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edgy basin
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Today patch removed it

halcyon siren
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oh good

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all for it honestly

edgy basin
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Netherwalk has been removed.

halcyon siren
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always seemed like an absolutely bloated cooldown for the class.

stray sigil
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idk they get

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will of necropolis

edgy basin
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Havoc still insane in beta

stray sigil
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baked into blur

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like

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that spec will never die still

edgy basin
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Heals a lot, double netherwalk was insane

halcyon siren
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when enemy dh plays dh: lit invincible

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when iplay dh: an npc being killed for a hunter doing world quests

halcyon siren
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@wintry jackal how win in shuffle Despair

random patrol
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now folt but "play mm"

grand mesa
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@velvet quest

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what is this

late wraith
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wdym it's a hallway

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go down it

velvet quest
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the destination is worth the reward, thats what theyve been saying

late wraith
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everyone's been saying this

grand mesa
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I see a love bed a chair off to the side angled to observe the bed and a mirror next to the bed so you can watch yourself presumably sleep

late wraith
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that's for his sleep watcher

halcyon siren
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sure wis i could queue up and work on my house

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am i correct fellas?

late wraith
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it's just a bug

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i'm sure they'll fix it

random patrol
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an attempt was made for a use for the head

stray sigil
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lmfao

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thats good

random patrol
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tried for a blood effect still dont have a good one trying to use venthyr anima for it

random patrol
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eh good enough

tiny oar
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SHUFFLE TIME

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ZERO TILT

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SNUPY MENTAL

lime light
viscid remnant
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chinese leak pog

lime light
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very cool or not

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it looks like "vision" kinda gameplay

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so fine in acts

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and then trashy

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unplayable for end game xD

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i hope iam wrong tho

grand mesa
tiny oar
grand mesa
safe heart
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i wish wow wouldnt fucking crash all the time

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cant open transmog window without crashing, cant leave char creation without crashing

rich crag
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Boomkin a lot of fun in world stuff anyway can beat anyone lol.

tiny oar
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easy mog

livid wasp
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I had to do just 1 shuffle to get daily shuffle win

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destro lock lobbies are kinda easy

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I hate how I was feeling like doing some lfg 3s

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but now I cant get in lfg

tiny oar
grand mesa
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I haven’t queued in week or two

safe heart
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threw his round, then beat him next round

tardy hare
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Healer diff

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The type of thing you type

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And you know

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All following games you will int with that person

safe heart
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our hunter died cuz he was hiding from me behind pillar, naturally we lose
he gives me 1000 questions marks and calls it healer diff, so i just no diff'd him as i had to

livid wasp
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I still dont know how the mine carts go on mines map

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which one caps first and shit

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and when

sand laurel
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(Midnight) DotC Feral shifting into bear and carrying over bear HP, armour and Ironfur -> that's like a big DIY wall in cat for vs physical damage, isn't it?

safe heart
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i mean sorta yes, but not really

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i guess you could keep spending globals on it but generally youre gunna pre bear stuns anyway and outside of that you need to be applying pressure

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but youre going to do better damage as ws most likely

sand laurel
safe heart
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vines go crazy

sand laurel
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or because of autoattack uptime required for DotC?

safe heart
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i dont think youre gunna proc ravage enough as dotc

sand laurel
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down to tuning or just the way the procs are designed regarding pvp?

safe heart
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in pve it already doesnt seem to proc a whole lot, its gunna proc even less in pvp

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im not an expert but it seems that no one in the top 50, not a single person, is playing dotc

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in all 3 brackets

sand laurel
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Man that's really disamehhing 😞 it would be cool if DotC would turn Feral into a hybrid Warrior in terms of toughness if you chose to frequently shift to bear and back to maintain huge defensive buffs

safe heart
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do you do pvp currently

sand laurel
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No, haven't since like S1 or S2 in TWW when I did a bit with Enh

safe heart
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if that buff lasts for less than 5 seconds , you would have to spend every like 3rd global shifting into bear form just to maintain bear form defensiveness, which bear form is kind of a joke in alot of ways

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and if ur spending every 3rd and 4th global going to bear and back to cat, youre losing like so many globals you couldve just done damage

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and ur losing vines so like your passive dot damage is way lower

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and this is ignoring the fact that like 80% of damage is magic

sand laurel
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so to make bear juggling viable (not like 100% lingering buff uptime), it would need to be so long that it would be broken?

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Do you Feral players actually feel a big difference with how squishy Feral is in PvP vs physical damage? It seems like a wild difference that it's basically naked Leather armour value compared to even Mail classes?

Or simply because most damage is magic anyway, there's little difference between DPS spec toughness unless it's like DH that is perma walled vs magic?

safe heart
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but basically yes

safe heart
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i havent pvp'd on feral since the beginning of this season but yeah i feel squishy to melee

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if i cant get away it hurts

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bear form helps but bear form is like a baby defensive that doesnt really work vs most things

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even like a surv hunter is doing mostly fire damage i think

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war/bm/mm/ww/outlaw/sub are the only things i can think of that are mostly physical damage

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besides feral ofc

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but regardless theres no way that bearweaving is gunna work unless the buff lasts absurdly long

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cuz itll cost you 2 globals PER activation

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and just guessing but id bet the buff lasts for 4 seconds tops

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6 seconds

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yeah i can only fit 2 globals without switching to bear form if i want 100% uptime

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fluid form gives you 1 extra global if you shred or rake to get back to catform instead of manually swapping

safe heart
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ppl really have alot of nerve to say "youre not healing" when ive literally done more healing than the other healer lol

livid wasp
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they dont mean it

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it's just a self-coping mechanism for their ego

safe heart
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its also really brave to assume im not just gunna prove him right the next round lol

grand mesa
halcyon siren
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Ya even when I think a healer is obv going 0-6 I don't say anything

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So at least they try

safe heart
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yeah if someone says anything unconstructive to me im not trying

halcyon siren
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Would u throw if somebody asked you to dispel

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Lol

safe heart
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would really depend on how they asked

halcyon siren
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'Can you dispel hoj or fear on my cds'

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He crashed out, linked details dispels and sat in room

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Was kind of based honestly

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(He was doomed to 0-6 anyways but I respect somebody taking a stance)

safe heart
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i mean yeah thats a good idea, check details and see if he actually wasnt dispelling first

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cuz like this guy says "no heals" but im outhealing the other healer

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and i know that hps vs hps isnt the whole story

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but obviously i wouldnt be healing more than the other healer if i was just trolling you

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so im obviously TRYING to heal you atleast

halcyon siren
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I don't really care about overall dispels I care about sitting an uncovered hoj or fear while he's in range and out of cc

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Smiles

safe heart
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i probably wouldnt throw if you asked me just like that tho

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so that guy is unhinged

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whiat is this

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well i got 2200 done so gunna log off

halcyon siren
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I can't get 2300

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Just keep dropping

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Sucks to suck

safe heart
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also i didnt realize till this last lobby
my keybind for para arena 1 wasnt working and i had no idea why
turns out they rebinded shift z to some fucking stupid housing keybind

sand laurel
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Sorry, creating confusion, I'm talking about Midnight

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I know you were referring to the current season

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or experience so far

safe heart
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well youre kinda proving my point

sand laurel
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Yes, seems to be getting worse that way

safe heart
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basically dotc is tankier sure but youre not gaining enough tankiness that it warrants losing vines

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and the bear weaving absolutely wont work

sand laurel
# safe heart cuz itll cost you 2 globals PER activation

You could totally reduce the globals... to 1. By shifting with off-GCD abilities. Tiger's Fury is one that gets you back into cat off the GCD. I don't remember if Dash and SR are on their own GCD. With Fluid Form you can shift back into Cat without costing a GCD or needing TF. Mangle for bear sucks though, I wish it was Ironfur too.

sand laurel
wintry jackal
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just keep spamming and trying to pre bear, line up stun on ff

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if u have any vods i will watch and see if i notice anything

safe heart
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so assuming you use one of the buttons that auto shifts you every time, youll be able to do 3 globals max

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this is assuming 100%, no interruptions etc

clear pulsar
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They also spent 2 patches on TWW actively curbing the off-role shapeshifting of DOTC

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Especially for feral

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So like, don't get your hopes up bro that's just not the scope of what they want hero talents to do

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It's more flavor than actionable gameplay warping stuff

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DOTC sucks for pvp anyways

clear pulsar
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Meet me at the top man

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Discordful Gladiator

stray sigil
edgy basin
livid wasp
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you have 331k messages here

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I have 33k

viscid remnant
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🤯

livid wasp
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you have 152k

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nerd

viscid remnant
livid wasp
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where do you see those

grand mesa
clear pulsar
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That's not you

grand mesa
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Oh it’s me

clear pulsar
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Are you botting

grand mesa
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no I yap a lot

clear pulsar
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That's insane you're 20x the yapper that I am

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I never imagined

grand mesa
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ehehe

livid wasp
grand mesa
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Lmao

clear pulsar
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'-'

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Rsham traitors

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It's toast

grand mesa
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Conspiring about watery things

halcyon siren
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how do I access this on mobile

grand mesa
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Go to ur profile

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I had to update discord

surreal heron
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flag on the top right on desktop, reload client if it doesn't show

halcyon siren
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I fear my settings aren't conducive to seeing it

viscid remnant
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17hr on voice

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lul

halcyon siren
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my emoji stats are funny to me tbh

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all 5 or doomer emojis

halcyon siren
viscid remnant
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i had like 1.6k

clear pulsar
halcyon siren
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with my sidekick

safe heart
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I had 57

sand laurel
clear pulsar
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No what they have is what I'm saying

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The armor permanence is not for feral to bearweave

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The numbers on it make it a bad idea to just go thru that loop on cd as part of your rotation

grand mesa
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Face u ready for midnight

clear pulsar
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Every week I find another reason to stop playing this game

safe heart
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My frames already look like that

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What's the big deal

carmine marsh
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For moonkin in blitz, should I spam star fall or just refresh when it’s near end

random patrol
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that moment when your trying to test an addon but it requires a very specific conditon to test(ie a whisper from a person that isnt on friendlist or guild)

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rough

halcyon siren
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there's a weakaura for it

clear pulsar
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Gotta pay attention that you'll have astral power to starsurge after the dryad goes away tho

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The window is pretty short so dont dump all asp

viscid remnant
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Mods removethis orange name

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Doesnt even play wow

livid wasp
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nice how queues go down to 8-10 min at 2-3 am

halcyon siren
vestal citrus
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post emojis

livid wasp
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guess im the only one who had some setting off and couldnt get the checkpoint

halcyon siren
tardy hare
livid wasp
livid wasp
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why even wake up before 9pm

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no queues

tiny oar
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I get home and play some hpal today

viscid remnant
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🤯

tiny oar
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the mog is cute I want it

halcyon siren
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Link the mog please lake,

tiny oar
viscid remnant
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🔥

halcyon siren
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Too bad you gotta be a paladin to wear it

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Legs are cool

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Who won the lottery and got the best pvp set this season lake

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And who got the worst

tiny oar
clear pulsar
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This season it's paladin by a lot

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DK is rly cool too yeah, pvp color
Monk's is pretty cool, if a bit simpler than the others
Priest and Warlock also nice

tiny oar
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I like priest too yea ill get that 1 after hpal probs

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maybe shaman too although I think all shaman models are kinda shit for showing off mog

tiny oar
tropic grove
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The actual set doesn't look great but the worst part is the colours they decided to slap onto it

livid wasp
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is it possible to join a friends friends house somehow

clear pulsar
halcyon siren
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Priest is my big winner, don't hate druid, dk (though I like the pves more), like monk, dh,

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Mage is pretty good

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Biggest miss is evoker for me

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And hunter ig

tropic grove
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Biggest win is DH imo, its like the perfect shade of red

clear pulsar
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Brother I dont know the color scheme layout for each of the recolors by heart

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Cheers tho

rugged heath
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priest/dh

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warrior without the helm is ok too

safe heart
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I don't use helms on any class

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I'll use the face masks and crowns but not a full helmet

tropic grove
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Any leather wearer has a default cursed vision of sargeras

velvet quest
clear pulsar
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I visited your house it was very mayo

velvet quest
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I’m close to housing level 5 and then I can redo it with the extra room budget

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I can’t edit my house currently cause I only have 1 real room which means nothing can be moved and extended

viscid remnant
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how much gold did you spend

velvet quest
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Barely any I’ve just been going to vendors and buying any +10 xp items

lime light
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@viscid remnant thoughts on pou2

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big vision gameplay

viscid remnant
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not sure

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ididnt really watch the reveal tbh

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was watching cs major

livid wasp
velvet quest
safe heart
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You guys ever be sitting in a meeting and accidently press brutal slash instead of raising your hand to speak

sand laurel
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Only if someone hasn't presented enough Clarity.

livid wasp
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I am an unemployed loser what is a meeting

safe heart
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Fake work to justify paying corporate people

tardy hare
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To be honest

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99,999% of buttons i press during meeting

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Are not raise hand

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Mostly rotational abilities

safe heart
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I like to use the raise hand button and when they get to me I just say "cap" then mute again

livid wasp
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51 min blitz wait time friday prime time

halcyon siren
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Mmr dropped too low or

livid wasp
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should be like 2.9k

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it popped already but someone keeps declining

halcyon siren
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Nightmare

viscid remnant
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15dollar a month videogame

livid wasp
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I cant freaking win

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so annoying

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why do I get some random team that has no idea where they should go

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only warrior and I go up and the warrior just runs straight to quarry lets two people come to farm

edgy basin
random patrol
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that absorb looks so bad

velvet quest
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Glow stone and stained glass, if you wanna copy that in Minecraft

livid wasp
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freaking 2.4k mmr shuffle again

tiny oar
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6 0 inc

livid wasp
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4-2 good enough

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I swear ele is way too tanky

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some damn arms warrior is a better target

livid wasp
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why do I get in a full melee lobby against full ranged lobby in kotmogu

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my team has 4 dks probably the worst possible class for that bg

grand mesa
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@stray sigil true?

stray sigil
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buff ww

livid wasp
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nerf grounding totem

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its so boring

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why does it absorb multiple times

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im too lazy to click and moonfire it

grand mesa
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grounding totem dies to so much random shit

livid wasp
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I just spam cast cyclone

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waiting for someone to destroy it

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but sometimes nobody does

grand mesa
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It’s fine

random patrol
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more fun when its 2 shamans in the lobby

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see a grounding I just start dotting

livid wasp
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my houses entrance keeps moving itself

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reseting

random patrol
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70ish mill dollar company texture

livid wasp
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are you guys on public neighborhoods or have you joined some tryhard one

random patrol
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guild neigborhood on my horde I have the graveyard

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were an all druid guild but I got mostly coffins

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prob like maxed out on them

livid wasp
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I have a guildie who has the graveyard and he made a damn church

safe heart
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Buff mw

random patrol
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the psuedo crypt isnt to bad though

livid wasp
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yeah its pretty cool

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photos dont do it justice

random patrol
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might have to steal that but as a facade going to eat up the entire yard budget though if it's larger

random patrol
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hey tech a pvp hotfix...................

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f

safe heart
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time to queue 1 shuffle and get back to mythicals

tiny oar
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i 5-0ed my first hpal lobby and then got wiped on the floor in the next two 2200 mmr lobbies

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very sick will queue more when i get home

safe heart
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i went 4-2

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good enuf

grand mesa
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BUIFF RSHAM

random patrol
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best druid animations are male nightelf

safe heart
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idk how i do like 0 dam in pve on feral

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monk was 717 ilvl, ret was 728 and im 711

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was a halls

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im 500 dps feral, its over

halcyon siren
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bud

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i did a key onebutton wildstalker at like 708 and did 4.4m i think u might need to go back to the drawing board

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u might be overthinking things

stray sigil
halcyon siren
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no you can@ puzzle too

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he also deserves to be alerted

safe heart
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im playing dotc

halcyon siren
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yes although honestly just sub5m overall at 711 isn'treally that bad

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like it's not good

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but it's not really that dire

stray sigil
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ww being #1 is really dire

halcyon siren
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over the 728 ret yes

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but i think ww doing 7.5 on 717 isn't like that audacious

stray sigil
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its pretty low but still

halcyon siren
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but ya 708 with bad trinkets will get you 4.7

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as feral

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it's whatever

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not saying it's not also a skill issue but

clear pulsar
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Skill issue flaming

safe heart
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im really embarassed honestly

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i have so many hours on feral

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actually seeking help lmao

halcyon siren
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log it and ping drufearr or zimbita in the feral cahnnel

safe heart
halcyon siren
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they will look at your logs and actually help you

safe heart
halcyon siren
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i mean

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you oprobavly have a logged key

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wcl yourself

clear pulsar
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3 details windows is a sign of mental decay

halcyon siren
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and look lol

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correct

safe heart
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damage healing interrupts deaths

stray sigil
safe heart
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5m overall at 711 is definitely me doing something horribly wrong

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there aint no way feral is doing damage like this rn

clear pulsar
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Show damage breakdown at least

stray sigil
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just blame it on the priest not pi'ing u

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works for me everytime

safe heart
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nah im playing really bad and ill own it, i want to improve it

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what is the addon that logs this shit

clear pulsar
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/combatlog

stray sigil
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dont do it enji

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hes trying to ddos u

safe heart
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i have that enabled

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but wcl says theres no log

clear pulsar
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Right so

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Logging is a toggle

vestal citrus
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when do u burst bro

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surely ur just pressing at shit times

clear pulsar
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You type /combatlog before the dungeon and it starts logging, then you type /combatlog after the dungeon ends and it stops logging

safe heart
vestal citrus
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what does dmg on boss look like

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compared to trash

safe heart
safe heart
clear pulsar
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Ngl to you

vestal citrus
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what abt comparitive to others

clear pulsar
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I think I can beat you

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If I dont have to heal

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As resto

clear pulsar
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Idk what I got that does it

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MRT, do you have that?

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Method Raid Tools

safe heart
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yeah like im low ilvl but not low enough to be doing dps like this

stray sigil
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is it still convoke for furreal

safe heart
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im playing convoke yea

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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The breakdown looks normal-ish, probably some level of not using cds well / not fishing for ravage during berserk well / not using enough apex procs

vestal citrus
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ya i woulda just assumed not pressing cds on trash well but idk

clear pulsar
vestal citrus
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feel like in floodgate u just rip into the packs do 20m+ dps

clear pulsar
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And it's mainly for padding

vestal citrus
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bosses w/e

safe heart
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i mean i basically press zerk convoke any time its up and ill be able to hit stuff the entire duration of it

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sometimes i do that and theres like 5 mobs

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so maybe its that idk

clear pulsar
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Some big Priory keys and maybe HOA

stray sigil
safe heart
stray sigil
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is dungeon slice

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sims any decent for furreal

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@clear pulsar

clear pulsar
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Actually

stray sigil
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try a dungeon slice sim instead of patchwerk

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see what u get

clear pulsar
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Lots of dungeons in the highest logs

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Are incarn

stray sigil
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obviously will never get ur sim number

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cuz u are not a computer

clear pulsar
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That's not a being a computer matter

stray sigil
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i mean no ping on computer no mistakes

clear pulsar
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Route, dungeon level, etc

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You can easily do more dps than dungeonslice sim

stray sigil
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who cares im saying for dungeon slice not for a specific dungeon route

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u dumb pig

clear pulsar
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DS is super conservative with pulls

stray sigil
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u think he does 18s

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where that matters

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u dumb fucking pig

safe heart
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that was a 12

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12 fg

stray sigil
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theres no shot u sim a route in 12s

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just do duyngeon slice

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w.e

safe heart
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trying it now

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lol

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yeah thats useless

stray sigil
halcyon siren
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dslice is not wrong

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it's up to date for feral

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so

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you're not really that far off you might have dogshit trinkets

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and low ilvl

stray sigil
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face said its conservative

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@clear pulsar how much is conservative

safe heart
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ive got myth bag and signet

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those arent terrible

stray sigil
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is myth bag a good trinket lol.

halcyon siren
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when he says it's conservative he means it thinks you're pulling a regular ass pull

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and yes, if you're saying ticking sack of terror

safe heart
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im pretty sure ive gotten 6-8m before also

halcyon siren
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it is, in fact, terrible

stray sigil
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ye but i mean

safe heart
stray sigil
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comp also matters

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buffs

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etc

halcyon siren
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replace with hero pacemaker

safe heart
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i just went by the sim

halcyon siren
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okay then it's fine

stray sigil
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surely he did enough m+ for a myth track pacemaker

safe heart
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oh i actually have a myth pacemaker lol

stray sigil
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or u do some heroic raid

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and get some trinkets

safe heart
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i just found it in bags

halcyon siren
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use myth pace for sure

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over sack

stray sigil
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sim it with that one instead

halcyon siren
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myth pace is actually a good trinket

safe heart
stray sigil
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myth pace is a slighly weaker antenna

halcyon siren
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is your weapon myth

stray sigil
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its good

safe heart
halcyon siren
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myth pace is as good as antenna with like 70percent balls

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(so it's actually very good)

stray sigil
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i wonder if netherprism and shit good for feral

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or forge

halcyon siren
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forge is bis

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netherprism bis in keys

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if you don't die

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forge antenna is the bog standard bis

safe heart
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lemme sim the pacemaker again

stray sigil
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hc prism was like +200k dps over a myth track dps trinket for me

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if u can just do

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a aotc buy run

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for like idk how much it is

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prob just worth doing

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and buy trinket

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with the dinar

safe heart
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this is all gear though

stray sigil
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gear does infact matter

safe heart
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i think maybe im like not proccing ravage enough or something

halcyon siren
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alert: there weas a crosskill in shuffle and i just went 2-3 because of it

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i AM going to kms

stray sigil
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at the bottom

safe heart
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i find it kinda awkward with rip falling off cuz i gotta ravage

stray sigil
#

just compare it kinda

safe heart
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so like im throwing 2cb pw's just to keep it going

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so i can ravage

halcyon siren
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don't

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just ravage and build for pw

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again ask feral channel tho

safe heart
#

okay yeah pacemaker simmed alittle higher than bag

halcyon siren
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they will know for sure

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pw falling off i think is a krill issue but it might be fine idk

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never seen that complaint

safe heart
#

i mean ravage is random

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outside of berserk

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and if ravage is my giga top prio

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it gets me behind on pw

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so usually ill like, go for ravage and just quickly pw with like 2 cbs just so rip stays up

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assuming my pw is low and i have ravage proc

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so i have to choose

stray sigil
#

prob better to use proc no ?

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incase u munch another proc sitting on it ?

safe heart
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thats what i assume

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and lke

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im not "losing" rip damage with low cb pw

halcyon siren
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doomed bobble whoever that is says build to 5cp rip

safe heart
#

but its just kinda awkward, i assume im prio'ing ravage above anything

halcyon siren
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and send pw

stray sigil
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that sounds

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kinda wrong

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but maybe im just fried

halcyon siren
#

ya i was hoping a

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more powerful, knowledgable man

safe heart
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i mean in my xp, it feels like ravage barely ever fucking procs

halcyon siren
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would respond

stray sigil
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is ravage a fixed ppm proc?

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cuz if its not

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thats just not real

halcyon siren
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ravage lasts for 30sec and has a low proc rate

stray sigil
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can u proc ravage back to back ?

halcyon siren
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only in zerk realistically

stray sigil
#

but it could happen

safe heart
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in zerk you can "force" it

stray sigil
#

idk that seems wrong

safe heart
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yeah i think you could technicaly do it

stray sigil
#

@clear pulsar chime in brother

clear pulsar
safe heart
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like psybear said you could munch a proc if you dont spend asap but i swear it barely procs

stray sigil
#

can u proc it every other global then

clear pulsar
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It does have some level of consistent cadence

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In berserk yeah

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Cuz it's a % chance for each hit of brutal slash

halcyon siren
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in berserky uo proc it with brutal slash

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back to back

clear pulsar
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So you can proc one easily

safe heart
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in berserk i get 3 or 4 ravages guaranteed almost

stray sigil
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wouldnt u still ravage prio over a pw falling rip

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incase it does happen?

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however unrealistic that is

halcyon siren
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i don't think so

safe heart
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i may be fucking up my berserk window because of ravage

halcyon siren
#

i really, really doubt it

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in zerk maybe

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but outside of zerk i can't see it

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and doomed bobble seems to think you would just hold ravage because the buff is 30sec

clear pulsar
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Idk I dont play DOTC

halcyon siren
#

ya same

clear pulsar
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I hate the RNG

stray sigil
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just seems wrong on fundamental lvl

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of how u treat procs

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usually

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but maybe idk

safe heart
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my brain wants me to spend the proc asap

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but i also hate to let rips fall off

stray sigil
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like if u have 2 cp

halcyon siren
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i just can't see it being correct to 2p pw

stray sigil
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and u have to build it

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to 5

halcyon siren
#

ever

stray sigil
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assume no crit

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its 3 globals ?

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is there no chance u actually get another proc in 3 globals ?

safe heart
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2cb pw gives you an 8 second rip or whatever

stray sigil
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ye but the guy says

safe heart
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gives you time

stray sigil
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always do 5p

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is my point in this

halcyon siren
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it's 3 globals no crit correct

clear pulsar
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If you dont drop Rips

stray sigil
#

if u have to build it to 5

clear pulsar
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You are swimming in Apex procs anyways

stray sigil
#

ok but what about my scenario

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my brozer

safe heart
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yeah so like keeping rip up is big

clear pulsar
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And you wont no-crit in AOE either

stray sigil
#

ok fine

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its 2 globals

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is there actually 0 chance u get a proc in 2 globals

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never munch any procs?

halcyon siren
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i mean would it matter even if you did? my thoughts are no

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it seems so rare

clear pulsar
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There's a chance I suppose. But yeah I think you prio PW sounds right.

halcyon siren
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not wroth adjusting gameplay over

stray sigil
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doesnt matter if chance is small

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kinda works like that for a lot of procs where uwanna press so u dont munch

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like sck for monk

halcyon siren
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i mean this is not a normally proc to be fair,

stray sigil
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u wanna press at 2 asap

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so u dont proc a 3rd one

halcyon siren
#

and rip is just the whole spec rn

stray sigil
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and u have 2 stacks already

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no matter if fof or rsk is up

clear pulsar
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Yeah but the proc rate for SCK is way higher

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That matters

safe heart
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so this is 5m overall
i guess its like, should my rip have done more or should my ravage have done more, cuz that would answer that

halcyon siren
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i think the risk of munching ravage is so low and the loss of 2cp primal wrathing is tangible

stray sigil
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whats the ppm on ravage

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is like 1. something iirc on sck

halcyon siren
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my guy 73percent rip uptime?

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what

clear pulsar
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That wouldnt really 'answer it' every dungeon has a different breakdown

halcyon siren
#

my brother there is zero chance your rip uptime should be 73percent

safe heart
clear pulsar
halcyon siren
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it should be 90plus to account for the 2-3 gcds you don't have pw up at the start of the pack if you didn't hold cp

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93-96

clear pulsar
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You have an idea of what you're doing but I dont trust anyone

safe heart
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all i can say is in my mind, i was following the logic of "ravage is more important than getting a 5cb pw out right now and ill 2cb pw to get it rolling again"

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but i got the addon

halcyon siren
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i mean even without a log you can look at some logged 12s from ferals and see their uptimes for rip, or look at keys from the top and see their rip uptimes

safe heart
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and ill run another and see if it works

stray sigil
halcyon siren
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currenntly in utter despair rn missed shuffle pop after going 2-3

safe heart
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but his ravage is 2

halcyon siren
#

that is not normally

safe heart
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he did 8.8m overall

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this guy is ranked a little lower, but his looks the same

clear pulsar
#

Stop comparing

tiny oar
clear pulsar
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Numbers on different sources

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Logs and details are based on different time measures

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54% is Tear also, in that log, not Rip

halcyon siren
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okay i may be wrong and wcl is looking at rip uptime weird, just looked at the top parse, 68percent, we can speculate all we want but until you log a key and get it examined

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it's all in the wind

clear pulsar
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Rip is 78.23%, and that's with the entire downtime out of combat considered

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This is all very different than how details accounts for things

safe heart
safe heart
halcyon siren
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okay enough about ENJI can we lament how i missed 1 shuffle queue and then it popped on the requeue and it wasn't accepted and now it didn't repop

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after i went 2-3?

safe heart
#

i got autocombatlogger, i assume this will do the thing

halcyon siren
#

i think it's literally

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warcraft logs the addon

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is it not?

safe heart
#

not coming up in curseforge

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alright we got a dawnbreaker 12

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lets try

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i got the warcraft logs standalone program

halcyon siren
#

does apex send with ravage btw?

safe heart
#

so maybe it uploaded my previous shit idk

safe heart
halcyon siren
#

so this should be a relatively rare occurance anyways?

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like what are the chances of you having ravage but not apex if you're keeping pw up realistically

safe heart
#

it doesnt seem to align for me often

halcyon siren
#

weird

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to be fair my gut tells me, on a basic level, that you being 2cp with pw falling off

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is overall a planning error btw

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you can refresh pw at like 5 seconds

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all conjecture tho so we see what the log says

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gl king

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33min in queue now

stray sigil
#

and that ssn made me quit feral

halcyon siren
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idk get an experts opinion but my gut tells me that is not it king

tiny oar
stray sigil
tiny oar
stray sigil
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300k dos wverygame (vs pets)

halcyon siren
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enji i think what is happening to you is you're holding TF

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it's weird and shitty and counterintuitive but sometimes you have to press TF like at the end of packs or even between packs right now

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because holding TF makes you not align with berserk

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and that can make you end up holding berserk

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i mean there's a lot you can improve on but that's good

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that catsavage log casted more rips and primal wrath than you did in a key that was 7min shorter, i think this is the hugest issue,

stray sigil
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the issue is playing furreal

halcyon siren
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i am not long for the feral world

viscid spruce
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for pvp boomie are we going EC?

halcyon siren
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because the issue is, indeed, playing furreal

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no

viscid spruce
#

kotg and try to line up cds?

halcyon siren
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well i shouldn't say no, in blitz, no

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in blitz you play kotg

viscid spruce
#

hmm, 3v3s

halcyon siren
viscid spruce
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ty

halcyon siren
#

i will report back

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it's also kotg in 3v3

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48/50 top players are kotg

viscid spruce
#

ty

halcyon siren
#

90sec double incarn kotg

safe heart
viscid spruce
#

ty ty val

halcyon siren
#

should be rareish that that happens

safe heart
#

havent really pve'd on feral since SL i think

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most of my keys this season on my druid have been resto/bear just filling vaults

halcyon siren
#

you just going for 12s or 3k or?

safe heart
#

as high as i can go

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im still mainly pushing mw

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but been itching to play some feral

halcyon siren
#

what's mw io

safe heart
#

like 3430 or something

halcyon siren
#

pog

safe heart
#

i want atleast 3500 on mw

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but ill keep climbing until season ends

halcyon siren
#

i wish i didn't like

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go out with a whimper as soon as turbo boost dropped tbh

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3.1 io i think as bear tank

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haven't been in a key in months

safe heart
#

theyre fun

halcyon siren
#

all my friends quit, just like

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soured it for me

safe heart
#

they get kinda scarce tho

#

my friends and wife also quit lol

halcyon siren
#

mfers took 1 look at midnight changes

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and they were OUT

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Now i am in the terminal shuffle stages of my season

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where i queue until i have a melt down and quit

safe heart
#

val ill heal your bear whenever

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big phys comp

halcyon siren
tiny oar
#

same same

#

wow and rs only games I rly care abt being good

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anything else im just giga casual

random patrol
#

aug guardian voidweaver go

halcyon siren
#

on god i'm about to crash out tbh, started strong with 5-1, then insanely long queues for a 2-4, 2-3, 3-3

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sucks to suck

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and every SECOND i am in queue i just think about how i could be playing teamfight tactics with a 1min queue at diamond3

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for 30misn of gameplay

livid wasp
#

wow pvp is the only one that means something though

#

who cares about any of riot games games

random patrol
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an attempt was made

halcyon siren
#

honestly my time playing tft, a game i like less, has made me aware that the gameplay, while important,

tiny oar
halcyon siren
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is lowkey not as important as number go up

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like i want to just play

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and see number go up or down

random patrol
#

ran out of budget really close though

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maybe when they increase budget/make smaller base buildings

halcyon siren
#

aere your platforms enlarged

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is that as big as they go

random patrol
#

yep

safe heart
#

rip up time in the 80s

random patrol
#

f it firetree

halcyon siren
#

still improvable

vestal citrus
#

come home from work wanna q some rener

#

can only get in 1-2 games of shuff before bed

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unless playing healer 2head

halcyon siren
#

yeah i also legit have no clue why you aren't 'locked' to a lobby when the queue pops for you,

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just had another game, declined, didn't get in the repop

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whyge

random patrol
#

guess Im a vampire now

halcyon siren
#

guys can we queue ferom the house yet

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lol

random patrol
#

@halcyon siren smol indie company

livid wasp
tiny oar
#

never change zechey I love u

livid wasp
#

league just ruins forsen streams

#

it's a cancer

lime light
#

werecat login @viscid remnant

tropic schooner
#

smh

lime light
#

@tropic schooner how are u doin

#

still wow?

tropic schooner
#

got baited to lvl on pve anniversary server

#

doing that + some mopping

#

and some league

lime light
#

ah thats nice

#

iam thinking about tbc a bit

#

but idk

tropic schooner
#

yea thats what we lvl for atm

#

some guys who had a sod guild and I played with before asked me and another friend to join

lime light
#

u gonna make a guild or something

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or someone from the group

tropic schooner
#

someone already did

stray sigil
#

yes…

#

zechey will follow eventually and also stop playing furry

livid wasp
#

never

late wraith
#

should all see the light and the truth

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🌝

#

🌟 💫 ✨ 🌜 🌞 🔥

velvet quest
#

A new born star burning out until it becomes a black hole

#

That’s the correct interpretation?

late wraith
#

a complete idiot clown having power over the cosmos is the most insanely good class fantasy and you all are playing pretend kitty cats.

velvet quest
#

Kitty cat is just pretend rogue

#

Which is why I play melee boomkin

lime light
#

@tropic schooner the china wotlk looks cool

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but impossible for us to get an acc

#

plus huge ping

viscid remnant
livid wasp
#

I hate blitz

astral rune
#

what happened?

livid wasp
#

I played blitz

#

this is so fucking stupid

#

our rdruid goes afk before the game is even 0-0

#

like what the fuck is this shit

#

what a fucking loser

#

I get an idiot team like that like what is this

halcyon siren
#

Based rdruid punishing dogshit team by the sounds of it.

livid wasp
#

nah just a moron

#

I hope he gets banned

digital cairn
#

the answer to this is probably "ur bad" but does anyone else feel like feral has stopped doing damage in arena recently? or do i just happen to be coming against versatility gods

livid wasp
#

idk feral is shit

#

temu rogue

digital cairn
#

ur right ill just reroll Warrior and zugzug

#

thanks

livid wasp
#

so freaking depressing

stray sigil
#

someone tell him warrior is much worse than feral

halcyon siren
edgy basin
halcyon siren
#

Idk the suggestion to play warrior in this meta goes kinda crazy I can't lie

stray sigil
#

fury also might just be one of the squishiest melee in game atm lol

#

doesnt matter that u can heal a bit every 2mins

stray sigil
edgy basin
#

Oh talking live derp, just keep playing feral till midnight lol

#

Then go BM hunter or fury warrior

grand mesa
#

Buff ele

#

Buff rsham

#

Buff grounding

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Make ascendance 1.5m 2 charges

#

Thank you

stray sigil
halcyon siren
#

Grounding is the most insane spell I am the most shocked that it has stood the test of time

#

Puzzle why is your discord tag femcel

#

What's the lore

livid wasp
#

I need to get another game to play

digital cairn
#

so whats the feral reroll reccomendations then guys n gals

stray sigil
#

cuz of elemental lens

random patrol
#

buff mm

grand mesa
edgy basin
#

Just BM lol

tiny oar
grand mesa
livid wasp
#

why cant they remove blitz

#

too depressing

tiny oar
random patrol
#

bm best ever just let the bots do stuff

#

they should bring back seperation anxiety

livid wasp
#

if I got r1 in bltiz it would make me happy to be alive

#

but I cant get it

#

I just keep getting shit teams

#

but guess its my fault and im the shit one

#

even though my team doesnt even have a rogue

#

and they just own us

#

and they kill feral like its paper

#

through bear and all defensives

#

fucking every time the same

#

complete dice roll

#

I have no idea how some ferals climb

#

what the fuck do they do so different

#

I dont get it

#

this is so freaking aids

#

like what the fuck am I supposed to do to make a difference

#

this game is the only thing I care about and I cant even get R1 in this stupid bracket

#

whats the point in living if you cant ever get what you want no matter how hard you try

halcyon siren
#

Mm if you want ranged

livid wasp
#

so stupid

#

im so fucking bored of losing

#

so unfair

halcyon siren
#

Lol

#

I swear it's a bit

edgy basin
#

Either that or he 15

livid wasp
#

try playing this yourself

#

show me how to get it

edgy basin
#

I’ll try for midnight granted as balance and probably not to R1 since real life is a thing and a man has to work

livid wasp
#

why cant I just get a 10 win streak like everyone seems to get all the time

edgy basin
#

If you are horde it can be explained 🤣🤣

livid wasp
#

im queuing on my ally

halcyon siren
#

what does horde have to do with it

livid wasp
#

I dont know he probably thinks im horde every game

halcyon siren
#

surely you do not think that shadowmeld is going to be the difference maker in a 12min game a significant amount of time nisashi

edgy basin
#

Was about to to say if he is horde he deserves it

livid wasp
#

like imagine that you only play this one game during your freetime

#

you dont really have any other hobbies

#

but you cant even get good enough at that game

#

to get r1

edgy basin
#

Alliance ftw

livid wasp
#

in a dead game

#

what the fuck is the point in living

edgy basin
#

If you only play during ur free day means you don’t play enough unless you don’t work or have no family

#

Makes sense getting r1 is not happening

livid wasp
#

I cant get a job my country is going to complete shit

#

second most unemployed eu country and falling

#

future looks bleak

#

I cant even get my R1

#

cant even get this small sparkle in my life

edgy basin
#

Switch to NA server

#

You might get r1 there

livid wasp
#

just gonna be the same shit

edgy basin
#

Then the problem is you….

livid wasp
#

someone could tell me what is it I am doing so wrong I am fucking up my blitz games

#

cause I have no idea

halcyon siren
#

what maps do you lose the most in

#

look in your stats and look at your wr for each bg

livid wasp
#

fucking every

halcyon siren
#

do you pve at all

#

like weird question but if you're bottom fragging damage it could be as simple as tightening your rotation and going teamfight more

livid wasp
#

I got to 3k

#

im not bottom fragging damage

halcyon siren
#

ya bud i know you got to 3k i know you're not a noob but many, many people could benefit from learnnig to pump more damage

#

esp aoe damage

edgy basin
#

Cyclone more

#

Nothing cyclone can’t solve

livid wasp
#

fucking absolutely useless team

#

cant aoe a single flag

#

so pissed off

#

losing at shit mmr

#

cause of useless teams

#

why does this shit have to happen to me

grand mesa
#

Never change zechey

edgy basin
livid wasp
#

2.7 piss mmr

#

im just fucking dropping cause of these teams

#

fucking 3-7 or something today

grand mesa
#

Mean reversion bro you’ll win streak back up eventually