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dim sedge
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im really enjoying stunning healer then wild charge to low dps and main combo XD

halcyon siren
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but you really want to not do that if you can

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yes

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craziest thing

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he's a rogu

dim sedge
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is there like a metric for me to know if im doing good or bad dmg

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cause i feel like game to game its so scewed

halcyon siren
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yes your rating

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lol

dim sedge
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tru i just started so im climbing

halcyon siren
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win more rounds, did good

dim sedge
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is the only metric wins and losses?

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cause ive been getting ppl who legit fall over instantly so many times

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and auto lose

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i mean i dont expect to have a comprehensive elo system in wow

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but it would really suck if only thing that matters is wins and losses and u just constantly get a dps that just dies within 5 seconds

halcyon siren
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i mean bro,

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that will happen less if you carry yourself out

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so ya

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i think it's a good metrigc

dim sedge
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i feel like all competitive players that play at a high skill level tho will say wat u said so i get it

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but its hard to relate to low elo shenanigans

halcyon siren
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win all 4 other rounds

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by 1 shotting him

dim sedge
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XD

halcyon siren
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you typically gain elo when you 4-2 my man

tardy hare
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And keep going until u get a lobby where its not the case

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But every lobby until #1 will have a guy that potentially goes 0-6 and you need to be the guy that makes him go 1-5

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But occasionally you get a feeder

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Just gotta make sure you get the 3-3 and dont lose

tropic schooner
tardy hare
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Aah true actually

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Ive been playing healer too much recently

tropic schooner
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but concept ofc still stays what you said

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sometimes its a success to go 3-3

tardy hare
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I only speak wisdom

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Minimize loss, maximize gain

dim sedge
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i understand but i can also equate it to like keys in pve i can tell someone to just go carry themselves to 3k but then even if i hopped on a new character and tried to get 3k it would be annoying and take me awhile

halcyon siren
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okay?

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idk man just remember there are players 300 rating above you who would never lose to the lobby you're in rn and there's players 300 rating above them,

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you can be that too

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if u have a mind for improvement and the time to devote to the hobby

dim sedge
tardy hare
dim sedge
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just feels worse when ques r 20 min ahahahah

halcyon siren
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you can be that too

tardy hare
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If every lobby was chanceless for everyone then nobody would ever climb

halcyon siren
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this isn't about classes, i'm not talking about classes

random patrol
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love having multiple toons of the same spec I just leapfrog it

halcyon siren
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i'm talking about the factual reality that it IS possible, barring some cognitive or physical limitation, for you to climb out of these lobbies

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as feral

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as augvoker

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as anything

tardy hare
random patrol
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some get uber op winrates some are cursed

tropic schooner
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id guess its closer to like 60-65%

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300 mmr swing isnt that much

dim sedge
halcyon siren
dim sedge
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but im not gonna argue semantics i understand there point

halcyon siren
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i'd consider a 4-2 lobby a win

random patrol
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still not qing for a few more weeks though or at least 2 more weeks for shuffle

tropic schooner
random patrol
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do want some fun 3s this weekend though

halcyon siren
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and a 2k feral doesn't spend very much time in 1700 lobbies because realistically he goes in, wins both his lobbies at 1700, and isn't 1700 anymore

random patrol
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ui is currently only 90 percent done still doing tweaks even mid game

dim sedge
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one thing also im confused about i looked up top rated feral and his build is like way diff from like every build that i can find on youtube or websites

random patrol
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chicken build Im using atm: CYGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMLNjxMDwsZmZmZjBjZZsMjZMzsNWmxMzMYDDAGgttxGmmZWGBAAAYzMzMzgNjZMmBwMDAMA note some stuff is personal talents I like

tardy hare
halcyon siren
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but yes, rarely 300 rating differential player could lose a lobby, I was speaking in hyperbole, but I am looking at the reality of it, I don't think if you put me in a 1400 lobby i wouldn't at least 4-2 it 9/10 times for instance

random patrol
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remove corruption is a flex talent of course

tardy hare
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Atleast top 50 ferals run almost exactly the same

dim sedge
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dis one?

halcyon siren
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yes

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or apex if you like it more than long bleed

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well sort of,

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take forest walk

dim sedge
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then why does like icy veins and like every youtube guide ive watched have other builds LOLOL

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wait do i sub for forest walk

random patrol
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icy veins oh godsssssssss

tardy hare
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Most dont use primal wrath tho

dim sedge
tardy hare
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That tracks top 50 and their talents

halcyon siren
tardy hare
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Anytime there's not double melee on enemy team its worthless

dim sedge
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like swap back and forth

tardy hare
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Probably

dim sedge
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ok so since some other stuf i saw was wrong

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where can i find like good rotations for openers

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and sustained dmg and stuff

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i assume the one i found that was from icy was wrong

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it was like

tardy hare
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Idk any guides for pvp rotation

dim sedge
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rake-moonfire-maim-frenzy-bite

tardy hare
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But murlok.io has everything you need to know what to pick

dim sedge
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is what icy said

tardy hare
dim sedge
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cool

tardy hare
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For the basics atleast

halcyon siren
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watch zevx vods

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on twitch

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or snupy vods

tardy hare
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Not for situational swaps

dim sedge
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is there a time where im actually swiping over shed

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or is it always swipe

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or always shred

halcyon siren
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it's never swipe

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swipe only when looking for rogue org someththing

halcyon siren
# dim sedge and sustained dmg and stuff

don't underestimate how good biting is rotationally, it can be easy to think yi're gunna get cced or kited or something and press rip on a target with half rip left

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u will lose a lot of dmg that way, uptime on sabertooth (buff for biting) is important because so much of our dmg is rip and rake rn

livid wasp
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should we even shred im not sure its 10 more than moonfire im just used to it and feels weird not to use it

halcyon siren
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i shred still

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it's a dps gain to shred

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the pvers all shred

dim sedge
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im finding it so hard to figure out like what to do when no one is getting low cause healers r just healing

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if i go try to cc healer or apply pressure then my other dps dies to 2 dps on them

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if i stay on the 2v2 then nothing happens

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im winning matches but im just confused

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and watching some vods it looks like they just jump around from target to target bleeding until someone gets low then they help other dps to execute

halcyon siren
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yeah

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https://www.twitch.tv/zevx this guy queues daily, does shuffle, also answers questions in chat if u ask, no voice tho

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and then snupy as well for educational content

dim sedge
# halcyon siren yeah

yeh idk if im just bad or what 2 rounds i blow up the mage ez 2-0 then whole lobby goes oh ok feral is good lets target him i proceed to get chased down by 2 dps every round while my healer and dps r just running after them not stunning

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so once again i whole heartedly disagree with a good player could carry a game of bad players XD

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when i die in bear form the HOTW and surv instinct because 2 dps r on me and my healer is trying to turn on his monitor i mean gg

tardy hare
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E.g. out of line of sight of their healer, out of range of their healer

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Etc

tardy hare
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

halcyon siren
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i mean nonreality, respectfully, what mmr are you?

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like i normally don't like asking that question, because it's not really that valuable, but do you really think some of the better ferals can't 'carry' their lobby if they were at your mmr?

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like factually they can, no good feral is just waiting for a good luck streak to break out of mmr brackets they don't be long to

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so you can disagree all you want man, but i'd just focus on improving.

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to use one of your earlier anecdotes about keystones, a 3.5k io player isn't going into a +4 and failing it very often assuming his groupmates aren't fully afk or effectively too undergeared to function

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because he does enough damage or healing to make it effectively impossible to fail in practice

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again, I don't know your mmr, but do you think a gladiator level feral is unable to compete in your mmr and climb out? a duelist feral?

dim sedge
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but then unlike a lot of ppl i will go do a 4 or 5 or 6 or 10 and i will tank the key and i will not time it if my dps and healer r bad

halcyon siren
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if they couldn't, why are there people who are 2k in shuffle, 2.2k in shuffle rn, 1900 in shuffle, MMR was reset this season so every one of these players started at 1500 mmr

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do you think they just got lucky to get out?

dim sedge
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no they qued early on and road the wave with the good players like i do in keys

tiny oar
halcyon siren
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i understand tahts' how it works in keys but that's just not how it works in shuffle man

native horizon
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search the problem on everyone else is the biggest problem when u want to climb

halcyon siren
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i can go log a fresh feral and there is virtualy zero chance i will not 5-1 or 6-0 my first lobby

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maybe even my second

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and i'm shit

dim sedge
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even tho he was diamond

halcyon siren
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good players are not getting stuck vastly below their plateau mmr,

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if you're 'stuck', it's just where your skill level is at rn

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that's a hard pill to swallow sometimes and i'm straight up also stuck in 'ratleague' too so i get it

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but i fully believe that even some of the ferals in here would shit on the lobbies i'm in

native horizon
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but if u qeue shuffle u are in the team with every possible comb once. if everyone else is bad as u said its a freewin.. idk how u end up saying u lose cuz youre the best in the lobby

halcyon siren
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like Folt, a guy who plays feral, is 1900 cr in shuffle and i'm very certain he didn't have many tie lobbies or lost lobbies at 1700....

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or he'd just be 1700

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lol

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he post here sometimes, maybe u can @ him and ask some questions

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@ Suffre is in here too,

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(rank 2 world shuffle feral)

dim sedge
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no need they will say the same thing XD

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that u said

halcyon siren
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yes bcause its true

dim sedge
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to an extent, theres a reason T1 when he does his climb to challenger he starts in diamond

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cause he would never get out of silver

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i know league bettter then wow so easier to make a comparison

halcyon siren
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do you really think that?

dim sedge
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heck his last challenger series he did he got stuck in masters for 400 games

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and with the logic u said he shouldve won 90% of his games

native horizon
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but still a bad comparison since u wont switch every teammate for multiple rounds before game ends

halcyon siren
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do you really think tyler1 would 'never get out of silver'?

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are you okay man?

dim sedge
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but it could take him either 10 games or 100 games

halcyon siren
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bro he starts in plat because it would be ridiculously unfair for him to be in a silver game lol

halcyon siren
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diamond shitters roll over silver lobbies

native horizon
dim sedge
halcyon siren
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like man, i play tft at d3-d2 or something, do you think i'm going 8th in bronze and silver?

dim sedge
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not 90% crushing every lobby

halcyon siren
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no man

halcyon siren
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i didn't lose a game until gold...

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bro i actually don't wanna argue, if yuo think a challenger player isn't rolling a silver lobby and r1s aren't rolling 1500 lobbies

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you're just not worth arguing with

native horizon
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well sometimes enemie smurfin too i think u still can lose ^^ but still.. saying u cant climb cuz everyone else is bad is just..

halcyon siren
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ty for convo and gl in games

dim sedge
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old games always have more smurfs

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the funny part is im not even argueing this while losing games im at a positive WR i just find the whole structure of the statements incorrect

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and thats from someone who has played in games at top level and bottom level

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i literally competed competitvely for money in R6

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but i couldnt garuntee even close to a 80% WR smurfing with my friends in gold/plat

native horizon
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but you already said that you don't want to learn anyway since no matter how good you are, it still depends on everyone else if you lose. with this way of thinking, you will always be stuck at low CR. idk what were talking about honestly

halcyon siren
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Thumbsup the reality is the high players get high elo accounts not because they would be stuck silver, but to protect silver players lol

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from some top laner going 15-0 and warping the game

tardy hare
dim sedge
halcyon siren
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nobody even said your dmg was bad, you asked about metrics to assess your progress and the answer is 'your rating',

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I even gave you tips about not over-ripping, you started arguing and looking for somebody to agree with u and say it's rng,

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and u just need to wait and get carried

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like

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bro

native horizon
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To me it sounds like he just wants to let off his frustration when he reaches his limit

tardy hare
halcyon siren
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nobody even knows your mmr,

tardy hare
halcyon siren
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so u could be better than people in here, the advice stands, if you're good you'll climb, try to improve, u can do it

tardy hare
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We cant give you exact tips other than try to follow x streamer

halcyon siren
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the best guys all did it, they ain't stuck, just like t1 won't be stuck in silver

tardy hare
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And then someone started spouting nonsense about it being impossible to carry noober games

halcyon siren
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and yes, i told yuo the educational feral streamers who play daily

tardy hare
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But thats just factually wrong

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In wow the longer the season goes on, the easier it gets to climb by a shit ton

native horizon
halcyon siren
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ya i mean starting mmr last 2 weeks of season last season was 2100 in shuffle

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lol

dim sedge
halcyon siren
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yeah we're not talking about cr or 'current rating', and everybody this season started at 1500 elo/match making rating

halcyon siren
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anyways gl bud, i think you can do it

dim sedge
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like i literally 10 matches ago was at 0 won the game went to 300

native horizon
halcyon siren
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yeah that's your current rating, in WoW pvp you have a match-making rating, and a current rating

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referred to as mmr and cr,

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everybody starts at 1500 mmr, 0 cr

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starting mmr is actually 1560 rn i think, it goes up as the weeks go on

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unless it started at 1400 mmr this season? idr i didn't look, historically always 1500 tho

tardy hare
tardy hare
dim sedge
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because everyone in discord takes exactly wat someone says at complete face value no matter wat

tardy hare
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Were not trying to bash you at all

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Stop playing the victim here now lmao

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You cant blame us for trying to help you

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Crazy behavior

dim sedge
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???

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bro me going hey i just had agame where i won 2 then got stomped because of this reason

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is me asking for help

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then getting told o well a good player doesnt blame his teamates and woulda carried the game

tardy hare
native horizon
tardy hare
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Youre saying its not possible

halcyon siren
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all g bro, let's refocus again, at your current MMR you can really crush your lobbies if you crank dmg and press all your defensives before you die, you can probably improve a lot if you lock your PVE rotation down, don't over-write rip, and optimize damage.

tardy hare
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And were saying it is

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And try to give you pointers on how to

halcyon siren
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There are several educational streamers you can watch,

tardy hare
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And you just start crying

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But you do you

halcyon siren
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some combos to look out for are tiger's fury, feral frenzy, stun combos

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ideally you want do this every 30 sec,

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and you want to ferocious bite your feral frenzy target

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to buff the bleed

tardy hare
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Eventually we do turn hostile if you're gonna be like this lol

halcyon siren
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some things to think about are positioning, say you're ex: against fury warrior devDH,

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and you're with a warlock or spriest or something

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prob wanna hit dev mostly so you don't get cleaved

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by fury warrior

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mitigate damge on yourelf while optimizing it on enemies, as feral you can range your melee oponents to get easier clones because you have to worry less about kicks

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make sure you have cognizant heliotrope socketed in your gear

dim sedge
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i mean this is what started it, like i understand my wording was bad but just going well just carry yourself as the answer, a simple "yeh thats the only metric they follow for elo, they dont take into account ccs or anything" and i woulda went ok cool ty and none of this woulda been argued

halcyon siren
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ah yeah, the only thing that affects your mmr/rating is wins and losses.

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cc/dmg/healing will contribute to wins,

dim sedge
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i get it im not gonna type anymore, but just from my POV getting told to just carry urself when im new to pvp is somewhat annoying. will be back here when i get hard stuck 😛

halcyon siren
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I actually didn't know your question was so literal my man,

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anyways, gl bud. as u start getting in lobbies with better players, they will press their buttons.

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and random deaths will be less frequent

tardy hare
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Thats crazy

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That that was the actual question

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What

halcyon siren
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ya my bad

tardy hare
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Not at all

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Not a soul would've gotten that as a question

tulip falcon
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I love reading worldofpvp subreddit

livid wasp
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ret players are the most arrogant fucks

halcyon siren
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that's bait

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i love this season

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i shit on rets

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1v1

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it's my dream

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i walk at their base and kill them

grand mesa
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Morning team

tiny oar
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GOOD MORNING

grand mesa
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Hewwo wakez

tiny oar
grand mesa
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Big

clear pulsar
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Good morning

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I hope it's a beautiful day

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Rained the whole afternoon yesterday, kinda nice weather but kinda lame scenery couldn't walk outside in the sun

grand mesa
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What did u rename the Druid to

clear pulsar
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Nothing yet

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I need GMs to tell me what is considered appropriate

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Not in a rush anyways

viscid remnant
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gm puzzle

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and face

clear pulsar
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Insani 0 impact in 2026 @viscid remnant

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Sad to see

viscid remnant
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they choked that semi so badly

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its sad i was hoping they win

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quarter final not semi

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its sad yesterday he popped off

grand mesa
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Gm davider

viscid remnant
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literally 2.0 rated i think

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over 2 maps

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mby abit less

clear pulsar
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Yeah but

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Normal, tier 3 merchant

viscid remnant
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klim is so good tho

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mby also t2 merchant tbf

clear pulsar
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Dude karrigan is gonna be the highest rated player this tourmanet

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TOURMANET tournament

viscid remnant
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karrigUNC

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2maps doesnt count tbf

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but it is funny

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fut players might pass him if they farm b8

tulip falcon
clear pulsar
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At some point after 4 or 5 tickets, surely

tulip falcon
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I can't even find where to open a ticket

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I've wanted help with my crashing for weeks

clear pulsar
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Skill issue

viscid remnant
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true

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face they added brazil servers to runeuncs allegedly

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they care about u more than blizzard

strong coral
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what do i do when a rogue pops evasion, as feral

clear pulsar
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Clone it

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Could typhoon them into a root at range

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If you cant get distance to clone, try to fake a kick or go bear and press FR

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Or just swap targets

clear pulsar
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But you won't get an answer about how to fix your crashes, I don't think?! I mean, what could a GM do about it

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You could just send it as a bug report, can do that in-game too

tulip falcon
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but seems pointless if there's no way to actually communicate with support

clear pulsar
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Yep there's just no way

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Impossible to find

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No way to open a ticket it's just not there in-game or on the website

tulip falcon
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any category you select just redirects you to forums or FAQs

viscid remnant
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but isnt there like a crash report

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when u crash

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cant u google that

native horizon
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Im waiting for piglet travelerform

clear pulsar
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It's myself thank you

tulip falcon
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good week so far

tulip falcon
vocal pollen
vocal pollen
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Big fan of the piggy

grand mesa
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why are u awake

vocal pollen
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I can’t be awake at a semi normal time??

halcyon siren
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@tulip falcon check dms pls

grand mesa
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no

vocal geyser
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Yo is there any gladius-like addon in midnight ? I'm playing with 0 addon it's great oldschool feeling but I prefer winning some

halcyon siren
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aArena

grand mesa
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sarena reloaded

vocal geyser
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Thx

vocal pollen
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I got a full 8 hours

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thats a W in my books

grand mesa
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oh nice

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look at this unit

vocal pollen
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no man

wanton ridge
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is that the og tier3

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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i crafted all the cloth t3s

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because i was a priest main

wanton ridge
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sick

grand mesa
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but now i'm mail main...

wanton ridge
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I need to start doing that

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I think I did the scholo thing to unlock naxx stuff, but I never looked into it

grand mesa
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If I ever decide to be plate main I need to go back for dreadnaught it’s kinda required

clear pulsar
wanton ridge
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Is it a painful process to craft those pieces?

grand mesa
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Almost all of TWW…

vocal pollen
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disc was too hard for unc

grand mesa
wanton ridge
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What's expensive about it

grand mesa
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Like 3-4m gold per set

wanton ridge
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ok thats not expensive, but is it like vendor mats?

grand mesa
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the reagents to craft from vendor are expensive yeah

wanton ridge
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cool alright

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I think I paid like 5-6m per tier3 piece on my druid lol

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from the BMAH, so this is a good deal

grand mesa
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I did this in DF all in a rush in like 1 week

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So I’m hazy on the details

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ATP

wanton ridge
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And uh, say I want the mage t3, my warlock is tailoring, what do I do, do I need to do content on my warlock?

grand mesa
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No you can do it all off one toon if I recall

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or most of it

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I did not do anything mage

wanton ridge
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gotcha, im sure theres a guide somewhere

grand mesa
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Might have sent myself crafting orders on my mage to receive the loot just to have the physical set specifically on mage

wanton ridge
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I may want to finish druid, and get mage+warlock sets

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Ah crafting orders, nice, alright

grand mesa
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yeah the cloth sets were generally the winners imo

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Except maybe dreadnaught

wanton ridge
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I never did OG naxx, but I did it in SoD on my druid, I got my full tier3 in one run lol

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everyone else was geared AF and all the pieces went to me

grand mesa
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I did a bit of nax in ‘05

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think we were progging big spider

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and they pushed the patch to let more than 8 debuffs be on one target or whatever then it fell over

wanton ridge
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I still have to do scarlet enclave, I have the full tier4 set from that raid but i only got it because of the "weekly box" thing lol

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or rather, tier 3.5

grand mesa
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heard the scarlet raid was dope

wanton ridge
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the sets frmo SoD were OP as hell, like feral's rake would one shot mobs in the outside world

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it'd be your top damage and not even close, in vanilla it wasn't evne worth pressing lol

grand mesa
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I was tanking at the time

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Click off renew give me the good shit

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My healing officers renew only

wanton ridge
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lmao

vocal pollen
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I was a holy paladin in wow classic spamming flash of light FeelsStrongMan

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I raided up to aq and got so bored that I quit and started retail ICANT

wanton ridge
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I love leveling in classic

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then I start raiding, and I stop playing

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I did molten core 2 weeks on my warlock in first classic, 💤 💤 💤 💤 💤 💤 💤 💤 💤 💤

clear pulsar
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As shaman

grand mesa
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mmm

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late DF was when i got curious about other shit (hated treants). played priest and shaman

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decided to main priest start of tww

vocal pollen
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I hated levelling

grand mesa
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got annoyed by no kick in keys

vocal pollen
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I hate levelling now

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always have

grand mesa
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went rsham late undermine

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be shaman since

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been*

grand mesa
vocal pollen
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yeah me neither

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although I can never stand levelling tbh ICANT

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just awful content

grand mesa
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i don't mind doing it once

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for the campaign and the experience on main

#

but after that i want it to be the most trivial and short thing to do ever

safe heart
#

why cant we buy 90 boosts yet

vocal pollen
#

the experience or smth idk

safe heart
#

ive done the campaign 3 times and still havent experienced the campaign

tiny oar
vocal pollen
#

im down to just pay someone to level for me

#

I cba

halcyon siren
#

I think they really missed the mark on dungeon leveling this time around

vocal pollen
#

I spent like 8 hours last weekend spamming timewalking on my evoker KEKL

safe heart
#

yeah i had hoped i could level my priests as healers in dungeons after i did campaign quick on the druid but nope

wanton ridge
halcyon siren
#

Like I'm all for campaign and questing being fast but I'd like it if dungeons were, day, 80percent as fast

wanton ridge
#

level 80: do 10 delves, then do TW until 87.5, then professions to 88.5, then turn all delves quest 90, ez

halcyon siren
#

Because if you want to level with friends you're just sorta out of luck

vocal pollen
#

yeah I just did 1...

#

have u ever seen a stronger character

#

sheer aura

halcyon siren
#

Femboy physique 'sheer aura'

#

Hmm

vocal pollen
#

thats a dragon buddy

halcyon siren
#

Is he even the thickest dragon ...

vocal pollen
#

probably not

#

thats not really something I think about

halcyon siren
#

Thus, femboy physique

lime light
#

@vocal pollen if you scared, go to church
You knew the job was dangerous when you took it
Whattup it's the big boss Dogg

vocal pollen
lime light
#

if u dont know

#

u are not real murican

vocal pollen
#

I dont.....

#

'Cause there we are again in the middle of the night
We're dancin' 'round the kitchen in the refrigerator light
Down the stairs, I was there
I remember it all too well
And there we are again when nobody had to know
You kept me like a secret, but I kept you like an oath
Sacred prayer and we'd swear
To remember it all too well, yeah

#

I know this though

halcyon siren
#

Sir this is a burger King

lime light
#

says taolor swift

#

uhm

#

no

#

NO

vocal pollen
#

taylor swift is the goat

lime light
#

no

halcyon siren
#

Can we get some low iq bashing of ppl for liking music in that chat please

lime light
#

we can

#

yes

halcyon siren
#

Oh you like X? No. Just no. Cringe.

#

Etc etc etc.

halcyon siren
#

So true bestie

vocal pollen
#

ep

lime light
#

OwO

viscid remnant
tropic schooner
vocal pollen
#

lowkey kinda true

#

if it doesnt have ball or guns I dont want it

tropic schooner
#

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26.02.25...

▶ Play video
#

we can have both

vocal pollen
#

HOLY

#

im tuned in

tulip falcon
#

bricked mmr

clear pulsar
#

Sucks, feels like a waste of time innit

tulip falcon
#

yee

#

think the season is over

#

oh well

#

200 rating down since yday

livid wasp
#

well

#

it is kind of a waste of time until the last 2 weeks

tulip falcon
#

harder to climb late season when its super inflated and 3k is like being 1800 again

tiny oar
#

press on against all odds soldiers

chrome panther
#

lake mod?!

livid wasp
#

it's over

tiny oar
#

do not be concerned

chrome panther
#

the end times are upon us

livid wasp
#

now I have to duo or banned

astral rune
#

Only the non believers are concerned

tiny oar
grand mesa
vocal pollen
#

I woke up early and then just took a nap for another 3 hours anyway

vocal pollen
grand mesa
#

Phased are they gonna iterate more with class tuning for .5 and we haven’t seen it yet or

#

It’s very what we saw is what we get

vocal pollen
#

yeah I mean

#

idk

#

we'll see I guess idk what their class tuning plans are

grand mesa
#

It’s ok I get my 20% aura buff to rsham announced tomorrow

vocal pollen
#

surely....

#

I was expecting more class tuning too

#

hopefully soon

late wraith
#

Hey tune this

lime light
#

Hey no

late wraith
#

you ruined it

lime light
#

Yes

late wraith
#

Delete ur post

lime light
#

No

grand mesa
late wraith
#

It’s fine

lime light
#

are u gonna say the word

late wraith
#

Hey tune this

lime light
#

no

late wraith
#

Hey tune this

lime light
#

no

late wraith
#

Hey tune this

lime light
#

No

vocal pollen
#

tune THIS

late wraith
#

hahahahahaba

vocal pollen
lime light
#

ok u have a pass now

late wraith
#

Hey tune this

luff

lime light
#

i allowed that this time

vocal pollen
#

be careful what u type in epgrove

lime light
#

yes

#

watch your back

clear pulsar
#

Is EP playing pokemon champion?

quick ermine
#

I feel like I’m going oom in under a minute on rdruid (bgb). Any tips?

lime light
#

EP not a pig

#

meld drink yes

#

if not a melder, go to shop and buy melder

quick ermine
#

I’ve started doing that. Should I only cast regrowth with proc?

clear pulsar
#

Learn where they are in each map

clear pulsar
#

Take Master Shapeshifter and use Starsurge on cd

#

With Forest Guardian it's a healing button

#

Get in a HOTW in cat form -> Bite, recover some more mana with MS

#

This wont keep you from ooming entirely, just delay it / add globals that dont spend mana is good

quick ermine
#

Thanks! I’ll try that. I’ve just dipped my toes into healing as a side gig from balance main. I’m sure there’s tons I can improve on. The mana thing really spooked me.

clear pulsar
#

Yeah spec ooms hard it's unfort

quick ermine
#

I don’t understand why our mana drains so quickly compared to other healers or the justification for it

lime light
#

Ep on rsham always full mana

#

Maybe learn from him

#

Yes

clear pulsar
#

Rsham full mana but team 0 HP

random patrol
#

50/50 on cat atm

#

fuck

clear pulsar
#

:c man you're really going through a rough patch with your pets lately

stray sigil
lime light
#

@clear pulsar are u gonna say sorry to EP

#

he sad

#

immediately

stray sigil
clear pulsar
#

I deleted the warrior and went with Fatherfigure @late wraith it's really the best option

#

I tried Fearless, Blankspace, Cancelled, all taken

#

Tried Grimmie and also taken

#

Moonrunner is a competitive realm for naming

#

Dude my addon settings...

halcyon siren
stray sigil
livid wasp
#

I heard pokemon champions is dog

clear pulsar
#

Lol

vocal pollen
#

🐶

livid wasp
#

pokopia though

#

now theres a game

#

I play it before bed

#

nice and chill

clear pulsar
#

Nice

#

Do you really?

#

I havent bought that, I feel like it's not my type of game

random patrol
#

yeah when it comes to animals lately I'm lit cursed

#

not even meme cursed like wtf this bad luck

clear pulsar
#

I'm sorry man that's hard

random patrol
#

cat will be at the vet until Sat at least

#

I'm not holding up high hope

#

mark me a pessimist at this point but I'm prob going to be at 2 now

#

going to be a long weekend

stray sigil
halcyon siren
#

Yeah my mom is down to one

viscid remnant
halcyon siren
#

Everybody dyin

#

Out here

livid wasp
halcyon siren
#

My mom thinks she is on her last pet actually, her current dog may outlive her

#

Strange to think about.

livid wasp
#

well animal crossing I played but its very different

clear pulsar
#

Big change of pace for pokemon games

tulip falcon
#

@livid wasp i made it

clear pulsar
#

TOP LOSERS is crazy hahahahaha

#

No that's foul bro

halcyon siren
#

LMAO

#

BASED

livid wasp
halcyon siren
#

I might be there soon

tulip falcon
#

actually insane to lose 12 games in a row

livid wasp
#

how

halcyon siren
#

Went 2-3 w lake in her placements for -96

halcyon siren
#

Prob won't tho my mmr probably low enough for me to be in hard-to-lose games now

livid wasp
#

ive only queued a couple of games a day recently I cba tilting

tulip falcon
#

i think i stopped being angry 5 losses ago

#

now i just find it funny

#

i think when i quit in tww s2 it was cos i lost 7 in a row

#

this is somethin else

vocal pollen
tulip falcon
#

i think i'd get like 2-3 games of 0 rating wins

#

maybe i finally do shuffle instead

livid wasp
#

I had that moment last season too

#

I lost just as many

#

went from 3k mmr to 2.3-2.4k mmr

#

it was when I got on the list

#

but then somehow I made it back

tulip falcon
#

gonna take days to make it back if i do

livid wasp
#

I just kept doom queuing then I got a 10 win streak and was back

tulip falcon
#

part of me wants to do that cos its like i dont care if i lose more at this point lmao

livid wasp
#

gotta do it anyways if you want r1

#

so might as well

tulip falcon
#

well its now 14 losses

#

xD

livid wasp
#

fucked up

halcyon siren
#

In tww s2

#

I had an 11 losser

tulip falcon
#

im going to the US for a couple weeks next week anyway so ill maybe try again later in season idk

halcyon siren
#

I was in a flow state completely untiltable

tulip falcon
#

its hard to get tilted past a certain point

#

lol

#

its the acceptance stage

halcyon siren
#

Queue up, played like shit, lost, repeat

#

It was pog

#

Elo freefall

#

Think I dipped to 19 from 27 mmr 25 to 21 cr or something

#

Was pog

tulip falcon
#

through where

vocal pollen
#

well I live in bumfuck nowhere upstate new york

#

dont think u are going anywhere close to that

tulip falcon
#

like the opposite side of the country

#

staying with a friend in texas i know that moved there

halcyon siren
#

mfer thinks texas is the opposite side from ny

tulip falcon
#

i mean

#

pretty far regardless

#

lol

#

thats like the distance of my country 15 times over

livid wasp
#

for americans a 2 hour drive is a normal daily drive

viscid remnant
livid wasp
#

isnt it a lot more expensive now

#

trump voters not happy

viscid remnant
#

dpends on state i think

#

i saw some american complaining about 4/gallon which is basically 1 per liter

livid wasp
#

its like 2 e per liter here

viscid remnant
#

2.2 here

livid wasp
#

diesel used to be cheaper than gas and now its like 2.2e

#

for some reason

astral rune
#

It’s 3.35/gal here so about .78 e

viscid remnant
#

☠️

astral rune
#

Diesel is 5.19 so 1.17 e

random patrol
#

4.24 for unleaded

#

I don't have a car though

astral rune
#

Maybe we really are spoiled with gas prices lul

viscid remnant
#

i guess paying tens of thousands for hospital mby offsets it

astral rune
#

glevil gas is cheap just don’t break a leg or something

halcyon siren
#

it's 1dollar 70 per litre in canada

#

before iran war 1.3

#

so ya 1 usd/litre

chrome panther
#

diesel is 3/litre in victoria my buddy told me Despair

viscid remnant
#

3 fake dollars

#

or normal

chrome panther
#

well victoria is in canada

#

so

random patrol
#

another day another chicken dinner

vocal pollen
#

another day another potato dinner

safe heart
#

Chicken and rice
Every day

vocal pollen
#

that was me a few months ago

#

im potato maxxing now though

random patrol
#

love potatos

#

sometimes I made uber tatos

halcyon siren
#

lmao i love voodoo posts

clear fox
#

I just carb max

#

Carbs = bis

vocal pollen
#

same

#

I ate nothing but different kinds of pastas for a very long time

#

now im also carb maxxing but with potatoes

clear fox
#

I mix as much carbs as possible into a water bottle

#

Training my body to absorb 140g of carbs per hour

#

Maximal carb

chrome panther
#

💀

vocal pollen
#

lmfao

#

ok well idk about all that

#

all I know is that I need to add protein into my diet

chrome panther
#

tuna is goated

#

drain and mix with rice

clear fox
#

Only during sport tho

#

Then just hit protein minimums for day

#

And then pasta pasta rice bread

#

Carbs carbs carbs

chrome panther
#

what is ur minimum ben

clear fox
#

Potatoes good too

chrome panther
#

im curious

#

i dont know any endurance athletes irl

#

my min protein daily is around 220g glorp

clear fox
#

I try for like 1.5g per kilo ish, so around like 95-100

stray sigil
#

how much u weigh old man

chrome panther
#

245lb rn

stray sigil
#

so ur on cut?

chrome panther
#

technically yes i need to be under 100kg to meet my weight class

#

which uh

#

might not happen

clear fox
#

Me 186 / 65kg

stray sigil
#

im 150

clear fox
#

Or uhhh 6’1 / 144lb

stray sigil
#

um smol but deadly

clear fox
#

6’1 so smol

chrome panther
stray sigil
#

i think im kinda vitcim weight

#

but not rly

clear fox
#

Wait if you’re victim weight

#

Unless you’re like giga tall

stray sigil
#

more than 160 i look bloated to fuck

clear fox
#

I’m also victim weight

stray sigil
#

ba im 5’10

clear fox
#

Then I’m giga victim weight

stray sigil
#

prob somewhat near what i should be

clear fox
#

-7 lb and +3 and a lil inches

stray sigil
#

maybe more around 160

#

but i dont ely like it

#

ur def lanky

#

its ok tho

clear fox
#

I go uphill fast

stray sigil
#

ur cardio guy

clear fox
#

Tiny arms

#

Move weight hell naw

chrome panther
#

cardio scares me

#

working sets past 5 are forbidden

stray sigil
#

weights therapeutic

stray sigil
clear fox
#

Cardio therapeutic

#

Rail heart rate

#

Demons can’t catch me now

stray sigil
#

isnt 6-8 better for hyperthropht

#

i dont do that low anyways but

chrome panther
#

all that shit is myths

#

tiktok fitness influencer bait slop

stray sigil
#

prob just do what feels right

chrome panther
#

only things i do past 5 or 6 reps are rehab stuff

clear pulsar
#

How tall are you bro eat food

stray sigil
#

im 5’10

#

im fine

clear pulsar
#

Are you perma dehydrated?

stray sigil
#

ofc

clear fox
#

Not me

clear pulsar
stray sigil
#

my lars bittle next to me always

stray sigil
#

need to do in reps of 10

chrome panther
#

i just kinda dread when my plan calls for 8+ reps of my main movements, ruins the entire session for me

#

my previous coach had a hardon for making his clients do the things they hated so for a whole training block (4 months) i was squatting sets of 20 twice a week garf

stray sigil
#

with normal weight or piss

#

cuz that sounds sussy

#

unless u mean hack machine mayb

chrome panther
#

started at 60% 1rm

#

so roughly 300lb for me

stray sigil
#

r u a powerlifter or some

chrome panther
#

yea

clear fox
#

500lb squat

#

Big

#

20 reps of 300 tho like

#

That’s just cardio wat

chrome panther
#

its pure misery

safe heart
#

I'm 5'1 144.6 today

vocal pollen
#

damn you can squat me

stray sigil
#

does seem like garbage sets a lot

#

no offense but idk

chrome panther
#

idk it def made this next block a joke mentally

stray sigil
chrome panther
#

sets of 3 mostly

clear fox
#

He can squat 3 of me

stray sigil
#

ig ye

#

broke u for this

chrome panther
#

every leg day is just kinda piss

#

like to approach mentally

safe heart
#

If you don't do classic physique you can chill on legs

chrome panther
#

im not doing bodybuilding/show stuff

#

and with my piss bench i cant let squat or dl lag behind tettleslul

vocal pollen
#

is everyone just on dragon these days

#

I look at my friendslist at any given moment and there's 9 aug alts

clear fox
#

Aug terrible in PvP

#

What’s the point

#

Massive in mythicals ?

chrome panther
#

gotta keep it ready incase rdruid gets turbo bonked

#

yeah its op in keys

vocal pollen
#

op in all pve

stray sigil
#

NO

#

PVE PIGS

#

FLOOR POV PIG

late wraith
#

ur all such skinny queens

#

get it girlies

vocal pollen
#

having a twink physique is ideal

late wraith
#

dg group

vocal pollen
#

lmfao

clear fox
#

I do have ideal twink shape 🤔

stray sigil
clear fox
#

Accurate arms

random patrol
#

otters are the best though

stray sigil
#

granny is a pig

late wraith
#

why the fuck

#

did you call me meep

stray sigil
#

im watching meep dont ask

#

lmfao

#

i got braindmg

late wraith
#

me and meep are a lot alike

#

young, talented, crashout a lot.

stray sigil
#

both condiments

#

its real

#

no

#

first 2 not real

#

3rd real

random patrol
#

mustard on a burger

late wraith
#

i mean i'm insane talented

stray sigil
late wraith
#

not necessarily at world of warcraft

#

but also definitely at world of warcraft

vocal pollen
random patrol
#

@vocal pollen yes

vocal pollen
#

fascinating

#

I'm talented at destroying these twice baked potatoes

#

god DAMN

#

so good

stray sigil
#

ur talented at floor pov

#

dumb pig

vocal pollen
stray sigil
vocal pollen
#

this is who u are flaming btw

#

im a wolf

stray sigil
#

good even more deserved

#

furry pig

#

real

random patrol
#

using both Nazeem and Heimskr as my followers good

#

also funny the most hated npcs in es5 are mostly from whiterun or riften

safe heart
#

Why do worgens exist

wintry jackal
#

i missed the furry allegations

#

as a feral main

clear fox
#

their cast animation

#

kinda nice tho

#

and imagine losing to a worgen druid in arena

#

with a lil top hat and all

random patrol
#

punting gnomes is fun

stray sigil
#

no way u would punt enji

#

no WAY

random patrol
#

Idk some rogue

#

punted him

#

what's worse is if your doing shuffle or blitz and your forced to play with them even as horde

#

their little scurryruns..............

tiny oar
#

I want to be a vulpera druid

halcyon siren
#

i want to be a gnome shadow priest

vocal pollen
#

I want vulpera druid

astral rune
#

Vulpera druid would be nice

vocal pollen
#

@grand mesa

#

its dead soon.

#

I can taste it

grand mesa
#

huge

wanton ridge
#

hope that helps

vocal pollen
#

I'll keep that in mind

wanton ridge
#

this was an evening full of emotions

#

and then the next thursday

#

we started raids at 8pm, first pull dead lol

vocal pollen
#

I have very mixed feelings on denathrius, it was my first ever CE (first tier raiding at all)

#

and we killed it literally the last week of the xpac

#

like if we didnt kill it taht night we would've missed CE

wanton ridge
#

yeah we got him towards the end as well

vocal pollen
#

or last week of patch I mean

wanton ridge
#

our 0.1% wipe the boss had 30k hp left

#

like, thats one starsurge crit

vocal pollen
#

look how far I've come now....

#

yeah denathrius was like that

#

very tight even for super low end guilds

wanton ridge
#

I think we had a 0.00001% wipe or something on sylvanas

vocal pollen
#

jesus

#

one of my friends guilds had a 0.2% wipe or smth on paladins this tier

wanton ridge
#

boss died at 45% I think, we were there, rip

#

I miss raiding but mostly for the ambiance, when you raid with cool people

#

that guild was like we were all in a living room together, just chilling, it was nice

stray sigil
#

when u floor povd

vocal pollen
#

did u see that clip I sent earlier

stray sigil
#

uhhh

vocal pollen
stray sigil
#

probs not i was raiding

vocal pollen
#

but yeah I enjoy the people I raid with I dont care much for the rank or content

wanton ridge
#

my guild was raiding 6hrs a week (2x3hrs), I ended up guild master/raid leader/recruit officer/loot handler/therapist, it was eh lol

stray sigil
#

i dont even know what im looking at

vocal pollen
#

literally just look at my name man

wanton ridge
#

always getting CE at the end of tiers was stressful

vocal pollen
#

phasedruid

#

thats all u need to see

vocal pollen
#

rank

stray sigil
#

ohl mfao

vocal pollen
#

we're world 100ish and we raid 12 hours a week

stray sigil
#

what a fucking noob

#

im telling ep

stray sigil
vocal pollen
#

shut up

stray sigil
#

ur in big trouble now

wanton ridge
vocal pollen
#

positively I hope

random patrol
#

day 60 of trying to get both eclipse bufs on one icon

#

crickets

tiny oar
random patrol
#

well it's like I only want one eclipse on my hud but if I select solar and then press the button while in lunar it doesnt show the buff

vocal pollen
#

doesnt the base eclipse UI do that

random patrol
#

pretty fucked really

vocal pollen
#

oh

#

I get what you mean

random patrol
#

yeah its stupid

vocal pollen
#

I think you might have to make your own thing for that tbh

random patrol
#

like it should auto swap

vocal pollen
#

yeah

random patrol
#

outside of m33kauras I dont know how

vocal pollen
#

yeah I meant making a whole ass addon

#

just for that

#

that is what the game has come to now so

random patrol
#

its pretty stupid yeah

#

pretty much just have to always be in solar or be forced to have to track both eclipses

vocal pollen
#

well if you play ec you only care about lunar anyway