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stray sigil
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u said those r not nerfs

pallid coral
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fuck i hate betas when people like you crawl out of the goddamn woodwork

stray sigil
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alpha or not

pallid coral
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because

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you are missing

stray sigil
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these r nerfs

pallid coral
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the entire context

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of it

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being

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an alpha

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datamined

stray sigil
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nop inam

pallid coral
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systemic changes

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what is not getting through that skull of yours

stray sigil
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ur just being a complete fucking isiott

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idiot

slate nimbus
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why u even would compare current statement of spec with different expansion when u don’t know about tuning even

hollow flame
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Enough

pallid coral
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FUCKING EXACTLY @slate nimbus

stray sigil
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@hollow flame thats a great expert ungot there bro

amber hedge
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Tuning doesnt matter, they are nerfs

stray sigil
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make sure dont ban or anything 4head

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but its fine

pallid coral
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If you are calling anything a nerf without the full context you're being a Muppet

slate nimbus
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so, bt changes would be nerf for u with rip doing 70% of ur dps in sl?

pallid coral
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And reeing about it being a nerf is dumb

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Express measured feedback

stray sigil
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oh now dyne is here we stop calling us idiots and clowns

pallid coral
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And concern

stray sigil
pallid coral
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?

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Lol

stray sigil
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goos boy

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go back to sleep

hollow flame
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So have you Fuji, this ends now

stray sigil
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good sof

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dog

pallid coral
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Lmao

stray sigil
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ya differenxe is

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im not an expert or anything

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this guys being sumb

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for no reasob

amber hedge
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No, bloodtalons just got even more clunky and annoying to deal with.

stray sigil
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we literally said its alpha nerfs and hes like

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DERP NOT NERFS CUZ ALPHA DERP

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ALL OF U CLOWNS DERPS

hollow flame
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What part of enough is it that you do not understand?

stray sigil
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ME RIGHT DERP

pallid coral
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Yes because it's NOT lmao

feral prawn
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You guys need to chill

pallid coral
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You're missing all of the context

stray sigil
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here we go again

pallid coral
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Of systemic changes to the entire goddamn game

stray sigil
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hes still not getting it

pallid coral
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ROFL fuck me

stray sigil
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systemic changes 4head

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big words doesnt understand them

pallid coral
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like it's an incomplete DATAMINING

amber hedge
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Yes, and based on it it looks like feral is getting the shaft

stray sigil
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dude you r so dense...

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BASED IN WHAT WE HAVE

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THOSE R NERFS

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END OF STORY

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DONT U GET IT

hollow flame
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$mute 142673512987885568

last owlBOT
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Done.

hollow flame
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When I say enough I really mean it

amber hedge
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Why do you mute only one guy when everyone's being just as annoying. Especially seeing as both Fuji and myself are multiglad/r1 experts saying nothing but truth based on the information available (what are we supposed to do? Wait until it's released and there's nothing to do about it?)

silver trout
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@pallid coral what do you think about the covenant abilities for resto pvp?

pallid coral
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Idk I don't play resto

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You are being a Muppet and overreacting to limited information

amber hedge
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It's the "it's just alpha, it's just beta, it's just release, it's just prepatch" nonsense all over

slate nimbus
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r1 experts, excuse me what 4head

pallid coral
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Expressing concern or feedback about something is very different

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To Reeeeee they're NERFING us

hollow flame
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$mute 114637789760323592 Take a break as well

last owlBOT
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Done.

amber hedge
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I think we pretty clearly outlined the issues

slate nimbus
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u know, following ur logic, feral was getting nerfs since pandaria

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problem is, that pandaria and bfa are different games

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with different meta

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and u can’t compare it in such way

amber hedge
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Yeah, Feral hasnt been getting better since MoP. It's been nothing but a constant reduction of the spec to a DPS bot. Especially after WoD.

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The Feral toolkit has only gotten nerfed

slate nimbus
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as any other classes

amber hedge
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Implying that's a good thing?

slate nimbus
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u just need to admit, that new expansion is different game once it released

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and 1m bash might be even op thing coming with aoe roar from guard aff and cyclone baseline

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cuz of meta

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that u didn’t learn yet

amber hedge
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Mate, Ive read enough patch notes to know exactly what it will end up looking like if it goes live like that.

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Incap Roar is on incap dr, thus DRing wity both sheep and freezing trap

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It sucks

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With*

slate nimbus
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ye, tell it to wod ebola

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for r1 expert u r telling really silly things

amber hedge
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If ebola is the only viable Feral spec Id rather quit

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Dps bot comp deluxe

lime light
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w/e iam sick of jungle

slate nimbus
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first your mistake, that u r trying to judge spec state compare to how it was before instead of across all classes and their specs. And now u can’t do it right till u get more info about all classes

stray sigil
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i get ur point but we have some info on other classes

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albeit alpha blabla

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so its fine for people to look at the notes and be upset

slate nimbus
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it’s fine but not objectively when u don’t see numbers at least

stray sigil
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yeah but thats wasnt our point

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we said looking on the surface

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those are nerfs

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based on the information we have NOW

forest kite
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Has anyone been looking into shadowlands?? I want to be a night fae but it looks like to be viable for PVP you need to go Necrolord. Anyone else see anything different??

stray sigil
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havent rly looked at covenants

amber hedge
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Bar no ridiculous tuning necrolord seems mandatory

lime light
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the only good thing i can see right now is, they prolly wanna make feral bleed spec again

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looking at bt being able to buff rip

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only

stray sigil
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whats necro cov ability?

amber hedge
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Swarm that increases periodic damage or healing

stray sigil
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is it symbiosis

amber hedge
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On target

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  • a shield defensive
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(Which is the non-class specific ability)

stray sigil
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kyran is symbiosis right?

lime light
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lets hope for now, they remove the faction spells

stray sigil
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or am i dumb

forest kite
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Necrolords get a shield that’s stronger when there’s enemy corpses around.

amber hedge
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I think so yes

forest kite
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So a rated 10v10, sounds OP.

amber hedge
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Depending on what they put in that lite-symbiosis it could be good

forest kite
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As a restro Druid, it sounds like another Barkskin I can give out.

feral prawn
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It's kinda not like symbiosis since you wont get a ability from the class you put it on, you will only get an effect from the role like it is damage tank or heal

amber hedge
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I dont think you can give it to others

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The necrolord shield

forest kite
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I think you can

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One sec

lime light
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@forest kite that bracket is ded long time ago

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let the rbgs

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sleep in pce

feral prawn
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Lol

lime light
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give us 3vs3 solo q

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thats all we need

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decent pvp gearing

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and actual balance

amber hedge
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And more cc/utility allowing us to be more than dps bots

lime light
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ye

feral prawn
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3v3 soloq would be such a cool thing since I dont have many pvp minded friends

lime light
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give locks

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2nd spell that they can spam

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that is not with dr

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with fear

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please

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so i dont have to play

amber hedge
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I meant Feral

lime light
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my chararacter

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anymore

forest kite
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That’s Night Fae

lime light
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idk cyclone feels soo weird in feral in bfa, it looks cool u can cyclone

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but u cant

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rly

feral prawn
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Hard casting as feral sucks

lime light
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some instant clone with ps, but on 45 sec cd

amber hedge
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Yeah thats why we need more stuff to support it

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Like

stray sigil
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night far.looks.like ass lmfao

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fae*

forest kite
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Right

feral prawn
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For pvp at least I agree

forest kite
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Only cool thing about it is you get to be a fox.

stray sigil
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whats the other 2 are they as bad

forest kite
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I’ll sc one sec

amber hedge
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At least powershifting, hibernate on ps, typhoon not being a dead talent (balance affinity is completely dead). Id also love for cyclone to be castable on ps or in form but #doubt

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And no mighty bash nerfs

stray sigil
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weirdest thing is

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hotw supposedly on bash row

lime light
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and please remove this fucking scalling

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if i see 100k hp pleb

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no matter what he do

stray sigil
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which is very fucking awkward

amber hedge
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Yeah hotw is dead talent

lime light
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he should be ded

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to my one spell

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thats how it works

stray sigil
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means either we wont take bash

lime light
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not like i bite him for 120k, while he has 100k

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and he is 80% hp

stray sigil
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or hotw wont be used

amber hedge
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It's also only a 35% buff to healing

stray sigil
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either way its shit

amber hedge
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It's a nerfed hotw

slate nimbus
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if hotw 6m cd again couldyounot bench

stray sigil
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numbers will be tuned

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for sure

forest kite
amber hedge
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It's 5min cd 3akatz

stray sigil
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but atm its bad

amber hedge
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The new version

forest kite
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Necrolords def looks best in my opinion

stray sigil
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vampire could be decebt

slate nimbus
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vampires looks cool but will be shit as always

stray sigil
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depends on thennumbers

forest kite
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The vampire one is the only one where the spell could bite you in the ass.

stray sigil
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well ya

slate nimbus
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looks like u will get grand delusion dmg as soon as u tank kidney and ur vampire s stack will explode

amber hedge
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In pvp I think youll get "bit in the ass" quite a lot

stray sigil
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but might be worth it if the dmg part isngood

amber hedge
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Exactly, whenever you get stunned you'll get bombed

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Unless they tune it ridiculously it sucks. Regardless it makes for horrible gameplay imo

stray sigil
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imagine it drs stuns though

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could be interesting

amber hedge
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Lol that'd broken and so annoying

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😂 wouldnt be surprised

stray sigil
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it is blissard afterall lol

split timber
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From sots, manor, atal that my friends have high keys which drop useful stuff for ferals (for pvp but pve gear is ok)

summer oasis
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is this normal bite damage?

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am i doing something wrong?

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is bite really cucked in pvp?

stray sigil
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was this on plate?

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if so kinda normal unfortunately

lime light
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looks kinda high if on plate

summer oasis
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on a disc priest and demonhunter

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so mostly the disc

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feelsbadman

rigid linden
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That on a dummy with no vers?

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Nvm thorns dam

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That's big bite dam wtf 133k

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How

pallid coral
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i banged a mage

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playing this gear

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not blood

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i'm playing breath

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but yeah

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just TF + my one MI and honed proc

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i think i was streaming that game

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so i can prob find the clip

vast vapor
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is streaking stars even that good for balance as its pretty nerfed in pvp

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guides say its second after pulsar

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HoD could prolly beat it?

pallid coral
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so looks like it's one piece MI proc, honed mind, and cloak proc

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and i have an Elemental whirl proc there as well

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but IDK what stat it procced

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it's not crit

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but could be vers haste or mast

rigid linden
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LOL I love the holyyy

pallid coral
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it was a large number LOL

rigid linden
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That's some fat 25% passive vers u got there got dayun

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Gimme a versatile

pallid coral
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i like this setup the most out of the one i've tried. I've tried versatile + ta2, i've tried versatile + stars 2, i've tried stars 3.

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this is easily the one i feel best about

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i want that chest from a big mask

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it's like

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GIGA bis pvp chest

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MI, HOD, Vers passive, Resounding or switch

wise valley
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watching that vid made me cringe and really miss power shifting when he nova'd you

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like something hit my heart

pallid coral
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yes

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it felt so fucking smooth

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i really miss power shifting

rich crag
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i don't have a lot of choices atm but can take (as feral) infinite stars 3 or infinite stars 1, a weak gushing wound (425 ilevel) and then some void rituals and a twlight devastation 2. Kinda hurting for pvp but just started working on him last week. is Infinite stars really that bad ?

pallid coral
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it was maybe op

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but yeah

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it's probably fine

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it's certainly not v good

rich crag
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75 corruption for rank 3 though thats pretty much the only one i can sue or i have to mix and match haha

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Got a leech one for 8% as well... dunno if that one is worthwhile but i never read about it in the guides so probably not lol

rich crag
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MIght sound like a dumb question but do speed items +speed, compile over top of cat form ? (So if i have 5% speed) I would go even faster as a cat or is it overwritten since the form already makes you faster ?

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Weird, corruption works but that doesn't haha. OK thanks a lot. Shouldn't be factoring in those pieces I suppose. Same goes for non rated BG and skirmishes right? I guess in the world everything works.

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Thanks for the insight also

ionic shuttle
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Is shadowlands gonna be ok for boonies @vestal citrus

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Boomies

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Game wasn’t fun anymore I unsubbed

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Tired of doing stuff I didn’t want to do for the thing I wanted to do

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Only to lose to rng corruptions brother

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I don’t mind rot games but being viable would be nice again

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#saveboomie

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Make stellar flare do actual damage and I think boomie can be nice

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Middle of the pack is good it means you can still get Highrank from workin hard

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Shit tier only the gifted can be up there

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😑

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I see everyone is level 50 are they not gonna a give everyone full access to lvl 60 and do arena war games with all the gear

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I’m watching supatease at lvl 50

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Agh

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you’d figure with ai tuning would be done in no time

edgy oxide
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number tuning won't be done until like a week or two after the expansion is even released, honestly

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then will be changed more when raids come out

rigid linden
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my whack asf pvp stats

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LOL

quaint mulch
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How fucked am i playing balance in feral gear for bgs

fervent dragon
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So for PVP at 60, how does gearing work for the most part?
Do you just go 1/29/21 and just get good gear for all resto/bear/cat?

fair imp
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does master shapeshifter affects crucible of flames and trinckets?

wise valley
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@quaint mulch just as fucked as playing boomy with boomy gear 😰😰

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@BigBelts#3483 probably more likely to get an educated response from #classic or the classic wow specific discord.

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Nvm then

quaint mulch
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u mean to tell me boomy not good in bgs rn? @wise valley

wise valley
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For util yeah

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Ig

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I did a bg earlier with boomy and warlock

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Oof

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Think boomy dmg on mid level with no defensives if youre getting fucked.

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My opinion on druid is there no reason to play anything that isnt resto

quaint mulch
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thats big sad

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healing bgs is most boring ever

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screw it i stick to feral then

wise valley
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Boomy better than feral tho imo for bgs

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Feral bgs rip legion

restive depot
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just curious

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im trying to push 2's for 2400 so i can get the r4 essence

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im a boomy main and i am fully geared out for that spec

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i have no previous high cr xp in this game. Is it more worth to rerole resto for 2's or continue as boomy

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if so what comp is okay for a boomy to run in 2's?

lime light
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Resto yes

rigid linden
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^

restive depot
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what kind of class should I look for as a partner?

tardy hare
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dh dk lock

restive depot
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awesome! Thank you

hasty mesa
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Can you please tell me what is this addon with such nameplates?

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It also show you if target has any dps cds on or cc

pallid coral
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My initial predictions for which comps will be good in shadowlands:
RMX
Lock Shaman X
Double Melee Pala

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🙂

opal sluice
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RMX
radical prediction

pallid coral
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I know but I have a good feeling about rmx this expansion

lime light
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Yes

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RMX might be viable

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In next ixpac

patent dove
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I‘m telling you guys

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Caster cleave with pally heal is back

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Conventration aura looks way too good

pallid coral
pallid coral
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15 even

wise valley
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turbo gonna clap

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warrior looking fucking solid, probably going to be my release toon

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MM also looks to be pumping out big numbas

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so mnaybe jungle will be decent

lime light
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mm is legit compy paste from legion rn

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just dispel

wise valley
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pika was dueling on it

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big hits

pallid coral
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@wise valley you're trolling right?

wise valley
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about jungle?

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yes

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about mm

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no

pallid coral
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idk if you've been through many alphas

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but numbers are very very not done yet 😛

wise valley
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im speculating

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@pallid coral please dont ever do that emoji again

pallid coral
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😛 😛

wise valley
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mom pick me up im scared

edgy oxide
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😛

obtuse sleet
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whats good comp for 2s as resto druid?

wise valley
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Lock dh dk

obtuse sleet
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why dh if u could explain ?

wise valley
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Anyone with 4 functional brain cells actually

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Yeah ill explain

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Dh does huge dmg

obtuse sleet
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ah

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i have gained braincell

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thank

wise valley
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40 yard fre cast heals and cat weave rake stun

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Good pressure

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U can move in and out of range for clone/heals los ezpz

west oasis
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@obtuse sleet dh mobility and rdruid mobility is crazy in 2s

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You can always caster form wild charge to him effectively and he can come to you and give decent peel tools

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Also dh can kite with your hots and be fine

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While you sit down and drink if needed

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Druid is also one of the best healers into late dampening and dh has manaburn

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So you'll be fine throughout the game and never feel time pressured

obtuse sleet
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should i be playing aggressive in that scenario with a dh?

wise valley
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@rigid linden

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i didnt know you were 😓 so strong 🤒 🤒

west oasis
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@obtuse sleet you certainly can, most high rated rdruids do that

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aggressive cyclone plays are fine but not necessary

wise valley
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aggro catweaving plays in general are 1. super satisfying 2. super sexy

west oasis
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it's the catweaving that adds up alot at the end

atomic comet
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Any ferals with +2k exp want to play arcane feral healer?

rich crag
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Gotta try to decide if I want to get into another heroic maut to try and bonus roll a weapon lol... was painful doing it once already haha

heady osprey
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Guys

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Is EV still only 50% dmg in Arena?
I thought they reverted that

rigid linden
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Still 50%

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It's poo

rigid linden
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Best off getting maut weapon than maybe like vers or mastery multipliers

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And maybe 1 rank 3 mindflay

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But always maut wep imo

rich crag
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Well I am trying and hoping 🙂 haha

dim stump
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how is feral vs balance in pvp?

lime light
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jungle is ok, in other comps they are at the same garbage lvl

dim stump
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@lime light What do you mean by jungle?

pallid coral
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Feral hunter healer

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He's wrong though

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Feral is pretty strictly better than balance in PvP

dim stump
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And balance looks better in PvE

pallid coral
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It's not really

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They're pretty close in pve

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If you look at logs

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Balance is far more widely played tho

rich crag
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A well played feral is amazing and fun. I played a bunch over the last year or so and it's probably the most fulfilling class to beat people 1v1, etc.... Especially if/when they out gear you....

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The only class that will give you fits is probably a good survival hunter... lol

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And I have been booted out of m+ groups when they find out I am feral ; "nice pvp spec scrub" lol.. oh well 🙂

finite linden
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What affinity is best for feral in arenas (2s & 3s) and rbgs?

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I also tried playing resto yesterday with a rogue and monk and damn

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We got buttslammed

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Any tips for resto in 3s?

rich crag
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I can only say for the world stuff and regular randoms and whatever it would have to be resto, though I guess for arenas some would take guardian for the bear form extras

pallid coral
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i can go another 1% versa but lose 5% mast

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so

rigid linden
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😦 gimme % vers

pallid coral
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Big tank spec

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6 more potential sockets too

forest kite
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wow, nice

slate nimbus
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75 bike all u need singingflower

wind kettle
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Is guardian still a thing in 3s? I have about 30 verse if I want it. But the azerite ilvl is a bit low. 480s are resto.

dry field
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13% crit, 22 % haste 19 % master 10% vers

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Currnetly not running infinite stars - would it be worth picking up? Im playing with a survival hunter atm

tiny oar
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U can proc it pretty well with master shapeshift catweave so ye I'd give it a whirl

vestal gorge
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any 2k+ 2v2/3v3 balance druids here for a question?

weary orbit
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Can anyone point me to a good Resto druid twitch?

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want to watch raid content to get a better grip on healing rotations etc

west oasis
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uhh if you want raid content #resto should know better

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@finite linden rogue/monk is uhhh very... unique lol. You basically just make sure every1 is pre-hotted well enough and since that comp is about setup, you try to find setups with your cyclones

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so for instance incap -> cyclone

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or if your rogue gets good saps, sap -> cyclone

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or you create your own cc-chain

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you need cc-chains in that comp, but it's very hard, and honestly you're better off with a meta comp that's easier to play

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like dh/warr or something like that

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TLDR:

  • play 40 yds back
  • only move up when necessary (like on a go)
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oh, and be ready to press bearform alot

pallid coral
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@tiny oar Don't need to catweave

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you can just heal

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and it will still proc

rough pivot
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cape

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oops

pearl geyser
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i haven't played in a fat minute, what are the top feral pvp talents?

wise valley
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charge/bash/resto aff/soul/pw or brutal/moc

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did i miss any

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last talent is choice

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pref

pearl geyser
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wait moc over bt?

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wait i thought it was a fight between bt and ff i haven't seen a feral ever take moc, did something change?

rich crag
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MOC is helpful to get CP fast and consistently so some prefer that...shrug as he said personal preference.

wise valley
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i prefer FF over BT

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moc over ff usually with sotf

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constant energy

rich crag
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In PVP I prefer FF also though I do miss the complexity sometimes of BT but in a PVP situation sometimes you focus a bit too much on the buff and it can be a bit tedious/cumbersome "sometimes"

wise valley
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ff is good for quick bite set up

rich crag
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I finally figured out how to get a quick macro going for rake resets with VOP and incarn without completely separate keybind and it was so simple just didn't think it would work 🙂

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Feral's are absolutely amazing at counter ganking players who try to gank you while you are fighting a rare in uldum/vale it happened 3 times today and I was 2-0 with one no contest... he ran away. It's hilarious because the original situation is him and the rare vs you, then its you and the mob vs him and most of them don't have the same easy escapes 🙂

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Beat some 470 enhance that way was priceless 🙂

stray sigil
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@pearl geyser na dont touch moc in pvp

remote parcel
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where i buy the arena water?

rigid linden
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whoever said MOC in pvp is trolling hard

wise valley
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sometimes im too lazy to change

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dont @ me

#

@rigid linden u aint even been 1600 this season you havent seen the tings i have seen

rigid linden
#

smh

wise valley
#

1600 problems require 1600 solution

queen copper
#

god i hate DHs

#

sitting ~2k as boomy/rsham but damn

stray sigil
#

ur problem is playing boomy in 2s unfortunately

queen copper
#

yep 😦

#

i need more understanding of DH too

#

perma meta =S

wise valley
#

dh not looking too hot in sl

rich crag
#

I have 3 clips over the past 2 days with DH.... all ending with them dying horribly because of quality kites and good use of meld and VOP procs

fringe hare
#

reverse magic btw

stray sigil
#

my guy they can reverse 1 root every 45s lol

#

just root dh is indeed the play

#

or just kill him works too

tardy hare
#

Just play natures grasp

#

Its so free

rigid linden
#

KINGS

obtuse marsh
#

I’ve been mostly playing with DH while ranking up but now I’m out of the potatoe ranks, I find DHs need quite a lot of feral affinity help from me to score kills vs healer dps teams unless we go into deep dampening. I don’t really like playing so aggressive and prefer to be a little more passive with guardian affinity and clones from a safe distance. Would I be better off with a DK or Lock partner? I feel they both have more tools to score kills against healer teams (necro/fear)

#

I know I should learn to be better at feral affinity but it’s just not my playstyle

obtuse marsh
#

I feel like I am weaker in dampening than some healers like MW, for example

#

Cocoon is an amazing tool for dampening

#

As with their teleport

#

The games I’ve consistently won vs healer teams have been won before dampening gets so nasty that hots are no longer enough and you have to start hard casting

fast shuttle
#

@rich crag i would love to see those clips, im a simple man, i see boomie i like, i see DH die, i like

#

also @queen copper how do you usually play your matchups? im sure im not the only boomy here trying to hit 1800 in the 2s bracket, i also happen to play with an rsham mostly. im still gearing my boomy so i havent been in the arena yet but i typically have been playing surv hunter, ive played a lot of boomy in past xpacs so im familiar with how to play it overall

What kind of talent/essence build do you tpyically go for and what are some specific matchups where you swap to something else.
do you usually try to kill dps in healer cc setups or do you try to kill healer? or perhaps just try to pressure both while kiting

rich crag
#

Will up my videos at some point need to edit them though first a bit 🙂

fast shuttle
#

please do! need more boomie content to watch lol

rich crag
#

Unfortunately, I play feral. LOL 🙂

wise valley
#

@tardy hare

#

you got some bangers going bruh

tardy hare
#

: )

tiny oar
#

Good band

pearl geyser
#

best feral engage atm?

#

is it still just apply all dots FB and re stealth watch them bleed?

lime light
#

no

#

need to bite a lot

stray sigil
#

bleed never kills anything anymore

pearl geyser
#

so just go balls to the wall and keep your target stunned as long as possible while biting him in the ass over and over? lol

rich crag
#

You need to use your entire toolkit to wittle someone down while waiting for incarn windows. Maim/IJ FF + bites. You also need to define the setting. 1V1, Arena, World as there are a ton of dynamics that apply to each scenario

crude matrix
#

quick question

#

What are talents for feral pvp

#

not pvp talents but actual talents

harsh ore
#

i figured it out

#

u run both vitality conduit and overgrowth

#

and not one or the other

#

ez games

forest kite
#

what do feral/hpalas counter

#

i legit cant think of any comp

stray sigil
#

cuz it doesnt counter anything

forest kite
#

thats a rip

#

does changing healers change anything

#

oh wait actually serious question time

#

HoD with Jungle fury or maim/wall build?

#

heard heart of darkness doesnt change in arenas so it's OP but moving away from maim build sounds scuffed

stray sigil
#

preference

forest kite
#

but why is it preference

stray sigil
#

i dont like ij mi so im going hotd

#

cuz it really doesnt matter what u pick

forest kite
#

why doesnt it matter

stray sigil
#

cuz every trait we have are scuffed

forest kite
#

true

#

still cant see the value in HoD if you can play maim build

stray sigil
#

its more consistent

#

than mi ij

forest kite
#

what rating are you at @stray sigil

stray sigil
#

i was 2.3 earlier this week

forest kite
#

aight

stray sigil
#

but i play with friends so my cr fluctuate

forest kite
#

same

#

just trying to understand why people are playing HoD

#

whether its because the set is easier to get than maim build

#

or whether it's because its good

stray sigil
#

its a lot of raw stats

forest kite
#

yeah i get that, but i still don't know if it's more efficient than maim/wall build

#

considering you use wall for dps as well

stray sigil
#

like i said its up to u

#

i dont like the concept of mi

forest kite
#

unsure

stray sigil
#

so i prefer hotd

#

3 hotd is like 10% mas 4% vers or something

#

3 mi will give u around 40% mas in pvp

forest kite
#

yeah i mentioned that @vestal citrus

stray sigil
#

is 84 x 3

#

not 800

#

ya but

#

2 stats are worthless

forest kite
#

any r1 ferals in the chat

#

cos i feel like im getting no answers

#

its like when i go into pve n its just "sim yourself"

#

u get me

stray sigil
#

formy also plays a weird build

#

i know suffre streams a lot

forest kite
#

play yourself and feel it out is just like "sim yourself" tho

stray sigil
#

and he plays it

#

might be worth checking out

forest kite
#

whats a weird build

stray sigil
#

mocfernando is suffre

#

fyi

#

lol

forest kite
#

yeah but whats a weird build

#

what build does he play

#

tony is god tier but hes not in here so i cant ask

stray sigil
#

formy plays vers crit build

#

im still waiting for the yearly cass stream

#

to ask him about it

#

but alas

forest kite
#

yeah same

#

id be firing into his twitch stream so fast

stray sigil
#

my mans dont stream much

forest kite
#

but this is second best

stray sigil
#

ik ferarri streams soemtimes

#

rarely plays feral

#

but hes still very good might be worth asking him too

#

tony and suffre stream in the morning

#

i dont think na ferals play much hotd

serene dagger
#

ive heard the djalex feral is insane

forest kite
#

get out of here alex

#

n go ask tony for me

#

so i dont waste my time in here ty

stray sigil
#

if ur not russian

#

tony is sketch

#

cuz like

forest kite
#

sketch?

stray sigil
#

big potato

forest kite
#

wat

#

yeah i have really decent gear

stray sigil
#

%mas would affect hotd too

#

not sure why thats a mi thing

forest kite
#

whilst we're here boys

#

corruption, would you use r3 mind flay, r2 infinite stars

#

or

stray sigil
#

mindflay

forest kite
#

a mixture of mastery/vers amps

#

all with weapon

stray sigil
#

mas vers corruptions are better for feral

#

mind flay is just cheese

#

stars is abd

forest kite
#

yeah im thinking that too

#

it feels nice for me

#

not relying on mind flays, is procs

stray sigil
#

if u have gyushing

serene dagger
#

i feel like u should play the avoidance= haste

stray sigil
#

its very good aswell

forest kite
#

if i had gushing

serene dagger
#

@forest kite

forest kite
#

i wouldnt be asking the question

serene dagger
#

avoidance = haste is good ive heard 🙂

stray sigil
forest kite
#

LUCKY

stray sigil
#

poggers

forest kite
#

i just started playing pvp so i just want my questions answered

#

got to like 2375 in 2 weeks but

stray sigil
#

only thing though

forest kite
#

there must be smth im missing

stray sigil
#

is that

#

hotd vs spites

#

can get very sketchy

#

cuz my set has 36 corruption i think

forest kite
#

but wait

#

do i stop watching tony cos hes sketchy

#

?

stray sigil
#

no i meant it like

#

tony's english

#

is almost non existent

forest kite
#

thats not true

#

hes answered a few of my questions

#

but hes not online

#

n i wanna know now

#

and have different viewpoints

#

bc im a noob

#

n im still learning

#

u get me

stray sigil
#

hoesntly i wouldnt even bother min maxing that much

#

xpac blows

forest kite
#

but why not

stray sigil
#

season blows

forest kite
#

thats a shit excuse

#

thats an awful excuse

#

thats like me losing a game n saying the game is shit

#

and not me

#

when i know i can do better

#

so we ignore that comment

stray sigil
#

na cuz the game is shit

#

there are some games

#

doesnt matter if u played bad or good

forest kite
#

i just dont think thats true at all

#

i refuse to believe it

stray sigil
#

idk what to tell u then lol

#

u havent qd much this season or something

forest kite
#

i think ur hard stuck 2300 and u dont wanna get better

#

honestly

#

if u think the game is shit

stray sigil
#

if that makes u feel better

forest kite
#

and you lose bc of that

#

i dont need to feel better tho

#

im just asking questions

#

and trying to get better myself

#

youre right

stray sigil
#

go ask good ferals how they feel

#

about this season

#

😄

forest kite
#

ive barely played pvp

stray sigil
#

or xpac

#

😄

serene dagger
#

what does that have to do with any of her questiosn

#

u donkey

stray sigil
#

think ur hard stuck 2300 and u dont wanna get better
honestly
if u think the game is shit

#

i dont need

#

a simp coming in

forest kite
#

thats how you sound tho

#

"i lost bc the game is bad"

#

"i played perfect every time"

stray sigil
#

im telling you things how they are

serene dagger
#

imagine talking when ur blazingboosted 😉 @stray sigil

stray sigil
#

if u refuse to accept it

#

then thats oni u

forest kite
#

is there any good feral druids in the chat

#

cos rn

stray sigil
#

u come here asking for counters in 2s

#

makes me believe

forest kite
#

im talking to someone with less exp than me

stray sigil
#

u havent played this game much

forest kite
#

and im bad

#

so that doesnt say much

stray sigil
#

shoot ur ign

forest kite
#

i was curious

stray sigil
#

if ur gonna flame me

forest kite
#

n then i ask a serious question

serene dagger
#

me?

forest kite
#

heart of darkness - main build

stray sigil
#

atleast show ur name

forest kite
#

wait

#

who are you addressing

stray sigil
#

u

#

lmao

forest kite
#

my name is the same ign

stray sigil
#

so

forest kite
#

?

stray sigil
#

ill say this

#

nicely

#

u are flaming me

#

for being lower cr

#

but

#

u are

#

negative winrate

#

2.3 player

forest kite
#

flaming

stray sigil
#

?????????????

#

dont see anything ironic here

forest kite
#

im legit asking if theres anyone more experienced than me

stray sigil
#

lmao

serene dagger
#

ur legit a blazingboosted feral

#

@stray sigil

stray sigil
#

how am i

#

a blazin boosted LOL

rich crag
#

It's always a treat when I happen to destroy elitist toxic players like eloraa in world PVP despite the talking down to people who don't have the "rating" to have valid opinions 🙂

forest kite
#

that can answer my questions without saying "up to you"

#

elitist

#

fuck @serene dagger

#

ur destroying me

stray sigil
#

idk

#

u two

#

sound very

#

toxic

#

and ur obviously

#

getting boosted in 2s

#

so dont flame people

forest kite
#

@rich crag uve lost me

#

wow i didnt realise i offended you so much

rich crag
#

Well you are talking down to him....

forest kite
#

simp squad inc

stray sigil
forest kite
#

what is this community

stray sigil
#

any other season

#

ur 1800

#

sry

forest kite
#

i legit

#

just said

stray sigil
#

but liek dont come here flaming me

rich crag
#

You didn't it's actually entertaining but it's not surprising as players with your mentality obviously need to feel like they are always upsetting someone 🙂

forest kite
#

i havent played lmao

#

i have admitted

stray sigil
#

u have 500 games

forest kite
#

i am bad lmao

stray sigil
#

havent played

#

???

forest kite
#

ok

#

sorry for upsetting you fuji xoxo

#

im sorry, i hope you dont cry yourself to sleep

stray sigil
#

@hollow flame

forest kite
#

i didnt realise my words meant so much

#

from a bad feral

stray sigil
#

is there something to do

#

about this egirl

forest kite
#

wooooooooowwwwwwww

surreal heron
stray sigil
#

u come here asking questions

forest kite
#

youre a joke

stray sigil
#

i answer

#

then u say

#

"ur bad "

#

ok bro

forest kite
#

you didnt answer the questions

#

i said I am bad?

stray sigil
#

i absolutely did

forest kite
#

yeah but you said "its your preference"

stray sigil
#

wether u liked the answers

#

is another topic

forest kite
#

i wanna know why one is better than the other

#

god

stray sigil
#

i told u

#

that traits dont matter

forest kite
#

you didnt

#

traits do matter

#

otherwise why are people running 3 main traits

#

2 wall traits

#

im confused

stray sigil
#

"cuz every trait we have are scuffed"

#

except i did

#

all our traits are scuffed

forest kite
#

thats not an answer

#

n then you say

stray sigil
#

it doesnt matter what u pick

forest kite
#

you lose bc game is bad

#

like

#

wat

#

WeirdChamp

stray sigil
#

there are games u wont win

#

cuz the game is tragic

forest kite
#

because game is bad?

stray sigil
#

yes

#

jungle vs destro

#

nigh impossible

forest kite
#

Why delete that comment

stray sigil
#

cuz the game is poorly balanced

#

delete what comment

#

my discord is laggy

forest kite
#

its not impossible to win

#

no no, someone deleted mine dw

rich crag
#

This is the absolute epidemy of toxicity 🙂 It's magical to see it in action in it's own way haha

forest kite
#

toxic?

#

wow

#

you live under a rock then

stray sigil
#

ur missing the point

#

entirely

#

ofc every game is winnable

forest kite
#

im legit having a conversation

stray sigil
#

thats not the point we facing humans mistakes happen

#

doesnt mean its not a shit game state

#

doesnt mean u shouldnt lose to destros

#

go watch axtin

forest kite
#

yeah thats my point too tho

stray sigil
#

and ask him

#

how he feels about destro as jungle

#

hell summ it up for u

forest kite
#

feel like were on the same page but ur defensive

stray sigil
#

ofc im defensive u said im shit 5mins ago cuz im liek 30cr below

#

lmfao

forest kite
#

aight i followed axtin n ill ask him then

#

i started pvping 2 weeks ago, u called me boosted

#

and youre not answering my question

stray sigil
#

i mean

rich crag
#

It's actually insanity to imagine how this guy eloraa doesn't understand why someone he insults wouldn't be defensive 🙂

stray sigil
#

looking at check-pvp

forest kite
#

n then you mention that im female

stray sigil
#

u look a bit boosted yes

forest kite
#

like an incel

#

chill out

stray sigil
#

doesnt help ur simp buddy came in here

#

super agressive

#

when i said anything about u

forest kite
#

aggressive

stray sigil
#

lol

forest kite
#

have u seen yourself

stray sigil
#

by any chance

#

is he

#

ur partner

#

in 2s

forest kite
#

yep

stray sigil
#

yes that would make sense

forest kite
#

but then again, youre still acting like a moron yeah

#

like chill

#

i admitted im bad

#

you have to too at some point

stray sigil
#

u said ur bad after calling me shit

#

to make it feel better

forest kite
#

i didnt call you shit

stray sigil
#

u did

#

lol

forest kite
#

screenshot

#

wait

#

lets take this to dms yeah

#

no point having it here

#

legit just spamming this for no reason

stray sigil
#

i dont care enough to dm u lol

forest kite
#

ah but you care enough to have it here

#

shows the type of person you are

#

monkey

stray sigil
#

yep def

forest kite
#

@serene dagger

#

says the blazingboost boy

serene dagger
#

@stray sigil KEKW

#

is this how u got ur 2300

forest kite
#

imagine

#

having to buy aotc

#

imagine telling me im bad

#

when youve peaked

#

2385

stray sigil
#

u peaked 2472

#

2372

forest kite
#

and played for a year

stray sigil
#

playing with a booster

#

??

#

hello

#

why are u even flaming other people

forest kite
#

i get it

#

i play better than you

stray sigil
#

sure u do

forest kite
#

and peaked the same in 2 weeks

#

than you did in a year

stray sigil
#

ofc u did

forest kite
#

i understand man

#

dw about it

stray sigil
#

grats

forest kite
#

you think youre big shit

#

answering questions when you have less knowledge than me

stray sigil
#

sure thing

forest kite
#

should have just asked "sketchy" tony

stray sigil
#

are you ok

#

seems like 2372 got u a big ego

#

not sure why

forest kite
#

no no

#

ive said

#

4 times that im bad

stray sigil
#

oh yes

forest kite
#

but you cant admit that youre bad too

#

unfortch

stray sigil
#

thats not it

forest kite
#

no but it is

stray sigil
#

its that i dont wanna hear that im shit coming from someone who got boosted in 2s

#

thats all

forest kite
#

lmao

#

did you not say you didnt want to take it into dms?

#

imagine

stray sigil
#

i didnt until i went to message ur buddy

#

and noticed

#

now im curious to what ull say

forest kite
#

message him

#

go for it

stray sigil
#

i dont have to

#

the proof is there

#

lol

forest kite
#

proof lmao

#

youre delusional

#

who even are you, im here to get answers n you dont have them

#

move on

stray sigil
#

ok!

rigid linden
#

check out these fat fkn stats

#

21 vers 50% crit >:D

forest kite
#

why do play this build @rigid linden

rigid linden
#

Cause i get more combo points from all the crits, lets me put out more bites and also has my LOTP Crit healing alot, regrowth crit heals alot and the playstyle i do is like a sub rogue so when i want to blow someone up with Stun Feral frenzy Bite essense its almost always criting cause Tigers fury puts me at like 80% crit in PVP

#

its kinda gimpy but ive only gone up in rating since playing it

#

id still recommend 3x IJ 2x MI and 1x JF with Vers>Mastery>haste>crit for new ferals

#

Why? Because you wont win most games as a feral druid with ur consistent damage/ you burst someone and ride that momentum

#

make people shit themselves with ur opener/burst

#

puts u ahead of the game

#

when i look for vers mastery builds i go to his page

#

hes a king

#

as for corrupt

#

ALWAYS use maut wep

#

then slip in a r3 mindflay OR get urself some vers and mastery % or proc pieces

#

or even better a gushing wound piece is insane

#

even if its like haste crit shitty stats or w.e

#

i use these

stray sigil
#

@rigid linden

rigid linden
#

i h8 u

#

thats fat

stray sigil
#

fat as fuck

rigid linden
#

ill get 1 next week

#

i believe

stray sigil
#

every week is dog chest week tettleslul

rigid linden
#

But ya @forest kite dont try to understand why i do my weird builds im in a swamp of my own

#

just do the vers mastery stuff with IJ SI

forest kite
#

yeah scaring the healer is what i find works better for me, since i can burst a lot. I have vers and mastery amps, but also a r3 mindflay so what would you suggest i use out of those?

stray sigil
#

@rigid linden u face any spitters with ur hod build

forest kite
#

and yeah im just tryna understand different builds, just wanna improve you know

rigid linden
#

all ive gotten is "wtf is ur burst" with my build LOL

#

uhm is the vers mastery amps

#

on vers mastery pieces?

forest kite
#

yeah ive had that a few times, which makes me want to go more crit considering what you said about it

#

yeah theyre all on vers mastery pieces

rigid linden
#

Ya use those i reckon

#

itll also make u a better player in the long run

#

knowing that ur dam isnt gimped by a mindflay

#

sucking on ppl

forest kite
#

thank youuuuu very much

rigid linden
#

especially if its baddies who never kill mindflay

#

npnp, i try and keep our race alive

forest kite
#

and you said maim/wall build is better right?

rigid linden
#

even tho i run meme builds

#

ya

#

100%

#

i use maim with my crit build just for a stun but if it was IJ procced id be so happy

#

thats why im trying to get Jf/IJ pieces

#

to keep the crit and have IJ

forest kite
#

yeah i understand that

#

thank you very very much

#

i got my answers

#

@rigid linden thoughts on mecha bracers with 12% crit amp?

#

is mecha bracers good as a standard or nah

#

mastery amp

#

mbmb

rigid linden
#

na i tested them they poop, dont even crit too

forest kite
#

would i take them off even with my 12% mastery amp

rigid linden
#

just test it, maybe u have other pieces that give mastery on wrists that make ur total mastery more than if u would have the % amp on

forest kite
#

tyty

#

ill see what else i have in my bags

#

probs a shit tonne since i have lots of gear

#

but yeah thanks for answering all my questions reasonably

rigid linden
#

yeah as much as i hate being told to just sim it or test it theres some truth to it LOL, just check stats when it comes to that typa corrupt

forest kite
#

Yeah I totally understand that

#

I’m just at the stage where I want to know why I’m using specific corruptions and stuff

#

May as well min max since I want to

#

But monkaW when there’s no valid reasons for the answers I get to my questions

quaint mulch
#

what setup should i be running for RBGs on Feral

#

talent wise