad so there is that lol

[true pendant]

Last seas?

[fallow root]

I know someone who hit glad on a fury warrior last season

[true pendant]

You could play fury/demo/rdruid to glad

[fallow root]

He was full verse/gushing would with drest

I think he played with a holy pala and a WW

[coarse ferry]

Are you NF as boomkin?

[fallow root]

No, I am Kyrian

[open verge]

he was going to say -- just soulshape bro

[queen drift]

shame

[sage ridge]

Do you guys have a consistent place for finding 3s partners

in the past i've just used the arena group finder

[chrome panther]

skirms until you find some hidden god of their class

[fallow root]

I think running resto affinity for vortex would work on keeping the Ret off of me. Do you want to go mass entanglement?

[chrome panther]

or guardian for incap

🤷 its a rough matchup

[fallow root]

Yeah gotta just try and exploit the wheelchair

I’m almost thinking of respeccing to night fae because every melee has loads of gap closers

[wanton vector]

thoughts on PvP legendary for feral? curio seems like the straightforward choice but im wondering about circle of life and death

[frank crown]

Think you need to be night fae with faerie swarm to disarm. Barkskin hoj if no wings, trinket if wings

[queen drift]

Eye of symmetry is the go-to. cat-eye is QoL tho

[frank crown]

Think I'm gonna play oath

[chrome panther]

What would you pick for pvp resto?

Yeah verdant seems best

16 second cen wards

juicy

Are you just saving and praying we get everbranch as first world boss?

[rich geyser]

what covenants are people liking for rdruid in arena?

[chrome panther]

NF.

[coarse ferry]

3s oath doesn't seem bad defensive, 3 frenzy regens with regrowth+fr boost is nice. +10% dr

NF can just convoke as emergency heals. Not as reliable, but on the flip you don't need the whole channel. From my experience 2sec~is enough for emergency recovery

Cancel cast it after you get what you need to avoid a lock out. Been working pretty reliable for me so far. We'll see if that continues to hold true though.

[tall osprey]

sorry to hop in the middle of this. should I be capping honor for next week to wear the PvP gear or should I just max level my PvE and use that?

[open verge]

ideally both

[coarse ferry]

Both sir

[open verge]

at least cap your honor

[tall osprey]

well thats a confusing answer haha. how do you wear both sets at the same time

[open verge]

uhm

[coarse ferry]

I use 184 with decent vers stats currently. Followed by pvp in spots missing vers

[open verge]

there are pieces that are fine from pve if you can get haste vers its obviously better

we'll see how much the conq cap will be

[livid wasp]

I hate how kindred spirit resets all the time

[open verge]

resets?

[mossy cloud]

Best PvP legendary for resto?

[open verge]

verdant

[coarse ferry]

Verdant or oath (cov/team) dependant on the later

[open verge]

verdant seems jsut too good to pass up

i dont think it matches oath

[fallow root]

BOAT good for boomkin PvP?

[mossy cloud]

Damn I am trying to find a legendary that is good in both M+ and PvP for resto

[hoary ledge]

Timeworn Dreambinder is the move for PvP it seems

As boomy

[coarse ferry]

Not oath here :p. Verdant

[livid wasp]

like when I switch zones

or go to arena again

I have to reapply it

each time

[mossy cloud]

@coarse ferry are you saying Verdant is a good option for M+ and PvP?

[chrome panther]

its not bad for m+. 16 second cen wards on tank are goodshit

and it frees a gcd reapplying whatever swiftmend eats

[mossy cloud]

Nice ok

How about CoLD?

[acoustic nebula]

Swiftmend won't eat with it?

Though

[hoary ledge]

So true

Before every game too it’s wack

Or after a hearth

So obnoxious

[chrome panther]

swiftmend eats regrowth or rejuv, verdant stops it from doing that.

people aren't sure what to do and want reaffirmation for their choices

[acoustic nebula]

Yes I think I misread your GCD comment, since it would save you like 3-5 gcds by continuing all hots

[chrome panther]

Saves gcds andtons of mana

[mossy cloud]

I’d say 65% M+ and 35% pvping - trying to push 2k+ and high keys

[open verge]

@vestal citrus funnily enough most of the people asking these are neither 😄

[mossy cloud]

20-30

[chrome panther]

thats a big range 😆

[mossy cloud]

I feel like Verdant might be the best bet

Yeah let’s say 20 then

[chrome panther]

just go verdant now and pickup circle later

w/e

[restive jungle]

best feral pvp legendary?

[chrome panther]

symmetry 🤷

[stone nest]

I’m having a lot of fun with oath

[echo crescent]

Which soupbinds for

[acoustic nebula]

Oath leggo + feral aff for resto pvp with Convoke? 1v1/ bg/ 2v2

[echo crescent]

NF

You guys going for

[acoustic nebula]

I thought you were having a stronk bud

[echo crescent]

Ferals needs more survivability

I think

We have enough burst

With xonvoke n berserk

[chrome panther]

if NF, niya mastery is stronk

i think its worth something like 25% mastery

[echo crescent]

Mastery or Crit?

[chrome panther]

gear vers/mast

[stone nest]

The frenzy regen conduit is soo nice with the current crazy burst some classes have

[chrome panther]

you need vers to live.

[acoustic nebula]

Yes hopefully they make the 40% trinket bonus affect damage taken

[open verge]

It saves lives @stone nest

[stone nest]

I feel like I can go feral affinity (if no sub rogue) and not get stomped.

[echo crescent]

M thinking oath is good

[mossy cloud]

@open verge Ralph pls go

[open verge]

No

[mossy cloud]

It’s an ancient meme but it checks out

[open verge]

It's been a while

[mossy cloud]

Alrighty boys I’m just gonna roll with Verdant and then if I want something to be more focused for higher keys I’ll think about picking up Dark Titan

[brave quarry]

Hi, what is the best legendary for resto? 🙂

[open verge]

Wow

[acoustic nebula]

Lol

Can we get a pin

Please

[open verge]

Fearful symmetry

[acoustic nebula]

^

[brave quarry]

So Verdant? 😄

[acoustic nebula]

Is focused growth a trap? I see people saying it is 3x lb but it's not, and you have to cast 3x to get the buff up on each target

[echo crescent]

We can't get a renown seven this week can we

?

[winter spindle]

Mana reduction = good

[tardy hare]

@echo crescentno

[arctic hare]

is kyrian the better covenant for both boomy and feral pvp?

[echo crescent]

I am liking my fae

[winter spindle]

They’re both good for different reasons

[vapid cedar]

NF is so much fun, if you're into that

[fallow root]

Kyrian works for me better.

Both will allow you to do more damage, but Fae has more risk associated

[north rock]

fae works rly good with sub rogue

[crimson plume]

How you boys liking boom in pvp. Thinking of hopping from lock

[open verge]

I dont like it

[north rock]

i like em. i main boomie. with a decent healer in 3s, u can make some awsome setups if u play dancing with the stars.

[fallow root]

I always PvPed as a warrior but I enjoy it. I really like shifting into different forms, that’s fun gameplay for me. Also it’s rewarding chunking someone’s HP with starsurges

[open verge]

I dont like the fact that if you pump surges and they survive, thats pretty much it

youre out of gas

[cursive python]

Any feral bois craft a leggo today?

[open verge]

im crafting symmetry

[cursive python]

Yeah I crafted that today hella fun

[livid wasp]

no idea how to use it effectively in pve

feels like im wasting combo points

when bursting with berserk

[open verge]

how come?

[livid wasp]

like when you use finisher and you get 4 combos

dunno if its best to just bite with those 4 combos or use shred

and go over by 1 combo point

[open verge]

do you normally not shred at 4p? :>

[livid wasp]

during berserk you get 2 combos from shred

[open verge]

ah

[livid wasp]

so its kinda waste idk

[open verge]

yeah its weird

youd just slash

in pvp

or - probably better - 4p bite

[small storm]

i asked a few days ago but i forgot which pvp trinkets i should buy for feral

[cursive python]

Doesnt it give 5 1cp shred 2cp beserk 2cp symmetry

[small storm]

badge and trinket trinket right

[livid wasp]

when you get to 5combos and pop berserk with tf up and bite, you instantly get to 4 combos

for free

then you bite again and its free 4 combos again

ive just been spamming bite in pve too

dunno it doesnt matter in the end, gonna craft apex in 2 weeks for pve

[sullen lichen]

Does a main resto druid streamer exist?

[livid wasp]

trillebartom?

he used to at least

[stray sigil]

@small storm yes badge is very nice

[livid wasp]

guess he plays a lot of different classes now

[cursive python]

Lots of pve ones not many pvp

[winter spindle]

Play new moon

[small storm]

ok sick ty

[sullen lichen]

@zechey thanks, ya he's started making vids again in the last 2 weeks. After his 6 month hiatus

[stone nest]

I feel like a good argument for oath on a resto is the 5 extra yards on your cyclones range.

[winter spindle]

Games are way too bursty, healing is more valuable

[craggy geyser]

do people think the double lifebloom lego will see play in pvp?

[waxen birch]

Hey all just wondering what Legendary ppl getting for RBG (Resto)

[forest kite]

is anyone actually having fun as resto in pvp i can barely get a few hots out before everyone is dead

[stone nest]

It’s a secondary defensive as well and pairs well with the frenzy regen conduit.

[winter spindle]

If it’s going to help you survive all the double MM comps, go for it

[open verge]

hands or head for symmetry? 🤔

[waxen birch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782268972523061279/782684197730123776/unknown.png

Resto is loads of fun atm

im really enjoying the crazy of it all

[stone nest]

I am as well. Vortex, cyclone, roots, and good burst damage makes it a lot of fun.

[waxen birch]

Night Fey when a Rogue is on you. Thorns and covenant ability GG

[winter spindle]

Don’t be afraid to pop incarn ASAP

[waxen birch]

I'm not playing Incarn

[stone nest]

I usually hotw guardian aff when the rogue opens. They can kick the convoke a little too easy at that point

[livid wasp]

ive heard head is best for symmetry

[waxen birch]

makes you such a target

[livid wasp]

so I went with it

[winter spindle]

Are you talking about BGs or arena

[waxen birch]

BGs

havent even touched Arenas yet

[winter spindle]

Ah ok

Arenas are the ultimate honour grind

[waxen birch]

you play Incarn in Arena ?

[winter spindle]

Games last 20 seconds

[waxen birch]

LOL

Necrolord ?

[stone nest]

Went 24-2 today with a sub and a ret. It was a little unfair

[waxen birch]

Damn thats good

[open verge]

skirmishes are a joke tho

[waxen birch]

need someone to give me ins and outs of Arena

I pretty much only do RGB or BGs

[livid wasp]

ive not bothered with skirms at all, so much bullshittery

just waiting for fixes

[open verge]

how much dust is the ilvl upgrade for the leg?

[crimson plume]

Kyrian boomer is the way eh?

[soft mantle]

quick Q for boomy pvp- we take stellar drift or twin moons?

[livid wasp]

think the upgrade is 750

[halcyon summit]

Do you guys try to line up tigers fury and lone empowerment

[livid wasp]

I try to line it with when I know im gonna bite a couple of times and thats often with tf

[last comet]

Is eye of fearful symmetry the leggo to craft for pvp, or can you go with apex predator?

[open verge]

eye is better

so just pick your poison

[mossy cloud]

Damn I’m still conflicted on my legendary choice for a mix of PvP and M+... I’m starting to think Memory of Mother Tree might be the best bet for all-around choice. Verdant seems not great for M+

Wondering if you could make a case for Dark Titan in PvP

[chrome panther]

you arent spamming wg in arena

[mossy cloud]

wg?

[chrome panther]

wild growth

and dark titan is just more shit to manage, we're already GCD starved as it is

Verdant saves us multiple GCD, saves mana, and extends cen ward. its pretty clearcut its the best for throughput in pvp

[mossy cloud]

Right but I’m looking for something good for both PvP and M+

I know it’s optimal to have 2 legendaries but I don’t have the time

[chrome panther]

🤷 verdant is fine for m+

and i mean, the time?

torghast takes an hour once a week

[stone nest]

Would anyone have a WA for the oath HOTW?

Or have a source that can show me how to do one

[junior plover]

Ended up going with Apex

its not terrible

ive won a few games off a setup with the proc

ofc i cant tell how many i'd win with symmetry

but im not dissapointed

[mystic wind]

ring or back for Dark Titan's?

[soft mantle]

cool ty

[noble holly]

Assuming it is still the best even if you're not necro? Just wondering cause I know necro throws up a HoT.

[chrome panther]

I dont think being necro changes anything, im NF and i'll be going verdant no question assuming they dont cuck us and put the boss on week 7 or some shit

[noble holly]

Good point. Did you go NF for any reason or did you just prefer NF? I went NF as well but often times feel like I'm gimping myself compared to necro in arena.

[chrome panther]

I play pve/pvp and feral/resto so

NF was the pick

also convoke is fun

swarm is boring

[noble holly]

Seems about the same reason I went with NF. Convoke is extremely fun.

[chrome panther]

hotw feral aff convoke and deleting dumbass fotm rerolling mdps gives me a chub

[daring canyon]

Hey guys - for PvP do you recommend feral or boomkin?

[chrome panther]

both are tricky to learn, but with the meta being so melee heavy you might find yourself having more fun playing feral

boomkin gets trained alot

[daring canyon]

I might just go and play resto 😛

I tried a few BGs as moonkin and yea trained all day

[tranquil raft]

as feral, which piece are you lads putting oath on?

[steel kestrel]

Yoo, guys i got a question, yall think its possible (obv its possible) but like how hard would it be to reach glad as feral?

[carmine berry]

To what extent should i prio versatility over other stats as feral for arenas

got some juicy mythic items with vers, dont wanna forego too much crit, tho

[sage ridge]

vers>everything

every piece should have vers realistically, crit isn't a huge deal

[dire nymph]

Yeah, even among r1 ferals I see them go for different things after vers, and it's usually not crit. Cassidy goes for haste for example and syfoxe usually favors mastery

I'm not good enough to confidently tell you why or what advantages/disadvantages each choice has

[carmine berry]

Cheers

Double pvp trinket trumps all atm, too?

Saw some streamers using cheesy bfa stuff haha

[frank crown]

I should know this but do feral abilities go off weapon damage or just based off stats??

[dire nymph]

I think drest is only still used because nobody has any vers yet. So they don't get much extra damage from the trinket set bonus

[frank crown]

Trying to prioritize my gearing

[rancid bloom]

@steel kestrel feral glad would be ez if you run feral marksman hunter

[steel kestrel]

@rancid bloom really? Cool to hear, ive mained warrior for 5 years and im feeling something new, and feral seems alot of fun and smooth so far! Glad to hear

[carmine berry]

What legs u guys using for feral arena

or would use

[rigid linden]

its been done

[rancid bloom]

@steel kestrel feral is pretty much as rogue in a way but with more healing

[steel kestrel]

Yeah, ive never switched to feral earlier coz ive heard that it gets no love by blizzard

[rancid bloom]

It’s gotten some love this time around

[steel kestrel]

Yep

[rancid bloom]

I’m well behind with my stuff though sadly

Haven’t had a chance to play

[plush schooner]

dark titans is amazing in pvp right now

it applies a permenent focused growth

that doesn't get removed when arena starts

and also is never removed even when lifebloom is done

obv will be patched

[halcyon summit]

why are all the ferals getting pvp legos instead of pve ones?

oh this is the pvp channel rofl

[harsh jasper]

Any idea of good 2s partners for ferals or is it still too early?

[rigid linden]

@vestal citrus shhh

maybe i did craft the wrong helm

and put it up on AH

whats it to u hehehe

[small storm]

LOL

good ol formy

this is the guy leading us to the feral promised land

[rigid linden]

:D

Stealing thaty

ty

[steel kestrel]

What are ur guys’s binds for all dru forms?

Hmm

[small storm]

shift z shift c shift x shift v

[hasty dome]

Shift scroll up / shift scroll down

[steel kestrel]

Oo i like that

[hasty dome]

Shift middle click travel form

[steel kestrel]

I have middle click, shift middle click and crtl middle click

Feels kina clunky at some points

[hasty dome]

For longest time it was back row of mmo mouse, but on FPS mouse now with 3 side + 2 top

Might have to order another scimitar mmo mouse if I can’t figure out solid target party 123 and arena 123 hot keys that aren’t awkward

IRL friend that’s more serious pvp lost his fucking mind when he found out I was using mouseovers in arena, so gotta switch

[brazen lake]

what rdruid comps you guys playing this season

around glad range

i was thinking wmd maybe

rmd

[hasty dome]

Think most the rdruids jumped to rsham lol

Not mad. Rsham deserves to shine.

[forest moss]

I think my friend did rmd

not sure rn

[timber escarp]

Has anyone figured out the optimal setup for boomy talents in RBG's? did some dmg testing today myself and fighting between incarn and sotf.

no talking 2400 + rbgs

i think that opening teamfight is most important

[chrome steppe]

yo night fae people

do you have to switch back into form after you soulshape

[timber escarp]

no

just continue as if you were in that form

[chrome steppe]

if you are in bear form and use soulshape and get kidney'd does it take on being bear?

[timber escarp]

That's a good question

[vital hornet]

Any1 have a resource that they're using for resto druid in arenas? I can't seem to find anyone online that makes like a guide or something of that nature.

[stone nest]

https://www.wowhead.com/restoration-druid-pvp-guide closest thing I’ve found

[tiny oar]

Theres not a whole lot of actual guide material for rdruid atm that's up to date, skillcapped youtube video is the most recent I think.

Best advice I think would be to just watch streamers and ask questions, flop, minpojke, metaphors, gorecki are all good to learn from. The stream is the guide basically @vital hornet

[mint schooner]

So in arenas as feral I open and immediately get blown up through instincts/other def cd's any suggestions?

[harsh jasper]

Again ? :(

I dunno

I just can never ever ever find a disc priest

Maybe double convoke feral for the lulz

Just something different lol

[green plank]

Are u guys spamming arena on Tuesday for the 2400 push? Or doing PVE content first before pushing

[lucid spear]

Man they should just make that part of the PvP talent.

[green plank]

Probably good thought

[tiny oar]

O_O yea what glyph said m+ until ur bis stats every slot of gear lol have fun

Raiding 🤢

What a game we're playing huh

But yea need hc for conduits n weapons anyways

Maybe trinkets too? I didn't have beta so idk if they'll be busted enough with tuning to make it worth losing pvp trinket bonus. We'll see I guess.

That's good news at least, 1 min badge is pretty sick yea

Yea seems not worth when u got a badge that's like lower cd and increases dmg/ healing by 20% or whatever it is for the duration on top of set bonus

[woeful burrow]

Hi guys, what legendary would you recommend for resto druid in pvp?😃

[tiny oar]

Verdant infusion @woeful burrow swiftmend extends all hots

From a world boss so not out yet atm

[woeful burrow]

Yeah! Ty

When will they add world bosses? We got any info on that?

Is it same as raid? Next week?

[tiny oar]

On raid release yea

[woeful burrow]

Can be hard 1 to get for some time then I guess as you never know which world boss will be active? And if it's 100% drop?

As in BFA there was 1 boss each week on rotation? Is it same in SL it could take month be it spawns and maybe not 100% drop?😓

[tiny oar]

Only 4 world bosses initially so 4 week rotation max, I think I've been hearing memories from world bosses will be 100% drop rate, not sure tho I'll try to find a source for it

[woeful burrow]

So hard to know if it's worth waiting for or if you should go for something else in start 😬 any second best lego?

[hoary ledge]

@vestal citrus you going vers haste on dreambinder?

is chest the best spot for it?

Got my drop tonight

yeah makes sense

[tiny oar]

"The more repeatable the content is, the lower the drop chance of the Recipe. If the source is a World Boss that's up once every 4 weeks, it will be a 100% drop."

From wowhead legendary drop locations article

[hoary ledge]

Thanks for the reply bro!

I was 0/2 in mythic and it dropped in heroic tonight

Super lucky it seems

[tiny oar]

Yea they got rid of the daily heroic lockout 2% still sounds nuts tho

[analog granite]

just have to grief 50 runs as tank :---)

[tiny oar]

Thank god mine is a 100% chance I'd go insane if I was one of those clown ass cats farming 50 spires for a curio

[livid wasp]

Blizzard enforcing griefing

[analog granite]

i am one of those clown ass cats

[woeful burrow]

Lakerz what are you going for?😃

[tiny oar]

@woeful burrow worst comes to worst n we got enough ash for a r3 / 4 verdant and r1 of something else and theres no world boss up yet- I'll just make a circle for general multispec pve shit and wait til ardenweald boss is up

We're doing pve shit only for the first couple weeks of the season anyways so not too worried about it

[woeful burrow]

Ahh ty! 👍🏻

Is there any good guide out yet for pvp resto? Or where to find easy info? Can't seem to find any

Is haste -> mastery -> versatility the right stat order?

[tiny oar]

Most recent is probably the skillcapped youtube video, not a whole lot other than that unfortunately. Watch streams ask questions n learn that way. Flop minpojke gorecki metaphors all good rdruids

I'm prolly forgetting a couple eu boys but I ain't an EU player

[woeful burrow]

Ty guys! To bad as I am an EU player 😃

[tiny oar]

Flop usually streams pretty late at night for US so between him n minpojke u should be aight

Worst case u cant make either stream n just sub for the vods; that's what I did to learn from gorecki

[small storm]

pvp stuff is open when

heroic week or mythic

[plain herald]

This coming tuesday

[small storm]

so conquest gear farm is on tuesday?

200+ gear?

[tiny oar]

Yea imagine getting pvp geared from pvp how SILLY MIKE

Also curious how many pieces we gonna be able to get per week tho yea

[small storm]

well only useful honor piece is r7 wep 197

but good point conq cap

[tough sundial]

what lego are people crafting for pvp?

feral that is

[icy rock]

Rdruid checking in on lego and covenant this week with focus being 2v2 - necro and swiftmend extender?

[tiny oar]

Yup both still the play

[tough basin]

@tough sundial i believe cat eye curio, but i may be wrong

[livid wasp]

Symmetry is what people go for

Dunno if it was the right choice for me, then again havent tested its full potential yet I guess

[slow sentinel]

Is Necrolord the best covenant for Feral?

[forest moss]

I think it can be good with all your dots running with AS but convoke is doing a lot of decent burst too

[icy rock]

If you are necro feral, still Sabertooth over lunar inspiration?

For arenas that is

[spring scarab]

super basic trick question...

how is feral shaping up so far? thinking of re-rolling.

decent in 2s/3s?

[chilly prism]

@slow sentinel i think Venthyr / Fae is the best for PvE.. Not sure to.

[gilded plover]

fae

[tiny oar]

Kyrian is the most consistent covenant for feral but you can make fae work too yea.

[drowsy bramble]

Rdruid is necro no matter 2s and 3s right?

if i would like to try balance and/or feral aswell, whats the suggestion?

[quartz idol]

Anyone know what ferals best legendary is gonna be still?

[slow sentinel]

Seems to be Eye of Fearful Symmetry

[south siren]

what ilvl can we upgrade pvp gear to next week?

[exotic wolf]

I think 190-197

[haughty turtle]

Just came to report my input on leggo. I went curio bc I do pvp and pve. It’s great. Feels great. Energy for days and you have 2 major kill times with it. Convoke ofc and then berserk with MOC means you can bite soooo many times in a row at full damage.

[livid wasp]

Yeah idk it feels it could be better than symmetry

Like symmetry is nice during tf berserk but after that meh

[haughty turtle]

Yeah I never counted my max damage bites today. I should have. Not only do you have the energy to get in quite a few, you’re getting clearcasting pretty frequently on top of the 190 energy pool

[livid wasp]

I do prefer FF over moc tho, on-demand bite every 45 sec is good

[scenic sparrow]

Necro, if not go fae.

[haughty turtle]

Yeah ff is good for sure. I’ve just been running different talents in the bottom row to try them all out with curio. I’m pretty well talked out of BT for all content right now. Maybe BT later.

[forest kite]

@vocal bobcat for feral pvp: "apex predator's craving" or "eye of fearlful symmetry"? what do u think

[haughty turtle]

Apex is not good for pvp

[forest kite]

not good at all?

[haughty turtle]

Tbh it’s my opinion that it’s nearly a waste of a legendary power in pvp. You’re gonna have a 4% chance to proc 1 free bite? How many targets are you actually getting rip out on?

Too unreliable

[forest kite]

yeah, thats true

[mossy orbit]

Winning against double rogue be like

[lime light]

Did they fix thorns yet

[chrome panther]

Its gonna be a fun and quick grind to 2k with how bad the average mdps is right now.

[mossy orbit]

Omfg it feels so fucking good

[open verge]

@lime light they did

btw do you guys think conq cap will be static? I was so sure its gonna depend on rating like in previous expansions but perhaps its static this time

would be nice because you're never behind

[mossy orbit]

Next week 200 Arena Gear unlocks, together with rating, right?

[tardy hare]

Yes

Only thing i know is that you need 5000 conquest before you can buy the weapon

[sacred knot]

If I plan on PvP more than PvE do I craft Fear Symmetry instead of Apex legendary?

[open verge]

I would

[queen ferry]

Yo for pvp gear in Battlegrounds whats best upgrading pvp gear to max or higher item level?

[open verge]

I did and it feels awesome

[sacred knot]

Yea it looks so much more consistent and also viable on boss fights in mythic dungs

[queen ferry]

Trying to get the best edge in pvp and not sure which way to do it atm

[rigid linden]

From being sketchy on Symm

it feels amazing once i made it

holy moly

[sacred knot]

you wanna upgrade the pvp gear for vers @queen ferry

@rigid linden yea im gonna do it

[queen ferry]

gotcha ty

[tardy hare]

So confused during berserk

Why do i have 4 combo points

Huuuh

[south urchin]

it didnt crit

[sacred knot]

what do i write on ah to get the head for symm?

[queen ferry]

Which do yall feel like is better for arenas boomkin or feral?

or just depends on comp

[open verge]

Feral will have far fewer comps imho

[queen ferry]

^

without a doubt

[sacred knot]

haaha 22k fuck me dude

[open verge]

And tbh they're quite different

[sacred knot]

like who is gonna be able to pay that

i dont do any professions whatsoever

never been into it xd

how then

gather? same thing for me xd

dont have a guild that does that

what ilvl do you think i need for that like rn

[tiny oar]

Yea literally anything better than no professions lol go grab a fishing pole n fish in between arena queues

[sacred knot]

what do i take for a layer in torghast tho

yea

im ilvl 180 and havent even done mythics this week

WHAT

100k!!!!

thats freeeeee

dunno how strong ther mobs are on 2s tho

what idiot has that kind of gold but not time to get decent gear and jsut do it himself xd

i expected like 10k max

[open verge]

P2w

[sacred knot]

yea

i guess it can pay out that way if you make a lot of gold

just pay for all content

the helmet do be looking kinda sexy doe

xd

looks like smth from lord of the rings

[rigid linden]

tiger soulshape

littt

[tiny oar]

Litty

Unicorn waiting room for me

[edgy shale]

gathering profs ain't bad. mining/herb in the maw is over 100k/h

[open verge]

its not giving me skillups, I imagine I have to start from scratch

[mossy orbit]

Farming is bad, just IRL work 1h more and buy a token from it, is better than 99% of goldfarms

[open verge]

well that's not a terrible idea

my time irl is worth more than the time I spend in the game

but the FUN farming - priceless

[tiny oar]

Always liked farming anyways would rather kill shit for a couple hours than spend irl money idk

[sacred knot]

guys what gems do i use for feral?

[open verge]

I always have, but having a kid changes your perspective on time

[tiny oar]

I just spec balance, put on sum lofi beats, n kill 10000 bugs like the ol runescape days. But yea different priorities changes that 4 sure

[mossy orbit]

just sim

[sacred knot]

o.o

[mossy orbit]

nfr , vers rn

[forest kite]

Where are we putting the timesworn legendary

[winter pollen]

so, which leggo's would be good for bg's? Im using unending growth, but debating switching it for memories of the mother tree, or the affinity one

[ionic temple]

Uhm what class is good with feral in 2s? Playin with an arcane mage friend and just gettin destroyed

[mossy orbit]

Sub Rogue is funny

[tiny oar]

Mother tree + early spring sounds pretty gnarly tbh but either would probably be fine for casual bgs, wouldn't go with elder druid tho @winter pollen

[winter pollen]

oh yeah early spring all the way

[mossy orbit]

True Ferals go Elder

[sudden blade]

for feral pvp is it versa>mastery or how should you stack stats

[winter pollen]

I like vision of unending growth, it just seems that my rejuvs never spread when i need them to

[mossy orbit]

Not good for PvP tho

[tiny oar]

Versa>mast>crit>haste atm @sudden blade

[sudden blade]

thanks alot!

[ionic temple]

And for 3s?

[queen drift]

I'm thinking of crafting Sephuz, 80 flat stats (320 since its all secondary stats) is huge in early xpac and I'll be able to proc it easily as feral or resto sinec I play both

what do you guys think?

[winter pollen]

Okay, i think Im gonna go mother tree because unending growth just procs too unreliably, but at least with mother tree, when I use wild growth I NEED the aoe healing

[queen drift]

feral and resto, pvp and pve

[open verge]

havent you heard, you dont multi spec in sl :>

[queen drift]

probably gonna stay resto afterwards and use feral for WQs and shit

Yeah

[open verge]

or just get a great leg for resto - verdant

[winter pollen]

Oh wait, memory of the mother tree isnt even out until raid right?

[mossy orbit]

Wait for next weeks balance changes

No need for legendary this week you gain nothing from it

[winter pollen]

what do you mean by balance changes?

[open verge]

they'll most likely do some tuning in the mythic week

[austere star]

What do you guys suggest for Balance legendary, make the timesworn or wait for circle to release with the raid?

[lime light]

Disgusting furry apes

[devout frost]

wait until after heroic week @austere star

[austere star]

You figure a lot of tuning will happen then?

[devout frost]

thats what happens during heroic week since its the first time blizzard gets actual quantity stats on performance

[austere star]

Alright, thanks!! I’ll wait a bit in that case

[gentle trout]

As balance in arenas, If i need to switch targets and try to focus someone down , but I have no CDs to pop - do I just 2x wrath or sf to enter eclipse and dot? And then continue spamming? Or am I better off slamming wrath?

[exotic wolf]

anyone in here that can explain to me how "Mind Games" interacts with your heals as resto?
Does the Mind Games cast work on heals casted after Mind Games went off, or does it convert already existing heals into dmg/dmg into heals etc..

does a weakaura or anything exist that alerts you vs mind games like the one that helped you against maledict?

[devout frost]

@exotic wolf it only works on heals casted when its on you

[spiral bough]

does anyone know what ilvl will the rated pvp be upgraded to? all the guides seem outdated(they say the gearing starts at 190 while the vendors sells 200) and will it cost honor or conquest

[devout frost]

@spiral bough wdym

max ilvl?

[spiral bough]

max ilvl and the ilvl you will get at renown 7 or whatever you unlock next week

for example this thing :https://www.wowhead.com/guides/shadowlands-pvp-vendor-rewards-honor-conquest-upgrading-gear

[open verge]

not max, 184

[devout frost]

Renown only matters for honor gear

[spiral bough]

has the wrong numbers in it

[devout frost]

conquest gear gets upgraded with honor but to unlock higher ranks you need higher rating like in bfa @spiral bough

[spiral bough]

ah, i see, and i presume to get max ilvl you need to get 2.4k

what will be the ilvl you can upgrade at 2.1k?

[quartz pumice]

Any dedicated resto pvpers on righ tnow?

[devout frost]

im not 100% but i think the max is 220 or 226 @spiral bough

[spiral bough]

i see, at least do we know the conquest cap?

[devout frost]

it was 9350 during last week of beta @spiral bough

[latent gust]

Is there a good resto pvp guide around?

[exotic wolf]

@devout frost so any previously casts, before I got "Mind Games" are perfectly fine?
Is Mind Games dispelable?

[open verge]

yes

[exotic wolf]

then I should check why BigDebuffs doesn't show it on my frames

[open verge]

to your second question, but to the first, if you have hots up, they will dmg instead

[exotic wolf]

eh

this would mean that the first answer from seev was wrong.

If I pop an emergeny overgrowth, and get "Mind Games".. that would mean my heal target is fucked

If I have no dispel up

oof man, just oof