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grand mesa
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I have silent shuffle addon on so I wasn’t sure why they kept pinging me in starting room

safe heart
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Only dps shuffle makes me mad
Healer shuffle I sleep

random patrol
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prob just wait until third week of december then profit

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for shuffle qs

wintry jackal
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Game is fun

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If it’s not walk away

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Profit

random patrol
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Im having fun just saying for people that want to wait

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always better to wait as long as possible unless you want games

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mmr system work like that

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I have 8 characters to q so I don't care

harsh ore
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0 cr games are lasting 20 mins

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this late into the season

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lmao

safe heart
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Waiting till the end to push is kinda weird to me but I get it

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But idk maybe other ppl don't need practice like I do

harsh ore
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oh nvm

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its cuz i was queued with 5 people at 2.5k cr

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and im at 0 cr

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that makes sense

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i was like why are these matches taking so long

harsh ore
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arena rotation has been the same for 6 expansions

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XD

safe heart
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I don't think rotation is the thing that needs practicing

harsh ore
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wont need practice if i played seasons 1 and 2 most classes and hero talents are the same

safe heart
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Getting good at split second decision making and developing better and better game sense is the key

harsh ore
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dont need that below 2500 rating lol

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and i only go up to 2500

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so

safe heart
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Ok u don't need practice glad we discussed

stray sigil
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play ww

safe heart
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Well I'm below 2500 on ww so I dont need practice

stray sigil
safe heart
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Not below 2500

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Below gg it's all free

harsh ore
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lets see how long i can go without punching my monitor

random patrol
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looks like dr tracker is tied to arena frames and not nameplates on beta that is all

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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I didn’t get to see DR tracker play out because WW one shot everyone within 3s of gates opening

random patrol
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well gained some muscle but still 29 pounds underweight so progress I guess

tiny oar
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Clapcat good work voodoo

random patrol
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hotpockets are sandwiches there you go

weak moon
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when did rdu lose dispel protection?

tiny oar
halcyon siren
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What is rdru dispel prot

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Just a 30percent to not get dispelled or does it do a heal if dispelled

clear pulsar
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It's a stacking hot

grand mesa
# halcyon siren What is rdru dispel prot

Every time you get a hot dispelled you have some moderate hot. Stacks. Still called reactive resin I believe. I don’t think it’s even a passive in spellbook it just exists

clear pulsar
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Moderate is def a word used by someone with a strong purge that has 0 sympathy for resto druids

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RAT

viscid remnant
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🤯

lime light
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@viscid remnant the last druid PogCat

harsh ore
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Woah

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Resto Druid is down bad in SS too???

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Usually they’re down bad in RBGs only, but both??

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Time to bring out my MW for RBGs

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I think I need to go back into monk discord though to learn a few things

native horizon
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never leave druid

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just swap specc

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play boomie. boomie blitz is free 3k for everyone

livid wasp
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no

analog fox
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Feral vs assa who wins with equal skill

livid wasp
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assa

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forces everything with cds then blinds and resets and goes again

native horizon
random patrol
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Zechey won't play boomy for the well not quite same reasons I won't touch cat

livid wasp
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boomy is better for blitz but chads play feral

native horizon
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but feral is harder i think. to learn . idk i lose on 1,6 lobbys as feral and with boomy it doesnt matter xD feral feels harder to play for me

livid wasp
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I faced the top blitz ferals in last 2 bgbs and beat them

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im the best cat

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(probably just got lucky with teams)

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I cant comment I havent played boomy in pvp

native horizon
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in blitz i have 3,3 mmr right now as boomy but in arenas im stuck 2,4 so yea blitz feels so free as boomy

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even as a bad one

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well rn im just 2,3 in shuffle

livid wasp
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yeah well it's a lot better than 3k+ in blitz

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you can reach 3k in blitz if you have a brain cell

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mmr

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and started early

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and just play a lot

native horizon
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maybe idk

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starte few days ago

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thought late season is easier so i choosed playing late

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^^

livid wasp
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shuffle feels just aids as feral

tardy hare
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we did it lads

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2s lord once again

livid wasp
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good job

native horizon
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Achievement Gratz!Achievement

grand mesa
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Out of curiosity…was it Hunter

viscid remnant
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🔥

tardy hare
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Disc mage

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And partially disc lock

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But it was indeed

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Hunter hunter hunter hunter

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On enemy team

wanton ridge
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i remember in BFA when i was running destro/healer in 2s we'd /afk every game with a bm hunter on it, good times

tardy hare
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Lmao

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We'd be back at 0 rating if we did that today 🙂

wanton ridge
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"Hey maybe I can get a bolt now, nope. Now maybe? Nope. This time, surely, nope"

grand mesa
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They just cc the dps and slow the game down cause they’re gonna win later anyway

tardy hare
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Hmm they always went mage for me

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But most were surv

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But ye they just take cds without cc

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Crazy

tiny oar
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🙂

safe heart
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well im lagging weirdly tonight so just gunna play shuffle instead of keys

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really annoyed cuz the lag bricked 16 dawn breaker

livid wasp
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I am ill for the first time in years

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probably calorie deficit for a month taking its toll

stray sigil
tiny oar
random patrol
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double hpal, mm dk lobby aka torture

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haven't actually had a lobby without a hunter in well 2 weeks

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always a mm or survival sometimes both

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a bm would be refreshing tbf

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managed to tie it do to being carried by the spriest for 2 rounds so that's a win I guess in a moral way

tiny oar
random patrol
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that's a thing

velvet quest
random patrol
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@velvet quest yeah it's just boring seeing them every round

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that lobby came down to the spriest being a monster though

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pretty much running faerie swarm every lobby now

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I would actually say a lot of it is also getting reroll hunters that are dead weight 2 of my lost rounds were with the mm not knowing what he was doing.

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he didn't lay down traps until round 5

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irony is mm and boomy actually works really well in 3s

tardy hare
random patrol
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@tardy hare its more class variety like one good thing about shuffle but eh there is always a top spec

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budget ap bar with Idk the 2 buffs I care about really

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I would def hide a lot of the side clutter one the edit mode addons are updated

tardy hare
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And in ok with surv or bm

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But the randomness of MM crits on these people

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Is so annoying

random patrol
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I've done like 20 lobbies this week 19 had one hunter

tardy hare
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Can be completely fine and then one ape just gets 100-0'd

random patrol
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at least

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I think 6 had double hunter

tardy hare
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Yee

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Crazy

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Just did some healing this ssn

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But man

random patrol
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mind you I find them more annoying when their somehow unable to do anything

tardy hare
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Mm lobbies are not good for health

random patrol
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low damage no burst and their not doing traps at all

tardy hare
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Yee

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And then they turn around and your teammate dies

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: )

random patrol
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though their great against clothies

tardy hare
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Until they're on your team and they forget to deter or exhi

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🥲

random patrol
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Ill take hunter over double dk lock lobbies though

livid wasp
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I had a dream where I queued into a prot warr and 7 fury warriors team

tiny oar
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owoLaugh2 worse than rogue mage dreams

tiny oar
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yea me too davider me too

livid wasp
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how do you people play shuffle

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like it's so tough

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blitz is easy you can just blend in and play

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in shuffle your badness is just rubbed in your face

polar nymph
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It's amazing

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I'm gone from this channel for almost the entire year and Zechey hasn't changed one bit

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Literally not a bit

livid wasp
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you were gone? didnt notice

viscid remnant
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honestly folten replaced him

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but folten is more annoying

polar nymph
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Interesting

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New name to me

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Maybe

proud tangle
livid wasp
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what is so bad about my question

grand mesa
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it's the same leading question everyday about the game being hard

tardy hare
viscid remnant
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fell for thaderyl propaganda

grand mesa
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Folt is cool dude

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Just cause he didn’t flame Thad first global

velvet quest
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I think zecheys gotten a slightly better mental over the last year I’m excited by his progress

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On the other hand loststray leaves for a year and comes back the exact same

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Also folten is nice why does it matter if he’s cool with someone other people dislike, it’s not like anyone here is forced to interact more with Thad because of folten

tardy hare
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We dont dislike

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Folt just blames us for false information

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Which we dislike

velvet quest
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thats fair i just try not to have 1 bad interaction or disagreement shape my whole opinion on someone

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like loststrays bio is him simping for charlie kirk but i dont let that define him. i choose to dislike him for the 100 other annoying things hes done. im much more based than u all

livid wasp
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wooow

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loststray is literally trump

polar nymph
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What have I done?

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I'm just standing here

clear pulsar
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Folten is rly the noat

native horizon
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i wonder how many seasons it takes now to fix the disconnect issue from knockbacks in pvp

proud tangle
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I’m 500 matches played so far and haven’t experienced that

tardy hare
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MC dc, knockback dc, fear during alter time dc

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Plenty of unfortunate ones

stray sigil
clear pulsar
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Literally every single holy priest player in this game

stray sigil
tardy hare
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Holy priest pretty fun tbh

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But

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Voidweaver is more pumper dream

viscid remnant
native horizon
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and if that happens in battlegrounds u cant log in until bg ends thats.. amazing gameplay for the whole team

proud tangle
clear pulsar
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You get impacted more by people melding your incaps fr

viscid remnant
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but he melds theirs lmao its too easy

proud tangle
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i fought a rdruid yesterday at 25 mmr that kept melding my hunter's chimaeral stings, pretty sure its a bot script

native horizon
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in blitz this happens almost every 5 game on someone

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doesnt matter if u climb or not its just a bad game for one of the teams

proud tangle
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sounds like a pc issue then

native horizon
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happens also in enemie team so its kinda even ig

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n nah

clear pulsar
native horizon
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i dont think so many high end pc`s crash on that

proud tangle
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this patch just raised the bios software requirement again so ppl with 13th gen cpus are getting the error again

clear pulsar
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Blizzard isnt releasing a game that runs on only processors post 2018 and supporting only dx12 lol

grand mesa
clear pulsar
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That's an issue on the development team, why are you trying to pin this on people buying the wrong mobo lol

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It's such a weird hill

native horizon
clear pulsar
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Dude dont bother

native horizon
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okay

proud tangle
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im not man holy christ lmao

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my point is stop complaining focus on your improvement

clear pulsar
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I'll never not think critful is a dolt

grand mesa
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Since I went amd x3d I never fell thru the floor

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Just saying

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Get fucked intel users

proud tangle
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def the worst class cord out of all of them

viscid remnant
native horizon
proud tangle
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3.1 in bgb aight

viscid remnant
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very bad

native horizon
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yea

viscid remnant
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u need to be higher and stop going under map please

native horizon
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my bad

viscid remnant
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np

clear pulsar
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Critful commanded it, he is core analyst of discord pvp channels

viscid remnant
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bg main = not human

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!

native horizon
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im nightelve! u read me like a book

livid wasp
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the game has been telling me to update my motherboard for over half a year or something when I start wow and I still havent bothered

grand mesa
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What chip do u have

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If u have the intel 14th or 9800x3d with the asrock shit u should probably update

viscid remnant
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@clear pulsar

livid wasp
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I have 13th

grand mesa
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There’s that weird undervolt issues gen 13 and 14 intel chips where they fry themselves over time

viscid remnant
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wasnt there some flaw ye

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was going to say

grand mesa
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yeah it’s with all chips

viscid remnant
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ihave gen 12

grand mesa
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Not like a bad batch

viscid remnant
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only genius

livid wasp
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so much effort I have to like get the update on an usb stick and start it on bios

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im unemployed dont they realize I dont have the time for this

viscid remnant
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🤯

grand mesa
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On the bright side if your Intel chips fries itself and ur also unemployed you’ll be freed from wow and your own inner demons soon enough

clear pulsar
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Zechey sometimes you're funny guy

grand mesa
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👍

clear pulsar
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Unlike puzzle

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Never funny

livid wasp
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does it fix my fps issue in the new zone if I update it

grand mesa
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I’m hilarious u just got too large of a stick up your own ass to appreciate it

grand mesa
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It doesn’t make anything better

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It just mitigates it potentially being much worse

tardy hare
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Also been fearing/coiling a lot of people out of maps

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But usually when that happens to me

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I dc or fall to death

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But these people just walk back

grand mesa
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Mc bug has never been fixed

tardy hare
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And continue

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Big unforch

native horizon
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just happened ones to me yet but i see very often someone in my grp or enemie grp keep gettin on/off every 10 seconds

tardy hare
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My homie also consistently DCs on being feared when alter time runs out

native horizon
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happens on way to much spells rn

native horizon
grand mesa
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nah I don’t think they ever really fixed it tbh

stray sigil
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they just disabled maps that were worse for it

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as a fix

tiny oar
native horizon
grand mesa
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There was a known issue where mages could reliably dc players with blast wave on blades edge

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And it was reproducible enough that mages could do it fairly consistently and people were posting about it on Twitter

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We haven’t seen blades edge for like 2-3 seasons now 😂

livid wasp
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could have like

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made blast wave not work in blades edge

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but ruin it for everyone

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I guess

stray sigil
native horizon
viscid remnant
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ahahahaha

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instead of fixing it they try to sweep it under the rug

grand mesa
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Bring blades edge back

clear pulsar
analog fox
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Why is veinripper prefered over rip n tear

livid wasp
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more value

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probably

late wraith
stray sigil
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banger ? how do we feel about this

late wraith
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Loststray for sure cries and sings about carrying the flame

late wraith
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True

livid wasp
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charlie kirk said finland is very russian I dont like him

viscid remnant
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Imean americans are mostly clueless

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About other countries

stray sigil
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real

viscid remnant
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The funniest thing is people putting his face on other ppl

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As a meme

stray sigil
viscid remnant
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And not to me wow

stray sigil
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that pig sends 50 reels a day its real

viscid remnant
stray sigil
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he does have a job

livid wasp
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I wish they changed the ladders to exclude people with several alts

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and only list their highest rated character

hollow condor
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I have endless supply of them

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its true

native horizon
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If i look at m+ it should be 30 rank 1 per specc to Match the number of titles

random patrol
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I know some versions of classic restrict to one toon per account

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for rank 1

native horizon
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Could be a bit better ye but right now if u know some ppl u also know that they 3x same specc on rank 1 on 3 Accounts
Would be same result i guess

halcyon siren
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Psure alts oj the same acc in r1 range do not take slots

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(More than 1 slot)

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Could be cooked and wrong though

native horizon
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No u are right if like 4 chars on same acc hit r1 in the same specc blizz just inceases the cutoff

Well atleast thats what blizz said in shadowlands
But even i still always see some speccs with only 1-2 accs in title range
If check.pvp shows it right

livid wasp
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well for cutoffs its just 1 char but would just be nice to see a realistic rank instead of having to think of how many alts are ahead of me

halcyon siren
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Are you gunna try for r1

random patrol
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starfall build may be bad in arena but man can it pad

grand mesa
safe heart
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i honestly think if those really high m+ guys started caring about pvp theyd be insane

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i remember being blown away by puzzles dh friend cuz he was a pve guy doing pvp and he just knew how to gap other dhs

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esp since pvp is so much about micro cc and doing holocaust

grand mesa
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He’s also pvped a fair bit

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In the past

safe heart
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yeah but still

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if ur really sick at pve and you start pvp'ing

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i think you got a big leg up

random patrol
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sometimes you can indeed blame the heals(when a healer goes 0-6)

thorny narwhal
random patrol
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7th druid done for first part of push now for final druid

polar nymph
grand mesa
polar nymph
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That's basically me right now

viscid remnant
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Involving politics in videogame discord is pretty cringe

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But ig they started it by looking at ur profile

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Where you put it

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So who knows really

polar nymph
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It's whatever to me really.

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Anyway, how've you been?

viscid remnant
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Okay i guess

polar nymph
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ez

random patrol
viscid remnant
random patrol
polar nymph
random patrol
polar nymph
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Oh that's a good one

random patrol
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that server has a lot of cat emotes

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whatcat including this one which is actually my cat

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they just made it a emote one day

polar nymph
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That probably stun locked you when you saw that

random patrol
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Hypertremblecat this one though

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tldr soulsbornearmoredcore modding discord loves cats

polar nymph
random patrol
polar nymph
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Who doesn't?

random patrol
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dogs

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well some dogs like cats

polar nymph
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Ours for sure did

random patrol
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my last dog tried to herd the cats

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learned that don't work

polar nymph
livid wasp
native horizon
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Im to Bad to reach that :c
But
I think more slots would be healthy for the game cuz
If more player can reach it
May more are motivated to join pvp

We need more player!

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They tryna do that step with 2.3 glad next season

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U guys like that change ?

viscid remnant
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🤯

livid wasp
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dunno

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I cant reach 2.3k anyway

halcyon siren
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me collecting my giga discounted welfare gladiator in midnight as a perennial duelist 😋

grand mesa
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Career duelists RISE

safe heart
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Maybe unchained won't be freest glad in history now

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I hope they don't change it cuz last thing I wanna do is actually get it one day and then get roasted for being happy about a "free mount"

livid wasp
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astral warlord would be cool

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maybe if I never lose

halcyon siren
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and i am like 'bruh' because in cata i was 2650 and i had a LOT of friends who were 2100-2300 rating and they all got rival lol, in legion rival was like 1900

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rewards are lowered because less people play the game, relative difficulty will likely remain similar

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shruggies

halcyon siren
livid wasp
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asasddasss

livid wasp
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pvp would be the best if it wasnt tilting

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it would be the best change ever if they made pvp not tilting

wintry jackal
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Did they change it so upgrading hero track doesn’t give mythic appearance??

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Or am I tripping

random patrol
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people that want to gatekeep the glad mounts at 2400 plush are dumb game mode is already shrinking I say the more rewards the better lower glad sure real "prestige" if that's even a thing is rank 1 so bleh

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if anything they should add a tint or just the mount to 2s and shuffle while their at it

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fuck it

wanton ridge
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(for Midnight)

tardy hare
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2s would be goof

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Good

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I mean

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2.4 in 2s rn is like top 170

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Back in % days you had well more than that

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Tbf idk why they dont do it for 2s and shuffle anyway

halcyon siren
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Glad mount in 2s would reinvigorate the bracket instantly

tardy hare
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Ye

halcyon siren
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People love 2s

tardy hare
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Its so much more accessible

halcyon siren
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I think it's just also more fun

tardy hare
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I have 1 homie i always vibe with, but we just can't find a 3rd with same mental

halcyon siren
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Honestly

tardy hare
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So we just skip 3s usually

halcyon siren
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Yeah that's often been me as well.

tardy hare
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Cause don't wanna search 3rd

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So we just roll 2s

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Yeee

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2s is fun

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Would be nice to see more rewards

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But one can only dream

halcyon siren
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Yeah rewards capping at 2100 basically in 2s

tardy hare
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Well tabard for 2.4

halcyon siren
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Combined with the stark difficulty increase

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Around that level

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Which could be fixed if people started playing it

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2s also makes lfg grind 10x more bearable

tardy hare
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Just feels great to do big setup cc chains without the many stops of 3 people

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Aee

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2s lfg nice and calm

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Only need to find 1 slave to queue eith

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Shuffle queue time just stops me from wanting to play it as dps

halcyon siren
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Yeah 2s is legit more fun than 3s I feel, more room to breathe and play your character

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Yeah it's horrible

tardy hare
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Its nice QoL as healer though

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But as dps its horrible

halcyon siren
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Queues above 2100 as dps

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Can go up to 45min

tardy hare
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It's just that I'm not as good of a healer compared to dps and don't have the interests to trihard it to become too good at it

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So climbing as dps feels tons easier

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But then queue times are long and i dont want to wait

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So just resort to doing something else

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🥲

halcyon siren
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Ya I like this game a lot its hard to want to play it when the queues are even 12min long

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When I can queue tft or league or even gw2 pvp and get a match in under 5min even at diamond

random patrol
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I got like 10 plus matches in another game while qing a lobby of shuffle the other night

native horizon
# halcyon siren People love 2s

i hate 2s! 3s feels so much better in my opinion. but as Machtig said.. the time to search sucks unless u only play on your healer
but ppl leave after 1 lose anyways

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and u search again xD

native horizon
# tardy hare Would be nice to see more rewards

even blitz got more rewards u got a toy (banner) every season for the blitz glad version. idk how its called in english strategist ? or something. i got every season another toy in different color. sure its boring af but atleast its a reward right ? ^^ is there something in Shuffle too ? for legend ? . if yes. 2s is the only braket without unique rewards xD

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oh yea and every braket got a r1 reward except 2s xD

grand mesa
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I love 2s

livid wasp
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blitz would be fun if it wasnt possible to lose

native horizon
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i think the worst part about blitz is that u could sometimes also just roll dice to see if u gain or lose rating xD since some maps got extreme op class carrys

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i got games where i carried some bases hard and lost. and other games i feed like its my first bg ever and win without any value ^^

livid wasp
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its tilting

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makes me not wanna queue cause of the possibility

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but I have to queue to get rating

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its rough

grand mesa
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Get that addon that hides rating and just play for fun

livid wasp
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I can track wins and losses in my head

misty shuttle
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anyone know why it won't let me use the pvp astral varnish on my heroic pve set shoulder

clear pulsar
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Wrong slot version varnish maybe

misty shuttle
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you do be right

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man needs to read tooltips

viscid remnant
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Im afraid you might be washed

halcyon siren
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<@&114146878353833984>

safe heart
stray sigil
grand mesa
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there is something extremely wrong with rsham mana

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lmao

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why is it giving me 36k mp5

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even with the long standing bug that's giving me 9-10x more than it should in pve, that's still just 20k mp5

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idk why im getting 36k mp5

random patrol
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still feel like some shuffles are lit just which healer is way better the last one I just did the voidweaver went 6-0

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resto druid was lit worthless

rich crag
#

Trying to decide if in bgs and such i should use the star burst or thorns sometimes I feel like I under use star burst potentail but shrug

random patrol
#

are you base sitting more or team fighting more?

rich crag
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usually alone

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base sitting

random patrol
#

star burst can be good though if your base sitting your prob better off with thorns though I prefer faerie swarm for melee these days course thorns isn't bad pretty much free dam

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so prob thorns cause your not normally starfalling if your solo sitting

native horizon
halcyon siren
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even post nerfs?

clear pulsar
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Yeah

wanton ridge
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back in the day I played disc priest in tbc where you were an immobile towel trying to get mana burns in and you had no way to get a warrior off you and hunters would laugh at you with viper sting, now they are void gods doing w/e they want, smh

edgy basin
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i wonder if that will work for PvP bear in midnight

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in theory there is a very nice cat window with surge proc, rake going into cat, maim, HoTW, rip, mangle (back into bear)

safe heart
#

thats alot of work to play feral at 5% capacity

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your rake and rip are not gunna pump

edgy basin
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i mean the idea is to still play bear lol

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need to see how the dmg goes though

safe heart
#

are u expecting your rake and rip to blast or something

edgy basin
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no

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but for DoTC to be viable with that maybe

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with surge

safe heart
#

your cat window is just you pressing rake and rip

edgy basin
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rake,rip,maim and new HoTW

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then whatever u can do with how much rage you have when going back to bear

safe heart
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i assume this is for bgs only right

edgy basin
#

funny enough i think its better in arena

safe heart
edgy basin
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it at least needs to be tried

safe heart
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putting up hotw rake rip isnt gunna do anything brother sorry to say

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honestly i dont think you need to try it

edgy basin
#

HoTW is different in midnight

safe heart
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but its your sub

edgy basin
#

new HoTW might actually make it work

safe heart
#

yea so a feral frenzy without any mastery boost

edgy basin
#

at the very least it should feel like we a true druid of the claw

safe heart
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and no swarm

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this alone will absolutely not make bear viable in arena

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youd get much much farther learning to bully healers and clone well

edgy basin
#

probably but it does look fun actually going bear/cat in combat and do something instead of just going into bear to heal

safe heart
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well if youre doing it for fun then just do it

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but if youre doing it cuz it might be good then save ur time

native horizon
#

xD

edgy basin
#

in b4 it does actually work amazingly because ppl dont expect the bear necessities

safe heart
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yeah i just double checked the surge thing, so its a 50% boost on a non-mastery rip

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and a non mastery feral frenzy

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with no swarm

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i mean is it a damage boost? definitely maybe, beyond a shadow of a doubt, potentially
is it afk healable by all healers? 100%

edgy basin
#

u testing it live or in beta?

safe heart
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snapshotted swarmed feral bleeds are already easy enough to heal

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you just came up with this idea, why would i be testing it

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but like, your idea is to use rake and rip as a bear

edgy basin
#

without the beta talent changes it probably feels horrible lol

safe heart
#

i mean is hotw cd reduced to like 1 minute or something

edgy basin
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no

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its 2 still sadly

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its something to at least try once

safe heart
#

so feral frenzy without snap shotting or swarm on a 2min cd

edgy basin
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i mean swarm is gone anyway

safe heart
#

are the wild power surges guaranteed or is it a chance to proc a stack

edgy basin
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guaranteed

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after 6 mangles

safe heart
edgy basin
#

the idea would be fight until the proc (6 mangles in)

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then rake,maim,hotw,rip,mangle to go back into bear and continue

safe heart
#

is this gunna do more damage than lunar beam

edgy basin
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no idea

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probably something like that is better

safe heart
#

i just cant see doing this on a 2m cd effectively to do anything

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like the feral frenzy is the best part of this equation in my mind

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and its just a natty 6 second bleed

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feral atleast has mastery boosting it out of the box

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  • tiger lust
edgy basin
#

oh for sure pure feral probably is better numbers wise

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then again DoC feral is weird also

safe heart
#

im just trying to say that, youre missing alot of what makes the feral version do damage so youre left with the wet noodle version

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cuz really youre just getting a 50% boosted rip

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youre not even buffing the feral frenzy

edgy basin
#

It kinda gets buffed from other things but yeah

wintry jackal
#

gm chat

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how do we feel about this xmog

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going for void feral

grand mesa
#

Looks nice

wintry jackal
#

ty puzzle hope your day is going well

livid wasp
#

I hope if I dont get R1 I will at least drop far from the top

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so it wont be too tilting

safe heart
#

how the cluck did you get that dragon

clear pulsar
grand mesa
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Lmao why

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Oh

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I see

halcyon siren
#

fellas

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anybody else?

livid wasp
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my life

clear pulsar
#

Worst healer in game and worst healer in midnight beta

halcyon siren
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just weird, fresh toon, won first gam

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lowkey worried about dropping into the mmr abyss

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never experienced 'elo hell' like this

wintry jackal
safe heart
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where do you get it

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or whats it called

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i can google

halcyon siren
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it's the mythic dimmy mount

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unbound star-eater

safe heart
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it looks alot cooler than the aotc mount i bought wtf

halcyon siren
#

ya also casts a lot more

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so

wintry jackal
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i got a decent deal

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mine was like 1.5 mil g

livid wasp
#

why didnt you just join a guild like me

wintry jackal
#

but i don't do it a lot

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and i knew i would never kill mythic dimensius

grand mesa
#

It’s a fun fight

safe heart
#

im gunna try to raid next season

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as mw

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im salty about not being able to get a mythic loom trinket

grand mesa
#

It’s very puggable

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Just do first 2

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Plexus and soulbinder

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It unlocks loot table for loom

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Unless u have been doing that and have been horribly unlucky in vault

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I think everyone should do some level of M raiding

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It’s the main game and lays a nice foundation for everything else imo

livid wasp
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freaking nobody quing at 3.3k mmr

wintry jackal
#

ngl watching my group down him

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was really cool

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made me interested in pve

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idk why pvp has a chokehold on me tho

halcyon siren
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Killing other players is more exciting I think

grand mesa
safe heart
halcyon siren
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I like pve, a little bit, but Goldie baronbottom doesnt threaten my character in an interesting way and I have never felt like I 'owned' loomithar or whatever, or 'outplayed' or been outplayed by so'leah

grand mesa
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I think m+ and pvp becomes way more fun to me as a minigame when it’s accentuating main game. I spent most of DF as pvp only and it’s the least fun I’ve had in an expac

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Also blue posts make u way more mad as a pvper than pver tettleslul

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I don’t care if homie playing a diff healer or diff spec gets a 10% buff in pve but in pvp I want to neck myself

safe heart
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me and my brother had that conversation before
when a class is randomly op in pve, it just means you invite that spec instead of the others, but in pvp it means you are actively at a disadvantage and are suffering directly because they are overtuned

grand mesa
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Yes

safe heart
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m+ progression feels better to me than pvp too

grand mesa
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I rarely mald about pve tuning

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Tuning

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esp in raid setting. I get it from m+ like something else being op means u might lose invites

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But raid setting fuck yeah buff rdru by 20% idgaf

charred wagon
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bro how am I ranked 255 in EU on Resto in SS

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Im dog 💀

safe heart
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isnt resto kinda not good right now

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so probably because theres no one queueing it

charred wagon
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yea theres barely any players

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im rank 2 in ArgentDawn on Resto aswell XD

safe heart
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yea so thats why

charred wagon
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my feral is 115

safe heart
#

mystery solved, next question

charred wagon
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wwtf is this dog class

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i gotta reroll

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to fotm

safe heart
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its a cat class

charred wagon
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😿

safe heart
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reroll

charred wagon
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sadly all other calsses are too boring

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only thing that comes close in APM is rog

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but I hate rog

safe heart
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well glad we narrowed it down, enjoy playing feral

charred wagon
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and resto 💀

safe heart
#

next question

charred wagon
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how do i get to rank 1

safe heart
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win trade

charred wagon
safe heart
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next question

charred wagon
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RAW

safe heart
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rules as written

tardy hare
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Bruh my priest is rank 168 in eu in 2s of all people

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People are DOG

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DOOOGGH

charred wagon
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I beat the rank 40 feral on a mirror match twice in a row on 2ss

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this season has to be the worst ever

tardy hare
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Goes for every season tbh

charred wagon
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Either people are bad or im playing vs Pikaboo or Chanimal's alt

tardy hare
#

It's always quite interesting to see how few people there are actually

charred wagon
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AWC players in every 3rd lobby

tardy hare
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I have been rank 2 2s lock for a couple seasons

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And my lock is not that impressive

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Just ded bracket

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Or ded spec

charred wagon
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sadge

tardy hare
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Was casually playing 2s

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Watching AWC

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Join 2s game

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Its borugg and that DH

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)))

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???*

halcyon siren
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it/s every single rating bracket in every mode, if you ever plateau at literally ANY rating you go vs the same 30 people

tardy hare
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Werent you like playing awc

charred wagon
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ye ladder is just super small

tardy hare
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And then they joined awc again

halcyon siren
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and if you don't drop or rise

tardy hare
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Lmao

halcyon siren
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you will go against the same 30 people

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over and over

tardy hare
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Was same moment as finals Rofl

charred wagon
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When the entire ladder is the same 100 people

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its no surprise

halcyon siren
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when i gear an alt in ANY rating bracket on the ladder

tardy hare
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They literally just queued 2s between matches in awc

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Legendary

halcyon siren
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in any game mode

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if i climb to my regular rating

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i see the same people

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on the way up

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it's actually so sad

tardy hare
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Play awc games, roll over me in 2s, win awc finals

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Truly chad behavior

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Ye

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Still meet people I know

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Every season

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Oh there you have him

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There you have that one

charred wagon
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we pray Midnight brings new blood

safe heart
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i am quit

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pve is the way

halcyon siren
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holy fuck i saved my alt

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in the final hour

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surely if i lost at 954 MMR I would never see another queue pop

edgy basin
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Rbgs MMR still effy as hell?

livid wasp
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I just lost a blitz cause our fc fell through the map

halcyon siren
livid wasp
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ruined my evening

random patrol
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just qing that bracket would ruin my evening

livid wasp
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if I lose can it please be just them destroying us and not a close game especially when losing to some dc

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and then I got in an eots with a feral druid who capped the flag when we had 2 bases

random patrol
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worst fucking part of fc maps is there isn't a tie system it's pretty fucked

livid wasp
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like I am ill why does he have to stress my heart like that ill get pneumonia or some shit

random patrol
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why I used to blacklist those bgs when I bg heroed in legion

livid wasp
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yeah its stupid kinda

random patrol
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lit either got to have strong mental for blitz or be high as fuck

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then again I have fun just shooting lazers still not touching blitz though

livid wasp
#

would be so hard mentally trying to go for R1

random patrol
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well yeah you got to deal wit 7 other people not fing up or dcing

livid wasp
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like ofc when you play enough games your skill makes a difference but even if you play flawlessly there is a chance you never get R1 cause of shit teams

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I just wish I could just queue and chill and not have to consider queuing leaving my comfort zone

halcyon siren
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tfw you get an insta pop in shuffle as dps and people actually accept the match

viscid remnant
native horizon
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and we are at 1,7 mmr too

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jesus

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my eyes hurt so much

halcyon siren
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Idk why anybody would want to get 18 in blitz tbh

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Shuffle has a like 1900 mmr start

livid wasp
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it's tough climbing from low

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but at least theres queues

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gotta wait until 11pm

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to get any signs of life at 3k mmr

native horizon
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and im a very very bad teacher

native horizon
grand mesa
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For new players being helped by friends

native horizon
#

as healer ?

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2s low cr is 90% of time meele goes afk on the healer

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he struggles with that ^^

safe heart
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I mean doesn't get easier than only having to heal 2 targets and tank the dps of 1 player instead of 2

native horizon
#

also true

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but blitz feels easier for him he said

safe heart
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You could try dueling him and just challenging him to see how long he can stay alive

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Well in blitz you have a lot of ppl to carry you

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You'll never learn anything

native horizon
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he dont want to learn pvp

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just set and blitz gifts u rating anyways

livid wasp
native horizon
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i guess for alot ppl its very bad that u lose rating if u lose a game. they dont experience this in pve

safe heart
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It's probably easier to get 1800 quick as a healer in shuffle

livid wasp
#

do pro pvpers have arenas and blitz on their comfort zone

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is that their secret

native horizon
#

in shuffle he`s stuck 1,5

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i rly think as a new player bg`s are easier even if u dont understand whats happening most stuff feels way slower there

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cuz its chaos on both sides 😄

random patrol
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def not to bad in shuffle I got 1900 on one druid and I wasn't even trying

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even if you go 3-3 like 2 or 3 shuffles its pretty easy

stray sigil
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dont think u understand how bad the average player is

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now imagine a new one

safe heart
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I mean bgs and arena isn't even the same thing tho

stray sigil
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ofc

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but u put that guy in arenas

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hes gonna 0-6 every lobby

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unless someone one shots someone ib opener on his team

safe heart
#

Yeah I guess I just assume he can spam queue and 3-3 vendor by heal botting

stray sigil
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have u been in the mordor

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dps dont know how to do dmg

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and healers dont know how to heal

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i did shuffle as mw to gear ww

random patrol
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warlocks that do 2 mil dam then die

stray sigil
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and like games are 80-% damp every time

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cuz y have ppl doing 500k dps in 2025

native horizon
native horizon
safe heart
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Yeah but I assumed he wanted to learn too

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U could probably afk blitz and get it done

native horizon
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yeah exactly, well not as heal but ye he dont know what to do in general but he follows my calls if i say stay there.. he goes there and he presses his buttons. enemies on this cr arent much better so he lifes atleast for a while

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i dont even understand the mmr in blitz

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i dont think i ever played my rog in blitz i dont remember but still started on 2,4 mmr

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and i gained and lost 400 mmr for the first few games. but on my other chars its usally like 200 mmr

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but he never lost rating yet if we lost.. blitz is just rating gift

young saffron
#

quick question, im very new to feral and i was wondering if its worth uses shred to generate combo points when my brutal slash is on cd or just spam moonfire and rake even if their bleeds are up

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i could do all 3 but i was just wondering cuz it gets a bit confusing sometimes

stray sigil
random patrol
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took half the night off got eye doctor tomorrow rip

vagrant coral
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I hate that I can't see DR in Midnight PVP

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just a bunch of "guess the 16 seconds"

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T_T;

random patrol
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there should be a dr setting under combat

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whether its working or not Idk

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currenty tied to arena frames instead of nameplates

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cant really get good tests cause trinkets are giving op stats anyway and prob wont see anything new until next week

halcyon siren
# native horizon i rly think as a new player bg`s are easier even if u dont understand whats happ...

I agree with this. I also think it's easier to boost ppls confidence in a bg. In df I tried 2s with my gf and we got stuck at 1750 because it was like monotonous and the games and their learning opportunities sort of blend together.

She wanted to try again this year so we did blitz and she liked it a lot more, at first she wanted 10 wins for legion appearance, then 1800 for classic wow pvp set, and then we were close to enchant etc,

Blitz is really friendly for super new to pvp players

edgy basin
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pvp feels 1000% better when it isnt being super optimized

random patrol
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dr tracker is coming its supposed t be implemented already again stuff is bugged as f on beta so I havent tested it but its attached to the nameplates

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a lot of stuff is not finished tldr beta but mid kind of bad

narrow willow
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Im actually enjoying it

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Now slowly to SS and later hopefully 3s once i learn more arenas, will see

edgy basin
#

Was RBGs MMR fixed? I remember in season 1 of TWW you could get so high in rank so fast it wasn’t going to matter later

tardy hare
#

what do you mean with it wasnt going to matter later

halcyon siren
#

yeah idk what exactly the problem you're identifying is man,

native horizon
#

first games*

livid wasp
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why is prot pala allowed to be so overpowered

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like good luck facing one in skirm

native horizon
#

thats why he got a healspot in SS xD but they changed it to prot v prot pal only.. i hate these lobbys

tardy hare
#

they reverted that again

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i think

livid wasp
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they have way too much utility

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makes no fucking sense

native horizon
#

i always say the same about ret! xD but they arent that good.. i mean they feel stronger than they are.

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magic bop into bubble without any cooldown always tilts me

livid wasp
#

ret doesnt have the additional bubbles

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like im quing shuffle and I keep facing this same idiotic prot pala and destro lock

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skirms*

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and its so fucking broken

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beat him twice in a row now since I didnt get clueless teammates

native horizon
livid wasp
#

I dont know what its called but the bubble that spawns the npc that casts it

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and it's stopped when you cc the npc

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and he has two fucking charges on it

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then theres loh

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then theres sac

native horizon
#

Thats prot bubble ye

livid wasp
#

of course there is the regular bop too

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he has stuns too of course

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of course he has two kicks

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such a broken spec

tropic schooner
#

The most broken spec to mankind, dominating every bracket in the game winning any tourney... It's prot pala

livid wasp
#

in an environment against two dps yes

wanton ridge
#

I had found a bug that allowed me to colorize nameplates per-mob last week, they fixed in this weeks build :o

#

if it had stayed, then you would have had to cast a spell on every mob you wanted a diff color, totally not cursed (but ppl would have done it lol)

grand mesa
#

Unforch

wanton ridge
#

That guy is right though, better report and fix those bugs and we might end up with getting the real thing (maybe)

native horizon
#

yoo btw bugs

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the pvp talent where u spawn the stars on the ground that knock ppl up

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that should trigger on starfall

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also triggers if u use incarn

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somebody noticed ?

safe heart
#

Puzzle next season you play bm hunter for m+, we grab folt and I know a prot warrior, I stay mw, We blast to title yes?

grand mesa
stray sigil
#

enji doesnt know midnight will be ww's time to shine

safe heart
#

Mw is huge

stray sigil
halcyon siren
#

man shuffle is so boring as dps

#

29min queue and like 30percent of the lobbies or more are some bottomfrag dps going 0-6

#

18k with fort

random patrol
#

sub 400k dps players to

native horizon
#

means u always got 4-2 without much effort

random patrol
#

have not replicated 97 percent of current ui in midnight

limpid birch
#

does anyone play R druid in bg blitz? I feel like I run oom so fast

random patrol
#

just crap class design the expac so far though

edgy basin
native horizon
#

i think thats a druid prob in general atm ^^ i dont play Rdruid but if i see some in blitz they need to take a drink quite early

random patrol
#

@edgy basin not hard most stuff is still possible only thing missing is dr and that's built in

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well cooldown tracking but they will prob add tha to arena frame soon

edgy basin
#

God plz no lol

native horizon
#

i would honestly enjoy a pvp like the old awc times

edgy basin
#

Leave some things flow normally

native horizon
#

without tracking everything

#

made it more interesting

random patrol
#

nah they add all the stuff just watch

stray sigil
#

i mean

edgy basin
#

Tracking everything is just bad as hell it’s what made wow PvP die

stray sigil
#

even back in cata whi i assume

random patrol
#

prob wont be able to track your team mates though

stray sigil
#

is old days for u

#

omnibar was used

edgy basin
#

I’m sure he means “when ppl don’t use all the addons”

native horizon
#

even in legion awc was without all these stuff

edgy basin
#

I remember BC lol

stray sigil
edgy basin
stray sigil
#

the stopwatch thing stopped in wod

edgy basin
#

It was more limited

native horizon
#

i never played without cuz i started in wotlk and we already got alot stuff with addons

random patrol
#

in fact I predict 95 percent of stuff being added eventually blizz wants to make game a lot like it is now on live though your not getting mes ui levels of course

stray sigil
#

mes weakaura so poggers for the game

edgy basin
#

PvP being a “who tracks better” game is so bad though

stray sigil
#

i mean

random patrol
#

I don't bother with it myself but to each their own

stray sigil
#

even pre addon bcon that was still a thing

#

idk whats this argument or w.e

#

pol always tracked shit

random patrol
#

I use like 3 addons to help me play cause my vision is failing

#

so eh

edgy basin
#

Now what they could improve is what is showed

#

But don’t be tracking every cd for gods sakes

random patrol
#

course icon recolor isn't an addon but it helps to

edgy basin
#

I saw a dude play and he was tracking every cd from every player was nuts

native horizon
#

u guys saw kalvish`s ui? damn that looks so shit but it works for him

random patrol
#

I wouldn't "worry" either way atm they can't even get nameplates to not be a meme so prob won't see the above mentioned stuff until midway through the expac

native horizon
#

my ui is kinda.. clean i would say i dont track this much

edgy basin
#

I’m on the camp of: all you should see from your enemy is what buffs he has up (the icons should be visible) and the debuffs

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Well and hp of course

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Cds is too much

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DR too much

native horizon
random patrol
#

I just use platynator on beta fixes most of the problems

#

having nameplates go into the floor randomly was anoying as f

native horizon
#

i would be fine with every change that brings more player into pvp but i think tracking everything wont catch the casual player and a dead bracket is always clunky

random patrol
#

pvp is a meme until next week anyway cause dam trinkets give 4 diget stats

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just one shot on beta

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good thing its a beta

edgy basin
#

I thought trinkets were fixed?

random patrol
#

they could of been but last time I played sat they weren't

#

outside of instance pvp they work fine but org dueling is meme so

edgy basin
#

The 1 build I wanna try for real is just DotC bear with HoTW see how it feels

random patrol
#

I just use starfall boomy kill people in seconds on beta

native horizon
#

Thats true yea

#

Alot of times
Well in lower cr were i play
Ppl dont understand how to play with Rogs
They always got handycaped from the ppl in their team

halcyon siren
#

What mmr

native horizon
#

2.3

halcyon siren
#

Hmm, interesting, guess I haven't noticed it

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Same mmr give or take 100

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Rogue seems strong in shuffle because lots of synergistic classes seem to be spamming the queue

native horizon
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I cant count how often of saw assa rog start burst and hunter thinks
Time to Interrupt a cast with scatter 🤣🤣🤣

halcyon siren
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Bro it's literally hell

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Losing feral frenzy and buffed rake

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To some animal

native horizon
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Or random paly blinds

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Not even Interrupting anything

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Just press it for the stats or something

edgy basin
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That’s the real PvP

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Chaos

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When you throw the sink and hope

grand mesa
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u guys realize we've come full circle right. gladiatorlosa has existed forever and people always said "losa is bad u lose all awareness don't play it if u want to get better". then WA's evolved into mes's most recent release post-AWC, which is all TTS saying the words of abilities, which is just gladiatorlosa

between that and omnibar folks have always been tracking CDs. it's just tracking more shit like procs and probably telling u stuff more obviously.

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currenty midnight doesn't show icons for when people press offensives/defensives like bigdebuffs does on nameplates. between losing bigdebuffs style icons and omnibar, we'll see way less than we ever did pre-SL weakaura meta