you really shouldnt believe everything someone says on reddit
#pvp
livid wasp
it's a shit ton harder than feral
you are a caster you have to take so much more stuff into account
more buttons
wintry jackal
Idk I feel like everyone told me that about mage too
And then I play fire after feral and I laugh cus there’s so many tools to play the game
wintry jackal
You might just not like rot feral, we’re def the support dps this szn idk
Have you Q’d jungle with mm?
livid wasp
I am playing deva
livid wasp
feels a lot worse than feral though
idk how people survive and do so much dmg
I do my opener burst and it takes max half of their hp
im almost full green but im 719 pvp its not that low
safe heart
Folt I may be able to queue tn
tardy hare
im almost full green but im 719 pvp its not that low
Thats kinda low though
Anything before weapon is just no dam
Or 4 set
wintry jackal
Rip
Lowkey I kinda feel bad for anyone who heals in PvP
This meta just seems super stressful lmao
clear pulsar
And then I play fire after feral and I laugh cus there’s so many tools to play t...
Yeah but this becomes a situation where you can consider difficulty from 2 sides
Like are you saying fire has so many tools so it's easier for that?
stray sigil
isnt fire even more braindead now
with the proc that lets u just spam pyro without having to weave in blasts and pheonixlol
so u sit there hitting 1 button for 12s
safe heart
@wintry jackal I'll probably be at my pc in like 3.5 hours ish
safe heart
so u sit there hitting 1 button for 12s
Where do I sign tf up
stray sigil
halcyon siren
I played dev s1 and it was the freeest easiest thing I have ever played
I understand it's worse now
Because of shroud change
But I still think about that time fondly
livid wasp
how is it so easy
im just dead insta
and hit like a wet noodle
im using star to boost disintegrate and insta breath
and dragonrage ofc
doesnt feel like the burst has more than that
halcyon siren
Idk dude could just be nerfed in s1 you were immune to slows had 3 schools so uptime was insane 2 charge shield wall that makes u immune to kicks
While 80percent slowing 3 ppl
I just remember it being extremely easy and fun
Immune to every melee character
With am aoe stun that was impossible to miss
halcyon siren
It actually sorta feels like it's from a different game sometimes
Like it plays like nothing else
If the damage is still good I don't see how it could ever be bad
Also like sleepwalk functions as an insanely lame microstun
That takes way too long to break
Prob because disint is a channel and therefore technically a dot on the backend I guess
safe heart
wtb tank for 13 eco
tiny oar
would if i wasnt a wagie girl
random patrol
it's also addictive
random patrol
I need to find a early 90s crt to hook my atari 2600 up to so I can play pacman while qing solo shuffle
tardy hare
Why did no one tell me
sorry we said this 15 years ago
clear pulsar
Yeah idk dude WW is op @stray sigil
late wraith
Minecraft is fun
You building yourself a little cottage out of pink and white cherry wood?
viscid remnant
hi
livid wasp
hi
tropic schooner
Minecraft is fun
Minecraft is fun especially modded
grand mesa
Yeah playing some rpg mod
viscid remnant
🔥
grand mesa
You building yourself a little cottage out of pink and white cherry wood?
I made a big hole and now a sky bridge
livid wasp
minecraft is fun when watching forsen speedrun it
lime light
@viscid remnant what play today big
Minion run maybe yes or not yes
Or the stick 🍡 abusing not very cool no
viscid remnant
Idk lul
minions is abit boring idk
iam rn still on wander
but this league a bit boring
shy snow
minion is unc spec, thus good
stray sigil
Yeah idk dude WW is op <@142673512987885568>
show mmr pig
maiden viper
just got back after a decent break and YIKES rdruid is rough
velvet quest
Rough to fight against cause it’s way too strong
maiden viper
then I'm def doing something wrong lmao
both my druids trail the other healers by ~200 cr
primal onyx
What craftables do guardian druids typically want for pvp?
livid wasp
deva fucking dies instantly
tropic schooner
zechey is this a bit
I gave up asking it
late wraith
like if it is a bit, it's been going on for a while now so can you really call it a bit anymore
if it's all you really do
livid wasp
I dont know what youre talking about
late wraith
like are you being sincere about dev being hard
harder than feral
or is it a bit. i can't tell
livid wasp
I am
I die insta to ranged
melees you can kite
all casters in general are a lot harder than feral
livid wasp
????????
stray sigil
ranged is not harder than melee
livid wasp
it is
stray sigil
go play ww and tell me playing ranged is hard mode
late wraith
you're hurting fuji zechey
you're his boy and you're saying dev is hard you're hurting him
late wraith
he tried to say i did this somehow he's all bent out of shape
stray sigil
u prob did somehow
late wraith
probably
stray sigil
some old ppl voodoo
velvet quest
@stray sigil rng sends his regards
clear pulsar
stray sigil
https://tenor.com/view/ren-honest-reaction-gif-25675317
ur malding i kno u are
safe heart
I like playing shadow priest cuz I cannot ever make a mistake due to dispersion
Also I can borrow my teammates health bars and make it their fault we lose
clear pulsar
I'm only malding that I cant trade from emulator to switch
viscid remnant
stray sigil
late wraith
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703989285828689953/1435651747111764059/To...
lol
livid wasp
like as feral when you face dk and he uses ams
no problem
as deva? free bubble all the time
late wraith
you can eat through that
late wraith
yeah like it's a swap unless you and your teammate are in cds for sure and it definitely makes them a bit of a rough target but you can pretty easily get them to use it on someone else
random patrol
time to push 3 druids at the same time I need to hurry up and finish these 1600 pushes so I can push to duelist doing 8 toons gets annoying
#firstworldproblems
velvet quest
takes a full disintegrate
does it keep channeling through ams or does it stop after 1st tick?
livid wasp
think it channeled
tropic schooner
go play ww and tell me playing ranged is hard mode
ngl WW is prolly one of the easiest melees imo
especially if youa rent used to it
stray sigil
wintry jackal
@stray sigil what is the coolest (aesthetically) monk animation and model wise
stray sigil
<@142673512987885568> what is the coolest (aesthetically) monk animation and mod...
u mean race?
prob strike
and then idk race
maybe orc female or seomthing
but next xpac if u like purely liek visuals shadopan fist kinda goes hard
wintry jackal
yeah
meant race
going to level one in time runner for class mount
dude these capes may be the most heat xmog item we've ever got idk
i hate that rogues have to be night elves, i like male night elf but the male night elf dual weild animation makes me cringe
stray sigil
ww is 2h now so maybe u can play night elf male
tropic schooner
<@142673512987885568> what is the coolest (aesthetically) monk animation and mod...
male panda
velvet quest
i hate that rogues have to be night elves, i like male night elf but the male ni...
nelf isnt really important if ur sub atm, also i think theyre removing a lot of the benefits that nelf gives outlaw/assa in midnight
wintry jackal
nelf isnt really important if ur sub atm, also i think theyre removing a lot of ...
oh wow, for druid it's huge for rake restun
troy
velvet quest
oh wow, for druid it's huge for rake restun
Yeah it’s just that dance is a dmg amp and allows you to stun multiple times and it gets cdr down to 30 ish seconds so one meld cheap on a 2m cd usually does nothing unless its like desperation to live. And ig you could play subterfuge allowing the meld to enable you to stun multiple times but it’s a little buggy and still it’s no dmg amp and shorter duration and much longer cd
velvet quest
But as assa the act of restealthing gives you the empowered garrote silences and u don’t have any cdr so as assa nelf is giga
wintry jackal
yeah
i caved
just made a female nelf named folty
rip
i won't play it anyway
feral or die
i'll just have it so my friends can stop asking me to reroll
velvet quest
nelf still prob best race for rog isnt it
Orc is bis for sub cause it makes u way harder to kill in the sub rogue mirror matches and those games count for 100 mmr cause if u lose to another sub rogue ur on the verge of menty b
velvet quest
i'll just have it so my friends can stop asking me to reroll
Play it once, sandbag hard, be like is this comp good or do you prefer me on feral
viscid remnant
Lul
wintry jackal
Play it once, sandbag hard, be like is this comp good or do you prefer me on fer...
Only thing that looks enticing on rogue is garrote
But I like clone
livid wasp
I played with a 2.4k feral and zenlyn on my deva still felt hard
velvet quest
Ur also basically immune to roots and sheeps and disarms so u can never really get removed from the game at least. Even tho rogue feels an expansion ahead into some matchups
stray sigil
Ur also basically immune to roots and sheeps and disarms so u can never really g...
some
velvet quest
how can u have class envy when u play ww monk most broken melee in game
velvet quest
Me doing a bit or Fuji coping? Hard to say. Ww is so good that bigdam rerolled from enh to it
wintry jackal
My buddy was saying it’s actually very immobile rn but idk if that’s why it’s bad or he is stuck in legion mindset
He was 2500 in legion lol
On ww
velvet quest
It is extremely immobile yeah it doesn’t have the tools to stick to a lot of targets
wintry jackal
That’s a bummer the class flavor of ww is really cool
velvet quest
Ww lost mobility over time and probably every other class gained mobility or cc to make it harder
Ww was my main when I started wow but it hasn’t felt enjoyable this expansion at all, even though they’ve added certain things that feel good it doesn’t translate into the gameplay enough
wintry jackal
All leather melee specs lead to rogue 
random patrol
mechagnome monk
stray sigil
My buddy was saying it’s actually very immobile rn but idk if that’s why it’s ba...
roll is kinda ass
cuz it doesnt actually put u on the target
immobile, glass cannon and like dmg is fine but not as crazy as it was last ssn comparatively
velvet quest
roll puts u on the target u just have to use clash disable and rop first
and then ur right there
safe heart
Where's keefers when you need him
stray sigil
Is shado pan the play this szn?
yes
apparently both playable
but i think sp better
safe heart
@grand mesa if you proc ascendance while playing 3min ascendance as ele, do you get the 3min perks
livid wasp
I cant win as deva
lunar sphinx
i don't htink DRE procs get the extension of duration tho
They do for ele
grand mesa
are u sure
what am i missing here
specced into pre eminence for the haste+duration increase. baseline DRE proc is 6s yes? toggled back and forth between talents to see if DRE duration changed
doesn't seem to go to 9s
livid wasp
feral is the best pvp spec
all other classes kneel before feral
you can kill 1v2 if you play correctly as feral
tardy hare
Rings and neck
tardy hare
And all the other pieces that can go optimal stats
Idk just copy paste what they do on murlok.io
stray sigil
craft them with the blue heraldry
craft w.e piece u dont take from tier + like boots
or waist
the difference between bluecrafted jewelry and epic
high tundra
why blue
stray sigil
why blue
well u have the mats u said anyways
the honor version of the crafted is fine until u can upgrade
usually would upgrade jewelry kinda last
high tundra
ah okay
stray sigil
cuz low value going from blue > epic
high tundra
📝
stray sigil
and unless ur like one of the niche specs that hard stack vers
the conq ring/necks
are worse
so might aswell craft and wait
stray sigil
📝
also can put elemental focus on ur blue rings
just need to have 1 socket with a gem and ur good to go
safe heart
Fuji is sp Chad class like ww or whats good bruv
high tundra
how do i get a socket in pvp
safe heart
Dwarf shadow priest ???
stray sigil
how do i get a socket in pvp
5k honor + 3 vicious bloodstone on a vendor
stray sigil
Fuji is sp Chad class like ww or whats good bruv
depends
do u play shadowplay ?
then you are not chad
safe heart
What the halibut is a warlock
stray sigil
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/675862320957751306/1263054875789623316/eq...
realistically only need 2 sockets
1 for ur gem so elemental focus works
and 1 for precog/5% dr in cc gem
after that is just cherry on top
high tundra
gg...
happens
im only looking to pvp for fun anyway
i hit max level in lemix but idk why i dont have any draw to play it
what does this icon mean ive never seen it in my life
stray sigil
means u played wit h them before
tardy hare
and u wanna upgrade them anyways later on right
Bruh conq is uncapped
You are full gear in 1 queue sesh
Why would you spend time to make blue gear
You want to spam socket for precog anyway
stray sigil
You are full gear in 1 queue sesh
he says hes doing bgs
hes not rly gonna gear that fast
livid wasp
full gear in 1 session sure
safe heart
Maybe full gear in one uh deez but not in 1 sesh
clear pulsar
im only looking to pvp for fun anyway
Just get some pve jewelry
high tundra
i have some
tardy hare
As long as your session includes like 20 wins and you do 2 world quests you're like full epic
halcyon siren
gg
grand mesa
Beer and shuffle night tn I think
stray sigil
lookin good
stray sigil
2500
drifting kraken
whoooo! hit 1800 got my appearance go me!
stray sigil
high tundra
2500
do rated (solo) bgs get way worse the later in the evening it is or is every game going to be a struggle
stray sigil
no clue i hjave never qd that bracket
halcyon siren
do rated (solo) bgs get way worse the later in the evening it is or is every gam...
depends what region and timezone you're on
high tundra
eu uk
halcyon siren
but generally every game is going to be a struggle, yes. rare will be the game where you can donothing and still win
high tundra
i didnt start queueing ranked gmes until like 10pm and immediately had someone lose their mind and afk spamming chat
halcyon siren
especially if you're in a lower mmr bracket
high tundra
im in superlow probably
halcyon siren
the babyragers and give-uppers have largely seemed equally likely to happen at all times of day, all mmr brackets that i've played in
that's my 2c
esp on maps with limited come-back-ability (gilneas)
safe heart
Can I bring proper villain out of retirement ?
I used to make ppl roll 100 and if they got less than 50 I threw the round
On my resto shaman
halcyon siren
most sane shuffler
clear pulsar
My pet theory is zechey is a paid actor by enji
So that dgpvp has one person more unlikable
random patrol
I just get high then q shuffle
safe heart
It only works if you're a healer
astral rune
I did this and fucked up my mmr lmao
safe heart
i dont care about my mmr
halcyon siren
My pet theory is zechey is a paid actor by enji
As far as tinfoil hat theories go this one is pretty fun.
safe heart
im not getting paid much
tropic schooner
im not getting paid much
you are pying zechey
livid wasp
I still have no clue what makes you say that
safe heart
I am unlikable
high tundra
what
hasty raven
Whats good feral 3v3 comp? Jungle and destro feral with priest?
livid wasp
yes
livid wasp
he wont stay for long
hasty raven
Im the new cat? 🙁
open spoke
Destro feral VW is toxic
high tundra
For honor?
u get conquest for your first win in any mode i thought
clear pulsar
Yeah you can see by hovering the reward preview on the game mode
clear pulsar
high tundra
every bg the enemy always seems 10x more organised
why does thiis guy on murlok io have twice as much versatility on his cloak than me
clear pulsar
It's just an armory bug
If you look at your own toon on armory it'll show double too
stray sigil
tropic schooner
did rip ever do initial dmg?
livid wasp
nah but idk guess it means it doesnt make someone stop capping
tropic schooner
yes dots never do
think it still doesnt cap but one of the weird(er) ones is crackling jade lightning
wintry jackal
Destro feral VW is toxic
💯
livid wasp
me when im dealing with a lock and see a rogue capping and I just go rip him
halcyon siren
ain't that the truth brotherman
tropic schooner
could it be that you are better at feral
halcyon siren
to be fair I think he might actually just be correct here, feral with incarn has more 1vX potential than dev with dragonrage i think
esp with eternity shroud change
could prob still do it with dev depending on cds though,
because there is no way full cd rogue lock loses to full cd feral either so there was a discrepency either way
livid wasp
im always correct
stray sigil
lucid dragon
question: if i get 1.8k rating in battlegound blitz does that mean i can get all the old classic pvp sets?
clear pulsar
I think it's class-specific
clear pulsar
Stupid duck
tropic schooner
I read un and my brain negated the question
safe heart
tropic schooner
sick gear
safe heart
thanks just got it
lucid dragon
neat, ty @clear pulsar and @tropic schooner!
random patrol
this chair though
halcyon siren
Yo is ww gunna be fun in midnight... I'm legit brainrot fixated on playing it randomly
Need the expert opinion
stray sigil
looks a lot better than it is now
tardy hare
1 death = delete
random patrol
I hit level 50 in remix that is all
tardy hare
Thank you for the update
halcyon siren
Midnight waiting room...
viscid remnant
this chair though
🔥
viscid remnant
grand mesa
U can always tell when a chronically online wow discorder is yapping cause they always use the ( ) for the punchline
(I do it too)
clear pulsar
viscid remnant
🤯
wintry jackal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703989285828689953/1437298527171645510/im...
Mm 
Enjoy globaling ppl (let’s jungle)
grand mesa
I’m still figuring out the buttons
Every global is good now I’m figuring out what’s gooderer
wintry jackal
May I interest you in an aimed shot
grand mesa
iuve become that guy
bro
the dad gamer that plays MM hunter and just enjoys doing random BGs
livid wasp
boring life
wintry jackal
Create something
safe heart
why exactly do ppl care about doing beta for midnight
random patrol
I do but Im am/was an addon dev
halcyon siren
Because it's fun (:
I beta test every year because I want to read the quests in a no rush way mostly. I usually rush to cap when it goes live and don't feel afforded that extra time
stray sigil
why exactly do ppl care about doing beta for midnight
just log see if ur spec blows
dont do anything else gg
random patrol
1 hour 21 minute q 3 cancels in a row
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
and I logged off that toon
livid wasp
there is never any rush on release, nothing to do for ages anyway
I didnt even waste money on epic edition and still was bored
viscid remnant
grand mesa
why exactly do ppl care about doing beta for midnight
Beta and ptr is just fun for me. We are pretty dry on changes when the season is going so I enjoy seeing weekly builds and adjustments and tuning
random patrol
good time to test new ui stuff now that combat addons are neutered and wa is gone
meanwhile Im trying to get my addons to work with new retrictions............
halcyon siren
there is never any rush on release, nothing to do for ages anyway
I have big plans this time around and will be rushing. I got rich this expac and if I had been more focused and knew what I was doing I would have made 100m instead of 20m probably, I will be leveling probably 25 characters professions this time so ye,
livid wasp
I still dunno how people make money
maybe ill be able to make some after 3 days
still
gathering profs or some shit
or how did you make money this xpac
halcyon siren
I gathered for 500k in the uh, early access (8-9 hours)
And then I just floundered and made a blacksmith, enchanter, which gave a lot early, just making stuff and disenchanting
Eventually expanded to every profession
Made a lot of money making mirror powder, mana oil, chaos potions,
All at level 2 and sometimes 3,
Then I began making every crafter profession,
Made millions doing crafting orders for inscription weapons and blacksmith weapons because the resourcefulness procs on like an inscription staff could give you like 7 materials all worth 5k each
Or more
Plus the 3-10k tip
In midnight if it plays out the same way as tww did I will ve starting with 5 enchanters concentration crafting and 5 scribes to create every facet of making missives
Because missives power all crafting in the game and the more steps you do yourself in the crafting chain the higher your margins
So if you : thuamaturge prospect materials into ore, prospect your own ores, crush your own gems, make your own vials, and then craft potions with your sourced vials your margins are very high and its a high traffic item
I never did an activity that was under 80k an hour basically
With mirror powder in s1 I would buy materials off ah, craft them for 10mins qhile in queue, list product on auction house
And profit would like 12percent, id do 3k batches, make 35k for 15min active time
Stuff like that.
I was just dorn idling anyways
I did a lot of thaunatirgy with an addon and that literally just printed money
For being afk
I would buy gloom Chitten or mycobloom and just transmute it into other shit and the low value stuff I'd transmute again
Its basically impossible to not make money doing the profession mini game it's by design that you make money if you engage with it
I started out knowing nothing and my only goal was to not have to buy a token every season to play the damn game
And it just poured in
Made and spent 19m, have 1m left, people even now still want crafts so I'll catch a few for 5k or whatever now and then
For clicking 1 button
I bought every item on the cash shop that I wanted, 2 auction house brutos etc for me n my gf who did it all with me
It's like you said, fuck all else to do for the first 2 weeks anyways
viscid remnant
halcyon siren
Nah not really, I started out literally just listening to wowprofessions.com guys guides
He's literally right
In everything he said in every guide
Biggest trick is the more you engage with it the more you make, so like later on, I ended up making like ~ 10 enchanting alts
And they would on average twice a week make 7 enchants that all sold for 1.5k profit each week, so 20k a week x10, 800k a month if I was diligent
But I had 1 enchanter that I bought authority of the depths for early on in yhe expac
For 200k
And that character Made on avg 14 enchants per week at 10k profit each
livid wasp
asdasdasdsda
I wonder whats the best single prof to make money with
at the start
maybe ill make enchanters too
halcyon siren
At the very very start? Like day 0 or prerelease?
I think if you were gunna log on and game for 10 hours and wanted to make the most gold possible in that ten hours it would be mining/herb or skinninh/tailoring depending on farms.
Skimming early expac was 100k/hr or more for weeks and weeks
But requires lame group farms
Same with tailoring
Idk for me it will be inscription/jc I think. Or inscription enchanting.
halcyon siren
I mean I stopped farming pretty quickly and just alt armied most stuff
In tww you only needed to be 71
To do stuff
And you got to 71 leveling your prof lol
<@&114146878353833984>
viscid remnant
🤯
livid wasp
yeah idk
maybe ill check some guide
I bet there will be one after some while of beta being around
so youll have 5 chars with enchanting and inscription?
halcyon siren
Yeah that's my plan
livid wasp
and some char to farm herbs with?
halcyon siren
1 character to disenchant greens, 4 characters to just use weekly concentration to make t3 enchants with t2 materials
For consistent returns all expac long
livid wasp
idk exactly how the profession works so
halcyon siren
Ye basically u get a bar that recharges to 1000 in 4 days
Which let's u make a t3 enchant with t2 materials 4-9 times depending on rng procs
Do it 2x/week and u make easy thoughtless money
livid wasp
isnt it a bit pricey to lvl it up at start tho
lime light
my god
halcyon siren
In the grand scheme of things yes,
lime light
that used to be EPgrove player vs player talk
halcyon siren
It is
lime light
now its some penis soking professions
viscid remnant
halcyon siren
But shrug, return on investment is fast
livid wasp
could start with like 2 enchanters idk and collect the herbs myself
doesnt inscription use herbs too
halcyon siren
Yeah if I just wanted to make like 1m I would be mining/herb for a few days and then decide what to do
Like I leveled my warrior from 76 to 80 via mining
And made 600k
Which funded my 2 enchanter, tailor, blacksmith which is what I started with
halcyon siren
Yeah.
Not even like way slower either honestly, like maybe 2x as slow max but u make stacks
livid wasp
hope it will still be good money after early access
halcyon siren
It was good money for about a month,
Then I switched him from mining to leatherworking because I didn't wanna farm anymorev
And I had a few 40k/hr bad rng sessions
halcyon siren
But 1month in it was still avg 60k/hr
To just mine
It was aight
If thaumaturgy functions ANYTHING like it does right now, in midnight (alchemy tech tree)
I would heavily consider alchemy and do thaumaturgy
It was extremely good afk printing and might still be
livid wasp
instead of enchanting?
halcyon siren
Enchantinh is passive and good for alts
Thaumaturgy is active and you can spam it
Every time you click the button you make gold but takes longer to level than enchanting does
Like filling out thr tech tree rakes longer
In short, every profession has interplay with other professions now and the more parts of the process you cover the more money you can make. Alchemy interplays with mining, jewelcrafting, herbalism, blacksmithing interplays with mining, herbalism, leatherworkinb and inscription, etc etc etc
I think if you're gunna pick up 1 profession to go on your main with engineering it should be inscription (I will be doing this on my engineering main)
livid wasp
not alchemy+
halcyon siren
Inscription this expac was the best crafting profession easily, makes weapons for 16+ specs
So every time you're in trade you can get random gold injections
livid wasp
oh kay
maybe its the case in midnight too will see
I thought it was blacksmithing that made most weapons
halcyon siren
Every caster, every druid spec, all 1 hunter spec, even ele resto shaman want to craft staffs to save crests
Blacksmithing is my #2 but the reason inscription is better is because in tww
You can make every weapon with 90 points
So by the time sparks are out
You can make staves and offhand
And make every caster weapon that ppl want
And agility staves for hunter druid
Blacksmithing you needed to level daggers, 2h/1h sword, maces, axes
All separately
livid wasp
okay maybe inscri then
halcyon siren
I went dagger first on my Blacksmith and just couldn't make 2hs for a couple weeks, eventually I got there, and it generates a lot
Biggest benefit is with inscription once (and the reason I will have 5) is because a: on my main I will max staff crafting before anybody has 2 sparks and b: after you max staff crafting you can start filling the other tech trees
Because in tww you have: cipher, ink milling, greenwood crafting, and ink crafting,
And all of those are 'buy herbs from ah, mill pigments, make inks, make ciphers'
And every stage makes moneyb
So after you max staff you can max milling, and then just buy herbs, mill ink, sell for profit while afk in dorn
(The reason I'm going to do 5 scribes is because I am going to rush each tech tree on individual scribes, so I can do all steps of the process, mill, make inks, make ciphers, make missives, make staffs)
But ya my main will be inscription engineering and I will have an early alt with mining and herb to fund my scribes, blacksmith and engineer
With just 1 scribe crafting staffs on a popular server you will make good money over the expac though, my crafting order profit from inscription is probably 2m by itself of the 20m I made this expac
For the most afk thing ever, msg person, click 1 button
Maybe even 3m honestly
viscid remnant
U are playing poe val ?
livid wasp
yea idk what ill do maybe I copy you
halcyon siren
U are playing poe val ?
I kinda fizzled out unfortunately
I couldn't figure out the puzzle I was working on in pob and I had a few hardcore deaths (been playing hc because my only friend is)
So I never made it out of acts
viscid remnant
🤯
clear pulsar
halcyon siren
Me grinding bronze yeah
viscid remnant
woeful sandal
is hmt still > tauren for boomie ?
tropic schooner
Inscription this expac was the best crafting profession easily, makes weapons fo...
Highly doubt that is true for zechey
I don't think he has the patience to spam trade and deal with potential idiots
Also server matters for that no clue where he is on
lime light
@surreal heron monkaTOS?
woeful sandal
is hmt still > tauren for boomie ?
anybody ?
livid wasp
I wonder who actually falls for those
wanton ridge
if you're not playing night elf what are you even doing
chrome panther
grand mesa
safe heart
Sounds like a good deal
But you probably never use ns on cyclone
Oh wait doesn't it have 2 charges now
lime light
@viscid remnant did u get anything nondog shit from that tree
wanton ridge
But usually NS is allocated to lore a bit
i didnt know you could do that lmao, I'm a dummy
me trying to get ancient lore up and running hardcasting it 
viscid remnant
<@247410790083198976> did u get anything nondog shit from that tree
a few decent items but not really
best i got was karui chopper with fractured t1 flat phys mod
0 divs from currency
lime light
ye like an item i got few decent 6L body armours
but currency / unique only garbage
max i got 1 chaos orb
viscid remnant
its decent for trying to fish for fracture bases
lime light
ye i guess it is
but everyone and their mother got HH / poor HH / mageblood from it
xD
safe heart
Idek what lore is
safe heart
Ah yeah fuck that ability
viscid remnant
❤️🩹
halcyon siren
Tierset > haste proc trinket > crafts > offsets > cc clearing trinket last
Conquest is uncapped so thats what I would do now.
safe heart
I would get two green trinkets first and then replace them ad my very last 2 things personally
halcyon siren
I would get two green trinkets first and then replace them ad my very last 2 thi...
The proc tribket is significantly upgraded from green to purple
stray sigil
does this apply for precog gem
nop
safe heart
Gear is a crutch
livid wasp
why cant they make it so that you cant see win-loss
it's just bullshit
I could just queue
without having to think about having a shit win-loss
stray sigil
why cant they make it so that you cant see win-loss
theres an addon or a weakaura that does that
fyi
quasi mulch
One issue with rdruid in midnight alpha is with the reduction in our hots and removal of cenarion ward classes that can spellsteal/dispell our hots auto win
random patrol
dem icon recolors still working good
visual pumice
Hello PvP ppl! Is that long to get honor 80? Cause I wanted the bear form but I’m not a PvP guy
random patrol
Im not sure but quite a bit of playing best bet is a horde toon in epics prob
clear pulsar
Hello PvP ppl! Is that long to get honor 80? Cause I wanted the bear form but I’...
Yes
You wont get it from 0 in less than 1 year
visual pumice
Wtf ! And it never reset ?
clear pulsar
If you arent particularly interested in pvping and just have some spurts of grinding whenever your pve season dwindles or the NPC battleground comes up, it's gonna take a while
high tundra
dem icon recolors still working good
why are you red
livid wasp
livid wasp
aoe feral frenzy looks cool I guess
feral doesnt look much different
just easier to play in midnight
I hope unseen predator wont break cc
halcyon siren
Hello PvP ppl! Is that long to get honor 80? Cause I wanted the bear form but I’...
300 hrs probably
Could get it done in like 240 if you attack it with a LOT of alts and utilize a lot of weekly quests
For more efficient honour per hour
But either way it's 100s of hours sweating and more if you're sandbagging
Does shuffle healing give good honour? That might be a really good alternative if it's good honour
visual pumice
I don’t want to be a weight for my fellow PvP ppl
So sandbagging isn’t cool
But yeah maybe healing
halcyon siren
If comp stomp gives really good honour in midnight
It might be way more approachable
halcyon siren
So sandbagging isn’t cool
I mean man it's about your sanity. There are some tremendously frustrating or sweaty grinds in pvp and no sane person can be locked in for all of it.
I did 100 isle of conquest wins at like 10-30 percent alliance win rate with 10-15 min queues it's not possible to be locked in for that kind of grind so I promise your fellow pvp peeps will never think twice or hold it against you outside of rated game modes
livid wasp
I remember farming 60 AV losses for the frostwolf howler in wotlk, one insignia per loss
and yes horde never won out of those 60 times
need to have an insane mind for pvp
visual pumice
All that for a bear form lol
The honor lv I already get gonna be reset at midnight?
visual pumice
Ah! A good news!
clear pulsar
Mayo's best rate of honor level gain was 400 to 500 in 128 days but yeah that's not like 'I dont pvp and I just want bear form' time commitment
It's more like psychotically doing every daily bonus win on maybe multiple characters a day
halcyon siren
In midnight comp stomp might be a real boon to the 'I want 80' crowd
clear pulsar
Why's that?
halcyon siren
Perma comp stomp being released as its own mode
If it has the same honour per hour as current comp stomp it will streamline the process and take a pvp essentially out of it
halcyon siren
It's more like psychotically doing every daily bonus win on maybe multiple chara...
This is the real way though. Targeting the good weekly quests and daily wins and sweating/trying hard to carry/being an influential role will increase your honour per hour
livid wasp
I only kinda wanna know if my 1080 will be able to run the new zones fine or if it's gonna be like with k'aresh and 30 fps
tropic schooner
1080 in 2025 is crazy
I had both 1060 and 960 in my setup this year
1060 swapped out 3 weeks ago 960 I used for like 1-2 weeks while waiting
wintry jackal
feral doesnt look much different
There’s also 30 second ff which lines up with maim and tf
That will be huge p
livid wasp
yeah
but apart from that
same shit
just easier
I could buy a 5080 for the next 10 years but I just dont see a reason to buy it yet
viscid remnant
my 1080 died last year
was very sad
wouldve kept using probably still
depends how fps would be in counter strike
wintry jackal
I could buy a 5080 for the next 10 years but I just dont see a reason to buy it ...
Send it
safe heart
I mean a piece of tech that will last 10 years sounds like a good move all day everyday esp if you're using a 1060
Although I just upgraded from a 2060 to a 5060 and still get frame drops on big pulls lol
I fucking hate tech
livid wasp
but what if I buy 6080 when my gpu is 10 years old
safe heart
Also good but idk if you just keep waiting one more year then it'll be 10 years before you get a new one
halcyon siren
There’s also 30 second ff which lines up with maim and tf
Do you think 90sex incarn will be played
The pvers seem to think that the point isn't worth it for 30sec reduction
clear pulsar
Yeah I think for pve it doesnt add up unless there's one super busted 1m30 trinket
livid wasp
aoe frenzy and the shadow cat thingie makes feral sound fun for pve
no more having to mess around with bloodtalons too which was always kinda annoying
halcyon siren
No brutal slash
Idk i like feral rn and I've liked it in simpler versions but I'm more and more doomed on it as the beta progresses
Shred does no damage, regrowth does no healing,
Do half your button presses do 'nothing'
Just feels bad.
livid wasp
well its beta whatever
halcyon siren
Thing is, its not beta. It's also just how those spells have been for years now. Regrowth and shred do nothing right now, in the game, today. It's only 'okay' (ish) because there exists other spells that do do things, (heart of wild, nat vigil, brutal slash)
But they're removed
Shrug. I'm not optimistic but I guess we'll see. I just find it boring that shred is so little of the danage profile.
I have a hint of optimism though with them giga buffing melee auto attacks (another part of the kit that does effectively nothing)
So maybe 'filler' damage is on the radar
viscid remnant
but what if I buy 6080 when my gpu is 10 years old
if everything works just hold till you have to replace imo
tropic schooner
Thing is, its not beta. It's also just how those spells have been for years now....
yes cause the game is a lot more finisher/cd based
compared to like wotlk
rich crag
Going to try some balance pvp, any tips for talents or world pvp / 1v1 tips to think about? Also any strategy tips for the current status would be nice also.
random patrol
@high tundra cause red is better then blue
also cause its easier for me to see
the other color changes are for shits and giggles
stray sigil
Thing is, its not beta. It's also just how those spells have been for years now....
heres hoping the squish somehow makes the game like sl for hybrids
and ur heals do anything if ur not an enh
safe heart
Hybrid healing in SL was insane
lime light
@viscid remnant its time
halcyon siren
yes cause the game is a lot more finisher/cd based
Yeah, and it sucks when you strip back the abilities to wotlk levels but don't rebalance the damage profiles to be somewhere in the middle at least between wotlk and now. Otherwise, half of my button presses and all my autos feel like they're doing nothing.
Optimistic because it is just beta, and some of these classes are getting the attention and direction I'd like to see feral go,
But ye, I guess we see.
I'm still gunna play unless something weird happens,
Just might be trying it as balance if something doesn't happen witn feral
safe heart
Boo
halcyon siren
heres hoping the squish somehow makes the game like sl for hybrids
Yeah, I mean that's just it. Stormbringer eng and to a lesser extent ret are examples of really strong hybrid healing and Stormbringer enh doesn't even spam 'real' resources to do it
And they're not really super overbearing
Except ret ig but for other reasons
livid wasp
While the official release date is not yet final, datamining suggests a potential launch in February or March 2026.
so tww gonna be that short
halcyon siren
Yeah.
livid wasp
they better be revealing the launch date soon then
late wraith
so tww gonna be that short
They have been saying this about tww since it was announced this is not new information
@grand mesa you ready for our houses on December 2nd?
livid wasp
well at first I understood it will launch in june
or something
guess the 30 june it says is some absolute deadline
random patrol
combat felt slow on beta though that was with premade toon vs premade havent tested with geared copied toons yet
grand mesa
<@139195873224556545> you ready for our houses on December 2nd?
ofc
i want to see how many
neighborhoods we can be in
like a public and guild?
random patrol
note game is also balanced(not really yet) at round 90 on beta to
late wraith
Real money store decor im gonna be restoration hardwareing the place out
6000$ reclaimed wood table on wheels
livid wasp
holy fuck those sad people who will actually pay money to get decorations
tropic schooner
why sad
late wraith
late wraith
Zechey prob doesn’t have 1000 gold for the plot
livid wasp
like sure I did it as a kid in habbo hotel but I didnt know any better
tropic schooner
Zechey prob doesn’t have 1000 gold for the plot
I should invest in some old world mats
and research some crafting for that
late wraith
I’ll buy them from my brutosaur
livid wasp
they should introduce extra talent points for 100 bucks each, should net them a lot
tropic schooner
I’ll buy them from my brutosaur
which longboi?
im sure its the poor persons longboi
late wraith
they should introduce extra talent points for 100 bucks each, should net them a ...
100$ to play your skirm arenas for you
tropic schooner
100$ to win skirmishes
late wraith
Pay for cr
livid wasp
I just like how they instantly turn the housing into a cash grab
monthly payment isnt enough
tropic schooner
surprised it took that long
late wraith
Not them making money off their cosmetics oh nooooo
livid wasp
could make cool decorations obtainable via in game achievements, grind and shit but naah lock them behind real life money
oh well housing will be one of those things thats cool for a week and then it's meh forgotten about
tropic schooner
from what ive seen
next to impossible
it looks REALLY good
and most things are available outside shop
- shop is doabel without money too
halcyon siren
could make cool decorations obtainable via in game achievements, grind and shit ...
They are. The sickest most prestigious items will come from in-game achieves, just like eso
Housing will also definitely not ne forgotten about in its current incarnation
livid wasp
kinda doubt it
tropic schooner
have you heard anyone talk about it?
livid wasp
sickest mounts are store too so
tropic schooner
no
livid wasp
sure thing
halcyon siren
I'm getting baited by a level zero troll
tropic schooner
same with cosmetics
halcyon siren
Insanely shameful
livid wasp
idk will try it out
tropic schooner
you might not like it but im very sure its gonna have some excited ppl
just like tmogs
halcyon siren
if it's anything like eso, every profession will create some kind of housing decor item or interact with it significantly,
livid wasp
kinda thought of alchemy as second prof for money
idk
and mining herb on alt
or maybe enchanting is better
2x flask duration is fire though
livid wasp
idk im not sure how professions work I just remember making some by herbing and then making pots and flasks
but im not sure how effective its nowadays
tropic schooner
not unlikely to be better of in that case to just herb
livid wasp
yeah idk maybe just wageslave herb and mining
I can be when they make cross region
maybe I could just drop engi for the start of expansion on main and farm herb and mining
in between queues
or then just be engi skinning and find some insane spot
tough life choices
tropic schooner
if alchemy is similar to now you need to know when to buy/sell what exactly(not obvious) and be a goblin
livid wasp
probably
stray sigil
never drop engi
livid wasp
need to find some prof to pair with it
feels shit to pick just herb or mining since feels like it's only good to do both at the same time
livid wasp
yeah but you are mining and coming across herbs all the time as well
stray sigil
yeah but you are mining and coming across herbs all the time as well
need engi no matter what
livid wasp
asdasd
cant be that expensive and time consuming to lvl northrend engi back up
for how long was mining/herb profitable at the start of tww?
safe heart
Is wrath of the lich king over
livid wasp
jeeves still bis
livid wasp
becomes a bit of a waste of time at some point tho no
halcyon siren
for how long was mining/herb profitable at the start of tww?
1month
After that it dropped below 40k/hr depending on luck and I decided that wasn't worth it for me.
lunar sphinx
I’d have said 1 week including pre release. After DF everyone saw how much can be made from gathering so they all spammed it in TWW pre release. Gatherers everywhere all maxed on points.
livid wasp
idk ill have base edition
maybe for money it would be best to just gather for the first week
instead of lvling
I hate stressing about it already
tardy hare
If you dont have xal'atath portrait in your home, dont invite me to your house.
viscid remnant
xalatath feet portrait*
random patrol
water main break on street equaled no water for 15 hours thanks heavens Im nuts and have lit dozens of gallons of water back up
still annoying
clear pulsar
LOL yeah lowkey always have at least a few gallons
viscid remnant
15 monka
random patrol
I normally have around 50 ish plush
late wraith
I normally have around 50 ish plush
Are you a prepper
clear pulsar
Last 2 years we had water shortage/rationing for about a week so I got in the habit of doing that
clear pulsar
Some water set aside for bathing and some water set aside for drinking
clear pulsar
Full of Kirkland trail mix and weird meat
And a collection of mounted birds
random patrol
@late wraith I live in a semi rural arena in the second driest state in the nation and were in a drout
can never be to careful especially when you have limits to how much water you can use in the summer
now that being said I have some extra water rights cause utah is pretty fucked when it comes to that but yeah never hurts to have water in this state in case water main breaks for a week
or that one year were it was contaminated as f
@clear pulsar ceramic owls and 30 garfield plushes
late wraith
Dang utah
viscid remnant
random patrol
yep I know a guy with 3 wives not even a joke
livid wasp
are you a mormon
random patrol
atheist
late wraith
yep I know a guy with 3 wives not even a joke
The Mormons would make me feel crazy living there
but probably one of the top prettiest states in the country
grand mesa
Utah makes a lot of sense here
livid wasp
dum dum dum dum dum
wintry jackal
Thing is, its not beta. It's also just how those spells have been for years now....
I got triggered when my 3s team told me to press regrowth more
I was like outside of stopping a purge on a bop of something it’s literally 0 value of a global
Seeing Val doom is making me doom
livid wasp
why cant they remove bitz