pvp

[random patrol]

Im not allowed to play minecraft

[grand mesa]

SL was all RMP

[random patrol]

I would play it for like 8 hours

[late wraith]

There’s always a meta I don’t remember a season that didn’t have a pretty obvious meta with some outliers

[halcyon siren]

Nah not the first time and don't get me wrong watch fxx in tww was also like kinda sleeper

[late wraith]

I guess last season had some decent variety

[halcyon siren]

But this is the worst it's been

[random patrol]

could be worse could br rouge chicken healer

shudder time

[late wraith]

I don’t think it’s the worst it’s been rogue mage is just boring to watch

So it feels worse than other metas

[vocal pollen]

I miss shadowlands season 3

[random patrol]

I find pvp boring to watch in general but that' me

I miss bfa season 4

mmmm corruptions memes

[halcyon siren]

This is the worst for me because it's rdruid

[late wraith]

I thought you hated me

Mw

lol

I don’t care if you hate me

[random patrol]

rem vers stack vs bleed stack

[velvet quest]

I think most mirrors are super boring to watch, this is also like the most boring iteration of rogue mage possible. But rogue mage vs non rogue mage is usually pretty exciting

[random patrol]

course lock was on haste stack

[halcyon siren]

I love you, I hated mw because it made all other healers in all other comps unplayable and right now I think druid isn't fully doing that

But rmd is the worst iteration of rmx specifically

Although this version of rdruid is admittedly more exciting than past iterations

But as mayo said, this is worst timeline mage rogue so

Balances out.

[late wraith]

I wish corkiy’s team made it further we could watch the best gameplay

Boomy rogue

[grand mesa]

gross

[late wraith]

[grand mesa]

idk its almost always been heavy rmx at AWC especially eu

cdew's team was primarily cleave teams until they caved and learned RMP too because of SL

[late wraith]

Eu is truly the worst part of the awc

[grand mesa]

triple resonator 3-2-1 go's on top of bomb and duel and shit

disgusting

[chrome panther]

need sl arms back

execute charge

condemn

why the fuck didnt we get condemn back man

[grand mesa]

i think the two calsses i play p much lost all their cov abilities

atleast u still got kyrian spear

[chrome panther]

spear is the buggiest shit ability man i hate it

[grand mesa]

waht else do u have

[chrome panther]

oh u got precog? you can walk out

HAHA

[late wraith]

What’s that one paladin venthyr spell that made hpal super meta in m*

[velvet quest]

It’s not buggy you just have to aim it better

[grand mesa]

ashen hallow

[late wraith]

M+ lol fuckin phone

ashen hallow yeah

[grand mesa]

necro banenr gone, u have spear, condemn gone, what was the NF one again?

[chrome panther]

nf was the frontal

its gone also

warrior got fucking shafted

ancient aftershock

[late wraith]

Walking out of spear with precog is so funny

Like don’t kick liddle man

[grand mesa]

yeah shaman lost chain harvest, vesper totem, primordial wave, and fae transfusion so

[chrome panther]

i dont but the fucking apes in my shuffle lobbies do

[late wraith]

Hehehehehe

[grand mesa]

and then priest is like

lost boon of ascended, fae guardians, no one played unholy nova ever, and mind games is shitty pvp talent

[chrome panther]

shoulda brought all 4 back for every spec

[late wraith]

Boon of ascension was so good

[chrome panther]

on 1 single split node

based?

[vocal pollen]

I fucking hated boon of the ascended

awful ability

[halcyon siren]

Druid lost swarm but kept convoke

Nightmare

Swarm should have been on class three

It's so ...druidy

[astral rune]

bees were ok

[stray sigil]

they should do bans for awc

like in league

[viscid remnant]

no you cant have good logic

have to see rmx every game every year

[clear pulsar]

They would ban healers, not dps

[halcyon siren]

There should be fearless draft

If you lock outlaw

Can't play again

Etc

Then at least we would see variety

Ya the 1 tricks would be fucjed but man

[stray sigil]

[astral rune]

kitty cleave winning blizzcon is the right timeline and universe and we aren't in it

[stray sigil]

ur cooked lol

why would they ban a healer

[halcyon siren]

They already are fucked

[stray sigil]

if u could ban a spec right now

ppl would just ban mage

[halcyon siren]

You would ban mage

Rn

[stray sigil]

and ud have instantly more variety

[halcyon siren]

I think

[stray sigil]

banning a healer is pepega

itd be rm mw

instead of rmd

lol

[halcyon siren]

U might see gentleman's agreements between the rmx mains to ban a healer

But every non rmx would ban Mage

[clear pulsar]

Healers are the best players and everybody target bans the best players in every game

[stray sigil]

LMFAO

[clear pulsar]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGOKgQqbkAAmeik.webp

[viscid remnant]

you got your opinion generated by big yahu gpt

[halcyon siren]

Ez bait

[stray sigil]

holy moly thats a take

[viscid remnant]

unc im crine

[stray sigil]

thats such bad ragebait

[clear pulsar]

Got u heated

[halcyon siren]

And yet here u are

[clear pulsar]

You cant even pretend

[halcyon siren]

Lmao

Rolled and smoked

[stray sigil]

nah it was so bad all i could do is laugh

[viscid remnant]

@stray sigil afk heal 40 yards away = hard hard labor

[halcyon siren]

Level 0 bait from David too I fear.

[viscid remnant]

Not bait

[stray sigil]

so real

[halcyon siren]

Level 0 brain from David too I fear.

[viscid remnant]

Say again

[stray sigil]

only healers say healers is the hardest role

its real

[halcyon siren]

Idk I think it depends on the healer

[viscid remnant]

Depends on a lot of things

If ur class is fotm

[chrome panther]

...good?

fuck mage

get them out

[viscid remnant]

If your comp is fotm

[halcyon siren]

I do think rdruid is more difficult than many dps rn

And all healers

[stray sigil]

cap

[halcyon siren]

I mean man, other healers are very one dimensional, maybe rsham? Idk it's been so numerically bad I haven't seen any

[stray sigil]

some of the best healers in game are dps rerolls

makes u think

[halcyon siren]

Ye I'm just saying I think that I think rdruid is harder to play than many dps rn

Mostly because all dps got complexity pruned in an insane way

[clear pulsar]

Yeah they realized DPS has no skill expression

[halcyon siren]

And became much more one dimensional

[viscid remnant]

Doesnt matter bc 80-90% of the "skill" in the game is clicking play on the most op class

Now thats a take for val

[stray sigil]

jayti is a hpriest otp

and hes playing rdru now

thoughts

[halcyon siren]

Even something like warrior that I think used to have a lot of skill expression for instance is easier than rdruid rn

[chrome panther]

feral otp playing ww

thoughts?

[halcyon siren]

Surprisingly goated

[stray sigil]

whomst

[halcyon siren]

On rdruid

[chrome panther]

still has lots, tbf

[chrome panther]

you

[stray sigil]

i havent played feral in like 5 years u pig

[chrome panther]

sl fuji was different

a better time

a better fuji

[astral rune]

bring back feral fuji

[halcyon siren]

Yeah I think it's still has some of the highest skill expression tbh

[astral rune]

show up everyone

[stray sigil]

except when andre plays it

[velvet quest]

Only skill expression dps specs are rogue and boomkin

[halcyon siren]

The difference between real warriors and non real warriors is actually cool to watch

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-out-i'm-out-1-3-seconds-1-3-seconds-meme-sliding-gif-18353827383643920094

[halcyon siren]

[chrome panther]

ur such a pig

[stray sigil]

melee bm hunter

[chrome panther]

my arms is clean

[stray sigil]

[halcyon siren]

I might try warrior idk

Surely some other dps is fun

[stray sigil]

do u like 10min gmaes?

if so warrior is for u!

[halcyon siren]

I am actually kind of close to quitting honestly

[stray sigil]

ig u play feral which is also a 10min game spec

so u might be ok

[halcyon siren]

I like my rdruid in pve but midnight has killed every dps class

For me

[halcyon siren]

Not when u boost me on ret login

[stray sigil]

bro lvling is such a chore

holy fuck

1h 1 lvl

[clear pulsar]

On tuesday we become massive bearweavers dw

[stray sigil]

i think i wait for tusday

for tw

tbh

this questing shit is doing nothing

[halcyon siren]

Very cool, but rdruid is already fun, I am looking for a fun dps

[clear pulsar]

Bearweave on feral

[halcyon siren]

And so far I'm just not finding one

[stray sigil]

ive said it

only fun dps is ww

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[astral rune]

rmd can end quick

see

[clear pulsar]

Wallah ww is the only fun DPS rn

[stray sigil]

every other dps spec is a tank

atleast ww u die instantlyt

so ur perma clenched

its real af

[stray sigil]

are u memeing me u piggy

[halcyon siren]

I've tried both evoker, outlaw, frost Mage, bm, mm, feral, balance, unholy

[viscid remnant]

I can ask mattiu to help you

[stray sigil]

u cant invoke the wallahi like that

wallahi is only for truth

[clear pulsar]

Hunter specs are all lame as shit rn

[stray sigil]

so u better not be meming

[clear pulsar]

It's tough

Lmao no I'm serious

I'm not a liar man

[halcyon siren]

I just don't know what else to try

[stray sigil]

u keep it a b uck

[clear pulsar]

100

[stray sigil]

try fdk or ww

[halcyon siren]

Spriest arms are on my radar

[stray sigil]

glass cannon specs

[halcyon siren]

Enh on my radar it was okay on beta

[clear pulsar]

Shadow priest is prob cool but a bit of a passenger princess

[velvet quest]

Warrior is hard cause you have to remember when you spear someone you shouldn’t give them precog immediately or else they’ll walk out of it

[stray sigil]

enh is also like fdk or ww

but ur not glass canon

[clear pulsar]

Spr on beta was fun at least, I think it's what I'd level to play DPS rn

[late wraith]

Truuuuuuuue

[halcyon siren]

I think warrior might just be too hard for me unironically idk

[clear pulsar]

Only for jenius

[stray sigil]

ok if warrior too hard maybe dont go enh

[halcyon siren]

Playing class with 1 defensive

[clear pulsar]

Have you tried ret @halcyon siren

[halcyon siren]

No

[velvet quest]

Play ww it’s the most rerollable melee

[stray sigil]

ret would be a good one but its kinda slow

[clear pulsar]

It's like simple straight forward damage with an OP kit that you could find fun

[stray sigil]

going from ww to ret

sometimes u have downtime

on ur rotation

feels very weirdge

[astral rune]

are you giving up on feral?

[vocal pollen]

play ret with a shaman and you will never have downtime

[halcyon siren]

I'm giving up on midnight man

[stray sigil]

also ret is beyond op in shuffle

so ud have fujn

[halcyon siren]

All dps are boring slogs

[clear pulsar]

I think from the POV of like an easy to pick up spec that feels impactful and like you progress on how well you play it cuz of the utility usage, ret is pretty nice

[stray sigil]

sorta feel like a feral ina way

[clear pulsar]

WW you probably will do 5 DPS for 2 weeks

[stray sigil]

dmg is easy

[astral rune]

I haven't queued in a couple of weeks but my mmr was at like 1.9k haven't seen how it's been

[halcyon siren]

Maybe I'm unironically just all in on rdruid

[late wraith]

Ret is my intro to melee I’m dipping the toe in by playing the ranged melee

[stray sigil]

idt dmg is super hard

but its diff and like

if ur not aware u justy die instantly

[astral rune]

been pveing since guild finally hit mythic

[clear pulsar]

Not exactly but it's not as straight forward as Ret and you dont have immune button

To press and stay alive doing your shit

[stray sigil]

karma

[clear pulsar]

[astral rune]

I miss old feral range

[stray sigil]

thats why i feel like ww is fun

cuz u have to kite

[astral rune]

ret is a good choice for ranged melee

[stray sigil]

and play decent defensively

ur not bailed out by ur kit

cuz ur kit is dogshit

[clear pulsar]

That is also rdru

Real?

[stray sigil]

[halcyon siren]

I'm mostly looking for characters with a bit of rotational interest but they took all rotational interest out of my previous mains (feral, bm, demo, warrior seems unchanged but I haven't played it since bfa)

[stray sigil]

40% wall 1 min cd

U PIG

USABLE IN STUN

[clear pulsar]

But thats not an issue

Its other people dying

And I dont have any outs for CC

[stray sigil]

ww is olnly spec in game with a fun rotation

cuz its not a rotation

[clear pulsar]

Or CC immunes

Like all other heal pigs

[halcyon siren]

Even devoker lost rotational interest and it was already bare bones

It's insane

[clear pulsar]

WW didnt lose practically anything, only like random 1-off abilities you'd use once a minute

[halcyon siren]

Havoc might be rotationally interesting idk, its on my radar too

[stray sigil]

my clash

[clear pulsar]

It got a pretty good transition to midnight

[stray sigil]

now mugambala is unplayable

its real

[clear pulsar]

Hate mugambala

[stray sigil]

hate robodrome too

hate sewers

[viscid remnant]

You must be joking

[stray sigil]

hate cage

[clear pulsar]

Only good map is ashamanes

[stray sigil]

peak is decent

tbh

[clear pulsar]

Is peak still in the game?

[velvet quest]

Outlul unironically very similar

[halcyon siren]

Idk I don't know anything about havoc but it was interesting in tww?

[stray sigil]

and hook point

[clear pulsar]

Black rook arena is the worst

By far

[stray sigil]

for no bias reason

[clear pulsar]

Awful place

[stray sigil]

make every arena hook point

real ?

[stray sigil]

outlul has kinda aids shit though

[clear pulsar]

Maybe put a pin on that

[halcyon siren]

Idk rdruid is the only thing with cool flow that I've tried, small rotational cds + interesting dps + abundance interaction is rewarding

But like man, I wanna dps lol

[astral rune]

enigma crucible isn't that fun to play in

[stray sigil]

idm crucible

good port map

i hate sewers cuz its so small

[clear pulsar]

My mouse left click died today

[stray sigil]

and i have problems with port on that one

[clear pulsar]

Mid Dota game

[stray sigil]

PLAY LEAGUE WITH ME

U PIG

[halcyon siren]

I like tigers peak

[clear pulsar]

I cant learn a new game like that man

No shot

[halcyon siren]

Login

[stray sigil]

PIG

I GOT BANNED ON LEAGUE

FOR 7 DAYS

SO WE PLAYH NOOBS

[clear pulsar]

[late wraith]

I kinda love sewers

[clear pulsar]

Crazy

[late wraith]

Just knock them off

[stray sigil]

i said the r word

= insta ban

gotta love shit game like that

[halcyon siren]

If u have previous moba exp its pretty plug and play

[clear pulsar]

Just gotta be creative man

The usual banned words are just boring too

[stray sigil]

im getting griefed and in the heat of the moment

i could not

[astral rune]

play runeuncs together

tob

[late wraith]

Fuji have you tried just not saying it

[velvet quest]

I’m ok with all maps except cage and sometimes robodrome

[stray sigil]

i am playing my f2p iron rn

[late wraith]

Crazy thought

[stray sigil]

he deserved it lol

guy was wasting 9 other peoples time

[clear pulsar]

Last time I got silenced in a game was wow

[late wraith]

Then you deserved your ban little mans

[clear pulsar]

I dont think I have gotten heated in a game since early DF shuffles

[halcyon siren]

My favourite insult is regarded I think, it's just funny,

[stray sigil]

i dont think u should get banned for words in a game

just mute ppl

lol

they do chat restricitons in league

just do that instead

[clear pulsar]

It was season 2 when I was coming off a high in season 1 but resto druid was nerfed into dogshit

[halcyon siren]

Privileged take I fear

[stray sigil]

brother im not saying slurs

ofc ban for that

[halcyon siren]

Getting called a nslur sucks ass if you're not white

[stray sigil]

but like

if i say r word

and i get banned instead of chat restriciton

its a bit stupid

[clear pulsar]

Ngl I think the way americans pick and choose words like that is goofy

[stray sigil]

ye

[astral rune]

focusing on agi rn, finally did a few more quests and finished some diaries, 122 combat is op against those early diaries

[clear pulsar]

I fall in line cuz I'm not a heathen and ofc I don't go around insulting people often anyways

[stray sigil]

wtf are ur stats

are u a nmz fiend

[astral rune]

worse

[vocal pollen]

when are we playing league

[astral rune]

crabs

[halcyon siren]

Listening to the awc casters trying to make this shit seem exciting game to game

[stray sigil]

[halcyon siren]

Is crazy

[vocal pollen]

I plaeyd 2 games of league for the first time in months yday

games weird

[clear pulsar]

Dont do this to yourself

[stray sigil]

well they just did changes again

[clear pulsar]

Find another thing to watch man

[stray sigil]

cuz new ssn

[vocal pollen]

I like dbow item

[clear pulsar]

I mean I get it finally some resto druid gameplay

[vocal pollen]

and omnivamp shoes

[clear pulsar]

It's nice to check out

[velvet quest]

I’m a zed main cause when I downloaded league I thought I might be the next faker

[clear pulsar]

But like man cba really

[vocal pollen]

im a yone irelia main

they nerfed ambessa

[late wraith]

I switched to watching wow Geoguesser

[vocal pollen]

that champ is so ass

[stray sigil]

ofc

ofc

[velvet quest]

And it would be a waste of my talents to start off with an easy champ

[stray sigil]

mayo is a faker fanboy

ofc.

[halcyon siren]

Wish they'd take a page out of the Korean league casters and start talking about pokemon while the game is in a lull state

[late wraith]

Who doesn’t like faker

[vocal pollen]

I always just play what I want to play tbh

[late wraith]

I don’t even go here and I love faker

[clear pulsar]

Very good very good, I love these types of games and seeing other people better than me

[stray sigil]

tehres a diff between liking faker

[vocal pollen]

not really interested in playing the easiest champ to learn and then swapping off or w/e

[stray sigil]

and being one of those

u know this

[clear pulsar]

Legendary, I can talk to you about pokemon while you watch

[stray sigil]

im sure uve seen some twitter posts

of t1 fans

[velvet quest]

Being one of what’s

[stray sigil]

MENTALLY ILL PPL

[clear pulsar]

My current team I climbed out of mordor on is Speed Swap Alolan Raichu based

[late wraith]

Yes for a second I had wall to wall people shipping t1 members lol

[velvet quest]

I make fan art of him that doesn’t make me weird

[vocal pollen]

koreans treat league pros like the biggest celebrities

like taylor swift type

its insane

[stray sigil]

tbf

[astral rune]

esports is huge over there

[stray sigil]

i get it for faker

[astral rune]

different culture

[clear pulsar]

Faker wishes he was the music industry

[stray sigil]

hes def the most like celebrity korean prob

but these ppl are mentally ill

for sure

[viscid remnant]

Its time for the conversation

Faked > taylor swift

Fakr

[stray sigil]

probably yes

faker sings too

i bet he sings better than her

not hard tbf

[viscid remnant]

Can he sing ole ole ole

[clear pulsar]

Ok but she's also a dancer and a rapper

Be real rn

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

Looool

[clear pulsar]

WHATCHU KNOW ABOUT T SWIZLE

[halcyon siren]

I'm mostly waiting for na awc tbh

[clear pulsar]

You dont know man

[halcyon siren]

To watch ftier

[late wraith]

Face baits in a way no one else here is capable of

[stray sigil]

everyones just watign for na

[viscid remnant]

Tbf faker is a fraud because league is like dota but for noobs

[late wraith]

you all wish

[stray sigil]

nobody gives a fuck about eu

even europoors dont

[late wraith]

Real

[halcyon siren]

Real

Like this is slop fr

[viscid remnant]

Caring about "awc"

[astral rune]

don't act like you don't like this kind of unc slop

wow eu awc slop

[late wraith]

This is actually so boring like they just got amped like brunhity was dying so I look at tv. Everyone full health

[halcyon siren]

I mean it's just the same match for 15 rounds

[late wraith]

Like what

What are we amped about here ziqo

[astral rune]

typical sports caster behavior

wcyd

[stray sigil]

just yell to create hype

thats real

[halcyon siren]

That's what I mean man, I wish they'd be like lck league casters and stop capping

[clear pulsar]

Ok but yesterday Carlos Prates beat the shit out of a guy named Madallena

Sports can be goated

[halcyon siren]

And pretending it's interesting

Talk about a random childhood anecdote while we wait for some actual tension

[astral rune]

My Knights made it into the second rd even tho they needed to die off in the 1st

[halcyon siren]

Pls man

[stray sigil]

lck casters actually flame players when they troll

its hilarious

[astral rune]

nhl has the worst broadcasters so it could be worse, awc is better

[halcyon siren]

Lck is my main esport I watch

[late wraith]

Bomb drops nothing happens ziqo just yelling big damage

He walks out full health

[halcyon siren]

[stray sigil]

kinda helps that lck has actual good players

vs eu and na too

[astral rune]

if only wow took off in sk, I remember orangemarmalade on mage

[halcyon siren]

Yeah I watched an lec game earlier just tuned in waiting for awc

Lol

[stray sigil]

koreans play on na now on wow

cuz idt asian wow is real for pvp

[halcyon siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188688510027313243/1500525423518548141/image.png?ex=69f8c0b3&is=69f76f33&hm=2a99bdf6d8170168c1e4ec8f988f6abfcc6fe100368f3c47a278896974c23b0c&

Lec game

[stray sigil]

it slop

[astral rune]

yeah but I meant more so like took off like sc2 or lol

[stray sigil]

its na rn

and its slop

[halcyon siren]

But ya kr league it feels like anybody can win because the teams are all kinda good

Na eu feels like anybody can win because they're all bad

Lmao

[hollow remnant]

has anyone found a fix to properly display rdruid hots on raidframes after the 12.0.5 change that made more debuffs show?

debuffs overlapping into hots now making it hard to see

[clear pulsar]

Any of the raid frame addons most pveers use would work for that

There are probably less robust solutions too ig

[hollow remnant]

any recommendation? don't want to tweak too much from the base UI, just want to limit the amount of debuffs shown if thats possible

feel like some new UI element breaks every patch lmao

[clear pulsar]

Hm not sure

BetterBlizzFrames maybe

@grand mesa addon guy do something about this pls

[hollow remnant]

have it already, idk what happened in 12.0.5

for some reason just way more debuffs showing on frames than before lol

[clear pulsar]

Bro just does it for the love of the game

[hollow remnant]

ty for advice tho 🫡

[clear pulsar]

Yeah idk another addon that would do just that without replacing/editing the whole raid frame

Maybe puzzle does tho

[bitter warren]

insane AWC series

[halcyon siren]

Yeah it was crazy the rmd won

[grand mesa]

they fucked it up lol

idk if there's an easy fix

[hollow remnant]

[grand mesa]

seems p unplayable for rdruid

tbh just make shit really small lol

thats waht i did cause 5 debuffs in a row is demonic

there are addons that let u edit the size of debuffs and buffs individually can look into that

[halcyon siren]

Pog conc root very useful info!!!

I guess that one might be useful for monk pala etc

[hollow remnant]

gonna try

[grand mesa]

Everyone channel their energy and root for f tier

[halcyon siren]

Fr

I've been am ftier fan for a long time tbh

They popped tf off yesterday

I think if Dallas could play ret and laros could play something else their team could be very strong

Like Dallas needs 1 more melee like drake has multi melees

[clear pulsar]

Chan has gotten better on the panel

[halcyon siren]

Ziqo is the worst panelist now yeah

So they're all watchable now

Like ziqo isn't bad either

And brings character and some funny sayings like song of gg

Most recently

[clear pulsar]

All the work of my goat host

[halcyon siren]

Yeah eiya is the best host awc has ever had

[clear pulsar]

I wonder how healingstat is doing

Every now and again I wish he'd show up on the panel again

Maybe at blizzcon

[stray sigil]

isnt she the only host awc ever had

[halcyon siren]

Like even though she isn't r1 knowledgeable on the game

Nah

Rich Campbell etc

[clear pulsar]

She's only been hosting since like DF no?

[stray sigil]

wasnt rich a caster too

hardly host

[halcyon siren]

One other one iirc but I was pretty inactive

[stray sigil]

i think shes the only true host

awc had

[clear pulsar]

Bruh

Rich was exclusively a host

Eiya did some casting early on and was terrible at it

[stray sigil]

when was rich even in

legion or what

[halcyon siren]

Rich had less game knowledge than eita and was a career host

[stray sigil]

i didnt watch until super late bfa

and i dont remember rich

[halcyon siren]

For other games too

[clear pulsar]

Rich was a good host tho, he did great in the few dota tournaments he did before he got canceled too

[halcyon siren]

Yeah he was charismatic

[stray sigil]

why are they glazing gator

when they almost lost a block

lol

[clear pulsar]

Hm up until covid start for sure at least

He stopped mid covid times

[halcyon siren]

NERF STONEFORM!!!!

[stray sigil]

ye idk might have been when i started watching he stopped

idr how it even was b4 eyia host

was it just ziqo supa ven

[clear pulsar]

They also had dif casters on and off before

Joefernandes

[halcyon siren]

Dallas is actually so much dmg on feral, like

It makes me feel so noob lowkey

Blah blah comparison etc joy.

Maybe I actually try to vod review this season idk

[clear pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/doesn't-get-it-gif-11969878697861392921

[stray sigil]

get dn

did they change something about rdru mana this xpac

i forgor

[halcyon siren]

[grand mesa]

Sterge going on and on about the clear diff between druid mains like kubzy and all the alt reroll rdruid shit we watched in EU

[halcyon siren]

Ftier

[stray sigil]

answer me now face

NOW.

[clear pulsar]

This gators team would get dogwalked by Echo or BK or Streamerzone tho

Feels like empty talking point based on reputation

Uh if they changed mana, idk, less Clearcast procs from not having 2x Lifebloom

[grand mesa]

They nerfed MS from TWW version no?

but DF -> TWW was a bit buff

[clear pulsar]

And pressing WG on cd is rough on mana but other spells got removed so prob a net 0

[grand mesa]

LOL

@stray sigil

ELE

ELE

that had to have been a fat earth shock

[astral rune]

wow ll

[stray sigil]

brtuh

hes just greedy and bad

he had time

lol

[grand mesa]

We gonna see the dbl outlaw now?

[stray sigil]

no

that wasjuts brainlag

[grand mesa]

85k earth shock

[stray sigil]

half a rwk

[halcyon siren]

23k overkill

[stray sigil]

dont look at overkill

u dont add that to the dmg

[grand mesa]

I don’t hit for anything 85k on my enh

[halcyon siren]

Why not

[stray sigil]

wrong play ytempest

[grand mesa]

Stormbringer tempest?

[stray sigil]

the overkill dmg doesnt mean anything

[grand mesa]

ele stormbringer?

[halcyon siren]

Double outlul

[grand mesa]

those tempests can hit for over 200k

@stray sigil kneel

[halcyon siren]

Ele looking kinda fun tbh

[stray sigil]

kneel wat pig

[grand mesa]

it’s dbl outlul

[stray sigil]

i hit 170k last night on my bad gear ww

[halcyon siren]

Damn melees fir 12k

Poggggg

[stray sigil]

[chrome panther]

sick game dude

imagine a world where rogue/mage ceased to exist

[tropic schooner]

are those stats across all teams?

[stray sigil]

thats eu

[clear pulsar]

Damn RMD is the only variant that has lost

Buff rdru

[halcyon siren]

Dead w coccoon

[stray sigil]

they play small cocoon

for mana tea

its not a real defensive

[velvet quest]

If rogue/mage stopped existing then all the one tricks for the easy classes would get hard diffed by the better players rerolling from rogue/mage

[halcyon siren]

Lmao

[stray sigil]

everyone ignore mayos 2/10 ragebait

real ?

[late wraith]

Looool

You know he’s giggling to himself

[velvet quest]

Remember when feral spriest hpal was the meta and then all the best teams were just rogue mains rerolling to feral lol

[halcyon siren]

That's kind of real tbh

[late wraith]

Famous reroller Axtin

[halcyon siren]

I think the problem with that time though was more

[stray sigil]

best team in na was kawhi

and drake is a ww main

[halcyon siren]

All the best casters played with rogues

[tropic schooner]

absolutely true, thats because there is no good player who has ever played feral

[stray sigil]

therefore mayo is wrong

[halcyon siren]

Like why would any caster awc competitor want to play with a non rogue main

[late wraith]

Mayo’s just trying to keep chat active between games

It was an attempt. Not a good one but an attempt

[stray sigil]

say it how it is granny

it was a terrible attempt

be blunt about ur pig.

[late wraith]

Not his best

Too obvious and no one was pre mad

you need people to be pre mad

[halcyon siren]

Saul ret...I believe bud

[grand mesa]

LFG lardos

[clear pulsar]

Gotta play the long game

Keep it a buck for years

[late wraith]

My husband is best ragebaiter dg

he does it correct. Has no real stake in it, never takes a side, strikes out of absolutely nowhere when the fight is already brewing

[grand mesa]

Noooo dude

[stray sigil]

i thought u guys divorced

u pigs are lying to us

[late wraith]

the papers are unsigned

[stray sigil]

what is ven saying

ofc they know they can run this

what

man i hate these casters

[velvet quest]

Only rogue mains would be good enough to play ret warr perfectly idk what f tier was thinking

[halcyon siren]

Real

[stray sigil]

@late wraith hes getting really bad at this

he needs coaching maybe

[halcyon siren]

Rogues doing 25percent more dmg 'I feel like they should have lost to ret war'

[stray sigil]

they should have though

[late wraith]

Have they not done any in between puzzles yet

[stray sigil]

if thats drake ret

they dont lose

[halcyon siren]

Ya probably

[late wraith]

I want to guess who’s house production has built

[stray sigil]

what are u saying granny

[late wraith]

mfer doesn’t actually watch the whole show

[halcyon siren]

I like the emoji one too

[velvet quest]

Bad at what? You can disagree with my opinions if you want that doesn’t mean I’m wrong

[halcyon siren]

And the spell guesser

[late wraith]

Emoji one I am so good at

Which one of the spell icons is wrong I’m also okay at

The knock out words in the spell tooltip I am miserable at

[halcyon siren]

I'm bad at the house one because I'm not a super fan

[velvet quest]

Yes Drake and nick can play ret warr perfectly cause they’re both rogue mains, that’s my point

[stray sigil]

drake rogue main

@late wraith hes bad now

he used to be creative at it

now hes just mediocre

[halcyon siren]

Drake is a feral main 8)

[chrome panther]

focus step kick is the ultimate skill expression guys

[late wraith]

why are you tagging me his rage baiting is not my business

We do not competitive rage bait as a team

[stray sigil]

hes ur pig

ur responsability

[velvet quest]

Drake is listed as rogue under all the Kalvish tier lists I’ve watched idk why you think he’s something else

[late wraith]

he’s my stun kitten but not my responsibility

[halcyon siren]

That was a ridiculous sentence.

[stray sigil]

beavs also his clone kitten

[late wraith]

What sentence was ridiculous all of the past hour have been pretty bad ngl

[halcyon siren]

Ya hate to see it

[stray sigil]

i never do bad sentences

excuse u

[velvet quest]

You can’t even spell half your words right if they’re more than 5 letters. How are your sentences good

[stray sigil]

sentence is more than 5 letters

dumb pig

gg ez

[velvet quest]

50% winrate gg

[stray sigil]

how

[late wraith]

lol

[grand mesa]

We are both responsible for our respective stun kittens

[late wraith]

That’s true

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

How did we end up here puzzle

[grand mesa]

No clue

But here we are

[stray sigil]

alright put the pres

in the bag

[grand mesa]

Our stunner’s keepers

[stray sigil]

and get off that spec

[clear pulsar]

Thats what you get for being the only functional adults in the channel

[stray sigil]

holy fuck

3-0

go next

mayos goat is not the goat

[grand mesa]

We need liquid knocked out then f tier guaranteed top 3 no gauntlet I think

[late wraith]

Someone tell dire wolves to try boomy sub

[stray sigil]

someone tell em to prac more and less gamba

they have 0 pressure

here comes

the 2v3

for am inute

bunch of cringe fuckers

[grand mesa]

Time for lord mes

[stray sigil]

play what

cdew being a priest/pres/sham only merchant

is not a good thing rn

[grand mesa]

I think we see cbrew

[stray sigil]

cbrew mirror vs zhang

[clear pulsar]

Why dont they go double ww

[stray sigil]

ww is weak

needs buffs

[astral rune]

true buff ww and feral

[chrome panther]

buff warrior

[clear pulsar]

Tough, next week warriors just shit on monk even harder than rogue does

[stray sigil]

[chrome panther]

cant wait ngl

slayer is so much more fun than colo

bladestorm actual button

[stray sigil]

ye prob is if u go slayer u can die

so

[chrome panther]

yeah the colo 5% dmg reduct goes hard

[grand mesa]

Liquid is doing it

[stray sigil]

dont u get a heal

and dr cuz of demolish

u pig

[chrome panther]

u get more fbv healing ig

cuz demo deep wounds

slayer has alot more mobility though

[misty shuttle]

I really can't decide whether I prefer feral or boomie :S

[random patrol]

prob feral

[untold tapir]

bommie 1 hund o this season

feral playstyle atm is built for pve and super high rated 3s

if u get ccd during fury ur basically goonin till its back up

sitting slows all game

ferals kinda fun in 2s tho but still not even S tier its like mid high a

Peep this boomkin solo shuffle build tho

i looked at the top 10 boomeies, ran everything thru google ai and testing

i think this is the best build

Not getting alot of sunseeker procs tho idk

[velvet quest]

What does google ai say about rejuv? Gotta be bis if it says so

[late wraith]

Bommie 1 hund o this season

What was the google ai testing. Like how did the tests get run. What were the parameters of the test.

[misty shuttle]

what does 1 hund o mean

[clear pulsar]

Gonna have to ask google ai that

[stray sigil]

why did they blind ret war

[random patrol]

beep boop polywog

remove corruption and solar beam flex talents

you swap between bash and incap depending as well

also be sure to download bird facts

increases dps by 0.00000000000001 percent

in other news dragged my 40k ork army our of storage

that i all

[clear pulsar]

Sheeeesh

Does it compound if I download multiple?

[random patrol]

yes

you get an editional 0.00000000000001 percent if you enable the fake facts option

yw

[untold tapir]

i find it useless with dampening. Unless they let us cast it in form idk

its okay maybe in low rated shuffle but later on u need those gcds

if ur casting rejuvs losing momentum its not good

[velvet quest]

Then why does your best build include rejuv

[untold tapir]

and Swapping mass entang for vortex is big

[velvet quest]

Also can you clarify what’s considered low rated shuffle and what’s high rated shuffle

[untold tapir]

so many people canget out of ur root beam now

[untold tapir]

for the current , id say anything over 2100 or 2150

i mean i run it but i dont find myself using it that much

ur gcds are better used on casting roots on a meele or something

[late wraith]

What was the ai testing

you didn’t answer that

[velvet quest]

Oh nice so you’re doing 2100+ shuffle as boomkin. There’s not many people here really pushing boomkin shuffle so it’ll be nice to have your pov on stuff

[untold tapir]

lol thats just my way of saying i spent an hour full mad hater asking different things

[late wraith]

can you share some of what you asked google ai about this build

[untold tapir]

google ai has really good data for arena

[late wraith]

better than murlok that just shows what top players are running? Crazy if true

[untold tapir]

i asked it about dmg numbers between denzien

goldrin

[late wraith]

oh yeah what did it say

[velvet quest]

Do you push high rated arenas too or just shuffles

[untold tapir]

sunseeker vs wild

na, i got 2.2 on mm in cata and havnt ever really tried to push it

u need friends

i pushed 2s tho decent amount

[untold tapir]

we agreed guldrin is shit

[late wraith]

you and who

Google ai?

[untold tapir]

denzein is staple tho imo

yeah google. chat gpt is as good for wow

[late wraith]

in your o or in google’s o

[untold tapir]

or games in general

isnt*

astral comunion is also bis

not sure why some arnt running it

Also fury of elune is meh

[velvet quest]

1 hund o

[untold tapir]

i dropped the 3 points

2*

the only issue is i wish i could drop another point in total eclipse

[late wraith]

What did google have to say about astral communion

[untold tapir]

we agreed burst right now is better than rot. Astral communion is crazy for burst

[late wraith]

Who agreed

[untold tapir]

so u take as many rot talents u can get away with

lol ai

[late wraith]

You and chat gpt?

[velvet quest]

If google has really good data for wow arena does it do a numerical breakdown to explain why talents are stronger?

[untold tapir]

no gemini

[late wraith]

So like you and chat gpt talked about the ap gain and chat gpt was like “I agree with you”

Oh

My bad

[untold tapir]

it does the best it can

[velvet quest]

Did ChatGPT disagree with you? How does it know so much less about wow arenas than Gemini and yourself

[untold tapir]

u have to go into ai knowing some of what ur asking

the only time it gets stuff wrong i noticed is when it gets confused which season

[late wraith]

where do you think Gemini gets its information

[untold tapir]

i always put midnight s1 in every prompt

constant remind it

he has access to see what everyone is running too

[velvet quest]

Gemini probably gets really good data from the 1400s posting in blizzard forums that’s true

[untold tapir]

blizz website

[late wraith]

Blizz website huh

[untold tapir]

it wasnt using forums

[halcyon siren]

this conversation goes fucking HARD

Joy to spectate.

[velvet quest]

If the main purpose of ai is to provide a summary of what people are running, what benefit does that give over just looking at murlok and copying what most of the top players run?

[untold tapir]

honestly its better for helping u with quests or fixing ur ai

[halcyon siren]

I want him to be a 2100 boomie in shuffle so bad

I can't lie

[untold tapir]

but if ur talking talents

thats math

[halcyon siren]

I hope that's true

so badly

[untold tapir]

if u ask it how to hit glad

[halcyon siren]

that'd be so fucking funny

[untold tapir]

its only gunna give u basic shit

[late wraith]

yeah man if you’re 2100 getting there on Gemini prompts then bless

[untold tapir]

but some golden nugggets

well test the talents for urself then

guldrin doesnt even show up on meters tho

it gets baked into ur starsurge

[velvet quest]

I wish I could hit 2100 in shuffle

[late wraith]

Well of course it doesn’t because no one runs goldrinn

[untold tapir]

play bm lol

[late wraith]

So where would Gemini get its information from

[untold tapir]

there is 2 people in top 10 that had it on

maybe testing it idk

[late wraith]

Probably

[untold tapir]

is anyones trinket tracker not working?

in sarena

[velvet quest]

I feel like Kalvish should ask Gemini rn what comp he should play to counter Jung in this blind pick

[late wraith]

Fr

Could you ping them maybe? Do you think Gemini knows that?

[untold tapir]

we got some ai haters

[velvet quest]

I’ll raise this issue to my higher ups and make sure he hears. Thank you

[late wraith]

I’m not a hater I’m curious

About what you’re getting from this that you wouldn’t get from just looking at murlok and reading the talents

[untold tapir]

its not like ur asking ai for the answer and thats the answer

its more like support

[late wraith]

it agrees with you

[untold tapir]

u take the info, test urself, and tweak

[velvet quest]

Yeah I’m trying to be better I feel like I’ve been wasting my time not using ai I’d prob be 2100 if I just used it to make me a better build idk

[late wraith]

It’s moral support

[untold tapir]

na math support

i made a new macro with it

[late wraith]

Math support. Sure okay

Oh

Can we see the macro

[untold tapir]

ok

i asnked snupy he dont have it

[late wraith]

oh crazy

[untold tapir]

#showtooltip Cyclone
/cancelform [noform:4]
/cast [mod:shift,@focus] Cyclone; Cyclone

it makes ur clone out of bear faster and not bug out

you can put it on rejuv etc

it doesnt need to be a focus shift i just use often

[late wraith]

Damn Gemini came up with cancel form macro? Where do you think it learned how to do that

[untold tapir]

im more worried about my trinket tracker tho tbh

anyone else having issues with that

[late wraith]

Ask Gemini

[untold tapir]

its not a cancel form macro its different

its better

[late wraith]

Oh

[vocal pollen]

[random patrol]

I mixed up alleria and valeera

in my defense all elves are the same

[late wraith]

They’re related

They’re sisters it’s not that weird

[random patrol]

a windrunner is a windrunner

their all about the same imo

[late wraith]

One of them has an undercut though and the other has like bloodelf pretty girl hair so.

[random patrol]

to be fair though elves are tech trolls

so it's a troll expac

[clear pulsar]

I love how you guys got homeboy stringed along saying he and the llm model agreed on everything

Next time he should go to akinator and if it gets Goldrinn right that means the Goldrinn talent is good

[livid wasp]

where did you find my picture

[late wraith]

Him and Gemini agreed that his cancel form is different from other cancel forms

[chrome panther]

AWOOO is the best talent in the game

[random patrol]

dog is best dog

[random patrol]

did an epic bg was wg offense alliance half the raid stopped on the way to our base to fight a guardian druid

which cost us to loose the first team fight and then 30 people left

don't really care of course but was hillarious to watch

good bear

for the horde

(less prob guardian druid then more pro horde and don't stop to fight a tank in epics though it does stop people all the time)

[solid tangle]

Anyone notice early spring bug? Everytime i hit wild growth with a bm hunter or unholy DK and their pets near the target, it removes lifebloom from whatever target has it.

really cucks me when i have to reapply it to get blooming frenzy heal and it isnt at 3 stacks anymore

[random patrol]

@vocal pollen cat got in ceiling in basement(hole in drywall)

was an oversight I didnt think he was part squirrel

working on getting him out

good kitty

[safe heart]

i tried to ping 10 people earlier and got banned

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

[grand mesa]

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[random patrol]

tldr I'm letting him stay in there cause really nowhere for him to go and he's still scared and he can go in and out easily(cat)

[vocal pollen]

dont let him die

[random patrol]

a good cat is one that puts up a challenge

@vocal pollen he's coming in and out of it

[vocal pollen]

I agree

adversity breeds characters

character

a wise man said the hottest forges create the strongest blades

[random patrol]

so he's just an arse

good

once I can confirm he's out I will seal the wall up right away(remove object that allowed him to jump into it first)

[stray sigil]

[random patrol]

still the greatest thing ever

[vocal pollen]

its real

[stray sigil]

[viscid remnant]

Its true

[halcyon siren]

lmfao

you know, when you said you were gunna ping everybody you know and didn't ping anybody, i thought it was a clever little self depreciating joke