#pvp
clear pulsar
velvet quest
depends on what fundamentals u mean, like building bloodtalons, not overcapping cp, maingtaining rip and rake
livid wasp
yeah
velvet quest
but by doing those things a lot smoother without having to put much thought into it ud also find urself doing a lot more dmg in pvp
livid wasp
and sudden ambushing rakes
velvet quest
cause right now the only thing u have to put brain power into doing is hitting essentially a training dummy in normal raids and ur making a lot of mistakes, which prob means ur making even more than u realize in pvp
livid wasp
idk man maybe I need to record boss fights in next raid
velvet quest
like log or video record?
livid wasp
video
adaptive swarm needs practice too probably
like just keep it until it's about to expire
and then reuse it
before it jumps
so it stays longer on him
ive ignored it a lot
velvet quest
i think adaptive swarm minmax is probably a much smaller issue than other things u could fix
livid wasp
I just dunno what could be so wrong, I keep all the bleeds up buffed just fine
on dummy
and first boss is a dummy
velvet quest
25 ilvl, proper stats, enchants (including wep enchant), consumables
correct build
trying to do a proper opener
i think those combine for like a 50% dps upgrade before you even begin to fix any rotational mistakes
livid wasp
yeah idk ive been spamming the compendium opener now trying to make it muscle memory
and got the talents
gotta run it on normal at some point
velvet quest
I believe in you
stray sigil
velvet quest
If you can easily find recrafters on your server I’d honestly consider crafting a ring and neck with no crests at 691 ilvl and proper stats it’ll prob make a bigger difference than you think with how strong secondaries are atm relative to main stat
velvet quest
It’s so cute how Fuji always tries to get me to notice him, clearly an eager apprentice hungering for his senpai’s attention 
livid wasp
also
safe heart
Arguably more fun tbh
livid wasp
if you have a ravage proc and rip is about to run out do you let rip run out and ravage or rip first then start building up to ravage
apparently with 691 crafts I could improve dps by 82k
with crit mastery
livid wasp
kek
livid wasp
yeah idk ive heard its an option to not play it now
safe heart
I play it
velvet quest
when zechey goes back to pvp arc hes gonna ask why the season feels so inflated cause hes suddenly doing 20% more dmg and winning games hed normally lose trust
clear pulsar
Different build in single target but yeah it's not super different gameplay
Just Ravage RNG especially in Berserk pisses my lunch out
velvet quest
livid wasp
oh feral is in the bottom with moonkin
dont care
feral gang
all stars top 10 ferals seem to be dotc except for 1
playing with roughly the same talents as pvp feral sounds enticing though
finite prawn
does Boomie bother with 4P? Seems kinda meh so far
random patrol
what was your mmr?
tropic grove
2k
random patrol
healer or dps?
finite prawn
ok good to know
tropic grove
dps
tropic grove
healer or dps?
immediately go 4-2 next round and gain 62
tropic schooner
finite prawn
Metz was going to win whether we liked it or not
random patrol
yeah seems about right for dps gains
wintry jackal
@livid wasp you can send your logs to the feral channel and people will tell you where they see you making mistakes too
tropic grove
yeah seems about right for dps gains
yea but not for a 6-0 at 1.7k cr, im pulling 4-2s and 5-1s right now at 2k and im getting more
random patrol
well if your on a winning streak now your def going to get more
tardy hare
i mean if your mmr is same as your rating then thats not a weird rating at all to get
livid wasp
last time I checked feral channel they were posting cat pics
tardy hare
I mean we do the same here with dumb shit too
clear pulsar
There's no clique in feral channel
surreal heron
So they'll ignore me
projection at it's finest
clear pulsar
Swarm is a projectile
stray sigil
There's no clique in feral channel
clear pulsar
Nothing like here
There are a few cliques from feral channel but they dont circlejerk in the #feral channel
stray sigil
safe heart
Called it
surreal heron
yeah singular data point bro, proves all bias
viscid remnant
livid wasp
or nobody knew the answer
surreal heron
are you 100% certain it's not included in the compendium
vestal citrus
normally i would want to troll thyme but thyme is right
compendium has like 99% of answers
if u got q about m+ nothing matters, if u got q around raid lorggs for dps cd usage solves the rest of the gap in knowledge rly
safe heart
I asked a question like 9 months ago, so I don't remember what my question was
M+ is the only thing that matters
surreal heron
mostly referring to zechey's
modern depot
you try to proc the eclipse of the spec you are right? like solar always if you are keeper of the grove?
vestal citrus
you try to proc the eclipse of the spec you are right? like solar always if you ...
more or less yes
livid wasp
I probably had 2-3 stacks of bt there and just used shred to gain combos
velvet quest
well u cant have 3 stacks if u just used a spender
livid wasp
2 then prolly
its annoying how you use TF and inca before opening in pvp
and in pve its completely different
this is gonna fuck me up
clear pulsar
its annoying how you use TF and inca before opening in pvp
This is only cuz pvpers are dumb
Whats the point of using incarn in stealth?
livid wasp
tbh ive been using it after I get bloodtalons
cause people might stop me
and shit
but I just watched snupy guide cause I got unsure about pvp opener
and he pops it and tf before opening
stray sigil
Whats the point of using incarn in stealth?
weve been over this million times
ur just ragebaitiing
livid wasp
anyway 5m of target dummy on raidbots is 2.7m dps and I did 2.6m on the dummy myself
livid wasp
ok it didnt take motw into account
clear pulsar
It does
The raid buffs part in raidbots says 'if your class provides one of the buffs, it will be simmed'
stray sigil
psure takes every buff into account in patchwork sim
ubless u disable
which zechey def didnt do
so u doing 95% of ur sim
seem sus
livid wasp
yeah idk
clear pulsar
For the direct hit of Rake or what?
stray sigil
where u want perfect dmg the whole time
clear pulsar
If you incarn 2s later you buff the whole rake dot all the same
clear pulsar
You said it yourself, DYNAMIC buff of zerk
clear pulsar
:)
clear pulsar
Nice stop and rethink
stray sigil
or zerk and rake
clear pulsar
Cuz you know you just spoke the most absolute nonsense
stray sigil
i mean ur being a tart abiyt it agaun
cuz u think in pve
thats on u
ur ragebaiting
like i said
@livid wasp legit doesnt matter
cuz zerk off gcd
so wven if u serk after rake
livid wasp
Fight Style
Target Dummy
Always 100% health, raid buffs/debuffs disabled, no consumables
clear pulsar
I have never ragebaited in my life
stray sigil
clear pulsar
You just rage a lot
livid wasp
ill just start using inca during stealth from now on so I will be able to say it is me in pvp mode
stray sigil
now if u talked about inflated ww logs again
clear pulsar
When you're a hammer everything looks like a nail
stray sigil
and said ww is good
clear pulsar
When you're a feji...
stray sigil
then i woulda been baited
stray sigil
When you're a hammer everything looks like a nail
well u are very small like nail
and i am big and strong like hammer
wintry jackal
Wait am I tripping or doesn’t incarn break stealth
stray sigil
u are tripping
viscid remnant
Guys please focus
wintry jackal
Ohhhh yeah that’s what it was season 1
And I just always got in the habit of rake stun
First
wintry jackal
For sure
stray sigil
before ur toys and shit
viscid remnant
stray sigil
https://tenor.com/view/skebob-gif-6624783686266272619
what id that vurd
bird
what kind
viscid remnant
Скебоб
stray sigil
now again but not in ape rusky
viscid remnant
Skebob
wintry jackal
Btw like any discord server to get a response just single out someone who seems knowledgeable
Dru is super knowledgeable and helpful
Or crazymeow
livid wasp
ok I will
I refuse to believe during single target I should be spamming brutal slash during berserk
maybe ive misunderstood
worth prolly when theres adds
wintry jackal
you should
you don't do that in pvp?
i mean
if you get a sudden ambush sure
but brutal is the cheapest cp builder i thought
yeah
livid wasp
yeah but like spamming brutal slash for ravage procs ignoring everything else
wintry jackal
oh that's new
when i have pvp'd the last 2 seasons dotc was only for mythic+ and certain fights in raid
but I don't remember changing the playstyle around ravage procs
pve**
clear pulsar
yeah but like spamming brutal slash for ravage procs ignoring everything else
It doesnt tell you ignore everything else (like perma overcapping combo points)
safe heart
what mods
random patrol
2 many to list over 200 atm
tropic schooner
thats at least 3
random patrol
remastered
remastered has over 3800 mods on nexus
my skyrim has over 2600 combined
now though cause of collections and vortex that's nothing real special I've seen some collections on nexusmods with 4-5k mods
Gate To Sovngarde prob the best one for anyone new to it 1800 built in it's like if skyrim had a real update to a modern game
safe heart
dude wtf are you supposed to do with dragon boss on gambit
is it like basically 100% on the tank
neon chasm
I need to do this. Extremely easy to do as monk
safe heart
@clear pulsar how do i tailoring in the current xpansion
clear pulsar
I need to do this. Extremely easy to do as monk
It's bad for the rest of the group both surviving and doing damage
safe heart
nvm i learned
clear pulsar
You already have 8 targets on the 1st pull and dragging 4 into boss instead is a big gain for lots of specs, especially the meta ones
velvet quest
its only legal to do mid key after u use ur cds to pad on a big pull
safe heart
ok we basically did that so
so we abandoned a 12 floodgate going down after 3rd boss with 6 min left
we had 10 deaths total
tank had to afk for 1 minute for pizza
neon chasm
You already have 8 targets on the 1st pull and dragging 4 into boss instead is a...
Ah yes. I don’t drag them to boss yet :)))
I’m a scrub. Don’t mind me 😄
stray sigil
tank had to afk for 1 minute for pizza
clear pulsar
Yeah 6 mins sounds like it wouldnt have been enough
Maybe the pizza call was a bad excuse to force you guys to realize it was hopeless and abandon
fierce pike
is the resto pvp talents still active? it says S2
fierce pike
what WA shows DRs for cyclone
tardy hare
Diminish
vestal citrus
is the resto pvp talents still active? it says S2
just go to murlok
can see some shit there
viscid remnant
🤯
clear pulsar
is the resto pvp talents still active? it says S2
Spec didnt change really. Only thing I would swap from that is -12s NS to Tranquil Mind and Implant to Twin Sprouts.
livid wasp
shit is kinda expensive I need to get a job in game
viscid remnant
🤯
velvet quest
just make 20 enchanters zechey easy +300k twice a week
if u just raid log i think just 1 character doing concentration crafts pays for consumables but it isnt enough if ur actively keying unfortch
livid wasp
you can get 2 star for 41g
ill take that one
need them for parses tho
are gathering profs shit money now?
tropic schooner
a lot less compared to early xpansion/patch
but the enchanter recommendation needs some setup but fairly passive after
livid wasp
how does it work? doing some twice-a-week enchant thing?
tropic schooner
depending how you optimize the enchanting sth like 10k / week/char very conservative estimate
with like 1 min of "owrk"
"work"
(after setup)
livid wasp
some guide on that I bet
tropic schooner
step 1: lvl enchanting
step2: get some knowledge points
step 3 buy rank 2 mats
step 4: craft some shit
livid wasp
something like that
I used to have alchemy when I raided
idk if its any good money now
tropic schooner
as always depends what you want to do
livid wasp
I would buy a ton of herbs and make pots and shit and hop for procs
tropic schooner
but if you dont have alchemy setup already
doubt you can do it till end of expansion
takes an eternity
livid wasp
guess I should pick it start of next xpac or some shit then
lime light
very good gold
i pay them
100g per item crafted
some whsipers "4k"
but then most of them
"tip w/e"
so 100g 🙂
livid wasp
is that their only way to make gold
could be kinda fun having like a tailor, LW and blacksmithing chars and checking out orders regularly on each of them
lime light
xDDDDDDDDDD
livid wasp
?
dark finch
100g per item crafted
I have my own crafter i pay them 2K per item
Im shocked that other people pay less than 1K
livid wasp
cheapskates
tropic schooner
could be kinda fun having like a tailor, LW and blacksmithing chars and checking...
thats not how you make gold with work orders
you have to spam trade chat for ages
dark finch
you have to spam trade chat for ages
Or meet me… someone who doesn’t know how much to pay so overpays
lime light
why would u pay more
dark finch
why would u pay more
I pay 2K
tropic schooner
thats nothing
lime light
i pay 100g
dark finch
i pay 100g
That’s way to little to be trash talking my 2K
Atleast i pay them for the effort they put in for leveling the profession
livid wasp
thats not how you make gold with work orders
yeah I guess just pvpers list public orders since quality doesnt matter
dark finch
100G you can earn in 1 minute
tropic schooner
yes but you wont make gold off of that
like 1k if youa re lucky but thats kinda w/e
livid wasp
I read someone made a ton of gold with BS idk hoe
clear pulsar
you have to spam trade chat for ages
I get a couple orders a day pmuch everyday just by whispering people that ask occasionally in trade, not spamming myself
Just takes not being on a big realm
Big realm def has infinite whisper bots
lime light
they should pay me, that they can craft it for me
clear pulsar
But small realm, not so much
tropic schooner
you have to deal with random ppl in trade
clear pulsar
Whats the afk enchanting spec?
clear pulsar
Everlasting enchantments?
livid wasp
ima just lvl up enchanting see what its like
I havent really done any professions in ages
tropic schooner
no clue what the best enchant actuall is im jsut randomly deciding between weapon ring boots
felt like the chest one wasnt worth
safe heart
Zechy heal shuffle
I made like 30k going from 0-1800 on mw
From the free runes and bloodstones
viscid remnant
🤯
tropic schooner
find it funny that you can still make decent gold with reselling augment runes
livid wasp
ill take wagecucking in wow over healing any day
viscid remnant
🤯
velvet quest
I like healing but only if I’m playing with my friends. Random dps in shuffle aren’t deserving of my efforts
grand mesa
Is PvP fun yet
livid wasp
it is
grand mesa
Is shaman good
viscid remnant
grand mesa
Either rsham or ele
livid wasp
dont think so
velvet quest
Rsham is good ele is maybe good
velvet quest
Enh also seems kinda sleeper
velvet quest
I don’t think ele is bad I just don’t see many ppl playing it
livid wasp
can you carry me
velvet quest
Storm
grand mesa
Dislike storm. Hate relying on the bang bang oh we didn’t kill wait another 2 min try again
velvet quest
When we lose to enh it’s they pop cds randomly they trinket my disarm and they tab target triple kill us from range
grand mesa
(Aka I’m not good at setting up and making the most of the 2 min window)
velvet quest
I also don’t have much enh data we fought like 2 of them in the last 3 weeks
grand mesa
Yeah probably an endangered species spec
velvet quest
Why would warrior play with a non ret tbh if they want a melee cleave
velvet quest
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/927953522971000852/1418870660696113172/im...
Yeah I saw that’s huge
Do you have a consistent team or just getting io with a bnet cabal
grand mesa
Mix of both. I been pugging a lot
Which hasn’t been as spooky as I thought
Or a terrible experience
grand mesa
Why would warrior play with a non ret tbh if they want a melee cleave
Oh yeah k see on twitter
The screenshots
Of the 5 paladin lobbies
Lmaoo
velvet quest
I kinda don’t mind it cause with my comp the wins end up feeling super rewarding in 3s
But should ask beavs how fun it is when I tell her “you have to slow down their dmg” 
grand mesa
You have to slow down their damage
Almost same sitch but barely slightly diff
We need to play faster
Next game
We need to slow down their damage
Have you considered cloning a bit more
velvet quest
@late wraith does this sound familiar
I’m sorta giving up on trying to make non rogue specs work in 3s it just doesn’t feel good trying to find a win condition
grand mesa
think that's fair
velvet quest
Like if I’m ww on a spriest getting full uptime doing the most dmg of all time and I get 1 disperse in 5 minutes it’s like what’s the point of being on this spec lol
clear pulsar
Ok I'm tired to making darkmoon decks for this shit
Ok calm down
WW is absolute holocaust damage
If you get 1 disperse in 5 mins you need to learn more from fuji
lime light
Feji is a dog
tropic schooner
Ok I'm tired to making darkmoon decks for this shit
yea when I skilled it I just bought them, slightly more expensive but elss of a hassle
velvet quest
If you get 1 disperse in 5 mins you need to learn more from fuji
No the spec needs more than 3s incap
clear pulsar
No the spec needs more than 3s incap
You sound like mage mains talking like the class is unplayable without having a stun
velvet quest
Not falling for that rage bait
velvet quest
I don’t see dorito and trill doing holocaust dmg on their wws maybe they’re doing something wrong
velvet quest
Nah I saw some of his games with Sam’s boomkin it looked pretty miserable
And then I saw him playing against Doritos’s ww ret and I think ret was top dmg every game
velvet quest
Yeah but that’s cause damp can make their dmg unhealable right?
Or like what burst do you mean, during cds or random 60-0 globals
velvet quest
Ur just self reporting as a ww hater now
viscid remnant
velvet quest
I just feel like all that pressure doesn’t amount to much if 1 cc they sit can kinda reset it and they’re reliant on their team to get anything on the healer
clear pulsar
I mean I never said WW is the most broken spec in the game, just that it does rly high damage, if it had sub rogue CC it would need a nerf on other areas
Yeah it's 3 x 3
Everybody's reliant on their team
viscid remnant
🤯
clear pulsar
So you right, if you expect to solo handle CC on the whole team
The only thing you can play is rogue
velvet quest
Yeah I know it does rly high dmg if it’s left alone it just doesn’t get enough done into most teams
Well dh can stun big incap fear healer right
clear pulsar
And their burst is shit
velvet quest
Yeah idk about that one
clear pulsar
Leg sweep incap and rop?
velvet quest
Ur just listing abilities now what is this
clear pulsar
You did that for dh
velvet quest
Yeah ur right wws can just run to the healer and incap into sweep and then come back and kill the spriest I should’ve thought of that
velvet quest
Universally? Or in a perfect scenario
clear pulsar
Yeah
velvet quest
That’s it you’ve radicalized me into joining team zechey
viscid remnant
🤯
velvet quest
Remove all rdruids
clear pulsar
Not to mention ww is just better at sticking to a target that tries to run
Which is irrelevant in your 1 shadow priest example
Conveniently
velvet quest
Ww is better than what at sticking to target that tries to run
clear pulsar
DH
velvet quest
I can confidently say ur wrong about that
tropic schooner
is there really much difference cant kite either of those
proud tangle
dh slow is ranged ww slow is melee
clear pulsar
WW has clash and knocks people in the air
Immune to cc at all during conduit
Idk it's one 5% damage buff away from being the best melee no word of a lie
clear pulsar
WW is also just easier to play than havoc so that goes a long way
viscid remnant
🤯
clear pulsar
velvet quest
Yeah I agree. Havoc dmg has a lot more nuance which is why you think it has no burst
Also if ur listing conduit cc immune as part of windwalker’s “uptime toolkit” it’s just gonna be strictly worse than warrior’s at that point
velvet quest
Ur not rage baiting ur just a hater
late wraith
<@269313900816629760> does this sound familiar
Wow it’s crazy to see a baiter get baited like this
velvet quest
I did not
late wraith
stray sigil
WW has clash and knocks people in the air
clear pulsar
Get timed out idiot
late wraith
Lol did he get timed out?
clear pulsar
I hope so
wintry jackal
stray sigil
no its his cousin
safe heart
How tf you get timed out in a pvp chat
safe heart
This is some projection bias type beat rn
minor tartan
The Kool Aid Man Is My Wifes Pilates Instructor
velvet quest
You posted that in warr discord and pinged someone and didn’t get a response are u getting desperate
livid wasp
"The Chant of Burrowing Rapidity will probably be the cheapest recipe you can buy. But check the Auction House price for all three."
that shit costs 90k
velvet quest
What are u doing all that for
If you want cheap recipes use undermine exchange website and see what server it’s cheap on then go there on a fresh level 1 and warbank it
But you shouldn’t need to buy any recipes either to level enchanting or to make gold
livid wasp
what enchants do you craft in general to make money
tropic schooner
weapon stat procc defenders what ever boots the radiant ring enchants
any of those
prolly others worth too
minor tartan
@velvet quest all I see is hate
wintry jackal
livid wasp
okak
lunar sphinx
Councils intellect and radiant power are normally the biggest gold per concentration. Just get craftsim and/or TSM to turn professions into gold tbh
safe heart
I leveled my tailoring from 0 to 25 so I can do the Ara Kara thing
tropic schooner
Councils intellect and radiant power are normally the biggest gold per concentra...
just double checked that im not tripping (dont have radiant ring enchants on this char) but radiant power is one of the "worst" ones
still quite decent but its around 11g/concentration
while some others are closer to 13
fairly sure this season at least radiant power usually isnt all that great but its still totally fine and yuo still make like 10-15k / week even if not fully optimized like the char i have
if this crafting system stays might lvl some chars in the legion remix to use for enchanting next expansion
livid wasp
I wonder if theres a way to make tidyplates not throw every mob's nameplate to the top of the screen in big pulls so I can see their debuffs
random patrol
vestal citrus
what enchants do you craft in general to make money
u wanna make money just do carries
smh
what u make in a month i made in 4 hours type shit
then once u make the gold u gamble it
and double up
tropic grove
theres nothing to buy all the elite weapons at once right i need to buy each appearance individually ?
tardy hare
All individually ye
tropic grove
i did all this just because this is arguably the coolest polearm they've ever made
random patrol
just do delve carries
people actually buy delve carries cause people are that lazy
or level carries
I made a few mill off of that already
tlfr lazy fucks = gold
livid wasp
how
wintry jackal
wtf people buy delve carries
random patrol
yep
safe heart
I wonder if theres a way to make tidyplates not throw every mob's nameplate to t...
Zechy ppl pay like 10k for an afk delve clear
You just solo it for them
livid wasp
why do they even play the game
vestal citrus
why do they even play the game
wym
safe heart
they just want vaults or easy gear on their alts
or wanna do their belt quest or somthing probably
rapid wagon
Hey guys why are resto druids not going haste mastery for pvp anymore? The high vers that everyone is going seems to make casting clones really painful
lunar sphinx
if this crafting system stays might lvl some chars in the legion remix to use fo...
Given I get every class to 1800 every season and then have 3 druids and 3 shamans I push on, they all have enchanting just to DE gear. Some can do some lower gold/concentration enchants as well just for a little boost. Even with gearing and enchanting c17 characters every season I’m slightly gold positive since tww launch without trying too hard for it. JC on my main was also crazy gold making PvP neck/rings in S1/S2
safe heart
what does that first sentence have to do with that just curious
lunar sphinx
Give context to why I have so many characters
vestal citrus
Hey guys why are resto druids not going haste mastery for pvp anymore? The high ...
just heal no clone gg ez
livid wasp
m+ rotation kinda tough
if I space out a bit then something falls off and its all fucked
lime light
what is tough about it
livid wasp
all the short bleeds and getting bt procs for every bw without capping and shit
then again idk what its like for other classes cause I dont play
livid wasp
is it
velvet quest
is it
It is harder but pvpers are worse at doing it and spend less effort improving it
livid wasp
well there is a bit of challenge doing that big dick dps while avoiding shit interrupting shit
keeping up those rakes on million enemies
ive been spending a lot of time on the aoe dummies but they dont really cut it
ruby elk
yoooo, i have a question for restro pvp - why do so many ppl take cenarion ward over abundance cuz 1,8m heal for ward doesnt seem much while abundance just free spam is
clear pulsar
yoooo, i have a question for restro pvp - why do so many ppl take cenarion ward ...
Idk how to answer that question cuz it's just describing things in a way I dont see/agree with. CW is just better is the only answer.
ruby elk
What pvp content are you healing?
Im healing blitz pvp
For me it says 1,8 mil afte taking dmg
Damn, xD
clear pulsar
And do you get to sit there turreting away Regrowths with 8-10 rejuvs up on the party for a long time?
I'm not sure that Abundance can see benefit like that
clear pulsar
Im healing blitz pvp
For me it says 1,8 mil afte taking dmg
Damn, xD
The number on tooltip is just a base value, you have tons of buffs that will apply to it
ruby elk
The number on tooltip is just a base value, you have tons of buffs that will app...
Fair enoughh
Okay thankuu c:
viscid remnant
@clear pulsar unc fallen winning a t1 event the old fashioned way
clear pulsar
Did you watch insane fallen clutch on nuke
clear pulsar
QUE GOOD É ESSA
viscid remnant
fallen dog 1v9
clear pulsar
Barto undefeated
The br broadcast got sponsorship from a grill company and from a food producer, they were grilling barbecue during the game
viscid remnant
unc fallen rolling back the years is one of my favorite catchphrases
everytime he gets more than 1 kill the casters say this
random patrol
been playing my dk all week feel like I better get back on druid or risk player worse on it lol
stray sigil
random patrol
lit brain rot from rotting corpse class
safe heart
Pb&just popcorn is pretty good
glacial echo
can you tell pls wich stats for pvp hast vers pr mastery vers, for craft
lunar sphinx
Which spec?
viscid remnant
🤯
glacial echo
Which spec?
balnce
lunar sphinx
Balance in pvp wants full haste versa. If you’re at haste DR cap (30% iirc) you can consider some mastery.
glacial echo
Balance in pvp wants full haste versa. If you’re at haste DR cap (30% iirc) you ...
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open rose
im at 3 set feral atm w/ conq weap, about to buy 4th piece - does 4set make a huge difference?
tropic schooner
you could disable it in pvp
livid wasp
nah its like a matter of getting used to it but its just so annoying at the start since it's so super distracting
clear pulsar
You dont need plater fwiw, but it is goated
My plater is very tremendously built for pvp and pve
But something like betterblizzframes works fine out of the box
For everything
Or betterblizzplates
livid wasp
ive used tidyplates since forever but they go all over my screen in big pulls so cant use it
clear pulsar
Whatever the nameplate is
livid wasp
that shit not updated since launch either
clear pulsar
That is just regular game cvars you can change
Whether they stack or overlap, how much gap between them when stacking
safe heart
I use the betterblizzplates mythic package that's I'm the addon itself no changes
Think it works pretty well
livid wasp
nice addon totems just say "totem"
how do you even change that
what kind of a psychotic human being has these borders
cant even remove them
clear pulsar
What the fuck addon is that
livid wasp
plater
clear pulsar
Lmao did you copy some weird ass profile from someone
livid wasp
I copied jundies profile
and ive been modifying it
im happy with how this looks but the castbar is shit and I cant disable the borders I can just set them to 0.1 thickness and they keep flashing
and the totems are just called totems and idk how to change that
clear pulsar
You want the cast bar floating 40px below the health bar without a way to tell that it's that health bar's?
livid wasp
reeeeeeeeeeee
clear pulsar
and the totems are just called totems and idk how to change that
It's gonna be in the Modding tab, something about shorten names
But like you picked up a profile that completely kept nothing about the way it looks, what was the point?
livid wasp
I didnt have a problem with the casting bar below before
the cast bar also showed the picture of the ability being cast
can you do that on plater
like this
meh apparently default settings have it but its disabled in this setup
it has nice stuff too tho like pandemic flashing
wintry jackal
lunar sphinx
Better blizz plates is far better for PvP than player. And it only shows the important totems/pets (you can toggle which)
livid wasp
isnt it just weird using different name plates for different content
clear pulsar
Better blizz plates is far better for PvP than player. And it only shows the imp...
You can recreate exactly everything about better blizz plates on Plater tho
But sure
lime light
Zechey u sounds like sometimes
but sometimes
like u are looking for something in your anus
no joke
like just log in and play
livid wasp
maybe time to send alt
analog wadi
Ultra newbie restoration druid here. How do druids survive getting trained? feels like my hots don't heal for anything and if I cast something I get silenced into a stun and drop dead. If I go into bear then all I can do is use enraged regeneration and our 30% self heal cd then I just die. Is there a spammable hot? am I suppose to spam rejuv on myself for the insta heal or something I am missing?
safe heart
use roots and ursols and wild charge to get away
clear pulsar
Ultra newbie restoration druid here. How do druids survive getting trained? feel...
Mobility and positioning to avoid that more than spamming heals while people dick you down
Stun into cyclones, vortex/root melee around pillars
viscid remnant
@clear pulsar
analog wadi
Mobility and positioning to avoid that more than spamming heals while people dic...
Issue with cyclone is that I get silenced and then I can't do anything at all. I am assuming stun is better than the incapacitate for this situation (from your recommendation)so I will def spec into the stun. Vortex/root first then gain some distance for cyclone cast; hopefully the healer can't silence me.
I guess this is where being tauren would have been great, just stun their entire team.
clear pulsar
Fake the kicks before you strictly need to get a cast off
Then you get casts off
Watch the bible https://www.youtube.com/@_Flop/videos
It's hard to figure out what you need to do better if no one know what you're doing, so usually recording your games is great for getting better
clear pulsar
<@102094910101913600>
Falcons on the phone rn trying to buy out
They need 1 more star
viscid remnant
Hes awper smurfing brazil
viscid remnant
I assumed theyre clankers but its still crazy to die 6 times in 2 maps
Also save insani
Some real team needs to sign him
clear pulsar
Nah he is in MIBR for a reason
viscid remnant
🥀
clear pulsar
Lions of regional scene
Good stats cuz he's last one alive always saving when the rest of the team dies first
I dont believe insani can be that great player
viscid remnant
idk i mean from the little ive seen of him hes just a good player
but maybe not enough
he was highest rated on mibr in the major no ?
maybe i saw one or two good games and it made him look better
clear pulsar
Sure, I mean he is good, he's the best player on the team until now, but I dont think he's solo carrying and being held back
viscid remnant
maybe u are right hes not solocarrying but he could fit in a higher rated team
late wraith
like u are looking for something in your anus
livid wasp
in dornogal they look fine when I enter the instance theyre all fucked like this
im done with this shit
good luck fucking raking every mob
like that
why the hell do they lose their opacity
when im not targetting
making them more impossible to se
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why cant there be proper nameplate addons
ripe ember
is running last season's 4pc as resto actually the way to go, or is that something people way better than me can pull off
stray sigil
why cant there be proper nameplate addons
u need to ask some pve freak for their profiles
livid wasp
idk maybe my nameplates do that cause theyre too big
astral rune
good luck fucking raking every mob
You don’t worry about raking every mob
For pve
Do you have multiple nameplate addons active simultaneously? That will mess things up
livid wasp
nah I dont, I just have plater that I changed to look like my tidyplates
ill just use that shit
astral rune
viscid remnant
🤯
stray sigil
bunch of weirdos over there
astral rune
You don't worry about spreading rake unless you have nothing else to press which shouldn't really happen
and yeah there's DCR so that helps with worrying about it even less
stray sigil
zechey needs to lock in
livid wasp
idk is it true tho
astral rune
it's the lowest prio
stray sigil
just play a real spec zechey my boy
livid wasp
dasdsadasdas
do I have to be using plater for pve and when I go pvp I disable it and enable another addon
stray sigil
who nose i odnt use nameplate addons in pve
viscid remnant
livid wasp
I just like tidyplates but they all pile on top of each other at the top of my screen if there are too many mobs or if the mobs are big
astral rune
do I have to be using plater for pve and when I go pvp I disable it and enable a...
that's what I do, I use plater with jundies for keys and betterblizzplates for pvp
clear pulsar
All it would take it to check the settings for plater yourself before complaining about what it's doing, it's all solved there
lime light
but why do u need
anything more
than u have for pvp
just watch out for a rip and thrash
and u good
lime light
ah i was mostly responding to Zecheys but forgot to tag him xD
clear pulsar
Like his thing about nameplates stacking up to the ceiling
That has nothing to do with either addon
That all being said, my plater profile is objectively the best https://wago.io/fvEaGwbpX
I dont use combo point on the nameplate like you but @livid wasp
Prime plater for pvp and pve bless thank me later paypal in the description
clear pulsar
Altho it might end up with weird looking things cuz I'm using sharedmedia fonts and textures you may not have
This is where you can change the amount that the nameplates overlap/stack if you want
livid wasp
just watch out for a rip and thrash
pretty sure all high pvers keep rake up on many targets as well
ill look at that
lime light
depends on the pulls
ofc if u have 4-5 mobs
u rake them
but above that i rly dubt
livid wasp
man those nameplates you use are huge
clear pulsar
Maybe you have some scale setting
Idk how big they are for you if you consider this huge
livid wasp
probably I do
clear pulsar
There is mods in there that add these green and yellow extra bars in the nameplate
Idk if you'll look for them but they help me find identify targets better than the debuff icons for Rake (yellow) and Vine targets (green) to Convoke into
livid wasp
yeah idk maybe ill just try pve with the jundies plater plates for now
not sure if theyre bigger than intended too
wintry jackal
im not going there
People are nice in feral bro
livid wasp
threat plates looks kinda solid too tho
stray sigil
People are nice in feral bro
livid wasp
Zechey yours look bigger
I dont know why, the blizz settings are all default
I copied bajheeras threat plates profile and it was big as fuck too
whatever
clear pulsar
Idk how much more trying to help I can do but the screenshot I sent earlier has a nameplate scale slider in the part I drew a big pink line around
And you can also search 'scale' in the plater settings
random patrol
garfield randomizer everyone
okay that one is actually just a normally comic pretty much
random patrol
mechagnome mage
livid wasp
garfield randomizer everyone
why do they both make sense
random patrol
@livid wasp you hit the randomizer button enough you get some winners
safe heart
What is the aotc mount this season
livid wasp
I got aotc but I didnt get that
random patrol
"
Learned from Reins of the Royal Voidwing Reins of the Royal Voidwing, which is rewarded from A Twilight Oath's End A Twilight Oath's End, which is started by Mark of the Twilight Oath Mark of the Twilight Oath, which likely drops off Dimensius on Heroic/Mythic before the release of the next expansion.
Usually referred to as the 'AotC' mount, but isn't actually tied to the 'AotC' achievement itself, and sometimes gets extended availability if there is an extra season of all the S1-3 raids at the end of an expansion.
Last edited by TheStatman on 2025/06/24 (Patch 11.1.7)"
its a quest drop you should get from killing heroic dim
livid wasp
my guild is 5/8
astral rune
this is my gladiator mount
Finding out you can’t get the glad mount via solo shuffle was disappointing. I haven’t queued 3’s in years.
But you can get it Zechey, just gotta lock in
random patrol
good
livid wasp
But you can get it Zechey, just gotta lock in
nah
viscid remnant
🤯
lime light
viscid remnant
m+ clone
livid wasp
so its like league but you just queue for m+s instead
wintry jackal
Yup
livid wasp
kinda lame
isnt the point to get cool mounts and stuff on your characters
well not the point but cool thing to have
lime light
i dont think so anyone cares about the mounts
anymore in wow
could be wrong
ppl wanna play for dopamine / loot
and if things are insta its a big +
like to be abel to play m+
takes forever
if u are not vet
and in game like that
u jump in and queue up
tropic grove
i dont think so anyone cares about the mounts
I'd say most people play for collectibles and mounts are a major part of it
clear pulsar
100%
Loads more people reach for 3k score after they added a 2nd mount recolor there
I think the % that cares about m+ like that, just want to lobby m+ and push without the entire rest of the mmo system + collecting in wow aspect is minuscule
There's no playerbase to sustain that type of game rn
viscid remnant
idont really care about cosmetics in wow but that game is just 100% soulless imo
clear pulsar
I think the % that cares about m+ like that, just want to lobby m+ and push with...
Because people that play like that are already taken by other seasonal dungeon crawling type games like POE
tropic grove
Loads more people reach for 3k score after they added a 2nd mount recolor there
Literally why I started playing after ditching s1 tww, just thought "cool mount" and yoinked it as a legion remix waiting room, same thing for pvp cosmetics
tropic schooner
could be wrong
im willing to bet people playing for mounts/other collectibles are the biggest portion of the playerbase
silver fog
anecdotal but everyone I know that does PvP is for transmog/mounts lol
lime light
hmm ok, could be idk
tropic schooner
obviously there are overlaps in playerbases but part of the reason people care about things like glad are litterally collectibles too
lime light
i played for a reward one time, getting first glad
tropic schooner
people care a lot about glad or even r1 because of that
lime light
then idk kinda i was just playing
silver fog
obviously there are overlaps in playerbases but part of the reason people care a...
elite tmog for as many chars as possible 
tropic schooner
yup
lime light
ofc its fun if u get the milestone
tropic schooner
ofc its fun if u get the milestone
sure but how many people care about things like 2.7 compared to glad or r1?
doubt many
and thats also a milestone
lime light
true
tropic schooner
but ofc not everyone will care about it I wouldnt say most people who aim for glad do it because of the mount but a lot of people care about things like that, including myself
its fun collecting things
lime light
for me it was fun that way, when my friends ' old school ppl were still playing the game, and there was plenty communities where i was in
it was cool to share with them, when u got something big
like the glad mount
safe heart
Getting glad mount is cool because of what it represents more than just the mount itself imo
lime light
nowdays no one from OG ppl plays it anymore
tropic schooner
Getting glad mount is cool because of what it represents more than just the moun...
but mostly because its a mount
otherwise you would have something like 2.7k achievement
represents a bigger deal
but its just not as cool, because its not a mount / not as obvious
even tho its harder to get
safe heart
Easier to see a mount than an achieve
tropic schooner
exactly
which means the collectible absolutely is part of it
and why ppl are disappointed if the mount sucks
clear pulsar
And all that is also tied into being part of a greater game with more sources of rewards and being able to fill your time with different activities
safe heart
I just mean like, if there's some rare 0.1% drop mount you get from farming an old raid, id never bother doing that
clear pulsar
I don't think the detached m+ game is gonna work out the same way
tropic schooner
I just mean like, if there's some rare 0.1% drop mount you get from farming an o...
you might not
safe heart
The hardest i ever went for a "meaningless" mount was the A to Z zereth mortis thing
I would want the glad mount jjst to show I got glad, even if the mount sucked
lime light
ok d4 time
viscid remnant
sum ting wong
tropic schooner
always good to have something to improve
safe heart
Does something happen to your io score on the 11.2.5 patch
livid wasp
at least theyre not grey like in the hc
safe heart
Or whatever the .5 patch is coming
grand mesa
No
safe heart
My tank was saying we need to get 3k before the patch
grand mesa
There’s no functional reason to care about 3k before patch
Aside from personal goal or benchmark
livid wasp
I compare my dps wowanalyzer report to good feral parses and doesnt look that different
could work on spending SA more wisely
wintry jackal
Let’s go king
viscid remnant
🤯
livid wasp
I still dont know what I should do as feral in team fights in blitz
I just dot everyone and stay on one guy and cc healer
safe heart
Low key high key I think you should not be allowed to talk at the gym
livid wasp
why go to a gym if you dont wanna deal with people
safe heart
Cuz I don't wanna pay $50,000 for equipment
livid wasp
not that pricey
just need a squat rack and a bench, bar and some weights
and adjustable dumbbells
gg most of gym
and a pull up bar
astral rune
Yeah those things you listed are expensive af lmao
Pull up bar is the cheapest thing
astral rune
Used market is crazy too, gotta be lucky to find the right person trying to get rid of them at a low cost
livid wasp
whatever
I just work out at home im poor
only thing I miss from the gym is leg press
and those 48kg kettlebells
carrying those big bois around
holy fuck the feeling on forearms
finite prawn
Did boomy get nerfed? I don’t see notes but saw people talking about it
safe heart
can buy them used
nah i like more variety than that, im already alittle stir crazy at the gym im at now tbh
tropic schooner
rare zechey W
livid wasp
maybe im in the wrong guild going for mythic raiding when the fucking raid leader plays feral
random patrol
eh they need a motw prob
finite prawn
yeah like 2 weeks ago
Ah that was before I even started lol so I’m good
random patrol
time to go to the faroe islands for culinary reasons
tropic grove
My tank was saying we need to get 3k before the patch
It changes in logs but no one decent looks at m+ logs for parses
lime light
maybe im in the wrong guild going for mythic raiding when the fucking raid leade...
i would say big F
at the end he is gonna say
feral is rly bad, and we just need one
so
finite prawn
ok when is the appropriate time to use Starfire in PVP (Balance)?
safe heart
When you wanna kill your enemies
finite prawn
im still learning, but so far my burst really feels like moonfire, sunfire, Force of Nature, usually root into elune, incarn, and then just unhealable Starsurge
it's like 5M dps burst, its actually hilarious
then in BGB team fights its spread more dots, keep Starfall up, but don't really know when I use Starfire.. I use Wrath a fair amount for hard-casting moments and it's solid
tropic grove
You shouldnt apply dots during your burst
Make sure they're up before and then press the buttons that do damage
tropic schooner
with some prepooled resources
halcyon siren
When u get instant starfire procs and are in lunar eclipse is a pretty good time
When u want to proc solar eclipse
wintry jackal
im still learning, but so far my burst really feels like moonfire, sunfire, Forc...
watch the rudar guide
finite prawn
ahh I see, so if I rock wrath into Lunar eclipse into team fights in BGB it'll juice Starfire's cleave
tropic grove
what the fuck is this matchmaking
tropic grove
ahh I see, so if I rock wrath into Lunar eclipse into team fights in BGB it'll j...
you always need to be in an eclipse, solar is for st, lunar is for aoe IF you can get your starfire to cleave
safe heart
What's wrong with that match making
tropic grove
this is my first season doing blitz and im chilling at 1700 cr with like a 10-7 ratio and i just get yoinked into 2300 lobbies
finite prawn
That's a good thing
Means you can climb easily and losses won't hose you
You always want your MMR to be higher than your CR or you end up in a pit of endless despair
finite prawn
My Augvoker is sitting at 1800 and queuing into 2800 lobbies, I think there's just also not a lot of players so Blizz has to widen the nets or game queues will be like 2 hours
Here was a climb match, I said the same thing as you:
"I think I am in the wrong room, please guide me out"
tropic grove
Here was a climb match, I said the same thing as you:
i up you this
finite prawn
🇺🇸
tropic grove
no this is EU
finite prawn
🇪🇺
tropic schooner
"I think I am in the wrong room, please guide me out"
but you arent in the wrong room?
finite prawn
No it worked out, we won, won a few more, parked for a bit to try boomie
tropic schooner
My Augvoker is sitting at 1800 and queuing into 2800 lobbies, I think there's ju...
also this part, maybe its true, but there is no indication of that happening in the original picture
think biggest "outlier" is the warlock
with 2360
but thats only +37