i can tell you exactly
#pvp
clear pulsar
You arent good enough to have an opinion actually
stray sigil
have 0 idea
ur just seeing dmg
and qqin
but u dont know what should be nerfed
ive said from day 1
what shoulda gotten nerfed
but blissard are idiots and keep nerfing zenith and abilities
clear pulsar
stray sigil
literally wont matter
grand mesa
All I’m saying is
Whaaz said ww is the real op spec and we all thought it was rogue gaslighting
Logs into ww, hasn’t played it all tournament. Wins in 90s. Wins it all. Logs out
chrome panther
ur just seeing dmg
yeah see so at my mmr, thats the issue
and thats what ill call out
🙂
clear pulsar
Yeah I'd rather watch the finals match than whatever this is rn
Outlaw should be in tank pig tier
stray sigil
can qq about ww but atleast its not 10min games
but i swear fire into ww is just sussy
werent they all playing frost in ww last 2 days
and it looked awful
clear pulsar
Who had comp advantage?
stray sigil
when do u mean
i just vaguely remember outlul frost being more played
than fire outlul
stray sigil
Fire burst is crazy
ppl dont wanna play frost into fire now cuz of ray and mass
but like idk
karma a nice button id say
lasted a whole .1s
clear pulsar
safe heart
Spr is busted
stray sigil
tulip falcon
queue and face the same exploiting evo on eots again
instantly dcing whoever picks up the flag
sick
livid wasp
who is it
safe heart
Fuji is ww spr the better version of victim cleave
livid wasp
meme bracket blizz doesnt care to get him banned for bug abusing
tulip falcon
i was fighting at eots with a ret after we capped it then suddenly the ret is gone
livid wasp
I need to start playing again maybe ill see him some day
tulip falcon
yea
kinda annoying cos ive been enjoying wow but that bracket is unplayable
and theres not really any point in doing any other bracket when its deflated
not sure how i even go about recovering my main's bricked elo
clear pulsar
Does neural silencer work on rescue?
tulip falcon
rescue is the friendly one
swoop up is the enemy one
no idea what hes actually doing though
safe heart
the we both die cleave
They literally can't kill all of us
stray sigil
unique remnant
Can someone help me with tracking my rejuv and lifebloom like how can I make them alert me when they fall off or about to?
vocal pollen
you can make a lifebloom sound alert when it expires in the cdm but I dont think that exists for rejuv
late wraith
Yeah
grand mesa
vocal pollen
is ww strong
grand mesa
Guys I think monk is a strong class thoughts
vocal pollen
u might be on to something
tiny oar
Guys I think monk is a strong class thoughts
I think you might be right just maybe
tiny oar
kubzy on current mw sounds like a fucking warlord man
grand mesa
Stream I’ll watch
astral rune
hmm mw/ww v mw/ww
grand mesa
You are now a content creator with your qe videos
vocal pollen
lmfao
grand mesa
You have obligations
vocal pollen
u know it did kinda work
grand mesa
To your fans
vocal pollen
I've gotten a few comments on my frames and about resto
grand mesa
And haters
astral rune
I would be a phasedruid viewer and enjoyer
vocal pollen
altho I kinda ignore all of them
its all like
"can u teach me how to play your spec entirely through a youtube comment"
like no man I cant
astral rune
lmao
vocal pollen
LMAO
grand mesa
farmmmmm the clicks
vocal pollen
I dont have the asmr kinda voice sadly
I promised nax I'd do a cam stream if we killed tonight
grand mesa
Okay this is an insane match
it’s so twitch fps
@stray sigil ww 4-0’d the finals
It’s not looking good for you
astral rune
jokes on us, blizz buffs monk after this
velvet quest
both region finals had the rogue main swapping to ww to try to beat the other team's ww. interesting i think rogue is still sandbagging and ww is just a low mmr noobstomper tho
thats what ive been hearing
random patrol
#nerfmw
grand mesa
I do wonder how meta changes when/if mw gets demolished and every 100-0 in 2s cd can’t be matched with a cocoon
astral rune
speaking of aug
https://fxtwitter.com/0ix4x/status/2043071722841100590
FxTwitter
grand mesa
probably becomes just an fps atp
clear pulsar
Rooting for you to wipe a lot
tiny oar
YEA BUD IM LOOKING AT IT
stray sigil
vocal pollen
@stray sigil we did it
stray sigil
wat is it that i did
vocal pollen
not u piggy
me and everyone with me
@grand mesa I did 0 healing on this godforsaken boss 
unique remnant
That’s through I feel like healing this season especially shuffle is so painful
grand mesa
<@139195873224556545> I did 0 healing on this godforsaken boss <:KEKL:1082744446...
ur shaman looked like he was doing good
send logs immediately
vocal pollen
I might be siting beloren
grand mesa
grand mesa
3 heal man
goddamnit
ill probably end up ele for that one ig
big boom boom burst
on egg
vocal pollen
ye ele is giga
tiny oar
DREAM TEAM
grand mesa
big comp
vocal pollen
@grand mesa
grand mesa
ty
random patrol
vocal pollen
whats that
random patrol
burger
vocal pollen
never had ostritch eggs or meat but I dont think I want to try either
vocal pollen
interesting
random patrol
Ill eat whatever is served to me
eat first ask later
prob will cost me someday but fuck it I munch
vocal pollen
respectable
I value quanity of food more than quality tbh
even if its very mediocre as long as theres a lot of its its all good
random patrol
they should give people that don't kill their orelings that prevents flying for 24 hours
that is all
or just let me mine other peoples orelings
do it
halcyon siren
@stray sigil @velvet quest why did blizo play vulpera
as ww
watching the matches rn
stray sigil
<@142673512987885568> <@717490613083177053> why did blizo play vulpera
good vs demo
halcyon siren
ye after i asked i thought about it
new minions each proc nose for trouble
smart
just watched g7, sad man
vocal pollen
gapplebees
random patrol
@vocal pollen wallace's giant bee
vocal pollen
oh I've never seen that before
thats cool
I'm very unaware when it comes to diffferent types of bees tbh
all I know is my favorite kind is the bumblebee....
very basic choice again
random patrol
these ones live with termites
wierd bee
#weeatbees
that's a meme subreddit don't actually eat bees
vocal pollen
@grand mesa I tried playing music for u on stream for once and instantly got hit by a copyright thing
vocal pollen
that's a meme subreddit don't actually eat bees
yes I can imagine....
bees are incredible though
vocal pollen
one of my professors in college was a hobby beekeeper and whenever he gave me a ride he had those big beehive boxes in the bag seat
and also an obscene amount of weed
his car always smelled like weed
vocal pollen
yes wasps are psychos
random patrol
give druids bee flight form you cowards
random patrol
trying to buy some new clothes everything is either sold out in my size or wrong color or both
good
this classic wow datamined thing if only that was a druid form
vocal pollen
I need to buy new clothes.... try new styles etc
I've never seen that before, where is it from even
grand mesa
<@139195873224556545> I tried playing music for u on stream for once and instant...
I can show u how to set it up properly with audio channels
vocal pollen
yeah sure
halcyon siren
all other brackets obscured for obvious reasons.
late wraith
I can show u how to set it up properly with audio channels
I need this too I forgor
All my shid gets copywrit when I’m vibing out to Madonna and Ariana
vocal pollen
davider my mental is already in a very bad spot right now please dont rile me up
viscid remnant
Tough luck
vocal pollen
viscid remnant
Did u see the clip of someone doing a kululululu at sabrina carpenter
And she was so confused
Lemao
viscid remnant
It popped up in my instagram reels
halcyon siren
<:OMEGALUL:424038577329012736>
- surely i am not hard stuck at 1650 in every other bracket forever
viscid remnant
Damn near burned the bean
tardy hare
8) surely i am not hard stuck at 1650 in every other bracket *forever*
I'd never suspect such a thing
halcyon siren
bro it makes me feel so bad, like i legit cannot play this game
all i can do is kill noobs 1v1 and take their base...
tardy hare
all i can do is kill noobs 1v1 and take their base...
That's a necessary skill for blitz though
halcyon siren
yeah but i want to play the game better as a whole
just feel lost and zdps noob in arena
tulip falcon
yea im kinda in the position of where i want to play and am enjoying the pvp gameplay itself but queueing any ranked bracket seems kinda pointless
i did one shuffle last night and went 6-0 now im scared to queue cos i gained like 300 mmr
tulip falcon
and its also like whats the point cos i got all the rewards free from blitz
wont get anything from shuff
tardy hare
and its also like whats the point cos i got all the rewards free from blitz
This is always biggest pain
When you got all rewards
Queueing feels irrelevant
tulip falcon
ye unless ur going for legend or glad its like who cares
they really fucked up the reward structure in this game
maybe its time to retire and stand in durotar all day but decline every duel request
thats what ppl do right
tardy hare
maybe its time to retire and stand in durotar all day but decline every duel req...
That's the gamer move
But you do need a fat mount, title and CR for that
And a cool transmog
grand mesa
Happy tuning day where mw rogue and mage eat the dirt !!!
halcyon siren
ye unless ur going for legend or glad its like who cares
ya i want to legend and glad this season for sure, i want to OWN hard enough to get there,
but i am seriously so ratmode and noob
it's harsh
like i queued 1 shuff earlier
and i was just helpless, this unholy dk
was so obviously going 6-0
and i just have no idea where i even begin in preventing him from going 6-0
last season glad player but it was so textbook for him, EVERYTHING died on second army
every round was 1min 45sec because he just ran the lobby and i am braingapped because i have no idea how to prevent that
halcyon siren
Happy tuning day where mw rogue and mage eat the dirt !!!
prayging
looking at awc bracket, on NA the only non-mage non-rogue non-monk specs played were ret/hunter (shit on)
like how sad is that
warlock ele feral dev played in eu at least
but na was just pathetic and boring to watch
you see one match you've seen them all
literally nerf mw into unplayability while they fix it it's so unfun
grand mesa
i think
everyone is gonan explode when/if MW goes away and every 100-0 in 2s go isn't matched with a coco
now idk what that feels like i get healed by an rdruid, but some of ya'll are gonna see some shit
unironically i usually hate when the op specs say don't nerf ME buff everyone ELSE. but i kinda think its justified here. or increase stam with trinket bonus if you bonk MW. idk
halcyon siren
yeah maybe, i have played only with hpriest, disc, hpal
but i've obv seen mw and it's just like
game warping
but idk maybe bring mw down and bring everybody up too because i see your point about people kinda just
like that unholy dk match shuffle iplayed had no mw
and everybody died in 1min 45sec to dk dam
sure call it a skill issue but also it's a pacing issue too maybe
halcyon siren
I'll tell you straight tho bringing every healer to MWE
wuold make me log so quick
healers being that strong is legit so boring
agree that maybe more stam is the answer
grand mesa
Hallmark of wows class design for this expac is that a lot of your damage is indexed into cds. It’s kinda no wonder that arena is as bursty as it is
grand mesa
like that unholy dk match shuffle iplayed had no mw
I bet that unholy was licking his lips when he saw the lobby
It’s almost auto lose for dk against mw. Mw just takes way of the frame and spins and its party loh over and over again
halcyon siren
yeah again, i just wish i knew how to stop it because again, it was so obvious he was 6-0ing from the first 2 rounds, i ALMOST took a game off him but i think pala incap cleared mine + boomies dots on rogue at 10percent
or something cleared his dots idr
but even then, he still ran the lobby
wanton ridge
Hallmark of wows class design for this expac is that a lot of your damage is ind...
that also sucks in pve, if you fuck up during cds for any reason, you may as well afk for 2 minutes
halcyon siren
just feel noob and clueless on how to prevent it
halcyon siren
Hallmark of wows class design for this expac is that a lot of your damage is ind...
i mean this was tww in a nutshell, and i feel there is a LOT more diversity in cd profiles now at least with more 30sec, more 90sec, more 1min classes,
mage bein 1min etc
and some classes like dev seem to crank rotationally on their empower spells,
etc
but ye
as feral also feel pretty flat which i am enjoying,
grand mesa
I don’t think TWW was quite this way. Rotational or medium cd damage was way higher. Think there’s bigger peaks and valleys with midnight
halcyon siren
i have my 30sec but i feel much stronger outside of incarn overall
than i did in tww
but obviously not god in incarn
anymore
grand mesa
Like MM was trueshot but also explosive shot was nuclear every 45
seems kinda easier to script this season
halcyon siren
yeah my 45sec frenzy + bees felt okay in tww,
and when i memed on marks explosive + volley
felt like good dmg
marks feels like ass this season though
because that was removed
grand mesa
that also sucks in pve, if you fuck up during cds for any reason, you may as wel...
Very venthyr boomkin pulled
wanton ridge
i hated that build so much lol
grand mesa
I’m leveling 4th shaman soon
halcyon siren
83 rn
grand mesa
My warband needs to be all blue
halcyon siren
i am gunna try and do 2 but i might do a third too for nightelf racial
grand mesa
Dranei shaman named bonnieblue I think is the plan
viscid remnant
tiny oar
Dranei shaman named bonnieblue I think is the plan
GOOD NAME
grand mesa
Ty ty
tulip falcon
But you do need a fat mount, title and CR for that
a lot of people whisper me about how much they are jealous of the wod s1 elite set i use
if they arent asking if im thyraz
tardy hare
a lot of people whisper me about how much they are jealous of the wod s1 elite s...
Yeee thats a great set
tulip falcon
yea its cos its the one season they ever did actual unique armour pieces for elite sets
not just recolours
tulip falcon
rip
tardy hare
But 1 i had a little break from wow
tulip falcon
i think elite was only 2k then as well so it was p easy to get if you played
tardy hare
halcyon siren
a lot of people whisper me about how much they are jealous of the wod s1 elite s...
which sety is that
tardy hare
Wod s1
halcyon siren
what sdoes it look like
tulip falcon
ill screenshot it in a sec
although im using diff legs that kinda match instead of the robe
tardy hare
tulip falcon
cos it has that whole old 2d texture trying to look like 3d thing
grand mesa
Beautiful set
tulip falcon
halcyon siren
i only have priest elite set
tulip falcon
im using these legs with it
grand mesa
Sheesh
tiny oar
absolute unit of a druid
tulip falcon
it goes hard on tauren
only thing i wish i got was the wod challenge mode weapons
i got the set in mop but they basically reused those for the order hall sets
lame af
halcyon siren
i haveg mop mage set only
tulip falcon
pala mop cm set was hard af
livid wasp
why are the tabs in french
tulip falcon
and warr wod s1 elite with the transforming helmet/shoulders
tiny oar
🇫🇷 
tiny oar
halcyon siren
this was wht i wore on my first ssn of druid
i had crazy pve shoulders ider what they had on them
think it was hit rating
this was the first ever druid elite set lol, glad i kept it because it was many moons before transmog
kinda cool to have even tho it's low res dog
stray sigil
crazy ur not perma using wotlk tabards
halcyon siren
they're shit lol
halcyon siren
i got fur rele on wotlk classic
wrathful was my first season on og wrath tho
i was a twink player before then, then mad mains in the gurubashi arena said i would never make it at max level
shit on them in terms of rating ofc but 14 year old me was way more cracked and the avg player was way worse so
this ssns tabard is okay,
stray sigil
its just a flat color
halcyon siren
i like som of th legion ones too
stray sigil
kinda same
halcyon siren
nah not even
tulip falcon
this was the first ever druid elite set lol, glad i kept it because it was many ...
first one i got was the first mop one
u got the king of pvp tabards though
tulip falcon
i was a twink player before then, then mad mains in the gurubashi arena said i w...
those people still exist on the main pvp servers
worse than the afk durotar mains
that whole clique is so weird
people that just stand around all day pretending that they pvp
livid wasp
literally me
tulip falcon
1 person tries to take the chest and they all form a raid group to kill them
halcyon siren
literally me
based
halcyon siren
u got the king of pvp tabards though
i never use it unfort, i might if i played mage still
think the only tabard i use in any transmog currently is actually the tww s2 undermine one lol
halcyon siren
real
i'd use a bowler or whatever the fk that hat is if there was 1 ingame
and u could use w the glasses lol
tulip falcon
pretty sure there is
the worgen heritage set has one i think
or it might be a top hat
viscid remnant
clear pulsar
Auramaxxin
tulip falcon
it looks full set but its not
i got rid of the robe chest and changed the legs
cos i think the robe looks pretty dated and bad
halcyon siren
those legs go hard and are very versatile
i use them in a lot of shit
all dif colours of them
tulip falcon
ok yea was wondering why it did that lmao
halcyon siren
basically everything does that
halcyon siren
and it's so weird, like uh
halcyon siren
i use that on other chars
ya
like
other sets
good hat for kt
lmao
tww had some goated mog items i can't lie
all the shit u could get from that dwarf
the 'civilian' sets
tardy hare
crazy ur not perma using wotlk tabards
Wod s2&3 are bis tabards
halcyon siren
lold
he's fried i'm afraid
well actually,
no i was wrong,
he's not fried
he's kinda spitting facts the red one is fireg
tulip falcon
oh yea the wod ones were good
halcyon siren
s1 was a miss for me
but the fel corrupted vibe of all the elites in s3 was very cool for me
wish badly i had the mage set from their one
but i was enjimaxxing (randomly playing shadowpriest) at that time unfortunately\
wish i wasn't so cosmetic focused, probably why i'm such a damn worm on my 'main' and suck so bad
livid wasp
same wish I played the game so I could actually improve
halcyon siren
Queue alt
I'm prob gunna queue Alt now too idk I might try to push past strat wins this season
I didn't even do strat wins last season because I was boosting my gfs alts instead and had only my 1 druid
I keep saying it's pointless because I'm never gunna r1 blitz but maybe that's the wrong attitude and I should try to push cr after strat wins anyways
livid wasp
cba leveling it
halcyon siren
I mean I have fun when I queue tbh
But i feel so giga noob
This season
Probably just the flaws in my gameplay feeling so much more evident to me somehow this season
The complexity prune maybe idk
clear pulsar
What is a strat win?
clear pulsar
OH ok ok
grand mesa
Phased
Is your guy gonna pull thru for me tonight
Or do I have to make empty threats again
viscid remnant
halcyon siren
What is supposed to happen puzzle
vocal pollen
Someone in my guild is supposed to buff shaman
grand mesa
That’s right they better
viscid remnant
is he raiding with ion hazzikosta or what
wintry jackal
Phased
Can we get some mistweaver PvP nerfs
Or some other healer buffs
I know the devs don’t care about PvP but I would indulge in some bribery to make something happen
slender crow
is it viable to play without germination?
late to the expac, what's the deal with overgrowth
chrome panther
its gone
slender crow
cenarion as well o.o
grand mesa
Enjoy
grand mesa
And tranq bubble went away to make room for big tree
chrome panther
tranq immune gone too idk when you last played
grand mesa
So now you got neither
grand mesa
I think big tree fucked you guys
Tbh
all of your healing and save power was indexed into that CD and everything else kinda sucked until next big tree
chrome panther
did mw lose anything going into midnight
rsham/rdruid got fucked by the pruning hardest i think
(nobody else got pruned at all)
vocal pollen
Can we get some mistweaver PvP nerfs
Working on it…. Trust me I bitch about mw a lot
chrome panther
lets also take angel form and 1 PI charge
grand mesa
idk if rdruid is necessarily bad it’s just high burst triple dps meta
grand mesa
you don’t have CDs like the good specs for how frequently people get 100-0. In fact your only external is way more Giga than it’s ever been
grand mesa
so puzzle quit rdru because they removed every spell ?
I haven’t really played druid since DF
viscid remnant
ah
grand mesa
Ya been priest and shaman for a minute now
grand mesa
@ nax
grand mesa
it’s diff than priest right cause I don’t get a 20s or whatever mana free window
vocal pollen
Don’t forget the invulnerability
grand mesa
Where I consider letting myself die so I can just pump not giving a fuck about anything
viscid remnant
UNC
grand mesa
Hello das me
vocal pollen
Unc I’m crine
viscid remnant
ankh = unc
vocal pollen
Makes sense because shaman is unc class
vocal pollen
Lmao
viscid remnant
vocal pollen
I will be a holy paladin player when I’m decrepit probably
viscid remnant
im crying
vocal pollen
https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2043719583064871220
astral rune
https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2043719583064871220
8 below the polish guy
lime light
lmao
watching some ven video on yt
and apparently mage is that good
cuz MW is too good
oh well
i guess mages are bad
its cuz mw is too good
vocal pollen
vencucki
late wraith
and apparently mage is that good
Ziqo on stream yesterday was amped over double rogue cause he thought it was going to prove that the op part of rogue mage is rogue not mage. Oop!
lime light
but he is just tbc'ing
grand mesa
cuz MW is too good
I do think fire is kept alive by MW and would just explode without lol. They’re so hard to heal
halcyon siren
I mean mw is so warping
Monk as a whole
In blitz too
Disgusting guy
Imagine trying to kill anything with a dampeningless mw healing them
It's not real
I have never hated a healer more than current mw in any iteration of the game
late wraith
vw disc is silently doing terrorism again just no one is paying attention to it
they can top meters
not just above healers like above dps.
lime light
if your hp drops with vw disc
it stays like that
there is no backedple
u fall behind u donzo
stray sigil
vw disc is silently doing terrorism again just no one is paying attention to it
u just gotta live thru like 2 ps
and they have to blow it kinda fast cuz they do no healing
late wraith
u just gotta live thru like 2 ps
for sure it's just wild to see what they're capable of
when left to do their terrorismes.
queen gust
Ya I hate mw more than I hated tww s3 vw disc deadass
For me MW is rage inducing because of Para/Sweep/Song every ~30 seconds.
I can handle them being OP healing gods that can Life Cocoon every go ever, but having to watch them smugly cast their stupid fucking cloud makes me lose my shit.
late wraith
that's wild they're fine mw is just insane
this is like when people claim the other rogue specs are bad and then suddenly whazz is on outlaw
wintry jackal
Why did they take hpal out back
late wraith
and then everyone is on outlaw
late wraith
because it was horrific for multiple seasons in a row
and literally no one has fun in an hpal meta
wintry jackal
I think they just need to buff everything up to mw level
wintry jackal
At least when hpal was good on beta w mw it felt like there was variety
wintry jackal
I was talking w my buddy piano who is a r1 shuffle mw and hpriest and he was saying healers are bad cus ppl just die outside of damage
Except with mw
Like damage CDs
stray sigil
when they nerf mw ull see @late wraith
late wraith
naw i can still die outside of damage watch me
wintry jackal
I think that’s the problem
stray sigil
ww not gonna look this insane anymore
queen gust
and take mages with them
Mages are one of the two main character classes. They won't ever die, but I can see them murdering MW.
late wraith
yeah they will probably not be as tanky without mw i get it i get it whatever it's fine
wintry jackal
Like even as mage it’s weird cus you sometimes have to block even when your non mw healer isn’t in cc and the enemy isn’t in cds
If they make the other healers better then at least trades make sense
lime light
ww not gonna look this insane anymore
ape kid dog shadap
wintry jackal
I have an ez solution to balancing just give feral pred swiftness clones again GG game design solved
grand mesa
he's right
queen gust
yeah they will probably not be as tanky without mw i get it i get it whatever it...
Nah, Mage is busted full stop and should never die regardless of healer they have a million defensives they can rotate for ever.
Them blaming MW is just typical Mage gaslighting.
grand mesa
fire mage and WW propped up hard by MW saving
wintry jackal
Bro chill on the mage slander they have no CDs beside block
If the enemy team has a purge
Esp fire mage
grand mesa
esp fire mage
grand mesa
yeah
wintry jackal
Yup
chrome panther
and thats fine
wintry jackal
Bro
wintry jackal
Out of all the classs mage lost the most defensively
lime light
what iam seeing here
stray sigil
that was a completely fried statement
lime light
its so crazy
grand mesa
i think MW should get bonked but they trinket bonus increase stam way more
wintry jackal
Venruki said it too
queen gust
Bro chill on the mage slander they have no CDs beside block
Mage deserves infinite slander.
astral rune
I have an ez solution to balancing just give feral pred swiftness clones again G...
Buff feral
chrome panther
ven is cooked
stray sigil
if ur reference is ven
wintry jackal
Like literally so easy
chrome panther
biggest mage gaslighter
queen gust
Venruki said it too
Oh sorry, I didn't realize we're being trolled.
lime light
aka ragebait (thats how ppl call it this days)
chrome panther
buff arms (more)
wintry jackal
Sounds like ppl can’t kick poly
Fire has no slows
I get not liking frost as a melee
But if you can’t kill a fire mage I’m sorry
That’s a skill issue
livid wasp
its pretty nice to not be playing the game and not get mad about anything, just chilling watching streams, but at the same time it feels bad cause the little caveman inside of me needs to prove myself to be the best feral
stray sigil
stray sigil
its pretty nice to not be playing the game and not get mad about anything, just ...
do it
vocal pollen
its pretty nice to not be playing the game and not get mad about anything, just ...
yes
watching streams is fake
I need to prove people wrong
wintry jackal
Also hating on Venruki is wild
stray sigil
nobody is hating on ven
livid wasp
I dont watch wow streams, who the fuck does that theyre so boring
stray sigil
the point is ur bringing up someone with an insane history of mage bias
stray sigil
to prove ur point
wintry jackal
You can say he’s not reliable if you have a higher rated char than him
stray sigil
thats like asking mag
stray sigil
if warrior is good or not
vocal pollen
mag will say a racial slur and go back to his room with 900 empty soda cans
and a mcdonalds bag
wintry jackal
Venruki doesn’t do that shit and his take is not bad
clear pulsar
You can say he’s not reliable if you have a higher rated char than him
You're pulling the fuji tech on him?
wintry jackal
Mage lost so many tools and defensives in the pruning
stray sigil
You're pulling the fuji tech on him?
clear pulsar
It doesnt matter if mage lost everything if they do 900k damage in 4s of combust bro
chrome panther
sobad
wintry jackal
I didn’t say it’s bad lol
clear pulsar
I mean...
lime light
do better
wintry jackal
I’m saying damage is what they do
chrome panther
venruki gaslights about mage every fucking stream m8
clear pulsar
Yeah lmao
mighty mist
idk i was playing brawl and my swifty one shot macro didnt killl a mage i think its probly too strong defensively actually
lime light
jump in my boi @stray sigil
clear pulsar
Venruki every tier list:
so guise feral hunter are really broken specs
mage is maybe A tier (it is S+_+++++)
I watch his stream a lot, great guy, fun guy, you dont have to make it weird by pretend we're attacking him personally @wintry jackal
chrome panther
great stream until some demented chatter brings up politics and stunlocks him for an hour
vocal pollen
just got waffle fries and double smash burger with mushrooms
clear pulsar
Everybody's perspective is biased by what we play, a DK player would prob consider shadow priest much worse than ret paladins would
stray sigil
Everybody's perspective is biased by what we play, a DK player would prob consid...
would they care about sp
i feel like that sounds fine ?
clear pulsar
No I'm saying DK would think spr is always weak
stray sigil
whats bad about dk vs sp interaction
queen gust
I kind of like Ven, it's just an established meme of "Mage isn't bad, venruki said so" so saying "Venruki said mage isn't OP" kind of sets things up that there's a 99% chance you're trolling.
clear pulsar
Ret might think they're stronger than the DK player does
I just picked Ret cuz of purges and MD but idk it was just a random example
random patrol
let mages be good love qing into them
lime light
i dont take anyting personal, its Epgrove
lime light
after i saw a guy sayin fire mage is the worst spec in the game (not in that words)
iam donzo
random patrol
mage pizza though
lime light
with being srs in here
grand mesa
Everybody's perspective is biased by what we play, a DK player would prob consid...
better example would be rdruids vs. dragons
lime light
clown fiesta
grand mesa
queen gust
let mages be good love qing into them
Nothing we can do to make Mage bad, I'll reiterate that they're one of the main character classes and have spent maybe a total of 4 weeks being bad over the 2 decades of Arena being a thing.
lime light
mage pizza though
looks like a polish pizza
clear pulsar
better example would be rdruids vs. dragons
Yeah sure
random patrol
@lime light prob brazillian
there is a place in brazil that like makes pizzas like that to ragebait the internet
vocal pollen
why is dragon good into rdruid
grand mesa
scouring flames
lime light
the best part about that ven's video is
clear fox
grand mesa
their fire breath takes 4 hots off each person
late wraith
what i stepped away for like 5 seconds what happened
clear pulsar
Fire breath triple purge every 20s
lime light
he is pulling out the stats, where mage is like 90% of casters
stray sigil
grand mesa
if htey tip they instant cast clean all 3 people
lime light
mage is not good
late wraith
i'm stealing this holy.
vocal pollen
their fire breath takes 4 hots off each person
WHAT
lime light
oh well, it is not that good then
stray sigil
mage is not good
ITS MW'S FAULT
vocal pollen
surely not
clear pulsar
It's not super one sided tbh, being able to insta root them during Incarn is prob annoying as shit back to them
clear pulsar
But it's a ridiculous thing when a mechanic exists only to hard counter 1 spec it feel awful
lime light
their fire breath takes 4 hots off each person
wasnt it 1 magic buff per a stage of flame breath
do u have 4 stages now
wintry jackal
So how would you guys fix mage then
stray sigil
tip for max i think
grand mesa
and everytime i ask rdruid
clear pulsar
Idek man I dont count
late wraith
no i think ray is too strong. that's it. that's all.
queen gust
So how would you guys fix mage then
Take away mass invis
clear pulsar
I only know that sometimes I randomly lose to a klepto fire breath
late wraith
and with poly being infinitely castable you kick the poly and you just get buhlasted.
late wraith
anyone who doesn't admit to that is delusional
clear pulsar
Fuji wants mage to be F tier
late wraith
fire mage seems fine. i dunno i think frost feels too strong to me and mass invis dropping combat feels op.
vocal pollen
is frost the pvp spec
stray sigil
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
vocal pollen
dude thats so insane though that tip fire breath just kills every hot
late wraith
like plz.
vocal pollen
why is that a thing
halcyon siren
I was talking w my buddy piano who is a r1 shuffle mw and hpriest and he was say...
Good lmao, cd gameplay is so unfun, nobody should be zdps outside of cds its so fucking boring
clear pulsar
I love it when people pretend they're comprehensively listing out a spec's kit and they just leave out 7 different utility spells just for the sake driving the narrative
Like mage only does damage
Sure mate
Only damage
late wraith
that mans drives engagement through this stuff
he's a tier list maker
i respect the hustle cause it works
queen gust
poor little arcane
Don't beleive their lies, arcane is probably fine. They're just gaslighting us for buffs so that they can surprise us with insane damage like outlaw.
late wraith
Don't beleive their lies, arcane is probably fine. They're just gaslighting us f...
truuuuue
honan is wide awake
to this bullshit
lime light
arcane has one big broblem
its one school cast
and its actually a problem in this meta
clear pulsar
Yeah that's a design constraint that makes it rly hard for it to be S++++ tier
lime light
on the other hand, no one rly tests arcane, since fire and frost are so fucking broken
queen gust
The rogue and mage cycle is as follows:
-
Have the best spec in the game
-
Complain the entire time about how your alt spec that is 1% worse than the best spec in the game is unplayable
-
Wait for that spec to get multiple 4%/8% global damage buffs
-
Swap to the new best spec in the game
Repeat until the class is so OP that really bad mages/rogues 1 shot good mages/rogues and then nerf the class down to S- tier.
vocal pollen
late wraith
i kinda wanna learn mage i feel like i'm throwing by being a boomy ngl.
lime light
u are a bear
late wraith
like i feel fine? as boomy? but also maybe it's throwing.
late wraith
not in pvp
i'm a boomy in pvp
i'm a bear in pve
bear in the streets boomy in the sheets eeeeeey
late wraith
like i think doing that to yourself is self harm
vocal pollen
I dont know how to play moonkin in pvp I feel like I cant cast I'm forced to only dot and starsurge
grand mesa
beavs actually is a confirmed guardian druid
stray sigil
ur a pig
late wraith
I dont know how to play moonkin in pvp I feel like I cant cast I'm forced to onl...
you gotta learn how to bait
precog
vocal pollen
yes man
stray sigil
guardian pig
grand mesa
both guardian pigs
stray sigil
real
lime light
idk boomkin rly feels weird in this expanion
late wraith
but your main damage this season will be coming from dots and surges.
vocal pollen
I didnt even know what preog was until lake made me put some weird gem in my pvp ring
lime light
like it actually does dmg, but not rly
vocal pollen
but your main damage this season will be coming from dots and surges.
yes its so cooked
I dont like that
late wraith
if you want to live the life of a melee boomy chad you have to learn to bait precog. if you want to run like a little piss bitch you root them and run away and cast and keep doing that
wintry jackal
I genuinely don’t care about fighting mages but I play feral
vocal pollen
I want to be a melee chad
lime light
u are a guardian pig
late wraith
then you gotta learn to bait precog
livid wasp
almost reset day and all ive done this week is 2 blitzes
late wraith
so you can cast right into their faces
lime light
sounds familiar?
livid wasp
pathetic
late wraith
but you're still not going to be sending a ton of wrath
wintry jackal
Just 4-2’d a frost mage at 1950 last night
He went 2-4
He always juked glacial
Ez kick
Buddy was a mglad mage died frost locked twice
astral rune
OH WELL, anyway boomkin is just a better mage
Give balance PvP talent that makes barkskin into iceblock
late wraith
Give balance PvP talent that makes barkskin into iceblock
HOLY
wintry jackal
Anyway who is upset about mages needs to go into a gauntlet with beavs juking clones
late wraith
NOW WE'RE COOKING
lime light
its called symbiosis
lime light
we have a tech already
wintry jackal
Beavs jukes better than asbur
late wraith
girl i wish
i keep queueing into him
he's my idol
mans plants on top of the healer and just fuckin owns
best melee boomy to have ever done it
wintry jackal
Truly
You are a very good juker tho, not just glazing mglads I have played with who have Q’d into you said it was unreal
I wish I had the vods
late wraith
🥺
vocal pollen
juker
wintry jackal
Good lmao, cd gameplay is so unfun, nobody should be zdps outside of cds its so ...
Eh I think it’s fun but I like setup game play
halcyon siren
I didnt even know what preog was until lake made me put some weird gem in my pvp...
When was this
wintry jackal
I think a good mix is good tho
vocal pollen
a while back why
halcyon siren
The game is so boring when people are afk between goes
wintry jackal
Like I want damage rotation expression to matter enough to counter a cd in damp also
halcyon siren
And u do nothing off cds
wintry jackal
But CDs knowledge and trading should matter because that’s just how the game is played
It’s a balance
wintry jackal
I think tww was good at
That balance
Damage rotation and knowledge mattered a lot
halcyon siren
Shrug
livid wasp
you guys like the game you talk about it here and shit
halcyon siren
I just don't think the mage should feel comfortable being in line of the hunter and dk with no barrier up lol
And rn they're not
Good game.
vocal pollen
the game sucks
wintry jackal
I love wow
halcyon siren
Phased you don't even play man
late wraith
watching outlaw rmp was legit the most boring shit
wintry jackal
I’m gonna log on rn
halcyon siren
Pipe down
late wraith
outlaw just runs at mage. that's it. that's the game