pvp

[obtuse ice]

Echoing void the best by far yhea

[clear pulsar]

Not by far

It's aoe and splits damage

I prefer devour vitality

It's very close in damage to my echoing void

But more reliable and consistent

And the weapon has versa mastery

While my ring with echoing void has a lot of crit

[obtuse ice]

If echoing is doing same dmg as maut's wep

there is def a problem here xd

[glad smelt]

What pvp talents should I take for guardian in 2s?

Can't find a guide anywhere

[gleaming lion]

So if Im playing guardian in 2s and go against a resto druid, do I just lose?

[clear pulsar]

🤢

I dont know if you just lose, but I hope you do for playing guardian

[glad smelt]

Lol

[gleaming lion]

dw Im not playing it out of pleasure

I just want my essence

and never touch pvp again

[clear pulsar]

Resto will be much smoother and stronger than guardian

If you just care about essence probably resto dh is the easiest comp you can play

Or resto destro

Guardian got significant nerfs thankfully

But if you're wondering about talents, I'd imagine demo roar 100% of the time, then maybe take master shapeshifter and protector of the pack, idk it's all weird

Guardian is just weird gameplay, you press buttons and do top damage and hope that's enough

[glad smelt]

Lol

It's fun but these nerfs hurt us

[clear pulsar]

I think the only way guardian is any better than feral or resto rn in 2s is if you have big twilight devastation and/or echoing void proc

[stray sigil]

dh guard is super cancer in 2s from experience

played vs that ape blindweebs qing that shit

[gleaming lion]

played dh guard vs fire mage rogue, they 100 to 0 my dh all before I was able to move

[full maple]

I got rank 3 grasping tentacles today, suddenly duelist doesnt seem so far away 🧐

love this patch

[stray sigil]

im almost duelist without any corruption

feelsbadman

[clear pulsar]

Nice

I havent been able to play much

Only did few quick wins for engi helm

[lime light]

@stray sigil u are na?

[stray sigil]

ya

na feral lul

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

i meant im one q sesh away lol

2.1 is piss ez to get

[lime light]

yeah

u need some time tho

[stray sigil]

meh

could do it tonight

if i found a decent hpal

i been playing with 1.8 xp hpals

ruff

[lime light]

pve gear hpal

insane in 2s

he cant die, he is doing dmg when healing

[stray sigil]

ya but low xp hpals dont understand how to bop

very unfortunate

[lime light]

ye, iam killing most of the hpals in opener as dk

they bop

at 10%

[stray sigil]

ya

[lime light]

and they think

its ok

[stray sigil]

that hpal i played eoth last night

was like boping at 20% vs disc assa

pretty troll

and kept using blind

[lime light]

XD

[stray sigil]

fucked my bleeds even though i told him to spec shirt hoj and rep when i asked

[lime light]

full bleeds

into blind

[stray sigil]

ya

[lime light]

my favorite

[stray sigil]

was vs dk hpal

so i was bt

double bt bleeds

[lime light]

u only play rep vs like mirror

[stray sigil]

gone

[lime light]

i would say

[stray sigil]

:)

i like rep vs hpals

like assa rogue and shit

not dks or dh

war is ok to play rep into too imo

[small storm]

cvert can fuck off

@ cvert

[stray sigil]

tf is a cvert

[clear pulsar]

5 failed runs wew

[stray sigil]

i failed mine today too

:/

i still dont understand how getting gear from visions work

havent gotten a piece in forever

[obtuse ice]

what is the website already

[stray sigil]

what website

[obtuse ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282986412624838666/670766979635871754/unknown.png

[stray sigil]

wow pvp leaderboards

i think

[obtuse ice]

Nah

[stray sigil]

pvpleaderboard.com

thats the site

[obtuse ice]

ty

[elder tinsel]

hey did anyone of you have exp with bear in arena?

[timid wave]

anyone on here interested in doing some arenas just for the cap and some rating to meet the essence requirement?

i despise pvp nor am I that good at it, but im 9/15 currency

[obtuse ice]

R3 BotD is reput I cba

[stray sigil]

its not that bad in like half way through revered and its been a aweek

[obtuse ice]

I'm friendly

that's why cba

[forest kite]

how are you feeling with feral this patch?

[obtuse ice]

too early to say smth

[stray sigil]

still trash

[obtuse ice]

trash?

[stray sigil]

ya trash

[obtuse ice]

I don't think I have the same definition of trash than you then

[stray sigil]

monk rogue mage dk lock dh all better than feral

like its def bottomish tier

[obtuse ice]

well it isn't trash for me

at all.

[stray sigil]

i mean youre objectively wrong

but thats fine

[obtuse ice]

you are objectively pessimistic

but that's fine

Trash is something not viable

Feral is defenitly viable

[stray sigil]

can viable and trash

enh is viable

and its trash

ret is viable

and its trash

its not mutually exclusive

[obtuse ice]

I don't think enh is viable

[stray sigil]

it is though lol

plenty of 2.4+ enh

[obtuse ice]

Well

Almost everything is viable then

[stray sigil]

yes so youre point is invalid lol

[obtuse ice]

ok 😂

[stray sigil]

there was like 1 feral that got r1 last season

in na that is

thats why i say enh is trash bro lol

its viable but trash

ferals viable but trash so is boomy

[forest kite]

man destro locks hurting my soul

[rigid linden]

Disgusting bears

[rigid linden]

😦

[obtuse ice]

Condensed still good?

[rigid linden]

yeah

[obtuse ice]

Shit

[clear pulsar]

Nah

You have to do 166k dmg into it for it to be worth it over breath minor

Or flame

Or cns or lucid dreams

The math just doesnt work

Clf is shit

Breath has same proc rate but 30% more damage

So u have to cover that dmg in the 3% extra from debuff for it to be worth

[obtuse ice]

Neck 75 cns lucid botd hmmm

I'll dream abt that

[clear pulsar]

Yep

Basically

I just run bote major cns lucid and breath minors for everything

[obtuse ice]

Do you have mechagon trinket

The wheel

[tiny oar]

Faced a warrior with a 445 of that on he did some crazy burst with it

[clear pulsar]

I dont unforch

[stray sigil]

lucid overrated in pvp imo

random ass dmg from clf better

[faint egret]

Does anyone know a streamer or youtuber that make resto druid pvp vids?

[mild hull]

Anyone have a list of the 4 essences for balance PVP?

Trying to work towards conflict & strife for PVE, but unfortunately i have to arena to get it.

i have rank 1

[jagged seal]

balance ele sham hpal best comp to play for balance druid?

[faint egret]

@mild hull lucid major with fury of elune is good tho. Stellar surge spam

[mild hull]

ty

[small bone]

whats the strat for beating warlock fire healer

[queen copper]

visions major or flame major for boomy?

nice cosntant procs as opposed the the burst from flame..

ok. going flame, vision, CNS and then i guess breath

need rank 2 tho

or lucid for rng proc

[patent dove]

Anybody tried formless void copying focussing iris in 2s?

Kinda keen on trying that with rogue/resto

[tiny oar]

Iris is pretty bad to play in arena and even worse as a copy from formless, if you want damage I would just stick to crucible for both players

Unless ur just trying to like meme one shot someone than go for it I guess

[patent dove]

Disappointment

[tiny oar]

Yea join the club buddy

Maybe next week I wont be in the void ritual only gang anymore

Dinoes out there doing the same damage as a destro lock meanwhile I'm here like.. at least my secondaries are slightly higher sometimes

[clear pulsar]

My corruptions arent crazy like 20% of my damage or huge one shots like twilight devastation

But they add up quite a good amt of damage

And it feels weird

[last trout]

At the moment you just want to stack multiple echoing void?

[prisma monolith]

What stats do we want for PVP as resto druids?

[clear pulsar]

Mastery haste

Versa also good, just avoid crit

[last trout]

@clear pulsar how much healing are you getting from the raid weapon

is it big?

[obtuse ice]

It's decent

[clear pulsar]

It's about the same as raid tank trinket did last season

While also doing around the same as a good dmg trinket

Like shiver venom for casters

7-8% of my damage

It's not just decent

It's definitely good

I will save bonus roll for mythic maut every single week

[last trout]

I see ^^

[obtuse ice]

Better try to get echoing pump void

For now

[clear pulsar]

It does around 80% of the damage of my echoing void which costs the same corruption, while also doing a sporepods worth of healing

[obtuse ice]

But it will change

[clear pulsar]

I have both @obtuse ice

[obtuse ice]

Ggwp

[clear pulsar]

Maut weapon is versa mastery tho, it's the best of both worlds

[last trout]

Ye the raid thingy looked rly strong

for PvP

echoing is for sure better in PvE

[clear pulsar]

It's both a tank trinket's worth fo healing, as well as a blightreaper, on top of 7% of my damage

[obtuse ice]

Each time someone have

Echoing void

It was either first dps but 2 times the second

[clear pulsar]

The issue I have with echoing void is it splits damage, so when you do a go and people are stacked or have pets, it'll do less damage than devour vitality

[obtuse ice]

Either the second

[clear pulsar]

It doesnt only cleave, the damage is split

[last trout]

@clear pulsar can we get devour vitality on random pieces aswell

I hate raiding xD

[clear pulsar]

Yeah but that's tier 3 echoing void, which costs 60 corruption @obtuse ice

There is a cap to how much you'll feasibly wear, you wont go out there with like 60 corruption, you'll get gibbed by your own corruption as often as you'll gib someone

So I'm trying to measure things by corruption cost

So sure, you might have a tier 3 echoing void, but that's gonna limit what other pieces you can wear

[obtuse ice]

It just need time

[clear pulsar]

I don't think devour vitality can proc on other pieces, I recall seeing it mentioned that some effects are unique to the raid weapons, but I dont have a source for it @last trout

I swear, the moment you get gibbed by a thing from beyond hitting you for 150k you'll immediately realize having more than 40 corruption isnt worth it

It can spawn 2 at the exact same time btw

[last trout]

gonna do some heroic pugs for the first bosses xD

[obtuse ice]

Well

All the pieces that matters

[last trout]

when the content is a bit more on farm

[obtuse ice]

Are the 5 first bosses

[last trout]

at least I hate raiding xD

[obtuse ice]

If you have good dps

It's ok

[last trout]

I dont have good dps

and I never cared for having good dps xD

[obtuse ice]

Well

Having a good dps relay on being good in pvp too...

[lime light]

@clear pulsar can i have a full report with details about this disgusting pve weapon in arena

[clear pulsar]

Brother give me 10 mins I gotta buy some bread and cheese

When I'm home I'll scour my details

[obtuse ice]

@lime light from what I know Cassidy said that it is decent

I think it's BiS currently

Cause good Ilvl + versa mast + dmg+heal passive

[lime light]

Ye

I mean stats wise i prefer wm

[clear pulsar]

I'm gonna queue up a bit more

Cuz

I did m+

And there arent any matches on my details atm

[obtuse ice]

Wm?

[lime light]

the dungeon

waycrest manor

[clear pulsar]

I am best feral in the game btw

[obtuse ice]

WTF

Already 1234 ???

[lime light]

cant stop me kids

only dh can

😡

[solemn hare]

what addon are you using for that those W/L and matches history screen?

[clear pulsar]

ReFlex

Is the addon

[solemn hare]

thanks

generally which addons are good to have for pvp?

[clear pulsar]

An arena frame like gladius or sarena

Omnibar also

A good way to keep track of enemy buffs and debuffs, most people use flyplatebuffs

Bigdebuffs also useful

[solemn hare]

thank you so much

[clear pulsar]

Gladiatorlossa is also an addon some people like playing with

I'm personally not a fan

It basically calls things out in audio for you

You can set it up

For pmuch anything enemy is using

It's by default gonna tell you every major cooldown, everytime someone uses any cc, and any particularly important spell like chaos bolt

[solemn hare]

aha that's kinda useful . cause I just started to team up with another person playing 2v2.

[clear pulsar]

I cant stand the auditory noise

[solemn hare]

annoying like that RUN away little girl from DBM? 😄

[clear pulsar]

LOL

Yeah

[obtuse ice]

Pedo

[solemn hare]

[faint egret]

What is the stat priority for druid resto pvp?

Gladiator lossa this season " chaos bolt chaos bolt chaos bolt chaos bolt chaos bolt " Or against shaman " purge purge purge purge purge purge purge lol"

[obtuse ice]

Connected

[west oasis]

[ Mastery >= haste > everything else ] is the norm

if you want to pve heal from far,

mastery >= versa > everything else

[west laurel]

and then i come here and flex with my 6 void rituals

./flex

[obtuse ice]

weird flex but ok

[karmic stag]

what ilvl item

do i get in chest

for having 1400 rating?

460?

kk

[obtuse ice]

Suffre is playing BotE with the mechagon trinket

He actually pumps in 2s lol

Oneshotting druids in bear 100% hp

[crimson terrace]

as a resto druid how do I not suck against a hoj -> trap followup, should I be trying to los the hunter as much as possible or something?

[west oasis]

usually, you try to distance yourself from the paladin

and not let him move up so much against you

[crimson terrace]

[paper valve]

hey rdruids what are you pvp talents that you use these days

[forest kite]

so i got no echoing void on any char

kill me lol i got leech

[rigid linden]

15 done and 2100 on dh

Can't wait for big fuckin loot

[rose chasm]

Does the debuff on the add transfer to nzoth after you kill the add?

for the dmg windows?

people are telling me that, but that feels very off

[clear pulsar]

This is the #pvp channel brother

[rose chasm]

oh shit

sorry

[tawny basin]

what are the stats for resto druid atm?

my reju is not working "properly"

bad healings

[west oasis]

@paper valve it's pretty situational

some ppl are comfortable catweaving in 3s, so they take MS + healing talents (FG, Nourish, OG, etc)

or a more utility/cc build like cyclone/thorns/MS

obv, thorns vs spellcleaves is not useful so you would sub it out for motw or another healing talent

but hte biggest recommends for pvp talents usually is to just experiment and tune accordingly vs the comps you face

[obtuse ice]

I got the 9% versa corruption

Fkn lit

22 versa 56 mast

[tiny oar]

Big lit

[stray sigil]

56 mas

thats so low

[obtuse ice]

56 low

4head

[clear pulsar]

22 versa is pog

[rigid basin]

Hey guys! What are good corruptions for resto druid pvp ?

[rigid basin]

Thanks @vestal citrus

[lime light]

There should be a 3 brackets in arena

Worlocks dh

Corruption

Others

[rigid basin]

Infinite stars is still OP ? Or nerfed to be descent ?

[lime light]

Hard to say, compared to others its pretty shitty for pvp

But better then nothing

And the stacks are magic so they are dispeled most of the time

With other shit

[clear pulsar]

The thing is infinite stars is really expensive

In corruption cost

For the 40k proc

It's like, good

But it isn't the best

[obtuse ice]

56 mast is decent btw

[clear pulsar]

LOL

Fucking 2h later

Did you take that personally bro?

[pearl halo]

Not even 70

[lime light]

Iam 69 m 17v and 71m and 13v and IT doesnt help at all vs fucking assa and destro trash AIDS dogs

No flame ofc

I would q vs dk dh every single time, but pls gtfo with destro assa

[clear pulsar]

Nooooo fuck dks

Fuck dks fuck dks fuck dks

[pearl halo]

Destro is so easy to beat

[clear pulsar]

@lime light you're disgusting dk player I know you are

Destro fine just play incarn vop and rake them every chaos bolt

[pearl halo]

You don't need to fight them

Just run

[clear pulsar]

@obtuse ice this is why I was saying I prefer maut weapon, on top of it healing you a decent amount

Echoing void is more overall damage, but it splits to pets, to other people who just passively outheal it sometimes

While devour vitality is always consistent and pure single target to help you damage your kill target

This was the only long-ish game I had

But it's same deal on shorter games

Devour vitality does 20% less damage but everything is onto my kill target rather than split

[lime light]

@clear pulsar i Play 2dks and 2ferals, yes iam disgusting

But uvare fucking nelf

Op feral

10 stuns

While i can maybe use my regen

Every 60 game

[clear pulsar]

LOL

I know

I was zandalari for season 2

[lime light]

I used IT yestarday vs holy priest destro

[clear pulsar]

But now I have a tauren and a nelf too

[lime light]

Like 60% damp still topped me

Smh

[clear pulsar]

Tauren isnt bad at all

[lime light]

Its bis

But inplayes tauren for so long

CBA this fatass

Played*

[clear pulsar]

Englando hard today?

:D

[lime light]

Yes

Auto correct is so anoying

Cuz this shit is changing english words to polish

Sometimes

[clear pulsar]

Sucks to be polish bro

Sorry

[lime light]

Ye

Cant ride on kangaroo

[tiny oar]

No kangaroo travel form

Sad

[lime light]

Out corrupt them

If u are above or 40

Its not good

But u can try

[versed kelp]

Hello there, is there any post in which I can see what ilvl will weekly chests contain at what rating?

[small storm]

1600 is 460

[obtuse ice]

@clear pulsar Even with those ints Echoing still look better overall

[lime light]

Anyone feels like ferals should have 9 lives in arena ?

[obtuse ice]

With my 22 versa baseline, no 😎

[lime light]

But your disc still kaput

In opener

👍

[obtuse ice]

No cause

Big versa

So big heals

😳

[lime light]

My disc 9% versa and kaput 👍

[obtuse ice]

Bro you are french stop lying

9 versa oof as disc

[lime light]

But once he is done with finals, maybe he can farm some gear

Ye

And i hate this mmr shit at this point, we cant tank somehow

2.2k mmr even if we lose like 3 in a row

[obtuse ice]

Kaput is french expression

[lime light]

Kaput is german

Ded?

No?

Ah maybe u guys got IT after ww2

[obtuse ice]

Really

Pog

2.2 mmr already

[lime light]

I wanna Play at low

So i can farm corruption

And practiee

Cuz rusty af on feral

[clear pulsar]

Just spam wqs

[lime light]

...

[obtuse ice]

What's your rating

[clear pulsar]

My best corruption pieces are blue from wq

415

[lime light]

Iam like 1.4

On both

[obtuse ice]

1.4 2.2 mmr?

[lime light]

Ye

[obtuse ice]

How

Lol

[lime light]

From last ssn's

And its not dropping

Maybe its bugged or something

[obtuse ice]

I was 2.6 mmr last season

[lime light]

Even if we lose 3 in a row

[obtuse ice]

Im 2k now

Lul

[lime light]

Still same

I dont get it

[obtuse ice]

😔

[lime light]

I would insta feed 10 in a row

So i can slowly get there

Cuz games takes 10min

[obtuse ice]

Wut

[lime light]

And i get +96 or -0

[obtuse ice]

Face an echoing void dh

Game gonna be slower

Fatser**

[lime light]

Ye but we face mostly destro x

Lol

Holy priest rdru rsham

Everything with destro

[obtuse ice]

Destro holy

Flat arena any tips x

[lime light]

U cant kill destro, and if u stay in open u lose

Disc Has to dispel holy ward

And u need good go on prieet

Bis would be if u are on fear dr

Or disc playing 2x dispel

U can double clone archangel

But overall super fucking aids

As feral

And free win as dk

And iam addicted to multi bleeding with bt

Overall

But it does nothing

👍

[clear pulsar]

Bro

Start multibleeding with BT

AND LUNAR INSPIRATION

[lime light]

But once i get the op damgur echo corruption

I will be doing 30k dps

With multi bleeding thorns

I will oom any healer in 2 min

The corruption will be a thing on feral, bear form = still doin damgur

Casting Cyclone = still doin damgur

[obtuse ice]

Hm

When I'll be 75

BotD r2 or 3

Gonna be pummmmp

[lime light]

Ye

Its op in damp

[obtuse ice]

400% increase 😳

[lime light]

Crucible botd

Insane bleed damp dam

[obtuse ice]

Tony plays BT in 2s

What a baka

I don't even know if botd major can be a thing

[lime light]

Possible

Seems to be strong

[clear pulsar]

I think it might

At rank 3

[small storm]

what comps have you ferals had success with running in 2s

[lime light]

hpal>disc

dont play with rsham

[clear pulsar]

Protpala feral

[lime light]

rdru is fine, nothing special, if u face melee, getting a bit better, if u face caster

dog

double dps

prolly mini jungle

[clear pulsar]

Feral mage

[silver osprey]

How would guardian/prot pala do in 2s if we both have echoing atm?

[clear pulsar]

It wouldnt

You cant queue more than 1 tank in rated

You disgusting ape

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-walking-gorilla-ape-gif-11409190

[small storm]

lol funny u say that, ive had most success w an rsham

but he was also the best pvper out of the other healers ive been w so far

[blazing pasture]

what is the best partner for guardian druid in 2s?

[lime light]

this comp is soo dog, rsham dont rly offer enough dmg, to help u kill something, and they are mostly good at keeping themself heatlhy with dog form

but possibly with 3x lava burst trait

and electrocute

@blazing pasture i would recommend not playing guardian in arena 🙏🏿 but if u have to, possibly ww or dh

[blazing pasture]

I mainly play rbgs but might dabble in some 2s

[fathom blaze]

If i have the choice between Iron jaw and MI, what do i take ?

[clear pulsar]

Follow your heart

[fathom blaze]

❤️

[lime light]

imo 1x ij is meh

but any amount of MI is pog

[wary isle]

does someone know if karma re-directs thorns damage similar to how spell reflect works?

[lime light]

yes

with a dot, that u can dispel at some point

[wary isle]

guessed it might but wasn't sure... always careful around warriors but guess I have to keep an eye on those monks also then 😉

[clear pulsar]

@obtuse ice just wait until people realize that you can purge echoing void stacks

You'll begin to like maut weapon a lot more

:)

[lime light]

purging something that is up all the time

[clear pulsar]

You can just purge when it starts ticking

One purge all stacks gone

[lime light]

no way it purgs everything

with one purge

[clear pulsar]

:)

[silver osprey]

Oh I never realised you couldn't double tank, damn wanted to abuse

[lime light]

bad boi

[silver osprey]

Well we got to 1400 as feral ret and intend to push to 1800 again, but it's rough so we thought about prot/feral

[royal estuary]

is feral viable this season ?

[last trout]

what do you guys think of feral mistweaver 🙂

[obtuse ice]

Feral viable

Feral mw bad

[last trout]

You think so? I saw tony play alot with MW

[obtuse ice]

When? @last trout

[last trout]

few days ago I dont know the exact date xD

with moadmoad or smth like that

[obtuse ice]

I mean

Remember they are 2000 times better than 95% of the Ladder

So yhea all can feel good when it is in good hands

But I think hpal or dpriest is better

[lime light]

i hate this moment, when we will get better azerites, but with dog traits

so i will stuck with 450

😡

[crimson terrace]

does the avoidance corruption work in arena?

[clear pulsar]

Should

It's fairly useless tho

It'll only affect very few spells that are relevant sources of damage

[lime light]

affect corruption

counter corruption with corruption

[obtuse ice]

I need to do

Mythic +

[lime light]

i did 3xm10 and 1xm15

just finished tol 10 with 4 ruskie

🙂

[obtuse ice]

Jeez

I nzed

465 azerite

[lime light]

go engi head/

[rigid linden]

Logged onto feral

Remembered why I don't log onto feral

:)

[lime light]

do u know if u leech from corruption dmg?

[spice nacelle]

As resto is there any tips/tricks currently to handle a DH/DK combo

I feel like they can just sit on you and train forever

Also multiple stuns/interrupts

[obtuse ice]

How do I farm engi

Guys guys guys$*

On Lock

[lime light]

bt bote?

or 3xmi

[obtuse ice]

3mi

[lime light]

@clear pulsar

[obtuse ice]

Poggers in the chat

[lime light]

😒

[obtuse ice]

is it good

never tested pog

[lime light]

i dont know, seems like it can save a life

@vestal citrus hey bro, do u know what rating do u need for 460 azerite? Some ape is spamming me questions, and i have no idea 😠

[obtuse ice]

SHIT TRINKET

[rustic heron]

@vestal citrus can the weekly chest be higher than 460 this reset? I thought that was the highest for the 1st week, am I completely wrong?

damn man I thought that was the case so I didn't push higher than 1600..

[obtuse ice]

Stuck 1.9

fucking hurts

hmm

won't kill holy destro tbh...

[lime light]

no

free win as dk

[obtuse ice]

I'm losing my sanity

Someone send help

[lime light]

u cute

🐱

[obtuse ice]

ty

[gusty onyx]

I am having a horrible time resto / arms warrior...should I abandon this comp or is there a way to make warlocks stop hurting my feelings?

[west oasis]

@spice nacelle look for any straggling minions/pets from the dk

you can wild charge to those and be very elusive

[obtuse ice]

I fucking

cba

2s

WITH PUGS

[gusty onyx]

Wasn't trying to throw all the blame his way, didn't know if there was some deeper connection to our losses. I don't think his azerite is where is needs to be, stuff like that.

[patent dove]

i occasionally play with an irl friend of mine who plays arms. it took me 150 games to bring him to 2,1

it made me question myself

[gusty onyx]

I'm all for sticking it out and working through the matchups...but many times it feels like there isnt anything else I can do.

[obtuse ice]

My braincells

The few that were existing

Are gone

🤪 🤪

[south heron]

too many rogues at 2k, maybe ill get 2.1 next week

tired of dying in a kidney to echoing void

[obtuse ice]

2 many

Shitq

Rdru

Destro

[south heron]

idk how people lose to destros anymore if they have corruption

the corruption just eats them up

just cc their bolts and line infernal

[obtuse ice]

Yhea so ez

[gusty onyx]

If only it were so.

But I can see where it needs to improve and keep at it, I suppose

[clear pulsar]

Ofc

I think it's similar to guardian

Where it's not about being insanely op

Just very very upsetting to face

When you get chain feared into double root into stun into infernal into coil and you just cant play the game for 20s+

I wish holy had a better niche than greater heal

A slightly stronger personal defensive and they'd be really good healers for rmp

Yeah that's why I've been liking vision incarn

Can rake stun ward off

[obtuse ice]

🤪

[clear pulsar]

I have very good win rate vs splay for some reason

BRO I KNOOOW

Play with people and try to shit like double coil same time as feral frenzy, or silence into stun from spriest, they be like "we just rot them with dots man"

MOTHERFUCKING

[paper valve]

my brand new hate is ww monks

[obtuse ice]

😔

[small storm]

need feral pvp trinket help

430 badge, 460 tormet, 420 insig, 430 tiny electro, 430 dice, 445 ink, 445 phial, 445 coral, cyclo, 440 galecaller

[paper valve]

any advice surviving a bloody ww monk training me as a rdruid

have a feeling i am forced into bear form way too much with them around

and long term i kinda rot

[clear pulsar]

You shouldnt rot cuz ww damage is mostly on cds

And you can match barkskin/ironbark pretty consistently

And frenzied regen

Just take the right moments to go out and refresh heals

Like if he cant fists and rsk you

[paper valve]

will try better

thank you 🙂

[ivory schooner]

Any tips for dealing with unholy dk? I just cannot heal through there damage with the constant healing absorbs.

As a resto

[faint egret]

How does rip with feral affi damage work? Is a 5 combo points damage = 3 combo + 2 combo points?

If i rip then moonfire sunfire then no form, will the damage snapshot the no form?

Or i must stay in cat form to get snapshot damage from the feral affi + master shapeshifter

[stray sigil]

rip dmg is the same regardless of cb

just increases duration

fairly sure snapshotting isnt a thing for feral aff rdruid either

[faint egret]

So rake stun shred then rip is ok. Cause sometimes i got greedy and waiting for 5 cb and ded

What major essence i should use for a defensive strat. Is ever rising T + overgrowth? Or i shud play lucid

[stray sigil]

rake stun rip

only 5 cb on bite and make sure you have 50 energy

im not a rdru player cant help you with that sry

echo nerfed?

i was looking forward to do doing dumb dmg too

unfort

[faint egret]

How long does a combo points stay? Out of combat wise

[tiny oar]

Thank our lord and saviour honestly

[forest kite]

so apparently arms does 10-20% more dmg than anyone else with corruption in PVE

and those are just haste corruption that are not nerfed. gonna be interesting. they stack like 30k+ strength from trait

https://www.wowhead.com/bluetracker?topic=414943&region=us

0 class tuning for pvp

[clear pulsar]

You have to stay in cat form

Does not snapshot @faint egret

Combo points stay forever as long as you are in combat afaik

After you drop combat then cp start to drop too

[obtuse ice]

🤪

[native delta]

@ivory schooner Assuming the DK used a stun to get close to you (not grip), you just have to use travel form and run. After you gain some distance and he grips, you leap and your teammate should have a slow on the dk. Unless he uses his big cd, he shouldn't be able to catchup. You'll eat some big damage but never enough to kill you

i dont think you need mass roots. such a waste not getting stuns

[clear pulsar]

Mass root is quite useful for the pets

You'd be surprised

By the impact it can have if you play around it a bit

Same with typhoon on certain mals

Maps

Well, only blades edge rly for typhoon

[obtuse ice]

Yep and depends what you face

[native delta]

Mmmm interesting. I justt never bothered not using stuns

Will play around with that

[sturdy agate]

anyone get analysis paralysis ?

resto druid

[lime light]

Guardian weapon 👍

[sturdy agate]

;o

just googling a hundred million things related to pvp now..

[last trout]

So void got nerfed by 50% in arena

Now the Maut weapon is BiS for sure 😄

[clear pulsar]

Haha yeah

I expect it to be nerf too at some point tbh

[last trout]

dunno it doesnt do near the dmg in dmg recaps

since it doesnt cleave

and alot less people have it --> didnt see a single complain about it so far

[lime light]

Ppl says its nerfed by 70%

Sh

Smh

But the mind fly corruption rly good too

And did not nerfed

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

That one is busted af

[tiny oar]

It has like 1 hp now dies in 1 moonfire

Still good if you can get it to stay around long enough to do dam tho yea

[last trout]

they nerfed hp of the tentacle thing?

[molten rapids]

Are the nerfs live in EU or only after reset on Wednesday

[dawn totem]

how much would cost for some1 to bring my resto druid from 1550 to 1600? i am tierd of getting to 1595 then losing everything

in 2v2

eu

id rather pay that shit than waste another night

xD

whats best for resto druid at that rating? i saw i play best with fire mage/warlock... idk i am not good with melees

[molten rapids]

Warlock or DK is nice since they usually go on WL or DK can keep them away from you

[dawn totem]

where do I find that top players on my realm btw? is that score posted somewhere?

[last trout]

guys can we cyclone a DH flying up or is he CC immune?

[clear mortar]

if im doing 3s as a boomy , what essences should I be using?

[lime light]

@last trout yes, but at the moment when u have range to clone him, u will be almost ded to fel lances 👍

If CC him right when he press flying u will cancel IT, almost impossible but u can grip / Vortex him before flying

[blazing pasture]

where can I find a list of all the conquest weps from this week?

yea I tried google

😛

[lime light]

Dont think so u can, but one of my druids is close to cap, so i can screen shot u, if i dont forget about it

[gloomy token]

any super basic tips on feral/mw in 2s

assume im braindead

[blazing pasture]

@lime light thanks !

[lime light]

@gloomy token dont incap bleeds 👍

[gloomy token]

thanks

you my man

[lime light]

Hard to say, the big problem with mw feral is, mw dont rly offer any help with doin damgur, they are mostly like afk healers that keeps their mana high all game and let dk dh do the work

[tardy hare]

Bring back legion ssn 7 MW

[gloomy token]

my mistweaver buddy and i have echoing void though

[lime light]

Its nerfed

[gloomy token]

so we've been deathballing

its still busted

[lime light]

If u wanna Play fast games, go for crane goes

With lag sweap on both and big dam with crane and double bite with ff

[obtuse ice]

Yo this bot

Is a nazi

🤪 🤪

[lime light]

[clear pulsar]

@vestal citrus golden days of jungle

[obtuse ice]

/spit @last owl

[lime light]

Being back affi fls

👍

[obtuse ice]

Afflo

Affli lol

Good old day

Idk if I prefer affli or destro

I think they should remove lock

Useless class

[lime light]

Mage rogue warkock all this classes are always good

For pvp pve every season

[obtuse ice]

Cause they have

3 dps spec

I believe it increase chance

#hunter

[clear pulsar]

@lime light I play aff fls

Who gives a shit

It's dog rating

I'm dog player

Why would I pretend it matters if I'm playing meta comp or not

Lunar inpisration + affi + spam purge

[lime light]

I dont know any shamans or worlock players anymore

All good locks and shamans quit

In s1

I played fls in S1

But after they nerfed affi drain life trait, the spec was super dog

[clear pulsar]

You arent a good warlock

You're washed and old

And slow

I've seen you play, you havent landed a bolt bigger than 130k in any of your matches

[lime light]

and from NA

3k na = 1.95eu

[lime light]

Dont be mad UPS is hiring

[blazing pasture]

whats the best spec for someone who is potato at pvp

running guardian in bgs and its fun but not exactly good after the nerfs

mainly for bgs and might do some arenas

[obtuse ice]

Guardian

For the other spec you need 2 brain cells at least

[livid wasp]

feral feels so weak this season

like no damage

cant win even at 1.5k

and I was 2.4k last season

[blazing pasture]

got good coruption shizzle?

[livid wasp]

no

doesnt matter

can someone boost me in 2s

to 1.8k

eu

horde

or even 1.6k

I cant get past 1k rating

like ive had 5 losses at 1.6k cr

in a row

cant get past 1k cr

why is it so difficult now

[royal estuary]

just go resto

of balance

ezzzzzzzzzz rating

[livid wasp]

balance is trash

[blazing pasture]

agreed

resto is deece tho

[livid wasp]

cant fucking do anything

impossible to beat fire mage/rdru as feral/hpal

since ferals dmg is nerfed by 30% or something

or maybe its just my char thats been nerfed

[compact coral]

I mean u can easily get 1.8 with balance in 2s with 0 corruption.

[tropic schooner]

ye blizzard manually changed your char

[blazing pasture]

was in patch notes

[tropic schooner]

can confirm

[blazing pasture]

40% nerf to Zechey

[edgy oxide]

also confirmed

[livid wasp]

well it feels like that

you can check my stream and see

[lime light]

@blazing pasture

[livid wasp]

like literally

my dmg

feels so shit

[lime light]

amazing paint skills btw

[blazing pasture]

sick

thanks dude

[lime light]

btw there are 2 x 2h weapon with int + 1x 1h + offhand with int

and only one feral weapon

👏🏿

[blazing pasture]

good choice for bears and feral

yea lol

[lime light]

nvm 2x1h

not 2x 2h with int

[blazing pasture]

ok I dont feel bad changing to feral then

as I already took thhe wep for bear

[lime light]

this weapon is pretty bad for feral tho

[blazing pasture]

and the others are all trash 😛

well yea

but none of the others are better at least

stack mastery and vers for feral in pvp right?

[lime light]

yeah

15-20% versa, rest mastery

[blazing pasture]

cool

you gem chant for vers until hit that threshold?

[lime light]

no, i gem full mastery

cuz iam greedy

[blazing pasture]

haha

[livid wasp]

maybe it doesnt help my pala got his first 1550 achi with me

[brave orchid]

Anyone using this ?

[livid wasp]

is it still worth going mw against like mw/uh dk

they seem a lot harder to kill now

[void nimbus]

Anyone know what ratings give what rewards in the weekly chest for arena?

[clear pulsar]

1400 - 455
1600 - 460
1800 - 465
2100 - 470
2400 - 475

[void nimbus]

ty ty

[clear pulsar]

Azerite is 475 from duelist up

[obtuse ice]

@livid wasp i play bt against that

[stray sigil]

breach looks like a shit trinket right?

[karmic stag]

echoing void....

nerfed to the ground

literally

a BIG pve nerf

and even bigger pvp nerf

[pliant trout]

Can infinite stars still proc in arena ?

[karmic stag]

both at the same time 😄

[west laurel]

How is it nerfed @karmic stag

[karmic stag]

1.5 2 2.5 percentages become 1 / 1.5 / 2....

aaaaand.....

deals 50% reduced damage in pvp 😄

my 2.5% echo deals 4-6k dps as tank spec

which means as dps

will be 2-2.5k

utter shit

blizz style

make something blatantly op then make it unplayable

why would i waste 60 corruption on something like that

and not take 2 x 700 versa procs for 1400 versa??

now its useless

[obtuse ice]

Bro

DO me a favor

@stray sigil

IF you ge breach

just delete it

[karmic stag]

yes glyph

the tentacles might do more dmg now

or mind flay

or some sort

[clear pulsar]

PURE ROT

Lunar inspiration is the truth my guys

[obtuse ice]

Game time

pls

[clear pulsar]

Duration?

25k dps

vs shadowplay

Oomd the druid

[lime light]

what is this fucking devour pve pig ape vitality?

ah ok

@clear pulsar pve pig

no flame

[livid wasp]

nice

rdru/frost dk/frost dk gonna be fotm I guess

[forest kite]

3x destro lock

[clear pulsar]

I hate this game

[livid wasp]

ive played like 70 arenas today I havent seen a single other feral yet

[forest kite]

Deserved for playin dh

Hard gameplay gets rewarded

[lime light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282986412624838666/671833276708683786/unknown-1.png

??

wtf

[obtuse ice]

Daily reminder that if you play 2s you're a FUCKING DEGENERATED

[tardy hare]

The fuck u hating 2s for

U want to fight?

[lime light]

[obtuse ice]

SMh

content

[tardy hare]

U just mad cause u suck at it!

[obtuse ice]

true

😔

[stray sigil]

@obtuse ice na im keeping it to cheese ilvl and get into groups luk

lul*

[last trout]

Is there a list of important things to dispel on feral/rdruid - like feral: hex etc.

but we cant dispel everything xD

I always get confused

what I can dispel and what not

[stray sigil]

rogue poisons, hex surv poison

[obtuse ice]

When it's green

Dispell

[stray sigil]

green or purple

means u can dispell

[obtuse ice]

Posion from sv

Dispell

Destro shit

Yo

Warden don't even let me write smth

[livid wasp]

sigh depressing game

[rigid linden]

Play dh

Let go of feral

I AM MY SCARS

[obtuse ice]

@rigid linden

Did you get coronavirus yet

[stray sigil]

do ppl actually think dh is fun

tf

[last trout]

playing against dh

isnt fun

so much I can tell 😄

[stray sigil]

not fun to play or to play vs

just like destro

[last trout]

ye I got a destro

Its unplayable

boring

[obtuse ice]

Dh 600 corruption

Oneshotting everything

[clear pulsar]

I agree @stray sigil

Tried to make dh my alt this season and

It just isnt happening

Feels so bland and boring

[last trout]

the design is just...