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lime light
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U never know till Blizzard check win traders ecc

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Games history

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IT takes week or two

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Why ppl says smexxin is next lvl warrior

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All i see is

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Him

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Charging getting disarm

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Trinketing

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Getting storm bolted and dying in opener

obtuse ice
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Cut off

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What's that

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Can we get shit in 2s at the end of season or nah

lime light
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They should add diff title and a little something to 2s

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No

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Its dog

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Something else

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A lot of ppl says its better then 3s this season

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But i queued 2s 5 months ago

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Not rly melee

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Fucking destro holy prieet

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couldyounot ๐Ÿ‘

tiny oar
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That's my favorite comp to fight idk what u mean

lime light
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Its super easy as dk

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I just dark sim greater heals

tiny oar
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I just /afk out of the starting gates feelsgood

lime light
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Cant lose

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But cancer as feral

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Sooooo cancer

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Aids

tiny oar
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Yea full aids

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I love playing surv rdruid

lime light
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Its AIDS also

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But not the same

obtuse ice
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Fotm?

lime light
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@vestal citrus i love your Passion for world of pvp Reddit tho

obtuse ice
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Is it a nice place?

lime light
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Reddit or work?

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Reddit no

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Work no

tiny oar
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Lol

obtuse ice
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Ok

tiny oar
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My main 2s comp for getting 2400 box is sin rdruid so any melee rdruid mirrors are real juicy

obtuse ice
tiny oar
lime light
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couldyounot ๐Ÿ‘

clear pulsar
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I think I cat form too little when I try to play resto

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But voodoo doll is big juicer

lime light
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๐Ÿค™ ๐Ÿ‘ฎ

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Rdru abusers

clear pulsar
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Nah I always drop rating guaranteed

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When I go resto

obtuse ice
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๐Ÿ˜”

tiny oar
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Gotta live life on the edge master cat every game crank in cat until ur a second away from death

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Only way to feel alive

clear pulsar
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Too FUCKEN

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REAL

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@vestal citrus I feel you brother

lime light
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At least u can ride a kangaroo

obtuse ice
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How many ms do you have guys

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Average

odd juniper
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I feel bad now

clear pulsar
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175ms usually

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190ms on servers like tichondrius illidan

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West coast

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Unplayable on oce realm

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Like 400ms if I get put on frostmourne

obtuse ice
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Wtf

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This is unplayable lmao

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Jeez

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Sad life

clear pulsar
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@vestal citrus it's psychological

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Makes no sense br server hosted same place as sargeras

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Physically

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I get same ping

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On both

obtuse ice
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Ohhh

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So maybe if I go french server I'll have less ms?

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Nah

clear pulsar
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Yeah probably just people having shit connections

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And by people I mean the br

obtuse ice
tiny oar
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Yea that shit is so wack I was amazed when I found out that's how arena ping works

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Like 5 aussie lads and 1 US boi in arena the US gets priority like what??

rich crag
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My ping from Asia is always around 200-250 never really lower....

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on us servers anyway

clear pulsar
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We're all high ping bros

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I honestly have 0 respect for people who link achievements they got while under 150ms

rigid basin
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Hey guys. Are the new essences any good for a resto druid in pvp ? Any suggestions ?

rich crag
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I doubt that at this point, anyone really knows for sure. Give it a bit of time once patch hits.

obtuse ice
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??

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How do you even play lol

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I mean

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You pretty got accustomed

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But there is so much diff

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How do you kick Pally ahahah

clear pulsar
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Pre kick sometimes

rigid basin
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@rich crag thanks for response ๐Ÿ™‚

clear pulsar
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Like you kinda know when they stop moving you prekick immediately

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Sometimes

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Or you just play a cross cc comp

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And never have to kick

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Stun into rep into silence into clones into another stun

obtuse ice
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So strong

lime light
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U fguys are like this foking russians

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On eu

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Teleporting around

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Go Play Tetris...

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๐Ÿ˜ก

obtuse ice
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True

tardy hare
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Lmaoo just don't kick at all and they fake themselves to death

obtuse ice
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Game sense

lime light
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Lol

obtuse ice
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Sounds terribly haughty

obtuse ice
unique cairn
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best pvp trinket for balance?

clear pulsar
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Maledict

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Badge

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Safeguard

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Emblem

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Subroutine Defragmentation

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Voodoo doll

obtuse ice
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Shiver?

clear pulsar
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That too

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Actually pumps

lime light
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orca

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still crits

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for 28k

obtuse ice
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That's a whale bro

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What no it isn't

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But give has whale in tag

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๐Ÿคช

lime light
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๐Ÿ˜’

obtuse ice
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๐Ÿ˜”

tardy hare
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Orca is also known as Killer whale

obtuse ice
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There is no killer in the gif

tardy hare
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what if the trainer broke her neck?

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murder attempt for sure

west oasis
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@clear pulsar coaching for gold

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:^)

lime light
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10k / hr

west oasis
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Per match Kappa

tardy hare
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Its been almost 1 year since last youtube upload

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:(

lime light
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@tardy hare

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used to be u

west oasis
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Big Peter the deletr

obtuse ice
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thx

tardy hare
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bigpeter prety flex dude

karmic stag
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recent Ion Hazzikostats interview quote

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"First of all, just to get it out of the way, we currently donโ€™t have any 8.3.5 plans โ€” there may be some small systems tweaks or updates for stability between now and Shadowlands, but Visions of Nโ€™Zoth is really the concluding chapter of Battle for Azeroth, and weโ€™re excited to focus our attention on Shadowlands and the upcoming beta for Shadowlands thatโ€™ll be opening up over the course of the year."

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in regards to whether we are going to see guardian nerfs my position is with 90% certainty - NO

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lets just.... enjoy bears I say ๐Ÿ˜„

lime light
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???

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wtf?

karmic stag
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what do you mean?

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Didn't you already expect that?

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what we get tomorrow is what we will have for the next 10 months or so before Shadowlands

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they will no longer have BFA as priority thats LAST BFA patch

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that was kinda expected

lime light
obtuse ice
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@lime light Explain I'm stupid

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๐Ÿคช

lime light
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obtuse ice
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It's sorted by winrate?

karmic stag
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NO 8.3.5 confirmed

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glad to know at least not to expect anything

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๐Ÿ™‚

neon storm
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Bow down to your Guardian Overlords. Sadly this is probably the Kiss of Death for Bears in Shadowlands.

karmic stag
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what do you mean by kiss of death?

neon storm
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Guardians being the alpha they are for 8.2 and 8.3 there is no way Blizz will let them remain how they are and will nerf them into the ground for 9.0 just like every other expansion when our health pools begin to climb and we become raid bosses.

karmic stag
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i've played in Burning Crusade, wotlk, Legion , and now BFA

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there has NEVER been an expansion i played where people have not complained massively about bears

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whenever you have a class with high passive mitigation there are complains cuz rest classes feel like butter

lime light
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there wasnt a bear in bc wotlk

karmic stag
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?

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bears were reaching armor cap

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passively

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at that time what do you mean?

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85% permament phys reduction

lime light
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that was a feral spec

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not guardian

karmic stag
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...

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๐Ÿ˜„

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ye

neon storm
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People complain. That is what they do. But the screams get the loudest always towards the end of an expansion when the gear just puts us on a different tier.

karmic stag
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there is such and easy solution

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just make tanks tanky as heck in world pvp

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BUT ban them

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from queuing rated pvp

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thats it...

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why dont they do that

neon storm
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Because I pay the same amount as everyone else and I would like to participate in the entire game with the same spec that I spend 99% of my time in.

karmic stag
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ok thats great

neon storm
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Imagine playing Super Mario Bros but can't play every 3rd castle

karmic stag
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then nerf tank damage and killing potential by 50% in pvp

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so they hit like paper but buff their survival

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why do healers have survival potential

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and 0 killing potential?

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that should apply to tanks

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but no ... prot pally tank hits harder than some dps specs

neon storm
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Disc Priests were solo killing DPS with their damage. Resto Druids with Feral Affinity. There is a track record of them not thinking classes through.

karmic stag
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they dont know what to do with tank specs in particular in pvp

neon storm
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Tanks should have ok damage input and output but be more utility based like PoTP, Debuffs, CC.

karmic stag
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yeah

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but their "ok" damage should be low enough so that literally every class who does a bit of self healing should outheal their dmg

neon storm
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Prot Warrior is dang near close to that.

karmic stag
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out of all tank specs

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is guardian the only viable one?

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and that's in 3s only as far as i know

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not in 2s

neon storm
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DH's can be found in RBG's for FCing and there are still some Prot Paladins and Warriors sprinkled into Arena but those are mostly played by people that know the the class and want play it in that setting.

karmic stag
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thats good to hear

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and brewmaster is beyond belief awful

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i guess

neon storm
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Blood DK's have been replaced with Unholy DK's. Brewmaster's just can't seem to find a niche

karmic stag
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right

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in terms of survival

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is there a difference between frost dk and unholy

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both have same hp (which is quite high for dps class)

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both have death strike

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and difference at all?

neon storm
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Unholy just seem to be a little more tankier with control and can put out dps a little harder. Some people have been making Frost work lately but they are glass canons.

karmic stag
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ye

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but still there are very few bears out there playing higher than 2k

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i doubt they will ever become a serious thing

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sure there might be even less represented classes but bears in general are one of the least played tank class in PVE and that definitely reflects into pvp

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people just seem to find to boring to death

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i mean its utterly boring even for the player and unfun

neon storm
karmic stag
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thats close to nothing isnt it

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considering resto are 524

neon storm
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Well there are 62/5000 in US 3v3

karmic stag
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its really not much ye

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in EU there are less

neon storm
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People don't like fighting bears because it breaks up their strategy/playstyle. You can't blow up a bear in a cheapshot /smokebomb/gpyro. People don't like to change what works for them on 90% of their matches.

karmic stag
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yes

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but honestly i am almost sure people also dont enjoy playing bears compared to other classes that much simply because they feel utterly boring and primitive to play

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yesterday i was doing 2s with frost DK with my bear

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EVERY single game went the following way: People see any class + bear= FULL nuke on the dps and total ignore on me knowing its useless to focus me resulting in me being more of a healer to the DK and using cc and then if he survives first 1 min we win if he dies we lose

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its just stupid

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the skill cap and gratification is close to 0

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going from bear to cat feels so difficulty to me cuz skill cap for feral is times higher it seems

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and i am not used to that

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but feels rewarding

clear pulsar
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Comparing disc priest to guardian is just so unbelievable ignorant

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Disc can burst so its ok for guardian to be top damage and top healing done every game by pressing moonfire thrash mangle and frenzied regen

spiral zephyr
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If you aren't regrowthing/swiftmending/wild growthing in 2s you are doing it wrong

clear pulsar
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If you're playing bear in arena you're doing life wrong

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It's like a DH with even less depth and engagement

obtuse ice
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multi classing is nice for knowlegde

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but yo you really neeed to tunnel a spec someday

quartz swallow
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Any speculation on how feral vs. balance will be in low CR games next patch. Or is this a "play whatever feels best" scenario. Making sure I pick the right spec for the main.

obtuse ice
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Feral

clear pulsar
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Broooo thats toxic boomie is fine for just having fun and learning the game and farming conflict and strife

quartz swallow
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Interesting suggestions. I thought ya'll would suggest Boomkin!

jagged ibex
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pvp kitties, is there a macro.. kind of like the rogues spam sap macro ? to find stealthed people? something that'll rake them out of stealth or w.e any help would be appreciated. Just curious

forest kite
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1 day until Vulpy Vulpy army ๐Ÿ˜ป

edgy oxide
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yikes

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yeah no druids iirc

neon storm
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@clear pulsar reread my comment as well of the context of the conversation before you call someone ignorant.

spiral zephyr
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I just play Guardian in arena because I'm bad at pvp but want to be 1800 for chance of loot + AP. Been playing Guardian in arena since 8.0. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I can't imagine people rerolling guardian to do arena lol

clear pulsar
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You said bear is problemagic cuz u cant blow it up with gpy haha the one spell that does dmg scaling with enemy's max hp so basically the one counter to guardian

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Fucking guardian players trying to justify their dirt

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Disgusting

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Enjoy your free glad man

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But guardian is gross

shut crescent
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Zandalari racial for resto pvp? monkaHmm

clear pulsar
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Pretty niche

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Very rarely it will be useful

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Tauren generally better

small bone
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New to pvp, how do i stop getting trained as a boomkin.. i feel like i cant reduce pressure

odd juniper
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20%+ versa solves the problem a bit

stray sigil
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youll still take it in the ass

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get used to it

lime light
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So 2 ferals r1 in na?

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Fuse was like 3070 2 days ago, but he dropped almost 100 rating ?

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Prolly jungle with dilly

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Fuse and idiotferal

obtuse ice
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Idiotferal y

lime light
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Or fuse might not get it lol?

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Na is full of ally

obtuse ice
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He will get it

lime light
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No one plays horde smh

obtuse ice
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Pikabooo

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Only horde top 50

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Almost

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Lmao

tardy hare
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Easy r1 throw

rigid linden
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^

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im angry @ him

obtuse ice
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Tru

lime light
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Fuse was 3070

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Lol

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Poor him

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So only one feral in na

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And prolly only cassidy on eu

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Or maybe germans win trade

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As usual

rigid linden
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and one DH god

lime light
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Double D

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Disgusting class

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Disgusting male nelf

tiny oar
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jesus

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doesnt get more disgusting than that

lime light
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3009 seems not enough

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@vestal citrus vulpera worlock?

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๐Ÿ˜ฑ

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๐Ÿ˜’

obtuse ice
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๐Ÿ˜’

clear pulsar
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Is cutoff same for both regions?

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Or website bugged?

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On wow official website it shows same for me

lime light
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Pls remember 2k eu=3.03kNa

clear pulsar
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Looks like cassidy's got at least one safe toon

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Corkiy safeish too

obtuse ice
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Dang

clear pulsar
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Tony not so much, suffre and sumec probably not gomna get rank 1

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Arenamate looks like it's not parsing eu leaderboards well

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So not very reliable atm

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Sooo many rogues and mages

lime light
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@clear pulsar they are germans, so they might randomly get 100rating

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Before season end

clear pulsar
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Lol

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Supatease and thug bear rank 1

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Only zev as feral

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No boomie on NA

lime light
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Mies 5x rank 1

clear pulsar
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Mies didnt get 5 rank 1 this season

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Haha

lime light
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PogChamp ๐Ÿ‘

clear pulsar
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Fuse just outside of range

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Syfox a bit lower

lime light
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He fucked up

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He was 3070

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Yestarday

clear pulsar
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Quite a bit actually

lime light
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๐Ÿ‘€

clear pulsar
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16 more hours for EU right?

lime light
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Iam not sure

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Is IT with daily reset?

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So that might be 19

clear pulsar
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On NA maintenance starts 2h before usual reset time

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I assume same for EU

lime light
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so 17hrs

obtuse ice
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Oof

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I wanna play tonight

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Buut I don't get something

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Is top 3000 EU in 2s good or nah?

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I don't even have the idea of how many players a doing pvp

lime light
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18 ppl are 3k+ on 2s

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in eu

tropic schooner
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top 3000 not 3k rating

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well do YOU think its good?

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no one else can tell you whats an achievement for you

lime light
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ah

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my bad

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its not good

tropic schooner
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for example for me personally hitting gold in overwatch was a good feeling, im shit at fps so I was quite happy about it, now hitting gold in league would be terrible for me because I think of myself(and I am) way better than that even being mid diamond atm feels fairly bad so I wanna get better to get higher

clear pulsar
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Oof

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Feelings

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Never feel good until you're #1

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And playing league

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Bigger oof

tropic schooner
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I did get rank 1

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so

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felt good

tiny oar
clear pulsar
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Buy yeah actually @tropic schooner thats really healthy way to look at it

lime light
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dumb shaman player

tardy hare
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Best way to improve in a game is think of urslf as a piece of trash

obtuse ice
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Oki

tiny oar
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I am ugly and I am proud

patent dove
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Thatโ€˜s the worst way to put the right thing in words

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Btw. Whatโ€˜s this meme that Germans win trade? Was there like a german win trading mafia or something?

tardy hare
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No it's because Poland shouldve been able to defend themselves but instead lost in an instant

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jk

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russians are wintraders

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idk about germans

clear pulsar
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Machtig is a smart head with a dumb tongue

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Or fingers

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Knows the right thing but always says it wrong

tardy hare
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That is correct

lime light
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"Totals:
25 mages
19 Paladins (all holy)
19 rogues
10 destros
9 Druids (8 rdruids, 1 feral)
8 Monks (7 wws, 1 mw)
6 Shamans (all resto)
7 priests (2 shadow, 5 disc)
6 DKs
4 warriors
3 DHs"

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i guess buffs dh's

obtuse ice
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DH not op in 3s

lime light
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yes, needa a little buff

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ofc

clear pulsar
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LOL

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Yeah just give dh mortal strike

obtuse ice
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I'd say

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Nerf rogue mage pala destro ;)

clear pulsar
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Nerf dk too and revert ww buff

lime light
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i think 4 dk's were frost

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2 unh

onyx panther
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In 2s, if given a choice of feral/x, any suggestions for X. I am running 2s with a friend that plays feral this season. Casual play pushing 1800ish. I have every class and spec at 120 and each class decently geared with my druid as the most geared but with the new patch I can push gear on whichever partner works best.

clear pulsar
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Hpal or rdru

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Next season mw too probably gonna be everywhere

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Or hunter if you prefer double dps

wise valley
surreal heron
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k

tall raptor
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Hi, what's the best team comp for guardian druids in 2v2? Any idea?

livid wasp
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go away

clear pulsar
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Rsham or dh

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@tall raptor

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Or dk

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Is the only things people play

tall raptor
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thanks

clear pulsar
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Also stop playing guardian

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Fucking disgusting

tall raptor
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Thanks actually why I want to play one. Seems like ppl really hate it.

clear pulsar
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Yeah but more than anything it's the most boring spec I've ever seen

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To play, play with, and play against

rich crag
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I set up a bear spec for pve but it seems so yawn to play agreed lol

livid wasp
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I never understood whats so satisfying about pissing people off

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is it your way to take out your shit life on others

high spade
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Yes

stray sigil
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ngl seeing angry sweaty nerds rage about guard makee me wanna q guard

west laurel
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same lmfao

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i feel like the best part of playing guardian is getting the whispers

clear pulsar
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Says the naruto profile pic

livid wasp
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hahahahaha

clear pulsar
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Fucking hell brothers

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Feral is the TRUTH

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Dont stray from the path

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True

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But I cba playing 12 min game into 12 min game

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Win both and feel like you lost a piece of your soul alt f4 game and shut off pc

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Cuz enemy was afk and just didnt die

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Like an actual raid boss

west laurel
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i mean i do agree with the fact that guardian is a silly thing in arena

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but TBH ill abuse a little here and there

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cuz my patience with boomy isnt that high

onyx panther
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There was a short time where you could queue 3 guardian druids at the beginning of Legion. yeah, it got hotfixed but it was funny as hell.

tall raptor
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@livid wasp It's just funny to watch ppl /spit on you etc. The thing I like about the Gdruid is the fact that I could carry flags in RBGs + def bases. It's quite a nice support for all teammates around while fighting for BS, WW, mid in EoS etc.

arctic shale
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I always find it funny how the community wants more diversity in arenas. But the second things change, community cries? It's okay for mages and rogues to be god tier x amount of time. Or dks etc. But God fucking forbid guardian druids become viable/meta.

clear pulsar
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It's not change

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Yes fuck guardian

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It makes games unnecessarily long just by existing

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It lacks depth and interesting design/utility

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People complain about mages being op, rogue mage always top of the meta. All the fucking time.

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ALL THE TIME

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You're just tripping

obtuse ice
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Cause at least you can outplay Rogue mage if you are really good

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you can't outplay guardian

clear pulsar
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If you think people only have an issue with guardian cuz it's "new" and if you think it's fine in its current state, you're big delusional and just clueless

obtuse ice
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it's just tank

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in pvp

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Just like facing a cho gath 50000 hp

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or a Rammus as an adc

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0 fun 0 counter play

stray sigil
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theres worse things than guardian

forest kite
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its dumb that arena still gives 1 item every 100 matches or more

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guess the real problems only get fixed next xpac

livid wasp
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is it true you shouldnt play clone against double melee as jungle

clear pulsar
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Depends

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Baiting out kicks for your healer is really helpful

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But taking just pure damage might win you games you wouldnt have

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With thorns wound and lotp

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With a dmg essence

obtuse ice
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and most important

clear pulsar
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I know tony picks something else over cyclone pretty often

obtuse ice
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Dmg trinket

livid wasp
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my disc insists that I shouldnt, I feel so poor without it tho

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like against feral/sv/hpal we lost against

clear pulsar
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I know it feels naked af

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U just go to press the button and it doesnt do anything

livid wasp
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yeah

karmic stag
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as someone metioned before

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thats a druid discord

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8.3 is last patch of the expansion confirmed

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we can all agree that guardian nerf is more than likely NOT happening

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why not be happy

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and just have fun with it and kick some butt with it ๐Ÿ˜„

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i even suggest making a premade BG

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and lets get 10 guardian dudus in a BG

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and have some fun

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๐Ÿ˜„

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so what?

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i dont expect bear nerfs really

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can we make pre-made bg with 10 bears?

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for real

lime light
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Hi team

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hope u guys happy

tardy hare
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sure

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u too

lime light
#

โค๏ธ

forest kite
#

there is no 8.3.5

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and next xpac is like november people say

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1 big season looks like it

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There is the pre launch patch maybe they will make that last long?

livid wasp
#

hahahahahahaha

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so now they nerf the trinkets

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how long did i take them

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half a year?

karmic stag
#

any guardian druid who can come to PTR and let me test smth vs my DH tank

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in arena wargame

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?

clear pulsar
#

Urchin was already nerfed first month of nazjatar @livid wasp

karmic stag
#

yes it was working 50%

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now 30%

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the only proper self healing trink now remains to be hard mode red card from mechagon

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subroutine defragmentation

livid wasp
#

could this change make them obsolete tho?

karmic stag
#

well

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sporepods 470 heals for 70k

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30% of 70k is 21k

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it definitely is a big time nerf

clear pulsar
#

Yeah but hardmode card will be obsolete due to ilvl

karmic stag
#

um well card will be 430

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you can easily get 470 yellow card

clear pulsar
#

???

karmic stag
#

and inflate the red card level

clear pulsar
#

Why will it be 430?

karmic stag
#

all mechagon items go 430

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in 8.3

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ALL

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default ilvl

clear pulsar
#

Even hard mode?

karmic stag
#

yes

clear pulsar
#

Yes dungeons go up 30 ilvl

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Fucking hell

karmic stag
#

i dont see any reason whatsoever

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if default ilvl goes 430

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for hard mode to stay 415 ๐Ÿ˜„

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i am 99% sure it is 430

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and when you slap a yellow card 460+

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it will heal for quite a lot

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its really cool cuz subroutien defrag has like insanely high drop rate

molten rapids
#

Wouldn't that also be old content and thus able to Titanforge

karmic stag
#

no clue about TF

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i am really happy with that change

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it sucks seeing classes abusing those trinkets

#

its awful

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getting the mechagon one they sacrifice a lot

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of main stat

#

the card is just insane for bears cuz mastery increases healing from it

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and its healing scales based on missing hp

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having in mind bears have a ton of health the window of low hp will be much bigger than other dps classes meaning they can take more advantage of the 200% heal

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on my bear i will be using defragmentation card + PVP trinket emblem that is max hp increase for 20 sec

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i will also try get echo of the void corruption affix that deals % dmg based on max hp and be true cancer ๐Ÿ˜„

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and the weapon An zig vra that also deals 2% hp and heals for as much on 25% on auto attack chance

stray sigil
#

new essence looks kinda insane

wise valley
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none of you even play feral ret

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go to bed

obtuse ice
#

Go to bed KIDS

surreal heron
#

no u

unique lion
#

Hello everybody. I'm new here and really don't know much about druids. So atm I'm still leveling but when I hit level 120 me and my friend ele shaman we want to do 2v2 arenas. So my question is wich spec of is best suited with ele shaman in arenas ?

obtuse ice
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Resto druids

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Cause mostly healer/dps is recommended

unique lion
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But with comming nerf for resto is it still worth it ?

west laurel
#

Yes

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Feral Ele and boomy Ele wouldnt really work unless both of you have pvp experience

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Just learn to play resto and pretty much most of the dps players Will want you if you have the gear

forest kite
#

what is infinite stars and where does it come from

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from like assaults and stuff?

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ty

lime light
#

Tank trinkets nerfs

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Prepare for the end bois

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Or make your owb

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Rogue mage hpal

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Domination

tiny oar
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Thank god

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Rmx 3 seasons STRAIGHT BABY

lime light
#

Prolly the raid trinkets still op

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But underrot

karmic stag
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raid trinkets suck

lime light
#

Nerfed by 70% couldyounot ๐Ÿ‘

karmic stag
#

i tested them on PTR

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in pvp

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they are as bad

tiny oar
#

Can't wait to be a vulpera MONK

lime light
#

Axtin getting clapped in 2s

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๐Ÿ˜ค

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@tiny oar disgusting pig

karmic stag
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could trinket change be a sign that they are looking at pvp after all

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and we might get bear nerf soon?

lime light
#

No

tiny oar
#

Gotta do cloak and ap farm on 2 characters but after that o its straight fox time

lime light
#

Do u have any list what to do?

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Or what i should do

tiny oar
#

Yea they're only an entire season behind I'm sure they'll get to it soon feralsbadman

karmic stag
#

if there are indeed 2 seasons left

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are pvp changes likely after the 4th one?

tiny oar
#

Tldr is basically max upgrade cloak this week do all the assaults and dailies farm ap wqs/ emissaries/ islands n do a 19 for a 15 key to do next week @lime light

calm stream
#

Hey guys, how do you think feral or boomy will do in arena/ pvp with nerfs?

lime light
#

Ok thx

obtuse ice
#

Feral pp

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Op

rich crag
#

There's a ton of little buffs and zone things that people can get to really do a boatload of damage passively to you in uldum and vale so be wary of it if check the logs to see what it is if you get confused as to why you got blown up lol

lime light
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Remove brs

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Make bt meta

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Plx

obtuse ice
#

No

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Remove feral bleeds

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Add wings

lime light
#

Ppls says the corruption

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Infinite stars

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Super super broken in pvp

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Even blood dk

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Is one shoting

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couldyounot ๐Ÿ‘

karmic stag
#

ye

#

echoing void broken too

#

we all expect nerfs like 40-50%

#

its broken for tanks

#

they forgot tanks have x2 hp or more

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๐Ÿ˜„

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and slapped scaling based on max hp

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go see vengeance DH with metamorphosis having 1.1 million hp

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and those effects scaling based on its max hp

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and the result

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30k ticks of dmg every second , 55k crits

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gl

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i mean its like default-guardian druid strong ๐Ÿ˜„

livid wasp
#

Not funny ๐Ÿ˜ฃ

karmic stag
#

it really isnt btw

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i went to the dummy

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cuz i got echo of the void rank 3 on PTR

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went to dummy

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it did 65% of my DPS

obtuse ice
#

Pog

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PogChamp ๐Ÿ‘

lime light
#

they said

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the stars

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should be nerfed by at least 90%

#

LOL

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dwn the patch

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we will see

livid wasp
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Haha

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If its fine for pve it wont be touched

forest kite
#

who is excited for this season?

lime light
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not me, just normal shit with nerfing old pve trinkets

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adding new

#

same classes are strong

forest kite
#

they did not nerf mechagon trinket?

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healing one

karmic stag
#

nope they didnt

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it doesnt need a nerf anyway

forest kite
#

why not?

karmic stag
#

cuz it heals for 1k per sec and thats laughable

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and when you get its full benefit

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your hp is so low that ... you shouldnt go that low 1st of all

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only good for bears

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cuz they have ton of health and have much bigger window of sitting on low hp

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bear mastery also increases its healing

lime light
#

i had 435 titanforge card

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and it was doin around 2x less healing

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then 430 ilvl spore

karmic stag
#

yy

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it needs no nerf

#

but it does more than spore

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when you are on low hp

livid wasp
#

can you get corruption gear without doing the quests first?

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dunno if I should open the chests

karmic stag
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you cant

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do the quests

livid wasp
#

okay

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I thought theyd fix cat form attack sounds to how they used to be

#

but theyre still trash ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

karmic stag
#

ye

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well this is it

#

no class changes expected by me till 9.0

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like none at all

rigid linden
#

DH god Formrage.

lime light
#

can someone explain to me

#

whats goin on with this trash game

#

iam casually killing some rare

#

and some 800k blood dk

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just one deaged me

livid wasp
#

lol

#

can you

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post combat log

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or is it too late

rich crag
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@lime light There's some stuff people can get that does a boatload of damage zone buffs, etc need to check the logs

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is conquest and stuff going to be reset next week ? so kind of a waste to get it at this point since the ilevel is still 8.2.5 ?

lime light
#

idk

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there was nothing in combat log

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deathstrike for 20k

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but he one deag me

rich crag
#

I had the same issue with a DK also... there is some items that might not show up? i am not sure but can safely say that the DK wasn't even nar me and I just got blown up

supple path
#

its the broken corruption gear

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infinite stars or something

livid wasp
#

why are feral attack sounds so fucked

#

feels like my combo point generators dont make any sounds

clear pulsar
#

They increase in volume with your cps

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If you have 0 cp shred makes low sound

#

If you have 4cp shred makes big sound

#

It's actually fucking stupid

livid wasp
#

blizzaaaard come on

#

a unique idle animation for feral wouldve been cool

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different from all other cat models

clear pulsar
#

@vestal citrus I think corkiy got rank 1 as boomie

#

3031 as horde

obtuse ice
#

pog

livid wasp
#

so the bis essence is uldum rep one?

clear pulsar
#

I dont think that'll be bis for pvp

#

I think crucible will remain better

livid wasp
#

I truly hope that will be the case

#

ive tried to find a rare for like 15 mins in uldum with no results

#

and you need to kill 4

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oh and I found one and killed it but didnt get progress

lime light
#

@clear pulsar how to get crucible rank4

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cant c the quest

#

iam 70 lvl neck now

clear pulsar
#

Probably have to finish all the new patch shit

#

I'm not sure I don't remember

#

It should be a quest in the chamber

#

A bolt from the blue it's called

lime light
#

maybe its bugged rn

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oki

#

wp

livid wasp
#

the rank 3 token sounds so good tho

#

45k dmg and if target has less than 20% or more tan 80% hp the cd is 15 sec

#

no dispel stuff like with flame

clear pulsar
#

Yeah but if enemy is consistently above 80% then you aren't doing a great job

livid wasp
#

minor power sounds good too

clear pulsar
#

The minor does sound rly good

livid wasp
#

but exalted for that..

#

probably gonna pass..

clear pulsar
#

Crucible is 19 > 38 > 57 k damage every 90s, + the following dot for 75% of it, 200k total
Breath is 50k per cast, so every 45s, sometimes you get an extra cast, but you'd need 4 casts in 90s to outdamage crucible

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True that it is purgeable so thats a downside for crucible

#

But I think breath minor is the play

#

Not major

livid wasp
#

maybe

west laurel
#

i just got coruption that gives my pants a chanse to summon a tentacle doing 30k crits per tick every like 1 sec

livid wasp
#

I wish I wasnt stuck to this game, best thing to do would be to take a break for a couple of weeks and see what kind of a shitfest arena is and then decide whether to play

#

the stories ive heard about corruptions are scary

clear pulsar
#

@livid wasp yeah but there will be very big nerfs to certain effects for sure

#

Some of them are just ludicrous

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Even in pve

livid wasp
#

I always thought like that but ive seen how they handle pvp in bfa

clear pulsar
#

I agree that coming back later on in the season would be ideal but then they put in even more daily shit to complete and if u dont you're just too far behind

livid wasp
#

pretty sceptical

clear pulsar
#

Mhm

#

Luckily I found a guild I like

#

So I can just pve if arena is shit

livid wasp
#

I mythic raided for a couple of seasons

#

it can be fun I guess

#

but really tiring to get home from a long day at work and then wipe on a boss for 3-4 hours

clear pulsar
#

Yeah see this guild is only 4h per week total

#

So it's quite alright

lime light
#

@clear pulsar any egirls in guild?

clear pulsar
#

Everybody old @lime light

lime light
#

boomer

#

kidna

#

but ok

#

still love u both

clear pulsar
#

I'm kid

#

They old

lime light
#

send help

#

necro bugged, says only 4% today

#

hope they fix tomorrow

obtuse ice
#

Ticket them

#

Cloak BiS I belive?

clear pulsar
#

Just talent into bursting sores @lime light

lime light
#

did not test yet

#

but prolly not worth

#

only vs hpal

west laurel
#

does coruption work?

#

in arenas

#

cuz if coruption works in arenas my pants will be doing 30% of my dmg as a hunter lmao

clear pulsar
#

Yeah

#

So will echoing void

#

And I think gushing wound too

forest kite
#

how is WW?

#

is rising sun hitting 100k yet?

unkempt wind
#

ww is pretty nuts rn

#

I got clapped by dorito last night 4 games in a row but he had a really op corruption on his belt, was his top dmg every game. Idk how it woulda been if he didn't have it

livid wasp
#

@blizzard unbearable

stray sigil
#

we said that about guard and tank trinkets LUL

obtuse ice
#

Have you killed

#

thrall or allera already

livid wasp
#

nice that blizz has PTR, so they test those things and they dont get through and break the actual game

obtuse ice
#

h-how

#

Idk how you kill thrall tbh

#

you need to do all the objective quest?

lime light
#

mine is rank 4

#

too on feral

#

is that max?

obtuse ice
#

Idk how you've done

#

lol

clear pulsar
#

Wtf

#

Just read wowhead

#

You kill the 2 guards in the entrance of the main thing in org

#

Kill thrall inside

#

For the first one

#

You dont have any resistance to be able to do the sidezones

lime light
#

yes

obtuse ice
#

yea

#

but for R3

clear pulsar
#

R3 what?

obtuse ice
#

Claok

clear pulsar
#

I think for cloak upgrades you just need to kill thrall!?

#

I'm not sure

obtuse ice
#

yhea

clear pulsar
obtuse ice
#

Acutally

#

you had to kill guard

#

but it takes time

#

for the gate to open

#

and I just left

#

Cause it wasn't opening

clear pulsar
#

What a fucking

#

How do you find your way out of your house everyday?

obtuse ice
#

I swear

#

I killed the guard

#

and nothing opened

#

I just went too fast

livid wasp
#

is it hard?

#

ive heard its challenging

obtuse ice
#

Who cares about cloak

#

eh

livid wasp
#

okay

obtuse ice
#

k gnna kill myself now

#

by

#

ee

livid wasp
#

bye

rich crag
#

it's easy to just kill thrall

#

just go watch a video if not sure

livid wasp
#

what does horde do?

obtuse ice
#

alleria

#

but now it's too late for me

#

I wasted 2 vision without killing thrall

livid wasp
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

lime light
#

no

#

horde is killing thrall

#

ASPES

obtuse ice
#

then I'm horde

lime light
#

u cute anyway

#

๐Ÿ˜ณ

obtuse ice
#

Cloak rank2 isn't cute at all..

lime light
#

@vestal citrus are assualts

#

daily?

#

or u can do like few of them per day

#

pls be daily pls

obtuse ice
#

pls end my life pls

#

I'll just be

#

2 below everyone

#

cool

#

oof

#

I'm just a failure but it'sok

clear pulsar
#

You wont be behind

#

Yeah that is incredibly stupid to do 2 visions without killing thrall which takes all of 40 seconds

#

But

#

There is a cap to cloak level

#

So if you do all the other stuff this week and the next

#

You can be up to speed

#

With everyone else

#

I think

obtuse ice
#

Even incredibly stupid isn't enough stupidity to illustrate how stupid it is

lime light
#

@vestal citrus so the assault is weekly?

clear pulsar
#

There are 2 I think

#

One weekly

#

One twice a week

#

Before and after friday

lime light
#

and there is that vision in panda land

#

that is daily?

clear pulsar
#

Yeah I think so

lime light
#

Zone Assaults

Two assault types alternate between Vale and Uldum each week
Black Empire Assault (weekly)
Resets Tues 10am
Raid entrance is in this zone
Vessel of Horrific Visions (10k currency equivalent)
Chance at Corrupted item (440)
Secondary Assaults (twice weekly)
Resets Tues 10am and Fri 10pm
5.5k Coalescing Visions
Multiple chests, rares, events, quests, etc. per assault
Try to clear these for each assault for max rep and currency
Addons should be out soon that make these easier to keep track of (Tomcat)

#

u are right

#

but proffesions starts next week?

obtuse ice
#

๐Ÿ˜ฌ

clear pulsar
#

@obtuse ice I just wasted 2 essences

#

I mean 2 visions

#

If that makes you feel any better to have someone as stupid as you

lime light
#

how

#

donki kong?

clear pulsar
#

I just got greedy

#

Had low sanity and went for another pull trying to be greedy with my orbs

lime light
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

forest kite
#

how do u get loot from these visions

#

item only drops if u get one of those masks?

calm stream
#

Reckon balance or feral will do okay in pvp?

rich crag
#

Highly recommend until level 6 to just kill the boss, though I did go and do a few bonus objectives without issues

lavish pelican
#

Should DK beat a feral or not in open ground

#

and if it cant how can i deal with a dk

#

Against unholy its almost impossible with his stuns , slows etc

#

while also dealing dps

#

i know but still

#

so much dmg

#

the moment i go in to rebleed him hi just death strike

#

he* and heals back

lavish pelican
#

I have a friend from my guild whom is arround 2.2k he is my booster and he plays DK after countless times of him killing me i managed to kill him after swtiching to BloodTalons instead of FF

rich crag
#

Got an obelisk of the sun... lol

obtuse ice
#

@clear pulsar I love you

#

Thanks

#

โค๏ธ

#

No homo

clear pulsar
#

I fucking

rich kestrel
#

thoughts on new essence for pvp ?

#

for resto

clear pulsar
#

My rogue alt has cloak lvl 4

#

My main feral should have lvl 5 but only 2

#

Cuz I'm a greedy stupid

obtuse ice
#

โ˜บ๏ธ

clear pulsar
#

I could have got 3 areas bro

#

100%

#

I was gonna get it

obtuse ice
#

It will be BiS for pvp?

#

The cloak

clear pulsar
#

Well

#

There are no cloak drops

#

Anywhere

#

Yeah I'll be caught up in 2 weeks anyway

#

Since it's capped apparently

#

But it feels so fucking bad

#

:(

#

I could have lvl 5 cloak

#

Instead it's lvl 2

tiny oar
#

Yea I messed up my monk 1 lvl too but apparently it doesnt matter that much cuz catch up or something so we chilling

obtuse ice
#

I feel better

calm stream
#

What people feeing will do better in arena boomy or feral?

#

@vestal citrus yeah? Out of curiosity why you feel that?

#

Good call hahah

clear pulsar
#

Cuz glyph is washed up and cant make boomie work again

calm stream
#

Was running spriest but given they got raped in nerfs, was looking at either my Druid or lock to push with

clear pulsar
#

That's why he says that

#

Thing is

#

New feral sounds makes the spec unplayable

#

Crutch

calm stream
#

Hahaha so would you chose feral or lock in my shoes? To push rating?

clear pulsar
#

Destro was infinitely better for the entirety of 2019

#

Than feral or boomie

calm stream
#

Yeah fair call, my arena partner would be mage and hpala

clear pulsar
#

And so far no nerfs or buffs to either

#

Getting cloak on horde feral

#

Fucking GWfroggerKrabsReee

#

Cba with this intro anymore

calm stream
#

Hahahah

#

Thanks legends

lime light
#

@clear pulsar apparently u can skip

#

Scenarios somehow

clear pulsar
#

Only first one

#

The initial halls part

lime light
#

And the other one too

#

Talk with the big guy

#

Not too bad?

clear pulsar
#

It's fucking hideous!????

lime light
#

No pls dont say that

#

Not too bad

tiny oar
#

Woah sick mog

obtuse ice
#

Wow

#

Hpal getting nerf

#

No

lime light
#

Trait only ofc

obtuse ice
#

Really

#

I've seen so much

#

In changes

#

Ok

#

๐Ÿ˜ณ

sly comet
#

guys a question that will hurt some feelings i guess :p but do you know which healer is or will (with 8.3) be best for guardian comps ? rsham, mw or hpal ( healers that a mate plays) ?

#

i wanna know the synergie that fits better with

#

@vestal citrus why exactly compared to hpal ?

west laurel
#

with my hunter i played jungle with guard lmfao

#

broken as shit

#

priest couldnt die

sly comet
#

yeah but sham is weak agaisnt rmp that is the meta comp

#

yes, we're planning to rsham / guardian and me DH or DK

#

and my healer friend was asking if he stays rsham or go for hpal

#

also with trinket nerfs, some guys say that rsham will be less "tanky"

#

and for me ? DH or frost DK ?

#

:)

#

Thnx for you help ;)

#

Another clarification : why shaman's masters is good for Bear ? It's more related to missing health nah ?

#

@vestal citrus

west laurel
#

guardian comp isnt that hard to play

#

just go in and try it few times

#

will be ez

lime light
#

@vestal citrus eu Guardian jungle pls

#

Pls backpedle

#

This words

#

IT hurts

#

Its not jungle

#

Its cancer

#

Zoo

#

Animal planet