show proof
#pvp
tardy hare
mad man
stray sigil
no show ur armory
obtuse ice
oshit
stray sigil
u can just take sc from revendrfeth zone in lvling noobn
obtuse ice
livid wasp
moment of silence for ferals who chose venthyr
stray sigil
it does feel good..
obtuse ice
THEN
stray sigil
im lvling in revendreth rn
obtuse ice
yeeees
stray sigil
tardy hare
obtuse ice
wdym ????? @lime light
stray sigil
...
obtuse ice
Soon
stray sigil
@obtuse ice is trolling me
obtuse ice
Mother fucker
stray sigil
pls help
tardy hare
stray sigil
u went kyrian...
lime light
ofc, they will nerf night fae
lime light
stray sigil
me and machtig chad fae feral
stray sigil
i will fight for the queen
tardy hare
convoke feels good
lime light
agree
lime light
holy shit
the wq
are so long
like who made this
give me slain quests
😢
aids kenker bugged plant quests
open verge
im gonna cap honor before 60 eh
foggy arrow
is class and signature ability generic buttons for macro purposes?
stray sigil
not sure i understand ur question
fleet panther
is there a guide for resto pvp SL?
foggy arrow
general macro to all chars regardless of cov chosen
devout frost
Its a skill in your skillbook and acts just like any Skill would in a macro @foggy arrow
devout frost
Yes? ..
foggy arrow
so I would need to make specific macros based on covenants for each character.
devout frost
Yes
foggy arrow
Instead of "covenant class ability" "covenant signature ability"
devout frost
Yes
open verge
you can use the generic one, someone posted that
foggy arrow
also, in case of kirian, the covenant class ability is actually 2 different abilities.
Thank you Ath.
devout frost
Think i misunderstood what you mean when you say generic mb
tardy hare
Think he means the name like how mighty bash, mass entangle etc are "nature's control" as name u can use for all 3
I macros
obtuse ice
open verge
yeah it was funny the first time
but he literally repeats that every time in the shadow 😄
hushed bluff
is rake stun not working for some of you in pvp?
obtuse ice
Or Dr's
stone nest
I’ll ask this again since I didn’t get a response. Why is the only thing in the pins a balance guide? Wouldn’t having the covenant for each spec for pvp cut down on a lot of repeated questions?
open verge
I did respond
stone nest
Were you the one that said ask a mod?
open verge
not very helpful, I know, but nobody else can pin stuff
and I dont believe we have the necessary talent here to produce a guide
or willing to
stone nest
Im use to mods chiming in fairly quickly in the other discs. I know this week may be different circumstances.
open verge
I dont believe mods care about this channel tbh
surreal heron
Bold to assume
open verge
I've been here for a while
obtuse ice
I really don't understand
People coming to complain about guide not being made when you don't even participate in doing them
Since it's no ones duty to make those guide, shouldn't you just seek if you find any, and if you don't find any then just search somewhere else ? Like if you don't find something on internet, are you going to send a mail to Google to tell them they suck not giving you the answer you are looking for ?
open verge
I guess people are surprised coming from others class' discords. Usually there's at least one person willing to do the work.
lethal berry
whats the best covenant for resto druid pvp
open verge
I understand that PvP community for ferals and boomies is slim, but I was surprised to see no resto champion
Maybe they moved to other classes because of bfa :d
Also God damn, a single totem or a pet near your convoke reduces your chances of success drastically
It should really prioritize players
tiny oar
Think it's just like very little people actually gives a shit about pvp so the only pvp regular rank we got is glyph pretty much. And the ones that do care and are r1 players aren't inclined to join class discord and answer the same 3 questions 10x a day.
We have a good feral and boomie presence here but resto players kinda nonexistent.
@lethal berry for 3s healing necrolord is bis but you should be able to get glad/ elite rank with any.
open verge
Seems about right
keen vault
I believe convoke is probably way harder to pull off in 3s as resto
and more targets + pets means it is watered down
mald'raxxus is way more consistent in 3s
unkempt lintel
I'm torn between Necro and Fae, i don't care at all about mogs and mounts. I'm planning on doing both 2s and PvE content. Any recs?
safe heart
I wanna pump yo
obtuse ice
Tonymovie Cassidy Syfoxy Mocfernando Ferrari feral
spiral linden
which night fae soulbind path is the best(resto) for pvp?
visual cove
is anyone else having issues with the weekly random bg not progressing?
timid cedar
which is the best covenent for resto druid in pvp?
dim stump
is there a best covenent for feral in pvp? Or is it more style choice between necro night fae and the blue people
supple pebble
night fae is more for wpvp and bgs i assume
and kyrian for arenas right?
pelagos 2 defensive conduits and 1 min dmg% cd seems way too good to pass
which is a shame, nf seems way more fun 
surreal heron
convoke getting interrupted 
dim stump
yeh thats kind of what I was suspecting, thanks guys!
daring canyon
Hey guys - just hit 60. Can you please help me pick the right Covenant for my Boomie? I dont do Raids or Arena and solely do RBGs and M+
stone silo
so night fae for pvp?
fair mason
Arenas it seems necro is best since NF can be interrupted; per skilled cap youtube video
stone silo
too late already picked night fae
supple cave
For the feral friends. Do you go with soul of the forest or incarnation?
stray sigil
is there any penalty for changing covenants the first time ?
stone silo
no penalty
supple cave
not the first time, but if you go back you have to gain rep
stray sigil
do i lose renown the first time around or na
stone silo
no
dreamy shadow
yo whats the max u can upgrade the pvp gear rn does any1 know
heady vessel
m0 lvl i think
dreamy shadow
Ok
keen vault
There is a full breakdown of covenants
for all specs in pvp
but primarily resto focused
stray forge
is anybody else having a really hard time healing bg's?
feel like everybody dies in like 2 sec
thick minnow
yeap
just got 3 GCD by a warrior. 6k spear crit. 6k mortal strike crit. 11k execute crit
thick minnow
if one person is focused by 2 people with cooldowns up, they die unless they have a +50% damage reduction
stray forge
yeah that's what it seems like, maybe it'll be better once people get more health
going to get pretty crazy when people fill out their conduits and get legendaries
thick minnow
maybe. right now burst damage is through the roof with all the flat damage increase skills
makes resto healing useless
stray forge
yeah I feel extremely weak right now, we're pretty reliant on having haste too though
at least 20%
stray forge
ohh okay, makes sense now xD
lime light
175%
keen sphinx
you guys running feral frenzy or talons?
lime light
bt
keen sphinx
hm
topaz tendon
Best covenant for feral and balance?
topaz tendon
for feral kyrian
Thanks!
obtuse ice
sturdy trellis
anyone have strong feelings about resto druid covenants across all content? I am leaning towards necro or night fae, primarily would be in 2v2 arenas with an arms warrior.
also, can a convoke cast in cat form be interrupted?
stray sigil
can be interrupted in every form
sturdy trellis
that is sad news
rancid pebble
is renown tied to each covenant right?
obtuse ice
Kinda would make no sense if it wasn't imo
lime light
he is a fury
fathom marten
Bark skin + Convoke = profit??
open verge
what does barkskin have to do with convoke
open verge
yeah I thought so, but why
lime light
lime light
lime light
wdym tooltip
its super clear in this case
i know some of them are super dogshit
but this one is fine
open verge
So are we in the open beta and should expect weekly changes now?
Or do you think they'll chill
lime light
holy shit
i was thinking the pre patch is fiesta
and now
we have even bigger fiesta
ret ww are a range classes apparently
that never dies
sub can kill u with auto attacks
oblique spruce
Noob question, sorry, Night Fae anywhere near necrolord for R Druid PVP?
lime light
like iam dying thro wall and skin overall
open verge
sounds like feral
lime light
but honestly idk whats the problem
when i look at details
everything looks normal
but the dmg is insane smh
livid wasp
ive been malding super hard in pvp recently, good im not the only one
hardy apex
vague temple
patent dove
cerulean token
I can't decide a covenant I'll just stay in this room forever deciding
for feral. I was gopnna go necro, then night fae, now out of left field Kyrian seems OP
cerulean token
Honestly it seems like necrolords would be so OP for feral, why arent they the way to go? Are bleeds not the focus anymore?
jaunty heart
is there any viability to fae in pvp at all? its just the only one i have fun with (resto)
rich hill
I think fae is good for catweaving
at least that is what I tell myself to feel better for choosing fae
😛
pliant trout
Wow rake is stronger than a 5-point Rip I didnt know that wtf
No it isn't
vale crystal
@cerulean token go Nf for pvp feral before the nerf
cerulean token
What does nightfae do to help that
There will be a nerf?
The ability is INSANE testing it right now
It does ridiculous amounts of damage
vale crystal
Feel like there has to be, it’s a one shot button if you can set it up
cerulean token
Wow so Fae really is the best? Necrolord seems way better for arena and consistency convoke gonna get interrupted like 58 times out of 10 above 1800
vale crystal
Yeah you’d have to set it up for sure
Could see necro in 3s but don’t take my word for it
cerulean token
Ok fuck it I'm gonna go Night Fae. I like the area muchh more anyways
This is so exciting
ty for advice
vale crystal
Np, it’s super fuckin fun rn and can always change
cerulean token
Yeah thefun factor while I gear up in BGs and WPVP sounds sweet right now anyways
cerulean token
Exactly ^
cerulean token
TBH trying the ability on the dummy next to the nightfae people made me go 👀
looks like a blast
echo canopy
They said they wont nerf covenants because its long-term choice and if they do, they make sure to not be punished for choosing different
for changing it
open verge
yeah theyd probably do some pardon
cerulean token
I like the vampire zone the most tbh, I love all of the stuff they did a great job designing them. Ironically the one I like the least (necro) is really good for my spec lolol
and good to know magiC
Also to revisit: "hmmm my rake is ticking for 270 and rip without talons is 257" Whats that about how is it that bad
jaunty heart
where the heck is the command table at the Fae HQ?
open verge
have you unlocked it? a quest leads you to it
open verge
so you forgot where it was 😄
open verge
how do you guys manage energy starvation post opener, just wait til next TF?
lime light
ruski opener
rake kyrian FF
TF
bite
no rip who gives a fok
wasting cp
who gives a fok
open verge
yeah tbh it kind of is
until you get the bite % dmg from bleeds
even then..
best opener is rake>convoke>get silenced>die
storm locust
man i'm in such a rough spot on deciding which covenant to go for
storm locust
we all know night fae is gonna get nerfed so
open verge
waiting for the energy to come up from 0 to 50 is just so weird
storm locust
cool thing about necro is that you can have it active on everyone in the arena
25s cd + bounces
forest kite
I very much dislike Arden, the other zones are great so 1 less covenant to chose from. Good.
snow folio
I think people mentioned it can be dispelled though? So not sure how often that will happen depending on the comp you are facing.
It would be nice if adaptive had something like unstable affliction for if it is dispelled.
cerulean token
Is haste supposed to be good for us now in feral? What's feral stat priority has anything changed?
carmine berry
Kinda interested in trying necro tbh
I can see it potentially being good for certain 3s comps?
bleedboiz
Though are feral bleeds in and of themselves particularly damaging?
tiny oar
me and the boys 🙂
twin bear
I think people mentioned it can be dispelled though? So not sure how often that ...
it can be and can be purged but it has 3 charges, you'd have to rip it 3 times. It goes enemy-friend-enemy and pretty much 100% up time (backwards if self cast/ ally cast). on target death/dispel it just moves to next target -i might be wrong here but that's what I've seen from a day with it
twin bear
Though are feral bleeds in and of themselves particularly damaging?
no, but there's a few legendaries you can combo with - if you can get a full 3 man bleed going with everything popped you'll have incredible cleave in 3s
but who knows! it's all likely to be tweaked and changed and I'm a lowbie so don't take my word for it! play whatever seems to work for you seems the best meta atm :)
open verge
Bleeds barely made a difference in beta because of the high burst everyone has access to. But with rated who knows
carmine berry
cheers
snow folio
Good to know, @twin bear
I would rather necrolord because I love dots/bleeds. NF doesn’t feel that interactive to me. Sure it is pretty cool but not something that seems as fun to me.
willow anvil
Any ferals able to let me know what is the stat priority for pvp in SL ? Is it still mastery>vers>agility > haste > crit ?
languid laurel
Any balance streamers/youtubers to watch play pvp? 🙂
maiden wraith
is the weapon as important for feral as for other melee specs?
dusty comet
Definitely
quartz pumice
Anyone resto pvp feel the healing is a bit underwhelming early on in BGs with the current burst available? Pretty typical early expa?
dusty comet
@willow anvil agi - vers - mast
tiny fossil
What trinkets do you use as resto? Relentless oder adaptation?
fresh barn
Is there a mercenary npc for BG in SL ?
echo canopy
Anyone resto pvp feel the healing is a bit underwhelming early on in BGs with th...
I feel like that with my mw monk
I have to blow every cd, sometimes I just die in 3 sec stun
from everyone, rogues, ferals, warriors
dusty comet
@fresh barn yeah it’s in the main hub, in one of the outer rings
true pendant
If u have 3 guys pop all cds on you you wont survive obv
Rogues are the most annoying due to the bullshit stuns
open verge
I mean it feels that anything without full defensive cd will fall
no wall will save you
visual cove
do you guys know if playing rated arena will grant honor, or only conquest?
and can rated gear be upgraded? if so, does it cost honor or conquest points?
livid wasp
are you guys running FF or bloodtalons
willow anvil
<@!482427552502251520> agi - vers - mast
Thanks
thick minnow
wait so crits are up to 175% and the vers amp from the pvp trinkets set bonus only applies to damage/healing
kekw
thick minnow
yea people pretty much die in a stun if the enemy player uses any form of damage amp
open verge
sounds perfect
thick minnow
Feel like I have zero agency right now. You need immunities to stop their CDs
thick minnow
warriors with warbreaker. Got 3 GCD by one yesterday
full hots, barkskin, doesnt matter
Mindgames is pretty insane though as well
fallow root
Supatease went Necrolord? I wonder why, since everyone was saying it’s garbage.
snow folio
Sounds like for 3s it is the best choice. At least what people are saying.
fallow root
Didn’t he say he was going resto?
snow folio
Yes for resto
fallow root
Ohh well I’m going balance and I’m looking at night fae
fallow root
Looking at the ladder, the best 3s guys are all rolling Kyrian or Necrolord. Seems to be about 50/50
Is the Kyrian ability that impactful though?
solid cipher
staff or 1h offhand for balance ?
uncut comet
I haven't PvP'd since Wrath and looking to maybe give it a whirl in SL, are there any websites that are just a good resource to read about Druid PvP in general? I'll be a complete noob at it nowadays, I've read a few of the pins 🙂
winter spindle
I’ve been testing out Convoke the spirits, for anyone that is night fae. If you have a target rooted with no dots on them and you cast convoke, it won’t hit that target even if you’re in range
quiet atlas
What covenant do you guess guess is best for a boomie/guardian for RBGs only? It’s my alt so I won’t dip into pve and 2s. Maybe a few 3s but not much
open verge
kyrian
icy rock
Every information outlet I’ve seen has said to go necro for resto PvP, specifically arenas. I primarily play 2’s - before I pull the trigger, is there anything else I should contemplate, i.e. night fae?
The soulbinds look better for necro too.
open verge
hows the burst if you go kitty convoke on a resto?
that might be kind of useful at times
tender bluff
For a necrolord resto druid, what is the stat priority right now after versatility? Can't decide between haste or mastery.
icy rock
I feel like necro is the safer pick as convoke gets CC’ed and is a 2 min CD. Not to mention the swiftmend lego + necro seems like a natural fit. If I’m missing anything that should warrant a closer look at NF for resto 2’s, please holler
open verge
I doubt it, and there's a use for fleshcraft immunity as well
Id just go necro
I went nf on feral but convoke seems scuffes sometimes
icy rock
Awesome, thanks for confirming
fallow root
They’re calling convoke nerf bait. It looks like all of the top balance guys are necro or Kyrian
valid cloud
How y’all feeling about resto druid this upcoming season? Cdew has us ranked 2nd to worst healer. Supa swapped mains last min to disc priest as well.
obtuse ice
@valid cloud what are your pvp aim my dude
soft fjord
is it me, or is it harder tha n ever to stay alive as feral right now
forest kite
So i want to be the "annoying tank" in wpvp, what to take? There will ofc be alot of 1vs1 and big group fights. But pretty lost on the Covenant choice..
soft fjord
Damage is going right through wall and barkskin
lusty barn
is crescent burn pvp talent not a competitive pick anymore?
fallow root
I’d be cool with getting 1800 this season and glad by the end of the expac.
obtuse ice
@valid cloud what are rn ( best rating?)
valid cloud
@obtuse ice 2k on mw season 1 and 2k on rdruid this past season
terse drift
@valid cloud what was the rank list from cdew?
valid cloud
@terse drift 1) Rsham 2) disc 3) hpally 4) holy priest 5) rdruid 6) mw
obtuse ice
You should rather focus on what you are doing rather than tier list rn!
Except if it's like trash trash tier
But rdruid is kinda skilled I believe so always a way to do smth
terse drift
i mean, for me personally I switched from hpal to rdruid for 3s... cuz hpal was considered terrible with melee cleaves, so what's doing well matters to me
fallow root
I honestly don’t think that covenant choice is really going to hold me back from rival.
neat pulsar
Under 2k nothing matters except skill
Once you get higher skill min max makes more of a difference
fallow root
I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on the basics, the only thing that trips me up is the eclipse system. From what I understand we mainly cast wrath’s in starfires if we can but starsurge/dots and landing clones take priority
stray peak
I've been trying to find it in here but what are resto druids going in terms of a covenant choice for PvP?
devout frost
necro or kyrian
stray peak
Okay I'll check those out, thanks
pine timber
hey guys, what's currently the best pvp covenant for feral?
there's not much information on wowhead regarding pvp 😦
forest kite
@devout frost is everyone pretty much thinkin convoke is just too risky vs what you get from Necro?
sleek fable
Stat prio for rdruid? Vers > haste > mastery?
forest kite
Cause I'm stuck between Necro and Night Fae, NF is only lookin nice cause I'm planning on doing a bunch of pve content as well
neat pulsar
Convoke seems super iffy in pvp to me, easily interrupted. Probably best healing cooldown for pve tho.
forest kite
Ya I'm real undecided cause I don't plan on doing any pve content difficult enough that it'll matter
To be honest
Where as friends wanna all push rating in pvp
winter spindle
Convoke is crazy, you just have to wait for them to use their stops
forest kite
And we're all dogshit so we should probably stick to BIS pvp stuff
That's also what I'm thinkin though, is if I just track kicks and use it at the right time it's fine
It's not like it's that ridiculous of a decision to make
neat pulsar
not going fae for pve is super meme
winter spindle
I’ve been playing Bala/spriest/rdruid and every game the focus is the spriest. You root beam the healer and convoke and both dps drop. Convoke also doesn’t hit rooted targets so it doesn’t break the cc
We went 11 for 12
forest kite
Oh wow it doesn't hit rooted? That's wild
winter spindle
Yes
neat pulsar
It’s pretty smart
forest kite
NF is probably the move then, for overall usability
open verge
no its not fucking smart
neat pulsar
Even healing target selection is pretty good on it
neat pulsar
Haha
forest kite
Gotta keep the team's fur babies alive br0ther
open verge
so vs several matchups its REALLY hard to use it
winter spindle
Vs unholy DK you can literally mass entangle all the pets and none of them get hit
You can also los non kill targets behind pillar
neat pulsar
Oof picking mass entangle talent, yikes
forest kite
I was talking resto
fallow root
Kyrian is the most boring but safest pick if you want to multispec and play different types of content. Seems to be the case for many classes
winter spindle
With dreambinder leggo (for balance) it will be insane
winter spindle
Kyrian is the most boring but safest pick if you want to multispec and play diff...
This is true
devout frost
@forest kite well NF is 2 minute cd channel that can be interrupted by a lot of shit
Honestly best argument for Necro is how extremely strong the cc immunity is
forest kite
Ya that's how I'm feelin. Only major argument for picking NF for me as Resto is that anything but NF is really kinda shit for pve
They're not BAD, NF is just much stronger in pve
open verge
the more it is in nerf zone
winter spindle
Night fae as Resto is not worth it at all
Except maybe in 2s if you’re playing cat aff
wide escarp
So as resto do you go with the stun talent instead of mass entanglement?
keen vault
Usually
winter spindle
So as resto do you go with the stun talent instead of mass entanglement?
Yes
wide escarp
Okokok fair
winter spindle
Soulshape I’ve found is pretty amazing utility also
Blinking out of smoke bomb/behind pillars is so helpful
wide escarp
I like it
open verge
I wish it retained your current form tho
wide escarp
I know we're hyper mobile already but the blink is sweeeeeet
winter spindle
The blink just takes it to the Nth degree
Also the % heal from the niya soulbind is so nice
winter spindle
I wish it retained your current form tho
It instantly puts you back into boomy form when you next attack
devout frost
@open verge it does no?
open verge
ferals shafted again
devout frost
Blizz stopped caring about Ferals the 2nd they made bear a seperate spec
winter spindle
It should keep you in feral form
Just bind shred to 1 on your out of form action bar
open verge
it requires cat form
winter spindle
🪦
I blink out then turn and 360 no scope starsurge 🔫
Pretty sure it’s a guaranteed caster meta this season
Only melee I’ve seen pumping so far is WW/Sub
open verge
~I do
dusky cypress
its literally busted as fuck
winter spindle
The only problem I see with feral convoke is if you’re not using it on a clothie you’re getting shafted by armour
open verge
damn I respect'd boomie for one bg
never again
how do you guys do this
its piss dmg
fallow root
I say the same for feral because I have no idea how to play melee in BGs anymore.
fallow root
SP are god mode
But yeah I just Starsurge as much as I can and abuse my eclipses when I’m not hard focused. I run solstice for more shooting stars twin moons/crescent burn and incarn
open verge
and outside incarn you have to hard cast for eclipses? damn
solemn timber
Im seeing the guides linked here and just see balance, what should be feral covenant
venthir?
open verge
kyrian
solemn timber
as feral too?
open verge
yeah its the strongest
fallow root
@open verge I think you pretty much hardcast to get into eclipse when you can, you’re mainly supposed to multi dot and hit clones and Starsurges. Someone who’s better can correct me if I’m wrong
open verge
Yeah I guess it's just the reality check I got from jumping from SP to boomkin
winter spindle
its piss dmg
I top dps every bg, probably just need to get used to it
open verge
oh definitely
so how do you do dmg if you put your dots up and then you have to cast freaking starfires to get into eclipse..
winter spindle
I always go into lunar eclipse first
Faster and frenzy procs give instant star fires
Spread dots etc
fallow root
Plus if you get kicked in arcane you can still hit clones
winter spindle
Yeah starfire is great bait cast
Make sure your putting thorns on melee targets
Hits like a truck
And most melee don’t even notice and just zug zug into it
open verge
I also gotta get the glyph to not be a chicken
winter spindle
Chicken /sit is the ultimate disrespect
open verge
but it feels like, and I do that, people like targetting boomies
even though its not such a great target
winter spindle
Or flap + /chicken on corpses
fallow root
I’m a zanda troll sooo
winter spindle
You have lots of tools to get away, always pre bear melee coming onto you because 9/10 times they will stun straight away
Incap roar + typhoon is nice
open verge
But it's nice that you can clone and heal in form
winter spindle
Yeah
open verge
Yeah and bear form is much better
winter spindle
I feel like regrowth actually does something now, with the new trait
open verge
But when I face another caster it just seems they can outpump me
fallow root
@winter spindle the only thing I can say about pre bearing is it doesn’t seem to do anything when fighting sub rogues
true pendant
Armor is useless nowadays
I have 32% DR in bear
Back in time in trash gear I had 50%+
In good gear 60%+
But thats blizz for u
forest kite
Do we have any feral pvp guide links? Also happy Thanksgiving
forest kite
We talked about it earlier
Scroll up a lil
But short story
Necro v good, Night Fae v good
Night fae straight up insanely better for pve
Necro not v good in pve
So it depends on your focus
willow anvil
Is NF convoke gonna be easily survivable once ppl get their gear up and increase vers in pvp. Or is it gonna scale up with the feral and take the same (percentage) of dmg from an enemy at an higher lvl ?
open verge
well it still pumped on the beta
scaling was to 216ilvl or somethign
I doubt much will change
willow anvil
On top of that there is also the conduit to increase convoke dmg
open verge
and you have 40% bonus to dmg from vers if youre wearing pvp trinkets
willow anvil
Hmm isn’t it just increase vers? So if someone has 10% vers then in pvp it’s 14%?
winter spindle
Vers will scale but so will damage
It will likely be the same
That’s if it’s not nerfed before then
chrome steppe
they nerfed pve trinekts already
open verge
some are still strong
lime light
ofc they nerfed them
but, even one trinket
was dealing more then a half of your HP bar
with full s1 gear
imagine a guy with a mythic trinket
2/3nd week into ixpac
open verge
how does %hp reduction work in practice, if someone has 90% health and you apply ferocious wound it wont affect his current health (aside bite damage)?
vernal glen
why, are hunters 2shotting
obtuse ice
Because
open verge
its their turn
vernal glen
I'm just gonna ride the pvp bench, doing almost all their health, they come out of stun, annd dead
open verge
damn lvling without story is so slow, or it seems so
open verge
not on an alt
you can choose to skip it, get covenant right away
sp is a big pumper but I still enjoy feral more
seems more rewarding
yeah?
shiet wish I had known this earlier
im almost 58 lul
yeah true
im solo
obtuse ice
We need broccoli emote now
quartz idol
Does anyone know if the cool down of the two get out of jail free trinkets are shared or not?
Trinket one auto trinkets for you every 1 min.
And trinket 2 is the on use break cc trinket.
obtuse ice
You mean are shared
hot berry
What cov for RBG healing?
mellow flicker
pvp seems so unbalanced right now, hunters and rouges oneshoting everything
wth was blizzard thinking
slender raptor
Yeah it’s pretty crazy atm
next crown
hello what legendaries is best for feral?
candid moth
its still beta, dont worry guys
little harness
do legendaries from dungeons drop outside mythic? just did one on mythic and it didn't drop 😦
forest kite
what covenent should i pick for feral pvp?
hoary valley
NF
plain heart
NF works for resto in pvp? saw a skillcapped video saying to go necrolord but NF seems also pretty good for pve and ferals pvp
warm hatch
Hello guys i wish to ask which covenants are good for pvp for resto and for feral
stray sigil
how tf do off stat work now
addon says its 6% vers
put it on
its like 1%
??
am i missing something
red charm
hey yall any tips on synod lol
forest kite
Soo comp stomp was supposed to be back in the rotation but its not in calendar for the next year... blizz lied?
terse drift
getting killed so fast as rdruid in arenas.
tiny oar
storm locust
necro feels really good ya
obtuse ice
vagrant grotto
Does anyone play Resto in duels/arenas? I'm currently running Guardian affinity but I don't think I do enough damage.
- What affinity do you run?
- Is it worth going Cat form to do damage?
- Should I just go Feral/Balance affinity?
- If so, how do I alleviate damage?
- Renewal or Wild Charge?
Hmm, I guess that's pretty straight forward. I shift to Bear right before a big hit in duels then cast Frenzied Regen. It's basically my panic combo and I wouldn't know what to do without it.
Thanks, btw.
I'm assuming I should cast Swiftness before that last Regrowth? Also, I completely forgot about Overgrowth. I've been spec'd for PVE cos of the expansion. Thanks for the help! I'll go practice some more.
I was totally ignored in the resto channel so thanks a lot! :))
tiny oar
Overgrowth mend should be enough get you pretty close to topped by itself if you have the mend conduit as well. Just use the soul on rejuv and save NS like glyph said ya.
Lol yea bit overkill healing wise
vagrant grotto
My friends are a warrior and a rogue. They slap me pretty hard especially with Condoom on Venthyr warriors.
So I panic a lot hahaha
echo canopy
Does anyone play Resto in duels/arenas? I'm currently running Guardian affinity ...
Affinity feral/guardian, depends on preference, both is good, feral is for more aggresive gameplay, guardian is defensive
I think in shadowlands you can setup people with stun and feral/balance affinity convoke to oneshot them which feels like really strong option
To alleviate damage you just pop bear form, wait for blink, stun, cyclone, help from your partner and then you heal and go bear again (especially against classes like rogues, monks which are on you 90% uptime)
Cat form damage is worth, easy to do but hard to master because if you go damage you dont heal and some good timed cc from opponents can lose you arena
vagrant grotto
Affinity feral/guardian, depends on preference, both is good, feral is for more ...
Hmm. I've yet to try Convoke with Feral. How long should I be tanking as Bear? Is it better to just run?
echo canopy
if melees is on you, you should stay in bear
you dont bear only if you are not focused by melee
in arenas
and its always better to run from them, but sometimes its not possible
you usually have to use some form of cc to run, which might be on cooldown etc.
fresh estuary
i chose necrolord as resto for pvp, although revendreth is such a beautiful area
echo canopy
their job is basically to stun you out of your bear form and kill you in chain cc
devout frost
Fleshcraft immune shield 
@fresh estuary imagine if blizz didnt tie player power to the choice so you could choose the aesthetic you'd prefer without gimping yourself gameplaywise : )
fresh estuary
indeed... i hope the change it soon so I can switch. othwerwise i will get an alt 😛
echo canopy
so your gameplay is basically like -> hot yourself -> bearform -> use bear abilities for some time -> cc (vortex, stun, cyclone...) -> run -> hot yourself -> bearform -> repeat
vagrant grotto
you usually have to use some form of cc to run, which might be on cooldown etc.
So I should be using my bash for running instead of doing damage?
echo canopy
if you are focused then you use it to run
if not you can use it to chain cc their healer and clone
devout frost
there are cases where it's better to use it to setup a kill but its best to not do it as default
vagrant grotto
so your gameplay is basically like -> hot yourself -> bearform -> use bear abili...
Damn. That's literally what I do. + moonsunfire when I can?
vagrant grotto
if not you can use it to chain cc their healer and clone
What do you mean by clone?
devout frost
cyclone
vagrant grotto
there are cases where it's better to use it to setup a kill but its best to not ...
I guess everything is a per case basis. Adaptability wins arenas.
devout frost
yes
Reactive gameplay > Proactive gameplay
But it's best to practice for the default scenarios first
echo canopy
3s are very hard and resto druid is the hardest healer I would say
devout frost
Cause if you dont have the basics adapting to enemy means you cna make silly mistakes instead
echo canopy
you have many options and its hard to master it
shadowlands is very bursty so far I think it gets better with gear but its hard to survive
devout frost
its usually like that early xpac imo
look last xpac, the dominating meta for season 1 was turbo
and then ench has never been meta again after for whole xpac
echo canopy
yeah
devout frost
mostly cause they scuffed their healing as well tho
winged charm
What covenant do u go as resto for pvp arena?
vagrant grotto
3s are very hard and resto druid is the hardest healer I would say
I remember when we were the best. cries in tree form
devout frost
@winged charm necro or kyrian pref
vagrant grotto
Def necro/kyrian.
winged charm
whats kyrian abilitys again?
vagrant grotto
Fleshcraft is chef's kiss
devout frost
@winged charm bind with ally then empower bond
winged charm
i see
exotic wolf
@ the boomy pros in here
can I stack multiple starfall?
or do I overwrite my first if I press the second one
devout frost
cant stack
exotic wolf
does anyone know if there is arena water ingame? if yes, where do I get it and how is it called?
lean hawk
does anyone know if there is arena water ingame? if yes, where do I get it and h...
normal water works in arena
jaunty heart
I’m a resto Druid that chose night Fae. Did I do good fam?
Think a pounce / bash / convoke will work up to 1900?
forest kite
I have a question that I don't know has been answered so please BEAR with me ahahha
tiny oar
Shouldn't have any issues getting to 2100/ glad with any covenant choice @jaunty heart
forest kite
So, I went kyrian and I'm currently playing boomy. I know to use my kindred spirit on myself, but for feral and resto do I do the same thing?
devout frost
convoke is hard to use well in arenas imo but anything works in lower brackets
jaunty heart
Shouldn't have any issues getting to 2100/ glad with any covenant choice <@48960...
The channel just scares me, it’s like trying to picture pulling off a tranquility in arena
But cat affinity + convoke is the nastiest thing I’ve ever done in this game
tiny oar
Yea just have to be conscious of when you can get a guaranteed channel off. Ie no interrupts, and you're on dr for cc, or during a setup with no enemy trinkets with both ppl locked down.
devout frost
yeah its a slim scenario
some players in lower ratings just tunnel on main target tho
so can get free channel off
forest kite
So do I always bind my kyrian ability to myself?
vagrant grotto
I’m a resto Druid that chose night Fae. Did I do good fam?
The cov abilities are a weaker choice but the soulbinds are pretty great.
winter spindle
So, I went kyrian and I'm currently playing boomy. I know to use my kindred spir...
Feral yes, resto no
open verge
im gonna miss convoke on feral
exotic wolf
convoke is so damn fun
fleet pulsar
Anyone tried Boomy in BGs?
arctic smelt
Hello all, I'm not much of a PvPer but I might do some in SL... I was wondering, will there be some kind of scalling in arena/bg ?
devout frost
what do you mean @arctic smelt
open verge
@arctic smelt they haven't mentioned any scaling and there's nothing yet
So for now I'd assume there won't be
The gear difference is not as drastic
night sable
They should do some scaling for random bgs though, e.g., cap all gear there to 197 (max obtainable from random bgs)
open verge
No
They could scale up the lowest ilvl to some minimum. But they shouldn't cap the highest
night sable
Or scale up to, say, 216, sure
open verge
Random BGs are there to have fun, people want to make use of the gear they farmed
It's an mmo, there's no equal ground
People put time in and want to see the difference
vernal warren
hi5 fellow old folk
vernal warren
well theres an incredible version of it that exists
the og gunbound thors hammer, just google it
night sable
Do people in m0 get bosses from m5? They don't. Random bgs are pvp0. They should not get enemies from pvp2200, m15 and raidMax. There should be some form of scaling in random bgs
vernal warren
i play it once in a while with friends while drinking or something its a blast
@night sable sure, but there needs to be an avenue for people to enjoy the rewards of their labour
open verge
That's such a stupid argument damn
lethal hearth
Hello there what do you guys recommend for feral 2v2 mostly ?I see many top players already went Kyrian but yesterday some 2900 hunter told me i should go Night fae beacuse its bis and kyrian is nothing compared to convoke :/
open verge
I do think convoke might be solid for double dps 2s
full oyster
What's best legendary for resto in arenas? Swiftmend or faster hots/dots maybe?
tiny oar
Swiftmend bis but the recipe is from a world boss so not available yet @full oyster
full oyster
Swiftmend bis but the recipe is from a world boss so not available yet <@4500435...
ty, didn't know that.
devout frost
yes selfstunning is strong in pvp xd @obtuse ice
@lethal hearth convoke is easy to play around while kyrian is just a 15% dmg increase
forest kite
hello guys. What is the optimal covenant for feral pvp? i am thinking of night fae but i am not so sure
thanks in advance
craggy mirage
which covenant would you guys say is the best for balance druid in pvp?
obtuse ice
Kyrian
devout frost
@craggy mirage just read the pins zz
onyx eagle
Is feral viable in pvp? Both bgs and arena
dusty comet
For random bgs? Sure
Rbgs no chance
No reason to take a feral over a boomkin or a rogue
open verge
rip
rich hill
do I even want crit as a resto?
forest kite
Hey guys
any reason this doesnt work?
/cast [@arena1,exists] Cyclone; Cyclone
(im trying to have it cast cyclone at my selected target if arena1 does not exist, eg outside of arena)
im also looking for a working shadowmeld prowl maim macro
karmic locust
You guys running circle of life and death on feral?
dusty comet
Is that the clear cast? I’m taking that and the one that refunds combo points with finishers
karmic locust
It's the dot damage ticks increased by 25%
Speed of ticks or whatever
"damage over time effects deal there damage in 25% less time"
open verge
guys as boomies is there a case where you'd hardcast your starfires?
forest kite
is there any resource someone can link that covers PVP macros for druids
fresh estuary
@forest kite http://www.skill-capped.com/app.php/macros/
forest kite
@fresh estuary thank you
gilded edge
fierce tide
i duno but its fun to use
wish i could test it with the full plague deviser tree with that cc immunity during shield casts
dusty sphinx
Mixed opinions on resto pvp.
It's either necro or NF
Necro is likely to be really good once some of the soulbind goodies kick in
winter spindle
guys as boomies is there a case where you'd hardcast your starfires?
If you’re in lunar eclipse and can free cast
fierce tide
its ok, the burst thing is hit or miss and only ever 2 min
winter spindle
Or to get into solar eclipse
fierce tide
can be really awesome or a dud
i guess thats the point
i just play guardian sometimes and hate channeling so i probably wont go nf
winter spindle
I’m really sad to say but night fae is 100% getting nerfed in pvp, it can 100-0 two people with cds up
I can see the QQ beginning on the forums soon
fierce tide
sounds like a fun server down activity, wonder what kinda qq'in is going on right now
confirmed convoke boomy being discussed in non-druid threads lol
novel sky
Feral convoke is nasty too
fierce tide
just 'coming up' as hey btw f that op skill.. but druids themselves call it 1/10 actually doing what you want it to do
dusty sphinx
Wouldn't surprise me if they gave it the resto treatment by lowering the number of spells from 16 to 12
fierce tide
9/10 doing more healing and going on pets and stuff
novel sky
They already did that once haha
simple loom
What covenant do I chose as feral
dusty sphinx
Yeah
novel sky
Convoke is incredibly fun to press
open verge
But sometimes it's really difficult to set up for it. Like if some class has a pet, you can be pretty sure the pet will take all the hits and dies. If they gut it I hope they at least make it smarter
But if you get a single target without a way out of your stun then it's gg
Which is only good in randoms
simple loom
What covenant do I chose as feral ?
forest kite
anyone has an addon like sortgroup
or how do you guys use party123 macros for things like skirmishes?
open verge
no stealth/immunity then I guess its not even worth queueing lol
winter spindle
The 9k full moon crits just hit different
icy rock
What resto lego do most folks have their eye on? Swiftmend hot extender to pair with necro?
noble holly
@simple loom skill capped is suggesting necro
dusty comet
neon hatch
is there a bg guide for balance?
small storm
winter spindle
For the fae
That settles it
keen vault
Facts:
Fae has a queen
Fae has beastiality
Fae has impulsive gambling based ability that people thirst for
SImpin' ain't ez.
noble holly
anyone has an addon like sortgroup
Also curious on this
elder pilot
that's it. I wont touch pvp until the insane burstdmg is gone
can't stand being 2 shotted
sage ridge
How's balance pvp feeling so far?
forest kite
@noble holly sortgroup still works, you need to setup a raidprofile sorting on role
or in my case, enable sorting of raid based on role in the elvui config
fathom spire
I recall randomly hearing cdew say resto druids wont be able to use rejuv against some class?
is there some covenant ability from a class that disables your spells?
jade elbow
Thoughtsteal priest pvp talent
signal willow
For mindgames too
fathom spire
oh that's dirty...
signal willow
Every time you heal with mindgames on you, it deals dmg instead
jade elbow
Thoughtsteal actually steals tha ability so you can’t press it
Mind games is dispellable so make sure you pay attention for it
Priests are spooky rn lol
worn phoenix
Hey folks. I remember that in the past Guardian druid was fairy viable as a pvp spec. Is that still the case?
fossil elbow
So be fair priests usually won’t run thoughtsteal on things that aren’t a lock or mage
They’re other really good options but thoughtsteal takes poly and fear from them
frank crown
How viable do you guys thing fps will be season 1?
Got some friends that wanna try it
tender bluff
Anyone know if enchants on pvp gear will remain if you upgrade the piece, or does it get wiped off?
oak cedar
Rdruid w/convoke + sub rogue opener is so deadly loool
elder pilot
pvp is a mess. >.<
signal willow
I've been doing solo queue skirms as Kyr Guardian and it's pretty fun. I run Roar of the Protector and Demo Roar to help survive the initial burst and I can give a DPS 20% extra damage with Kindred Spirits. In BGs, Kindred Spirts is actually really nice for FC as you can put it on healers and you're super tanky with it up
open verge
is there a bis pvp gearing upgrade path?;d
devout frost
yes @open verge
open verge
god damn MMs dmg is ridiculous
lone finch
am I losing much if I go night fae resto instead of necro for pvp?
keen sphinx
Hm idiotferal went kyrian
sleek pelican
Any of you guys play feral at like 2400+?
obtuse ice
I was :
sleek pelican
I'm a disabled player (3 fingers on my only hand) and I manage a lot of keybinds but I find that when you get to a higher level (like glad level) you need A LOT of macros.
obtuse ice
only in 2s
keen sphinx
Stompy get the logitech g600 or some kind of macro mouse
keen sphinx
Ah okay nice
sleek pelican
still though
kick 123 clone 123 dispel 123 thorns 123 grip to p1 p2
Lots of macros 😄
I basically came in here to ask how much time you spend doing utility stuff vs dotting people up/doing goes or trying to restealth
Cause obv feral is a hybrid with a lot of utility
keen sphinx
For feral?
sleek pelican
ye
keen sphinx
Yeah well it really is situational you have to read the game.
I would say it comes with experience
sleek pelican
Let me explain in more detail
So as ele if you
If you're in trouble you do a lot of utility on the go weaved in with doing dmg
You kind of do everything all at once
Basically my question is this: with feral is it more like alternating between the two or is it more like ele where you do everything all at once
keen sphinx
Alternate
When you have your cds you apply as much pressure as you can
Then you wanna rotate your utility in
sleek pelican
Awesome
Because my problem when playing ele isn't having so much utility
The problem is that you have to do EVERYTHING at the same time
keen sphinx
Yeah ele is quite frontloaded with push all the things!
sleek pelican
Purge, dispel, grounding, tremor, keep flame shock on everyone, knock them back if they get too close, totem and then kite around pillar
You can imagine doing that with one hand 😄
keen sphinx
Feral though don't forget to clone things like bop or disperse when you get people in kill range
sleek pelican
haha
keen sphinx
Hey man that's impressive that you kick ass with one hand
sleek pelican
Thanks
I used to play a fair bit of resto and clone is my fav cc in the game
So much outplay potential
keen sphinx
Ahh my man! Clone is our life force.
open verge
its also a pretty complicated one imho
sleek pelican
oh ye for sure
open verge
I mean you can really fuck stuff up with a bad clone
sleek pelican
I remember in BFA I sometimes saw rogue/rdruid in 2s
Which obv revolves around cloning at the right time A LOT
When I played vs ones that didn't it was insta loss for them. They had no actual pressure unless they cloned perfectly.
keen sphinx
Shadow dance here I g.... Cyclone
chilly fog
Does anyone know the stat prio for rdruid in PvP?
chilly fog
Thanks, icy veins and wowhead said haste vers I believe (checked it yesterday), but I'm pretty hesitant on relying on those sources vs actual pvpers
sleek pelican
everything's moved too fast with balancing etc
some guides were written a month ago
sleek pelican
@keen sphinx Would you say feral is satisfying to play in terms of doing dmg I guess?
I remember sometime in BFA bean literally quit retail for months because it did nothing
chilly fog
Well necro power scales on mastery, so it might be super good to stack mastery for the increased healing
keen sphinx
If you leave a feral unchecked right now we will murder your whole family
They're the strongest they've been since cata
open verge
well, but dont you think that other classes are top as well
keen sphinx
It's a build for damage it takes a little to set it up , but it just keeps coming now. It feels really good.
open verge
just look at WW, MM, sub
true pendant
Lmao
Mop feral was 10x better
Huge dmg instant clones from cat
Actually good survivability
keen sphinx
Actually I didn't play alot of mop but yeah instant clone was nuts.
But yeah @sleek pelican the damage feels great. We still lack survivability but we have good things coming with soul binds
Survivability from burst I should say
sleek pelican
Dam
sleek pelican
They're the strongest they've been since cata
dam
both in terms of
dam
and damn
damn
keen sphinx
Haha go out there and kitty it up !
sleek pelican
But what you said about utility is that you basically don't do it all at the same time, right?
More like do a go, maybe clone, get out, off heal if needed
keen sphinx
Clone use your bash efficiently
So if your team is behind you should be using your regrowth instant more and main
But it's not all at once like I said. Because you have so many bleeds you can alternate
placid mirage
are there any good youtubers/streamers of boomy 2s? .... lol