pvp

[halcyon siren]

I think this was the second coolest bgb title

[livid wasp]

second out of all 3

[halcyon siren]

Ya

Forged was the coolest I think

What's next one?

[livid wasp]

Astral Warlord is the best one

[random patrol]

rip old friend

[livid wasp]

o7

[wintry jackal]

Things that are fun. Spend time with people you love

[wintry jackal]

Sorry for your loss voodoo

Idk I don’t enjoy BGs

Ehhhh idk there are people I know who couldn’t break 2000 in arena earlier this season who I saw get strategist s1

I think it was just hyper inflated

[livid wasp]

you just need to grind it enough while having a general idea of what to do and youll go 3k

[stray sigil]

o7

[wintry jackal]

It’s all pixels at the end of the day and like others said PvP is a mini game

I wanna pve this next season

Val I’m actually kinda excited for the feral rework now

[livid wasp]

I just like the fact there is a social aspect in wow too, doesnt exist in single players

or comp games like league

or cs 2

[halcyon siren]

I mean it's fine if you don't like bgs but the reality is blitz is not nearly as low agency as many non Blitz players seem to think. Like any mode, there is specific knowledge gaps.

[stray sigil]

fair ye

[wintry jackal]

That makes sense to me, I acknowledge my opinion comes from a place of not playing it

If ppl have fun climbing it that’s a win

[random patrol]

og rdruid form

[halcyon siren]

I can log any character even specs I've never played and hit 2500+ in blitz if I try in 1 season because I knowledge gap the noobs easily and there are guys who make me look like a total noob as well,

It's the same in any mode. Ran into 2 r1s in shuffle this season and was totally helpless to take even 1 round off them

1 was on outlaw

Other on demo

[wintry jackal]

Valid

[livid wasp]

im 3.3k, pretty close to the top but theres still quite a gap between me and the best players

[halcyon siren]

Ya and like zechey is probably never losing a 1600 round

Or even a 2k round

[livid wasp]

yeah dunno

[halcyon siren]

Unless somebody is afk

[livid wasp]

stil about the team

but if I play enough I get higher mmr

[halcyon siren]

Yeah sure, but you're never gunna be trapped at low mmr

Ever

[livid wasp]

does mmr reset for new expansion

[halcyon siren]

Because the mode does in fact have a lot of agency

[safe heart]

I honestly would never think there's alot of agency in a bg

But I also don't play it

[halcyon siren]

ESPECIALLY healers have way more agency in blitz than in shuffle. I'm shuffle you are at the mercy of your dps

In blitz you are the core of the team

[safe heart]

I guess if you have 4 extra dps it's harder for 1 to let you down

[random patrol]

"personally won a 40 man bg for the team while they were dps boss same time as enemy by holding off 3 people from recapping the grave"(epic but yeah small things addup would even be more important in smaller games)

[halcyon siren]

Healer gap and healer brain gap in blitz is insanely game warping

[halcyon siren]

Why?

[wintry jackal]

Yes

[halcyon siren]

What has changed your mind

[wintry jackal]

I actually think from a PvP standpoint it will be more fun with decent skill expression

[halcyon siren]

I'm despairing hard about feral pve and maining resto in pve-

[wintry jackal]

I loved bloodtalons cus I was used to it

But it sucked to manage

[halcyon siren]

Oh yeah in pvp if numbers are good I'm optimistic about feral pvp

[wintry jackal]

I also like the apex talents

And changes to the feral tree (minus chomp)

[halcyon siren]

Yeah they're thematic and cool

[wintry jackal]

Do you think dotc will be picked in PvP

With the changes

[halcyon siren]

Depends but yes

If numbers are there and go the way I think they will go yes.

[stray sigil]

didnt u say the way the proc works is not changed

0 chance its played over ws

if its the same

[wintry jackal]

It gives a bleed now

And lowers damage

[halcyon siren]

Yes it's still based on number of autos

[stray sigil]

ye so it doesnt matter

ws is so consistent dmg wise

seems hella troll

[wintry jackal]

Damn that will be crazy if we’re stuck ws all xpac again

[halcyon siren]

But I think it could see play because it buffs feral frenzy and I think feral frenzy chomp windows will be all your lethality

Unless bleeds get retuned to be more of the danage profile

[stray sigil]

ff typically doesnt scale very well

in an xpac

[halcyon siren]

It's giga

[stray sigil]

might be ok in s1

[halcyon siren]

In mid

[stray sigil]

but by the time its s3 or w.e

and hp pools are x3 bigger

ff dmg is a lot less insane

[halcyon siren]

Guess we'll see.

[wintry jackal]

Hm

There’s talents they added in reg tree that buff ff

I think that’s more a tuning thing

[stray sigil]

happened in sl

happened in df but we had that stupid talent

[wintry jackal]

I also think adaptive swarm not being in the picture changes things

[stray sigil]

kinda overwrited it

but happens like every xpac

[wintry jackal]

Cus adaptive buffed ff

How does ww look Fuji

[stray sigil]

@halcyon siren theres a bunch of nodes that just buff bleeds in ws

so buffs ff too

so idt its gonna change personally

[stray sigil]

better but more like it was in df i think

just looking at the tree

[halcyon siren]

Also tigers fury first time in combat makes first Bite into ravage

[stray sigil]

its so close between flat 25 to only 1 ability

vs like something around 18 or so +

on everything

while also affecting ff

[halcyon siren]

So I think opener is going to be explosiveb

Abd if u get res

[stray sigil]

could be playable if its like rly overtuned

but i dont see it if its like relative to ws

ws just gonna be more consistent

[halcyon siren]

Rn the damage profile is heavily skewed to shred, auto, frenzy

[stray sigil]

in pve right

[halcyon siren]

I think chomp will also be played

[stray sigil]

thats not always very 1 to 1 to pvp

[wintry jackal]

Not having lunar is gonna suck tho

So bad

[halcyon siren]

I tested dotc and ws

[livid wasp]

midnight looks so unappealing

[halcyon siren]

Dotc was tankier and gave felt good

[tiny oar]

good u can finally quit then!!

[halcyon siren]

I think it could be played that's all

[stray sigil]

time to type

time to play hpal

[livid wasp]

dont think I can

[safe heart]

Give natural orders will as a talent

[stray sigil]

whats that agane enjer

[tiny oar]

ur kinda right i fear

[halcyon siren]

All ur dam (pathetic as it is in pvp on betA) is feral frenzy lol

[safe heart]

Regen on start/end of barkskin

Also

[stray sigil]

i forgor all about that leggo

[safe heart]

Is Sprenji good name

[livid wasp]

imagine having some hobby that isnt in a video game and affected by loony devs' changes

[stray sigil]

it was funny playing that vs rmp for sure

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

Yeah I use to run vs rmp only

[halcyon siren]

So ya dotc felt better byt admittedly I am not a cranked feral lowkey

So

[safe heart]

Just to FUCK EM

[stray sigil]

and then they just kill ur huntard

need savage roar back

frfr

ong

[halcyon siren]

Ye

Old sav roar

Wrath sav roar

[tiny oar]

I dont need to imagine that I live it every day thankfully

[stray sigil]

U PLAY OSRS AND WOW U PIG

UR IN THIS SHIT TOO

PIG FUCK

[halcyon siren]

I tryst the osrs devs

More than wow

And it's not close

Osrs is the best mmo I've ever played

[livid wasp]

what is that hobby

[halcyon siren]

Old school runescape

[tiny oar]

yea and I also have a life outside of those games..

[safe heart]

I wanna play ESO

Necro

[tiny oar]

drawing and painting and writing and reading among others..

[stray sigil]

[stray sigil]

NEXT UR GONAN SAY MEDITATION

U FREAK

WE ALL KNOW U LIE

[tiny oar]

yes that too

[livid wasp]

cool I guess

[safe heart]

Reading is sus

They have movies for a reason

Cuz the books take too long

[stray sigil]

FUCKING LIAR PIG

[tiny oar]

I practice mindfulness and journaling and contemplation

[stray sigil]

[halcyon siren]

Also a goated game

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

Idek what mindfulness IS

[halcyon siren]

[tiny oar]

are u okay dear...

[stray sigil]

LAKE I CAPPIN SO HARD

SHES GASLIGHTING ALL OF US

[safe heart]

I've never gotten far in it , is it actually fun

[livid wasp]

I play disc golf once or twice a week, but it is when we dont have winter which is half of the year when I just want to be in doors

[halcyon siren]

Yes

Very fun as of 1year ago

[tiny oar]

I speak the truth up to u if you want to hear it ig

[stray sigil]

[halcyon siren]

If I quit mid I'm back to eso

[safe heart]

The only thing I don't like about eso is the staff thing

But the wpvp actually seems fun

[halcyon siren]

Staff dead

[livid wasp]

those monks who just live on the mountains of tibet and let go of all of their earthly belongings and live in some spirit realm are the winners of life

[wintry jackal]

This is awesome

[safe heart]

No nightblade healers

[halcyon siren]

Every caster is double daggers if they have a melee build

That functions

[safe heart]

I wanna play like magden or necro

[tiny oar]

very awesome yea

[halcyon siren]

Magcro can play staff still

[safe heart]

Can you only pvp

[halcyon siren]

Magden can place ice staff but they're unique

No.

Not at all.

[safe heart]

I've never even seen the pve part

Hows the pve

[halcyon siren]

It's fine.

[late wraith]

voodoo i'm so sorry man there's just nothing worse

[halcyon siren]

You don't need to raid

If you want pvp bis you need to do dungeon, veteran arena (solo or 4man challenge pve content)

[safe heart]

Well that sounds fine

Is there even a dps meter ?

[halcyon siren]

Yeah addon

[safe heart]

Ah okay

I may reinstall until prepatch is over

[halcyon siren]

All raid gear has a statline that says 'you deal 5percent more danage in dungeon and trial' (raid)

So is dead in pvp

Very good for the game

[safe heart]

Berry nice

Whats the meta like

For pvp

[wintry jackal]

Dude you guys prob have great skiing

That’s what I would be doing

Shredding

[halcyon siren]

They are experimenting with uh, templates though so maybe no need for gear at all in future

[halcyon siren]

Mag classes king as of 1 year ago

But stam viable

[safe heart]

Is necro good or bad

[livid wasp]

I don't have a car and not that good slopes nearby

[halcyon siren]

Magcro and stamcro down tremendously 1year ago

After years of dominance

[wintry jackal]

How far would you have to go?

[safe heart]

Womp

[halcyon siren]

Magblade magden magplar stamblade stonks raising

Magdh undisputed godking as he should be

Magdk *

[livid wasp]

like 100km to the closest place that could be called a skiing center

some lame short slopes nearby

[halcyon siren]

Could be good now though emji I played last Dec

They were so down they were surely due for buffs so

They changed blastbones for magdk to be a self buff instead of delayed burst so everybody had to take stalking blastbones which wasn't as good on mag so they just had horrible resource management issues

[wintry jackal]

This indicates to me that if you get a car you’re a shredder

⛷️

[livid wasp]

but if I get a car that means ive got a job and theres no time

[wintry jackal]

Weekends holidays PTO

What are lift ticket prices like out there

Epic has destroyed the US

Almost $200 USD for 1 day lol

[livid wasp]

I dont know, if im honest I only skied once in primary school lol

[late wraith]

epic?

[livid wasp]

but it does seem more appealing now

[wintry jackal]

https://www.epicpass.com/regions.aspx

[late wraith]

imagine participating in sport

[wintry jackal]

Theyre buying all the US ski resorts

[late wraith]

could NOT be me

[wintry jackal]

Skiing is so fun

[late wraith]

girl no it isn't

[wintry jackal]

My wife isn’t a big sports person and loved it!

[late wraith]

anytime i've gone skiing i've hurt myself so bad lol

[wintry jackal]

That’s fair it can get pretty scary

Quickly lol

[tiny oar]

I love sports

I wanna go snowboarding

[wintry jackal]

I wanna try snowboarding! I think I would like it more than skiing

Lake you should go to VT or New Hampshire

I think saw you’re east coast

[tiny oar]

im in upstate NY so pretty close lol

[livid wasp]

46 bucks for a day apparently

[tiny oar]

already longboard and skateboard so I think i could get a handle on it pretty quickly

[wintry jackal]

Dude

That’s actually such a good price compared to here

Maybe beavs would like boarding better

[wintry jackal]

Yes! All my friends who were good at snowboarding could also skate really well

[late wraith]

no i've tried that too

when i was skiing last i managed to somehow go down the wrong hill. it's fine whatever. i end up also falling on my face and sliding like a starfish down the hill head first while laughing and screaming till some dear old man floated up to me like an angel and helped me get up

like a truly ancient man and i'm patrick star head first down the hill. unreal embarrassing 0/10 never again

[late wraith]

THAT WAS ME

THE FUCK

[tiny oar]

oh no LOL THAT IS TRAGIC

im sorry beavs..

[random patrol]

Im tired and to old to play time to reroll elder scrolls single player main again

[grand mesa]

Don’t give up old man

[tiny oar]

we have to queue together voodoo

boomie rdruid dream team

[stray sigil]

no way granny did the starfish

[late wraith]

i was that panda bear

goofy ass sliding down a moderate hill not even a hard one just i personally had no business going down it

[stray sigil]

[tiny oar]

[grand mesa]

The Patrick

[late wraith]

to make this worse i was by myself. alone on a mountain. solitary starfish

[halcyon siren]

Skiing is scary because u can just die for free in a tree well

I guess on the resort slopes that doesn't rly happen though

[late wraith]

i watched a tiktok of skiiers finding a guy upside down in one of those

like no thanks i'll stay inside. have fun though.

[halcyon siren]

Was he a corpse or alive

[late wraith]

alive

[halcyon siren]

Lucky dude

[late wraith]

it was actually insane they saved him

[grand mesa]

i think i saw that video

[halcyon siren]

Bad way to go yeah. Alone and bored

If you're lucky you suffocate quick

[random patrol]

kind of want to eat a starfish

[halcyon siren]

Are they even edible

[random patrol]

seems they are though only some

[halcyon siren]

I'd give em a try I guess assuming they're not protected

[random patrol]

well yeah their quite invasive

some species are toxic as f others are free game

[halcyon siren]

Aren't they just like a stomach though, like sea cucumbers

Can't imagine they'd be that good.

[random patrol]

they have 2 stomachs

it aparrely tastes like urchin

rip wa but long live wa

(this is not an official update)

[grand mesa]

i shjoul;d back up my wtf folder now thanks for reminding me

[random patrol]

I backed up my entire interface folder

[tiny oar]

i dont even know how to do that

[grand mesa]

they forgot about pvp again

[safe heart]

What happened to your ilvl

[tiny oar]

LOL

[vestal citrus]

has zechey hreadr about the kaylux drma yet

[tiny oar]

god i hope no one tells him

hes gonna lose it

[vestal citrus]

woman

wintraded

r1

the three zechey triggers

actually 4

shuffle

brodies gonna go thermo

[tiny oar]

yes they already are lol

ppl are namedropping her in every class discord pvp channel lol

[halcyon siren]

Who is kaylyz

What class

[safe heart]

Mw

[random patrol]

blizzard dont give a f bout pvp but dat it

precog needs to be added to trackable buffs still not a thing dr tracker only in arena etc

[safe heart]

why are all my transmogs different

[halcyon siren]

Lmao

[grand mesa]

This is hell

[vestal citrus]

u need to learn python puzzle

put ur efforts to building an external addon

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1371243124009205780/1463272197895356644/Screen_Recording_2025-07-28_at_8.43.59_AM.mov?ex=697139ee&is=696fe86e&hm=2f840bba16f2573f9cc7a266172d012b73d8c7d8bee4b3331ed1fb0c3d9cd9da&

just like this my boy

[late wraith]

Yea I hate it

like I get it but none of this was ready to drop all addon support

Why can’t I add precog to my buffs

[random patrol]

no precog the dr tracker is dogshit tldr midnight sucks

[tiny oar]

new beavs pfp!! looks cute ^^

[late wraith]

Ty Ty

[safe heart]

can i not move the cooldown manager thing

[late wraith]

Needed midnight theme

You can yeah

In edit mode

[safe heart]

i cannot do it

[random patrol]

trying to see if I can code diminish into midnight(prob not but maybe enemy dr at least)

[safe heart]

so everything that says incompatitble,i should just delete yea

bbp doesnt work?

my name plates wont stack

[late wraith]

I just deactivated I didn’t delete anything

[random patrol]

just deactivate for now

[safe heart]

tellmewhen seems to work still

[random patrol]

testing out wa on ptr cursed midnight unofficial port

[vestal citrus]

ive been using a fkn addon

to import shit into the game e.g. textures for liek 10 years

now it doesnt work

[simple island]

hpriest mana not feeling so good.../

[halcyon siren]

[simple island]

is priest fear just a 40 sec cd now? no reduction?

WRONG SERVER GUYS

IM SORRY

[halcyon siren]

This channel has 3 druids left dw

It's basically an off topic chat

Prob more priests in here than rdruids

[random patrol]

priest > druid

[simple island]

lmao

im liking rdruid

im just testing hpr out

[halcyon siren]

@tiny oar @clear pulsar is pvp resto saved is it numerically strong or is it still

[simple island]

its really good

my hp does not move lol

[tiny oar]

idk haven't logged in

its prepatch so shit is bonkers everywhere surely

[astral rune]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-notes-gif-17478299096235163441

[simple island]

the one thing i rlly hate about the tree

is innervate being a capstone

[halcyon siren]

Also skippable

But like for what

What else are u choosing

[simple island]

i may suck at rdruid but mana feels bad

[halcyon siren]

Rdruid mana felt okay for me but low rated so

Ymmv

[random patrol]

https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1qinkda/how_to_quickly_fix_out_of_date_addons_for_1200/ just in case you have a non combat addon that hasn't been officially updated this fixes it for now

[vestal citrus]

ty

[random patrol]

yep

for instance it works on stuff like this addon

[safe heart]

does sarena or gladius work

[random patrol]

there is a version of sarena

[tiny oar]

sarena reloaded or sumthinf works yea

[grand mesa]

sarena reloaded by bodify yeah

[late wraith]

Damn

Time to swap then

Cause no customization on blizzard’s version is horrendous

They’re too far apart

[random patrol]

wip ui

ignore the ap bar thats just there cause I have a wa that works with mid(combat stuff dont work though)

its there so I can resize my sensei bar to it later

mostly survived still lost some of my must haves though so prob not doing much for now

[halcyon siren]

looking ggood

[random patrol]

again do need to resize sensei bar to fix were current ap bar is but otherwise a good start

some stuff is buggy as f of course showing as imcomp even though update but working in game anyway

#smallindiecomp

[tiny oar]

smallindiecomp

[vestal citrus]

dude i tried to figure out a way to modify frame size value on cd manager just using fstack like a normal person

[random patrol]

you be nice or Ill use the undead wa addon to make some non combat blowhorn noises @tiny oar

[vestal citrus]

then i saw that each button was dynamically framed so u cant just do a script to scale them all easily

blizz actually so fkn dumb

[random patrol]

non combat auras still kind of sorta work

there is a reason there isn't an official wa in sl its cursed

mid I mean*

man sl was great

[late wraith]

does anyone remember the name of the ui package venruki was using?

apparently that works still

[tiny oar]

no blowhorns for me thanks I just use my eyes

[random patrol]

@tiny oar your eyes shall be replaced with blowhorns

[tiny oar]

I sure hope not!!!! that would be bad!

[random patrol]

good old blowhorns

[safe heart]

I actually barely had to do anything I was very suprised

The only thing I need is like debuffs and buffs on frames

[grand mesa]

arenacore

[late wraith]

ty

[grand mesa]

ui looking ok

[stray sigil]

ur ui looks kinda identical

[grand mesa]

yes

[random patrol]

turns out addon purge was both dumb and just made stuff largely the same but worse

[tiny oar]

yippie

[random patrol]

@tiny oar made a blowhorn spam aura when your dead

just spams blowhorn until you res

[tiny oar]

LOL

really good stuff

I cant believe the game was down until I had to go to work

so BM

[vestal citrus]

dude one of the addons

i updated the ##interface thing for

it's been working no issues since 7.2

most resilient fkn addon

[hard sierra]

on my destro... did a skirm and was with a spr... we fucking COOOOOOOOKEED the other team

about to try the boom

[vestal citrus]

theres a wod tw gear exploit rn too

might've already been hotfixed but the gear wasn't scaling

or wasn't scaled i should say

[grand mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703989285828689953/1463425956122464330/yeahhhhhhhhhhh.png?ex=6971c921&is=697077a1&hm=e1ffcc6849e5fc7346986cc7c1068218eacec4da0f81db42eff39a3c20c13af3&

[random patrol]

yeah a lot of addons just work

with update

[grand mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703989285828689953/1463427237012570123/image.png?ex=6971ca52&is=697078d2&hm=1c51ad0e4c420e59732cf2eb7d99a137cca9d44bad004dc94c4f1cc99b67991c&

[random patrol]

some break the world even with update but what can you do

[grand mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703989285828689953/1463425826698563719/image.png?ex=6971c902&is=69707782&hm=6adfbcd54ca3b7137ca347279cda6f8d540231f983b0c76e215e3c1f36a2c59e&

[hard sierra]

im ready for us to do some ques brother

[grand mesa]

Sick I’ll be on a fair bit tomorrow

[viscid remnant]

Hello chat

[random patrol]

guten morgen

[astral rune]

sup

[tiny oar]

guten fucking morgen

[vestal citrus]

guten fuckin catch these hands

[random patrol]

@tiny oar time for aug boomy 3s

[tiny oar]

im reading at work

[simple island]

guyse mana rdruid not good 3s

[stray sigil]

oh fuck im sorry

i thought u were lake

lmfao

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

i said GET FUCKED PIG to that person

i thought it was u

[tiny oar]

dude...

rude.

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/minion-laughing-popcorn-gif-9869922

[clear pulsar]

Dont ask me Im not playing midnight

[tiny oar]

true and real????

[viscid remnant]

aint no way

[vestal citrus]

coward

[stray sigil]

face says that shit every other week

hes a pig

[clear pulsar]

[late wraith]

LOL YOU CLOWN

[livid wasp]

so are we forced to use the blizzard default nameplates

[vestal citrus]

zechey u see this girl who got wintraded

[vestal citrus]

nop, platynator or plater

[livid wasp]

who

so threatplates doesnt work

[vestal citrus]

it might do

can check addon on curseforge see if it's been updated to idnight

midnight**

[livid wasp]

who got wintraded

[vestal citrus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1qiv0ah/minicc_bigdebuffs_reborn/?share_id=hdGBrlCfzUB1i8h3_s_zm

bigdebuffs replacement @grand mesa

umm some mw rbg girl called kaylux

she got wintraded to r1 in shuff

[livid wasp]

miraix got wintraded in blitz thats what I know

I just want my threatplates back

I cba playing around with plater again

I was perfectly used to threatplates

why did blizzard have to do this

it was so unnecessary idk

[vestal citrus]

sentiments mirrored by a fk tonne of ppl

[livid wasp]

how hard can it be to look at the most used addons and make similar functionalities in game

sure they added nameplates but they have very little ways to modify them

[vestal citrus]

well

the ppl making addons are talented

the ppl at blizz are not

[livid wasp]

like it would be okay if I could filter which debuffs of mine I see on the enemy, and adjust the size of them as well as the size of enemy buffs

I also wanna see combo points on the target but thats not an option apparently

[strange bloom]

hey did someone already post some talent builds for restodruid?

[clear pulsar]

That is the point tho

The features being poorly executed is just from a matter of the short time they gave themselves, they'll probably make it more fluid to set up and you can still use addons to skin it to make it prettier anyways

But if the plan was to add features that mirrored everything addons did, they wouldn't block addons...

There are obviously features and functionalities that they wont re-implement

[clear pulsar]

This should be, it always was a base game feature, no?

[clear pulsar]

For what mate?

[strange bloom]

for prepatch 🙂

[clear pulsar]

I mean what idk game mode?

[strange bloom]

pref for arena

[clear pulsar]

CkGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMmZbMjZmxsM8AMzsxsYZGAAAAAAAAAAsMDZDmmZmBmNzMzMbGegZAAAAAMAgBAACAAAEAGzAzMLgmBAAAA

I reckon you play something like this

[strange bloom]

thanks a lot ❤️

[maiden viper]

rdruid looks pretty nice

the pruning is real

so many free binds

[livid wasp]

mw is really broken

[tiny oar]

good thing its prepatch so nothing matters!!!

[clear pulsar]

Nihilism doesnt suit you imo

Everything matters, every moment in life is precious

[tiny oar]

i am the most optimistic bitch here thanks

[tiny oar]

YES I AGREE TY

[clear pulsar]

[viscid remnant]

absurdism is the new thing

(i read one albert camus novel)

[maiden viper]

wtf did they make transmog really expensive?

costs 2k gold to change my outfit

[tiny oar]

costs 2k to unlock outfit slots but you can swap between them for free infinitely after you do

[clear pulsar]

It's based on loadout slots now and you spend gold to save the loadouts, then swapping mogs between your saved ones is free

[tiny oar]

THATS WHAT I SAID MANNNNNNNNNN

THERES NO FUCKING OVERGROWTH OR CEN WARD???

WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZ

[maiden viper]

just noticed that

[tiny oar]

actual baby game for babies

[clear pulsar]

Sry its the ping

[tiny oar]

dude they made me have to talent swipe to swipe my clones???

WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO MY SPEC

[clear pulsar]

i forgot to pick swipe in the talent string I pasted for homeboy here

And forgot to pick the WS nodes

[tiny oar]

[livid wasp]

that minicc looks good

hope it becomes available soon

[grand mesa]

It’ll be baked into BBF soon too

[tiny oar]

ok man kinda not a fan of efflo following me around every 2 seocnds

it might be insane tho...

[livid wasp]

so bbf works soon

[grand mesa]

BBF works now

[livid wasp]

doesnt for me

or what is that

I realized its not bigdebuffs

[tiny oar]

ok man all set LETS QUEUE

[grand mesa]

I’m leaving for work. But it’s a short day I’ll be back in like 3-4 hours

[livid wasp]

what is bbf

tell me

important information

[tiny oar]

better blizz frames

[livid wasp]

thanks

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/balenciagaval-cristiano-ronaldo-crying-cheer-gif-23816746

[hard sierra]

We do 3’s later….. run some LSD

[livid wasp]

but big debuffs dont work atm on bbf?

I got snupys profile, cc still small

[livid wasp]

platynator works apparently for plates

but that doesnt show many cds

like turtle shell

it must be some pver addon

[cold bay]

fk. im not resubbing now

[tiny oar]

THERES AN EFFLO FOLLOWING LB TARGET CONSTANTLY

ITS KINDA SICK ACTUALLY ??

[cold bay]

stream it?

[clear pulsar]

Have you seen any addon showing defensives like that on nameplates?

[livid wasp]

I think it was nameplateauras that was showing them but it doesnt work now

[cold bay]

why is lakerz not orange but face2 is orange

what is this

[clear pulsar]

I'm asking in midnight

Yes

[livid wasp]

platynator shows hunter offensive cds but not defensives, and the CC aura shows also sometimes

idk should just wait one week and then look at addons

when its fixed

[clear pulsar]

It's totally possible some of these addons are missing shit the game provides because some of them are just vibe coded

But

The game doesnt let addons filter and figure out buffs/debuffs and pick and choose what it shows you

This isnt something addons will figure out when the season starts

[livid wasp]

on the default nameplates it shows the important buffs correctly tho

but theyre damn too small and cant edit their sizes without making my own debuffs huge

[grand mesa]

Their internal white list is horrible inconsistent

The only thing I see from a ww is the proc that makes their next rsk free or whatever

Fuji couldn’t see my ascendance but saw my astral shift

I didn’t see fort brew or anything from him

[livid wasp]

so addons cant change it?

anymore

[grand mesa]

Addons can’t see auras

[tiny oar]

DEFEAT

[livid wasp]

I hope we see shit like evasion that is impossible to see without it

[grand mesa]

well this has always been my gripe about the addon changes

U can’t see anything if bigdebuff functionality dead

Ur just gonna have to see the tiny icon under unit frame

Or notice ur shit is all being dodged

[tiny oar]

EFFLO IS CRANKING

[grand mesa]

What’s funny is I didn’t realize how much I used bigdebuffs for feedback on whether I kicked successfully or not. I kick people and have no clue if they’re actually locked out

[livid wasp]

it wouldnt be a problem if the game did not show a million useless bufs

[grand mesa]

Yeah it’s a problem

Ur gonna have to get really good at reading the 40 icons, install whatever TOS breaking screen read overlay they come up with, or just vibe it lmao

[livid wasp]

this will save pvp thank you blizzard

[clear pulsar]

Or quit the game

[tiny oar]

NEVER

[safe heart]

I sent cc into pally bubble on cd last night

And I was trying to actually see the kick animation lmao

[livid wasp]

also holy ward not showing

THAT IS GREAT THANKS BLIZZARD

it is my fault for not seeing it in the 40 buffs

[safe heart]

Yeah honestly the only thing I'm really mad about right now is bigdebuffs

I need to see bubble ans blur and shit on the frames

[grand mesa]

This is why I thought it was so funny when people were so stoked about the airhorns going away

Airhorns and bigdebuffs are the same thing just presented differently

One is sound and text on screen the other is just icon anchored to nameplate

but pulling the info the same

[tiny oar]

this nameplate recolor on dispellable debuffs is ROUGH

is there a way to make debuffs bigger on party frames

[grand mesa]

U can but then u make hot icons bigger

And your rdruid hots overlap the debuffs

And it’s an icon orgy

[grand mesa]

U can disable that

Search the word overlay in options search bar

[tiny oar]

ok ok ok hold up

[tiny oar]

does mini cc work for that

[grand mesa]

No it’s just default edit mode

There’s a thing to make ur shit bigger. But it resizes debuffs and hots 1:1

Which is fine for me as rsham

But for you…

[tiny oar]

ill fuck around w it...

[clear pulsar]

I cant wait for people to have so much fun in pvp without addons that 'play the game for you'

So many people wanted this

[tardy hare]

i think its good though

to some extent

[clear pulsar]

They'll be able to catch up to the r1s now that they wont have the handholding addons

Same in m+

We'll see who is good for real

[tiny oar]

[grand mesa]

New thing ig face is glow on cast bar when spell cast on you works properly always

I had a dummy targetted and focus hexed Fuji and his cast bar glowed even tho he wasn’t being targetted

[clear pulsar]

That's rly nice

If that's info addons can read, it should be easy to make it super visible

[grand mesa]

Yeah

Ofc can’t white list what spells I’m sure

But

[clear pulsar]

Great for shifting polys

Mage isnt gonna be casting fireball at me

[grand mesa]

I’m sure against wizard cleave you’ll see orange bars nonstop

Orange glow

[grand mesa]

Yeah it was the one of the first things I immediately tested cause I was curious. Pleasantly surprised it worked out like I hoped (blizz tends to let me down)

[livid wasp]

that minicc is good

now wish this addon showed cc on enemies normally

[grand mesa]

CC should be properly seen

Atleast base nameplates and BBP

I think the only thing blizz auras didn’t show properly in their CC/bigdebuff section we’re snares

But any normal cc even charge root showed properly

[livid wasp]

yeah tis just this addon that is fucked

platynator

probably

[clear fox]

fuji can whine about snares/roots

I never dispelt that trash anyway

[clear fox]

can the addons at least re-order buffs? I assume not

[grand mesa]

No

[clear fox]

sadge

[viscid remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1207456268516589600/1448629941926101072/IMG_6567.gif

[clear fox]

Dont worry Ill just Q TFT till I can sort my buffs

[safe heart]

Thunder focus tea

[clear pulsar]

Wanna play Nightreign?

[grand mesa]

@livid wasp

No dude rdruid is back and immortal I am PLAYING with BEN face go away

[livid wasp]

nice

[astral rune]

I should try out rdru

[wintry jackal]

feral sucks without wa

tracking bleeds n combo points on these bars

[livid wasp]

feels like everyone feels like shit

[grand mesa]

I like my specs so far and gameplay

rsham feels cozy. Enh goes brr. Haven’t tried ele yet

[clear pulsar]

"My specs" no mentions of druid

[safe heart]

I only messed with spr
I made my own scuffed build and played some shuffle

No stun is lame, lost multiple rounds cuz don't have life swap

[astral rune]

feral feels okay so far but haven't done much in prepatch.

[safe heart]

I'm expecting a 10 page dissertation from you on prepatch feral tmrw fardel

And if I see 1 single emoji or double hyphen, straight to jail

[grand mesa]

I’m not a stinky rdru

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1235688195937533972/1463368891437813760/image.png?ex=69723cbb&is=6970eb3b&hm=71dc953351c2b0fedd9417e310949eb1bc459b818f2f349746bc75a54a8f7b78&

U like flops breakdown on beta

Face

[tiny oar]

where are the CASTS MAN

[late wraith]

Default nameplates did not show clone for me in a duel but showed mayo drinking his juice box

I cannot hate this shit more

can’t see bubble can’t see ams can’t see spell reflect.

[grand mesa]

I think duels are scuffed for CC

Specifically

But I’d

Idk

It’s a whole mess of what’s working and what’s not working and conflating it with addons loaded or just blizzards fault

[late wraith]

I have all addons off right now

I just am using what they’ve given us

And it is god awful. Like damn you all really thought you had the talent crazy.

[grand mesa]

I have faith in blizzard entertainment

[late wraith]

turn the switch back besties try next expac

Hire a few people maybe

[livid wasp]

I bet people gave them a shit ton of feedback on beta and prepatch but they were like lalala cant hear you you will use it and you will enjoy it

[grand mesa]

All they’ve been doing is managing addon fallout

And walking shit back

All beta

[late wraith]

Yeah they have changed a lot and they will for sure change some of this before launch

They gave us insane lead in time to cry about this I am going to cry about it and hope they fix

[grand mesa]

midnight is half cooked in oven cause they spent so much time trying to recover from self inflicted wound

[late wraith]

like I am totally fine with not knowing when spell reflect is off or on cd but not seeing it on their nameplate when it’s active is insane

[grand mesa]

that was my main complaint this entire time

[late wraith]

Every single warrior spell looks the same. Some sort of shield

[grand mesa]

but no one believed me

[halcyon siren]

Can't u...see it on their character

[grand mesa]

i was preaching from the mountains

[late wraith]

Girl I always believe you

[late wraith]

Who is looking at character models playing this game

[halcyon siren]

I went no addon as soon as they announced it was going to be killed, ams and spell reflect is visible on the character,

I am I guess.

[tropic schooner]

think technically everything is visible

[late wraith]

Like this is such an insane thing to say. No I don’t see the spell reflect anim on the guy

Wow built diff

[tropic schooner]

even things like kick

but I wont see that shit

[grand mesa]

more likely to hear kicks than see it

[halcyon siren]

I hear the kicks and can see some

[tropic schooner]

honestly no clue how kick sounds like

I hear cs/fel hunter

[halcyon siren]

Pummel invisible to my eyes

[tropic schooner]

and prolly shear

[grand mesa]

kick pummel shear hear it all

[tropic schooner]

but pummel/kick no fucking clue

[grand mesa]

but uhhh imma be real

ive been using mes wa for so long

idk which sounds are natty blizz

[halcyon siren]

Shear, countershout, mind freeze all visible

[grand mesa]

vs. mes using a sound trigger

[halcyon siren]

But I hear everything else

[grand mesa]

like i def hear spell refelct

but idk if that's mes or base

[halcyon siren]

It's base

I hear it too

[late wraith]

It was amplified by mes

So it’s going to take a second to get used to things being quieter

Because the wa made shit that was important louder since this game is filled with ambient bullshit

[halcyon siren]

Ya I'm not flaming or bragging I'm literally asking if they're gone, I haven't played 1 game yet I just did housing, sorry if it came off that way

[late wraith]

it did yeah like everyone claiming that they’ll be fine actually

[livid wasp]

just go pve they just gave pvpers a big middle finger

[late wraith]

I don’t think pvers are happy either

I think they are the least happy

[grand mesa]

even with BBF glows pre midnight

try and find roar sac

instantly

[halcyon siren]

Pvers are worse off because their game mode is actually

I think

[grand mesa]

i do not agree

[halcyon siren]

They have lots of visual slop and nothing is uh

Consistent

[grand mesa]

pvers have everything back except omnicd for looking at team CDs and kick tracker

[late wraith]

Okay but do something quick turn on audio assist and duel with a caster

[grand mesa]

for raids u don't even use those at all

[late wraith]

It’s extremely funny

I legit just want to see when something is active on the nameplates that’s it. No cd timers nothing like that

[grand mesa]

iw ill still have my teleprompter

telling me exactly when to soak or press CDs

in raid

hardly anything changed

[grand mesa]

u know me

i've been saying this forever lmao

only ones who will see shit are the old old heads who are used to looking at unit frame auras

[halcyon siren]

Yeah no, the reality is some people might be fine but I think less visibility is lame. The only thing I was looking kinda forward to is not having Dr trackers because I think vibe based gaming is kinda

[grand mesa]

and seeing roar sac instantly or sac or blades

[halcyon siren]

Just shajes things up a bit

[livid wasp]

in game nameplateauras gg

[late wraith]

There is too much visual noise in this game and they didn’t pare it down enough

[grand mesa]

we have built in DR tracking

in blizzard

[halcyon siren]

But I think they put dr tracking back in?

[late wraith]

Dr tracking is built in

[halcyon siren]

Yeah sucks

So worst of all worlds.

[late wraith]

Dr tracking is crucial like it’s not vibes it’s did the clown in my lobby with me put this guy on Dr

It’s not counting in your head it’s helping communicate with a lobby you have no comms with

[grand mesa]

@stray sigil maybe you'll get dispelled again, friend

[halcyon siren]

Is that northernsky

God if anything has sapped my will to play it is the existence of the teleprompter. Literally ruined almost every class to kill this shit and it makes it through.

[halcyon siren]

Yeah I get that's why they put it in. I just would have like imperfect information just to see how it went.

Shrug

[livid wasp]

first time I hear of a teleprompter

[halcyon siren]

But I think not knowing cds is maybe enough to shake the script up so I will try to be optimistic

[analog herald]

hey does anyone have an import code for resto druid build? for pvp and or mythic dungeon practice?

[halcyon siren]

But ya fix visibility lol

@clear pulsar @tiny oar

[late wraith]

It would have went w key comps only nothing that required any sort of setup whatsoever

[livid wasp]

cant see teammate cds either now being on voice is basically a requirement unless you play a total mongo comp

[halcyon siren]

Maybe. I don't think accidentally half stunning something or half fearing would be game ending, def a mistake, wasting scream into am immune target

Doesn't reset dr so you just lose the cd, etc. Idk I think letting people make mistakes

Could have been kind of cool.

That's all.

But they didn't go with that and that's fine.

[late wraith]

People do make mistakes with the trackers available

You’re saying this as if people don’t dr shit all the time everyone played it perfect cause of trackers

[halcyon siren]

Felt that way, ESPECIALLY after I tried it full no addons. I felt I was the only one ever accidentally messing dr up.

But prob confirmation bias

But ya, I'm concerned for casters though. Not being able to see kick cds even as just a clone caster made me wonder if I was faking air

And if they'd be used on others already

I wonder if they'll make precog longer again to help them

[velvet quest]

I thought you said you hear all the kicks why would you have to see them?

Just use your ears why would you need more information than that

[halcyon siren]

I only hear them on me.

If warlock gets kicked 40 yards I miss it and don't know

[velvet quest]

Just watch all the enemy character models simultaneously and see when they use the kick animations it’s not hard

[halcyon siren]

Ya again I wasn't trying to ego earlier daddy chill, I was just relaying my experience, and am relaying my experience that I sometimes wondered if I was faking air

[livid wasp]

thats howthe devs actually think

[halcyon siren]

I don't think I'm some cracked gamer God because I tried no addons or because I can see ams without bigdebuffs

I promise

[halcyon siren]

Is it though, like

Come on

Surely not

[late wraith]

Straining to hear the counterspell sound from the mage through the sound of a warrior sending his cds like damn this is so fun

[clear pulsar]

Try things out, for one. I would start with something like this in arena
CkGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMmZbMjZmxsM8AMzsxsYZGAAAAAAAAAAsMDZDmmZMDmNzMzMbGegZAAAAAMAgBAACAAYYWaWGL2YMDMzsAaGAgZGA

But who tf knows at this point. Could see something like this
CkGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMmZzyMmZGzyYGmZ2YWsMAAAAAAAAAAwyMkNYamxMY2MzMzsZ4BmBAAAAwAAGAAIAAghZpZZsYjxMwMWANDAwMDA

[halcyon siren]

I didn't find that I strained to hear it if it was on me, but definitely I felt I had zero sense if kick was used on any character not my own to the point of wondering if they even play the audio if its not on you?

[late wraith]

Time to look at my buffs to see if I got precog oh hey I get a buff to exp in tbc timewalking this week that’s great.

[livid wasp]

arent they all about inclusion with their assist systems, how about deaf people who try to pvp

[halcyon siren]

Precog I found I never missed on myself or enemy because very glowey, but ya, I think buff visibility needed huge work on base plates and sad to hear it still needs work

[velvet quest]

There’s a voice assist feature zechey you could try it out. Interruptible cast interruptible cast interruptible interrupti int in in in in in in in interruptible cast

[halcyon siren]

LMAO

[late wraith]

You’re spoiling it I told them to turn it on

[velvet quest]

Oops

[livid wasp]

they heard about voodooray and added that feature for him

[velvet quest]

Holy got his ass

[halcyon siren]

How do your guys ' class feel to play

[livid wasp]

same but more braindead

less engaging

[halcyon siren]

I logged on mm hunter and they have no way to control instant aimed shot now, and obviously feral is dire

[livid wasp]

hunter I played with complains that he cant see if his pet is cced anymore

[clear pulsar]

@grand mesa had the same complaint

(it was fuji)

(fuji is his pet)

GETMEGETMEGETMEGETMEGETMEGETMEGETMEGETMEGETMEGETMEGETME

[late wraith]

Looool

[grand mesa]

so true

heck fuji

[velvet quest]

Heck Fuji amen

[random patrol]

external overlay meta inc

[safe heart]

Fuji made axtin yall stfu

[clear pulsar]

Fuji made axtin cry of shame that the feral brothers rerolled to chase fotm

[safe heart]

Don't attack me like this

Spr is like fent

1 hit and you can't stop

[viscid remnant]

feji invented necro feral at the start of shadowlands when he was 26

true?

[safe heart]

Truer

[random patrol]

api changing every 5 minute on beta(already can do more stuff with it then prepatch) so who knows what we cn do with addons in pvp by release but Idk don't hold your horses

[safe heart]

I don't even own a fucking horse

[high tundra]

is unholy dk broken or did everyone just decide to play one in midnight prepatch bgs

[safe heart]

Lots of ppl were playing dk because of dk mm

[grand mesa]

it was meta in s3

and continues to stay strong in beta so they're just continuing to play it

[high tundra]

i see

every game ive played has just devolved into being spawncamped by whoever has the most udks

[stray sigil]

i am getting slandered

[astral rune]

ret paladin hits hard as well, rocking about 60k more hp in full pvp gear too as feral

[stray sigil]

what the ruck

[astral rune]

close to 200k hp like wtf, their self healing is dumb too so it takes longer to kill. Regrowth has been healing better tho.

[livid wasp]

theres no reason to play this shitshow

[stray sigil]

wrong u play game for fun its real

[late wraith]

i can't believe it but i agree with zechey lol

they gotta work their shit out which i trust they will

housing main for now though. got to do my endeavors

[vestal citrus]

fwiw you can get fairly functional with a few hours of effort

I dont think blizz will have something good until like mid midnight

it is a shame tho

[late wraith]

i'm just missing when they press defensives. like when the defensive is active. some of them work some of them don't

[vestal citrus]

yer, i would hope that's one of the first things they build alongside buff/debuff filtering

[late wraith]

buff filtering yeah like i like that i can place my buff list anywhere. i don't like that i can't picjk what i see

i need to see precog somewhere other than the top right of my screen with everything else.

[vestal citrus]

ye i have 10 buffs showing

and 8 of them are like

event buff, timewalking, randomshit idgaf about

[late wraith]

yup

[vestal citrus]

like yeah sick man good to know

[late wraith]

like i think this will work i am very optimistic that the game will be fully fine. it's just not right now.

[vestal citrus]

all i know is that the same ppl who are 1800 because they think that everyone else having addons is what holds them back, will still be 1800 after

[grand mesa]

I will make you guys look at my vantus rune and well fed buff and princess ribbon

And there’s nothing you guys can do to stop me

[livid wasp]

I guess it will all be just be make the game more fair to console players

as if anyone playing on console will play seriously ever

[late wraith]

i did not even consider that i play with a bunch of old men who are obsessed with toys so they always have 20 extra buffs from like regoblinator and shit

[vestal citrus]

MS said they weren't planning on doing it

fk knows if that wlil end up being the case

[grand mesa]

Loading up on as many random piss icons as possible is a competitive advantage

[late wraith]

best friend buff that one is actually crucial

[vestal citrus]

you wont ever get that though

(unless its from me)

[late wraith]

[vestal citrus]

so mean

[late wraith]

new season even worse me

[stray sigil]

q beejers for me

wit me

[late wraith]

i might rage

[stray sigil]

[grand mesa]

I like how we’re all casually referring to this as a new season and not new expac because this is truly DF 3.0 but without addons

[stray sigil]

how tf do u rage in bejeers

are u pig

[late wraith]

i don't like that i can't see anything but yeah i'll queue a few before i have to work

puzzle coming?

[stray sigil]

puzzler is most definitely

on couch

@grand mesa confirm

[grand mesa]

Bed

[late wraith]

post work nap

[stray sigil]

close enough.

[grand mesa]

I leave to pick up kid from school in 5-10 min

[late wraith]

he gotta

[grand mesa]

beavs my driver side window got stuck

It wouldn’t roll up

[late wraith]

from cold?

[grand mesa]

It’s 12 degrees

[late wraith]

vile

[stray sigil]

[late wraith]

i read that trees are going to start exploding in minnesota

[vestal citrus]

i gotta go work otherwise i play

[grand mesa]

I spent an hour driving to my further hospital this morning

[stray sigil]

muricans and their "cold"

[late wraith]

from the freeze

[vestal citrus]

still in bed gotta leave in 5 mins

[stray sigil]

they dont know real cold.

[vestal citrus]

unfort

[grand mesa]

Yeah it’s gonna be -50 in minnesota

[late wraith]

montreal is truly hell

[grand mesa]

or some shit

[late wraith]

my brother always posts the temps in family chat and it's like why do you live there. just move here

[stray sigil]

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-i-guess-bro-bro-i-guess-ok-man-gif-6278747235421617446

[late wraith]

i got a warning today cause it might be a little foggy

[grand mesa]

We can queue skirm 3s when I’m back

[late wraith]

oops turn ur lights on driving

[grand mesa]

I wanna test miniCC

[late wraith]

nice

capnmurphy made that

the ww goat

or had something to do with it i dunno

[grand mesa]

I think he found the api call vervz used to make it happen

[astral rune]

it's going to be negative 40 from the windchill where I'm at tomorrow

[astral rune]

this

[astral rune]

prepatch is the anomaly portion of the xpansion, stuff is going to be funky aside from their whole wa/addon fiasco

[livid wasp]

yeah but the addons are so fucked its unfun idk

[timber tinsel]

I love no add-on wow. Evens the playing field and exposes those who rely on them 😄

Good motivation for them to actually design systems

[safe heart]

Surely now you will ascend

[timber tinsel]

Top tier cringe, here i come

[safe heart]

You are finally unchained from the add on patriarchy

[livid wasp]

holyy a real furry

[timber tinsel]

that said, I'm enjoying balance in pvp, but I need to get faster at reacting to close range stunlocks

I have like 60 more honor levels to go to get all my artifact skins 🙁

[safe heart]

What's your char name
Wanna see what your mog looks like

[livid wasp]

like sure gladiatorlossa kind of stuff is stupid but they are limiting addons way too much

[timber tinsel]

Stranger danger! 😮 I have a few different sets, the important thing is I only play Worgen

[safe heart]

Roger

[timber tinsel]

need dragonflight to go legacy before I can get the cool sets.