#pvp

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astral rune
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Time to quit wow PvP for cs2

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Ooo there’s also Deadlock

clear pulsar
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Ok man I'm trying to flame you you cant keep agreeing with me

vocal pollen
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I didnt realise you were trying to flame me.....

grand mesa
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That’s 3/4 of face’s personality

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Backhanded statements

livid wasp
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dont play competitive games they are really bad

grand mesa
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The last 25% are purple and yellow transmogs

clear pulsar
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You rly dont know me at all

vocal pollen
clear pulsar
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Missing Taylor Swift and Pokemon

livid wasp
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im addicted to wow

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but something like league looks a lot unhealthier than wow

grand mesa
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Oh actually true

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And that pokemon rap rabbit hole u went down

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Or something along those lines

vocal pollen
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my guildies made fun of me when I played league with them last time they said im diamond in league and probably bronze in wow

astral rune
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You’re at least emerald in wow, don’t listen to them

vocal pollen
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thats what I said !!!!

astral rune
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Emerald is right below diamond, right?

vocal pollen
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yes

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iron bronze silver gold plat emerald diamond master

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pretty sure I could be masters if I grinded but I dont have that solo q grindset anymore

astral rune
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No way you forgot about challenger

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Get to challenger

vocal pollen
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ok obviously not but everyone knows gm and challenger

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yeah thats not happening

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maybe if league was my only game that I played 20 hours a day

astral rune
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Yea that’s true

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About the hours

vocal pollen
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gotta prep for sunday raid....

grand mesa
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Lock in

livid wasp
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infused heliotrope selling for nothing

astral rune
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The highest I saw it go was almost at 9k gold

livid wasp
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pvpers dont deserve money

cedar kernel
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how u burst whit balance druid?

livid wasp
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first use moonfire sunfire when he is fully dotted use inca and spam starsurge

stray sigil
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does this mean i lead the world

vocal pollen
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could be

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the watermelon is your world

stray sigil
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watermelon is metaphor for earth

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and im on top of it

late wraith
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Puzzle in trouble for sure

vocal pollen
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what if its a commentary on perspective

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to that hyrax his world is that watermelon

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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What do you play in dota @vocal pollen

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Like idk role heroes

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Game mode xdd

vocal pollen
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mid and carry

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oh

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I havent played in ages but I just played solo q all day

clear pulsar
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Crazy style, did you play Aghanim's Labyrinth when that was out?

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It's my fav thing in Dota lately

vocal pollen
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yes actually it was fun

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I like their weird dungeon crawl game modes

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arpg style

clear pulsar
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Yeah

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Rumor that a big one is coming next month

stray sigil
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dota

viscid remnant
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face = genius ?

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in dota itsz called position 1 2 3 etc 🤓

stray sigil
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dota is ass its real

grand mesa
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1-5 makes sense to me

astral rune
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dead lock has been fun

viscid remnant
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ragelock

tropic schooner
soft quail
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yoo guys do we craft double pango charm on rings? just making sure was reading through the pin/ also using murlok.io

clear pulsar
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You can do that or Arcanoweave Lining for more personal benefit, altho that one only goes on armor

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The 9 free heraldries line up for neck + 2 rings

soft quail
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what are people buying with conq first week? chest? legs?

clear pulsar
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No none of those are a thing
Jewelry is a smaller slot in stat budget but that's why it only costs 525 conquest / 3 heraldries
Bigger slots cost more, they're all in a similar ratio of stat per cost

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You'll also be able to catalyze any piece you want after you get 4p

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Or you can use conquest to buy PVP scaling for your PVE items

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These 2 here, if you really wanted to.

soft quail
clear pulsar
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I bought more heraldries and crafted engineering pure-mastery items xdd

lime light
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arms execute btw

clear pulsar
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But now I'm regreting it cuz it'll take longer to buy the pvp mog

soft quail
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thats really nice

clear pulsar
soft quail
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thank u bro!

clear pulsar
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But it kinda doesnt matter past week 2 or 3 anyways

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There's a new achievement this season

soft quail
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i have 2 set now already and wanna use it for pvp soo ill use that to scale them

clear pulsar
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After you complete 4p set bonus, you unlock catalyst charges drops from content

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So you just farm more catalyst charges doing PVE (or PVP also probably) and you can catalyze anything else

dense spindle
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Is the manaflux released every 2 weeks?

clear pulsar
dense spindle
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Painful.

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Maybe a FAQ Where's the best place to find rotations/reliable builds for pvp? I feel like I see a lot of different builds and rotation info, but everything seems sooo contradictory and your boy is so BAD..

clear pulsar
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What spec?

dense spindle
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Balance 😄

clear pulsar
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That's tuff idk maybe Rudar is posting content

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Supatease

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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@late wraith who posts boomie content in 2026?

dense spindle
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I was enjoying Feral, but I just wanted a little change.

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But one guide is like "shit throw out your FON and then combo"

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then another is like, SHIIITT dont throw how fon till they're entangled.

clear pulsar
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Rudar definitely, you can prob follow his TWW guides for gameplay stuff unless it mentions Eclipse, that's the only different mechanic now

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For builds it's kinda all whatever / pvp is art anyways you know?

dense spindle
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I feel you.

clear pulsar
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But yeah usually Rudar is the name for boomie content

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If he's posting rn

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Or at least streaming

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Jaybeezy on twitch also good player

dense spindle
astral birch
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For someone who’s a classic Andy what are heraldry’s?

dense spindle
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Brother is in Prowl.

clear pulsar
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The PVP equivalent of sparks/crests

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If you've read about those in PVE guides

dense spindle
astral birch
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Ah okie and how are they accquired?

dense spindle
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You can puchase them with Conquest

clear pulsar
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You get 9 for free each season after winning a game
Then you can buy more

dense spindle
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One of the quests also reward you with 9 purple ones.

clear pulsar
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There are honor heraldries too, and conquest

astral birch
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Oh sweet ty

dense spindle
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And greens you can get from opening the pvp Caches .

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But they booty cheeks.

late wraith
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And corkiy

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Both on twitch

clear pulsar
# late wraith Jaybeezy

Remember when we mopped the floor with him and his premade in hotmogu tsc tsc we really the goats or what

livid wasp
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I should queue but I dont wanna get mad right now on this saturday evening

wintry jackal
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Just wait for them to hit

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(I don’t play feral anymore)

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You either play feral long enough to tilt like Zech or swap off

livid wasp
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I mean it wont make blitz any easier to win

chrome panther
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only variable u can control is yourself zechey

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if you win mines every single AB, you will climb eventually

livid wasp
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well I can also say where people go at the start

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then its on gods hands

chrome panther
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idk if feral sits side node or goes to teamfight actually

livid wasp
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better at soloing around

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feral almost always goes mines st farm

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on deepwind gorge assigned to either solo at shrine or quarry farm

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ofc ab pops

tropic grove
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i have found a demon

livid wasp
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how can he keep queuing

chrome panther
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for the love of the game

stray sigil
grand mesa
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They really want the cata charge

tropic grove
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bro has played almost 300 rounds of shuffle already

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thats more than i do in an entire season

stray sigil
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is it a dps

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does it go even more demon

livid wasp
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why cant feral have any heals

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so squishy

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why bother casting

tropic grove
stray sigil
livid wasp
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funny how like 10 people have told me feral is getting buffed

tropic grove
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zechey you have to let it go brother

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this will only bring you pain

livid wasp
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nah

vocal pollen
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ok I need this

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how hard is getting duelist

stray sigil
vocal pollen
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ok doable

stray sigil
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rn impossible for the plebs

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wait

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its not duelist

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its 1950

clear pulsar
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It's at 1950, rival ii

stray sigil
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lmfao

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whats that site

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giving bad info

vocal pollen
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its official wow

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I think?

stray sigil
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LOL

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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2.1 is the wep mog

viscid remnant
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☠️

analog fox
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when a rogue dismantles me, should i pretend to be dismantled ?

lime light
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u lose weapon anyway

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so less stats

grand mesa
analog fox
stray sigil
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that was a thing in like wotlk

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thats not real anymore

analog fox
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are guardian druids one shotting people from 60% to 0 ? saw it happens twice in lobby

clear pulsar
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Yes

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It's lining up Ravage + echo from previous Ravage, this is gonna happen in the first ~12s of each Incarn, outside of that they do nothing

stray sigil
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ok iris is kidna piss

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but also these games are too low mmr

clear pulsar
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Complete piss

tiny oar
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all emblehshments are fux km ing PISS3

stray sigil
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40s long

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just oneshotting someone every round

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and both healers are clearly pvers

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by movement alone u can tell

clear pulsar
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Devouring bolt is piss too

tiny oar
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shoc8ker

stray sigil
halcyon siren
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Void shielding array only good embellish 8)

lime light
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one of the weapon

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enchant

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for a tank

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is broken

stray sigil
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its not that broken

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its a small ass shield

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just procs a lot

halcyon siren
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What a shock, void shielding array, also a tank embellish, is also broken

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Hm.

stray sigil
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isnt that the on use thing

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isnt it only 80k

halcyon siren
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90k yeah

clear pulsar
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Fugg it

halcyon siren
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What else could possibly be better embellish than a 20percent hp shield

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On a vers haste neck

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Shrug

tiny oar
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yyyy

halcyon siren
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Idk if it's 90k before or after the gemstone bandilier which boots jewelery embellishments by 2x

stray sigil
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i need it

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18% vers is very sketchy

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i died 100-0 in a half cap

clear pulsar
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Queued some yungle

tiny oar
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ohhhhhhh yippieee

random patrol
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cat typed this: 3ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

tiny oar
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I cajy wait to ide in a cheap spot though hots prebesr baytlemadyets

random patrol
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is it that good in instanced pvp though(enchant)

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prob get nerf into oblivion otherwise

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thing is on 90 k even a 50 percent nerf would make it decent in pvp

vocal pollen
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lowkey vers is a crutch

stray sigil
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the shield

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idk

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and its on use too

stray ermine
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What pvp bear build is the best now?

vocal pollen
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they will slur you for playing bear

halcyon siren
random patrol
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@stray sigil seems good though

viscid remnant
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@stray sigil 0 loots in 40 moons chests

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Holy chopped

tiny oar
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its so over

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Prayge I will pray for u davider

viscid remnant
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Its tuff

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Basically all day today

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I guess its okay because iam still getting the random loots

tiny oar
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its good loot at least yea

viscid remnant
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The bones and random herbs

vocal pollen
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@stray sigil

stray ermine
random patrol
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yeah cooldown will prob make it less good(still decent for when your focused)

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@stray sigil says 3 minute down Ill look in game though(neck)

stray sigil
random patrol
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def a secondary craft

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a oh fuck last resort pretty much shuffle item

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they should bring back prenerf sporecloak and maledict

tiny oar
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no

tough yoke
vocal pollen
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sporecloak was the best embellish they made in like god knows how long

random patrol
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better yet make it so you can use 2

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sporecloak and mushroom wrist

vocal pollen
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hmm

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idk about that one...

random patrol
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29 people in discord for raid

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all druids

tiny oar
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incredible vibes

misty shuttle
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how much do you spam regrowth when u get the instant cast procs?

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as feral

vocal pollen
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I want to join the 29 druid raid....

brazen glacier
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Question what do I do as a balance Druid when getting my asshole rammed in solo shuffle?

For now I’ve

  1. try and hold off barkskin but if 2 go on me with cds I pop it

  2. if not enough I go bear and pop the big heal idk what it’s called

  3. if still not enough I pop the 20% bonus max health in bear

  4. at this point idk what else I can do but sit in bear

In between this I will try and go back to boomie form and dps or vortex but I still find I need to go back into bear is there anything else I can do

late wraith
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as shit as it feels, if you're spending a ton of time in bear, it's pretty much guaranteed a loss

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bear is only for if your healer is in cc

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you have to just start sending damage. you need to counter with damage. that's your best defense. you need them not to feel like they're able to just stand and beat into you and the more time you spend in bear the less damage you're doing, the less pressure you're doing the more behind your healer is falling. trust the healer, bear frenzied when they're in cc otherwise do damage.

misty shuttle
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if only healers could be trusted

late wraith
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it is also a good reverse pressure to get cc on their healer. they are less able to keep pressure on you with their healer in a root beam > clone and you sending incarn.

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3s is different, it's organized and i play with a rogue but in solo shuffle i act the same, i chase their healer around, cc healer for my own setup, plant and do damage. if i don't have damge i cycle cc on the two dps on their damage.

late wraith
# misty shuttle if only healers could be trusted

to be honest yeah sometimes they're newer but i think a lot of times as boomy not trusting your healer is how you end up dragging a game out till you're just too far behind. you can really make their lives a whole lot easier by cycling clones on dps, baiting out kicks so they're freed up and aren't eating them, boxing the enemy healer so they can't run at yours and fuck with them... like we have a ton of agency as boomy and tons of ways to help the healer out but being in bear when they're not in cc is the worst option.

random patrol
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"this chicken almost never goes bear"

clear pulsar
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Also have to counter with clones and other CC

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Mass root melees

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Typhoon them away

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WC out of form to your healer is a longer range escape than the boomie disengage

late wraith
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yeah we have an absolutely stupid amount of cc

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we can do so much on our own it's crazy

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typhoon and root melee then cast clones right in their faces. like simply be a demon. be a horrible little shit. make everyone's life hard except your healer

stray sigil
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boomy is op

late wraith
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sure

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if you're a confident boomy you will commit acts of terrorism. it's the class fantasy

stray sigil
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boomy is op no matter what its real

late wraith
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sure little mans

misty shuttle
late wraith
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well i'm not sure what to tell you it's a huge part of it

misty shuttle
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I'd literally rather play guardian than fake cast

late wraith
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then play a melee

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that is not feral

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cause they also have to juke

misty shuttle
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disgusting

late wraith
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i mean i don't see what's so bad about it. if melee are running at you, stop the cast when they're in range you will get every warrior or ret every time

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and even if you do eat the kick, you've eaten one of 2 kicks in the lobby (3 if rsham fuck rsham.)

misty shuttle
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didn't they remove resto sham kick?

late wraith
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i thought they were the only healer that kept theirs

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everyone else lost it

lavish pagoda
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Rsham still has kick, its just long cd

grand mesa
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30s kick

late wraith
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good.

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fuck rsham

misty shuttle
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haha

late wraith
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the real trash mini game as boomy is stomping totems/dealing with shamans. that is garbage. hate that whole class.

vocal pollen
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fuck rsham

grand mesa
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well u won't see rsham

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so

vocal pollen
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true

grand mesa
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can be 3 little pdfs in arena without worrying about grounding totem KEKL

late wraith
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boomy not a pdf. boomy not on the epstein list

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just generally a pervert that everyone avoids

grand mesa
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if yo've been on the island alot with sub

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and ur on the flight log

late wraith
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not on the flight log

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got denied in a real embarrassing way like elon musk

stray sigil
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ur def on the log

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bitch pls

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BE FOR REAL

late wraith
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epic girls rule

stray sigil
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U PLAY BOOMY SUB MW

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U ARE ON THE LOG

late wraith
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no

stray sigil
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U ARE TOP 10 ON THE LOG

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FIURST 10 PPL

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UR THERE

late wraith
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i associate with people on the logs which implicates me

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but i'm not on the logs

vocal pollen
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sadly I do as well

clear pulsar
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Resto druid also epstein island spec

grand mesa
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resto druid is the victim on the island rn

clear pulsar
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  • 2026, zechey
tiny oar
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LOL

random patrol
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boomy is actuall ngl prob best caster

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or second

clear pulsar
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No shot

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It's maybe 4th

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Or 5th

vague venture
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anyone else have issue with rating suddenly disappearing from the rated tab? shows 0 on everything, then when im inside rated bg or arena it's showing again

vocal pollen
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resto druid should be good as the hardest spec in the game

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high skill expression = high reward

clear pulsar
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If you're outside doing stuff as idk guardian but your rating is as DPS it'll show you 0 for what you have as guardian

vague venture
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haha really, had no idea. thanks!

clear pulsar
random patrol
stray sigil
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face hates me doesnt wanna 2s

grand mesa
worldly cave
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Squint went from earning 40 rating a match, to 4

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dafuq

late wraith
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your cr is reaching your mmr

tiny oar
stray sigil
tiny oar
grand mesa
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it was fun

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was a bizarre feeling seeing my hp not perma dead

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@tiny oar i tried some tech,.,,

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press counter strike totem right when aimed shot is about to finish

clear pulsar
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Holy the tail on that bunny

chrome panther
tiny oar
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GET WRECKED MM HUNTER

stray sigil
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didnt u play

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rdru mm this week

worldly cave
vocal pollen
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it will

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just have faith in blizzard

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they will not let you down

worldly cave
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Guess its time to wait a week or two.

stray ermine
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What determines queue times? my ally frost mage (very popular spec) is like 8 min, and my horde feral is 17min

brazen glacier
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isnt it just number of healers queuing at a given time

stray ermine
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oh wait maybe its CR, feral is at 0 mage is at 1660

late wraith
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it's based on mmr

stray ermine
late wraith
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spec popularity also not an impact

chrome panther
stray sigil
stray sigil
stray ermine
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arcane thats 0 CR also has 20 min

stray sigil
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1st q is always the longest

stray ermine
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ahh yeah its the 1st queue then

stray sigil
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my 1st q was 22min

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2nd was like 5

late wraith
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i guess you can't have like all the same?

stray sigil
late wraith
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specs?

stray sigil
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the system "tries" to make u not play with dupes ye

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"tries"

stray ermine
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yeah, they had said that when they first introduced shuffle

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they didnt want a room full of frost mages

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so they force variance if possible

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so a non fotm spec will have faster queue times

narrow totem
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Is there a way to track DRs anymore?

late wraith
stray sigil
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mydr's can track ur own dr

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thats the name of addon

narrow totem
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Enemy arena frames

late wraith
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yes

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hang on

stray sigil
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that should be baseline in the game

late wraith
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are you using any addons?

narrow totem
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NO sadly

late wraith
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okay so it's in base

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let me find it

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very bottom of gameplay enhancements

narrow totem
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TY! any other addons youd reccomend

stray sigil
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mini cc

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sarena or gladius

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dont think need much more than that

late wraith
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and is just better

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looks like this it's good

clear pulsar
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Is diminish dead @grand mesa

grand mesa
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For yourself no

clear pulsar
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I need nameplates DR tracker

stray sigil
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there is one

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ur idk the name

grand mesa
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Nameplass Dr tracker is dead yes

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They broke that recently

stray sigil
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oh rly i saw it in someone stream

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rip

grand mesa
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Recently ?

stray sigil
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might have been xiuni

grand mesa
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think they broke it a week or two ago

stray sigil
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not 100p

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maybe only worked in pve

grand mesa
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This is the personal Dr one

clear pulsar
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Also why does everybody except druid have a 70% slow

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I was legit getting kited by fury warriors

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Insane

tiny oar
clear pulsar
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Hpala drops consecration on me and I'm toast

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Can not reach a fury warrior

grand mesa
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Lmao

grand mesa
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I had a funny game tn where rdruid tried to the the damage opener out of cat form with his dps partner maiming and feral frenzy he died like 4s later. He actually applied rip too KEKL

stray sigil
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have u tried to uh shift

stray sigil
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did his convoke shit

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and died

narrow totem
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Hmm i cant sem to get sarena to work is it this?

grand mesa
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that is the correct one yeah

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The author of the other fork managed to get himself banned completely from curseforge lol

clear pulsar
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It's a 20yd ground slow

stray sigil
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or u mean the hpal made the fury kite u

clear pulsar
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Yeah it's crazy

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Paladin kit is unreal

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They need to shit on that class more than anything in this game

narrow totem
narrow totem
late wraith
grand mesa
late wraith
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i'll dm it to you it's long

clear pulsar
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I swear if Consecrated Ground slow was as weak as Infected Wounds, this would be the biggest nerf to paladin in all of life

grand mesa
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idk why that thing still exists

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ngl

stray sigil
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its real

tiny oar
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its real

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fuck paladins

clear pulsar
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Why tf do they even need a slow that strong, they're ranged

tiny oar
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Clapcat spitting

stray sigil
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why do they have access to 3 immunities

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why do they have lay that ignores ms

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why do they have conq slow

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why do they do dmg

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why is lightsmith a thing

grand mesa
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I like how they normalized CDs amongst healers and classes that had a cd rotation identity (rsham) got fucked. But they didn’t Normalize externals

stray sigil
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every healer lost a cd no

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what did pala lose

grand mesa
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I think the idea is they pared everyone down to 2 raid CDs generally speaking

stray sigil
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except for satoru gojo of course moment

grand mesa
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Disc has evange and barrier/uppies. I have asc/tide + slink

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Etc etc

stray sigil
grand mesa
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they have wings+AM presumably. Holy priest is hymn + apoth (they lost symbols). Rdruid kinda lost flourish and are tranq+tree/convoke

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but externals are like some classes have 0 then on the other end of spectrum u got gojo

vocal pollen
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they ruined the game is what they did

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I will curse blizzard till the day I die for amirdrassil and this patch

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if you find me on my deathbed just know I put a curse of sickness on every blizzard guy

safe heart
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if i have mentor bonus should i turn in my delves earlier

viscid remnant
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Hello

tiny oar
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good morning david

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another day another perilous moons chest innit

clear pulsar
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Chase that bread

viscid remnant
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Yep

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Iam logging in a few

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arr

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my potato cactus died wtf man

vocal pollen
#

dude wtf

#

take care of your potato cactus man

viscid remnant
#

its random man what can i do

late wraith
#

It scales so you get more value higher level

#

Do it at 88 and you’ll be a few bars into 89 towards 90

stray sigil
stray sigil
viscid remnant
#

ITS RANDOM

late wraith
#

@clear pulsar are you playing pokopia

clear pulsar
#

Nooo it wouldnt make sense

#

It doesnt look like my type of game to spend that money on it

late wraith
#

Fair enough. I want to try it I’m just worried I’m gonna go go full hyper fixation like stardew valley

stray sigil
viscid remnant
#

i guyess i beat the impossible odds

#

pig unc

stray sigil
lime light
#

Explain in polish

viscid remnant
halcyon siren
late wraith
#

Yeah might need to let that mmr cook a bit

clear pulsar
#

Or you play and you learn and get better!

viscid remnant
tardy hare
#

nah

vocal pollen
#

is there anything better in this world than learning and improving at something you are passionate about??

viscid remnant
#

best brazil player since coldzera ?

lime light
#

pasha better brazial player

clear pulsar
lime light
#

how cute

#

in a scale from 10 to 10

late wraith
clear pulsar
#

2/10 low ilvl pleb

lime light
#

?

#

but 2 blue tiems

clear pulsar
#

Yes?

#

Plebs have blue items it's true

late wraith
#

Show ur midnight epic achieve rn or you lose control of this discord and I take over

vocal pollen
#

warrior stinky class

#

do better

lime light
#

on shaman ofc

#

shaman epic

#

EPIC EP

#

hoooly

clear pulsar
#

Leave em out like the laundry

#

High, dry, gone

vocal pollen
#

epic...

lime light
#

guardian player pls

#

PLS

#

that we tolerate you in EPgrove

#

means a lot already

#

but pls

livid wasp
#

500 gold isnt enough for ring crafters

vocal pollen
#

500 gold wont be enough for any crafter rn

#

people want the big bucks

lime light
#

how much for whole item

#

what i got into

#

a fucking delve

#

with mirrors

#

and held hostage for hours

#

there

#

the delve should be a simple thing

#

for a simple

#

man

#

for a simple

#

EP

#

for a simple

#

woyer

#

for a simple

#

do damgur dont die

vocal pollen
#

delves are easy just play

tardy hare
#

bruh

#

how do you fail mirror

livid wasp
#

we play video games to escape the gruesome reality of the real world with all the jobs and the financial issues just to have to deal with gold in this god damn fantasy video game that is supposed to be an escape for some people

lime light
livid wasp
#

cant even have a working communism in a fantasy world

vocal pollen
#

yes its pretty dogshit how expensive the game is early in the tier these days

#

they wanted to make professions relevant I guess

lime light
#

this one

#

too short

livid wasp
#

im not paying more than 1k per ring

lime light
#

hoow much are mats

#

for the ring

#

iam not paying more than 100g to a crafter

#

thats obv

#

not my problem, they work for EP

clear pulsar
tardy hare
# lime light

bruh you can literally just grab 1 mirror everytime

#

and point it at the next

#

ape

lime light
#

iam one mirror short

#

mirrors shortage

clear pulsar
#

Just look for a crafter or a guild and send persona/guild order

tardy hare
#

there's so many mirrors lmao

livid wasp
#

is the suggested amount it gives the amount of gold people are paying right now when you put the mats in

#

yesterday when I put the orders in it was 1k per ring now it was 5k

vocal pollen
#

no one cares about the suggested amount people want like 5k gold for trade chat orders

#

they are asking that much because people are willing to pay that much

#

levelling professions isnt free either

#

costs time + gold

lime light
#

they enjoy it

#

they should craft for free

#

or for a "tip"

#

and a tip is 100g

vocal pollen
#

100g doesnt even buy water these days in this game

tardy hare
#

100g is what you loot off a random mob

vocal pollen
#

I love doing a 40 minute m+ dungeon and looting 145 gold from the end of dungeon chest (my repairs from dying twice in there were 300g)

clear pulsar
#

But people can only do 1 public order a day

#

Nobody's blowing that on 500g

#

Ask in trade for a crafter anyone should do it for 500g if its personal order

lime light
#

ye ofc

#

i thought thats obv

#

u ask in trade

#

and pay a tip

#

which is 100g

#

not thro the public order

livid wasp
#

I used my guild

#

guild benefits

#

ill also get free curve some day

lime light
#

ok if EP sells this

#

650g tip

#

for a ring crafters

late wraith
#

I do 2000-5000 tip normally

lime light
#

ok...

#

EP will do 850

late wraith
#

Cause they just won’t do it if it’s low

lime light
#

they lazy pigs?

late wraith
#

If someone is taking those then you’re getting a sweet deal don’t pay more

#

Early season not as many people with the PvP recipes

#

And the pve ones need concentration to 5*

#

So it’ll just sit there if you pay low

lime light
#

we need an expert

#

the german expert

#

economy expert

#

@tropic schooner

#

100g tip for a craft is a 150g over a limit?

tropic schooner
#

about what

#

ehm

#

what

lime light
#

nothing just memeing

#

Zechey started to complain

#

he has to pay a crafter

#

so he crafts it

late wraith
lime light
#

and we started memeing

tropic schooner
late wraith
#

LOL

#

shiiiiiid

lime light
#

xD

tropic schooner
#

zechey complains about crafting

#

meanwhile im lvling a char to 80 to setup a third JC

viscid remnant
#

hes right you know

tropic schooner
viscid remnant
#

the amount of gold this stuff costs is absolutely shameless

tropic schooner
#

not sure which part, but sure some

#

but 5k isnt it

#

pvp crafting is next to free

livid wasp
#

you already have to work in real life why do people take joy in working in a virtual fantasy world too

viscid remnant
#

Idk prices atm

#

But when i was playing last time it was shameless

tropic schooner
#

pvp crafting last 2 expansions were always cheap af

#

cause you dont care about quality

#

so just yeet in some low rank mats and put a few k tip

#

and its insta crafted

late wraith
#

Yeah I do 2k for PvP

#

And 5k for pve

#

and they get done insta

tropic schooner
#

well for pve I would not risk public order

late wraith
#

I have done it and man have I ever gotten mad

tropic schooner
#

that sounds

#

somewhat self inflicted

late wraith
#

Like sticking a fork in a socket and being upset at the outcome? Yes.

#

I was impatient

tropic schooner
#

maybe try with some metal chopsticks before

late wraith
#

Yeah different shaped object surely

viscid remnant
#

Its shameless

late wraith
#

What’s shameless

#

You don’t even go here why would you be upset about crafting costs

tropic schooner
late wraith
#

True angry saw a 40k public order for a belt or something I was like da hell

vocal pollen
#

I dont mind crafting costs but I think enchant and gem costs are a bit obscene

#

fully enchanting a character cost me almost 100k earlier this week

tardy hare
#

not buying enchants till im full conq

#

ngl

tropic schooner
#

enchant costs seem not too bad atm

#

like 5-10k ea for max quality

#

isnt too bad

#

gems might be tho havent checked

tropic schooner
late wraith
#

They dropped same day I bought one for 30k. I bought it before raid and after raid it was 19k

#

I was huge mad

tropic schooner
lime light
#

but i heard u are a guardian

#

pver

late wraith
#

I am

tropic schooner
#

oh ye 5 gemdust 1 gem itself yikes

late wraith
#

I’m my guild’s main tank I have to be big and strong

tropic schooner
#

thats like ~14k in mats

#

so the gem is prolly around 10k

late wraith
#

and beat half the Dps on meters and never shut up about that

vocal pollen
#

I need to kill bosses so I also have to be big and strong

#

weapon enchants the most scam of them all

#

the one I bought was like 40k

tropic schooner
#

wouldnt be surprised if the costs go up

#

next week

late wraith
#

Same yeah

tropic schooner
vocal pollen
#

yeah probably

late wraith
#

But I think it’ll be a very fast spike and crash

tropic schooner
#

but yea last week the epic gems

vocal pollen
#

a bit too late though because I've already spent a ton of gold

tropic schooner
#

were real expensive

#

now they are like 4-5k

#

last week up to 9

#

but ye price of gems is forced by the evil gatherers

lime light
#

one of the enchants

#

is broken in pvp

#

for weapon

#

soul some shit

#

its a shield

tropic schooner
#

broken in this case meaning too good?

lime light
#

yes

#

for dual wielding classes

#

like enh fury rogue

#

u can get one damgur one

#

and other that shit

#

i think that was it

safe heart
misty shuttle
#

for feral, how strong would you say Lunar Inspiration is? It doesn't seem to do that much dmg for me, and wondering whether taking carn instinct might be better

livid wasp
#

nice to gen combos at range

livid valve
#

u can def get away without playing it and rocking 2x carn instinct

#

depends what u pref and need

lime light
#

dude

#

is that normal

#

in blitz

#

to play 6vs8 3 games in a row

#

there is no way

#

ppl dc that often or are like

#

fuck this

#

before even game starts

#

kinda wild

tulip falcon
lime light
#

idk

#

iam with demons now

misty shuttle
misty shuttle
# livid valve depends what u pref and need

at the moment, I feel like my damage is all rot and very little burst, and rot seems like it's not particularly impactful. most games I play are won by burst or healers failing

livid valve
#

incarn provides the burst aspect, if u just spam shred and bite with ur bleeds up its a huge ramp up of dmg but yeah compared to all the broken speccs ur burst is definitely lacking

misty shuttle
#

do you think I'm better off flitting between the 3 enemies and keeping up dots or am I better off focusing on one / sometimes dotting 2?

halcyon siren
livid valve
misty shuttle
#

ok, ty. and do you usually try to CC the healer or one of the dps?

lime light
#

lmao @halcyon siren

misty shuttle
#

yeah my damage just feels terrible rn

worldly cave
late wraith
#

If you have fun doing it then hell yeah. It sounded like you might just want the mog but if you like the challenge that’s awesome keep going

#

If you ever record vods you can share moments that felt tough people on here can try to troubleshoot you through them

charred crystal
#

some1 can tell me what soft cap i need for mastery and haste?

halcyon siren
#

No softcaps in retail wow

#

You can go pretty far into stat Dr and not really be affected/sometimes it's Still just better

#

But we won't hit Dr in s1

tulip falcon
halcyon siren
#

I can hit frost

#

But not ret that wants to kite me

#

Or hpal

#

It's deranged

livid wasp
#

how do you win krassz

tulip falcon
#

win what

chrome panther
tulip falcon
#

ret's kit is the dumbest shit

chrome panther
#

classes applying AOE slow ground effects as part of its rotation is so toxic

tulip falcon
#

make bubble reduce damage again please

#

braindead design whenever they changed that

livid wasp
#

youre right

#

but how do you win blitz become the best

tulip falcon
#

the same way you win every other season

#

queue and cross your fingers

halcyon siren
#

Did the same shit

#

Removed because unbearable

#

And yet here we are?

clear pulsar
#

Wrath unholy eh?

halcyon siren
#

Yeah

tulip falcon
#

try to kite a ret on their cds and they just ride at you on a horse with immunity

chrome panther
#

wrath is a fever dream

tulip falcon
#

cant even outplay that spec

halcyon siren
#

I played wrath classic, had fun, more fun than og wrath I think tbh.

#

Shred critting fir 4k on 25k hp

#

Lowkey take me back

tulip falcon
#

being able to attack under bop, doing full damage under bubble, divine steed, lower cd on forbearance etc

#

i used to have respect for ret before all that

#

was a pretty high skillcap spec

halcyon siren
#

Lol

clear pulsar
#

Paladin rly is war crimes

chrome panther
#

funny they combined wake and wings

halcyon siren
#

It's okay they're dragged SOON

chrome panther
#

30sec go + 30sec hoj + horse

#

hmm.

tulip falcon
#

the seal swapping thing you could take as a talent in wod was really interesting

#

wasn't used much but it was cool to play

halcyon siren
#

30 sec tf 30 sec maim 30sec ff 30 sec wild charge

#

Hmm

chrome panther
#

maim should be free after using tf

#

and have 20yd range

clear pulsar
#

I hate it

#

Give me back mismatched cds

tulip falcon
#

im just glad its identity has remained relatively consistent compared to other specs over the years

livid wasp
#

you still turn into a cat and attack

grand mesa
#

i love everythiung being in 30s 1min 2min intervals

tulip falcon
#

i miss bloodtalons tho fr

tulip falcon
#

then you just turn into a uhh

#

thing

#

Rat form

clear pulsar
#

Love haranir fr

halcyon siren
#

I knew how much I'd miss swarm and damn do I miss swarm.

#

Mangle could fix me.

lime light
#

the ret issue is

#

everyone can play there

#

there is nothing complex

#

u just play

#

and u are a range spec

#

with insane burst

#

immunity

#

offheals

#

and u also mobile somehow now

#

and u can also slow someone

#

the only thing u dont have is MS

#

maybe they should consider that one

#

also

halcyon siren
#

I really think it's mostly the slow man. Slows need to get the infected wound treatment

lime light
#

u are that holy tht u ne

#

reduce enemys healing taken

#

by 35%

#

and if u bubble everyone gets sharpen blade on them

#

since u had to bubble

#

but thats one thing

lime light
#

sub rogue is another one

#

30% versa, enrage, deff stance, wall

clear pulsar
#

Paladin is Lebron of wow classes

lime light
#

and u can die in a cheap

#

how the fuck someone can die thro 15% / 5% / 15% / 30% dmg reduction in a cheap

#

its gonna be like what around 50% dr or so

#

or a bit more

tulip falcon
#

it used to be a fairly hard spec to play

#

talking like forever ago but yea

lime light
#

nah, it was never hard, it was anoying to play

#

since u were actually melee

#

and the only range was judg

#

that was just piss dmg, and a slow

tulip falcon
#

most other things didn't have much as mobility/slows/roots etc then though

halcyon siren
#

Anybody smarter than me know the over under on using 6/6 hero tier and pushing conquest off items first

clear pulsar
#

Is that equal to honor ilvl?

soft quail
#

guessing r druid is the worse healer atm? or im just terrible, im hard stuck 1550.

halcyon siren
clear pulsar
#

Rsham gives it a run for it

soft quail
#

ok im not just bad then thank u,

clear pulsar
#

I dont think rdru does the least healing, definitely not

#

Just has the worst recovery / cd trades

soft quail
#

like theres games against mw, im oom he has 80% mana

clear pulsar
#

In 3v3? Or shuffle

soft quail
#

2s

#

trynna get 1600 for tier piece XD

clear pulsar
#

Oh

halcyon siren
#

I don't think 1550 in 2s is even that bad rn

soft quail
#

im not glad but i have high xp on rdudu, played many seasons

soft quail
halcyon siren
#

You face decent people at like 16 17 mmr as of yesterday ish

soft quail
halcyon siren
#

Maybe dif today

clear pulsar
#

So it's fine

halcyon siren
#

Gunna do that then I think,

clear pulsar
#

Did you send catalyst charges already?

halcyon siren
#

Nah

#

I have lfr 2x normal 1x plus some heroic bosses

#

Before I send catalyst

#

Praying for 4p Tues

#

Then mythic marathon for hero tier and 6/6 them all

#

Gives me a chance to get bis sooner with tier in vault

clear pulsar
#

If you get 4p from PVE you can just catalyze conquest pieces after anyways

halcyon siren
#

I got very lucky last season and myth chest helm shoulders first 3 myth vaults

soft quail
halcyon siren
#

Saved thousands of conquest

dusty cairn
#

will change in 3 days tho

grand mesa
#

It’s not hpal or mw but I’m not so sure that rsham is completely terrible

soft quail
dusty cairn
#

yes but in pve only

soft quail
#

huh?

#

there turbo broken, i personally think

dusty cairn
#

disc is good healer atm, nowhere near mw & hpal but very good

soft quail
dusty cairn
#

well it's the best healer with mw

clear pulsar
#

But ofc could just be brainfarts, randomly bad player, etc

vocal pollen
#

shamans also suck so u have to consider that

grand mesa
#

people not palying totemic

clear pulsar
#

Hpala is crazy style

grand mesa
#

im very curious how much

#

the two nerfs brick them

#

-30% mana regen sounds p bad

#

but apparently that talent was giving htem insane wings uptime?

#

every time they judge

#

whatever that thing is they dramatically reduced proc chance

chrome panther
#

its this.

#

the judgements that absolutely crank dick

dusty cairn
#

i thought pres would be higher on the shuffle ladder, everyone was hyping up the spec before season start

grand mesa
#

pres is weird

dusty cairn
#

is it fun to play? im leveling one as devastation atm

grand mesa
#

i dislike it personally

#

i don't like the ping pong of we're all dead jk we're all topped jk we're all dead jk we're all alive we're so safe

dusty cairn
#

i see

#

im trying out other healers but only druid is giving me that vibe i love

#

its crazy

halcyon siren
#

What vibe is that

grand mesa
#

took me a bit to move away from druid and enjoy other shit

dusty cairn
#

cant stay behind healing like a bot, gotta be proactive

#

lovin this

clear pulsar
#

Just an issue of player count

#

Its been rly good many seasons but it's tough spec

dusty cairn
#

(>1800 shuffle eu)

chrome panther
#

if vw and mw just stopped existing for 1 season

vocal pollen
#

this is why we should kill every monk player

#

at least every mw player