pvp

[safe heart]

Well not raid but if you mean gambit dragon then yes

[tardy hare]

We all m+ gamers now

[wintry jackal]

[clear pulsar]

Feed me an arakara

I cant man these pug tanks are animals. Legit I did a floodgate up to big momma where I had 17 kicks and the PROT PALA had 12

People got harpoond the fuck out

[livid wasp]

I dont get it

why do people play m+ when its not fun

[tardy hare]

Bruh i got 2 keys bricked today

First by a bug in tazavesh where the item was not interactable

Then second one

I make a great team

Beastboynick

Ricflairdrip

And retripal

Couldnt be bigger pumprs

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1207456268516589600/1411662224455499908/2b32db892ffc1b6b7e993b557f878aeb.png?ex=68b57865&is=68b426e5&hm=fc95c7aae1c506ea7fecc06689b318a46e7c931a904501d70db870eeb3cb3fee&

And then he went afk just before first boss

👍

Hunter at one point

"pala use single button, its more dps"

[grand mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703989285828689953/1411715446540992673/image.png?ex=68b5a9f6&is=68b45876&hm=857474ed873f94ecdc714b1fcefffcf4556c4799dbe2ee8bab75a891b9e97fd0&

You see the freshest MC tech?

The dark blades

in HOA

[proud tangle]

It’s fun when there’s no consequence

[livid wasp]

but its boring you just kill npcs

[proud tangle]

But fun cuz easy dopamine and you never lose

[livid wasp]

what about the key demotes cause someone sucks or leaves

[proud tangle]

U need the crests anyway to get it back up

[safe heart]

i think a big thing about m+ is it never feels like bullshit when you die and shit

like in arena i can just legit get stopped every 3 seconds on my shadow priest and am physically unable to play the game

but yeah not losing points when you fail is big

makes it easy to focus on moving forward instead of putting a gun in your mouth when you lose 200 cr in a sitting

[proud tangle]

pvp challenges people, pve doesnt, humans like organic comfort

= pvp games are dying out

[stray sigil]

its fun to just hit buttons and do dmg

[tardy hare]

Big number on details go brrrrr

[safe heart]

networking in pvp is also a nightmare

[stray sigil]

also thats very wrong lol

[safe heart]

way easier to find groups for m_

m+

[tardy hare]

I've played with the same person since wod lmao

Fuck other people

[stray sigil]

cuz theres like 100 m+ers for every pvper

[safe heart]

yea

[proud tangle]

[safe heart]

in pvp i can join a group, make 1 mistake leading to a loss and get kicked instantly and theyll never invite me again

[tardy hare]

This happens to people in my party in pve too

[stray sigil]

thats good though

dodged a bullet

[safe heart]

in pve i can go next all day every day np

[livid wasp]

rather just do random bgs with no fear of rating loss

[stray sigil]

bgs is aids nowadays

[livid wasp]

just premades make it kinda lame

[stray sigil]

with ppl exploiting the addon thing

so they premade no matter waht

[safe heart]

i like pvp and id probably like it more if i played with a group of friends instead of pugging but m+ i can easily have fun just pugging

[stray sigil]

also pvp rn is complete dog ass

[safe heart]

i havnet played it enough lately to even really know

[stray sigil]

if ur not a ret/hunter/arcane

cba

forgor boomy

that one too

[clear pulsar]

Lmao what the shit

[clear pulsar]

Bear was afk too?

[tardy hare]

Yeah thats my mentally disabled homie

[clear pulsar]

Fancy words for 'guardian druid'

[grand mesa]

Yeah a priest is carrying that dark blade around and each boss and mini gets blasted lol

[tardy hare]

[tardy hare]

Hmm thats smart, need to keep that in mind

[viscid remnant]

only wow

[random patrol]

#nerfwhateverbeatsmethisround

which healer is the op one though

prob resto druid if your zechey

[clear pulsar]

Pres

[wintry jackal]

low mmr but this was an arcane fire ret lobby

i think this proves orange > blue and pink

idk

[safe heart]

I want 1-6 on my first feral lobby at 2k mmr lol

It's over

[random patrol]

time for guardian aug disc qs

I would assume ec 4 piece for guardian Idk I dont do bgs

[wintry jackal]

it felt like that for me lol

feels a lot better now

[wicked marsh]

723 Astral weapon haste + vers or a crafted 720 haste+mastery with nerubian embellishment. which is better?

resto druid

[clear pulsar]

Foxyllama streaming some m+ too

Huge

[clear pulsar]

723, craft energy redistribution beacon on other slots as your embellishment

[wicked marsh]

ty

[stray sigil]

the ginger himself

hes like 3k io or some shit

[wintry jackal]

back to 2.1k and on the climb

clawing my way back lmao

was at 2.4k mmr before my tilt sesh

[livid wasp]

youre so good

I havent even queued in days

[tropic schooner]

good for you

[wintry jackal]

lol ty and i am not good, scraping by with 4-2s and 3-3s

just q'ing while doing chores

[random patrol]

I haven't qd a rated game yet on most toons

[wintry jackal]

i regret stoping q'ing

after i hit 2.4k last szn my wife got hooked on fortnite lol so i stopped playing wow

and i think that's why it was so rough coming back

this szn i am going for glad though

[safe heart]

I make new sp as dwagon

[random patrol]

good

[clear pulsar]

@tepid spoke I hate early spring nothing works with it man

Harmonious Blooming and Budding Leaves dont work, Flourish doesnt extend, I'm surprised Verdancy does, but then Verdancy is still trash

[wintry jackal]

does anyone know someone who can craft the tier 3 items

specifically leather

[clear pulsar]

Puzzle prob knows

Or just ask in trade

[tropic schooner]

should unlock that at some point too

[wintry jackal]

i have been spamming in trade rip

@grand mesa know anyone on moon guard? or I can transfer servers

[grand mesa]

Don’t know anyone specifically no

I forget what I did exactly for that

[clear pulsar]

I have determined, after careful theorycrafting and calculation

KOTG 4p is not worth running

@random patrol was right all along fr

[stray sigil]

u coulda just check pvpd corkyi

and didnt need to do any calculation

[clear pulsar]

The calculation was

I played 1 game and checked details

It's assssss

[tiny oar]

I have determined, after careful theorycrafting and calculation
All gearing opinions are useless and just need to rip harder

[safe heart]

gear is a crutch as fuck ngl

[random patrol]

@clear pulsar I did 30 3s skirms to test it myself

15 with 15 without

4 piece on guardian though

fun but like you have to play a tank in pvp

ew

only tank allowed is brew

[vestal citrus]

I have determined, after careful theorycrafting and calculation
All lifting opinions are useless and just need to hop on gear

real or real @stray sigil

hop on the test

[wintry jackal]

lol

an engineerd mediocre phsyique will still be a mediocre phsyique

unfort there's no short cuts

unless you lock in diet training and sleep

[clear pulsar]

I geet it bro you're on tren

[wintry jackal]

look at togi

[tiny oar]

dont do tren guys you'll ruin ur beautiful twink physique

[vestal citrus]

fuji twink physique

I'm built like a D1 middle linebacker

but the roids would turn me into prime aaron donald

[random patrol]

just bench 200 lbs profit

[vestal citrus]

light work

[clear pulsar]

I take it all back, I had just misunderstood how the set looks in Details

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

It's a no-brainer actually

Just wear 4p fr

[tiny oar]

who'd have guessed

[clear pulsar]

@velvet quest was right all along

[tiny oar]

U MEAN ME BRO

[velvet quest]

i take back the terrible things i was planning to say about u face

lake dont u dare stolen valor me over this

[tiny oar]

IM THE ONE WHO SUGGESTED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE TY

[velvet quest]

were u just looking at the splash dmg and not the larger surges?

[clear pulsar]

The big bait is that the splash damage is the one that shows on details separate

Yeah lmao

[velvet quest]

yeah i assumed thats what voodoo did too

[stray sigil]

i already said 4p is dogshit

move along

[velvet quest]

4p is good for conduit thats what we decided

[random patrol]

@tiny oar you ready for aug guardian disc

@clear pulsar the only thing really known about balance druid atm is it needs a huge nerf along with arcane and maybe mm

prob ret to

[clear pulsar]

Thing with 4p is that the value on the tooltip that you get is still gonna be buffed up by all your Starsurge modifiers

So getting idk 250k on the tooltip probably ends up being 3-4x as much added to the actual Starsurge

[random patrol]

your surges hit for more with 4 piece also cause of mastery being higher more so then the bonus

2 percent (4 percent with double dip)

[stray sigil]

[random patrol]

Ill just wait 2 more weeks before accepting if its good or not

that's when everyone can get 4 piece that's high rated

tldr follow what top players are trending in the meta mid to late season over idiots in discord(including myself) are doing

[clear pulsar]

No

[grand mesa]

Man this channel is active lately

Is PvP back

[random patrol]

I miss when it was the poe channel

pvp is uh kind of a meme atm @grand mesa

[clear pulsar]

@grand mesa log in let me duel you

[grand mesa]

I’m out of town

[grand mesa]

Yeah I see enough screen shots of arcane barrage on Twitter

[random patrol]

now prob worth qing until week 15

not*

[grand mesa]

Surprised there’s no tuning. Usually there’s a pvp tuning pass that bonks outliers even before RWF finishes. Like the super egregious shit like 15m arcane barrages

wild

[random patrol]

I think we have awc soon idk

[clear pulsar]

KOTG 4p is holocaust damage

Dont let anyone tell you that shit isnt worth running

[stray sigil]

uve never seen holocaust dmg

u 500 dps doer

[clear pulsar]

Wrong

On KOTG boomkin even I can do holoc P

[stray sigil]

@viscid remnant whats likelyhood of that

[grand mesa]

When people on Twitter complain about specs

Boomkin on the list

I believe Mr. 500

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar

[random patrol]

backfill bgs

aka sloppy seconds wow edition

[clear pulsar]

Yeah so during incarn + treants uptime, everything going etc, the actual raw damage added is ~6x as much as the tooltip says, ~5x on players with 30% vers, less than that on walls and shit ofc.

I've got it adding 1.6-1.7M damage per surge

[random patrol]

horde is bad but I need to get the free heraldry

[vestal citrus]

damn boi thats wild

cookin up

[clear pulsar]

Finish up the dryad uptime with 2 dream burst wraths and the 2 buffed surges and you 100-0 someone everytime

Lining that all up back to back is tight tho, but still

[random patrol]

maybe third times a charm

on this toon

[clear pulsar]

Doing boomie shuffle placement is legendary

[stray sigil]

show dps

[clear pulsar]

The poor warrior died on opener all 6 rounds

Nothing to see

[tiny oar]

insane comms

[vestal citrus]

boomy buffs are about to hit too

boomy is gonna be holocaust dam

[clear pulsar]

Buffs?

[random patrol]

a person linked an old class tuning in balance chanel

boomkins can't stand their not op in wow's third mini game(that's raids)

like their already op in mplus and pvp

mind you they are ironicly really bad in raid

[vestal citrus]

oh lol

fk

[random patrol]

yep

I think the mod fast deleted it

was the sept 3rd 2024 hotfixes

4/8 druids set up

will finish the rest later

having to do a bg until you win takes a bit if your lazy and afk epic

[clear pulsar]

Yeah lmao it took me so long to get that

I couldnt win shit

[random patrol]

took first toon 1 bg

second one 5

somehow my main got it in skirms

but it's like guerenteed in epics

if you win

[clear pulsar]

But if you lose it's such a slog to wait it out

I think regular bg is bis queue for it

I was hostage for 25 mins in an isle of conquest that had a bunch of afks, doomed to lose, couldnt lose any faster

[random patrol]

I was sniping fotm reroll chickens

only I get to play bird

#nerfboomy

[surreal heron]

it was self deleted so they got fooled themself 🤦‍♂️

[random patrol]

good

@clear pulsar can you post the part of details showing the tier dam

when you get a chance

testing ec 4 piece wish I had a mastery stack chicken for it

[clear pulsar]

It's just starsurge damage

The part in details is the splash only

The direct add to Starsurge doesn't get its own entry

[random patrol]

k

yeah ec 4 piece decent though I feel like ec still behind

[tiny oar]

hi thyme nice to see you here c:

[clear pulsar]

Hitting over 4M surges, 6.5M crits

[surreal heron]

i hate it here

[clear pulsar]

Idk if that's very large but it feels large to me

[tiny oar]

me too

[clear pulsar]

I also just realized I was playing without the 5yd clone talent

[random patrol]

troll

Lake hurry up and play aug bear disc

I got a druid I can set up

well 11 of them

[tiny oar]

u will never once in ur entire life see me press the augmentation spec selection

[random patrol]

@tiny oar play disc then

I got an aug

[tiny oar]

also not playing with augs on principle

[random patrol]

I hope they rework boomy to a support class next expansion

[tiny oar]

beta boy low T ass spec

[random patrol]

just to really f with balance channel

[tiny oar]

they should delete boomkin and #balance

[random patrol]

nah delete resto

not real druids until they get their perma form back

perma tree was hillarious

real fucked up part is broccoli, kale, cabbage and brussel sprouts are all the same species

it's the dog of plants

[clear pulsar]

Ok but what the fuck do I do after I oom in blitz

[tardy hare]

Dont oom, you're too pretty to be oom

[clear pulsar]

I carried that shit, we had the bottom 4 DPS, 2 warrior on each team and both enemy warriors did 3x the damage that our 2 warriors did

Winning tho

Absolute mordor game

[viscid remnant]

press meld and drink ?

https://tenor.com/view/corndog-cat-corndogcat-cat-corndog-cat-corndog-gif-4306271185269626105

[clear pulsar]

I cant

I was melding the incap

[viscid remnant]

cuz u are not a clanker like me

[velvet quest]

@clear pulsar u bgbing?

[clear pulsar]

A little

[velvet quest]

like in one rn?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

In the trenches

Absolute trenches

[velvet quest]

i made u swim

im also in trenches

[clear pulsar]

Omg hahahaha

You tryna give me a bath all game

[weak tundra]

How do we heal as RDU now after got 4 pieces?

[velvet quest]

top dmg, team sucked, nothing to be done about it ofc

[clear pulsar]

There's 0 chance voidweaver is bis right?

[clear pulsar]

I'm not sure it changes how you play

[velvet quest]

as spriest? no idea im just trying to get my weapon quest done and in the meantime im trying to figure out if spriest is fun or if im committing to gearing hpriest

[clear pulsar]

I dun' it

[vestal citrus]

Grats king

[clear pulsar]

Ty my last game was a kotmogu where I kept this boomie alive the whole map holding orb

Brober healer

[weak tundra]

Any macro I can shot Starsurge to nearest enemy while Im targeting/healing my teammates?

[tropic schooner]

/Targetnearestenemy should target

Could macro that with surge

And possibly have targetlasttarget at the end

[weak tundra]

like this?
/Targetnearestenemy
/cast Starsurge
/targetlasttarget

[tardy hare]

Should work, try it on a dummy

[hushed sparrow]

As healer i like focus to be used as second target for offensive spells

So i can switch fast between healing and dmg

[languid thorn]

hey, im trying to make a macro that makes me /target arena 1 if i press the button without modifiers. And if i click in shift and click macro i /focus arena1... for some reason i cant figure it out how to make the macro without focusing and targetting and the otherway around. Please help 🙂

[tropic schooner]

Why do you want to macro that, you can just keybind all of those actions

[safe heart]

Some kinda whacky starsurge quickscope macro

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

I didn't even know it was possible to be that low mmr in shuffle

[velvet quest]

It’s blitz

I think I was 2-0 and it still had me at 1400

[tardy hare]

First 13 games are like that

In blitz

Then mmr goes up

I won like 10-3 games and was 14-1500 ish before it shot up

[velvet quest]

my druid started at 1800, i guess mmr carries over from 2 seasons ago? idk

[stray sigil]

maybe druwude just the goat

[safe heart]

Ah okay

[tardy hare]

Mmr carries over ye

[tardy hare]

This is for fresh chars/maybe at start of season too

After those games it fluctuates like 100 mmr after a win or loss

[velvet quest]

but after not playing since 2 seasons ago it still gives me like +400 residual mmr? i thought it would kinda fully deflate back to starter mmr

[safe heart]

Mw is op for blitz yar?

[stray sigil]

prob still strong but nowhere near as op as it was

since u cant port with flags and shit

[safe heart]

I mean maybe you can't but I can

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

Nothing can stop me from teleporting with this mfn flag drake forever type beat

Speaking of, last night I played with a dk named lastnameever and everytime he popped pillar he shouted "I AINT NOTHIN TO PLAY WIT"

(He was 3rd on dps)

[stray sigil]

was prob healer diff u didnt dispell him gg

[safe heart]

I had 42 dispels

[tardy hare]

Nah, it doesnt

[tardy hare]

Atleast you cant fly across map with chi torpedo anymore lmao

[stray sigil]

now its just pres doing stupid shit

[random patrol]

full set tmogs are great

[safe heart]

I always use a full set basically

Full set, try to match weapon
Adjust cat and bear forms respectively

[wintry jackal]

I got someone to craft my leather for tier 3 and I have the gold

Just need time to unlock the vendor

[vestal citrus]

C

[wintry jackal]

do you have a mage named uzi

[safe heart]

F

[wintry jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/agenturleben-agencylife-hannover-kochstrasse-kstr-gif-27424229

[safe heart]

Why is ur D so hairy bruv

[wintry jackal]

it's super hairy

I don't think monks should be allowed to use druid t3

@stray sigil

they always use that with cursed vision of sargeras and then the green hell reaver polearm

it's too cool and the drip should belong to the druids

[stray sigil]

druid t3 blows

i use bonescythe

[wintry jackal]

that's cool too

dreadnaught is truly the best

that's my next when go to when i save up another 3 mil gold lmao

[tropic schooner]

I like mage t3

outside the helm

I like either priest t3 for helm for the bfa version from like 4th boss dazar alor raid

[random patrol]

proper druid fights naked

[stray sigil]

redemption is lowkey bis

its ugly as fuck

and cool at same time

[willow heron]

I'm playing EC in shuff and stomping rn lol

[random patrol]

ec 4 piece is fun if your trained

just all the 3 mill plus starfires

[wintry jackal]

boomie is disgusting rn ray

you should q

[viscid remnant]

@stray sigil

[safe heart]

bruh what is this hybrid mw shit

i dont get why theyre playing chiji

but not just going full fw

[random patrol]

Im just sticking to the week 10 plan

regarless of how nerfed it is by then

[stray sigil]

its puzzle

[viscid remnant]

Ay ay ay ay

Pi pu turipupup

[tiny oar]

@random patrol IS THIS U

[random patrol]

no

only my main uses my username and I dont use titles on my toon

plus its not flamingg

Im def flaming

its also not eating it's own kind

yw

[vestal citrus]

put some fkn pants on

[tiny oar]

noted

[tiny oar]

i think i won't

[random patrol]

pants are optional

proper druids pooh bear

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/narcos-pablo-escobar-gif-27070215

[rancid sphinx]

are you guys using wild charge (boomkin) + flap macro in arenas?

[livid wasp]

why can moonkins use cat form and cat form shit but feral cant use moonkin and flap

[tardy hare]

Not in arena, yes in BGs

But not in a macro cause i never bothered to make one

[safe heart]

You guys would be so proud

I vod reviewed my key last night

And LEARNED something

[tropic schooner]

that rdruids need permaban?

[safe heart]

Didn't need a vod for that, zechy already filled me in

[tropic schooner]

could have vod reviewed with zchey

[safe heart]

I noticed my mistakes and learn how to not make them next time which is a big move for me

[rancid sphinx]

how come u dont use it in arena

[tropic schooner]

not really useable in combat

in 99.89% of the cases

[safe heart]

I wish it was this easy to review arena vods

[tropic schooner]

it is

[safe heart]

Not for me

When I watch arena vods it's actually really hard for me to identify my mistakes without another set of eyes

Everything in arena vods feel so nitpicky to me

[tropic schooner]

do you not see them, or do you think about the mistakes of the other players?

[safe heart]

Generally I ignore the other players cuz I can't change them

[tropic schooner]

yea thats the mvoe

move

there ofc are sometimes extreme things you cant play around

and that does need to be recognized, but thats true in m+ too

[safe heart]

If I feel like healer should've saved me, I just figure "idk maybe I shouldn't have been here to get stunned"

[safe heart]

In m+ it's like "yeah I clearly was tunnel vision and didn't react to this mechanic"

[livid wasp]

do you track your healers cds and think that he should be saving me now

[safe heart]

Sortof yes, I usually assume healer will save me early but I have a decent internal clock for their cds

[tropic schooner]

but that could be similar in arena, not sure what you play but lets say we talk melee, I tunnel visioned so I didnt see enemy cds are about to be back, and I dont have trinket maybe I shouldnt have charged behind that pillar

[livid wasp]

wish I could do that

[safe heart]

Feral sp mw

[tropic schooner]

as?

feral?

[safe heart]

I play those 3 specs

[tropic schooner]

fair

but ofc gotta check other things

for those specs

[safe heart]

Maybe that's my problem

Maybe I write off too much stuff as nitpicky

[tropic schooner]

for things like shadow and mw

a huge thing is positioning

and moving enemy into position

for feral its more the opposite

[safe heart]

In m+ when I miss a mechanic im like "omg I can't believe I didn't heal them there"
But in arena being in the wrong place im like "eh I guess"

[tropic schooner]

dont get moved into a shit position

[safe heart]

But those 2 things are both micro mistakes

So I should treat equal

[tropic schooner]

id say both of those

are major mistakes

not micro

some of the biggest mistakes you can make

[safe heart]

Well

Easily correctable I guess

[tropic schooner]

really

I dont agree

I feel like both are quite hard to fix

your "didnt heal" part

is probably not cause you were like

fuck that guy

you were thinking more that there are higher prio things going on

and you thought they would survive without the heal

or you didnt see a big mechanic coming

and to fix that you have to increase your awareness of the situation, which is somewhat vague and that makes it hard

positioning is imo a similar thing where the problem is you didnt realize you were out of position because you didnt see whats going on/didnt recognize it

[safe heart]

Well in this key im referring to, I learned that an ability I had previous been completely ignoring was actually a phat tank hit

It's the aoe dot guy in priory

[tropic schooner]

sure that is fairly easy to fix

[safe heart]

So was trying to aoe heal and let tank die to tank hit

[safe heart]

Yah it's tough when positioning in pve is so situational
This is why I think I'm actually not that good at pvp , because I find it hard to identify my own mistakes

I'm confident I can get duelist on all 3 of my classes but I think that's why im an unchained glad and nothing more

[tropic schooner]

tbh dont have that much context how hard that is atm

[safe heart]

In 3s, probably not free
In shuffle im sure it's not that hard

It's still kinda early too

[tardy hare]

What would i need it for in arena

In rbgs it flies me across the map

In arena it just removes my ability to cast spells

[rancid sphinx]

but u can cancel it if u macro /cancelaura no?

or just cast moonfire or smth

then i t will cancel

[tropic schooner]

isnt flap on gcd?

[rancid sphinx]

nope it isnt

[tropic schooner]

sure so prolly not terrible

just still not useful

[wintry jackal]

Expect nothing but ret boomie arcane mage lobbies straight up

And if you aren’t cc’ing boomies incarn you will die it’s a win button

Arcane mages at 2k are mid at best but beyond that they are scary af

[safe heart]

I'm not scared of chickens I shrimply ignore them

[wintry jackal]

100-0 on 2 starsurges

Healers literally can’t do anything

[safe heart]

Why do they let boomie be good it doesn't make any sense

[tardy hare]

Yes but i will always be casting during wild charge in moonlin form usually so theres no point in having it for me

[livid wasp]

I heard you can build huge spaceships in no mans sky now

sounds kinda cool

[clear pulsar]

It's pretty incredible how that game evolved

For being a cheaper title with 0 monetization past buying the game

[livid wasp]

I played a lot of it when I waited for legion to come out

a lot has changed since then ive heard

[clear pulsar]

I'm done gearing

Love pve fr

[safe heart]

I just got to 700 last night

[stray sigil]

in pve?

[safe heart]

Yea

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

680 is plenty bro

I'm overkilling it rn with 700

Feels like I'm cheating

[stray sigil]

plenty for what piggy

+6s?

[safe heart]

Having gear is cheating ngl

[stray sigil]

do ur mythicals naked then

[safe heart]

I was trying to do 10s
I got declined alot tho

[stray sigil]

as a healer ?

[safe heart]

Yeah dude

Was bullshit

[stray sigil]

[random patrol]

good

[scarlet trout]

Hey guys I'm trying to get into pvp as balance druid. I honestly prefer battlegrounds over arenas, but I'd like to learn both. Are there any links you'd recommend for me to study, so that I could quickly improve and gain rating?

[safe heart]

Skillcapped

[scarlet trout]

Thanks, their paid guides are kinda expensive, but I'll check out yt channel

[safe heart]

Rudar has stuff also that's pretty well respected but it's also paid

Idk how much

[livid wasp]

fotm andy

[tropic schooner]

nothing wrong with that?

[viscid remnant]

Xaxaxaxa

[safe heart]

Anders

[random patrol]

in a comp game sometimes playing what's best > what you want

[safe heart]

Nah I'd never do that

If I don't like the class , I'm not playing it

[stray sigil]

real

u aint no pig

[random patrol]

almost time to conquest cap 8 toons again

good

[wintry jackal]

bite is clearly tuned really well

[tropic schooner]

tbh I disagree with that

but wanting to play the strongest specs I dont see an issue with

[wintry jackal]

i want to play feral

but it's frustrating playing something that feels meh compared to other specs blasting

[livid wasp]

just play

[stray sigil]

wait for tuning

some day

[random patrol]

wait until week 10 profit

[safe heart]

Call him a slur

[wintry jackal]

lol

That’s wild

[random patrol]

just meow

pray for nerfs and meow

nerfs maybe next Idfk

[wintry jackal]

Tbh ferals bleed damage isn’t bad

But it feels awful in solo rn

Unless you get viable teammates that can capitalize on the bleeds

Cus it feels like we have no finisher

[clear pulsar]

Come pve brother

[vestal citrus]

send him +7 to +9 and forget

he will come out changed man

[random patrol]

entropy ring on ah with one big stat looks tempting especially when the mythic one comes out

[random patrol]

this seems kind of bad ngl

boomy def needs a nerf though

15 percent plus nerf

[random patrol]

trying to cap second toon

taking way longer this rotation is cooked as f

[clear pulsar]

Yeah that is ~5% of its value

I feel like we said this like 8 times the last 2 days

[random patrol]

bleh

at least we got a 4 crate rotation now

soon hopefully

[random patrol]

2 down 6 to go

[surreal heron]

ew

[vestal citrus]

love it patron

[lime light]

EP spits on boomkin abusers

hopefully after a spit, they transfer into ferals

🙏🏿

[vestal citrus]

ep farms ferals

[livid wasp]

I wish I could still /spit on boomies

[lime light]

Ep can

so why Zechey cannot

sky is the limit my friend

[vestal citrus]

zechey has played boomy before thats why he has lost the ability

[livid wasp]

even snupy is taking a break for a few months

he isnt having any of that shit

[wintry jackal]

I tried

I swapped back to mage for solo shuffle

I think everyone is right time to pve

I am winning games at 2k on arcane mage with like 20 games of 2s as practice

[livid wasp]

just play another game if you dont want to pvp

pve is boring

[wintry jackal]

I don’t mind it I just don’t have time to do both really

My wife makes me play Fortnite with her too

[viscid remnant]

🥀

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/gacchi-poe-poe2-computer-pc-gif-16453754138777739800

[livid wasp]

I hate poe so much

its unbelievable

[viscid remnant]

lmao

[wintry jackal]

[astral rune]

I purposely go for the boomkins in pvp, it’s my way of convincing them to go feral once they see the paws doing work.

[tropic schooner]

[lime light]

small damgur players cant play poe

[tropic schooner]

I dont wanna play poe either + not interested in it

but its not like you are forced to

[livid wasp]

but forsen is unwatchable

I have nothing to do

[shy snow]

😿

[astral rune]

could always pvp in MoP classic 🤷‍♂️

[livid wasp]

why would anyone do that

[tropic schooner]

cause its fun

[astral rune]

feral was pgood in mop pvp

[shy snow]

why would anyone watch forsen, de gustibus I guess

[tropic schooner]

not particularly good in this mop tho

moonkin also mostly only 2s spec

in 3s its kinda mid

rdruid is godclass tho

(tbh tho while I would say rdruid is the best spec all healers besides disc are playable)

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

I think you have to be a turbo nerd to play disc but I haven't done the math on that lately

[wintry jackal]

Dude

Poe is everywhere rn

Can’t go to any discord without someone yapping about it lol

[viscid remnant]

Poe

[stray sigil]

poe blows

its real

[safe heart]

Last epoch better

[livid wasp]

absolute trash of a game

poe

probably last epoch too

looks literally like poe

all those action rpgs filmed from above shouldnt exist

[viscid remnant]

whats ur problem

[livid wasp]

poe is

[clear pulsar]

First zechey came for the resto druids, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a resto druid.

Then zechey came for the ret palas, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a ret pala.

Then zechey came for the hunters, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a hunter.

Then zechey came for poe—and there was no one left to speak for poe.

[livid wasp]

what are you a poet

[viscid remnant]

chatgpt

[livid wasp]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came

[clear pulsar]

Someone who plays poe? No shot, hate poe

[livid wasp]

haha!

[vestal citrus]

poe 1 or 2 bro

just dont play poe 2 thats the easy fix

[viscid remnant]

Tuff

I studied that poem in english class but iforgor

Its been a few years

[random patrol]

got a job working a haunted house woooooooooooooo

just a part time gig for fun

mostly cause I have way to much time on my hands

[wintry jackal]

why is ret a good kill target

has it always been?

[clear pulsar]

I think of it as good kill target cuz it can make other people harder to kill by losing their own cds

The externals basically

[stray sigil]

think about it this way

u go ret

hes -1 cd

cuz cant sac himself

[velvet quest]

it feels like ret has to be trained hard for it to feel worth the -1 cd

like if u just do a go on ret once a minute ull never get through anything

[stray sigil]

wat does trained hard even mean

[velvet quest]

and they just soak up dmg by being passively super tanky

[stray sigil]

nothing is tanky rn u dirty piglet

[velvet quest]

ww is tanky

[stray sigil]

[clear pulsar]

True

WW only spec I've beat arcane mage with

[velvet quest]

i mean trained hard as in blasting them all game kinda? like if ur playing for setups it feels like u need to get cds outside of stun goes to stay ahead of their defensives sometimes

ret also has their own orc racial right

[stray sigil]

[velvet quest]

not that it matters much cause they can press their defensives while stunned

[stray sigil]

not sure they play that

[velvet quest]

but also when rets feel like theyre low on buttons they toggle on their ranged playstyle it feels like

[stray sigil]

they play like the kwok

and just hug pillar

[wintry jackal]

@surreal heron

ty

[tiny oar]

!!!!!

very good

[wintry jackal]

ty lake! :3

[livid wasp]

I hate poe so much

[viscid remnant]

[shy snow]

https://tenor.com/view/path-of-exile-forsen-pajlada-tweetney-derpatronic-gif-22102731

[tropic schooner]

for zechey no one has to mention it

[viscid remnant]

Xaxaxa

[safe heart]

is poe2 druid good

essence drain lich on maxroll looks fun too

[viscid remnant]

I was going to log that

But i had to go outside

Forced

Fucked up day

[tropic schooner]

should ping @livid wasp he knows

[safe heart]

i gotta work on 1800 mog on feral today

wish me luck

then i gotta do mw

with the stupid fucking hybrid build i guess

[astral rune]

RIP, at least it was good back then. Not surprised about resto being that good though.

[tropic schooner]

yea its last patch so balance will be different to what ppl remember

like resto druid, mage, ele, war in 3s kinda "god classes"

[astral rune]

Either way Zechey wouldn’t play it

[tropic schooner]

(tbh rogue at top lvl kinda godclass too)

[tropic schooner]

big pumper

[viscid remnant]

Gigantic

[safe heart]

2k mmr too lol

its actually kinda freeing to not believe im good at this anymore

so when i lose it kinda feels like that was the point anyway

we ascend bruvs

i will say, ill never understand the idea of rage whispering someone and then hurrying to block me before i can respond lol

like i assume if ur mad enough to whisper about it youd atleast wanna chat about it

[livid wasp]

gotta always log on another char to respond to their shit and then log back and ignore

[safe heart]

this is gunna be a long grind to 1800

im dreading learning the new hybrid mw shit

[wintry jackal]

Feral might be the worst solo spec rn idk

My win loss is looking like that too

I almost punched my monitor last night and I never rage

Losing a match when I survive til 2nd incarn and it just does nothing is so tilting

And in the ret boomie lobby ret just faces boomie incarn and dies

Then faces me and can erase me despite me playing better around the boomie

I’ll take up the mantle of most tilted for zechey

I actually need a break for my mental health

[safe heart]

yea i mean this feels pretty horrible currently

[viscid remnant]

Clanker

[safe heart]

i mean im probably completely trolling but idk, feel like i have no pressure

[wintry jackal]

There’s no pressure dude

[wintry jackal]

🥀

[safe heart]

although

i am using pve 4pc

and all greens

[wintry jackal]

That def doesn’t help

[safe heart]

but it doesnt hurt

right

[wintry jackal]

Your damage will improve with gear but for some reason it doesn’t feel like it does anything on its own

Even in deep dampening

[safe heart]

ill probably get 1800 before i get full purple so its whatever

ill get lobby carries probably

[velvet quest]

Enji you’re probably missing like 20% dmg

[tiny oar]

[safe heart]

you cant prove that

[random patrol]

just line the arcane mage

[stray sigil]

idk why u apes are even qin rn

no point

game is terrible

[safe heart]

cuz i wanna get the 1800 mog rq

i aint queing shuffle for fun lmao

[random patrol]

if you q before conquest uncaps you did it to yourself

[livid wasp]

queue blitz

[stray sigil]

do 2s

same urself

from ret/arcane lobbies

[random patrol]

or boomy arcane or arcane mm or arcane arcane

[wintry jackal]

Yeah was silly to q

I just genuinely enjoyed playing the game the last 2 szns

Haven’t experienced it so unfun until now

Like I know I am making mistakes still but losing not because of those but because of poor balancing is so lame

[stray sigil]

just wait for tuning

one day

[livid wasp]

who cares this season will last until may or something

[velvet quest]

The game feels fine to me I’m not a 2400 3s player so I never fight arcane mages

[proud tangle]

Game is always fun and fine when you q to improve and not to win

[stray sigil]

u also play with a boomy

u cant be trusted with opinions on gamestate rn

[velvet quest]

Ur a pve main u can’t be trusted either

[wintry jackal]

Normally I agree but it really doesn’t feel like that rn

Yes I can minimize my mistakes but to improve and then still not win even though you made less mistakes than the enemy feels mega bad

[wintry jackal]

This is facts

Boomie is borderline cheating atm lol

[safe heart]

only 200 cr to go

can probably get 1 more shuffle in before i gotta bolt

if i 6-0 i wonder if i can get 200 points in 1 lobby

[velvet quest]

Since you’re 1600 you prob can only get like 90 something points right

[proud tangle]

Completely understandable, altho the elitist in me’s knee jerk reaction response is this must be your first competitive video game then cuz that happens all the time

[stray sigil]

[safe heart]

this is dogshit

also no way im going 6-0 at 1600

[stray sigil]

do it

no bol

[safe heart]

i just 5-1 a boomie

so maybe there is hope

[stray sigil]

[tropic schooner]

not even only video game

but also gotta realize if you consistantly make fewer and less impactful mistakes compared to the opponents and still dont gain rating, you are wrong about making fewer mistakes (unless ofc you are at extreme, near r1 rating)

[stray sigil]

not really real lol

[tropic schooner]

absolutely real

[stray sigil]

this isnt a 1v1 game at all

doesnt work like that

[tropic schooner]

yes it does

[stray sigil]

in fairytale land maybe

but in real life no

[tropic schooner]

I said consistently

however you are right

I should have specified shuffle

(or blitz)

for premade 3s/2s/rbg you could be held back by your team that is true

[stray sigil]

what makes u think u cant be held back in blitz or shuffle lol

[tropic schooner]

because your teammates and enemy team is random

[stray sigil]

and that proves your point... how

[tropic schooner]

that you are not intentionally targeted to get worse people?

[stray sigil]

who said intentionally targeted lol

[tropic schooner]

your team and enemy team is equally good

[stray sigil]

absolutely not real either lol

[tropic schooner]

so the only person making consistent difference are you

[tropic schooner]

on average? yes

how isnt it

[stray sigil]

if everyone plays the exact same spec

sure

[tropic schooner]

no

doesnt matter

at all

[stray sigil]

lmfao how does it not

[proud tangle]

When it gets to that point it’s definitely a go next for any solo q game, the entire pipeline is minimize mistakes as much as humanely possible, and then maintain your consistency of performance as much as humanely possible, and you SHOULD climb over many games

[stray sigil]

u see it every day

random bm hunter

that would be 1500 on any spec

is 2400 +

how is he

equally as good as u if u play

say enh at 2.4

u make no sense lol

ur living in fairytail

[tropic schooner]

okay if that is your angle and you dont consider picking the right spec as a mistake that is somewhat fair

but sure

compared to other people of the same spec

[safe heart]

this is how u defeat boomer

[stray sigil]

but u dont play vs the same spec every lobby... ?

[tropic schooner]

and not comparing to random other people

that still doesnt matter

but yes if you mean that a better spec will have higher rating compared to worse specs - or an easier to pick up spec at the low to mid ratings id agree

did not talk about that in the original thing thats true

[tropic schooner]

depends what your goals are

but did find it funny that some of the highest rated HS battlegrounds players lose rating by going third out of 8 players

[proud tangle]

Well the goal should always be to refine and hone, the arbitrary leaderboard placement number will always coincide with it and if you fixate on it you’ll just stagnate forever

[tropic schooner]

oh that what youve been saying, I agree with that as a general statement yea

[safe heart]

eh well this is the best i could do
ripski bruv

[proud tangle]

this is absolutely correct and its hilarious how this isnt a consensus

[tropic schooner]

yea I honestly cant comprehend it

[proud tangle]

every match in any bracket in any game is always the fkn blame game

[safe heart]

because you have a non zero chance every round of some other person causing you to lose

[tropic schooner]

okay?

that happens more in the enemy team tho

more likely that a person who isnt you loses the game

[clear pulsar]

I have come around on critful

That being said

I am now melding every incap

[tropic schooner]

(tbh I do understand that its hard thing to agree)

/understand

that you are the reason

always easier to think someone else is at fault

[clear pulsar]

Because ofc it is a team game

And everybody did make mistakes

[tropic schooner]

yea

[clear pulsar]

So it's really easy to overstate others'

[tropic schooner]

and you are likely focusing more on your teammates mistakes

and say that guy fucked this up

so my mistake didnt matter

like my pala died without bubbling

[clear pulsar]

Because if they hadnt made mistakes you had a better chance of winning. It's true. But then it's just cope to take your ass out of the picture

Yeah

[tropic schooner]

but maybe I also didnt use ironbark or what ever

[clear pulsar]

Ultimately it's just a perspective thing and the perspective that will help you win the most is to look at the things you did and you can control. Nothing else is interesting.

[safe heart]

honestly my shuffle experience is kinda similar to m+
i feel like i do better once i get past like 2k

kinda like how 4s are impossible sometimes cuz ppl just dont do stuff

[tropic schooner]

sure that may absolutely be possible

but in that case maybe your mistake is expecting the other players to do more than they are capable of

thats still your mistake

[clear pulsar]

It's like that in real sports too

It can depend on your skill set

[proud tangle]

i could write a bible on an analysis of misconceptions and perceived corrections for talent training because im a nerd for this shit, but really the conclusion i made in my 30+ games of climbing as a chosen hobby is most people are simply not built for competitive environments that require accountability for vertical progression

[random patrol]

Oribos is the best city in the game

[tropic schooner]

(ofc wild guess, no clue if that is actually happening)

[clear pulsar]

But that doesnt idk erase the fact that your personal impact is the most important for your own success

[safe heart]

im not saying im playing incredibly, but i see what fuji's saying

[tropic schooner]

and there are also "invisible" skills, like chosing the "wrong" class/role/spec what ever is part of the skill

[proud tangle]

its a reasonable perspective

[tropic schooner]

if you are playing guardian druid you can be whaaz you likely wont break 2.4k

[clear pulsar]

Feral is the wrong spec get real yall

[safe heart]

the only wrong spec is a spec i dont like

[clear pulsar]

Come on over and pve

[proud tangle]

the mountain of micro-factors that equate to a result or uphill/downhill climb

[safe heart]

im already sold, basically washed my hands of pvp at this point

[clear pulsar]

I had to pick the right spec to hit my last 13

[proud tangle]

all this type of shit is out of sight out of mind for most

[clear pulsar]

I got 3k achieve, resil 12s and resil 13s all in one priory

[safe heart]

im abusing the last remaining shreds of my pvp skills just to get 1800 mogs

[tropic schooner]

and in actual team games human interaction is also part of the skill

[clear pulsar]

I kept getting the most unbelievably stupid tanks trying it as healer

[safe heart]

what does resil 12 mean

[clear pulsar]

And so I picked the right spec/role and stopped making that mistake

[tropic schooner]

did you get a tank melding when your WW popped cds?

in that case I have an idea who tanked

[safe heart]

yeah this isnt an option for me
if i cant do it as one of the specs im already playing then its gg

[clear pulsar]

Resilient keystones. When you time every dungeon on a +12, it makes your keystones at level 12 not lower level if you brick it.

[safe heart]

oh thats awesome

[clear pulsar]

I do already play a good amount of bear tbf. It's just a psychological trick to flip specs sometimes

[safe heart]

scroll wheel iron fur

[clear pulsar]

I pug as tank -> get a couple shit healers in a row -> swap to healer cuz surely it'll be better -> get a couple shit tanks -> repeat

[tropic schooner]

continuus tilt

[clear pulsar]

Lmao

Never tilt no

[proud tangle]

id rather just master the 1 thing and make up for the shitters dawg

[clear pulsar]

You are welcome to doing that

Bless up

My 15$ tho

[proud tangle]

valid

i will spend my $15 rping as a mute bodyguard

[tropic schooner]

vased

based

[clear pulsar]

Bear is kinda fun rn

I catweave out the wazoooo

[stray sigil]

choosing a spec is a skill

i cant

[proud tangle]

have you ever met hunter mains

90% of them refuse to play a diff spec even if its the only not bad one

same goes for locks and sometimes mages

[tropic schooner]

goes for literally every class

think warlocks, mages and hunters its less

compared to like druids, priests, palas

[clear pulsar]

Did you guys see the story of a carbon credit brokering company with a 700% margin that sponsored Robert Downey Jr, Leo DiCaprio, Drake, and went bankrupt cuz the ceo was condemned for defrauding investors? They paid 48M dollars to Kawhi Leonard to pay for the Clippers.

[stray sigil]

nice chat gpt

dumb pig

[clear pulsar]

It was rly fun to read about a carbon credit company going bankrupt. I was looking up wtf carbon credits really were when david started spouting that taylor swift jet shit

And it turns out nobody really knows, these companies arent audited very well

[tropic schooner]

I did see the story about someones partner using chat gpt for work and chat gpt halucinated calculations and some other company who wanted to use those results asked where the fuck those numbers came from

[clear pulsar]

And this one was just an outsourcing company that profited 6-7x the value of the service they were selling

[tropic schooner]

read a book where carbon credits were relevant

interesting concept

[viscid remnant]

This is very vexxing

[karmic flame]

Hey all how is kitty doing in pvp? I was thinking of coming back and playing RBG's and poking around in some other stuff

[livid wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831

[grand mesa]

@clear pulsar how’s your 11.2 been so far

We haven’t done anything together except for hold a pug hunter hostage and time a key with him against his will

[clear pulsar]

Just vibing and flaming niko

I was in priory prison for a full week

Where it was the last 12 I needed, also the last 13 I needed, and 5 score away from 3k

And I just couldnt for the life of me do it

[safe heart]

Make circle a choice node with draught

[wintry jackal]

in ref to the earlier convo i am always down for self accountability and enjoy that aspect of the game

but i am saying the game itself isn't fun rn

for me

as feral

[safe heart]

I am way too good at this to bother watching my gameplay back

[clear pulsar]

Come pve

All dreamgrove dream team we can make it happen

Puzzle carries

[viscid remnant]

Addon guy wins again

1v9

[random patrol]

lets do mythic raid

yeah

[grand mesa]

Oof

Are u tanking or

And why don’t u ask me u dingus

Happy to help

I’m starting to dabble in ele some (I’m terrible)

But yes pve is good im living my best life I havent even bought honor gear yet and i havent been arcane barraged for 17m my mental is pristine

[clear pulsar]

You havent been online in 2 weeks???

[stray sigil]

hes hiding invisible perma the freak

[safe heart]

i do that too

[random patrol]

invisible, naked same thing really

[vestal citrus]

excuse me sir

i carry

[clear pulsar]

You're washed, be real

Stay small

[vestal citrus]

tbh