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is guardian druid still viable in pvp after the nerfs?
mostly bgs and 1600 rating in arena
no pushing anything
anything is viable at 1600
i just qued 2s with fury warrior as feral and we ran at people
guardian with corruption is better then boomkin in 3v3
Guardian + disc in 2v2 can work?
die.
Lul
Im br, so im in the right way i think
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Guardian is the jeitinho brasileiro of playing arena
You know it's wrong
And you're going to hell for it
Rlx man, im just a noob having fun at 1500 rating
@lime light where are u from?
No witaj :D
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hey, do u guys know anyone who can coach for resto druid? restos so op in arena but i suck at it badly
tips would be helpful too
You can just leave a vod or questions here
Are the mechagon leather writs - Wraps of electrostatic power worth it?
just dropped some ilevel 455
looks like a nice dot
Depends on stats
I have repented @lime light
My main is ally feral
And now my alt is horde feral
All is right brother
No more filthy dh abuse in my life
@obtuse ice are you proud of me friend?
Anyone have any expertise one which is a better comp for 2's: Resto druid + WW monk or Boomy + WW monk? Trying to get to 1800 with my friend as resto(my main spec) and him a WW(his MS is brew), and having issues past 1600. We got to 1600 with a 20-3 WL ratio(approx) but once we got past there its like 2-9 WL Ratio.
think its not worth it for PvE but its off gcd
so could be nice with maledict or the mechagon trincket
I have those and i quite like em on my boomer druid
yeah sounds abour right
depends what u wanna do, and if u play in deep damp
cuz early on thorns does nothing, if u hitting their healer
cuz they can outheal it easly
but in geenral
vs most of the melees its good
he is so strong
@obtuse ice my destiny is my own.
Then you should respect others destiny
Not if bear.
Yes if bear
no
@obtuse ice what Tony did?
btw the some erruption trinket from raid
crits for 150k
XD
almost there boys, now need a non ghetto chest
and bike trinket
and there is no way, mw or rdru survive
wut!?
when they nerfed it?
bro dk is broken
tried feral mage resto sham
it didnt work too good
@lime light is iron jaws any good these days
Yeah its seems okish now
But imo MI i better
If h have a choice
Ij seems to be rly good vs mws / rdruds
Useless vs heavy armor classes
Maybe not useless, but not that great
@vestal citrus u mean 20 sec cd with other on use
Its fine i think
But there is another trinket from raid
only reason bike was op was cuz u could bike badge
I faced feral hpal at 2.4k mmr
idk if its that good now
was he bote ?
dont see how it gets to 150k
Hpal did more dmg
unless he had like 475 ilvl
mechgon
i was talking about raid trinket rn
but bike is rly good also
but the other one seems to be isnta kill almost
if u have 2x
ty
think raid trinket not good vs everything
its physical dmg so like war hpal and dk gonna take no dmg
its a better version of bike i think yes
when i played with fire mage + heal we seemed to not be able to finish off people
iam not sure about that since
FF is also bleed
but BT used to be better vs platers i agree
ofc u dont
but bleeds not gonna do anything, till deep damp
and disc wont survive that long vs dk hpal
i seem to always
lose when games go longer
and i wouldnt blame healer for that he is really good, far better than me
depends vs what u play
Tony almost bt always
thjen u have zev is always ff and hes the best na feral
i also prefer bt
but its worse vs some shit
do you guys notice better overall damage with BT?
hell yes lol
i actually feel bleeds doing something
like i can somewhat rot with bt
breath of the dying > BOTE=crucible and conflict if u need versa in stuns
ya breath is reallyu good
i switched up the other day
ur openers are fucking crazy
disagree
idk i feel like, doin rot dmg is wrong in most of the match ups
Yes
and its only way to win vs some shit
Are you listening to me
ya ur saying bt makes game longer
im telling you playing ff into dk hpal makes game 100x longer than playing it with bt
ya but were saying bt has a niche place
and it doesnt necessarily increases game time
also ff is fucking boring
Overall yes I think
Just wanted to point that even if you play BT and you have big dps
If you can't kill target because you don't one shot it
It's useless
2s not really about oneshots anyways
wanna try this with bt
i tried vop + incarn, seems not that bad vs some comps, kinda fun having big cd
like incarn
yeah
what the fuck
it does pretty good dmg now
they buffed it at some point
i tried on dk, did pretty good
whats wrong
i enjoy both of the classes
at least, one class can gaspedal this fucking worlocks abusers
with 600khp
Flame minor suck ass
Clf big pro damgur
mioght aswell get rid of it
LOL
Root druid is good
it is
but like
its not like he has to dispell it at all LOl
roots gonna break from ur bleeds anyways
pretty sure it does break on dmg
yep
Then I'm big lucky
it does yes
its not legion anymore
we had a trait
thats the guy
it says 170k
the trinket
ofc
seems like it
It's me
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i feel BT gives you more options ye
you have the option to bleed and run or go for some sort of burst setup with bite/maim
whereas ff, you're sort of force into just bursting
harder to play tho
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dh needs more burst change my mind
Hehheheheheheheheheheheehe
Look at that fatty gear
Are any of the new essence good for resto in arenas?
thanks, is the major any good or just the minor? Also RIP have to do another long rep grind
is soul of the forest used for 2s or 3s? im struggling in 2s atm, read those guides but im worried they're more for 3s maybe?
im finding myself so reliant on it that whenever I need to regrrowth its getting kicked. I'm trying my best to juke, but I guess I'm not insane at it yet
since regrowth is almost my only casted ability
how about on myself though
ie. with a rogue on me in 2s
attempting? ursols, wildl charge and such? bash?
sweet thanks, yeah I wasn't doing nearly enough frenzied regens for sure
like glyph said
consider the C&S major since the double versa'd when stunned + bear = unkillable
While you are stunned, the defensive benefit from your Versatility is doubled.```
im running that rn
the DH cord is boring
@rigid linden how is that raid trinket?
the mechagon motorcycle one does less dmg but only to 1 target
and bigger cd
How do I survive a DH with infinite stars as resto?
I see
what if he's with an Hpal?
freedom just negates roots and vortex. But I'll try that out, thanks
I'll clone every dh
but it drs with entangling bark root
its worth if you can get a drink off it. if he reverses it just bash clone him, if he trinkets ursols and charge away and gg
doing this you get his reverse and his trinket, it's a good trade for one cd imho
If he reverses the bark root he'll get rerooted immediately
Hey guys can someone help me out? I have Problems in 2s . When i Play vs meele i Cant rlly do too much Dmg on him when he sits on me.( boomy)
what are you playing with?
if you play with disc he can pump if they go on you
and if you have enough versa you should be able to stand your ground with the iron feather talent
idk name of talent but it reduces crit chance and increases armor in boomy form if im not wrong
and if you have some good trinkets boomy disco should work
ok
discord looks weird today
tho
5.5k into honoured
@vestal citrus
lol
u can quote now

idk i have around that aswel
but there is that Ruski guy
he said that, he was revered like 4 days ago
prolly its worth if u insc
and u rush to revered
make contracts
free money
ye, but u cant buy rep

they should sell rep in wow shop tho
insta buy
Question fellas: Should I play major Conflict or Crucible in 2s as Rdruid? To clarify make the assumption that I'll be playing kitty w/ master shapeshifter.
russki is here 6/21 nowadays
actually yes, must be doing every single wq for rep, but iโve restricted myself only with ap one
iโll stop after accord exalted
imagine how its painful to grind on alts
iam playing on 4 characters 
or if u wanna make fresh one 
obv not doin dailys

Gotta enjoy the last months of BFA before the fun is over

should I run cyclone in 2s against double melee as resto? I feel like I cant ever cast it if they are on me ( new to arena, currently 1,4k )
Bike, the eruption trinket from raid-that does 170k physcial dmg - armor (heroic version)
Pvp trinkets
On use main stat, main stat proc
Versa on use if high ilvl
Battle master vs rogue mage is also good
Maybe even safeguard vs that
Gonna try the drest trinket next week
i dint get it this week
and regarding corruptions
gushing wounds if possible, maut weapon?
Right
There is one rly good corruption, but i have aeen IT only once in arena
Some "leash"
Does rly good dam
+slow 30%
Nah
Gushing wound is best
The thing is, you cant just look at absolute damage when looking at corruption
Cuz it all has a cost
Ofc a max tentacle is good damage
But it costs like 66 corruption
While gushing wound would be like 15 corruption for almost as much damage

Come come
Any recommendations on YouTube channels or other video series that deep dives into resto pvp, specifically arena and preferably updated through 8.3?
My maut weap was my 2nd highest damage in a 3s game last night, bout 10.5%
But typically it's around 5-7%
give me 10 of thosed
A bad little cat during treatment at the clinic
feral in arena
damn i really like BotD in arena
about to get r3 BOTE aswell
but grinding r3 botd
yikes
gonna take 3000years
Mastery OVERRATED
only 10 tho, but gonna test
but wait
the main target still gets
the 27k too
so its ~~100k
hmmm
no flame ofc Sir
I deff do one of those
Got garbage tho
8% leech bracers I wonder how that does in pvp
I hate stormwind tho
Orgrimmar one is a lot better
Bruh
Just do em
You can get 4 per week
I think you dont have to save this week
Only starting next week you might want to save 2
still seems to be decent
Is Resto-WW-DH viable at all? Not listed in that link
yes
@stable island dont use icy veins for pvp purposes
Also there's no way in hell that a reasonable person would say WMPal is same tier as RMPal, or Cupid is same tier as TSG, or that Feral Enhance is same tier as Feral Destro
dont feel like tsg is great this patch, but wwdk holy fok
Yeah but neither is cupid
I dont remember the last time I even faced cupid
Let alone lose to it
ww seems giga stronk
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icy veins 
hello. I've been pvping as a feral since... lets see... well this characters near entire existance... but i'm noticing something sadly
namely, either my bars are fudged up or guardian would be better in my current gear level
owlplay not even on tier list
Bommy op tbh
i meant from icyveins link
i know it's strong, just takes more than 2 braincells to play
Ok 3 maybe
LOL
I mean
It's neither strong
Nor does it take braincells to play
Current boomie is hella shallow
i dont have the meme trinkets
Then don't complain you can't kill druids
104% mastery with 2x mi in pvp
Bites around 60k non-crit on leather yeah
The perfect combo with ij proc can be massive if it all crits
But I think I prefer worldvein major over bote
ij proc?
Only 21% crit, even after bote thats less than 50%
No point in playing bote like this
Iron jaws
If there's one thing ferals can do in pvp
Is kill leather/cloth
You cant really outpressure people, or kite very well, you dont have a slow, defensively you're also worse off than a rogue
But goddamn my bites hurt
im gonna try
get the drest trink
and more mast versa
jesus another stomp bg
and each is 10m que
i havent been this tilted since i played dota
no brother
i have gotten the r3
and i dont intend to play bgs ever again
and if i dont wake up to something nice in chest tomorrow i dont intend to sub ever again either
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I got 3% leech belt from vision full clear
And void ritual from m+ chest
And a trinket from pvp chest
Blizz hates me
And I hate them right back
how are u guys feeling vs destro lock + hpala?
yo how the fuck am I supposed to outheal a rogue?
I can peel whenever they pop cds, spam heal without any interruptions and theyll just kill my partner regardless
Aah shit, i did my arena's but forgot to fill the bar, is that 460 lost to me or will it be there when i fill the bar this week?
i mean itโs ok but itโs only 10 seconds and both the mastery and dmg absorb is low
Why are you taking that tho
That piece has
MASTERFUL INSTINCTS????????????
No meme we arent even in the feral channel
I mean mi + iron jaws
And you're taking jungle fury
In the #pvp channel
You're trolliiiing
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living in the wrong season
iron jaws is worthy with 2 of them or do you need 3?
2 is fine
2 is pgood already
It's unreliable but
At least it's impactful
When it procs and you get a combo with it
Everything that isnt mi or ij just doesnt feel like it does anything
To win the game
got 3x mi and 2x ij atm
@clear pulsar mi + ij shoulders from pvp?
I know there is bo chest, so i will keep ij + jf chest
- ij + mi pvp head and hoepfully there are shoulders from pvp
With mi ij
Next week are shoulders from cap?
I think trinket next week
Trinket next week, then chest, gloves/belt, then shoulder
:(
We're week 3 rn, shoulder is week 7
Is feral decent at all in the morning 2s and 3s. Think Iโm ready to retire my MM meme
It can get by in 3s?
Theres ferals having success, so yea
I was playing boomie last season, or atleast trying to play it
Switched to feral for this season, its a blast
Feral sometimes feels lacking but it's fine
Finally have burst
Now im guessing how strong arms or some dh must be to play itself
t3 echoing void or t3 tendrils? can only choose 1
so uh
kinda curious
I used this build i called mage eater for awhile, but currently switched it up and am not sure if it still has the same crunching power
Ok?
time to git gud
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So what do you guys take as essences?
breath major cns lucid clf minor
I swear this reputation is killing me inside
prob another monk or more left for me
will be faster when ppl start putting contracts on ah
Im new to pvp i was wondering what the best most up to date azerite traits for feral are?
Stack MI+IJ
it is a bad cd
berserk is the big bad
adrenaline better imo
With a little dps boost
adrenaline rush? is that a rogue thing
ya its outlaw cd
is weekly cache based on highest rating all season or just previous week
Previous week
cheers
Need to win 1 game in ur highest bracket for it to count
Yu0
any tips as feral against dh?
Run
no 2v2
usually against dh mistweaver/resto
and i just cant beat them
with my guardian druid teammate
and the times we almost beat him, he goes up in the sky to do his thingy
and finishes one of us off
@obtuse ice
Feral guardian?
Reroll assa rogue
yes i know its not ideal but he's my friend
@lime light why?
do i need a win for weekly cache or can i just cap conquest bar and still get the 1800 reward?
u need a win in the bracket you want a reward for
so if 2v2 2,4 and 3v3 2,1, you'll want a win in 2v2 for 2,4 reward
Cuz it's toxic af, it's a shallow spec that people who are entirely clueless about pvp can just play as and drag games for 8 mins longer than they would have been if they werent passively outhealing their healers and outdamaging the enemy team @small storm
There were only 0 r1 guardians cuz the supatease was incompetent and thug obviously only cared about his lock
But that doesnt mean 1. the spec wasnt good, 2. it isn't toxic af to play with or against
well sorry to say but we gear supatease in our heroic runs :^)
I knew the note I made for you was accurate
Poggers in the dreamgrove
Bleed both 20k dps big pump
why am i getting an urge to play wow
Yours is 'baguette' @obtuse ice
dirty mexican
hes been trying to hide it from us
Yhea
but now it has been revealed
I don't have his acc
sigh depressing game
me neither hes a lurker
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applying update
aphelios is so strong
Damn breadon
BROOOO
Stop league
I may be a lurker hiding my character but
You might as well be one too @stray sigil
Fucking name changing and faction changing every 3 weeks I swear
Bullshit
wym
about to beat leon
i see myself on check pvp brother
become pokemon champion
I SEE THRU YOU
A deception
An illusion?
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING
And you server change like the fucking plague
Probably stealing from gbanks and xferring
should i play classic
is it cuz im black
or retail
that you say that

im the galarian pokemon champion
this dude wearin a fuckin snapback with a fuckin purple cape and shorts on top of athletic pamnts
my fav pokemon is splinter
why is it dead
blizz was right
you think you do but you dont
now they proved their point and will close the servers
No, still boomkers Play it
is void ritual the new meta? tony running double void ritual?
idk there are still a decent amount of people on classic
No @last trout
The buff hasnt even been pushed thru yet
And it certainly wont be the meta even after buff
so he didnt get any other corruptions yet xD
@lime light do they have est classis population ?
cus it's failing
kek
shadowlands doesnt even look good
i cant find 1 intersting or nique thing they;ve released so far
@obtuse ice ive gotten 5 pentas as aphelios
Ok boomer
are holy priests unbeatable
like they got the thing that makes them take one cc off
then they have the thing on low cd that makes them able to cast 2 greater heals and be un-ccable
for the whole duration
should we even attack them
like I fought against uh dk/holy priest and couldnt do anything
tried to kill holy priest but couldnt do shit
how do you beat them then
like you could never stun them
and he heals to full during that thing
couldnt clone him
been able to beat the other ones but not this one
or do you not have anything constructive to say
other than some shit
no i dont have anything to say
i havent even fought one
U have 3 seconds to stop a cast
i dont know shit

but he couldnt be cced during that
im random scrub
or kicked
i just got a shiny shellder
it wasnt
holy ward
I got rid of it
then he used some thing afterwards
some aoe thing on the ground
that made him unkickable and unstunnable
not sure what its called im gonna ask a priest
Just hit the dps?
He has to come at you at some point
He'll go behind the pikkar
Pillar*
Ofc he can be ccd
Just break the ward
Then clone
You can double clone
Back to back
Or yeah 1 cp maim
Whatever
Anything
it was probably holy word concentration with fade
then he just casts it twice and I cant do anything about it
Had to be fade with it
But
That's also his one defensive so
????
It just seems like you mentally cant stand waiting something out
Or having a window where you cant do damage to someone
well the time I deal dmg to him he just outheals it all with that
guess gotta try to kill him in between them or something
guess gotta try to kill him in between them or something
@livid wasp
in between defensives and heals?
is this your first day doing arena?
in between the concentration and fade combo heals cause he heals to full with that
youre clearly here just to be a prick to random people
door is that way
interesting
Are you talking about holy priest destro comp?
no
Vs that seriously just afk
hes talking about hpriest uhdk
Ah that one is not bad
well its kinda aids since you cant do anything to it when he uses holy word concentration and fade, he gets 3 greater heals off
2*
yeah but he cant 100-0 burst the priest without interruption so hes whining
im asking for advice
You're not listening to advice tho
"cant dmg or cc during X and Y"
who says im not listening to advice
grezgre
so dont fucking blow cd's during X or Y
what if the priest always pops them when I start doing damage
poppin xanz
Then youre not doing much during the game
flexxin bandz
youre an asshole you know that?
im aware
go away
awear
you dont even play the game so why are you here
educate yourself in the nuances of street language
@clear pulsar




