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what happened to el patron
who
If I played rdruid in pve in shadowlands, is rdruid basically the same shit still
Efflo lifebloom extend cenward ?
Thanks
rip hunters
@clear pulsar we can call Nintendo on grove guardians
pvp chickens when the spec is slightly nerfed 
lol spec had it coming
boomy is fine we just can't 100-0 with dreamburst now
(thats not true)
while I do think those patents are iffy to begin with either way this is only about some fairly specific situation how specific ive seen debates and im not lawyer enough to know how specific it is but it seemed to only be about a certain fighting situation, and doesnt even include many of the other pokemon games
gaming related shit shouldnt be able to be patented
that seems extreme
Witch off set piece i need as feral ?
I think I skipped chest
we can get 4-set now?
My feral has it from pve
And to remove warlocks
It's early xmas
does feral even go 4-set
idk, you could argue that having free damage makes your gear worse
I used my 4 set
Idk if it helped or not
Don't even rly know what it does
More vines is good
you run gloves/chest/helm/shoulders and skip legs
but is it good enough to justify the stats
in ferals case def yes
dont think so
think with dmg you just gotta be aggressive with cds and mana
everyone is basically hard committing ancient first global for burst/opener and then you just have to make it to your second one in shuff
random cc seems incredibly punishing dunno. had many games where people just drop through hots in a hoj, sheep, fear etc
knitting is fun that is all
Yeah, hots aren't keeping anyone alive through burst damage and never have, a full hoj or poly isnt random, it's 6-7s of CC lol
TARGETED at you
You gotta trade
They gotta trade too
I will NEV kneel to the ancient of lore
NEV EV
Lmao no way
i believe it, shit is extremely bugged and broken
dude heroic raiding is the hardest shit ive ever done in my life
we cannot defeat boss number 1

Can anybody explain Survival's damage profile? Almost more than any other class, it feels like the damage comes out of nowhere. 2s (Rdru UDK)
i defeated boss number 2
surge is fun goldrinn still sucks though
i dont think its good either, but are we really linking a single 30 second details from double dps skirms to determine whether a talent is good?
Idk that it's out of nowhere, some of them even play badge, their damage is all on the CA window, they'll usually try to Explosive Shot into Fury into Flanking Strike during it.
trying to get a threes group going while qing skirms
The bear also does a lot when it comes out, idk if that can be tracked very well tho
at least Im trying new stuff instead of whining in rudars disc like it's the end of the world
whining is the new meta u gotta adapt and join them
it was hillarious like the mod lit just going back in fourth with the other guy for like 4 hours
the three animals rotate through in the same sequence right? so ig you could track the previous pet being summoned and after 28 seconds flash a "boar soon" type weakaura
pres evoker mainly this season
well still not as bad as chicken main
OFC PRES IS HOLOCAUST
shut up bro

i been pres all expansion
so your rerolling aug to play as my backup dragon
You should see pres dps in keys
i never will
if i see a pres in group
i just leave or not apply
that spec some ass
how is everything you say just lies and also bad its crazy
I just think kotg might as well hard spam surges sense dreamburst is bleh but who knows Ill test it later when I q 3s/shuffle
lake is plotting the downfall of the world
I would never
I have a sacred mission to make this world a better place than how I found it
then how come ur mean to me
watch the world burn
I extend kindness and empathy to people who do the same for me
yes and you'd be wrong, incredible

is it possible that guardian of claw + vers haste build is a thing for feral in solo
did anyone try this
with 4 set

All those things are true for Wildstalker too. DOTC has severe downsides in PVP, I doubt it could ever compete rn
Do you pronounce kotg as kot-gee or are u trolling
Koh-ruhguh
And DOTC is dough-ruh-cuh
Koh tog
Thats good too
I just say the letters tbh
I'm saying DOTC like Dota but with cuh instead of a
Koh tog or I just say keeper
@safe heart kotgee def
wtf
why that canadian dog is flaming
pres gods
@stray sigil explain
also if u are in a key with press evoker u should heal yourself
blooms are PRETTY SICK
It goes nasty in bg blitz with Early Spring @tiny oar
You put LB on 6 people and every Regrowth has CC deadass
ohhh yeaaa thats the good stuff we love to see it
cool
I hate league
how does it rank compared to poe?
a bit higher but still horrible
a bit higher but still horrible
ruins forsen for a bit
last time he played it for long enough to gain a viewerbase from lol-frogs
I guess it's fun to watch since he never got past silver 1 or something
i am now trying to push 2.1 on my shadow priest
evening guys
where can i find a discord\comunity chat with rbg guilds rectruitment ?
would check out oasis or worldofpvp communities
thanks ! ^^
How do we put LB on 6 people?
pres pig spec
wrong u little pig
someone just called my mount badass
he has no idea how much hatred , resentment, pain and self doubt this mount represents
Anyone who did prestige grind in Legions knows the seething rage inside you.....
what is a prestige grind for
the forms
dont u get those at like honor level 50 or something
some ppl started from 0
at the start it also gave you the pvp talents
and if you wanted the weapon mogs you lost your pvp talents
so from an earlier issue I think being unable to target myself during a specific window following /cancelform has to do with the game failing to register something, does anyone notice targeting issues in PvP when using like arena1 targeting macros playing against druids?
So here's a fun one. I've got these boots as a feral druid. Think they're worth keeping over conq boots?
Probably not but it wouldn't be the reason you lost if you wore em
Losing out on 13 ilvls tho
Just for like 1% speed
The bonus cloak proc was the part I was more considering
I'm pretty sure cloak is nerfed as fuck in pvp
It's 1/3rd potency, but still about 3% of my average damage.
Difference is probably what, ~700 main stat and about 5k stam? Maybe 100 total secondary stats.
This is just how it works in my mind but increasing 3% of your total damage is not worth losing damage on the other 97% of your damage
But idk just use it
Currently, I am. But at the point where it's the possible conq use so worth thinking about.
NOW you're cooking
yes
heroic version prob not worth it in pvp
mythic i would use
For sure, mythic version it's just vers heavier with the same stats and a bonus proc. So there's no question on that in my mind.
That was easy
Next question
Dude today was a total bust on sp
I basically just ended up where I started
So lame
I'm gunna upgrade some of my greens I thinm
I did get free weapon which was good
mythic would prob be fine heroic though nah
just finished up warcrate farming for the season across 8 toons that was 533 crates rounded down

think ur team needs to step it up a bit hope this helps
was shit unless u did the tower thingies
i did them on like 8 chars a day and got the forms so quick
i grinded from like 14 to w.e the last one was in bfa

I went 4-2
Carried the warrior one round
Bless up
You cant int me
I'm unintable
them dps need to try harder to split the healers more
never good for a dps when a healer is winning
solo a cursed game mode indeed

I never led el patron astray in my life
hello
hello
hello
Helli
A boomy friend trying to use root beam maco with the framesort healer stuff, we use this macro but seems not work, anyone can help?
#showtooltip
#FrameSort EnemyHealer
/cast [@none] SPELLNAME1; SPELLNAME2
Used this one before and seems only dropping beams but not entanglement, what type of macro did you use may I have a look
Maybe switch them around or press multiple times
Had same issue at one point
Never bothered to fix
So i just casted seperately
entangle is on gcd beam isnt
so depends if your gcd is ready or not just press button a few times
(order wont matter)
Probably thats why ye
Find the problem, I need to write Enemyhealer two times cause I casting 2 spell. This confirm works, I ask the author he gave me this and I just test it in shuffles
#showtooltip
#FrameSort EnemyHealer EnemyHealer
/cast [@none] Solar Beam
/cast [@none] Mass Entanglement
Your macro says @none
When you have a frame sort macro like that whenever someone gives it to you or it’s saved it says @none until you are in PvP content
You should type ‘EnemyHealer’ after the @
But test it in skirms
Also do you have frame sort? Cus if you don’t this macro won’t work
my guess is that the second line replaces the nones with what ever is in those slots
It does but the original macro when it’s saved has to have the above in it
And then when it’s saved it shows as @none
Ive had the exact problem before
Someone shared a framesort macro that works on their end cus they originally saved it with the correct format but it’s a dynamic macro
Only shows correctly in PvP instanced content
with that addon apparently
Only with frame sort
It’s pretty nifty so even if the enemy healer is arena 2, if you want them to be arena 1 it will always make the change to make it that for you
And the macros follow suit
Mine is set up so that my bind for healer poly / clone is always the same
I never have to think about their number and usually if it’s a melee caster comp melee is always arena 3
Etc
Works for your team too
If I wanna decurse my healer it’s always the same bind
It’s the most optimal ecosystem for macros
What is the most optimal ecosystem for water buffalos
Habitats of unchained peakers
water buffalos are sooo tough
we have those in finland......
@livid wasp
oh i see the Zecheys idol is playing League now
i hope u having fun mister
gotta enjoy POE next time
he already crashed out about that
lmao
god we recently had a HS phase too
boring
what really was fun was when he played pokemon heartgold nuzlocke
i was about to ask
Oh hell yeah
Good zechey take
Nuzlocke content is awesome
the recent streamer tourney thing
was fun content
didnt really watch any of it live but watched a lot of the yt recaps
he has those csgo faceit phases too
wait thats cs right?
Yeah
ye its chopped
xaxaxa
kick deal ig
fucking scumbags
Bro falcons beat vp 26-3 combined wtf
nah currently 16-2 vs BB
how do you beat this rofl
Oh no these vp players are shit
Icy is sometimes good but idk if he cant cut it against tier 1 or if VP cut his balls
flit and fame are legit riflers
but ye team jsut doesnt work
they benched and insane player for no reason
Hooxi is the star player gg
Think about it
Hooxi is bizarro zywoo
Xi hoo
I dunno
low key you cooked with that one unc
I just right click report as advertisement
solves most problems
ad their name to personal blacklist addon profit
Question, can the craftable PVP gear be upgraded to more reasonable levels? It shows 606 ilvl in PVP which seems really low by patch standards
using wrong upgrade
vegemite is good americans just suck at using it
Does anyone know how the wind walker crackling jade lightning build works? I dont know how to expect it.
HE JUST SMILED AND GAVE ME A VEGIMITE SANDWICH
is thorns (cat) ever a good pick in solo shuffle? i find it hard to get value out of it, even against melee heavy comps
id still pay him im ngl
i got like 20 mil i aint got time for shit crate farm
they press 20 chi spells
Yeah it’s definitely a good deal if you can spend 10k gold to save hours of your time in a really good crate farm vs a bad one. But if there’s nothing separating this group from a rando one then this person is collecting 250k just for making a regular group which is a little scummy
rdycrates addon has been paywalled
dude wtf is happening in csgo
I checked my inv randomly
and every case is selling for like $5 - $10
U could be rich if u have specific items
Chinese ppl been pumping the market
Last few weeks
Should he use the BOOTS
4
6
2
No
good
Glad we solved that
nice my ak is 750 dollars on steam market
knife 625
I wonder if anyone actually pays these prices
or if its just investors trading to each other
Unpopular opinion I tried Vegemite once and found it quite boring like I guess it was fine but nothing to really talk about
Just some basic stuff which barely taste of anything
Quite salty
vegemite + cheese on toast grilled
is banger
I googled vegemite, sounds and looks weird
wasnt planning to play anyway
hi, is there a guide for balance druid in 3v3?
Ok bro
good
why does everyone pt the embellishments elemental focusing lens on rings? can you not put it ona neck for the same affect? i put it on ring and neck is that bad?
double ring is fine though somtimes I like having one glad ring for vers in that case ring and necklace
Does being undergeared add a big % dmg taken debuff?
@velvet quest it was prob the one on the pally when I popped a surge off of 4 piece with less then a second on incarn
Idk I have scrolling dam disabled
was watching the vod of the game and the ret went from around 6 mill to dead off of the surge
Yeah that’s why 4 set is good for kotg boomkin 
yep "buy my stats"
just regem
if you care so much
that toon is cooked on gear though cause i messed up on 4 piece but still good
I prefer 4x wpvp for tier normally
turns out the undergeared dragon was our healer so chicken just op
Crazy unc
should of been aug guardian disc Lake's favorite comp
do u guys run any haste/mastery pieces as balance?
crafted, instead of vers secondary
I see some rdruids running haste mastery pieces, wondering if its worth as boomy
I still have 28% vers w/ these legs and 4 pc\
I have like 33/34 depending on race with 4 piece Im all haste vers not counting a certain foot piece I might go for later this season
you can prob go lower though if you want to for extra mastery though
can get up to 32% if i change my cloak gem too
which ever feels better for you personally
can test both
now I wonder if I should weak aura track the dryad buff or just keep playing like normal I do tech have an incarn tracker on my screen
For PVP always go vers for the damage reduction
holytuff
thinnk he shadowmelds it all
especially the incap
big true
Any pvpers?
Ultra instinct style?
for Feral PVP WS bg build ... I have a wiggle talent with the Moonfire in Cat form or applying Rake to 2 targets .. I tend to not use Moonfire as much as I should and was wondering if swapping it for the 2 application Rake would be more ideal for a bg environment... thoughts please
Im new to Feral and druid in general is there some hidden reason everyone uses Moonfire instead from what I'm seeing on top pvping builds?
ranged builder and don't have to use energy on shred to get bloodtalons.
It's also just another DoT which scales with sabertooth and a few other toys.
@grand mesa i swear ligase is like the all time zero to hero wow player
shes streaming a 19 floodgate right now
pushes like 3800 io now, shes insane
she's insane
multi glad
too now i think
or shuffle iforget
Question, in Solo RBG queue, is there a way to request NOT to be part of the opposing faction? I keep getting swapped and the opposite faction BLOWS
no
damn fr?
never been lapped so hard in my life
thats gonna be me this season
The corn dog cat?
no lol multiglad
😿


draconic only and selfplayed
Unchained peaker
do you keep a journal entry for every woman who plays wow that is better than you at the game?
only for the hot ones
just insane lore to drop in a conversation that ur not a part of about someone who doesnt know ur name like what is the goal there lol
holy fuck LOL
that was crazy from mayo ngl
@tiny oar that's a big orc
irony is I was a dk main before a druid that was a long arse time ago prob mop
was a rogue main before that
how come when i queue for BGs im always instance leader?
Maybe fastest to load in
just the best
game recognize game
my current pc is super fast so I tend to get lead more times then I want
I just pass it to a rando
Alliance always wins when I queue
(i get 1500 points by myself)
(rest of the players are ncps)
I mean alliance is the pvp faction
they should be winning more
horde has enlistment bonus for a reason
thats illegal
🥀
I’m pretty new to boomy but was looking for some advice. Played yesterday to about 2100 but was mostly lobbied with at least 1-2 casters. Then 4 lobbies in a row with 3 melee and all had a DH. Just got stomped back down to 1950 going 2-4 or 1-5. What the heck can I do against triple melee. Just brutal.
Usually what I do as sp in those situations is crash out in chat
It’s like every lobby is poor me and a ret, DH, and warrior.
I just have to Que at like 5am est. that’s when the non Americans play and they actually play other thing than zug zug melee
I’ve determined solo shuffle is a plague on this game
I forgot that I actually like playing the game when I play 2s or 3s and not solo shuffle
shuffle killed the best bracket
(2s)

2s is so fun act
I thought you were puzzle
new pfp
2s isnt fun
too many rdruids ruining it
Are the mw monks in 2s fistweaving or just normal build
Fuji isn’t wrong
Fist before the nerf
Not sure now
I need to help my boy get 1800 , was gunna do fury mw 2s
add glad 2 2s profit
prob riddled with only pres now
Idk it can feel unfun if ur comp sucks
Like hpriest boomkin
Or if ur melee fighting bm rdruid
well bm ruins every bracket
yeah but i feel like in 2s comps feel like hard counters more so than in other brackets
and its like im on a 5 minute timer to try to win the game even if they do nothing but my class cant do anything against them so its gonna be miserable the whole time
Yeah ur on the clock
Lose on 3rd call of the wild. Or 4th lol
or fighting demo rsham on robodrome as a melee and u get 1 gcd of dmg off during ur cds and ur like yeah this is going great
@late wraith was trying to learn some destro last season in 2s and fought warrior like 8 games in a row
also never forget our 2s comp of sub rogue+obr sub rogue where we fought rets and hpals every game
yeah but bleed dispel could finally help pres find a spot in the meta
and bubble/bop could make rets viable again as well
take that back 

i played some ww last night in 3s
why am i tagged into this hell hole
it went so good i decided im not going to try it again until next expansion
is it to see the dude being weird about women
cause i already saw mayo body that guy
no its to talk about 2s counters
oh anything that beats us is a counter ez
thats not true sometimes we win despite it being a counter cause we are just that good
what are your thoughts on fighting warr+rsham in 2s as destro
and if someone were to suggest that u should just fear more what would u say to them
a normal and balanced review of shamans from me
i mean anytime anyone tells me i should do something more i ignore them and seethe so i dunno
you shouldve melded the incap
lol holy
I’m innocent
WE all agree
real
I like to warm up in 2s
It’s also just a fun mode. Solo shuffle is not
Arenas without communication is hell
Straight up hell
tank heals 2s is hillarious to watch just drag the game out against the other team forever
that sounds like so much fun definitely something I pay monthly for to face in this game
just like prot palas in skirms

3s > shuffle > 2s > skirms > random bgs > blitz bg > epic bg > wpvp
Shuffle 🤮
Shuffle stinks
Wait 25 min in q to get wrecked by a ret
Or have your team mates be on a completely different page
Make mistakes think about how to improve on them 30 min go by before you can apply anything
Shuffle is fine as an every once in awhile thing
I see two puzzles
Outside of that its just a meme bracket for the meta specs of the season
use for shuffle is caue getting 2 people to play with consistenly is a pain(for me at least)
otherwise I would q 3s over it anyday
I wanna play with a spriest too but I only know hunters
well you are the hunter's third pet
kinda
0 chance
only ppl who dont like 2s are the ones who are shit at it


2s is just the new form of dueling outside orgrimmar
so you will play prot pres then
3s>2s>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blitz>>>>>shuffle
i think you have to have the world's strongest mental to be good at shuffle and i simply do not
i have the world's weakest
blitz can be good cause u might randomly queue at 4am at 1300 and see someone named taylorswift and assume its face so u keep mcing them under the bridge like the stupid little troll that they are
@late wraith or turn off brain what I do
ironicly climb rating better the less I think
i don't think anything in this game has made me crash out like shuffle did
like genuinely not good for my mental health to do shuffle i don't think lol. i'm built diff (worse)
i dont think its about thinking less its more just doing the pattern recognition part fast enough that you decide what to do without having to think and ur playing faster?
prob yeah
i think it's about crying and being real mad and beating yourself up
that's what i think it's about
is it crashing out cause of your mistakes or teammates mistakes?
or ppl complaining
i do the opposite of what you're supposed to do in shuffle and assume everything is my fault and i failed everyone
i think i'd be fine if i could just blame the healer and move on go next
for increasing skill I think the start, until the "and" is reasonable
but just making mistakes obviously wouldnt mean youd fail ppl
and people have generally been pretty nice to me in there. i had one rough lobby where people were mean but overall not terrible
however its ofc hard to get out of that habit
so it's not even that
yea I agree there have made similar experiences
it's just the real rough self hate when i lose which just feels like not a good thing for me to keep doing if i get so upset ya know?
i don't feel i'm missing out on anything i have a 3s team
ofc shitty ppl are there too but its not particularly terrible compared to other online gaming situations, including random 3s
nah I agree
if you dont enjoy it/feel bad after
dont play
especially if you have more fun in premade
@livid wasp
i also don't necessarily feel there's much for me to learn in there anymore that translates to 3s that i can't learn by doing 2s/3s/duels with friends to try to figure shit out
cause i used to feel guilty that i could be improving for 3s in there
but i don't necessarily feel that way anymore
I absolutely think you can learn for 3s in shuffle, and that its substantially better compared to duels or bgs
however premade 2s/3s ofc likely even better
even if that wouldnt be your "main" team
yeah i mean i just have multiple boomies and do a whole lot of 3s and 2s.
but also not everything needs to be done to improve as much as possible, having fun is also very very important to improving in skill
if you are miserable you wont improve, if you cant honestly look at the gameplay cause you are tilted for w/e reason - either teammates or self blame also helps a lot less
and i agree i could learn in there, i just don't feel i NEED to do it to learn anymore if that makes sense.
like i used to feel i was holding my team back by not doing it
do what I do and make a blood dk just to troll lobbies
note also like frost
modern unholy sucks cause fucking wounds
just rem spore was real (tully monster fossil)
looks like mes is on blood dk and it's actually viable
I went 2-4 in a bdk shuffle lobby the other day
Unbearable
They do a lot of damage tbh
Tuff
Shuffle 
ngl if u leave them alone they will fuck u up
had one lobby where everyone just full targetted the DK and he went 0-6 tho 
So can someone explain this to me. Because I’m not understanding. Surge shuffle on check pvp is 72-54 and is setting at 2670 rating. I’m 83-66 setting at 1681. How is the rating difference that much?
You arent playing in the same lobbies
3-3 against 2400 people is very different than 3-3 vs 1500
just mmr
finishing your football game 0-1 vs the spain national teem is different to finishing 0-1 vs the vatican national team
if u 6:0 the 1200 mmr lobby
u are like 2500 mmr
gamer
2500 0:6 mmr gamer*
something like that
Ok, makes more sense. I’m still trying to comprehend the mmr.
It's just a rating, youre matched with others based on your mmr, same as any rated game, usually games follow some system like ELO in chess, etc
It's like enten said
There is some mmr bleed over from previous seasons on that character/spec too, so you dont start at the same starting point as the very best players every season ofc
which part doesnt make sense?
Well like you said, going 0-1 vs bad team is different than 0-1 against good. I get that. But every game I’ve had in shuffle so far with boomie has been either 3, 4, 5 win matches. Not like I’ve had a bunch where I finish 1 or 2 wins. Like I know I’m not going anywhere close to r1 rank or anything like that. I usually get elite set and try for 2k. I started doing PvP s1 of the war within for the first time. Now it’s all I pretty much do. So lots of learning to do still. But i understand what you guys are saying. But how many games do you have to play and win till you get to the better mmr? Like I feel as if it’s a grind to get to 1800 . And I’ve done better this season than last. But 1800 came quick last season and my record was way worse
you need to steadily continue to win 4 or above
but if you go 3 or less its gunna lower your mmr
why are you talking about your record?
that doesnt matter
Each round should be worth around 12 rating/mmr I think, maybe 10, if you're playing vs evenly matched people.
MMR gets inflated by blizzard behind the veil over the season and then it all gets deflated back on new season start + some amount of decay further than the inflation reset too.
So if you played last season at the tail end, starting mmr may have been around 1800-1900 and at new season you started from 1550-1600, for instancce.
There any world where Elune works in Balance? BGB only?
Ok cool. I understand. I appreciate the help guys. Sometimes this brain doesn’t function properly lol
Also how do you guys manage stance dancing; I can't seem to make a macro set that can get me into the right stance all the time..
you should probably try to elaborate
🤯
I'm sure there are people that play EC in arena, but boomie wins games by doing war crimes damage on incarn and KOTG adds a big % modifier to that
I just mean is there an easier way to manage changing stances all the time - I have a quick one for travel into boom and back again, or do I just add more buttons for stances
Yeah sorry, warrior brain on that
but yes if you want to go in other forms you also need to hotkey them
prolly biggest one is bear even tho you dont wanna use it that much you will have to
cat less important but ofc should also be bound
(as chicken which you seem to be)
i am chicken
Yeah I think this 'stance dancing' perspective and trying to make one button flip between multiple is not helping you
like dash and prowl auto-cat, so I am ok with that, I guess I need to macro out things like frenzied and then have it go back to boomie after? It's my one turnoff with druid is so much extra work hoping between forms fluidly
Bind each form, press the bind to go into it, trying to do it like warrior that only has 2 isn't even gonna save you keybinds
maybe its finally time to get an MMO mouse; I am full of buttons already (this is where trying to macro-merge forms into spells started)
like "ok dude is on me, he trinketed rootbeam, faerie on CD, I am going bear, frenzied, Barkskin, stunned him ok base form to heal, now boomkin form to dps a bit, shit ok travel form and vault, root, back to boomkin, re-dot, base form and heal, back to boomkin" ahhh
was hoping you guys would say "oh yeah here is how we handle it, you just do this and this" but it seems to really be "no dude, you just keep pressing forms like mid-2000s keyboard cat"
welcome to wow
that too
Dont do that
Boomie really doesnt do all that and you can also take the talent Fluid Form so you can go into Boomie form via Wrath/Starfire instead
yeah I would hit Renewal, Regrowth, but if I had a sec (los for example) I would rejuv and WG as well
guess I just skip last two
can cast RG in chicken and renewal in any form
it would be incredibly rare that you leave forms completly
prolly only somewhat reasonable situation is if you wanna use human wild charge
gotcha - think I was just focusing too much on casting every hot
People already told you “you just do this and this” do you want to be able to swap between 4-5 forms with less than 4 binds?
Also in your hypothetical situation you would be casting clone instead of heal like every single time
I disagree with that
Nah there’s a lot of condescension
I'm a widdle angel dont you dare talk shit
He got like 10 responses to a simple question I feel like that’s a lot of patience idk
Eh it's all good, I've been playing wow 20 years, you just learn to grab the advice and ignore the rest - most discs people will help you once they recognize you're just new to the class/spec and not PVP in general
Yeah but the snark and elitism in response is a theme here
Name and shame 
Like the dad who has no idea what mmr is
@velvet quest is the most condescending of all
He cons you into playing with him meanwhile your rating is descending
Yes the ultimate scheme
Idk it’s just like if someone isn’t understanding or not on your level of knowledge it’s not like you’re better than them and being snarky doesn’t help them at all
This isn't bad tbh, there are subs that just relentlessly shit on you for simple questions
It's just a cultural thing too
Like mage
Enten is german
Evoker disc is kindest place possible - no bad questions, i've never seen someone shit on someone, everyone jsut out to help
I live in the midwestern portion of the US i can’t fathom not being patient / kind in my responses but that’s a fair point too
Idk dude I just feel like everyone starts where they start and it’s a better discord & gaming environment to be constructive
But yeah if you don’t have an mmo mouse def get one
Also idk if you talent fluid form as boomie
But you can bind those abilities outside of your forms
Don’t believe face I ask face questions and he calls me an idiot on the regular
Absolutely toxic human
I keep telling myself "dude you push on outlaw, you push on ele, you're used to 100 buttons" but druid just.. i keep feeling like there's gotta be an easier way but I guess that's the nuance
Yeah I dont feel that any druid spec has particularly the most buttons
dont agree
Like Arms for sure has 3 or 4 more 'rotational' spells like 20s or shorter
But you cant quite map 1 to 1 so it prob feels weird
I wouldnt want to put bear form on my Cleave keybind or vice versa
I do think I have patience with new players, I dont have patience with people blaming others/dont look for mistakes in their own play
or people defending their bad ideas as alternative play
thats where I lose patience
Makes since tbh this is all via written text too maybe I am picking up on snark that isn’t there
Maybe you have some space around your WASD resting position to open up more keybinds, or use more modifiers
I mainly noticed it when we were questioning why the dad was confused about mmr
And tbf I do have sort of a stance dancing macro for bear/cat form
sure thats someone trying to blame their bad play/bad skill on matchmaking
But it just works out to being almost the same as just binding one to C and the other to shift C
Thats not what I got from it at all
Nah he just didn’t understand the difference between mmr and CR
He clearly didn’t PvP regularly other than for xmog
Prior
wait when did that happen?
I thought that was the recent one
because that was not cr vs mmr
that was winrate in different mmrs
And after a bit of elaborating, I think the confusion was very fair if he was playing at >1800mmr trivially last season and now he has a very positive win rate after many lobbies and still hasnt hit that same rating
The over time inflation isn't obvious or intuitive if you never paid attention before
while I may have lost a bit of patience here, dont think was particularly angery, there have been a lot worse times when people actually fully misunderstood matchmaking in pvp games
ye rereading maybe the last one was a bit snarky but even that one I dont think was overly coulda elaborated better but face did that
beause idd the inflation is a bit counter intuitive
The part that confused me was I didn’t think Vatican City had a football team, did you mean soccer?
Vatican city also doesnt have a soccer team
which makes losing to them 1-0 even worse
Not anymore, they disbanded it now that the pope is unitedstatian.
Gridiron football team is in the works
so they might have an american football team
just playing on the peters square or what ever its called in engilsh
st peters square
I was close
Slowly whittling it down; realizing spell priorities and stuff I can de-focus a bit on, also accepting a few things are just leaving (wanted to make stellar flare work for example but I find most of the time it's not worth the GCD for the dmg it provides)
now its just figuring out nuanced things like when should I bear-frenzied vs heart-bear-frenzied etc
folten is better than all the rest of you
ww pvp disc is super nice, we should be nice like them not clowns like i dunno... trueshot or warrior or priest or whatever
Maybe but also maybe not
girl where tf do you find this shit
why does the stick float behind him then disappear
it's ai
Its real
Idk where David finds his shit
The space melts it away

yeah absolutely it says it right in the corner
it just like.. they don't even pretend to try
No its 100% real
churning out slop at the slop factory mmm yes another day of doing next to nothing
I saw this happening in real life

doubt
they are nice in spite of you
they also have all 0 iq

wrong its even worse over thjere
glad that we stoppe being nice to ppl posting stupid shit
anyway where the fuck does david find this stupid shit

i have 723 set legs, is that the same pvp set legs? do they scale the same in pvp if its the same ilvl
yea
2.4 for all classes
im so jealous of you all bein able to play the game
im still 800 cr shuffle too scared to queue
I can only do it cuz I don't care anymore
I'm just getting 2.1 for the seasonal stuff, assuming I cannot get glad and never looking at it again
im jealous
what do you mean by this
Im waiting until next week when every toon gets 4 piece then Ill prob start the season Idk
Im lazy
if u mean weapons
its 2.1
not 2.4
other person confidently wrong
2.4 is literally only a tabard unlock
Yeah I mean the weapons
I thouhht i remembered you saying that
2050 on sp today , will finish it Thursday
Oh, I did NOT think you meant the weapons.
That's just not me understanding the question lol.
Mb ❤️
what did u think was meant when u said 2.4 for all classes
is that new?
It's what I got for elite last season
I got spammed with every single transmog set unlocking at once
idk if i believe that
youd get the elite transmog for 1800
Oh yeah I realize I didn't specifically say weapons
Both me and my 2s partner noticed it. Dunno what to tell you.
I can only go off what I saw last season when I hit it
do you have elite sets for classes u never played last season?
Yea I want the elite weapon transmogs but probably won't bother going to 2.4
2.4 gets freer the longer the ssn
just get 2,1 and sit on ur mmr
I like it
and inflation will get u to 2.4 naturally
Maybe I do it then
2.4 isn't like super freelo for me so I'd have to try
Gyatdam
idk the number but its prob like
10-15mmr/week
so u do the math if the ssn has like 3+ more months left
Legend is still just pennant right
ye
i dont even bother with legend
think i had like
20/100 at 2.7 cr

and im not rly all that good at ww/ww is kinda fucking lobby dependant
so i rly cba
Legend is so free tho once ur 2.4
Like as dumb as the pennant is, getting another 100 wins is nothing
shuffle is only fun if like ur class isnt getting omega aids'd in shuffle
ww is ur perma aid'sd
really frustrating to play
imop
so like yes its true
but also u have to force urself to play into some terrible shit
Yea you could just get 2.4 then be free and save your mental
like if i played ret
Can't underrate that
i dont think i will ever get legend the only chance id have is if i really enjoyed healing for a season and wanted to grind a bunch
i got legend 1 time i think was crimson
cuz shuffle was new so was fun
and the qs werent 40mins long either
now its just a hassle for a omega budget glad title
i play alts intending to get 1800 and usually give up after 2 lobbies even if theyre going well

like last season i think i went 6-0 on feral and then 5-1 and was like man this sucks im quitting itll be too hard next lobby im not built for that mmr
quit while i was ahead
I'm brave
does anyone actually enjoy shuffle tho? like do the ret/dh players do it cause they enjoy it or cause they wanna feed their inflated egos while hating every second of it
i mean i enjoy it problem is
the qs are too long for the quality of the gameplay im part of
so it tilts me pretty hard
if i had healer qs on dos
dps
wouldnt be this tilting
yeah but the queue times are part of shuffle u cant separate it
sure u can just saying the gameplay is fine
and its what leads to a worse experience for any dps main
the wait time is dog
where u cant just "go next" and mental reset u have to sit there and be mad for a half hr after a bad lobby
idk i also think it sucks to go 6-0 and feel like ur owning and then sit another 30 minute queue
I rather wait and play shuffle than run into a premade in Random BGs and waste my time from the waiting in queue + the BG
Because it's happening more and more lately.
if its random bg and u get stomped first team fight u just take deserter and swap next char u dont lose anything
what if i have 1 char

Yeah healing shuffle is honestly more fun and it's literally because you can actually get a queue when you want it
It's so frustrating to queue for shuffle, find something to fill the gap then like right when you get a pop you're in the middle of something else
Only reason I'm doing sp and not mw is cuz I'm scared after the nerfs
meep got r1 ladder post nerf in 6h

Yea having his mmr helps but I'm also not that good
Yeah as dps when you hit the queue button ur just committed and if u want to go do something else 20m later u would feel like u just threw away that time so u stay in queue anyways
I thought meep quit wow
why do u trhink all the r1s are just perma online ppl
Was he just grounded?
he came back i think he said for awc
nah he got a gf iirc
Is it eiya

good
ok dumb boomie question - I have dots up, I dont have enough AP for Starsurge; is my filler Starfire or Wrath?
get into solar by using starfire and spam wrath
depending on if ur being hit ur gonna have owlkin for insta starfires to get into solar
gotcha, thx!
Im going to make that guy that played guardian druid with me back in sl heal my blood dk in 2s as revenge
finally get him back
Go get him lad!
I keep bricking 12s
Making me so mad bruv
Can't tell if I don't heal enuf or dps just don't know what to do loll
Is the 4piece tier worth it for balance?
They die insta they suck
They die slow they suck too
I mean u can just check what they die from
riot games is the biggest cancer in gaming industry
🤯
Yoo mexi
league = 🐒
dota = 🍷
valorant = 🥀
cs = 
Just gotta be careful with the slippery slope of cope
Checking that is helpful to becoming more aware of what can happen in that pull, dungeon, etc
But healers be out here bricking fully healable situations and thinking they did great cuz people took avoidable damage thus they wash their hands
The worst feeling when I tank a key is realizing the healer wont be able to keep up in certain spots if I pull the way I want to
Needing to go slow sucks
okay my take is probably wrong now
Yeah this is my worry
this is one of the worst takes out there




