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livid wasp
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how shit can you be at ret to lose to a feral with unplayable ping

edgy basin
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At least I don’t get bored at work following Zechey progress

livid wasp
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idk if my rating can recover

edgy basin
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Mental health is what needs to recover

livid wasp
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it doesnt matter

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my isp lagging

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for others too

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can they fix their shit

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I need my daily crashout

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well I already had one

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a second one

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cant switch to phone internet either since same isp

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need to get a separate one for phone

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cant stop the blitz train

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I want to queue

stray sigil
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run it up my boy

livid wasp
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ok time to go

stray sigil
livid wasp
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waht the fuck

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queue popped and I just got your team has left the queue

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I HOPE IT WAS A LOSING BG

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live on twitch dot teevee make sure to click that follow button lets get some evening blitz HYPE going on

stray sigil
livid wasp
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how should deepwind gorge even be played

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like we cap quarry and I wanna help at farm

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but its hard to help at farm while keeping quarry capped

stray sigil
livid wasp
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shit game

stray sigil
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pres on fc map

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seem kinda unfair

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unluckly

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legendary my boy

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no wya

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fast cap

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..

livid wasp
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bunch of idiots saying just defend

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while they have a dragon who can just run across the map

stray sigil
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u guys all got wiped was so bad ye

livid wasp
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why do I get these teams

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its not fair

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I cant climb I just lose rating

stray sigil
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then itsj ust a rog trying to cross while everyone in grey screen

livid wasp
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soon ill be 2.5k probably

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idk

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this game is just bullshit with these teams

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like how could I carry that game

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I contributed well

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I gave our team the fast cap

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killed fc

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like jesus

vestal citrus
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u cant just contribute u must be dominant

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u gotta be playing like u in the nba having to drop 40 every night just for a chance to win

livid wasp
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so boring

edgy basin
livid wasp
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carry me back to 3k mmr

livid wasp
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idk why im losing

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idk why im doing this

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this is pure madness

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fucking kotmogu

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idk how to win this

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its always a loss

stray sigil
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always hated kotmogu

livid wasp
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aaaaaaaaaa

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maybe I just dont have it

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blitz r1 is only for 140iq

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im doomed to be a 2700 frog

stray sigil
random patrol
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could be worse could be 10 flag carry in a row

livid wasp
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flag carry is good

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kotmogu is most likely a loss

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won that one though

velvet quest
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Kotmogu is the best bg

livid wasp
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no

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constant stress

edgy basin
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When are you not stressed

random patrol
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seething shore and strand were/are the best

clear pulsar
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Ok satan calm down

halcyon siren
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I ground out the prospector title in seething shore and I personally hate that BG I can't lie. I didn't mind strands though.

livid wasp
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idk if its time to have a more believable goal and go for legend

random patrol
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@halcyon siren I legit had more fun in those bgs more then any fucking flag carry bs they have

narrow willow
halcyon siren
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Watch him get true rngd in shuffle and crash out harder

stray sigil
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was kinda vibes

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strand was like the montage map fr

random patrol
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charging ahead off of the boat with a dk pop army go

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was great yeah

wintry jackal
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R Druid Rsham

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How do we think that destro did?

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Poor person

halcyon siren
random patrol
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second failed attempt at crypt

halcyon siren
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@tiny oar excuse u

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what are you cookin up in there

lime light
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tiny oar
lime light
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@viscid remnant ziggi fucking d

viscid remnant
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wolf looks really nice

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wolf amazon maybe

lime light
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no wtf

viscid remnant
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amazon = new deadeye

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ele leech+free crit+good start area

lime light
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its just damgur

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u dont rly lack damgur in poe 2

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deadeye was speed

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momemntum

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and being broken tanky with wind

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but i get it, amazon can be good

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but its far away from "druid" starting talents that i GUESS will be packed with good stuff

viscid remnant
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druid start area is shit compared to ranger

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if you want speed and evasion

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and druiid ascend looks not really amazing

lime light
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ye

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agree

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but we dont know the juice

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the oracle new stuff

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and the shamans "down" path on the asc tree

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wolf looks super cool xD

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but idk how to build it at all

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the druis slam is like

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u slam and the dmg is there in next year

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and deadeye about to finish 5th map

lime light
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kinda insane node

viscid remnant
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idk

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ranger start have good nodes

lime light
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the bear dmg looks insanly broken there XD

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for bosses

viscid remnant
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the only problem with going amazon

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is if the skills cost str+int

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but i think it will still be okay

lime light
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why its a problem?

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its easy to get those in poe 2

viscid remnant
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might not have stats for everything

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if you want to play with evasion high lvl bases

lime light
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hm

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ye i can see it being a bit a headache

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to fix

viscid remnant
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could be a problem

lime light
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idk what to do

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i wanna play in the druid starting area cuz iam sure there will be a lot of good shit

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but druid overall looks uhm

livid wasp
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man we go 2-0 wsg and we almost lose

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cause everyone starts mid fighting

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and in the monly one on fc

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and our fc solo

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jesus christ I wouldve lost it

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losing is one thing but losing from 2-0

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is consumer a slur in russian or what

halcyon siren
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lol

clear pulsar
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That's crazy fam

livid wasp
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everyone fighting mid, we go 2-1

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warrior picks the flag runs to mid and dies, their shaman carries it to their tunnel

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only reason we win is cause our dragon picked it a few seconds before shaman could cap

viscid remnant
livid wasp
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maybe hes a commie

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consumerism = bad

clear pulsar
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Only reason you won is cuz you didnt lose?

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Surprising

livid wasp
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why cant they just remove kotmogu

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or at least give me the option to blacklist it

viscid remnant
safe heart
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Hypothetically the only reason I didn't get glad is because I did not pay anyone to get it for me

halcyon siren
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hypothetically the only reason i don't have a gladiator mount on my account is because i did not buy an account with a gladiator mount

tiny oar
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I got one but its a nasty fucking protodrake I wouldn't be caught dead on

clear pulsar
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But they have such cute liddle arms

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I'd ride them cute liddle arms fo sho

livid wasp
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why cant I just get my winstreak

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its just win los win loss win loss

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shit game honestly

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waste of time

halcyon siren
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the good news is i am 5-1 in tft

livid wasp
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idk should just play 5 games and stop if there is no winstreak

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pointless grinding

halcyon siren
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like why stopa t 5 lol when you're just gunna play tomorrow

livid wasp
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force myself to come up with something else to do

livid wasp
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such a shit game

livid wasp
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I guess it could be worse

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I could be 2.4k with 100 games rather than 2.7k

rich crag
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Do rets have the ability to see invis in a skirmish ?

livid wasp
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no

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I get my win then I get into a game against r1 duo

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why me?

shy snow
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reminded me of this

safe heart
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If they bubble it let's them see stealth I think

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Also there are the eyes as well they could've picked up but those spawn like after a minute or so

livid wasp
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really

random patrol
livid wasp
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reasons to hate ret vol. 3833434

rich crag
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@safe heart no i think you are right he wasted bubble to beat me in a 1v2 but I didnt uunderstand how he saw me right away. you learn everyday lol

livid wasp
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arent there far better pvp talents to play as a ret tho

random patrol
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yes its a niche as f talent not even worth it outside of duels or 2v2 skirms aka stuff that don't matter

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maybe bgs to sometimes

livid wasp
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im doing 3s

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what a boomer gamemode

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there used to be a time when this was all wow had

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I hate quitters

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this ele goes offline after 1-2

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imagine if he tried to play blitz

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it would go nowhere with that mentality

stray sigil
livid wasp
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it was feral ele didnt feel that good

wintry jackal
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It’s a good comp tho

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I actually wanna play some more with puzzle

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Feel like we didn’t get to warm up enough

wintry jackal
livid wasp
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like 2k-2050

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got some mage too but he is doing half of my dps

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idk if he is supposed to when he is focused

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its not 2 melees though

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1-6 record for this night wow so good

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its just the worst feeling when you think you played fine but you still lost

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I dont know what I did wrong

wintry jackal
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We could take a look at it if you get vods

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I have both my ferals at 2.4k now gonna start farming more legend wins

livid wasp
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talking about 3s not shuffle

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I could record tomorrow when I play some

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didnt bother now

wintry jackal
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Oh nice

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Thought it was shuffle

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You just lfging it?

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Mage feral is one of the harder comps imo, you have to play for setups

livid wasp
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lfg yes

wintry jackal
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Yeah it’s tough without comms

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If you’re doing nothing off stuns / bust / their healer in cc then it’s not fun

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And you just kinda spin your wheels

random patrol
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I don't think I will do threes this season my canadian disc priest is moving so eh

livid wasp
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we didnt coordinate much yes

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I just try to clone when I can

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prefer feral destro and if I play setup comp, jungle

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oh well maybe tomorrow there will be more queues than at 2 am

wintry jackal
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I believe in u zechey

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Record matches let’s look together

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Will help me learn too

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I have some you can review and help me with also

livid wasp
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what comp do you play

stray sigil
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they played furreal ele and furrel sp last night

wintry jackal
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Yeah I’ve messed around with a lot

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I hit 2240 playing mw sp feral on my main

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But dropped back to 2170

livid wasp
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pro

wintry jackal
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i wish lol

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still make a lotta mistakes but all we can do is learn and try to improve

safe heart
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You can also rage

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And /cast eviscerated

sinful wing
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can smb explain me how to farm pvp gear/honor through world quests? I heated there is a addon hated crate tracker. But somehow i dont get it work, im flying arround but dont see any activities

clear pulsar
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Most WQs will give 100 bloody tokens if you have war mode on, that'll show on the rewards when you hover it. PVP-specific WQs occasionally also give 500.

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You use that to buy purple gear almost on par with conquest

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The crates addon idk, you can prob find out how it works by reading the addon's page

tulip wyvern
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Has anyone noticed a bug today where Incarn:Tree Ancient of Lore StanceForm# is changing based on talents? Was always 7, today its 6 or 7 but trying to figure out what talent is changing it.

clear pulsar
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Bug is crazy

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It's gonna be moonkin form probably

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If you're in the same character

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It can also be treant form or mount form if you're looking at different druids where 1 may have the glyphs learned

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It's indubitably not a bug

sand laurel
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Please help me decide Affliction or Feral for Midnight. What would you suggest considering about their playstyle and capabilities?

livid wasp
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everyone says feral is shit here so I dont know probably afli lock, I would say feral cause im going to play feral anyway

halcyon siren
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i also am prob gunna play feral but ultimately what is 'best' or 'easier' to play will rely on tuning both of the class itself and of its counters

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if affliction does dogshit dps and warrior and dh is owning, prob going to be more difficult

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if you're an alt-enjoyer wait for the supatease meta analysis videos he is mostly a genius when it comes to analyzing meta and what will be strong

livid wasp
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im a perma feral player so anywya

tropic schooner
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yea he might

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(but holy shit hes terrible)

clear pulsar
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It's my favorite little trope in these

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He has no idea where his team is before he goes in

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And then he makes a shit play, blames others for not being aware of his shit play (he was not aware of anything)

tropic schooner
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yea

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I clicked on one of his other clips

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and that one is even more insane

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this oen

clear pulsar
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I cant tell what the champs do

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But he was dead anyways shoulda just hit homegirl yeah?

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Idk what else to look for but rough dive

tropic schooner
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this was a pretty bad miss

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by his teammate

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however after that

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this

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is a horrible decision to even dive

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and once the dive started as you said

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he coulda just killed the enemy mid

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here his auto is ready

clear pulsar
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He has Q ready thru the whole root duration too

tropic schooner
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but he cancels it

clear pulsar
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SHEEEEESH

tropic schooner
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but even more importantly his jhin tried to follow his stupid dive call

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takes a tower shot which sure isnt great

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but hed flame more if jhin would just back out (which woulda been smart)

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jhin had no chance to kil mel without dying

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in the end the towrshot barely mattered

grand mesa
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League is yucky play dota

clear pulsar
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It's true ever since I got WR arcana from spending more money than was wise on a random chest

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Dota is less yucky

viscid remnant
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Forsen the goat

livid wasp
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god damnit hes not banned

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+6 hours

cold ether
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yoooo

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w

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i got 1k honor

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holy

clear pulsar
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I dont have a league account '-' I dont play that game

halcyon siren
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Good game tbh

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Wish I was good at it (I don't)

stray sigil
lime light
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red hair pig clown @stray sigil

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no flame ofc

lime light
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u gonna work for EP again, as u used to

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once he is back

stray sigil
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ep is gone and forgotten already

lime light
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no

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both wrong

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he is watching

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everyone waiting for his comeback

stray sigil
cold ether
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im being matchmade with dudes with 1600 rating

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im only at 500

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help

stray sigil
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stop looking at cr

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look at mmr

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cr doesnt matter

cold ether
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idk what a cr is

livid wasp
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combat res

stray sigil
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like dont look at rating in this game its kinda w.e

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its all about mmr

astral rune
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watching zechey finally convinced me to do blitz. Idk why it says feral(2) since all games have been cat.

livid wasp
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what about my crashing out games can be inspiring

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I won a 2.9k game I think my mmr is back to 3k now

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26 min queue time

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good luck though

astral rune
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ty ty

narrow willow
halcyon siren
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just an error

grand mesa
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Everytime a lurker comes out of the woodwork I think of how many people just silently read zechey crash out

velvet quest
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@grand mesa dont u think its so endearing to see fuji once again following in his senpai's footsteps and leveling the same class that im currently maining

grand mesa
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He just wants to be you so hard man

stray sigil
velvet quest
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if i mained boomkin do u think fuji would start playing it too

stray sigil
livid wasp
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I might tilt a lot but at least im not a total ass

clear pulsar
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Arent you silenced for what you say in chat?

livid wasp
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I was

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for ranting about my team

late wraith
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ffs

late wraith
livid wasp
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I would be a lot less insulted if someone wished me to get cancer than if someone threw those lines about my gameplay when my shuffle is going to shit

late wraith
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oh that's not your screencap

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okay

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i got confused i thought this was you saying that shit

livid wasp
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just classic twinklefairyx

astral rune
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it's not worth being toxic anymore

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or ever really but def not this late in the game with all the shit your acct has probably obtained thru the years

velvet quest
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not worth being toxic anymore? can u give me a rough timeline of when it was still considered worth it?

astral rune
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hence why I said or ever really

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it's never been worth it

velvet quest
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but its only not worth cause u could lose an old account? no other reasons why its not worth it?

astral rune
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it's not

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I'm not going to entertain this non issue, clearly we both know there are more reasons to it.

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I've never been muted in any game or platform so it's not an issue for me personally.

stray sigil
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or europeans in general

livid wasp
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its just balkan countries mostly

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ive watched russian blitz streamers and ive translated what they say in twitch chat and holy shit lol

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east eu countries w/e

stray sigil
tiny oar
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im a twinkle fairy if u know what i mean

stray sigil
tiny oar
stray sigil
halcyon siren
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The only game it's fun to shit talk in is league honestly, in this game you can't even talk to your opponents so you're just talking to your own team mates and like what's the point, at that point you're not having a moment of ego you're just taking your frustration out on your team

clear pulsar
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Does league have /all chat?

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I thought it didnt

shy snow
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it does

livid wasp
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in blitz people of your faction can understand you so /yell is kind of an all chat partly

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I like omni, he sounds like my head when I do blitz

halcyon siren
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Yeah it does. Of course you have people who have poor sportsmanship but the very vast majority of league all chat in my experience is random chat, ggs, appropriate and harmless genuine ego taunting/comments, funny sarcastic ego comments (saying stuff like better mid wins or mid gap when it's clear to all ten players in the lobby that they got dragged across the finish line after losing lane horrendously etc), 'damn wp' when you get styled on or 'xyz champ so broken legit' type comments.

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Mostly fun interactions like 90percent plus of the time

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Wish we had it in wow ):

sinful wing
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are there any reasons to "upgrade" items of pvp, at the vendor?

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Another question what are you doing with honor when its capped?

clear pulsar
clear pulsar
sinful wing
clear pulsar
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No, look at other vendors

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Vicious Bloodstone main one, you use it to socket your gear and you can sell/buy on the AH

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Sometimes there's crates of herbs, leather etc as well

halcyon siren
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Think most efficient dump is vicious bloodstone

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15k honour into 11k gold at current prices

sinful wing
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I see ty

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The purple heraldy i get from which activities? i only got this 9 in one quest

clear pulsar
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You buy it

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It's for crafting correspending to conquest gear

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You get 9 for free to start each season

sinful wing
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ok i see isee 🙂

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is it better to buy everything with conquer gear or craft it?

halcyon siren
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by and large safe to simply craft it

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there are some cases where you may want the extra versatility from a conquest item

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but crafting is very flexible. keep in mind to look up what your class wants for tier items.

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but once you have your classes 2/4p, you can safely craft your offsets. check murlok.io to figure out what the best players of your class are doing in shuffle, 3s, 2s, blitz etc

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for gear

sinful wing
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@halcyon siren thank you!
On most of the time in murlok its a 50% / 50% betweend conquer and crafted items that is why i was asking.

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I bought now one of healdry, i know i need more then one but why its not listed in the pop up? did i buy the wrong one?

clear pulsar
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If you're collecting mogs you should just buy armor

halcyon siren
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You need 4 heraldry for that item

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That's why it isn't letting you select the epic one

sinful wing
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thanks val

halcyon siren
clear pulsar
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Yeah you're mostly fine to buy the non-crit item from conquest vendor on all armor and just use crafted neck and rings to optimize 2ndary stats further if you're playing a new toon

halcyon siren
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It's all sbout how much versatility you want. The difference between every offset item crafted vs everything but one ring crafted is about 8 or 90percent versatility (if you craft stat + versatility on the crafted items, more if you craft ex haste mastery) so conquest items are gunna make you take about 4percent less damage as a flat value

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Some classes want as much of that as possible, some classes don't care.

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I wouldn't be playing any melee (idk about dk, maybe they could) with less than 30percent versatility right now but lots of casters are running less

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But as face said, you're good to buy any conquest item with no crit unless you're doing something really weird and cooking something

halcyon siren
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@livid wasp you grinding bud?

livid wasp
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not yet

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cba grinding too much anyway its over

halcyon siren
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givin up?

livid wasp
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too low iq to beat the top ferals

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its not worth losing my mental state every night

halcyon siren
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damn it's quitterville

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soon this will be you

tropic schooner
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couldnt play as much as I wanted yet tho

sand laurel
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Is Feral one of the scariest in arena if completely ignored?

Also I remember during DF AoE Rips got insane at one point

safe heart
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No lol

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If you let feral go ham on you during incarn maybe but I think there are alot of other specs like destro and aff and dev that could go way crazier if you left them alone

clear pulsar
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AOE Rips was more for the King of the Jungle stacks vs pets

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Than anything

halcyon siren
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stays in the game perma

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feels so good

tropic schooner
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for specific lines

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but no shot its staying like this for future sets imo

halcyon siren
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maybe remove the '2 star x with 2 items' unlock requirement

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but the others seem fine

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idk i will see how i feel whejn i'm out of ratleague and into ratleague 2.0

viscid remnant
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where EP

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@lime light

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poe2 download up

lime light
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yes sir

grand mesa
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Poe2 bad

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D4 good login d4

livid wasp
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farming 20 games a night

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if I get a win streak then good ill be high rated

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if not then gg

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its about luck anyway

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unless you play 1000000000 games

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and play really good

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and I cba

halcyon siren
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Every poe expac 90 usd because those mfers get me with supporters

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Dogs

halcyon siren
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Zechey don't give up

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U were so inspiring

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We both can't give up

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100 rating short

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Cmon man

lime light
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@viscid remnant davider

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iam dying to white mobs

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not good

viscid remnant
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lul

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btw iam titan bear

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not amazon wolf

lime light
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and iam not even kidding

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iam legit dying to white mobs XD

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my st is okish

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rest is dogshit

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lunar assault does 10 dmg

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idk legit gameplay wise its fun

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but its impossibl;e to play melee amazon in act1

livid wasp
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is blitz matchmaking even real

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ive seen this one monk tank and he has always been on the opposing side

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like 10 times

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back on 2.8k

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deepwind gorge so much better than AB tbh

livid wasp
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im streaming jungle with surv

livid wasp
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going so shit

livid wasp
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I hate how I cant know for sure if im throwing or if its my healer

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or when its my hunter

narrow willow
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I wanted my 25 strategist wins and be done for the season, but now im getting closer and closer to 3k and i kinda want that milestone 😅 but im scared to want it much so i wont get disappointed when i wont 😅

livid wasp
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just do it

narrow willow
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2948 now rank 55 boomie
I feel a little imposterish playing with 3.1 rated sometimes

tardy hare
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Rank 55 of a class at almost 3k is crazy numbers haha

livid wasp
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im rank 16 at 2947

halcyon siren
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mm and other easy influential classes

narrow willow
#

Yea lets go guardian and have r1 at 2.8 😅

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How does even matchmaking as tanks work?

halcyon siren
#

queue doesn't pop unless you're against another tank

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tanks are actually fairly popular and you can get high mmr games because there is a few gaurdian and blood dk 1 tricks

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most of the other tank specs are alted by the r1s

vestal citrus
#

great for win trading

wintry jackal
#

Can you send the clips?

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I’ll take a look and let you know what I see

livid wasp
#

like dks so broken feels like you gotta be on your toes all the time against that shit

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all the cc then theres strangulate with their insane burst idk

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anyway gonna sleep now

random patrol
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just remember when you fall down you get up and fall down again

strange sedge
#

elunes chosen have any place in balance pvp ? i have never played it but just dont see it at all. prefer the moon over treants 😛

cold ether
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i need midnight to come out

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i cant wait this long

random patrol
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watch it get delayed until june

tiny oar
#

more time to queue

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get grinding motherfuckers

random patrol
#

bring back torghast

tiny oar
random patrol
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bring it back as relevant content but just for Lake

livid wasp
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summit playing wow is always the most random thing

lime light
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@viscid remnant how is gaming

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idk i dont have u on pou 2 smh

viscid remnant
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end of act 3

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idk its abit shit ngl

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classical poe2

shy snow
halcyon siren
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Zechey are you locked in

livid wasp
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no

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nobody queues and there will be some blitz tournament on twitch causing even worse queues probably

halcyon siren
#

Is that today

grand mesa
livid wasp
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think so

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how does it work, do they pick the 16 players then randomize before starting the games or can they be done as skirms idk

clear pulsar
#

Is it a twitch rivals thing or where do I watch this

halcyon siren
#

Weedtyler stream

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It's not random it's teams in a bracket zechey

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It's wargames played on blitz maps

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I watched last year it was actually very fun to watch

clear pulsar
#

Who tf is weedtyler

halcyon siren
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Blitzer

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Who organized this tournament and last

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It's a community ran tournament

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The last one was fun enough to watch it made me wish this was the pvp esport replacing or adjacent to awc

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But mostly because awc is a slog to watch tbf

grand mesa
#

I had the most unfair first lobby on an rsham toon last night lmao

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Why was I matched with this healer. It’s presumably a 400 MMR difference. 5-1 lost 120 KEKW Don’t think a 6-0 would have saved

halcyon siren
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It would have

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You only lost mmr because you the game thinks you should never lose to someone 400 lower than u

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And u did

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Bizarre that lobby even formed tho

clear pulsar
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I mean

halcyon siren
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And pathetically unfun for all involved

grand mesa
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We used to have MMR spreads that wide in early DF when they fiddled with it

clear pulsar
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I'm guessing tthis game has something like dota's certainty for your mmr too

grand mesa
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But I haven’t personally seen one that wide since

clear pulsar
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If it's your 1st game I dont think the matchmaking is trying to place you in a very narrow range of matches

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So even if your number says 1 thing, it's just cuz something has to be shown

halcyon siren
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Yeah also starting mmv being 2100

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Hly fuvk

grand mesa
#

Well no starting MMR is a thing

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I think only thing that fucks it up

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Well two things

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Is Thag I have MMR on ele

halcyon siren
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They're agnostic

grand mesa
#

Starting first game MMR used to bleed over

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In DF

halcyon siren
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If you've never played a single game of resto that's starting mmr

grand mesa
#

Not sure if it does now

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I don’t think starting MMR is 2100

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it’s close. Certainly over 2000

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But not quite there

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based on my recent like ret first game shuffle

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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But also I noticed they try really really hard to match low/no CR folks in placement games together

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Which probably causes them to relax the search band

halcyon siren
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I will play a resto game on a never played resto druid

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And see what it is

grand mesa
#

Yeah it’s def over 2000

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but idk about 21

halcyon siren
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Ngl it nakes me want to grab some cosmetic sets

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Dh monk maybe

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Mage

grand mesa
#

So this was a healer who was complaining ( I forget where) about match quality. And the 2 healers got matched into 4 dps’s first game. 1978 starting MMR. This was 15 days ago. I don’t think it’s 2100 yet. Think it’s +15 a week currently this season

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Maybe I played rsham on that toon a bit this expac and forgot no clue

halcyon siren
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i'm baited

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i'm logging in and send my presvoker into give some healer a 6-0

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will report back

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might actually just troll the dps and leave before gates open tbh

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doing my part the ruin shuffle

clear pulsar
#

unbearable I hate you

halcyon siren
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you cannot possibly hate me more than I hate myself tbh

livid wasp
clear pulsar
#

I could tell by the amount of league of legends you watch

halcyon siren
halcyon siren
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starting point

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3min in queue btw what the fuck

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2101 start

livid wasp
#

and yeah I do agree bgs are a more exciting form or pvp

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of

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than arenas

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to watch and to play

tiny oar
#

big eledmmg +8 disc cmrannk

halcyon siren
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LMFAO I WON

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AGAINST ANOTEHR PRES

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I'M THE GOAT

halcyon siren
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I am a first time presvoker actually

tiny oar
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oh ur presing

halcyon siren
#

born again presmain

tiny oar
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HELL YEA

halcyon siren
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to test the starting mmr

grand mesa
#

I can’t figure out pres

tiny oar
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GL GL FRIEND

tiny oar
grand mesa
#

2100 starting with like atleast 5-6 weeks to go

halcyon siren
#

yeah

grand mesa
#

Finish off the 1800 for your disc and then idk whatever healer is next ez

clear pulsar
#

I remember when puzzle used to play with me

grand mesa
#

U never ask and the random times I do you say no

clear pulsar
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You never ask ?!?!?!

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"The random times I do": 2023

grand mesa
#

bro

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Ele survival is sick

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It’s your time

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Nay

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Dare I say

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our time

halcyon siren
#

end result

clear pulsar
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Oh you won 1 round

halcyon siren
#

2

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actually

clear pulsar
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I thought you'd won the lobby tsc tsc

halcyon siren
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no i feel it would have been impossible to win the lobby

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i wuold say i lost the lobby because i gave the dps going 6-0 a loss

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unfort

grand mesa
#

bro I haven’t lost MMR in my starting lobby in a long time and the immediate two lobbies after were unreal

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Last night

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No one does damage rounds were lasting 4 min kinda crazy

halcyon siren
#

i just went in with a pve spec but i bet this guy is pretty fun

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if you play him well

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he does a lot of damage i noticed

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like

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when i did the blue beam it kinda pumped

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and the red breath

grand mesa
#

@clear pulsar did I ever give u my spiel about how bugged rsham mana is it’s absurd

halcyon siren
#

anyways back to a real game

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won't be baited by puzzle like that again

livid wasp
#

too bad youre NA we could go blitz duo

halcyon siren
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anyone wanna play tft

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na region

grand mesa
#

Is rsham good in blitz zechey

halcyon siren
#

yes

livid wasp
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tft? disgusting

halcyon siren
#

all healers are good in blitz

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except rdruid

grand mesa
#

I feel like it would never oom in a long team fight with how bugged rsham mana is

halcyon siren
#

but lowkey still rdruid

livid wasp
#

I duoed with a rsham he got banned for 20 days

grand mesa
#

Lmao for what

halcyon siren
#

rsham can't fc

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like priest mw and pres

livid wasp
#

polish attitude

halcyon siren
#

same problem as hpala

grand mesa
#

Oh

halcyon siren
#

actually it can fc better than hpala

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so still playable

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but u r at the mercy of rng on flag maps basically

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whereas pres or disc u r never at themercy of anything

grand mesa
# clear pulsar No

Normal mp5 on water shield is 2000. Because of a bug with earth shield. They fixed that bug. But incidentally because of earth shield fix the mp5 on water shield is now 20,000. When they tried to fix the 20k mp5 bug the original earth shield bug came back so they said fuck it. So they left water shield returning 10x the mana it’s supposed to. This all happened late s2 and pvers just walked in knowing that it’s bugged mana and we’re getting 20k mp5/10x return all tier and we shouldn’t.

But for some reason in PvP it’s 36,000 mp5

clear pulsar
#

I always have hated rsham yk

livid wasp
#

I wish I could play on both NA and EU servers with same wow account

clear pulsar
#

Is the mana from melee attacks also 36k

grand mesa
#

Idk maybe never checked

safe heart
#

I'm stacking mp5 next season fr

grand mesa
#

I think the mode is so boring

livid wasp
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it would be the best if I never lost

livid wasp
#

what makes 3v3 so exciting

#

if bgb is boring to you

halcyon siren
#

i like when my queue is sub 3 minutes

grand mesa
#

globals pressed

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but tbh i really have no clue what happens in BGB idek where to go

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maybe if i actually knew what was going on i'd enjoy it more

livid wasp
#

the meta pretty easy to learn

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as something like rogue it can be difficult, you can affect the outcome by so much if you react correctly

safe heart
#

The meta is afk till its over

halcyon siren
halcyon siren
#

guess it's just me

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i guess rarely i will kill a noob in the opener

tropic schooner
#

and just statistically you have more impact when fewer people, I also just enjoy arena gameplay more compared to bg

halcyon siren
#

counterpoint: assymetrical gameplay in bgs can create moments where you have significantly more impact

tropic schooner
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thats not a counterpoint at all

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that also means you have 0 impact on the other side of the map

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you are just less percentage of your team

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doesnt mean thats a bad or a good thing

halcyon siren
#

I don't think I worded my point very well,

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alas

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taking the l

tropic schooner
#

things like movement/rotation is just a different skill

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which you need for rbgs

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but not in arena

halcyon siren
#

the only skill i got is cranking 2 8th in a row at gold

tropic schooner
#

hope my mop raid isnt too long and I can send some tft later today

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gotta try to force some void

halcyon siren
#

i went first with nashor earlier

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kai'sa very fun

safe heart
clear pulsar
tropic schooner
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but I dont think its true on average

clear pulsar
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Right, on average is not the point

tropic schooner
#

sure I guess, I find it doesnt really make sense to look at it that way tho

safe heart
#

If I'm playing blitz I'm absolutely not giving it my 100% and we could still easily win

tropic schooner
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cause you will have also more games where your gameplay has next to 0 impact

clear pulsar
#

Yeah ofc. But I think the consistency, if you're playing at a certain level every game and performing similarly, can make it feel as boring as the blitz games where you dont impact the result

tropic schooner
#

sure depends on the person

clear pulsar
#

And on your role too for sure

tropic schooner
#

nothing wrong with enjoying bg gameplay over arena

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can understand that

clear pulsar
#

Like I think as healer it's much easier make impactful outplays in shuffle than blitz

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But I also play very little blitz + hate it + dont wanna bother with it

tropic schooner
#

to me I think having to feel that you need to make impactful plays is weird

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but Im aware some people have that

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but fuck me are people throwing so many games because they feel like they need to be impactful

clear pulsar
#

Well it's part of the fun

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But it doesnt have to be like flashy

safe heart
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I love guarding bases in bgs, it's like the max impact role where you do nothing lol

grand mesa
#

I absolutely have no clue where to go in BGB 😂

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ESP as healer

tropic schooner
#

feels so difficult

grand mesa
#

That gives me anxiety

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Ngl

tropic schooner
#

kinda need to pay attention 24/7

grand mesa
#

The idea of guarding and the order of presses against rogue or something who’s coming to solo cap

clear pulsar
safe heart
#

I mean you can casually watch the flav

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Flag

tropic schooner
#

eh

safe heart
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Can't be afk but you just sit there 40 yards away staring at it

tropic schooner
#

oh yea you ofc have to do that

safe heart
#

But otherwise you just hang out and wait for it to be over

halcyon siren
#

guarding base is horrenous in real games

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you have to play better than the enemy team or you lose for free and most of your fights are going to be 1vx or 2vx with no healer

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and they don't need to kill you just kill 1 of you etc

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and healers are so strong that being at man disadvantage for xyz in team fight might not even mean a teamfight swings etc

safe heart
#

I mean it's just numbers
If they swarm you and you stall them, they're risking something else

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And as the defender you also don't need to kill anyone

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Usually I just stay 40 yards away tagging with mf , not even actively trying to kill them

grand mesa
#

@clear pulsar duo with me for BGB?

clear pulsar
#

sus sure

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Are you on rn? You are OFFLINE

grand mesa
#

oh no I’m out of town rn

#

what would u play

clear pulsar
#

I only have gear on druid

#

I may have honor to buy stuff on hunter but cba

#

Thinking of leveling a priest rn

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So boomie ig

grand mesa
#

Don’t u already have a priest

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Facethevoid

grand mesa
livid wasp
#

why does fucking kotmogu have to pop so often

#

worst bg ever made

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I lose it every time

grand mesa
#

Imagine once you learn how to win that map and it pops that map like crazy. Freelo!

livid wasp
#

I was top on points

#

how am I the reason we lose

livid wasp
#

aaweaweaweaweae

#

season best rating

#

climbing

livid wasp
#

how are you supposed to fight a dh at shrine

#

they have more mobility they can take the cd reset a lot more easily

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their cds are really broken for 1v1

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he can always see stealth

halcyon siren
#

I will bgb w u guys if you want (I cannot play healers at a real mmr)

halcyon siren
#

Go live

livid wasp
#

2840 on alt

#

I am live

halcyon siren
#

Dh will beat u at shrine equal skill

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U can take base from him tho

livid wasp
#

shouldve just not gone there again after he killed me for the first time

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or just sit at cd reset not leave it

halcyon siren
#

1v1 u can take

livid wasp
#

I dont have some addon telling me when it comes back

halcyon siren
#

U can take base in a bash

livid wasp
#

SAPIKOAOSDIKPAOSDIKP

halcyon siren
#

Or rake stun

livid wasp
#

WHY DO I GET KOTMOGU

#

ITS SO SHIT

#

I DONT WANT TO PLAY IT

halcyon siren
#

He has to tribket

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And then u can clone

livid wasp
#

nah

#

he will see me coming

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and I cant sneak up on him

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he will go for me first

halcyon siren
#

Weedtyler stream up for those interested

#

Fir tourny

livid wasp
#

so fucking tilting

halcyon siren
#

Qgat happened

livid wasp
#

lost kotmogu by like 20 points

#

why do I get that shit

halcyon siren
#

You're getting a free win in gilneas

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By an insane teamfight gap

livid wasp
#

rare free win

#

11-6 this week

#

could be worse

lavish pagoda
#

thinking about trebuchets rn

livid wasp
#

one more game and ill go for a nightly jog

#

they truly are fighting hard for that 2500 prize pool

halcyon siren
#

Believe in u zechey

livid wasp
#

against a WW shrine was free

halcyon siren
#

Yeah he can't live

#

Think I lost to 1 ww ever and he was just better than me

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Equal skill not sure they can ever win this season

livid wasp
#

good WWs are really tough tho

fallow root
halcyon siren
#

Feral

fallow root
#

Yeah I’m a WW main
If I don’t have trinket/ karma or fort up I’m not winning 1v1

halcyon siren
#

But that was last season at 27mme

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Mmr

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And I think they're worse this season numerically so prob even harder to win as ww

#

In that 1v1

fallow root
#

WW shouldnt be base sitting anywho

halcyon siren
#

He came to take my base garf

fallow root
#

Ohh

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Only way I’m beating a feral is if I can CoC the maim and then cc/kite berzerk

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Then I’m still probably dying to bleeds
WW has a good 1v1 kit but numerically yeah it’s defensively just a little behind the curve
Ur best Defensive is port

livid wasp
#

we talk about dueling WW and then randomly some WW main lurker pops up in the chat

#

I hate that meta in silvershard

#

rogue coming and stopping alliance offcart team

#

so hard to get mid then

fallow root
#

You guys manifested it 🙂
Naw I wanna play a druid spec in blitz, don’t think I want to do boomy cause I feel like they just PvE in the back of the TF
Feral makes plays

livid wasp
#

sometimes idk

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would be kinda interesting to ahve something like arathi blizzard in blitz

#

cant see where players are

#

man theres an addon that tells how long it takes for each cart to cap?

halcyon siren
#

Yes

#

Multiple I think

#

Capping is one of them

livid wasp
#

I hate how that stuff has to be an addon and not in game

stray sigil
#

ww in duel

#

is pure ass nowadays

#

u have to play conduit and cheese

#

if u play shadopan u cant win anything

grand mesa
#

U can’t talk about WW with Fuji here always lurking

halcyon siren
#

Rat ww reroller

#

Etc etc etc

#

(Me asf in midnight)

grand mesa
#

Fuji’s messing around with a new class now

livid wasp
#

the camera guy was so lost in the AB game

#

in the tournament

tiny oar
#

what we feeling

grand mesa
#

It may come as a shock to everyone here

#

But I’m electing to play shaman

tiny oar
grand mesa
#

I just play with Fuji then I remember why I don’t like priest

#

He’s anti waver medicine

livid wasp
#

ill play feral even if its the worst shit

viscid remnant
#

WW

livid wasp
#

I wonder how many people are gonna pre-order the diablo expansion just cause of fomo with the cool housing items

halcyon siren
#

Maybe kaisa

halcyon siren
#

Idk I'm an alt enjoyer cosmetic farmer so chances are I will play dev in s1 to 1800, feral or dev to tabard

#

Idr what else caught my eye

#

Mage rogue dh all shit iirc

#

Gr8 looking set

stray sigil
tiny oar
halcyon siren
#

Warlock kinda xool too

#

So I'll probably play these 3

#

At some point in the season

stray sigil
halcyon siren
#

Pve enh shaman maybe, enh is thr only guy I've tested that feels cool enough to want to play in a game mode I don't like much

#

Wbu lake what are you gunba play

stray sigil
#

design wise of being a real hybrid

halcyon siren
#

I like the totem one

grand mesa
#

They removed stormweaver last build Fuji I think

#

The talent went to uncategorized

#

On datamine

#

I didn’t go and check

halcyon siren
#

Idk I don't take pve very seriously or shaman, so if totemic isn't meta

#

I just won't play it lol

#

Seriously is the wrong word

#

I'm a pve tourist and play it as long as my friends do ig is the better way to describe it

stray sigil
#

totem is kinda ass in pvp ur kinda just a warrior then

#

u cant heal and shit

halcyon siren
#

Ya I'm not gunna play shaman pvp

#

Just pve

#

Idk I'm pretty depressed about midnight, My pc, and my performance in game so it might be a depression quit overall

random patrol
#

just play havoc or dev or maybe their lovechild(I dont actually know) vore dh

livid wasp
#

even they hate kotmogu

#

rerolling it

#

REMOVE IT

halcyon siren
#

Lol

livid wasp
#

why would you skip mines

#

now you have this shit

#

enjoy

halcyon siren
#

Ez kotmogu dub

#

Vs a 1200 team

livid wasp
#

4 am this shit running too late

#

gn

halcyon siren
#

Gn

safe heart
#

I wanna play shadow priest tn

grand mesa
#

Queue up

halcyon siren
#

No, that's all right

safe heart
#

i queued up a mythic

random patrol
#

tempted to use a hunter to get elite since I got super close last season and boomy is prob just way worse then mm

livid wasp
#

so theyre making sudden ambush useless

#

too

livid wasp
lime light
#

@viscid remnant still playing?

viscid remnant
#

Not reall

livid wasp
#

addon overload

#

holy shit how much it would make my life easier

#

if there was a woman saying pet stun and trap

#

and other cc on healer

#

I cant wait to see how other people suddenly get worse when they no longer have that luxury

tiny oar
livid wasp
#

yeah

#

never used it

#

felt like cheating

tiny oar
#

its in the game man

#

dont complain abt other ppl having it and then say its cheating lol

halcyon siren
#

he didn't say it was cheating

#

he said it felt like cheating

late wraith
#

zechey do you not use addons at all?

#

in a game where everyone else is using addons?

viscid remnant
#

WHERE ARE YOUR ADDONS

#

DONT NEED IT

late wraith
#

i know you use addons so don't start

livid wasp
#

I do but I still try to see what happens in the playing field since I think it's a big part of pvp

#

I am mostly going to miss not having tracking for kicks

#

gonna be fun to try to clone

#

I hope blizzard will bring them to the game

sinful wing
#

what you doing with the conquest you have after buying pvp gear?