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Well if you were 3k how I got back down to 2.7
fucking bullshit
If you been losing for a week…. Take a week off bro
I started playing a week ago
how am I the one failing
their feral did like 2/3 of my damage
in same teamfights
our stupid idiots defending the flags just got capped
rogue didnt call out anything
then they capped us again with a dk and hunter defending neither of them calling shit
how is this shit my fault
how is it my fault their team gets a ret, hunter and rogue on offcarts on mine map and they just own us
how is it my fault they get some tryhard outlaw rogue on flag map that picks the flag for their fc
and our fc cant live for shit
what the fuck am I supposed to do
how do I win these games
It’s a team game you all failing
I wish they removed this fucking shit so I wouldnt have to think about it ever
worst thing ever added in tww
idk wtf is wrong with blizzard
U mean blitz?
yes I mean blitz
It’s fine
You just want to get to R1
If it was easy anybody could do it
It’s a team mode
no you queue solo
You queue solo but it’s a team mode
Just a team of randoms
It’s easier to get r1 in shuffles lol
maybe
some people have it so easy in their lives
just queueing and going rank 1
like its nothing
I wanna see how the ferals do it but nobody streams
queues only happen at night
How did you get to 3k then?
I dont know
So it was a fluke and now you are in ur real mmr?
I remember s1 of TWW (the only I played) as balance Druid I was cooking early and it was looking amazing then all the DKs showed up everywhere and it felt hopeless on any mode
again lost
so many losses
so pissed off
so
pissed
off
almost 4 am server time and 6 min queues
cba anymore tho
some of these EU blitz streamers go on NA when queues die
literally queuing all night
Do the same….
I would lose it
I mean patience and to not tilt is what he needs but…..
all I need is good bg sessions and climbing above 3.1k
its not possible for anyone to not tilt at blitz
kinda facts honestly
Its just a game, bro you need a woman then you wont ever tilt again at blitz
everyone always typing shit and everyone I know who has played a lot has been banned
sometimes it legit is unbearable
After you get tilted at the woman you can’t get tilted more at the game
weird thing to say my man
getting rank 1 gladiator is a more realistic goal than a woman
Well there went everything out the window
Apparently not…. lol
for me at least
after u get tilted at your pet goldfish you won't ever get tilted at the game again tbh
I just want to have fun with my dopamine but the game doesnt want to let me have any
real


The light inside my eyes died years ago 
Voodooray got the energy this chat needs tbh
Real shit
How’s the grind been Val
I think to shake the chat up a bit we should talk about how feral / boomie / resto will feel in midnight
Got to 2300 then dropped to 2220, 2x 3-3s
Haven't queued today
Think I can get it though, idk seems achievable esp if inflation trends favorably for me
boomy felt fine before this week's patch I havent been on to test it but the changes look good , class tree is as bland as ever though
got shuffle pop, accidently clicked trasnmog mount and it crashed my pc so i got to lose the first 2 rounds for free
almost down 100 rating
i remember why i hate pvp
Oh yeah that's gonna turn out real posivibes
How cooked is it face
80 plus coffins later doubt I can fit then all of course
To be fair boomie looks good
Idk about resto I haven't tested any healing spec
Heard it bursts harder than feral though 8)
Idk the UI is the worst part, shit's ugly as shit and lots of missing functionality
Resto is losing practically all healing that isnt spam regrowth
It's really lame in dungeons, I cant imagine it'll be fun in pvp
resto already is spam regrowth what could possibly drive it further in that direction
Eh
It's really not
I mean
It's part of it
But not exactly as a spotheal tool
Not fully, if anything not majorly as a spotheal tool
i take your word at it, my anecdotal experience is i have regrowthed more this season than any season previous and regrowth is a massive portion of my hps
but i play resto extremely casually
Regrowth's direct healing is maybe 12-15% of my m+ healing
15-18% counting forest's flow
But the 'maintenance hot' aspect of it from wildstalker is much stronger
And you can let people get healed up by hots pretty comfortably
regrowth and the effects of casting it* are a major part of my hps
Right, not 'spam regrowth during the damage event or you literally can not deal with anything'
Yeah it's a little bit more uneven
They removed a lot of talents that diversified healign sources
And added Regrowth buffs
my homies doing 7percent
pog
wouldn't mind seeing regrowth healing redistributed to lifebloom and rejuv and efflo,
maybe not rejuv, i'm not sure how much i like rejuv being a huge part of hps
wild growth being a non-spell is shitty tho
because it's one of the few casted spells rdruid has, feels like it should be more
BRO the fucking convert timerunner button is gone again
i fucking hate this dog ass game
Well it is rn in beta
As in you have to press it a lot
Because of Abundance
Cuz Regrowth crits are 300% healing
yeah abundance is why idk if i like rejuv being itself hella hps,
It turns into a real dps rotation style of builder spender gameplay
Where it's just everything is a builder to make Regrowth 40% of your meter
I'm not a fan
unfort
It leaves little space for the balancing act of DPSing while healing, for knowledge and awareness of your limits with hots etc
Lmao
bummer
any pou enjoyers tho
SWEET VICTORY
happy for u queen
Glad it could be off my back
no
I keep having loss streaks
im trying to get my alt up to same rating as main but I cant
I lost it last night
good that I was silenced
just want transmog for other classes rn ^^
thanks face having fun ^_^
What's your nick in game Zechey? We play at simmilar MMR rn, so i can cheer you on if we match up together 😁
Zechey is zechey
If we are together i will try extra hard to win, if we are against each other im not sure yet... 😁
You only queue at night?
R1 is unreachable for me so that doesn't bother me i just need 11 more Strategist wins
well queues happen at night so

oh noez u droped hard :c
How so btw? More people play then or less?
lol lol lolo lol lol lol
Is it ape push time?
why doesnt my team get a dk
or anything
in eots
useless clueless people
so fucking ridiculous
cant drop the flag cause of broken grips by dk all the time
useless team not knowing the meta
fucking shit teams
1-2 so far
fucking useless
impossible to climb
im so pissed off
2.6k mmr
like jesus
queue up
I am
okay
super laggy for me, but might be my internet
are we playing shuffle or blitz
blitz i guess?
i dont even know how feral is played now, just like a rogue u camp a base / interrupt enemy FC
or u are an FC
or tanks do that now
or mw / evoker is just insane for that kind of shit
yeah and try to do good clones
idk kinda shit compared to boomy
please let this be the winstreak
yes
maybe
Last night I went full zechy
5th bg with the same evoker in a row

useless ass DH tank
who doesnt go defend
if you cant follow basic instructions at the start then you deserve to be reported for griefing
I thought this was gonna be the winstreak to 3k but it was just 4 wins and now another loss streak starts
tempy stopgap measure in place now to buy all the replacement pipes wooooooooooooooooo
just call the maintenance guy
Hpals deserve the worst fate possible

why do that when I lit used to do pipes for a living
more fun to
best part of owning a house is making it better and working on it while listening to badass music
you made it sound like you hate it
nah I just make it an excuse to work on projects
while smoking weed
you got rank 1 in blitz yet
@safe heart hpals or resto druids that overlap clones bout the same
unrealistic goal
like stop cloning and heal me
to be fair trying to push rank 1 in a bracket with 7 other random people sounds rough as f
even if you duo q I wouldnt want to do it
Hpals divine steed hoj rep for free all day long and it's fucking criminal
The real question is what rank he is atm lol
like 16 on the higher rated feral
So there are 15 players ahead of you
What’s the difference between urs and the next guy? Then vs the rank1?
like 7 people or something ahead of me cause many alts
im like 2950 r1 is like 3.2k
idk too hard to climb there
gotta play like a pro somehow to make a difference as feral idk
I am considering it feels like I lose more than win
You might lose more than win but don’t lose as much rank
dno about that
I mean you can do the math lol
5 loss streak and gg mmr and rating have dropped so hard you need to have an insane winstreak to climb back up
#nerfmw
going to enjoy this until it's hotfixed(floating house)
All those question marks and red icons wtf
@edgy basin Im color blind and those are talents not taken deal with it
red is also semi nightmare themed
Oh the red icons looks cool, the questions marks I was trying to figure out what each was lol
yeah when a abillity isn't known and it's macroed it turns into a question mark @edgy basin
I could prob give them icons though
this dude
hes full ilvl 730 maxed everything bis everything playing hunter
and he just spam q's unrated battle grounds and shits on kids
its insane
every couple games i see him and its so unplayable
Number go up
wdym it 'gives you the same shit' as unrated
bro i want to be good enough to play at an mmr where 70% + matches aren't decided for some dps or healer blatantly going 0-6
it just feels so bad to be in these matches with people who are literally fresh characters and and your 4/2 or 3/3 is so easily thrown by like a random mistake, had one yesterday where i ended up 2-4 because the mage didn't block in one of the matches and the healer went 5-1 instead of 6-0
Did you already come around on being mad at someone playing unrated?
i mean the dude is kinda trolling with his comments anyways in this and feral chat, wouldn't pay too much mind. complains about being ungeared but when presented with a no-effort no skill method to attain full gear in 6hrs he said 'nah' and also complained about having to put a craft order in for his necklace/rings
boomer mentality
Holy fent

i'm sorry i am just a mentally fried blitz main losing every round at duelist in shuffle i lack the intellect to recognize a good rage bait before it's too late
me too bud, me too.
i am trying to change my ways but let me tell you
i am legitimately so bad it's crazy
yea
thats not at all what happened and thats pretty toxic and disrespectful for u to say that, blocked for that
ngl
yea
i realized this as im playing my first game after a rated battleground lol
based lmao
That expansion is 10 years old
people say that about legion but man, ilvl in legion felt so impactful
my 940 hunter outpumped my 924 hunter by a like large amount
That's crazy
Cuz the way it worked was
16 ilvls was 1.6% more stats
That is 1/10 the impact of ilvl in actual gear rn
maybe just confirmation bias
ig
or misremembering
or just midjudging, perhaps, because somebody in all greens w just 4peice feels like they are unbelievably more weak than full geared, not just 10percent weaker
Cheers m8
Rated pvp does not at all have the same rewards as unrated
THATS ALOT
surely if i reroll entirely to marksmanship hunter i will break 2300 in shuffle
surely
U can always wait for last few weeks
Mmr inflation puts you there
without doing anything stinky like playing MM Hunter
my motivation to play is withering as we speak I will not be here in a few weeks I fear
Well there's a compounding effect when you're both hitting and getting hit by someone with a gear difference yeah?
If you have 10% more HP and do 10% more damage, you kill them 21% faster, not 10%.
Krill issue
though it is tempting, because ostensibly, hitting 2299 and hovering between 2150 and 2250 would mean that i could inflate into legend
if i kept up
In Legion there was some minimal amount of AP that you wanted to grind for the final nodes in the artifact weapons, it was capped but it wasn't filled by default
u dont neccesarily need to keep up. your MMR is inflating every day u don't play. and even if u 3-3 your CR will try to catch up to your MMR
afk until last week if u want to lol
the people ur playing against now will be your 2.3 2.4 lobbies
What are you playing if not MM?
I need to keep up for practices sake, I still have a lot to learn and learn every game
the reality is I don't so much actually care about legenddd/cr, I want to be 'good' and get into good games.
the games I play in shuffle do not feel good
over 50percent of the time
why is that
because I am matched with fresh or green geared characters that are going 0-6 in the lobby with minimal competition roughly 50pergcentg of my lobbies
maybe a bit less maybe a bit morgeg
yeah ur hovering at the MMR whereit's the players 2nd lobby
and they just 6-0'd or 5-1'd the first
starting MMR is 2000 now
i actually don't know 'how' they're getting in the lobbies because my first lobby was 1800
but u should be crushing those
yeah that must be it
idk
i mean i go 4-2
i am not good enough to carry them
sometimes i go 3-3 if they make a mistake ala not blocking or bubbling or whatever
not swappnig
something
or i make a mistake
Chokemiestro
and if that's a healer lobby that is going to be a 6-0 healer suddenly it's a 2-4
shrug
I wish I could instill in people the 'balance' of being aware and at peace with your inevitable plateau vs a drive to still try to improve and learn more always and do better next time
Once u comfortable get out of 2nd game range it feels better
U can tell because 1+ players have low cr
That don’t match MMR of lobby at all
They’re on their second or third game
I just don't think 2300 is my plateau currently, it might be, and if it is
the bar is low for sure but at the very least everyone is atleast geared
i will acecpt it
Most of my friends in wow and dota fall in one of the 2 cups
1 really wants to improve and climb tend to get more irritated when they lose or even don't omega blaster climb (zechey but with more civility)
1 just bangs their head into keyboard and never seem interested in how to do better, trying to, etc
I said most of my friends
i definitely became less intersted in rdruid when the low hanging fruit gameplay gains
were all captured
and patch note tuning determined my shit more than anything else
lowkey
ill take the slightly longer q time if it means gamers are closer
cause literaly after my rbg i q'd for an unrated
did 400mil dmg and i was top of the leaderboard and we still lost
and thats not a good thing im only like 710 ilvl
Dmg =/= win
the rated actually felt good
i just need to save up now for some lacquer and conquest so i can buy some 730 gear
I think that looking at it from a CR perspective is not very productive. You'll land in a different CR if you were like objectively ranked by God depending on the season, the time in the season, your spec, etc.
i agree with what face said
But just do your best bro and if you're really playing to try to reach a goal (or just improve in general), take some more actionable steps towards that
2300/2400 is just not static season to season
i wouldn't obsess about the number too much
Like what zechey does lowkey, record, stream, show others (not the insanity flaming and whining and telling people to be afflicted by carcinogens)
but i get it first elite and all that is exciting
Yes with the insanity, flaming, carcinogens
i hope zechey never changes
Yeah I was rly depresso with pvp in DF s2
After they shot resto harder than ev before
And I couldnt make all the ratings for rewards
:pepebutt
i could have a bad day but i could peek into pvp and realize that zechey is having worse
can someone explain the rewards for rating really quick
i haven't looked into it at all
i know theres the gladiator and elite sets
i was looking at some custom groups for rbgs and some ppl said 2400+ rating
idk what corresponds to what reward
Currency wise it just rewards more of it, especially conquest, a lot more than unrated
There's transmog recolor for the conquest set up to 1800 rating
Weapon enchant at 1950
Weapon recolors for 2100
Tabard and cloak somewhere higher than that
elite set is 1800 rating. wep illusion (this season looks good) is 1950. the pvp tint for wep mogs is 2.1
all ur titles are for current season, the only title that lasts permanently are r1 titles
so you can be Grant the Elite Druid for 2400 this season
goes away
but yeah 1800 mog, 1950 wep illuion, 2100 wep mogs, 2400 tabard/pennant
if u got glad once
why would u q for it again right
if u just keep title
True
Interesting stuff
And I have a ton of marks of honor saved up
Is that used for older season sets?
Oh it is
It is, also for the weapon recolors
It's all the conquest weapons but red this season
Very cool very legal
Damn
And if you have omega leftover you can just buy honor/reagents for crafting
Sometimes
Idk if those are up rn
Yeah I am talking about within the vacuum of this season on this spec, I just don't think 2300 is my plateau right now.
I took a 5plus year break from feral and played exclusively demo lock in all of df, my next lobby will be my 100th lobby on the spec, I just think I have a lot more to improve on
Yeah
But the 30 min queues into a lobby that is completely meaningless suck
I get it
lobsters?
Just queue healer
this factor of why I typically end up leaving before significant improvement because as I get higher the lobbies take longer to form
Granted rdru sucks
2200 in df was avg 30min queues with upwards of 45
i just logged onto teamfight tactics and enjoyed 1.5min queues all the way to d2 which is where i capped
honestly
and my understanding is that even chal games in league/tft are 15min queue only
find a team
even if they're worse than u
u get theopportunity to spam games
and iterate
I have issues socially making friends
they jsut have to be likeminded
one of my good friends (gladiator priest so better than me) has been looking to queue for this entire expac
but i just get social anxiety issues when we look for a third
or feel embarrassed if i throw
ur kinda cutting off all avenues for u to meaningfully improve efficiently imma be real

(:
the shuffle queue times as dps ain't going away
u got a multi glad healer
just queue up
idk if he's multi and if he is it's like 2 but he's def better than me
even if it's piss alts and ur LFGing rotating a third
that's still more games than shuffle
if u actually want to iterate
yeah my biggest struggle in 'arena' has been social networking as my biggest barrier, i think, just hard for me
which is why i gravitated to blitz and shuffle on their release
yeah I mean I am not sure shuffle healing looks fun, is all, maybe on hpal it looks fun
but rdru shuffle doesn't look fun at all i can't lie
yeah i mean that may be, but it 'looks' fun
disgusting spec
Boo hoo
u dont mean that

we hit the heights of 2v2 on my destro lock together
YOu never asked again tho
I mean
I dont invite anyone for 2s
It's your bracket, not mine
I think the learning curve involved to get me from 'alt resto who does keys at 2.8-3k io' to 'having fun in shuffle' is insanely high,
that said, the insta queue might facilitate that happening pretty quickly
not sure.
there's a benefit to infinity queues
me last night when lakes farmed me into two 2-4s in shuffle to get her 1800
noway u got fiarmed by lake
shes perma in greens
How can he be online
IF HE PRESSED PLAY BUTTON
Banned?
I know david is not talking about countries lacking access to internet (and other necessities)
Idiot you only message me to flame my house
ok tbf ur names suck cock its real
Because you went to brazil
this was my 2 days lasting project
of ret puludin
shotting lazers planting flags flapping away its fucking fun

death by fat bird
i played ret for like 2hours and decided that spec is made for glueaters
i could not
she wasn't in greens on her pala i think,
ralph wiggum the expac
are u sure it was lake
theres a lakerz
thats not lake

but yes i did i'm in this image and i don't like it etc etc etc

ithought he was eu until like this week
Maybe cuz you talk to zechey so much
he said he was na
You rly give him the time of day
(this is a situation where last round spriest didn't disperse and disc didn't swap and he died in opener btw, so a 3-3 went to a 2-4)
no i just have degen hours unfort
ah unsure, could be mistaking them i only know one who posts here
excellent
You want ban for wintrade
face is the master
i fortunately have climbed back up a bit and am pushing to get into 2300 again
@clear pulsar real ?
me last night on god
500 dmg feral master
yes
whats that mean
Hes poor
Real
And emancipated
OH HELL NAH
It's me
it's goated
ngl ur title
emancipor is the name of a character from a book,
u had a legendary run for sure
was it last ssn
or the one before
my new rogue is "weeb unparalleled" but its false advertising cause fuji is a bigger weeb

fuji did u see my updated house
did u uncuk ur house
yeah

Q it up @halcyon siren I'll see you in undermine arena
I think I'm queueing blitz
Pc has probably been turned off
pzl and i queued ele disc for 2 hours
what a DOGSHIT COMP bro
like man, i wish i knew what to do, this ret just went 5-1 and in the game we lost when he was on my team the shaman just didn't link, so my 2-4 game where a mans is in here rolling everybody is a 1-5 
i cri every tim
we got instapop after tho and it actually got accepted so we're rising
This is not conducive to pushing past 2300
Did you record this?
You didnt lose 1 round cuz rsham misjudged cooldowns, you lost 5 rounds dawg
yeah I get that, thoughts on it are: every round vs the ret felt unwinnble because I think he was vastly gapping everybody in the lobby including me, and while I am certain there is something that a better player could do to win any of the 4 against him, I do not have that knowledge.
So I am disappointed that we scored 1 loss with him on my team, and that loss was certainly because the rsham was saving link for next lobby. That's all.
Shaddap we thrived
thrived (sweat our asses off every game vs mouth breathing fotmers)
No, I can't record it. My PC is on its last legs,
sadly.
How old/bad are we talking? Lots of hardware has had encoding-specific blocks/cores/whatever for over a decade atp
legion
also getting clamped really badly by ram at this point, I'll have it cap ram and start to write to my harddrive
which sometimes loses me rounds lowkey because it grinds my game into non-responsive
but that's the way she goes
I can't have anything but discord and the game open, if I open chrome it's liable to be worse etc
take care of ur things friends they will fail u if u do not (:
If you have an intel CPU that doesnt have f in its name, you should be able to record/stream with minimal impact question mark, tho maybe not the highest quality of all time. Look up quicksync.
Or an nvidia gpu newer than a RTX1650. Idk about others, and AMD is definitely a newer feature.
If RAM is the issue, tough luck, prices are going up too. Consider going linux, mayhaps, big gains over windows. Smile.
Use firefox
Onlyforgenius
If you cant run wow youre cooked
I think play on low res
Only genius
youknow, maybe I am plateaued tbh.
can't be washed when you were never good king
shuffle is a smooth experience compared to blitz
eh
my experience is not feeling smooth
i am 3x 3-3 lobbies in a row praying for a single scrap of fucking dopamine at least in blitz i can exult or despair there is no ties
getting lots of lumber tho so that's good
but in shuffle you can mostly just blame yourself, a lot less tilting than blitz where youre at the mercy of rng
Judging by your whining when you play shuffle vs blitz, I think both are the same
i think blitz is a lot less rng than people seem to think tbh
same guys at the top season after season and they literally effortlessly influence games in any game below 3k mmr
on any class they play
i also think because there's more people in the game you are less likely to have truly 'bad' matches in terms of classes ei affliction warlock queueing into ret/dh/war in shuffle
where his 'best' lobby is when he is paired with war but he's paired into dh ret when he is with war lol
I dunno
they just queue a shit ton and theyre just good enough to make the queues a bit more in their favor
ya every single season on every character
that omni guy is higher rated than 95percent of players on his alt hunter and is r1 on his arms warrior both season and will get it this season, bigdam is r1 on 10 shamans, these guys aren't getting into the game and not influencing it
and they're on dogshit classes
it's not true rng man
cant know if they duo q too
i mean you can lol you can watch omni degen hour shitqueue solo like 70percent of his games on his stream every single night
you can watch encyia every day soloqueue DH which while more influential than warrior is definitely not rogue
you can even watch dean sometimes soloqueue to r1 on multiple affliction warlocks literally every single season
winning every 1v1 vs every class and doing weird shit on affliction or just making every single teamfight unwinnable for the enemy team
anyway its still a lot more rng than shuffle
you can also watch encyia get an unwinnable lobby in shuffle where he is also r1, which is actually true rng
a lot rarer than shit teams
Yeah ofc, playing gives the rating more 'certainty'
there are really, really good people playing the game and disproving the idea of blitz rng every day
But they are winning
and u can watch them
You cant say they arent
if u want to stop watching forsen lmao
idk every time I feel like I am 'getting fucked' by matchup or lobby I just try to remember that there is virtually less than 10percent chance that somebody actually good is going to donothing and go 1-5 in the lobby i went 1-5 in
Yeah ofc, that is the point of a rating system, you shouldn't be put in games against people where you can guarantee you win everytime
And there is variance in matches cuz of how people play better and worse game-to-game, etc
I think you're just playing the wrong game if you're this vexed by it
Have you tried chess?
no
yeah but kinda boring
have u tried going outside and wondering at the magic and beauty and sanctity of all life and creation to the point of absolute gratitude towards being allowed to exist?
I just would like to see wtf someone like draciel does to just climb to 3.1k and 3.2k on so many ferals
That's the trade off isnt it
I havent seen the sun in 2 weeks, its been gray and dark and raining for the last 2 weeks
same homie there is beauty in the gray and dreary, the cold nights of the tundra, the quiet blanket of snow dotting our landscapes
That's true I love a big field with overcast sky
Reminds me of top 3 scenes in cinema history
Twilight baseball scene
surely me missing 1percent mastery from missing sockets is why i am going 3-3 4x in a row
it is not a skill issue
surely
wtf is this feral on omnis stream
just ran away like a monkey from him not even rooting or anything
and hes above 3k
sometimes u just get winners q
think it just has to deal with sometimes you lose in a row
I read on twitter that discord uses a lot of ram
Time to swap to teamspeak @halcyon siren
i don't think it's actually time for that my man

700 mb of ram
FOR NOTHING BTW
its almost 2x of spotify open playing music
ITS 900 now that iam typing
Because seething shore was extremely unhealthy and hated by the rated community
And also is lengthy when players are good and evenly matched
And often went to timer or was instantly given up when too far behind (like gilneas but longer)
They're fixing eots
Ab clone + flag in midnight
Kotmogu is fine idk what your issue with it is but I'm curious to hear
me too
Yeah like they will have 4x bases that cap and decap + flag in middle
So it will feel a lot better to play
Nah non blitz eots doesn't have decapping nodes
It will be like old eots with nodes that decap
the random bg eots without flags is the worst thing ever
Yeah it sucks
I think it will be good in midnight
Esp since you can only cross map in 3 areas
And it has high visibility
why dont they have a bg thats just team death match in a field
deephaul ravine kinda
that would almost be kinda cool
imagine like warsong gulch but its FFA like cod
first to 30 kills wins
Full gilneas games in higher mmr can end with like 9 kills on both sides
Total
Or less sometimes
I hate gilneas because if your teamfight sucks it's a next 9x out of ten
then you end up having a team that loses a base twice like me yesterday
You playing rn zechey
nah dead queues still
Can someone explain in what mathematical world it's possible for Feral to be on par with other classes in a 6 sec burst window? Or is dying in a stunlock not the thing Feral is scary for? If Feral only does big dam with all the bleeds up, but spends all of a 4 sec stun setting them up, isn't that throwing away a CC setup because big dam starts only after the CC? Or is Feral never supposed to threaten a kill until the target already has all the CC rolling and then a 4-6 sec CD lands where you hit nothing but bites and Maim (and Frenzy at most)?
incarn bruv
youre def not gunna kill anyone in a stun lock as feral without incarn
also you shouldnt be like stunning someone and THEN applying rip
rip rake mf shouldve all been up already
In short your strongest bleed is your first button out of stealth and rake stealthed is big dam on its own
But yes, between your incarn window your burst damage is just swarm and tigers fury buffed maim frenzy-bite-bite (if you have apex)
With bleeds already rolling
I see!
Are there any inherent strengths in having strong bleeds as a spec or is it just a plain drawback that you're prevented from exploding instantly compared to many other specs?
I mean yes,
But like also incarn feral opener is explosive
Implant + 2 set gives instant stack of vines, feral frenzy+ rip + incarn gives you a very high damage opener
At thr end of the day it's a very good melee spec in the Meta right now and saw extensive awc play
How did the mortal wounds nerf down to 16% affect it?
Whereas, for instance, fury warrior which has frontloaded damage , Or ww, really isn't doing so hot
I mean that nerf was ages ago
It's fine.
Interesting that frontloaded damage specs aren't doing that well 😮
Is it down to tuning then or the rest of the non-DPS kit?
I mean it's all tuning because every kit in the game is good
What do you think about Midnight where it seems Feral will lose some Incarn burst (no more Shred bleed stacks)?
Snupy seems optimistic,
On that topic, I'm positively surprised Snupy likes the pruning so much. Because PvE Ferals are in shambles. xD
As far as me? I think I will still play it and I anticipate if tuning is good feral will be good because it has a very strong 30second threat profile in tigers fury, maim, 30sec buffed frenzy
Into bite and potentially shred dumping into chomp at the end
But it's all tuning basically. Rn dh is giga damage and invincible, ret is giga danage and invincible,
Mm is giga damage and untouchable
It's all tuning
And Feral is paper D:
Their kits are the same
It's not paper play ww or fire mage or something that's actually paper
But yes, it's not invincible
How is Feral tougher than WW then? Simply because of well-timed bear?
Because it has a real defensive
Touch of karma is fake and feral has a usable while stunned 1min cd Dr in addition to survival instincts
But yes, well timed bear makes you tankier
And it's associated spells, low cd frenzied regen, ability to line freely because you removed snares while going bear etc
then he should try complaining instead of being optimistic >.>
he doesnt get paid if feral is bad
Yeah idk he's just 1 guy that does feral pvp content on beta
Not a lot of feral main pvp content unfort
As far as how it affects the game by design, you create more pressure on the enemy healer to do some amount of healing while you're controlled, for instance. Your overall damage suffers less from downtime, cc, defensice cds, generally short duration disruption.
Which is all mostly a thought exercise
If numbers good, spec good
Yeah it has some like actually real use case benefits in specific matchups
Good vs mage because you apply a lot of damage in 1 gcd when you cast bleed on him, good vs rogue because it's a physical dot that can't be cloaked, good vs dk because one of their durability tools is death strike which you can kite but also works best against big hits etc
But it's all really about tuning because like I said earlier, every kit in the game is already good and soecialized
And feral, as far as melees go, is in a good spot in the Meta
id advise against calling ppl slurs and telling them to off themselves
You don't have to do that
I have never called anybody a slur or even a name and I got silenced
I got silenced for largely saying things like 'I can't believe you thought xyz was the play' 'go next' and stuff like 'so in the future when somebody 10x better than you tells you to go next just sit in the gy like a good boy' or other blatantly untrue unhelpful uncreative trolling
I don't even hit ppl with uninstall
@livid wasp how is the shit goin
@viscid remnant dude my poe 2 league start soo doomed, both druid ascandancies so bad for werewolf xD
install MS powertoys, put on your favorite media content, always on top and hover it over your chat
Or idk show some self restraint in a video game and learn the lesson
That being abusive to people because they play bad isn't worth the momentary catharsis
True this is zechey we're talking about
nothing wrong with needing to do something different for it to work
every1 says about playing pathfinder or titan
hopw about u
idk on one thing pf is far away from druids tree, on the other hand u get the new scion shit
so u are a warrior actually
ye
u are taking all the speed from ranger area and then going for ur actual build
but idk need pob tbh
i mean you realize your'e being a dick here yeah?
some of you should really consider therapy. there's things that winning solo shuffle in world of warcraft simply cannot solve.
i mean i guess unironically yes the older you get the less you act like a petulant child when you don't win a game.
Yes absolutely, I learned my lesson from it. Just saying, one doesn't need to call anybody anything or say a slur to be rightfully actioned.
I called it what it was, unhelpful untrue uncreative trolling, I wouldn't have described if I thought it was positive, glad I got silenced because it snapped me out of it. System working as intended.
I play every other day and do my raids
I like it,
Get to try and roll my 25percent crit speed items
True
I havent
I put stream up, should have in game sounds now

holy shit
we have a rdruid
who is afking
because he was told to fc
what a fucking moron
he has gone afk before
like why is he playing and not banned
He is just done with ppl telling him what to do lol
no hes a fucking idiot
why is he still playing
this is the second game ive been with him and he has gone afk
like how the fuck is he still playing the game
both of those things can be true
hes a fucking idiot and is done with ppl telling him what to do
why isnt he banned
because afking in a game mode where you get to join for free is fine
no its not
oh then idk why he isnt banned
It is when you don’t care
but you likely wont get banned insta (and you prolly also shouldnt)
it was a super winnable game too but this guy is like that
Zechey takes it so serious he forgets ppl just play to have fun
like what the fuck is wrong with him
and that justifies afking a game ruining it for 7 other people?
cause someone makes a hint that you could fc?
like what
I’m 100% sure most ppl rather block zechey in game than do as he says
wtf are you even talking about
He dint want to FC that’s obvious
I’m sure ppl kept talking shit so
Same was as you get tilted at losing some ppl just get tilted at others talked shit
this is literally everything
that was said pre-match
actually i think this healer might be in the wrong now that i reread
because they didnt even make him do it
The one that called him for going afk before lol
he would be in the wrong regardless
well
just cause people expect them to FC doesnt mean theyyd have to do that
could just say im not doing that
Evoker sarcasm and u saying what you said made him afk lol
if it was me, i probably wouldnt have thrown the lobby based on that chat log




