@open verge What do you mean? Doesn't the honor capping allow you to use honor to upgrade conquest gear too once you get it?
#pvp
quartz pumice
open verge
There's no conquest gear before 9th of dec
quartz pumice
Ah got ya! Makes sense now. But eventually having the honor will be good for that?
devout frost
The biggest problem for jungle is that a lot of classes got buffs while survival hunters were left in the dust
You cant upgrade xonquest gear @quartz pumice
With honor
quartz pumice
Ah, thought I Just saw a videowith this, maybe I misunderstood.
deft sandal
devout frost
Conquest gear gets upgraded dependant on your rating @quartz pumice
Necro @deft sandal
devout frost
@open verge misunderstand me right
open verge
🤔
charred copper
do we go haste/vers or mastery/vers as rdruid ?
jolly lion
He be zug zugging
slim glade
why can balance 60% me in 1 starsurge
lime light
cuz its broken
spiral jacinth
is Night Fae>Kyrian for Feral double dps 2v2? surv partner
summer kettle
tardy hare
Strong ones
knotty dragon
Is there any guide for Feral PVP as well, or just Balance?
spiral jacinth
is Night Fae>Kyrian for Feral double dps 2v2? surv partner
carmine berry
Anyone else using gladius? If so, do you know how to remove blizzard default arena frames?
true zinc
does anyone here play rDru and other healers in pvp?
tough basin
@spiral jacinth depends, if you’re able to CC both targets at the same time it allows you to get a full convoke channel off which can be massive, but the kyrian allows you to apply kill pressure more often. Depends on your play style and if you trust your partner or not
slate furnace
@pallid coral how do you get a marksman hunter to carry you?
spiral jacinth
thanks ❤️ @tough basin
stone nest
Good comps with resto?
Also would the damage retaliatory work well against melee? Does it do any worthwhile damage?
forest kite
what covenant is best for resto in pvp?
green quartz
Necrolord
cold vale
god, there is no better feeling in this game than beaming a nightfae moonkin's convoke on frame 1
they just /afk insta
obtuse ice
exotic wolf
my resto fellows in here. which legendary do you guys craft on reset?
livid wasp
is it some bug with details or is kindred empowerment really just like 2-3% of all dmg when using it linked?
and bursting at the same time as them
true pendant
Does the swiftmend leggo only drops from raid?
noble quail
Pretty sure it’s world boss no ?
obtuse ice
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
open verge
@true pendant
vital hornet
When is that worldboss up?
livid wasp
@obtuse ice wtf is stomp
livid wasp
Faeline Stomp adds an AoE damage filler skill into your rotation, which is good. Brewmaster Monk's ability to deal AoE damage is not very competitive among tanks, and design-wise, this really fills a major hole in the class' toolkit.
that? idk
obtuse ice
IDK man
forest kite
anyone know wich conduit and leggo best for resto pvp? for 3s mainly
double lifebloom leggo? swiftmend not yet available as verdan ionfusion
rich flicker
How would you duel against a kyr sub rogue as a feral fae Druid
hardy apex
What are stat priorities for resto pvp in 9.0? Haste/Versa?
Is there a soft cap for haste or anything for an extra rejuv tick or anything??
Just coming back to the game from a long time ago lol
hardy apex
So Mastery over haste then or nah?
quasi shadow
is feral good in this patch?
lethal hearth
Not as good as shadow sub or mm
small storm
its S tier
wooden summit
Sorry if this has been answered but what is the Druid PvP stat prio for Balance these days? (Night Fae if it matters). My instinct is that it's Vers>Mastery=Crit but idk i'm bad
I've seen a few guides with different stat prios
Thanks. For casual BGs (for now, may do more group pvp later on) what pvp talents would you suggest? 🙂
icy rock
Is there a site that allows me to review covenant choice statistics for classes and specs? Still torn between NF and necro for resto
open verge
yeah
sage ridge
oh shit badge is 1min not 2
can just macro to kyrian, thats so nice
Necro for balance pvp seems really interesting
I may be running with a spriest for 3s, necro+evolved swarm+cycle lego seems like
it could be good
but maybe I'll still just go with timeworn and have insane 1min setups anyway
yea
May be doing mythic prog on balance as well, is it a big task to get rank1 timeworn+the balance of all things i need for prog?
sage ridge
yea I just dont want to have to rock that for x amount of time in pvp
icy rock
As in does NF gain value
icy rock
I think necro makes more sense. The soulbinds are better, and it meshes does well with verdant
sage ridge
sucks i have to play with it until I get to r4 boat
icy rock
And I suppose in m+, I’ll just have to get comfortable not having convoke. At least tank heals will be strong!
polar marsh
What fo people assume are going to be the good feral 3s comps
foggy obsidian
do you guys think necro is the best for resto 2v2?
bronze cobalt
hey, question about viability, i like both feral\balance want to play the best one. Would Balance be a safer bet?
ok thanks glyph
noble holly
Night fae friends, I have brought good news.
The mystics of Ardenweld deliver a message of the Chosen One through our abilities icon
frank crown
Overtuned, itll get balanced a bit before raid i bet
frank crown
Think fps will be good this season too
rich flicker
How would you duel against a kyr sub rogue as a feral fae Druid?
tough basin
@vestal citrus if I’m not mistaken, crits got buffed only to 175% no? Seen quite a bit of forum posts and videos stating it was 175 not 200
sacred rock
small storm
whats been the move for feral pvp talents
people liking incarn at all? and sbt vs li?
rich flicker
Atm, I’ve been finding soul and sbt too strong to ignore, especially if you go nfae - bite is most of our burst dmg in pvp, at least at this stage of the xpac
Maybe if you’re going jungle, incarn can shine, but idk beyond that
stray sigil
incarn kinda feels like waste of space atm imo
and li not scaling off mastery/bite being our only dmg makes sbt a must take
lime light
Honeatly shadowlands feels good as expansion
Everything is how it should be, not so grindy feels like mmo
Good pvp gewr
Gear
There is only one thing that is off
tiny oar
Yea just finished leveling my rsham time to game
lime light
0 pvp balance, like one thing that they skipped
Cuz the pvp balance feels like low lvl pvp
U can randomly die to ret in half hoj
That do t have wings
Or few other things
Like off gcd incarn starsurge for 13k crit
bold sinew
boomy here trying to fuck around with feral in BG's, can anyone recommend feral talents?
lime light
Sbt Wild charge resto/Guardian affinity Bash/hotw brutal slash bt/ff
Leader of the pack
F wound
Thorns
bold sinew
thanks 👍
median locust
guys best covenant for arena 2x2, im resto and my partner is a sub
yeah I was torn between the two
any reason necro is better?
omg free ciclone boys
thx a lot for the response ❤️
have a good night sir
rigid linden
@chrome panther if they use pretty much their version of tigers fury the next cp generator always crits
And then then have a potency conduit increases the damage of it by 50% at 150 ilvl
So maybe like 70% at a blue ilvl
That's why hits so hard ;( also if they use it during dance another 30% damage
small storm
going apex or circle for pve, which is better for pvp?
small storm
nah cat eye was being simmed wrong so its not bis anymore
which 2 pvp trinkets for feral?
shadow cedar
what conduits work well with NF feral?
taste for blood?
conflux feels so nice as well
vital hornet
@vestal citrus what is your routine everyday for your 3 characters that you’re only on 30 mins a day
chrome panther
@rigid linden call me salty, but its pretty fucking stupid Rogues get their own personal, exclusive Drest trinket on a 45 sec CD
forest kite
as an rdruid is it worth to craft the lifebloom legendary or wait to get the swiftmend legendary?
ionic temple
<@!108046263307501568> call me salty, but its pretty fucking stupid Rogues get t...
?
hoary ledge
Anyone have any idea what the drop rate for Timeworn Dreambinder leggo is? Didn’t get it on mythic today
tiny oar
@forest kite wait for swiftmend leggo, dont want to craft it until you got enough soul ash for rank 4 anyways so hopefully world boss will be up by then.
forest kite
okay thanks
sage ridge
Glyph, is fury of elune still the play with Kyrian? Thanks for the guide btw
exotic wolf
@tiny oar
thanks for the resto legendary information
queen copper
Anyone else love getting a huge root beam setup into convoke
Only to realise ur kill target got rooted
tiny oar
Yea worst comes to worst and we get cucked on world boss rotation for 5ever and have enough for like a rank 4 verdant and a 1/2 of something else I'll just make a different leggo in the meantime prolly.
Lol sounds like a fun time shrom, I havent done any boomie convokes I'll have to spec boomie aff next tank m0s I run n try it out.
livid wasp
imo circle sounds better for pvp, apex kinda rng with the procs @Madmike
exotic wolf
@tiny oar
Which other legendary would you go then?
all talk about lifebloob. but is there anything else that comes close to the swiftmend one power wise?
tiny oar
I'd like to hear what flop or minpojke say about it but dark titans sounds kinda sketchy pvp mana wise having to maintain double bloom and a germ rejuv.
ionic temple
The kyrian rogue covenant ability.
Oh nice lmao is it broken ?
autumn cape
whats your guys favourite resto conduit?
rigid linden
hmmm
im still torn between
cat eye
apex
or the other eye
decisions decisions 😠
autumn cape
😄
tiny oar
So prolly either circle/elder druid/ sephuz if we cant get verdant for a while @exotic wolf
Apex formy bite bite bite 
livid wasp
4% proc rate from rip dmg seems so damn low though
rigid linden
yeah who knows man
FUCK
REEE
sifox is like
"yeah jsut do 2 back to back 4 cp bites"
seems SKETCH
tiny oar
Symmetry does sound like the most consistent dmg output but man
Imagine apex just proccing 4 times in a row
rigid linden
i kinda wnna go with the cat eye
i was using it on beta
and i just flet like i had unlimited CP
sorry energy
even during berserk
imaghine that with incarn
so many shreds
livid wasp
Same, I hope it wont sim that much lower than the others for pve
stray sigil
can only make 1 leggo next week?
livid wasp
How often will we be able to craft them anyway? Every 2 weeks or so?
Think so
The circle seems nice though, burstier dots
stray sigil
dots 
livid wasp
Maybe theyll be less omegalul with that leggo tho
tiny oar
livid wasp
Never tried it myself so only throwing guesses
livid wasp
Guess apex might be sick tho with dem 3-bite combos
rancid pebble
Resto pvp with night fae what soulbind are people looking at, dreamweaver looks good for the conduit choices and Koran for the flat healing/damage increase based off health
exotic wolf
does circle legendary also work with boomer?
sephuz and elder druid honor vendor recipes. nice!
gilded plover
Apex casino or symmetry shit, I think I prefer gambling
livid wasp
GAMBA
queen copper
so... if you convoke and someones jsut out of range, you cast heals
then u chase them and it launches 4 surges in 1s at them. pretty good
limpid kraken
its actually so broken if you get good at maniulating your form during the cast
erm well, i guess jsut works with going back to caster form
limpid kraken
just cancelform i think
south night
Whats the balance pvp legendary?
tiny oar
Circle for spread dot pressure, dreamweaver for starsurge burst dam
Check pins for more boomie info :)
lilac lichen
RESTO DRUID PVP STAT PRIORITY? Vers>haste?
fresh estuary
How bad is it to enter rated pvp next week with 166 ilvl? I don't have time for m0, just doing some hcs and bgs... I heal with 158ilvl now in bgs but I get bursted down by rogues within a cheap shot-kidney and barskin up... people seem to die very fast too. I guess its the gear. Also, should I cap 15k honor and keep it ?
open verge
If they dont tune shit I doubt you'll notice much difference with the gear you can get.
Just get your 171 set, hoard 15k honor
dont get discouraged from healing because of the current state of the game, like some @true pendant cough
fading iris
adaptive swam needs 1 or 3 purges to get dispelled?
keen ember
pvp gonna be a shitshow until full epic gear full upgraded
autumn cape
RESTO DRUID PVP STAT PRIORITY? Vers>haste?
I will do this.
I like Haste more than Mastery, cuz u are able to DPS better with Haste.
exotic wolf
minpojke just said that he got a report where the world boss with the swiftmend legendary will probably be up when the season starts
@tiny oar
pretty nice if true
tiny oar
Oo ya that's good news if it ends up working out like that
exotic wolf
I'm saving my stuff then.
circle available with raid and I'm tired of farming bloom one despite I'm not even sure if it's that good..
pvp vendor look solid if swiftmend isn't available in the near future
open verge
fearful symmetry
languid knot
so no need to farm cats eye then?
open verge
no
languid knot
I take it that legendary is the best because it gives me more bites quickly?
open verge
yes you can pretty much zerk/tf on 5cp >bite>bite>bite>ff>bite
silent orbit
Im not sure that symmetry would be best leg in PvP...
open verge
we'll see
languid knot
Well 4 people have said it is and icy veins so guess I'm gonna go with that
open verge
at least top players get it
and its available next week
you can always work on your next one
later
livid wasp
Ill prolly go apex first just cause its good for pve
Not so for pvp maybe
Rng shiet
languid knot
But can't get apex for another couple weeks?
livid wasp
Think you can get it from 3rd floor torghast
open verge
both apex and symmetry
silent orbit
Apex is bad for PvP?
languid knot
I have symmetry now tho? Lol
open verge
did you run both wings?
languid knot
Yes
open verge
run it again
perhaps you werent done with your campaign
before you ran your first one
You need to run the upper reaches for apex
languid knot
Ahh okay I do both pvp and pve so I'm still deciding between apex and symmetry
open verge
what comps are you guys running s1?
languid knot
Think I'm doing 2v2 with a rogue
languid knot
Do you run resto or guardian affinity?
open verge
im not a fan of guardian on feral, I like the ohshit button of swiftmend full heal
livid wasp
Same
open verge
sitting in bear feels just bad on feral
livid wasp
And vortex can be a lifesaver
languid knot
Ye thats what I've been playing as. Atm I'm only struggling against shadowpriests they seem so overpowered
tiny oar
RMD godcomp or splay probably 1 of those
open verge
yeah as resto you have more comps 😛
open verge
@vital parcel kyrian is a safe pick, once we get TF leggo it will be even better imho
but im NF personally
just to enjoy it while it lasts, I think you can do fine with both and I'll focus on 2s early on
vital parcel
im feeling equal for both because i like both aesth wise
vapid cedar
i know i need to git gud but it feels so bad just having to sit in bear or get off a few instants. is balance trash in 1v1?
open verge
well idc much about aesthetics so ts just gameplay change for me
fresh estuary
If they dont tune shit I doubt you'll notice much difference with the gear you c...
Thanks
open verge
If we get to 200+ ilvls supposedly it gets better
because it wasnt such a shitshow on beta with 216ilvl
cyan pivot
I just got into pvp overall. Any tips you can give me for Spriest?
primal granite
Hello everyone
i dont see any pinned messages for resto pvp. is there a guide you can direct me to
naive hatch
Is it normal for me to pop convoke in arena and do 80k
naive hatch
Yea no interrupt = dead. But pretty easy to
primal granite
is it nature lock if u get interupted with convoke?
naive hatch
Yea
craggy geyser
What legendary are resto druid crafting week 1?
primal granite
i will craft lycara but im no pro
primal granite
hey glyph thnx for the advice. what do you mean by correct recipe though?
rich crag
@open verge I think might go kyrian as feral i like the abilities so far helpful in a pinch and in the world
60 hunter ganking level 50s levelling just got educated.. haha 🙂
random light
Dested you need the memory / receip in order to craft it.
wowhead has a complete list where you can find each memory.
.
I am looking for second opinions on my covenant choice as a resto druid ms, boomy os that wants to do mostly arena and mythic+
I chose necrolords because I feel like adaptive swarm while not the most exciting I get the most consistent value out of. Its basically a extra rejuv / moonfire
Fleshcraft considering how bursty the meta is makes sense to me so I don't die to a rogue opener.
Fleshcraft is also a get out of jail free card in M+ in case you mess up mechanics.
Any second ooinions are welcome 🙂 I don't care what peoples experience is as long as you can justify your choice.
keen vault
it is not just an extra rejuv
It increases the healing throughput of all your hots
by 20%
random light
true, forgot to mention that
keen vault
I think if you play with a spriest in 3s it is a more well rounded choice than Kyrian for balance rot comps
necrolord
but until gear/conduits catches up, I think there will just be a bunch of wtflol games where people are dying in a global
random light
so you think necrolords is the best choice for rdruid atm?
and yeah I can already feel a massive difference between having 3% vers to now, 13% vers
heavy cairn
Praying for swiftmend world boss to be up first week
@vestal citrus how do I get a r1 title this season on my druid pls educate me r1 glyph 🙏
random light
@heavy cairn whats the highest rating you got in bfa or recent history?
craggy geyser
@heavy cairn you just gota get more rating than every other druid its easy
turbid belfry
holy shit convoke feral melts people
naive hatch
Going bear form during opponents opener feels so juice
rigid linden
Does anybody know where i can get COnflux of elements conduit blue version or higher?
true pendant
Callings and m0 drops epic conduits
dense edge
any important profressions for a resto druid
candid moth
for pvp ...?
dense edge
yes do any professions matter for pvp?
open verge
no
forest kite
Yo, the sick druid Lego from the world boss is not available yet, correct?
Or is that world boss spawning already?
open verge
no
lime kelp
Hi all. I'm very new to feral pvp. I'm mostly pve and I'm thinking of crafting the Apex legendary. Do Rips usually have high enough uptime in Arena/BGs that I can expect to proc the legendary often? Or are people getting bursted down too fast?
open verge
no, it will not be very good
lime kelp
Ah, bummer. Thanks Ath!
sterile relic
https://gyazo.com/32c3397d22f6880e7dadb3b1784c7903 its so fun man...
sage ridge
Is crit modifier still 175% like it was in beta for PvP? If this is the case I'm a bit less concerned about having to pickup Boat lego for pve
very high chance of starsurge crits on incarn etc seems not a ton worse than timeworn
naive hatch
How do yall like to open in arena as balance? Cyclone a target first? Pop CA +Convoke from stealth?
sage ridge
I'm not sure about convoke and it depends if you're talking 2s or 3s, but opening cyclone usually isnt bad if you don't put urself in a poor position
open verge
yeah its still 175
echo roost
Whats a good feral pvp resource im looking for macros and basic shit
waxen glen
hey is the night fae covenant good for heal and feral in arena or is nekrolords much better?
open verge
necro is pretty meh for feral imho
dense edge
is there any list of abilities that really dont get used for pvp
lime light
sooth
livid wasp
still
livid wasp
never seen anyone use it
lapis wolf
Hey y'all. What is the best leggo for balance BGs? I'm thinking circle of life and death for the phat spread damage
forest kite
sooth can b used to dispell hunter pets enrage instantly can’t it
fleet panther
what's the pvp covenant for feral? they seem to be doing pretty well in bgs right now
fleet panther
NF looks cool when it goes off
lime light
@forest kite no
noble holly
Is Verdant Infusion still BiS for rdruid if you're not necro/are night fae?
sage ridge
@lapis wolf circle will be good for bg's but might end up being a hindrance in some capacity since it reduces duration as well
just something to consider if you can't get full uptimes
more time dotting and less time ccing/peeling/positioning w.e
lapis wolf
Ya good point. Is there another you would recommend?
sage ridge
Timeworn
If you're doing lots of pve/mythic raiding, go BOAT for sure
boat will still be useful in pvp
atomic drift
What leggo do u plan on crafting for feral PvP ? 
deft apex
Best Covenant for Resto PvP is Necro? Is NF bad?
shy blaze
Gear-wise, how much should we prioritize gear with vers on it for the 40% effect bonus over ilvl?
limpid kraken
for feral, Highly @shy blaze . Benefit from both added dmg and added self healing.
noble holly
@deft apex I think necro is best cov for rdruid PvP but night fae isn’t particularly bad. Just requires good set up. Also it’s BiS in other forms of content.
limpid kraken
@deft apex neco considered best for resto pvp due to defensives being very much needed in pvp right now. ESP once we fill out the covenent trees, necro has a lot of strong defensives stuff.
that being said NF is very strong in all forms of druid content and def can be made work for pvp as well
requires setup in pvp. But like for example, just healing some BGs i found convoke to be a really really strong heal everybody oshit button
shy blaze
I’ve seen some resto’s use it quite effectively in cat form
limpid kraken
yup or even balance + convoke actually slaps quite a bit if you're allowed to get away with it
neat ibex
anyone thinking of going HOTW legendary + NF for 2s? I'm reeeeeeeally considering it
for resto, i should add
forest kite
with the versa thingy if you got 2 pvp trinket do we get full versa as feral ?
obtuse ice
tell me me night fae is gopod
noble holly
night fae is good
dense edge
does arena always make it so target party 1 and 2 always work for teamates and not yourself? like I cant be party 1
open verge
yeah
dense edge
thanks I didnt realize that makes stuff a lot easier
noble holly
@neat ibex does that stack with HotW as a talent?
dense edge
is there a way to order frames so party 1 is always in the same place?
open verge
there was some script
rain girder
What slot are people using for legendary item for resto PvP?
I'm thinking about crafting Oath, wondering if it matters if I make shoulders or wrist?
placid mirage
Is the learning curve for feral pvp high?
noble holly
@rain girder what cov are you?
limpid kraken
@placid mirage kinda weird to answer considering theres a lot to unpack about the learning curve for wow pvp in general being pretty high when it comes to Arena. I dont think kitty dps rotation is particularly hard, but in the context of arena they do have a niche playstyle where the best druids will recognize when its time to play offense and when its time to play defense/runaway
i would say its easier than a rogue, harder than a DH
prob about the same as monk
placid mirage
Yeah I was just reading the guides and specifically most of them say you have to predict stuns by bear shifting to not die, I probably just need a lot of practice to be able to reliably predict most stuns in the first place
rain girder
@noble holly Night Fae
placid mirage
I haven't 2v2d a lot but the times I did I played classes with more reactive defenses I guess
limpid kraken
@placid mirage currently, TTK is very short meaning that you can be bursted down at any time. So yeh shifting into bear to predict a stun is a very strong play.
noble holly
@rain girder Regarding legendary, I'm still wondering myself. It seems like the consensus is Verdant Infusion, at least if you're necro. I'm not sure how going night fae since necro's class ability is a HoT and I think Verdant re-ups the ability.
limpid kraken
survivability + mobility go hand in hand and have a pretty high skillcap regarding druids in genearl
noble holly
I'm night fae as well so I'm curious how that impacts things.
placid mirage
Ic, I have never played druid before this xpac and I'm pveing as boom but wanted to play 2s more than 3s
limpid kraken
like making optimal use of wild charge is easy to understand, but can have a high skill cap to usage. Same with a skill like vortex. DPS can be as simple as pressing convoke right now, the best druids will set themselves apart with expect usage of utility
placid mirage
Yeah the utility from shapeshifting and roots/clone/heals seems like a lot
limpid kraken
if you're reletivly new to druid, its def a lot to get your head around
but
imo its very rewarding and a big part of why i like the class in pvp so much
placid mirage
Big brain potential
limpid kraken
tossing instant regrowth over to your 2s partner and followup with a quick swiftmend in a pinch at the right time to win you the game
when you catch a warrior trying to jump out of vortex, just lauph in his face
silent aspen
Anyone any suggestions on actually surviving? Because right now I'm pretty much getting one shot even with Survival instincts up
limpid kraken
NF blink when getting targted by multiple people or a single rogue xD
its hard out there ngl
silent aspen
I'm wondering if it's because I'm only ilvl 160
limpid kraken
nah im at 180 and still getting bursted. 1/2 pvp gear
silent aspen
Christ
limpid kraken
eh i will say that barkskin + instincts and im able to get in there for a little bit in BGs, but you absoultly have to watch yourself and if they are coordinated at all and turn on you, anybody can get easily globaled right now by 4 people pressing 1 GCD
silent aspen
Aye that seems just about right.
And here was I wondering if I was doing something wrong
silent aspen
@limpid kraken what talents/PvP talents you using pal?
limpid kraken
@silent aspen https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/feral/m9Bc/3/5DZ/WxM, last pvp talent situational. tho thorns prob best
im not a fan of incarn. Guardian affanity can be good in 3s when you need that specific CC
silent aspen
Booms bang
stuck talon
feral: "rake stun > zerk > convoke" my god its glorious 😄
silent aspen
Honestly it's really rather weak in PvP versus anyone with a brain.
stuck talon
doesnt matter, still fun lol
tardy hare
sure and im gonna use it to cheese my way to glad
tardy hare
xd
good onme
one
its a free win button
i press convoke they press trinket
if they dont press trinket
they die
if they do press trinket
i now have trinket for the cost of 1 convoke
i can now just press my cooldowns and do damage : )
cerulean token
^thats how Ive been viewing it. Plus there goes their interupt so you can get a free cyclone in on something if need be.
tardy hare
besides how the fuck are classes like DK/warrior gonna be able to teleport behind a pillar to save their healer who got stunned
cerulean token
I was watching Snupy and he was good at getting his convokes off
open verge
yeah its gonna get nerfed
cerulean token
yeah feral isnt a big problem imo rogues are
tardy hare
every class is a problem
queen drift
well rogues are
disc priests seem so strong aswell
but then again its early in the xpac, nerfs will happen
and all druid specs are pretty good too
tardy hare
All i know is that im gonna clap hella noobs with convoke until the day they remove it
craggy geyser
do resto druids prefer the proc or on use trinket?
stone nest
how much damage is expected from a resto druid in pvp
obtuse ice
42
stray sigil
51
craggy geyser
these are rookie numbers you should be getting atleast 72
stray sigil
chrome panther
what final talent are you cats enjoying in pvp?
open verge
ff
chrome panther
blood talons feels awful
open verge
blood talons is for pve
chrome panther
in pve its ahead by like 25dps over clarity
maiden viper
any macro gods online? I wanna condense my macros a bit and I have arena123 cyclone and roots macros. whenever I'm not in an arena, I want those macros to just clone my targets. is it possible?
echo roost
Ok bros. Give it to me straight. What legendary for someone who swaps between resto and feral in arena
maiden viper
prob circle of life and death
echo roost
ok ty
warm spoke
Timeworn Dreambinder will be good for pvp boomies right? Any druids want to make a group to spam Mists of Tirrna Scithe to grind it out?
compact spruce
open verge
oh shiet
skirmishes are freaking weird
warrior spinning in bladestorm my full convoke
what do people expect
acoustic nebula
Travel form goes normal if guardian with pvp talent though right
junior plover
So
Feral with convoke + mage/rogue
am I dumb or is it broken
just oneshot spec
obtuse ice
Yes very bursty rn
junior plover
Didn't try it yet but sounds insane
open verge
you know whats insane? sub
open verge
sub in general
lilac belfry
im guessing hes a big fan of shadow the hedgehog
open verge
Warrior in a bg, are you mad?! :)
Thought only subs MMS and sps queued
Although I've seen some wars with double pocket healers doing well
small storm
tbh destroying everything as feral in bgs
novel sky
hunters are so silly
prisma totem
Also same. In bgs and skirmishes. Convoke just feels so good
kindred monolith
junior plover
I lost 11 in a row as horde
novel sky
chad tbh
solid bay
Hey i wanted to start some pvp has drood can someone recommend some streamer or some guide maybe plz ?
cold knot
has anyone seem this? it appears randomly when I open the pvp window
if I close and open again its gone
junior plover
Hmmm
forest kite
what are your thoughts on balance druid with nightfae and vers crit stack gear in arena?
deft apex
I am so conflicted, like I want to do a lot of PvP this time around so Necro would be great for resto, it's also really good for Guardian in PvE, but NF is great for Resto in PvE, decent for Guardian
don't know what to do
calm patrol
Ok. am i high, or did they hotfix mass entanglement convoke
I 100% yesterday was entagle and convoking, and now if i do it, I literally cast 16 heals
lusty barn
does boomy convoke 1 shot as well as feral convoke?
calm patrol
boomy convoke CAN murder 3 people at once if you are incarn, and get luck (get a full moon in there)
but absoultly it melts single target
i am in combat cause im getting opened on lol
maybe im not casting something offensive first
ya
ok thats prolly it, but boy does it feel rank 1 to cast 16 heals infront of a rooted rogue lmao
dark solstice
Same shit happens if you root a dummy and convoke. Pretty sure it avoids ccd targets if youve not cast anyrging offensive
hollow atlas
just wanted to share this here for the memes. I am a 178 I lvl MW monk with double pvp trinkets stacking vers. I got 1 shot by a MM hunter in opener, double tap aimed shot into instant arcane shot dead.
solemn burrow
Welcome to current pvp meta lol
rich crag
So here we go feral main gotta decide kyrian or NF.. tough choices one is boring but great can remove dots and heal the other is well has that "wup da baddie" ability 🙂
tall rapids
yo so what is best for upgrading pvp gear
is there like a priority? all my gear is pvp gear around 155
should i proritize upgrading weapon?
autumn flame
Anyone else have a super hard time killing WW monks as feral? seems like they counter me pretty hard: pets, so my convoke doesnt kill them, more defensives than I have, more offensives than i have, multiple stuns to deal with convoke, mobility to match mine so i cant kite
Not sure how to outplay them, i lose while kiting or while going toe to toe
rich crag
Gotta try to get their karma gone, use SM to get the pets off you if you are NE get ready to shift into bear, to get out of the roots, mass entangle
Will there be a mythic chest this week ? I guess not
dense edge
how often does NS entangling roots get used over NS regrowth? for resto? should I basically be ns regrowth on cd?
worth making an NS regrowth macro?
junior plover
I played against 2 MM hunters today
both me and my ele shammy got deleted before we even pressed a button
rich crag
welp picked NF cuz i like the zone lol
slow basin
I casted 2 convoke this game and got this much damage out 
tiny oar
Beat a warrior on dmg 
craggy geyser
For pvp do resto druid run the proc or on use trinket?
tiny oar
Badge is a 1 min cd now so I'll prolly go with that for most games
Still not entirely convinced that the pvp trinket bonus is better than some of the castle raid trinks, we'll just have to see how it plays out
junior plover
40% is a looot
permanent 8% more damage 4% less damage taken
or so
altho to be fair theres a trinket with on use 12k damage
tiny oar
It's just dmg and healing modified, not defensive benefit of vers
stable plover
What is the current most versatile covenant for Feral pve/pvp?
small storm
i like and use nf
but i prioritize mythic raiding over other stuff, but heavily m+ and pvp as well
junior plover
I cant imagine using anything but NF for both pvp and pve
NF feral is probably the most broken feral has ever been in pvp
both arenas and bgs
and it sims best in pve while also providing great burst windows
small storm
its not that reliable but its pretty good
stray sigil
@small storm what is best chest enchant in pve
theres one with like 20 agi and some dmg or some shit
rich crag
convoke sure helps on those torghast bosses lol
livid wasp
Heavy nerfs 🙏
small storm
im using eternal skirmish for pve so not changing for pvp
tranquil pumice
NF for resto arena or?
tiny oar
Necrolord
tranquil pumice
ait ty
tiny oar
Adaptive swarm for better hots/ dots more consistent overall and fleshcraft cc immunity also dope
But u can make night fae work if u rly want it
tiny oar
As rdruid I try n keep up rake rip moonfire on kill target for 2s at least but yea my feral skirms have just been like 40% bite dmg lol
Night fae tho so just clowning on idiots that take 3 seconds to trinket wall after maim convoke
stray sigil
@small storm hm dmg is that shit
junior plover
Night fae tho so just clowning on idiots that take 3 seconds to trinket wall aft...
Exactly
but in higher ratings you can actually create openings and use a convoke feral to close out the game
altho sub rogue is def better for that right now
tiny oar
Yea I'd b amazed with blizz if the tuning pass didnt touch sub or mm is some way once ssn starts, they're just filthy atm
I main rdruid tho just learning feral for faster queue times / honor
tiny oar
Yea insert x spec basically lol
livid wasp
Or convoke
stray sigil
convoke giga overrated
so easy to shut down
try to shut down a warrior with that kyrian shit
gl in mcdonalds
convoke literally a gimmick
tiny oar
Everything is wild atm I kinda like it more than 15m dampeners vs immortal destros or guardian druids outhealing their healer tho
stray sigil
works nonetheless but still a gimmick
idk man warrior having better version of ursols
kinda fucking wild to me
livid wasp
Omg thats so annoying in bgs when trying to run
stray sigil
ya u cant do anything about it
u just take the cock
and die
feral is good but even in this state were like bottom melee in pvp i think
maybe surv worse
enh def not bad anymore
ig maybe dh is bad now not quite sure
they kinda gimmicky like us
livid wasp
I only wish I wont be forced to turn into a fairy 
stray sigil
ur not forced into playing nf
as a matter of fact ur prob better off playing kyrian lol
livid wasp
Will see
livid wasp
I really like the pot for survival
stray sigil
like our dmg is very good without convoke
dont need that shit at all
kyrian def better 1min cd lines up with badge and gives 350 mastery
15% dmg, 350 mast and 120 agi every minute
tiny oar
Pretty nutty
small storm
just skill press ur quantum device and get 600 mast
stray sigil
im so on the fence to go kyrian
small storm
who needs pvp trink when u kill on opener
stray sigil
but idk if it fuks my adventures and shit
livid wasp
600? kek
tiny oar
Isnt one of the quantum effects just you die instantly? Lol
small storm
nah lol
livid wasp
Isnt that like 40% mas
small storm
tiny oar
Oh someone said there was one like that, woulda be hilarious in arena
small storm
its like 580 stat
stray sigil
ya but u lose 40% vers of ur vers 
small storm
dude giga crit 5 bites in convoke no1 lives
stray sigil
someone calc this shit for me im bad at math
if i have 17% vers with double pvp trinket
how much vers does that give me ?
tiny oar
Cuz it's not vers stat technically I guess
Dumb tooltip tho ya
Ppl getting rly confused by it
tiny oar
Yea weird that they swapped the vers on badge and insignia to haste
Could've gotten even more vers
tiny oar
🤢
tiny oar
Yea tru I guess
stray sigil
70 haste is like 1%ish or some shit
need like what 10% haste for clone to be 1.5s ?
thats a lot of haste for a kitty atm
tiny oar
Yea idk about feral haste clone times I just wanted like 25ish? + haste for 1.3s clones as resto
Obvi that ain't happening for a cat but even 10% sounds a little scuffed
Maybe it happens atm just cuz pvp gear is decent to fill in gear but once m+ starts I'd imagine you can just farm a full vers mast set from dungos
Havent checked the pieces yet though so idk
stray sigil
looks like there wont be a chest and legs with mas vers
think boots too
from conq so i think those wil ldefault go crit vers
small storm
have u checked m+ gear for chest
dungeon loot, big stat - lil stat - slot
chests suck there too
stray sigil
ya like i said no mas vers chest and legs
some crit isnt the worst thing anyways
@small storm was there something about cats eye being bugged in sims or am i stupid ?
not sure what lego to get tomorrow
tiny oar
It was simming as infinite clearcast shreds right lol
stray sigil
i dont like the tf one when i played beta
so either i go casino with apex
or i go cats eye
circle prob dog shit in pvp so not even gonna bother
small storm
its not too far behind so if you’re interested in both pvp n pve u can do it
stray sigil
ya
small storm
idk man i just google
small storm
cant find anything wtf
u can look at simc data from a sim
im sleep lmk what u pick
tiny oar
Just curious why is ur profile pic a donkey @livid wasp
dry glen
Is the battleground quest that rewards 250 anima and 500 honour a weekly?
livid wasp
Stupid inside joke me and a friend have 😄
dry glen
Ty
livid wasp
I might go apex just cause its bis for pve
Plenty of time to get the pvp one later on in season
And maybe apex is op in pvp hopefully
livid wasp
Yeah but I dont see 3 rips continuously being up realistic with the slow energy we have atm
Unless we use pw or something
Insane burst lining that proc with 5 combo bite and ff bite
dry glen
I've been hit by 3 bites within a rake stun for 4k 6k and 8k so you can get a lot of damage out
inner dawn
What legendary do you guys think is going to be the best for pvp ?
ruby ingot
symmetry probably
inner dawn
For feral ?
short totem
Which covenant is good for feral druid?
forest kite
nf
livid wasp
Nf or kyrian
compact tide
is anyone else finding it hard to survive in arena as a balance druid?
winged charm
feral druid stat priority pvp?
keen ember
Versa > mastery until dr > crit prob
rich crag
hilarious.. some guy in the maw clucks like a chicken trying ot get me out of stealth rake stun bash convoke dead.... then he tries to add me as a friend in battle net wonder how they can find out your battle tag ?
jaunty owl
you can
livid wasp
People must think kyrian ferals are total noobs cause they arent oneshotting like night fae ferals
mortal sparrow
how's balance looking for arena?
Tru
Rogues are just tearing me apart, not sure what I can do but try and get stunned in bear
Will do, gotta farm the pvp set more
Ty
sweet wind
forest kite
Is it only from gear or buffs too
open verge
for such static data
rich crag
convoke a lot easier to avoid then the 2 shot aimed shot kills lol
safe heart
really wanna play feral but resto so much better for comp with all my buddies lol
will have to see whos really down !
open verge
I have the same issue. I might have to pug druid
safe heart
id rather pug as feral for sure
winter spindle
Rogues are just tearing me apart, not sure what I can do but try and get stunned...
Be in bear form before they open, when they open wait out stun, incap roar after the runs out > into clone. If they trinket you can can war stomp and re clone or root
By this time your healer should be able to top you or your partner dps can help you peel
Faerie swarm is also very good vs rogues and mm hunters
candid moth
what do you guys think about getting the HotW legendary first? Will we lack the burst dmg of boat? The surviveability would be insane
dusty comet
Stupid question but what’s the optimal opener for feral without setup for wpvp/bgs
candid moth
Balance Druid. Since we are either sitting in bear form or having a go with rootbeam
cunning sedge
anyone would generously share his/her macro either feral or balance 🙂 ? I realized how handy it could be to get some instant boomy stance / back jump macro and so on
brave solar
Which resto legendary are you guys going for for 2s ?
tiny oar
Verdant infusion for healing n prolly circle for dam if meta allows for it
brave solar
cool thanks a lot 👌
dry glen
Anyone able to quickly tell me a resto BG setup?
candid moth
incarn isnt bad in that bursty meta and massroots with deep-roots can fuck up a whole zerg for the enemy team
other than that pick what you like and what has always worked
rich crag
oath of the elder druid any good for feral ?
dusty comet
Not great
craggy geyser
does anyone have a macro that will put me in cat form wild charge my focus target and use mighty bash
im bad at writing macros
small storm
press cat form bind press wc press bash
u could macro ur wc to focus target but that’s it really
open verge
I dont think having a macro for something you have to press a couple of times is any good, especially this case
craggy geyser
yea i was just wondering if it was possible but if its not thats fine
small storm
u could make a terrible macro tied to tf focus wc
lime light
only with cast sequence
that gonna be horrible
just bind cat form
and wild charge bash on focus
will be easy
tender torrent
How's feral in pvp? I went venthyr for tanking am I cucked in pvp?
open verge
venthyr in pvp is like not having a covenant
inland gulch
I've got macro for charge and rake
open verge
and feral is solid
inland gulch
i use it once for rake if close or charge if away and twice to charge and rake 🙂
I'v got the same for charge and bash 🙂
rich crag
feral is great but still, the game is kinda bursty now so its a bit "unfun" hopefully it gets a bit less so easy to die lol
open verge
that doesnt seem good does it
inland gulch
it put me to form if I am not in it too
open verge
well feral bursts too
its not like it just takes it
with a good comp you can make use of your burst
I think SP/feral might be a really strong duo early on
rich crag
yeah just talking being around 150 ilevel in a BG die to two aimed shots lol
hasty dome
not much different at 175 with 17% vers
lime light
lmao
tiny oar
dont u mean pop SI and bark and emblem and die thru mdr
cursive bough
what leggo is everyone going to use for balance? I was leaning towards dreambinders for juicy starsurges
languid knot
can i have the gladiator medalion and sigil of adaption both equiped?
cursive bough
no
tiny oar
from pins
- Cycle of Life and Death (Dots spread pressure)
- Timeworn Dreambinder (Burst setup, starsurge spam)
@cursive bough
cursive bough
great, thanks
languid knot
what 2 trinkets should i have for feral pvp?
tiny oar
medallion and badge atm
tiny oar
ya rofl, could see ppl swapping into castle trinkets when they up
open verge
yes ofc
hoary valley
Symmetry is def BIS PvP change my mind
soft fjord
fact
meta is too bursty for it not to be
if the kill times were longer across the board maybe curio has okay
play
open verge
there will be enough time to craft another leg before anything gets changed
digital kelp
does anyone have a macro that will put me in cat form wild charge my focus targe...
/cast !cat form
/cast [@focus] wild charge
/cast [@focus] mighty bash
@craggy geyser
you can mash this without leaving cat form because of the !
warm hatch
Hey Guys can you please let me know which are the top 2 covenants for Resto druid for PvP and why, thank you in advance!
digital kelp
ughhhhh that's so lame. you just saved me trouble when I start writing macros for arena
spiral linden
vers/haster or vers/mastery for resto in arenas?
lime kelp
Is Symmetry still BiS if it's world pvp and BGs? A lot of the guides I've seen are arena focused, so I am not sure.
sage ridge
any balance boys crafting timeworn dreambinder this week
open verge
Imho yes, I guess you could argue for cat-eye? But I'd still take bigger burst with symmetry
lime kelp
Thanks Ath!
Is the reasoning behind Symmetry that you will be able to chain 5cp bites very quickly?
open verge
or 5-4-4-5 bites
livid wasp
sucks that its not so good for pve :/
open verge
from what ive seen its marginal difference, isnt it
depends for which content as well
but I dont care about pve at all so its an easy choice for me
livid wasp
apex bis for pve but it sounds stupid for pvp, stuff dies so quick rip doesnt get to tick much
open verge
you dont even want to rip somtimes
livid wasp
exactly
sometimes I can oneshot with bite ff bite
maybe in 2s
with rip up nuking healer
could be good
sterile relic
what would be the best feral pvp leggo?
livid wasp
symmetry
yeah idk against 1 mythic t arget seems to be a 120 dps difference to apex
but it rises as theres more targets
the difference
but gonna go for raid dps so guess its whatever
theyre mostly 1-target
cant wait till tomorrow when I can just craft it and stop thinking bout this rofl
sterile relic
yeah i feel like apex wouldnt even be that bad for pvp even though things are dying super fast.
and its better for raid technically people are saying
such a hard choice right now...
livid wasp
yep
open verge
just think of a burst scenario
livid wasp
but then again
livid wasp
its most important to go bis pve at start, you can go bis pvp gear later on since push will happen later in season
if you do both content that is
hard estuary
Eye of Fearful Symmetry?
open verge
and you still get 4 free cp after TF each 30s
open verge
because it procs tf? Im not sure if it does if you already have tf on
sterile relic
it doesnt but you can get a tf from it
which i would assume gives you them active then you can use your second tf
so it would be just nuts burst
open verge
yeah but would you roll the dice and not pre tf before convoke
hoary valley
if you pre tf it adds an extra druid spell to rotatation
don't think it recast tf if you have 1 act=ive
open verge
yeah thats what I mean
but yeah it might be worth saving tf if it proc chance is high early on
or you dont have TF anyway, like you go zerk/tf>bites and just close out with empty convoke
livid wasp
its still kinda tough getting used to new berserk
after using the old one for so many years
forest kite
Do you guys think cat eye or apex will be more flexible in pvp and pve?
uneven creek
is the set bonus for the pvp trinkets worth it?
obtuse ice
cat eye
dense edge
anyone know how people get the small nameplates for friendly players ?
wraith lantern
feral stat prio for pvp ?
naive hatch
Best balance pvp lego?