yes
#pvp
late wraith
queen gust
Lemme know if you commit to the bit and end up making more than one lul. At this point for me it's less so the MMO buttons and it's the third click that I can't live without.
(It's been my dedicated push to talk bind for like 15 years at this point)
random patrol
well I got to make a few first
first thing is build a shit prototype or 10 before I push forward with anything else
kind of the opposite of a crownfund
make it first then make it better then sell it
@late wraith this your thing
random patrol
best mouse is the cheap ass free you you get with 4k computer
you know it's going to be useless but f it extra rodent
or taxidermd mouse over normal mouse
wanton ridge
Yes, rip the mx510/518
i see puzzle is also a man of culture
I had the red one :(
grand mesa
Everyone was big on the deathadder a few years later but I stuck with my mx510
halcyon siren
BASED
wanton ridge
ever since I played wow with the mx510 back in the day, I strafe with both A/D and those two thumb buttons :x
I switch mid-move depending if I want to cast spells or not lol
weird ass keybinds, too old to change now, gg
viscid remnant
had one like this but textured instead of blue
dont even remember the model name
tropic grove
@late wraith if i queue shuffle tonight do you think i go from 2100 to 2300 yes or no
tropic grove
only if u stream the games
u just want to hatewatch me
clear fox
ON ONE MONITOR?
grand mesa
That’s why when I asked if he saw that cool thing I did
stray sigil
yday i had legit
grand mesa
He said no I was watching the other tab
livid wasp
how do you just spam shuffles without getting mad
tropic grove
any knowers in the chat
tropic grove
i think just download streamlab and rip it
(im practicing my lingo)
tropic grove
im trying to fix stuff like i have a weird echo i think
tropic grove
yuge
stray sigil
late wraith
<@269313900816629760> this your thing
that's it yeah
clear fox
how do you just spam shuffles without getting mad
you have 2 chars and q lower one
late wraith
get it
clear fox
takes a minute ye but def helps me a lot to not tilt in shuffle
to just always be on lower char
tropic grove
25 jesus i am problematic
since yesterday even
livid wasp
im 1690 rated after 2 months of season
late wraith
since yesterday even
HAPPY BIRTHDAY WHAT
halcyon siren
whoever said try arms war idk if it was face, good recommendation im dog as shit at it but at least it has some actual depth compared to feral rotation
tropic grove
HAPPY BIRTHDAY WHAT
ty
halcyon siren
mighta been varugh idr
tropic grove
25 jesus i am problematic
how are you problmeatic
late wraith
25 it's time for your quarter life crisis
late wraith
how are you problmeatic
age gap
halcyon siren
aren't you only like 40
late wraith
@stray sigil
stray sigil
didnt see it therefore u cheated
late wraith
i have been streaming doing it
late wraith
Vw disc man Jesus
random patrol
queen gust
so #nerfboomy
All I see is that boomy is such a terrifying threat that it must be shut down at all costs leaving the Disc priest open to blast.
grand mesa
25 jesus i am problematic
Ur just under 3 times his age…
stray sigil
Ur just under 3 times his age…
late wraith
Ur just under 3 times his age…
go take a nap puzzle
grand mesa
I can’t imagine still working
It’s horrendous
and I got a team dinner in an hour
Then I clock into my shift at the p1 Lura wipe factory for 3 hours
tropic grove
@stray sigil instant shuffle queue LETS GO
stray sigil
tropic schooner
big tiger
tropic schooner
go take a nap puzzle
NO I DONT WANNA
tropic grove
@stray sigil he was right
grand mesa
What a goddamn G
tropic grove
low key boomkin was super fun those 3 shuffs i did
livid wasp
life must be so nice and easy like that
grand mesa
Just play and achieve your goals
tropic grove
Just play and achieve your goals
literally 3x games, 5-1 / 4-2 / 5-1
went from 2100 on the dot to this
clear fox
Nice work man
robust swift
Does feral pvp not take apex pred proc talent or am I just being a silly goose
halcyon siren
No it mostly does not.
Good vs bm or unholy with primal wrath
Worse then veinripper otherwise
robust swift
Ok thanks for clarifying! I was setting up a sound alert and wondering why I didnt have it, makes sense
halcyon siren
It's very likely preference though, like I'm sure some ferals like it
But veinripper is certainly my preferred outside of primal wrath situations
robust swift
oh im sure. I havent sorted myself out with the patch buffs, we're not taking frantic frenzy are we?
halcyon siren
No the basis of this class is pairing tigers fury and focused frenzy
With maim
So you want 30sec cd
On frenzy
robust swift
I figured that was the better option, I could have sworn people were saying FF is now a solid choice
Ty again!
halcyon siren
Idk might be I am an arms warrior main now
(I have my sincere doubts)
Class already doesn't burst so maybe that's the idea, lean even harder into rot cleave
But I really doubt it
Check murlok.io for your preferred game mode and look at the top 50 distribution
Ya 50/50 are using focused in shuffle and 8 are running primal + apex pred but I imagine they just logged after facing uhdk or bn
robust swift
will do!
late wraith
<@142673512987885568> he was right
proud of u
tropic grove
proud of u
today was a major w, wifey told me happy birthday, i got elite and a friend of mine decided to give me 2M gold free of charge/service
late wraith
HOLY
random patrol
now to burn the leaves
livid wasp
I dunno I use apex
tropic grove
Who just gives random people 2m gold
friend from guild
bro is rich and he boosts a lot so he makes more than that every week
tropic grove
the guild you just joined?
ye
i mean
tahts the guy that got me in
and i got him in our old guild
we're homies
late wraith
oh got it got it
lavish pagoda
today was a major w, wifey told me happy birthday, i got elite and a friend of m...
This means you had 16k gold brokie
lavish pagoda
Understandable
tropic grove
and then i just had like 50k that i used to maintain for m+ consumes
but aug runes max rank flasks / pots etc get expensive
random patrol
they should do a scooby do but replace it with a snake and his tarantula sidekick
fast stratus
Is Snupy still the go to for feral pvp guides?
safe heart
No Dallas made a guide use that
fast stratus
Thank you
mild turtle
is bigdebuffs working for people? is there an alternative?
im getting a silly amount of lua errors when i try to use it
random patrol
try mini cc
tiny oar
tiny oar
big tauren chieftain
stray sigil
whys he making another furreal
halcyon siren
whys he making another furreal
boomie
stray sigil
astral rune
Is furreal not the play?
halcyon siren
just bored of game and trying out new things
halcyon siren
It's 29c/like 85 f where I live and I'm ready for winter!!!!
random patrol
can't wait for summer
halcyon siren
Girl it already is
random patrol
not until June 21st
clear pulsar
Sheeeesh
Yeah I cant compete with that
Last time I had 2M gold I got permabanned
halcyon siren
That's the way she goes bud
I think it's crazy you get banned for buying
Like that's so anti player
The sellers don't care ofc if you or even they get banned
I also don't get how some are never affected
I've been given or given away thousands/millions (classic/retail) of gold and I know for a fact my friends are all buying , my main wow friend buys 1m every single season from third party except this season because he just bought 4m from me instead
Nobody in these anecdotes has ever been bannef
But they gun down face?
velvet quest
many people are saying this
vocal pollen
weeb
velvet quest
i actually just went 0-6 on my main too (its a bad lobby for me)
it shouldnt have been bad but i had to cycle through every button i had before my healers used one thing on me and im getting cranked against triple range
halcyon siren
<a:evilstare:838469578866294794>
?!
Could also just keep watching anime in the comfort of my bed
clear pulsar
Dps players try not to whine about getting a free win challenge
Best way to try and carry the 0-5 to a sole win on your team is to demoralize them, everyone's saying this
halcyon siren
When I get a 0-5er I say 'lock in fellas' and 'i believe'
rugged heath
i swear everything feels so ass except maybe playing with a warr
halcyon siren
(They do not lock in often)
rugged heath
(they afk in starting room)
halcyon siren
Probably either
Unsure tbh,
I also did see some very high mmr boomie hunter
On stream
rugged heath
waiting for the day they add a glad mount recolor to SS so i dont have to play lfg simulator on a shit spec
halcyon siren
Which looked intriguing and was clapping the person I watched
rugged heath
yea i saw 2 ppl play with MM aswell
MM kinda cracked it does so much damage
and good cc
stun trap clone
halcyon siren
Tldr tho appears to be 'group with a good mortal strike'
Rn that's war mm I think.
rugged heath
ok i didnt realize mm had MS now lol, but apparently aimshot applies it now 🙂
halcyon siren
Not sure tbh
That's news to me I thought they just used the pet
The more u know.
tardy hare
Ye its on aimed shot
halcyon siren
Pog been waiting for that change for a long time
Sucks they took it off in the first place it was a huge L for pet variety
But now ofc...
late wraith
Does bm still have mortal strike on pet?
Could I have been using double horses the whole time
late wraith
I use a raptor named horse and a worm named horseworm I have grown to love them but my brand has suffered
The raptor def still lists the mortal strike in its description
clear pulsar
Yeah BM and SV are still on pet only
safe heart
In high school we didn't have a horse girl , but we did have a cow girl
Like she did cow competitions
Where you show off your cow
To other people who love cows
She didn't lasso shit tbh
vocal pollen
im a cow girl
clear pulsar
How can you be a horsegirl with no horse
You can use a horse for your 2nd pet
halcyon siren
In high school we didn't have a horse girl , but we did have a cow girl
My first gf was this, it was some program to like raise a cow and then sell it to get young people into ranching or something or livestock raising
She cried when they made her sell it allegedly (this program was 2 years before I met her so I guess when she was 14)
astral rune
My first gf was this, it was some program to like raise a cow and then sell it t...
4-H! I just found out about those earlier this year lol
they end up showing off the livestock animals at the state fair here
honestly pretty cool if your school district has the $ to do it
safe heart
My first gf was this, it was some program to like raise a cow and then sell it t...
Was it like 4h or something
halcyon siren
Yes 4-h! I was thinking it was something like 2-hb but couldn't remember
astral rune
mmr inflation goes brrr
halcyon siren
I didn't think there was blitz inflation added, just 3s/shuff
Tho I guess it would make sense that there's some natural inflation
late wraith
it's probably just natty inflation
from people wrapping up raid wanting to queue to get mog and stuff
and inflation in shuffle/3s got people interested in pvp in general
halcyon siren
Either way we love it
Big fan of more games happening more people playing all modes
random patrol
that warlock I know with a tauren hoof fetish is going to love that yeah
late wraith
oh
queen gust
June's trading post has all the good tauren stuff too
I hate my tauren druid
Every time I swap from Nelf to Tauren I lose the ability to judge if targets are in cyclone range >:|
clear fox
Why starsuge so smol? 3x to equal one DDH global
random patrol
just rem no matter how bad your day is your not an insect with a horsehair worm crawling out of your butt
unless you are then you go tiger
harsh ore
Start it when ur at like 91% mana
cold rock
kk
harsh ore
And not 100% ofc
harsh ore
Only one I recommend is
cold rock
weak auras? lmao
harsh ore
Only that one I use
It helps TREMENDOUSLY knowing if the enemy has an interrupt
Because if they stop your cyclone / regrowth
Rip
Omnibar is like just so helpful
Idc about Gladius cuz I have name plates and raid frames enabled
@cold rock I got to 2.1k with guardian affinity so I definitely recommend putting your efforts to surviving and CDs. Use feral when you’re safe and comfortable
Also guardian affinity is amazing against double melee
For when they decide to have Tauren for dinner
clear pulsar
I meant to the guy saying you dont need gladius/arena frame addon with dr tracker
harsh ore
@clear pulsar I track dr instinctively
Including hots
I’ve played so much that I’ve memorized timing
@cold rock safeguard is a rlly good one
The other doesn’t rlly matter
I use the decree trinket from ep
obtuse ice
you're just not playing feral
round dome
is there a good way to show mana bar while in cat form?
always annoying to go for a drink in cat form and have to guess where my mana is at
clear pulsar
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@round dome
This should show mana percentage while you're in cat form
Just make it display in some different way if you want
last owlBOT
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livid wasp
idk why arena has to be so hard now
2 months ago I got to 2.1k now easy
now im below 2k
smoky sail
Stop manarift go
Watch dh global and ur healer Dr ^^ but I feel dh die very good to feral 🤔
Dh also very dislike root maybe bait 1st reverse then reroot behind the box and get ur restealth
livid wasp
sigh wish they just added an option to blacklist 1 class when queing so I wouldnt have to deal with that shit ever again
and some god damn rdruid/ww
such aids
healer just stands far away and I cant focus the ww down since he has low cd on tok
like maybe im supposed to do switches to make the druid go oom or something but its so difficult when I have to run 10 km every time I switch
and he hardly even dots
hots*
smoky sail
Switch only with gap closer like wcharge so u don't wast global chasing him
U can also force random karma with thorns I guess
livid wasp
resto bear form should have cast time too
its so stupid
like 5 ww comps in a row and lost all
god fucking damnit
livid wasp
human
smoky sail
Idk don't see Dat much feral but I remember get canceled by bigpeter as rdrood xD
livid wasp
but I just got so mad
it wasnt even that good a rdruid
and he randomly bear forms just when im gonna do something on him
like literally the same gcd
if he was good I wouldnt mind but he was shit and lucky
smoky sail
Meh he's not Dat stupid so :p
livid wasp
he wouldnt be 1.9k
smoky sail
If u clone all ww cd like karma/tod/wall u should put them in trouble
Or even barkskin
smoky sail
Not pro feral but abusing clone look overpower
With stuns and ur healer cc u can control an entiere game
livid wasp
should always take a break when I feel like shouting at my pc
it all goes to shit when playing angry
smoky sail
Playing angry never let u exp ^^
Positive mindset is key of progression 
When my teammate trash talk I kick him 
cold rock
Is there an add on where I can track DR because I don’t wanna waste my stun/clone also for a holy pala and dh match up should I run mass entanglement/deep roots? I mean the paladin can just freedom him
Also should my partner focus healer or dps or swap both in that match up
Dh has a lot of leech plus pala has good mana management and heals so it’s tough
vestal rain
Some1 got a good focused growth WA?
smoky sail
Can't freedom behind the box 
Pala struggle on mana to heal 2 target same time ^^
SArena or Gladius track ur Dr :)
cold rock
That’s true lol and yeah I’ve noticed that and really? I didn’t notice Gladius does that
cold rock
So when I have full hots and I have 16% mastery my swift mend is healing for 16% more when you have all hots?
my partner seems to think so but I don’t think that’s how it works lmfao
If my overall healing 16% or 16% each hot. I’d assume overall
obtuse ice
😔
smoky sail
obtuse ice
betas... :
tardy hare
Looks like a Formy quotw
obtuse ice
😔
vestal rain
When playing as dh rdruid (as the druid) vs mirror or other dh teams in general, do you go relentless or trinket?
smoky sail
I might be wrong but rele is more when you know nothing gonna die in less than 5s or mate having big peel capabilities
forest kite
i made rogue
why is feral more fun?
seems like so much rogue in 1 spec
any of the new essences look interesting for pvp?
lime light
rmx viable in 8.3?
obtuse ice
Jungle
smoky sail
Mld ftw
forest kite
if destro lock is not removed from meta im gonna kill myself
forest kite
destro is problem anywhere it is
smoky sail
I think he said for overall m^
forest kite
literally works with any comp i think
obtuse ice
and feral
smoky sail
Feral 4head
obtuse ice
😬
smoky sail
Try 2s boomy u gonna learn the true pain
Is the infernal from vision of perfection does same dmg and stack bolt like the original?
forest kite
destro lock class fantasy is being a turret
I think feral with vortex and clone base gonna be good
but then have to see what they give to rogue
forest kite
what good is shiv?
it looks like garbage
tooltip is like 3k and enrage is good vs nothing
obtuse ice
grr
clear pulsar
Shiv also applies all 3 poisons as assa
forest kite
what has been taken from feral since mop?
shred from behind, blink? or was that resto?
smoky sail
Blink 
How lit we should be with it 
BAER blink
No need skystep
Imagine give the blink to thugbaer
And insta peel any comp xD
Hm ye blink in 10 mob without bearform sound uncomfy x)
Need shimmer for terrorist clone 👌
stray sigil
@rigid linden which one u prefer clr or cns minor? i cant choose between the two
its like 4%ish vers vs like 10-20k dmg and 5% increase dmg procs
smoky sail
I guess clf is always in as minor on tons of classes
smoky sail
Somebody know when s3 end?
sturdy agate
that's quite a bit away
vestal rain
For resto would you use a 440 Conch (int + crit procc) or a 425 insignia (vers + int procc)?
harsh ore
I’d go with the conch
Trinkets don’t really matter for resto anyway
Usually Ilvl is the better way to go when they’re that far apart
And all stats have roughly same value for us
As long as you don’t compromise haste and have it be lower than reasonable
west oasis
I'd use conch too tbh
It gives a buttload of crit when it proccs which is really good on a fully hotted target
sturdy agate
wheres conch drop again sry
west oasis
^
obtuse ice
^^
tardy hare
^^^
hybrid sluice
^^^^
lime light
thats super gay
surreal heron
exdee
surreal heron
surreal heron
luck of the draw, was just switching through channels
wise valley
oh u a weirdo then
surreal heron
yeah
wise valley
fresh stream
What is considered best race for Boomie in pvp for Horde?
smoky sail
Max dmg is troll for berzerk
round dome
lively spirit used to be good
sturdy agate
is xot a respectable resto druid arenaer
obtuse ice
Isn't xot a shadowb priest
sturdy agate
oh
was talking about my damp comp in 2s spriest and rdruid about a week ago
what pvp talent should ireplace thorns with against a double caster comp (3v3)
im using c&c major so i have overgrowth..
terse hemlock
Just been wrecking people in AV as feral. Quite fun.
harsh ore
@sturdy agate I did rdruid and spriest with my friend
Reached 2.2k 2s
Spriest is incredible at using CDs
My friend would say “go eat”
And I’ll just afk while he CDs
Disperse > fade > vampiric embrace > double fear > my CDs are available
And they get a passive 30% damage reduction when meleed
For talents - cyclone, the lifebloom talent, mark of wild if against boomkin or survival, and umm
west oasis
C&S is pretty good
harsh ore
Overgrowth can be from your essence
west oasis
but most spriest comps you're dampening so any mana essence major/mionr you can get
harsh ore
Against double casters there isn’t much talent availability
All our talents revolve around melee
So pick whatever u think will help
Thorns is actually good against warlocks
Kills their pets
west oasis
yeah but killing pet can be done by teammates too
so it's like, eh
rather have something else in that slot ya know
harsh ore
Or you can do it with feral affinity behind a pillar while your spriest spams cc the lock from resummoning it while u eat 😂
harsh ore
But yeah - I forgot what I take as my third cuz tbh there ain’t much for casters
west oasis
yeah
in like later of s1 and early s2
motw is pretty decent to my surprise
into survival that is
harsh ore
But MOW literally drops survivals #1 damaging ability to #2
Especially with constant dispells
It relieves so much pressure
sturdy agate
im having ahrad time with that, i oom too fast
harsh ore
Then your spriest friend is not doing a good job
Also against double caster you don’t actually fight them
You dot and los entire game
Then kill them in dampening
Los every chaos bolt, los every mage spells etc
I almost never go oom in games
Rotate your innervate with overgrowth and have double minor mana essences
Make ur priest tank while u eat in stealth
Make them save disperse and fade for when you e used up your CDs
Open with iron bark on any type of burst
Don’t hold CDs as a Druid, use them asap when appropriate
Spam dispell caster dots. Make their life hell
Not immolate but double spriest dots or survival / boomkin dots
sturdy agate
is ther a vod review channel
lime light
girls vod's have priority
clear pulsar
Tfw am pve guy
smoky sail
Pvpe 
obtuse ice
lime light
😒
lime light
Bring back RMX pls
ember scarab
In PvP, what is it that you find irritates or distracts you the most?
For me, it's when there are too many people in one area.
I had been considering making text macros for some of my feral abilities. The hope is that the enemy player will see it and be distracted by it, even though they won't be able to understand it.
lime light
When apes pressing 1212 and iam ded thro wall and bear
wicked torrent
Hi, do you know resources to learn general tips for playing resto in 2v2s. I'm 1.6 rated and struggle vs double dps comps
celest oracle
Play more, its down to you knowing what happens and what to do against it.
General tip, ironbark into swiftmend + overgrowth is strong af.
Then bearform and /dance
west oasis
Watch streamers as well
Ask and figure out why they make their play
How effective it was
Etc etc
celest oracle
wicked torrent
thanks for the tips!
sturdy agate
would that entail dropping cyclone for overgrowth talent thorns and revitlization
bc u wouldnt have time to cyclone?
sturdy agate
hmm?
stray sigil
how exactly does the warlords trophy work?
is it like the chest where i have to play 1 game at my given rating for it to upragde to like 440?
clear pulsar
I think you can see the one you'd get when you talk to the guy
Before you turn in the quest
You talk to him, click continue, and mouse over the trophy
Then just walk away if you dont wanna turn in yet
cold rock
so i just got some really confusing traits, im not sure which is better. Im looking at worldofwargraphs and the one helmet has a higher percentage with "better traits" but the other one is right below it and it has 1 not so good trait
so im not sure which one to go through with
This is the first one
thats the second one
https://www.worldofwargraphs.com/pvp-stats/azerite/druid/restoration this is what im going based off of aswell
rigid linden
I am asass rogue main no1 can stop me
west oasis
@cold rock i wouldn't look at worldofwargraphs, you can't really measure what's good in arena
most of the stuff pros use is just feelycraft
lime light
@obtuse ice logout, log dk
west oasis
but imo, you can't really make use of the autumn leaves in arena
90% of the time, a target will have more than 1 hot on them
so the trait is kind of useless
i'd go with the rampant growth + grove tending one
obtuse ice
How do you cancel drink if your healer is getting pumped up lmao
cold rock
kk ty nujabes 🙂
celest oracle
Revy, i run clone, thorns, overgrowth as default. Thorns i remove as the only one.
Depending on neck essense i will also run master shapeshifter.
wise valley
lol yall still talk to rhyme using words?
we all know little kids love airplane noises
forest kite
healers in lfg so trash
wtf
did they just buff lasso?
700% spell dmg now
is says from 630% to 700% in 8.3
cold rock
My partner and i hit 1800 tonight, just wanna say thanks for all the help now is 2k
blissful belfry
^^^. Joining dreamgrove was the best thing i ever did to improve myself. These guys are a blessing
cold rock
for real man
west oasis
happy that you guys were able to improve!
clear pulsar
@vestal citrus you brazil now?
Also this is a nerf, fucking moron
They should buff feral mana regen
That is big sucks
4 regrowths oom for 30 seconds
tacit cosmos
in 3s could I run guardian/aff lock/x?
clear pulsar
Doubt tbh, the aff isn't gonna get any pressure out, you need something that'll at least force the enemy healer to use mana
surreal heron
@wise valley 
lime light
😒
lime light
obtuse ice
😎
forest kite
@clear pulsar you kiss your mom with that tongue?
neon rover
got a hard time playing 2v2 against Holy Priest/Destro (2k rating). I'm playing Resto/WW. Any tips? I always lost on mana
weak drift
What’s your pvp talents?
round dome
you just have to be really good is what it boils down to
you can't make mistakes vs holy destro
round dome
you have a lot more than two
but you have to use them correctly
you need ring if they use circle
neon rover
i play CoF major , lifebinders/ERT minor
round dome
ring/kick are the only things that go through fade for you
gotta make sure you have one when the priest fades or he gets the gheal off
probably just line lock during infernal than kill priest after
gotta coordinate your stops
weak drift
You can just cyclone mid gheal if you notice early enough
obtuse ice
Ring op
weak drift
Yea ring is pretty great lol
round dome
cyclone spam to get holy ward
your monk wants to be able to force defensives without using too many of his own cds
weak drift
I like to pre hot my dps and immediately cyclone spam and finish with a bash. If their stupid they will let it happen. If they are stupid they will trinket outa a dr cyclone lol
obtuse ice
I think you can one shot Holy pretty easily
round dome
thats not a great plan
you dont want to put them on cc dr so early for no real reason
weak drift
I’m a low cr so it works for me lol
neon rover
i can one shot Holy when i play Disc/Havoc , it's easy as fuck
weak drift
Wel you both pump damage
neon rover
but i can't kill them playing ww/resto
obtuse ice
WW burst is absurd.
round dome
it doesnt matter if priest has defensives
weak drift
Can be obsurd
round dome
1 gheal and he erases everything
round dome
not even close
gheal is insanely mana efficient
and hpriest is gonna pump more dps than the rdruid
once hpriest gets a mana lead and dampening starts getting high the purge spam starts and that's the end of the game for rdruid
obtuse ice
Oh oki
round dome
it's a weird matchup
weak drift
Resto goes oom the fastest I think
But they have lots of utility making them still worthwhile
round dome
I think if both teams play perfectly the ww/rdruid is favored
but the more mistakes the more hpriest/destro is favored
sturdy agate
wats ring
harsh ore
Or just run deep roots and mass entanglement
Dh gon do what
Dash in the root?
Ok demonhunter
I love playing against dh tbh, they’re much easier to predict than say a warrior
Where they randomly get burst and execute big
forest kite
get dispelled by healer or reverse
clear pulsar
Just spam root the DH and be a feral trying to solo a resto shaman 4Head
forest kite
when i pug as healer on alts i always look for DH
cuz it's so simple yet strong that would take someone special to not perform
clear pulsar
You must be really really really fucking good then
Cuz last I checked there were 8 DHs in the top 20
If they're free win you should be #1 druid world brother
obtuse ice
xD
livid wasp
how do you deal with rdruid/dh as feral/hpal?
like he was feral aff too I just tried to go him but he just runs and losses me and always gets thorns up
obtuse ice
root him
livid wasp
the druid?
clear pulsar
If he's feral aff put thorns up when he tries to come in
oblique lynx
Should I take prosperity in pvp with 3 Grove tending?
harsh ore
Well I did t mean it as I’m a god
But under 2.2k dh are free wins
Or maybe my partner is good
clear pulsar
Pmuch always use prosperity @oblique lynx
Cenarion ward seems useful vs big purge spam, maybe
oblique lynx
Into something like rogue mage tree is better though than soul right?
clear pulsar
Tree pretty useless
Unless you big scared
It's like a hail mary, but not a good one
harsh ore
The thing I find easy with DH is:
- they can be kited
- they can be CCd once you bait their interrupt
- their damage is very predictable meaning you can know when and what to use for heal
- it’s obvious when they’re scary because they’re a big black bat man
- when they fly in the air los and afk
oblique lynx
I mean it seems great since I can't be polyed and can't be interupted or purged, as much
clear pulsar
It's not that tree is a bad spell
If it was baseline you'd definitely press it
But soul is really really really strong
And you're still susceptible to purge spam, 100%
oblique lynx
I mean just spam regrowth and root
clear pulsar
Yeah spam regrowth doesnt do anything
If you dont have other hots up
Spam regrowth with nothing else up
oblique lynx
Good point
west oasis
@oblique lynx they don't need to poly to win in an rmx matchup
Kidney, ring, breath(if fire), blind are still great cc tools from rm
And something like Pala or druid will extend that cc chain
So in a nutshell, your tree can also become useless even if you press it
sturdy agate
wats more important, 5 ilvl or the correct sub stats
resto haste+vers 435 or 440 crit /mast
rigid linden
435 haste vers
west oasis
^^^
sturdy agate
15% haste 20% mastery 19.6 % crit
are these stats too "pve"
is there a raiderio website for pvp playeers?
nice cool site
ok thanks ill look at my gears
edgy oxide
btw, just so you know, raider.io shouldn't really be trusted for pve even
if you're looking for gearing
sturdy agate
u ever get into that awkward face to face moemnt with another druid and his cyclone is faster than u? :\
i use it to find common gears amongst the top 20
clear pulsar
Somebody call my name?
tired laurel
Is there a hidden cap or something on enraged maul from the heart of the wild talent?
hit a raid boss with 44mil HP and it only did 30k
surreal heron
obtuse ice
You can't even have heart of the wild in pve
tired laurel
no, but what damage would be calculated
base maul?
thats what I'm trying to get at
lime light
Its up to your max hp
So if u are 100k HP baboon your maul will be max 8k even vs 800k hp Guardian disgusting Ape abusers
Same with every % spell in the game
😒
obtuse ice
Mashalla
willow anvil
Is Contritrition even a good talent for PVP ? It says heals for 1.6k for everyone with atonement but is that per bolt of penance ?
Oh fuck wrong class channel
odd juniper
@vestal citrus on check-pvp i saw 2 boomies stacking heavily versa using mechagon trinket with HPS card
Is it way to go?
odd juniper
exactly 😄
odd juniper
Fisherz
2567cr in 3s boomie
stacking Arcanic Pulsar + 1x frenzy regen trait, so its seems like his way to go in pvp
vs some comps im sitting 80% time in bearform, cause my healer cannot outheal me
miss bear moonfire 😄
qd?
u still playing bala glyph? or moved to resto? 😛
livid wasp
maybe both but used to be able to go 2k easily even while being shit
now its just a huge struggle
stray sigil
tank trinkets dont save you from dying in kidneys 
sturdy agate
why is motw good against survival hunters
clear pulsar
@stray sigil they might when they proc 2 30k heals inside the smoke bomb
@sturdy agate idk if it's a good pick over other talents but they have a poison dot which is nature damage
sturdy agate
its their #1 dmg right?
clear pulsar
Not quite, but it's a decent chunk
stray sigil
@clear pulsar and then u dont get any procs and ur a sad cat 😦
sturdy agate
is there a pt to getting feral aff without shape shifter? does ur dmg not clap enough in 2s to do so
@clear pulsar that regrowth, wdym? itheals more with hots?
stray sigil
@clear pulsar ya but that trink isnt gonna save u in a kidney
sturdy agate
wud u ever use WG in 2s
west oasis
very sparingly
during innervate or something like that
or when i know, i can get alot of drinks off
but if there is large periods of time where i'm not going for drinks
99% of the time i wont cast it
west oasis
oh yeah legion, WG was great thanks to ghanir and the persistence trait
maybe some thing has changed idk, but WG just doesn't feel as impactful ,even with sotf buff
i think shadowplay could do better with shroom build imo
MLD too
stand triangle, stand in shroom, reap the benefits of max 40 yd healing
sturdy agate
would wild growth work if i cast on myself near a smoke bomb?
or better off efflorescence inside it?
unkempt wind
twitch.tv/axtin 2450cr feral 3v3
harsh ore
@unkempt wind Love ur bars
harsh ore
@livid wasp u might be interested in this
clear pulsar
Haha
Beautiful
I have class at 10am and then again at 3pm
Couple of days
At some point all the sleep I was getting in a day was between those classes
tropic schooner
Very reasonable
clear pulsar
Well the morning class ends 10am***
clear pulsar
Yeah
edgy oxide
they were scheduled for 8:00 but started at 8:30? :p
clear pulsar
But at least it's some bullshit "technology and society" class so I don't actually have to be very aware of anything
harsh ore
enten stop spamming this chat is for pvp
tropic schooner
Yes
harsh ore
enten isnt even 2k
tropic schooner
Wasnt that a feral Stream you linked
Thats a lie
Pretty Sure im still above 2k
You dont decay in this game
harsh ore
=]
tropic schooner
Exactly that!
clear pulsar
I faced guardian unholy hpala last night
tropic schooner
But im Not even really pveing atm
clear pulsar
Definitely ready to take that 3 month break too
clear pulsar
Idk feels like games are so unnecessarily long
clear pulsar
Like 12 min game where we were never really close to dying but we just couldn't kill cuz spam death strike and brambles + protector of the pack
tropic schooner
I Played Double heal protpala in wratg
And ret resto Druid
Im used to 45 Minute draws
clear pulsar
Oh lord
tropic schooner
Ye gcd hackers
Shadowmourne
Prot heal palas
Broken dks and rets in s5/6
People Like to remember good stuff
But people Always cry about pvp
tropic schooner
Its a Bit confusing
harsh ore
grrr
sharp wasp
Essence question. I'm trying to get conflict. If i run mold major with visions what should the 3rd be? Iris flame CLF?
jovial violet
@sharp wasp which spec?
sharp wasp
Sorry boomie
clear pulsar
This is the first time
I see someone use mold
To refer to lucid dreams
Insanity
sharp wasp
Well ive been watching PvP videos and this guys uses incarn into lucid and gets 7 to 10 starsurge in a row.
But he runs lucid major with visions and conflict minors
sullen crescent
Hey guys, asking for a fellow resto druid. What are the BIS essences for arena. Major? And minor?
hybrid sluice
CoF Major CnS/ERT minor is my preference
obtuse ice
🙄
wispy wadi
frost dk was on me
and my hp never went up
how?
no stun worked on him and i couldn't keep out, insane
forest kite
Is Ret + Resto a strong or viable comp for 2s? Otherwise seems my best luck has been with MW + Resto.
celest oracle
If ret is good then yes. They hit hard.
cedar mason
Which trinkets are good for resto druid in pvp?
cunning lance
So when I get 2x melee dps on me I struggle to survive as resto.
I hot myself with overgrowth, go bear form, use frenzy, use barkskin and ironbark, have safeguard trinket, use ursols vortex to peel + wild charge to jump away, try to pillar hug, effloressence on pillar too
But if rogue stun/slow me, or DK, and DH just pounds on me, im dead
Should my team peel them?
west oasis
lol
yea
in arena, you cant solo survive vs 2 ppl
need a person to cc atleast 1 person off you
clear pulsar
Especially 2s, which sounds like is what you're playing
Since already starts at dampening
cunning lance
3s yeah
Ok thanks i play in LFG for 3s and they dont peel and then blame me for dying
So was starting to question myself
clear pulsar
Maybe his partner was spamming damage instead of using utility
Idk
It depends on the comp tho
Yours and enemy
echo creek
Definitely hard to survive on your own vs 2 melee
cunning lance
We were DH /DK / me . 1st round was against surv hunt + DK + disc priest - they both went on priest and left me with dps.
2nd round was against Rogue + Ret pala + ele shaman and they both wont on shaman and left me with dps (+shaman purging me)