need to track individual aura icons under unitframes
#pvp
grand mesa
edgy basin
It needs to show better what’s being used at the moment that’s true buffs/debuffs should be easy to spot but tracking CDs,DRs, etc really would just be the same
stray sigil
why is showing cds more important to you than drs
edgy basin
Having information of the things that are happening “now” should be super clear (if the pally used bubble I should be able to see not just the big ass bubble around him but also the icon somewhere) but at the same time sure as hell shouldn’t be able to know how long he has left on his hammer stun CD nor him know if I’ll have barkskin in 5s
edgy basin
I mean skill cds
Debuffs/buffs should be visible because it’s happening now, DRs is a consequence of doing a million ccs it shouldn’t be perfect min-maxed
stray sigil
Having information of the things that are happening “now” should be super clear ...
but bubble is a defensive just like skin
why is that different
edgy basin
It’s happening at the moment
stray sigil
uh
edgy basin
The moment the pally uses bubble it should be very clear not just because of visual but also an icon somewhere probably where the buffs/debuffs are
stray sigil
there is an icon
where the debuffs/buffs are htough
and theres a clear visual effect
edgy basin
But having something that also tells me how long is the cd on that bubble for next cast is too much
Yeah and that’s good
All that is happening “now”
Tracking DRs and CDs of skills is seeing the future for gods sakes lol
edgy basin
That’s one of the main problems with WoW PvP addons do everything
Arenas weren’t that bad
tiny oar
need to track individual aura icons under unitframes
easy for goats like me
edgy basin
The advantage addons gave to players was insane
stray sigil
now i dont like weakauras
thats a decent take
but bigdebuff omnibars is completely fine
halcyon siren
Vibes based pvp
edgy basin
It’s why I’m fine with things that are happening “now” to be shown way easier
edgy basin
Probably
safe heart
I hope they do
halcyon siren
So for instance before they let addons into awc
stray sigil
some ppl are fine at look at debuffs i knmow i dont have a problem with that
edgy basin
You also will see ppl that relied on addons die a lot
stray sigil
but thats the rare cases
edgy basin
Midnights duels actually look fun and organic lol
tiny oar
DUELS
edgy basin
You have to kinda guess a bit
stray sigil
i mean ill be honest
edgy basin
I mean arenas bugged
stray sigil
theres no need to track anything
edgy basin
But the pacing
stray sigil
for duels ever
stray sigil
if the ret bubbles in duel
what does it matter
if u tracxked it
hes not gonna press it twice
i dont get it
stray sigil
u dont have to guess about drs
edgy basin
It isnt always perfect
halcyon siren
I think anybody who does well right now addonless will be a cut above in midnight (these players are rare and usually below glad anyways)
edgy basin
I mean rogues can have some problems lol
grand mesa
blizz is adding DRs to base UI btw
halcyon siren
And yes the avg shuffler will be worse for a time
edgy basin
blizz is adding DRs to base UI btw
Yeah it’s kinda sad but I do hope they stay there
random patrol
they already added it on beta
stray sigil
And yes the avg shuffler will be worse for a time
some specs will kinda disapear
thats my take personally
edgy basin
CDs is too much
stray sigil
outside of the .1%
halcyon siren
Which specs
random patrol
they will prob add more stuff to as it goes
random patrol
they already are kind of hinting at more trackable stuff in the addon dev discord
stray sigil
will be worse in midnight
for the average player
and like
average player is below 1600
if ur above 18 ur like top 10% of pvpers
iirc
so yeah
edgy basin
At least in PvP it really shouldn’t track CDs ever and it would stay better for most ppl
Fights would truly be way more organic and riskier
grand mesa
they already are kind of hinting at more trackable stuff in the addon dev discor...
until u see a kick tracker being reimplemented in pve/keys i don't think the scope of the prune will change much
they don't want us to have perfect information
random patrol
@grand mesa they will prob implement a super buggy versions like beta 1 nameplates
edgy basin
so u like pvp nowadays
Ehhh I played season 1 of TWW as boomkin (so the omega hard way) lol
grand mesa
i really think on a design level they don't want kick tracker and omnicd
random patrol
watch it go into the floor
stray sigil
not sure id call boomy hard way personally
grand mesa
they just don't want people tracking it
stray sigil
boomies only die if u dont press clone
edgy basin
U died while cloning was sad
halcyon siren
i really think on a design level they don't want kick tracker and omnicd
I mean the game sucks without it, I have played for months on no addons and like it's lowkey like
Even though my cr plateau didn't drop
It's kind of less interesting
Idk
stray sigil
gonna be hot take cuz ppl didnt like sl
but i think the cd trading aspect and shit
was quite fun personally
halcyon siren
Eh
random patrol
people that think they will all of sudden get higher rating once addons are locked down well addons aren't the only reason your 1600 after 3 years though some people def will hurt with change
grand mesa
this hunter has ros going and is in trueshot. good luck seeing this in midnight
halcyon siren
I'm not big on cd trading
edgy basin
this hunter has ros going and is in trueshot. good luck seeing this in midnight
It’s why it should be cleared
halcyon siren
I like damage being high outside of cds
stray sigil
u can clear it though rn lol
edgy basin
But u sure as hell shouldn’t be able to see if his kick is off CD
grand mesa
but i think the cd trading aspect and shit
i like it
stray sigil
Feral, demo, dev the last 4 years
halcyon siren
Some affliction and warrior dabbling but only to like 1800 kn those guys
stray sigil
surprised u dont like a more cc based game as a feral player
but dev
is kinda in line with what u sayt
halcyon siren
I only did 1 season of dev
3button class very fun in small doses only
I mean I like a cc based game, I just like doing danage outside of cds too
edgy basin
I mean but you know what will come and when
halcyon siren
I ran it back on feral in wrath and cata classic and it just made me miss damage being high
Always
Vs incarn being my only real damage in live
edgy basin
Midnight looking good atm, just need warrior and DH healing reduced and it’s close to overall balance
Maybe warlocks shields are a bit too big atm but idk
halcyon siren
Idk how you can possibly feel that way when the game can't be tested outside of duels and no real tuning passes have been made
halcyon siren
I'm a born again ww monk
stray sigil
edgy basin
Idk how you can possibly feel that way when the game can't be tested outside of ...
I mean class vs class
random patrol
bm hunter reroll braindead time
edgy basin
Obv when there’s 3v3 it’s more complicated
halcyon siren
I mean have you seen what's happening to feral its literally so depressing
edgy basin
But if you take all classes atm they fairly fine overall
halcyon siren
Everything is an upgrade
edgy basin
Feral is depressing because warrior and DH are cracked
stray sigil
I mean have you seen what's happening to feral its literally so depressing
ye idk i havent played feral in like
5 years
halcyon siren
No feral is depressing because its 3 buttons man on beta
stray sigil
dont even keep up with changes anymore
edgy basin
No feral is depressing because its 3 buttons man on beta
I mean yes it’s simpler
stray sigil
i came back in s2 df and @grand mesa inted me in 2s vs thewy
and i shelved feral again
halcyon siren
Brutal slash, adapt swarm, thrash all removed
halcyon siren
It's less going on than wrath feral deadass
edgy basin
But hey boomkin still doing the same thing as ever lol
halcyon siren
Wrath feral had mangle and savage roar
edgy basin
At least feral got chomp 🤣🤣🤣
random patrol
boomkin gained a button somehow
edgy basin
Technically lost 1
random patrol
they have this wierd thing for changing eclipse every other expac
halcyon siren
Anyways the classes I'm looking at are sv and ww
stray sigil
Wrath feral had mangle and savage roar
sr in sl was a vibe
edgy basin
You used 2 casts to get into eclipse now you just use 1 lol
random patrol
it has to much uptime on it imo the design needs tweaking but currently druid dev is warlock intern number 3
halcyon siren
It's prob ww though because I don't trust sv to be tuned
edgy basin
it has to much uptime on it imo the design needs tweaking but currently druid de...
Yep
halcyon siren
And usually blizzard tries to make the 1 dps spec classes be okay
random patrol
just spam starfall run behind building in org profit
stray sigil
It's prob ww though because I don't trust sv to be tuned
isnt surv a 3 button spec
in midnight
halcyon siren
Nah
edgy basin
To be fair just give me a regrowth that actually heal as boomkin and idc if it’s same as TWW lol
halcyon siren
It's actually got a bit going on they readded tip of the spear (their version of combo strikes or whatever)
random patrol
lost renewal but got wierd neo heart of the wild that while decent isn't really heart of the wild
random patrol
let me use rejuv and wild growth without them taking me out of boomy form would be nice
halcyon siren
WILL WW BE FUN man,
edgy basin
WW will be fun just by the fact that you can go super saiyan lol
Those visuals look incredible
safe heart
And hopefully do enough dmg to kill ppl
it absolutely wont, im telling you bro
random patrol
currently and this is outside of arena though might be intended most pvp on beta is slow pace aka time for bfa stall arena come season 3 of midnight if it stays the same
good old damp
there are some outlier specs course no tuning cause again beta
edgy basin
it absolutely wont, im telling you bro
Let a bear dream
I’m really trying to see what can be fun to play as Druid so I don’t end up playing DH lol
safe heart
just play dh if you dont like druid bro its ok
edgy basin
I love Druid
safe heart
then why are you even considering playing dh
edgy basin
Just don’t know if I wanna spam same boomkin playstyle…..again
Idk if I ever wanna resto again (was my main spec way back) and feral idk have never truly liked it
So either see if bear can work for the lols (has to be DoTC for theme) or laser chicken again and hope it isn’t miserable
astral rune
edgy basin
I refuse, it will be DotC bear with surge,rake,main,HotW,rip, mangle into whatever bear can do combo or bust
edgy basin
With Valeera as our delve companion there’s no way in hell I’m not trying to do my best broll impression, I’m stealing that BE GF
edgy basin
Doing a 12 hour shift atm and it’s 2am mind going nuts
stray sigil
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/121880917579923458/1442361908391968820/le...
lake warrior
tiny oar
stray sigil
random patrol
it's almost Thanksgiving us time to cook a monstrosity
dh did 54 mill damage round 1 then left lobby
dear dh please dont q if your going to do that
last 2 lobbies of the night were unfinished
5 rounds one before that and the last one was a whole 1 round logged off cause that's a sign to get off
not even mad just don't want to q another 30 minutes to play 1 round cause dude is trolling
wanton ridge
What I find weird is the range icon doesnt seem to work for line of sight, which would be way more useful in pvp lol
at least it didnt when I tested it
grand mesa
It like works and doesn’t
lol
Oh line of sight no
I don’t think it’s meant to
I think it’s a secondary way to denote out of range
For whatever reason
wanton ridge
i been playing with default frames since I think BFA, doing decently high keys / CE / 2.4+ in pvp, i have unpopular opinions on raid frames :o
livid wasp
do addons stop working when housing comes or is it when we get prepatch
safe heart
addons stop working when the emp hits
wanton ridge
Yeah when prepatch (12.0) lands is when we get addons2.0
clear pulsar
The good old default frames*
*: with multiple addons to supplement
wanton ridge
not needed lol
grand mesa
I am a proud stock++ user
wanton ridge
arena will be interesting, havent checked how the arena frames / dr tracker etc look like, assuming they add that
grand mesa
Looks the same. Think the new Dr tracker is bugged
clear pulsar
@grand mesa I need the plug on beta addons dude
This shit is so ugly
And annoying to mess with, is there no / command to open up the cd manager settings
wanton ridge
And annoying to mess with, is there no / command to open up the cd manager setti...
there is, sec let me find
grand mesa
NephUI senseiresourcrbar cooldown manager tweakz Betterblizzframes
are the ones being used rn
Some mix and match of them
NephUI is the most comprehensive all in one rn
wanton ridge
Had to dig into the code in alpha to get that but if you add a macro with /run CooldownViewerSettings:ShowUIPanel(false) in your bars you can open it anytime without being annoyed
clear pulsar
Ok that's nice ty
wanton ridge
Since you dont use addons for frames
I use addons for arena frames, they look like party frames and not raid frames with default blizz ui, thats where I draw the line
clear pulsar
I use addons for arena frames, they look like party frames and not raid frames w...
They added raid-frame style arena frames in dragonflight
I've been using them i.e. no sarena or gladius
wanton ridge
today I learned
clear pulsar
Since 2024
wanton ridge
I'll try when I do another shuffle session, thanks friend
clear pulsar
I use diminish for dr tracker on them
It looks rly nice imo
And symmetrical with my raid frames
MOST important
wanton ridge
tbh I'm fucked when 12.0 comes, like I laugh at people who need addons for pve
but I can't do arena without gladiatorlosa lol
completely skill issue and im ashamed
clear pulsar
It's really useless
Not useless but it spazes out with the order of buffs, it's unusable rather
grand mesa
but I can't do arena without gladiatorlosa lol
Bro I know lmao
livid wasp
I always sucked at tracking cds of enemies and my teammates, I am glad it's not going to be an issue
sucked at tracking it on the weakauras I mean
safe heart
yeah but do you swallow at tracking cds of enemies and my teammates
wanton ridge
i remember when I started playing arenas in TBC I had to play with sound on, that was my way to see if I juked kick/pummel/spelllock/counterspell, they had distincts sound effects
"Get fucked warrior" after I juked my pre mass-dispel for his paladin's bubble, just to get mace stunned by stormherald on the real cast, fml
tardy hare
Always kind of knew when stuff was up based on internal clock
wanton ridge
Always kind of knew when stuff was up based on internal clock
yeah but you need to get that clock started, that was the first sound effect for me lol
animation was harder to track because of 15 fps gaming
viscid remnant
How tf did you swallow a clock
vaseline
random patrol
3 months to get it right minus 2 weeks of vacation
livid wasp
maybe im still unemployed who nose
a strategic sick leave on that monday and im good
im glad they release housing in advance
no real hurry with leveling
what new shit will there even be aside from class changes
livid wasp
it's just freaking funny
how they strategically place the "early access" on a friday
again
livid wasp
never heard of that
random patrol
@livid wasp triple layer cake with 3 dif pies in it
livid wasp
nice
safe heart
Would
livid wasp
wish we had something like thanksgiving too
good reason to overeat
twice in almost the same month
livid wasp
why is ret pala allowed to be so broken
fucking bop, bubble and loh
in one arena
like unkillable literally
silver current
silver current
i see a shitton of mm's these days
livid wasp
forbearance needs to be 1 minute
silver current
press trueshot, gg
stray sigil
forbearance needs to be 1 minute
just need to remove that garbage of being able to press bubble on forb
livid wasp
like so god damn stupid
silver current
cant wait for midnight, and play into havoc dh's with 2x blur and 2,5sec netherwalk on every blur press
livid wasp
I open ret
okay he bops
I cant attack him for 10 seconds
my inca is fucked
or no inca isnt over yet
I go back on him
I get him low
lay on hands
inca is gone now
then I have to kill him from low hp
while he has bubble
and the other teammate
silver current
NeXt InCaRn U wIn
livid wasp
so stupid
silver current
livid wasp
like the only time I beat rets in skirm is if they dont use all them 3
and its so easy to use them
velvet quest
Blizzard should tune around double dps skirms
Make it so if a ret uses lay in double dps skirms they get deserter debuff for 30 minutes so zechey cant queue into them anymore
livid wasp
they dont need to tune around it just make special rules for rets in skirms
theyre too broken there
and prots
viscid remnant
@stray sigil this unc taxes is not employed
ive never seen some1 send so many reels
viscid remnant
i legit cant even keep up
random patrol
good old mm 1 or 2 shottting everything
livid wasp
im proud of myself I did a shuffle and I didnt type anything even though it was a very tilting experience
livid wasp
its just so hard to play well
livid wasp
feral takes too high iq
safe heart
I bricked a bunch of keys and green parsed a heroic raid on mw
Had alittle fun but not really
native horizon
im proud of myself I did a shuffle and I didnt type anything even though it was ...
I had to Accept code of conduct yesterday again 
I usally dont type anything
But if u start new chars or low alts in General on low cr its always the bad one that start talking
Most of time i feel like a have to protect the ones that get blamed since the worst in the lobby blames everyone else
Idc if someone plays bad
For some better players i also make bad choices
I just hate if these ppl start blame innocent
Gets me everytime lol
livid wasp
doesnt it just come randomly
halcyon siren
Had a mw pipe up round 3 saying we were trolling him because he lost first 2 rounds, dude ended up going 1-5 because by some miracle I dragged him across the finish line for 1 round, but he was squacking the whole time
When u go 1-5 or 0-6 you have to know like deadass that it's you, surely
2-4 you could claim tough lobby, sure, but 0-6? Come on
Like if the strongest dps/healer in the lobby can't take you to even 1 or 2 wins surely you realize 'damn I'm actually just outmatched' esp at 2.X mmr
native horizon
doesnt it just come randomly
if u got some reports u have ti accept it again
native horizon
When u go 1-5 or 0-6 you have to know like deadass that it's you, surely
i think there are actually some games were someone could go 0-6 or 1-5 without being the worst. ofc its rare but u got some match ups were u just got huge class diff`s and u may are unlucky with the only one mate where u could do something with trolled a bit or dont understand how to do it with . good example for me sometimes is Void disc if u got lobbys where everyone just ignores him and let him freecast every single game the other healer could go 0-6 without bein worse
but even in this case i think its never time to start blame someone else, since u can only change yourself not others
halcyon siren
Yeah, I experienced impossible lobbies (at my skill level) on demonology in dragonflight, but the reality is and always will be, a truly cracked warlock isn't going 0-6 at 2.2k
But yes, I agree, for laymen you can still, rarely, go 0-6 and might not be the true worst guy in the lobby
grand mesa
Just download silent shuffle
I haven’t been able to send or receive messages this entire time
clear pulsar
I shoulda done that back when
grand mesa
If I had been able to receive messages maybe I would have noticed sooner that I was wearing pve gear
I didn’t know why they kept pinging me in starting room
grand mesa
So true
clear pulsar
Is there a ping mute addon?
grand mesa
Idk about that actually
wanton ridge
There's an option to disable chat directly in game I think, I turn it on before shuffle lol
I guess the addon does it for you automagically?
I think the popup you get when you try to /afk saved me frmo losing a lot of rating too, damn blizzard and their anti-rage shenanigans
grand mesa
I guess the addon does it for you automagically?
Ya
I can’t even send or receive bnets
Lulz
wanton ridge
I started turning off chat when this guy said he reported me for not healing him after he leap->charged behind pillar
but at this point its more to prevent me from saying stuff lol.
grand mesa
Hahaha yeah
It protects you from others and protects others from you
Big boomboom
livid wasp
youre so good at the game
grand mesa
Yeah man I willed the Ascendo proc into existence by sheer skill
native horizon
I didn’t know why they kept pinging me in starting room
ahahahahaha
kinda funny xD
BUT
i want that addon now
safe heart
If im on healer I don't care
Someone says something to me, I'm throwing on the spot
Fuck em
On dps I will be respectful
native horizon
If im on healer I don't care
Someone says something to me, I'm throwing on the ...
imagine sitting 50m in qeue as dps just to tilt the healer! xD
native horizon
<https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/silent-shuffle>
clear pulsar
imagine sitting 50m in qeue as dps just to tilt the healer! xD
Healers self tilt more than dps talk to them
Most bitch made playerbase of all time, as highlighted by the comments above
Compare to the giga-chad dps that tilt but still try their best and push through the brink of despair (zechey)
native horizon
Healers self tilt more than dps talk to them
possible
safe heart
If im on my shadow priest I don't say anything cuz I don't wanna trigger anyone and risk losing a round that I waited 30m for
But on mw I'll get another pop in 5 seconds so idc about losing 1 round just to shut them up
grand mesa
Only reason I get tilted in pvp is Fuji
stray sigil
edgy basin
Why the hell devourer DH gets a PvP talent to make collapsing star uninterruptible but balance Druid gets 2 full moons that cant be casted lol
grim peak
how do you guys use cyclone in bgs? i try to use it to cc a healer most of the time, but it gets kicked very often. Do you just try and try ?
clear pulsar
Why the hell devourer DH gets a PvP talent to make collapsing star uninterruptib...
This is such a boomie pilled take
You're like the boomie zechey
edgy basin
how do you guys use cyclone in bgs? i try to use it to cc a healer most of the t...
That’s most of boomie casts lol
grim peak
why?
edgy basin
Unless it’s instant or super fast wrath
clear pulsar
how do you guys use cyclone in bgs? i try to use it to cc a healer most of the t...
You just try and fake kicks, but you have arcane spells to cast while you're kicked on nature and vice-versa, and most of your spells will be instant in a bg scenario
edgy basin
This is such a boomie pilled take
I mean it would make moons truly be useable lets be fair
clear pulsar
So yeah cyclone healers, bait and/or fake kicks, and when you get a clone off you dump damage and kill something
grim peak
❤️
edgy basin
At least EC hero talent tree should give something like that or faster cast of full moons
clear pulsar
I mean it would make moons truly be useable lets be fair
It's just an asinine comparison
Like saying why do boomies get 30% barkskin and mages get ice barrier?
It's ignoring the entire kit of the classes you're comparing and how the spells you're comparing dont do the same thing or fit the same function at all
edgy basin
To be honest they pretty close in what they do
Both need set up and to work their way there and both are nukes really
Sure classes are different but funny enough collapsing star and full moon are hella similar
clear pulsar
Not at all
stray sigil
idk if id say boomy needs a lot of setup lol
clear pulsar
If boomie didnt have starsurge and the moons were the spender, maybe
stray sigil
half ur setup is just a rogue pressing kidney for u
edgy basin
For moons yes kinda
clear pulsar
If moons were the central core mechanic for your burst and you couldn't function as a spec without talenting moons, maybe
edgy basin
Moons problem is that you have to cast first 2 then have a long ass cast for the big one
It’s the extreme though
We never use moons
stray sigil
from what ive seen of devourer
it looks like fdk of casters
i dont think u want to be like that
ud much rather be boomy lol
clear pulsar
Yeah devourer is complete ass and the easiest spec to shut down of all time
Cuz any cc instantly ends your meta, you cant extend meta without uptime and you'll have like a 8s window to get a collapsing star off
stray sigil
boomies always like this
edgy basin
Oh for sure but still it’s funny how they do get an uninterruptible big nuke like wtf
clear pulsar
Oh for sure but still it’s funny how they do get an uninterruptible big nuke lik...
And ferals get to be in MELEE RANGE can you believe it
edgy basin
And ferals get to be in MELEE RANGE can you believe it
?
clear pulsar
Why do boomies get to cast starsurge from range while ferals have to be in melee to bite?
It's so stupid
They should buff feral
edgy basin
wtf feral being melee has anything to do
clear pulsar
Cheer to it good night
stray sigil
wtf feral being melee has anything to do
ur kinda comparing 2 spells that havenothing in common
collapsing is the big thing u have to use to do dmg
edgy basin
They did have things in common though
stray sigil
moons u dont even play
stray sigil
entire kit of d evourer is legit to get a collapsing off
thats not the s ame thing at all lol
edgy basin
I’m not saying moons need to be stupid insane dmg
stray sigil
im saying if ur kit relied on getting moons off
ud prob have some talents to help u
but ur just a instant spamming class
so u dont get that
edgy basin
Oh for sure but also devourer DH does dmg without star it’s just there as the big finisher
stray sigil
entire point of the rotation
edgy basin
Balance Druid has moons that should be able to at least be considered
stray sigil
is to get collapsiin off
stray sigil
that has nothing to do with cast time
and everything to do with the fact it does no dmg
pretty sure that thing was omega nuked all the way back in sl
and never got buffed back up
edgy basin
Yeah probably also that
grand mesa
If moons was nuclear damage people would just bait precog with clone casts and then delete someone
edgy basin
U still get ccd while casting lol
stray sigil
u didnt read
edgy basin
U casting for 2 full weeks
edgy basin
Not saying interrupted
stray sigil
precog is all cc and kicks
edgy basin
Precog is still like 2s right?
stray sigil
Precog is still like 2s right?
4
with haste i assume ur full moon is like 2.2 or something like that
its not even that bad of a cast
edgy basin
So have to bait it and hope they proc cog and aren’t smart enough to just save the interrupt for moon
And they will know you have moons because you have to cast the 2 lesser ones in advance
edgy basin
Nah balance Druid still dies
stray sigil
good thing regen is ur whole hp bar
edgy basin
For sure but outside of that
stray sigil
1min wall is kinda sick
clear pulsar
1min wall is kinda sick
I dont remember you saying this when you played feral
Before the fdk and ww fotm rerolls
stray sigil
I dont remember you saying this when you played feral
ye pig skin was 20%
grand mesa
grand mesa
u take supreme amounts of dick
stray sigil
Run and def and run and def and never die
this isnt sl anymore u fucking pig
u cant run anymore on ww
grand mesa
Ur a glory hole
stray sigil
lime light
shadap @stray sigil
stray sigil
nobody knows ep
lime light
that he was the greatest
stray sigil
only supreme leader
lime light
and he will comeback one day
stray sigil
he is too old
lime light
when arena is good
stray sigil
iots over for ep
edgy basin
u cant run anymore on ww
You don’t run, you teleport lol
grand mesa
WW unkillable SSSSS+ bitch mode spec
Thoughts on ele and rsham
lime light
any tldr about midnight
clear pulsar
Trash
clear pulsar
Everything is turned into MOBA class
lime light
aha
clear pulsar
5 spells total, ready for xbox release
lime light
is someone streaming the beta pvp or something
edgy basin
Balance Druid GAINED a button
clear pulsar
Snupy I suppose
clear pulsar
Balance Druid GAINED a button
Boomie is like evokers and DHs
It's been a 2026 spec all along
So that makes sense
clear pulsar
I'm more miffed with resto
And that devourer is piss to play
And sv hunter also asssssss
stray sigil
no a real one i said
lime light
rip shred bite?
stray sigil
u lost brs ye
stray sigil
real
lime light
thrash was also trash
stray sigil
nobody pressed thrash anyways
lime light
give the real shred
stray sigil
so that doesnt matter
clear pulsar
Maybne you want to play feral on controller
lime light
the backstab shred
stray sigil
clear pulsar
'-' no idiom
lime light
execute?
clear pulsar
Below energy
lime light
i mean
stray sigil
oh even worse
lime light
moonfire was also dog spell
stray sigil
OMEGALUL
stray sigil
moonfire was also dog spell
mf goated cuz ranged
clear pulsar
No feral is piss tuned rn
clear pulsar
At least in pve feral is the worst single target I've seen
clear pulsar
with ret and feral being melee
What about demon hunter
lime light
just delete them
clear pulsar
New DH spec is melee and caster at the same time
stray sigil
just delete them
agreed
clear pulsar
Both are piss 
lime light
thats why we have semi melee range specs
cuz they are too mobile
ah u talking about this spec
i dont even know what it does
but for me
feral should be hard to be kited melee spec
cant be slowed or rooted bitch, perma no gcd shift
but melee
lime light
grand mesa
Thoughts on ele and rsham
@clear pulsar 
clear pulsar
Momma taught me if I have nothing good to say, then don't say anything
Bless up tho
grand mesa
You’ve said plenty
I’m waiting for you to get bored of bless up
I had to wait out your “my brother in Christ” fixation too
clear pulsar
I’m waiting for you to get bored of bless up
See, momma woulda dunked on my forehead for saying something like this
Let people talk
grand mesa
😂
random patrol
cherpumple time
halcyon siren
Feral In mid has me despairing so hard
It's like so bad I think it might make me stop playing if I try to main it but like man my other classes are lowkey fucking worse (mage)
livid wasp
what is so bad about it
halcyon siren
And I don't really wanna play other shit
Just not enough for me to longterm play I think,
3 button guy
Shred Bite rip
livid wasp
rake?
halcyon siren
(Rake too ig) so 4 button guy
clear pulsar
Moonfire is toast
livid wasp
we lose brutal slash
clear pulsar
It does piss damage and competes with the bottom rows now
livid wasp
whatever
halcyon siren
In a class that is 50 apm
livid wasp
I mean its for ranged combo rotation it doesnt do any dps on retail either
halcyon siren
People are showing 22 apm is shred
clear pulsar
I mean its for ranged combo rotation it doesnt do any dps on retail either
Yeah the other talents you could pick do 0.5% dps
It's in a different spot
In midnight
halcyon siren
It's basically a 3button class man, 1 real builder, 2 spenders
livid wasp
like now?
clear pulsar
It's really lame
halcyon siren
It's less going on than wrath feral (which I really loved)
grand mesa
Sickle my beloved
grand mesa
You know face came up with the necrolord build
halcyon siren
But yeah, no brutal slash no adaptive swarm is my big feeling of loss.
grand mesa
Cooked that shit from the lab
clear pulsar
On that wishy washy energy now
stray sigil
You know face came up with the necrolord build
halcyon siren
Wrath feral had savage roar, positional shred, mangle debufg
clear pulsar
Flame then suck up I see you puzzle
stray sigil
i will not let face take my crown on this one
halcyon siren
Feral on midnight feeks like you're level 35
clear pulsar
'-'
halcyon siren
Based
clear pulsar
I was the first of my bloodline (necro feral)
stray sigil
clear pulsar
I have the receipts
stray sigil
noway ur trying this bit again
clear pulsar
First necro feral by a while, you were asking me about necro feral before you played it
halcyon siren
I was necro feral in s1 because I have been a convoke hater
stray sigil
we played rbgs in sinful i was necro and u were all laughing at my swarms
clear pulsar
I taught you everything
halcyon siren
Since day zero
stray sigil
i made necro feral u wont take that away from me u pig
halcyon siren
Never convoked in my life
In any event
Midnight feral just is missing 2 spells I really liked, midnight fire Mage is missing 2 spells I really liked,
Not sure if it's a reroll angle or not
Worried I will get bored like I got bored with dev, another 3button class
That I liked for 1 season
stray sigil
u only went necrolord
for the mog
u fucking pig
u think i dont remember?
i remember
halcyon siren
It is looking pretty definitive I can't lie...
halcyon siren
Funnier to not.
clear pulsar
Literally made a leggo for it week 1
stray sigil
see @clear pulsar everyone knows
halcyon siren
Idr what bt is
halcyon siren
Ider what ff was
clear pulsar
Look at the days, I was necro 15th, he was venthyr 16th
stray sigil
i did get glad on venthyr feral in sinful
that much i cannot deny
but i was cooking
halcyon siren
I think I was feral frenzy over bt I made catseye and played moment of clarity
Necrolord
Had very much fun
Sl classic when
halcyon siren
I don't think so
halcyon siren
Either way I was def moc
clear pulsar
Yeah I think it was FF vs BT
halcyon siren
Brutal slash mo cats eye
stray sigil
i c
clear pulsar
Real footage from week 1 of SL
clear pulsar
clear pulsar
That was the last time feral was good
stray sigil
incarn was just a duel talent
clear pulsar
Yeah I dont think incarn was playable
halcyon siren
Feel like I might have been sav
clear pulsar
SR was but most ppl was just SOTF
halcyon siren
I didn't hate the choose 3 talent setup tbh
The non meta shit was usually not actually that much worse and actually changed how you played
Whereas now on feral your talents lowkey don't matter
clear pulsar
Whereas now on feral your talents lowkey don't matter
Yeah but this is an issue of feral, not the talent system itself
I dont mind either way the talent trees, but there are specs with good choices that switch it up
halcyon siren
As long as u get circle and incarn u can do basically anything else they're within 1percent
And barely change how u play
halcyon siren
I dont mind either way the talent trees, but there are specs with good choices t...
Which specs tho, on dev it was the same, demo was the same (haven't played any other dps and on resto I am too inexperienced to stray from the Meta builds)
livid wasp
who the fuck cares about some SL feral it was the same shit
stray sigil
clear pulsar
Which specs tho, on dev it was the same, demo was the same (haven't played any o...
Shadow, enhance, ele, guardian, mistweaver
TWW survival has the talents for it but the ones you dont pick are just really weak
halcyon siren
Nah
clear pulsar
Midnight survival doesnt really
livid wasp
everyone played the same build
halcyon siren
They literally didnt
clear pulsar
Resto does too but atm likewise the off-build is not 'competitive'
livid wasp
everyone was necrolord
livid wasp
maybe one guy was kyrian
livid wasp
nah everyone played the same shit
stray sigil
def not
livid wasp
feral played out pretty much the same as now
stray sigil
got glad 1st week playing venthyr
livid wasp
I cant tell a difference
stray sigil
played kyrian bt curio entire s1
u coulkd play sr/soul necro s2 or kyrian kittycleave
halcyon siren
Venth was deadass dog iirc I never even tried it
clear pulsar
you just played a suboptimal covenant as a meme
That's beside my point when I started this topic, whether it's tuned well or not (which you're wrong about for SL feral)
stray sigil
it was bad but w.e
clear pulsar
Current feral doesnt really let you pick stuff to play particularly different
The talent tree just doesnt have stuff that changes things
livid wasp
can always go dotc for pvp
stray sigil
everyone was kyrian s1
still played bt curio over the tf leggo kyrian
livid wasp
hardly
clear pulsar
It pressed diff buttons with diff talents and diff leggos, was it really different?!?!
random patrol
I just beamed bashed in twos with a bear to 2100 in 2s season 4 in sl
what a meme of an expac
clear pulsar
Was @grand mesa right all along
random patrol
eh twos are easy my healer just got a girl preg and is moving though so solo it is
clear pulsar
Was SL the last good wow xpac?
grand mesa
Yes
clear pulsar
I think you're right
random patrol
best expacs are cata, wod and sl
halcyon siren
Ioved cata
I've been hardstuck duelist forever but it still felt better to be 2600 than it feels to be 2200
halcyon siren
Cata was feral dream
halcyon siren
Doesn't matter still owned
random patrol
people like "why don't you play mop" cause outside of symbiosis memes mop boomy is ass
pendulum sim
other reasons to but that's the main
stray sigil
isnt boomy aff good in mop
halcyon siren
People hated feral cata but I still loved it
random patrol
yeah I just really hate the eclipse bar
edgy basin
Idk which one I prefer: bar eclipse or button eclipse
LA does need to change now for EC since you no longer use 2 wrath’s to get into eclipse so you are never ever getting that buff
random patrol
I would just remove eclipse but that's me
livid wasp
blitz depressing
halcyon siren
Qhat cr now zechey
edgy basin
I would just remove eclipse but that's me
I do wish keeper hero talents were more into solar eclipse same way EC is into lunar
halcyon siren
What placement is that
Are you the goat top 10 now
Or has inflation done a number
On the game
halcyon siren
I think I capped at rank 24 last season before plummeting idr though might have been 34
Game got too hard for me/faced ppl beyond my skill by a lot it felt like
And I'm a giver upper
clear pulsar
2908 is a big number
Yeah it's always shocking to see zechey's numbers cuz he only ever talks when he loses
clear pulsar
But he'll randomly go 3 days without saying anything so that makes sense
And when he wins it's nothing and when he loses the system is shit
livid wasp
I dont play every day
halcyon siren
My hope is to get tabard with my gf this season and maybe grind strat wins
After
I became suddenly homeless before finishing strategist wins last season 
I wish I was good enough for legend man but I just get owned too much I dropped to 2k I think idk how to get the last 200 rating
From 2.2
livid wasp
you became homeless?
halcyon siren
Yeah may 16
I went into psychiatric intensive care unit on May 16, illegally evicted May 31
Wcyd
livid wasp
sadge
halcyon siren
Life comes at u fast
livid wasp
do you know what is really going on in puzzles head
halcyon siren
ya it's all G tho we are so back as the kids say
grand mesa
Except puzzle
clear pulsar
<:sus_Stare:975450167274786896>
You just look like you have a good safety net]
Stop assuming the worst ok?
grand mesa
I may have a net or two
livid wasp
puzzle won at life
stray sigil
hes middle class
livid wasp
it's a dangerous situation
stray sigil
@clear pulsar